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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: with IR Radio. Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Guests,

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Speaker 1: Who's back, bends back? What's up everybody? Yeah? All right,

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Speaker 1: Before we go into all the details of his wedding

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Speaker 1: and his honeymoon, we want to give the Batch Brack

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Speaker 1: Rule of the week so that we don't forget because

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Speaker 1: I mean, wow, we have like so much like juicy

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Speaker 1: stuff about it from our way that like you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't we don't want to cut up in it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: batch bragget Rule of the week. Um for week eight,

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Speaker 1: which is December seven, is plus ten when a contestant

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Speaker 1: says that they want to slash can see themselves starting

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Speaker 1: to have a family, slash having kids with Michelle. All right,

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Speaker 1: you're you're not going to get I mean, there's only

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Speaker 1: think that everybody gets pretty left at that point, right,

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Speaker 1: everybody wins? Yeah? Yeah, okay, So Ben's back and Ben

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Speaker 1: Easan and I of course talked about your beautiful wedding

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Speaker 1: and how perfect this ceremony was and how beautiful your

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Speaker 1: Now everything was just set up so nicely and like

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Speaker 1: there's just so much love and warmth in the air. Uh,

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Speaker 1: give it to us from your perspective, like was the day?

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Speaker 1: The day turned out exactly the way that you wanted

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Speaker 1: it to. Well, a lot of that is going to

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Speaker 1: be dependent on you, um, and I'll explain why. I'll

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Speaker 1: explain why. So when Jessica and I planned this wedding,

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Speaker 1: the hope of this wedding was that we knew we

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Speaker 1: would have the most fun no matter what, right, we

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Speaker 1: would have a great time. It was gonna be our

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Speaker 1: special day, like we're marrying each other. We were ready

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Speaker 1: for this moment. But everything that we decided on details

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Speaker 1: depending on We would have have even more fun if

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Speaker 1: everybody else had fun, Like we wanted it to feel

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Speaker 1: like a celebration and so, and before I go into

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Speaker 1: the details of that day and kind of what that

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Speaker 1: felt like to us, do you mind answering the question

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Speaker 1: is on it like I want you to do honestly,

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Speaker 1: do you did you have a good time at this wedding? Oh?

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Speaker 1: My god, we had a blast. It was great. It

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Speaker 1: truly was a big celebration feel we had so much fun,

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine it being better. Well that makes me

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Speaker 1: happy because then, yes, it was a success. And we

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Speaker 1: mean I don't know if anybody would tell us they

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Speaker 1: didn't have a good time when it's your own wedding. Um,

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Speaker 1: But so far the responses have been really positive. And

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Speaker 1: one of the ways we did this was, you know,

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Speaker 1: we didn't do a sit down dinner. We did um

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Speaker 1: food stands. Uh, not only because it's a lot more

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Speaker 1: to stop the party as soon as the seramony was over.

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Speaker 1: We wanted the party to start, and we did that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was no lull no like you no, no, you

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Speaker 1: a couple of things that happened that nobody knows yet. Um,

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Speaker 1: we had an incredible opportunity. Jessica's favorite song with her

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Speaker 1: father is Cinderella. UM. And that is a song that

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Speaker 1: so many people uh danced to at their wedding. Uh.

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Speaker 1: the original artist, um, Michael W. Smith. He recorded a

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Speaker 1: So that was the original writer, Michael de w Smith. Um.

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Speaker 1: I thought it turned out awesome. My mom and I

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Speaker 1: dance to Ben rector Um extraordinary magic um. And I

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Speaker 1: really it wasn't candlelight, but it felt like candle light.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like looking over people trying to see your face.

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Speaker 1: I got little glimpses, and of course like seeing your

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Speaker 1: And then I loved the rehearsal dinner with all the speeches,

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Speaker 1: They had such great stories and they're just there's there

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Speaker 1: were everything you'd imagine Ben Higgins Ben Higgins wedding uh

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Speaker 1: Ben's not perfect. Tries really hard. Yeah, I love no,

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Speaker 1: I said. I said the line was Ben's not perfect,

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Speaker 1: That's all I need. He just he just dries well. Actley.

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Speaker 1: You know, you were the only person from the Bachelor

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Speaker 1: lot of ups and downs, you know, through relationship, through life,

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Speaker 1: through struggles, through you know, wondering where this goes. So

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Speaker 1: But yeah, So the wedding itself was wonderful at every

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Speaker 1: We got to you know, obviously have the pursl which

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Speaker 1: Jordan Con. You had Jordan Con, I know, and they're

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Speaker 1: both is incredible, Yes, they're They're amazing. They had five

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Speaker 1: the details of the ceremony were this. We had three officiants,

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Speaker 1: then we went down to the kitchen because here's here's

427
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: the dream mash. So once everything was done, um, we

428
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: went downstairs. Uh. And the catering company had filled up

429
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 1: the refrigerator in the in the house with all of

430
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: the leftover pizza and cheeseburgers, not knowing, and so Jessica

431
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: and I loaded up. We we microwaved everything available. We

432
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: opened up another bottle of line, had a drink, um,

433
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: and just sat in this massive house with just the

434
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: two of us, and we're like we're married, and like

435
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: we're a couple, and now we're connected in a way

436
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 1: we haven't ever been. And it was just really like

437
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: it was a really fun evening and we stayed up

438
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: probably till one thirty talking and eating and drinking and laughing. Um,

439
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was. It was a special night. I

440
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: would say, I'm shocked that the couples go to bed.

441
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: I want to look back on our wedding night and

442
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: at least like have as a marker uh far relationship.

443
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: But also I'd recommend doing something fun too, like without

444
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, if you can get away from the cross

445
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: for a bit, like just like us, eating at that

446
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: kitchen table together afterwards will be something we remember forever,

447
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: like forever and ever. Okay, So then you left for

448
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: your honeymoon to Samet Barts. How you see, Sat Bart's

449
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: not Sat Barts, it's St bartholomy is the island. Um

450
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: it's best known as St. Barts. But I'm sure people

451
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: out there like St Bartholomy So um. We ended up

452
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: going back to her parents house the next day, so

453
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: we helped load up the cars. Her family had stayed

454
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: up near the venue that night, and then we went

455
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: back to her house and my parents and her extended

456
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: family because she has an Italian family that's massive. We

457
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: all had like a late brunch at her parents house

458
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: and then just watch football. I was exhausted and we

459
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: you know, we got a our COVID test done that

460
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: day for our flight the next day, and then we

461
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 1: went to bed early and we rested because we had

462
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: an early flight. We left it like six o'clock in

463
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: the morning at a Nashville to go to St. Bart's,

464
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: uh and start a honeymoon, which Ashley, I'm telling you. St.

465
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: Bart's is unlike any island in the Caribbean. So you know,

466
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: most of the time you go to a Caribbean island

467
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: and some of the stuff I love most about a

468
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: Cribbean island is you go and you get a cheeseburger

469
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: and a fish sandwich and you sit on the beach. Well. St.

470
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: Barts is set up to be like this very fancy

471
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: place with like Michelin star restaurants, five star resorts, huge houses.

472
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: That's why you always hear all these celebrities going to St. Bart's.

473
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so different. But my favorite part of

474
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: the honeymoon outside of the obvious um was was there

475
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: like supposed to be a witk there? Nice um was.

476
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: We stayed at a resort called La Bar Thelamy and

477
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: it was just beautiful, a little resort only like fifty rooms.

478
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: Uh we a little private pool. You walk right of

479
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: our room onto the beach, and the sea turtles were

480
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: in the bay that our resort was on. And so

481
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: every day I got the snorkel with sea turtles. That's

482
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: so cool. It was so magical, Jessica. I went out

483
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: snorkeling one day. We saw five sea turtles and I

484
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: promise you one of them looked at us and waved.

485
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: I promise you that. So finding Nemo. What was up

486
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: with that burger with like the most massive amount of

487
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: cheese I've ever seen? Yeah, so one of the things

488
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: we'll find out in St. Bart's is there's nothing. Nothing

489
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: comes cheap. And so this burger was like thirty bucks.

490
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's our honeymoon, So what are you gonna do? Yeah,

491
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: you didn't think about it, Yeah, but we um this

492
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: was at the resort. Labar told me had this burger

493
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: and it was it's like known for this like foamy beer, cheese,

494
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: jalapeno cheese, just like soaking over the burger. And I'm

495
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 1: telling you it was good and like especially on your

496
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: honeymoon after you've I guess I didn't watch my way

497
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: or you know, work out as much because my knee.

498
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: But like you know, Jessica was very very strict on

499
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: her diet and her exercise plan, and she hadn't drank

500
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: for two months before the wedding, so like her devouring

501
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: a cheeseburger was like heaven from my eyes. I want

502
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: to see. Um. But we we just toured the island.

503
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: We hiked a lot. Uh. We we took We went

504
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: out to incredible dinners every night. We you guys, hung

505
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: out at the same same bar every night. Every night

506
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: we went back to La Barthelmy and had an espresso martini. Um.

507
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: One the night we went to Italian restaurant. Here's a

508
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: good story. And Jessica, who is so tiny and can't

509
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: handle much alcohol, we had martiniz and we shared a

510
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: bottle of wine and she went back and we gotta

511
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: espresso martini and I have a video on my front.

512
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: She she didn't she didn't feel well. Let's say that. Yeah, um,

513
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: but she got but it was it was like you know,

514
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: I've never seen her do that before in my life. Um,

515
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: but there was something about the honeymoon whereas like we

516
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: just wanted to like have no worries, like we just

517
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: and like it was all in good fun and yeah

518
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: she she felt awful. Um, but I have these videos

519
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: on my phone and we have this like we have

520
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: these memories. Now. I don't know, as there's something there's

521
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: something really cool about being married and now having marriage memories.

522
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: Does it feel different? Saying does it feel different? It

523
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: feels different? Um, it does? We you know, we spend

524
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: a ton of time together in Denver, Uh, probably every

525
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: day of our lives if I'm not traveling, and there's

526
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: something about now that feels different. And this is how

527
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: I explained it to somebody before. When we're engaged, there's

528
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: something in my mind that was always saying like I'm

529
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: planning this or she's playing this because we're engaged, and

530
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 1: now ever anything we do that's big, we're doing it

531
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: together as a married couple. Like I'm not thinking five

532
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: years down the road now. I guess I had a

533
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: little bit of this when we're engaged, but now when

534
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: I think five years down the road, I know she's

535
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: gonna be there, like I know, she's gonna be my

536
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 1: side like we were. We were, we were in it,

537
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: and so we're making these decisions together, we're going through

538
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: life together, we're living together and for all looking together.

539
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: And you know, when I go on vacation now, I

540
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: want her there because I want my friend there. I

541
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: want my lover there like I want her with me,

542
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: And so it does feel different, um, and and you

543
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, and I think it always will. Speaking about

544
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: living together, were you still you were not living in

545
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: that house that you're recording from. Technically were off and

546
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: on at the end of it. So I had I've

547
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: had renters come into my other house and so I

548
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: had to pick up and go, but I wasn't home.

549
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: So for the last you know, really after my surgery,

550
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: we had my parents um out here, and then uh,

551
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: Jessica was gone. She was in Nashville pretty much preparing

552
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: for this wedding. So not really um, but kind of

553
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: if we're like, hey, we'd never like I never was

554
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: like living at this house. I got most of my

555
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: stuff here, all of my stuff here, I guess, um

556
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: because the Renterests had moved in. So yeah, pretty much,

557
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't say it wasn't like a it

558
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: was a slow transition, but it was it was necessary.

559
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what else we could have done, um

560
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: as we were like leaving for the last three weeks,

561
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: just you know, with two mortgages. So yeah, we had to. Okay,

562
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: my last question, do you have any like post wedding,

563
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: post honeymoon depression about it all being over? Yeah? I do, Um,

564
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: I do. I it would be great if we could

565
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: have that all the time. And I want people that

566
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: came there to who our wedding to know just how

567
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: much it meant to us. And we talked about it

568
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: still every night, and it's weird that it's over because

569
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: there's so much prep and planning going on. Yeah, I

570
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: would say I didn't think I would. I was really

571
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: thinking that, like I wanted to Jessica to have the

572
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: most beautiful wedding of her life, but I ended up

573
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 1: having some of the most fun of my life. And

574
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm sad that that night is over. Yeah,

575
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: well yeah I am when I say that, Like you

576
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: live through memories, like you really do. Like sometimes I

577
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: can just like almost feel like I'm there again, and

578
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: you'll look at pictures and videos and all that. Obviously

579
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: it's not the same, but it's not the same. It's

580
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: one of the most vivid memories you'll ever have. I

581
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: would I would, I would have to say it is

582
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: at this point it always will be. But then even

583
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: this ash um and we can close up here because

584
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: we talked a lot about me and Jesse and I. Um,

585
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, we just decorated our Christmas tree when Christmas.

586
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk about that. Yeah, for the

587
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: for our first one ever. We never did it when

588
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: we were dating, um, because we weren't in the same place.

589
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: So we went down. We got to permit. State of

590
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: Colorado gives these permits out to go into like over

591
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: uh you know, tree populated areas and cut down a

592
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: tree because it helps deforestation and it helps wildfires. So

593
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: we did that. We've got really over zealous. We picked

594
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: a massive tree that I'm looking at right now, um

595
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: on not on purpose, just because it was beautiful. And

596
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: then we've decorated the last two nights and I put

597
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: Christmas lights out around our house. Um. I've never done

598
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: that in my life, and so you know, I'm feeling

599
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: very married. Well, that's like such a nice, cool time

600
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: to get married, such a cozy time of year. It is,

601
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: it is, But there is one story that I'd like

602
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: to share that nobody knows yet. I'm currently struggling with it.

603
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: Um And yeah, and if any um people listening have

604
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: ever done this and I have any advice for me,

605
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: please write us, um, it would mean a lot. On

606
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: our honeymoon, we were snorkeling one day and I got

607
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: caught in a shallow area and stepped on a sea urchin.

608
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: And it is in my foot still. I wish I

609
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: could show you it. Um. There's like probably ten different

610
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: spikes in my big toe and in my foot and

611
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: it's getting really swollen. And I can't tell if they're

612
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: like pushing out and like trying to leave my body

613
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: or if they're just getting like infected. But they hurt

614
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: like the dickens, and um, I need advice on how

615
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: to get them out. They don't even look like splinters

616
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: or anything like. They look like you have a little

617
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: bit maybe a little bruising. Yeah, it's like bruising, and

618
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: but you can see dots where like you can see

619
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 1: where where they're at. But it's like so sworn around there,

620
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: so that didn't ruin our trip, but it definitely didn't

621
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: help the hiking, which we really wanted to do, and

622
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: like all of that stuff, we fought through it. Um.

623
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, if anybody has any advice on what you

624
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: can do, that would be really helpful. I mean, should

625
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: you get the doctor, I don't know, Well that could

626
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: be good at it would be nice. Maybe that's the

627
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: advice we'll get. We'll go to the doctor. Well. Hey, Um,

628
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: pictures will be posted to the wedding. Um, they're not

629
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: done yet, obviously, they're they're getting edited all that stuff.

630
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: I'll start posting on social media, so for anybody watching,

631
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: we'll share some with the almost famous family. Uh, it's

632
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: been super fun leading up to this wedding. We're now married.

633
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: Jessica and I are very happy and we're very excited

634
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: to be back. I've missed the podcast. I don't like

635
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: getting on Instagram and seeing new faces. I mean, it's

636
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: been a lot of new faces. I've been gone a

637
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: lot and so um, we're back better than ever. Um.

638
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Speaker 1: Ready to break down this week's episode of the Bachelorette.

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Speaker 1: Right after take a break, We're here with episodes seven

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00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: of Michelle's season of the Bachelorette. We are down to hometowns,

641
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: which we say every year, but a little interesting nugget,

642
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: just for those who haven't been listening, When you get

643
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: to hometowns, you're actually halfway through the recording of the season,

644
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: and so the final four actually get a lot of

645
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: time a month a month with the lead, where before

646
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: you know you're filtering through. So for us, we're like

647
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: this episode seven, it feels like it's moving so fast.

648
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: Well now it slows down when you're within it, and

649
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: so you see relationships really start to get stronger after hometowns.

650
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: There's a reason why you're spending a few days a

651
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: week with them. You're going to a bunch of dates

652
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: with all these people. But we're down the hometowns, and

653
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: Michelle kicks it off with actually take it away, brand

654
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: it Brandon's hometown. Um, he wants to bring Portland to Michelle.

655
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: He's just lived there his whole life, twenty seven years,

656
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: and she he takes her to a skateboard rink, wants

657
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: to get her out of her comfort zone. Um, he

658
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: loves skateboarding. It's there's like nothing to say about it.

659
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: It's cute, it's fun, but the important part is that

660
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: she gets to meet his family later on that night,

661
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: and she meets his brother, who ends up delaying his

662
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: his like deployment with the Navy, just to meet Michelle,

663
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: and then his mom and his dad. And keep in

664
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: mind that Michelle did meet that that Brandon did get

665
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: to meet Michelle's parents last week, and she said she

666
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: he passed that test with flying color, so she was

667
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: kind of nervous about doing the same with his family.

668
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: There wasn't like a ton of depth to the conversations.

669
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: I'd say that, Um, Michelle loved the fact that she's

670
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: gonna take on his dad in basketball. It was fun

671
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: to be able to talk about something lighthearted like that.

672
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: And then Brandon said to his mom that Michelle is

673
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: one of the strongest women he's ever met. Um. So

674
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: like anything that, anything that stood out to you here,

675
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: I mean I think we stood out to me was

676
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: and maybe it was just me, um, and you can

677
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: disagree with me. I saw a new side of Brandon

678
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: during this day, Like he felt a lot more relaxed,

679
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: a lot less let's say, polished, like he was he

680
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: was maybe just even how he was articulating himself, like

681
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: he was just joking around he wasn't, you know, fumbling

682
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: for words. He was just kind of having a good

683
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: time with her. And I did see that change. Outside

684
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: of that and his comfortability with her. Um No, I

685
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: don't think there was anything mind boggling. I don't think

686
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: there's anything that stood out. I do think if I

687
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: was to rank her connection with the parents, this would

688
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: be probably the second best connection with the parents out

689
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: of any of them. Um I felt like it wasn't bad,

690
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't good, But I do feel like the parents

691
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: during this this segment or this episode of this year,

692
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: we're just a lot more hesitant than most years. Like

693
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: you didn't have your bachelor's super fan like parents that

694
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I'm so nervous. Like all

695
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: the parents felt comfortable, I mean, just to be themselves

696
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: and they weren't pushing anything too hard, and they were

697
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: mostly worried about their sons. They were all kind of

698
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: even killed. They all kind of blend in together. I'm

699
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, because nobody really made a big stink.

700
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: There is no one when you're where you were like,

701
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: oh man, I don't want that to be my mother

702
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: in law or father in law or anything like that

703
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: nobody overly intimidating. The biggest standout comment or conversation was

704
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: probably Nate's dad, stepdad, saying that he was probably not

705
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: ready for an engagement, but we'll get that, We'll get

706
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: down there. There's a lot there in that meeting between

707
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: the two of them to talk about. Most most things

708
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: to say about this episode, I think fall into that

709
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: last fourth definitely. Yeah. So up next we had Rodney's

710
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: hometown date. Uh. Rodney is somebody that it feels like

711
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people in America fall in love with.

712
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: It's obvious why he's He's been very nice, very charming,

713
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: very sweet. He's felt like the underdog all season, even

714
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: though none of us here believed he was. Ashley, though,

715
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: when it comes to his hometown date, as we let

716
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: her find out, it just didn't hit And why do

717
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: you believe that? I think it was just that romantic

718
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: connection not necessarily being there. Fully, she definitely liked him

719
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: as a best friend, definitely like laughing with him. She

720
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: brought that up on multiple occasions, But I just feel

721
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: like the romance wasn't necessarily there for her. And it

722
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: was really funny because this is one of those time

723
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: rare times where like I actually think that that last

724
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: scene behind the credits was very telling and it wasn't

725
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: just a joking scene. It was written all over her

726
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: face to me that she was over it. When he

727
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: couldn't get the lines down for their little chef show,

728
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: their food their food show, you can see like frustration

729
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: where I think that if you really were into the person,

730
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: you'd be cracking up alongside with them. But she was

731
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: like no, like I want to get this done. Yeah,

732
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: there was like she was like irritated, and I trust me,

733
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: Jess gets irritated with me. But and Jared has had moments,

734
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: oh me recording an insto story an ad on Instagram?

735
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? He's like, you have done that

736
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: fifteen times. It's not cute anymore. But at this stage

737
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: in the relationship probably should maybe still be cute. It

738
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: definitely should be. I do think it was telling. You're right,

739
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: the romantic connection just wasn't there. However, I do believe

740
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: Rodney still belonged in the top four. I do believe

741
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: that he made progress. Michelle and Rodney made progress in

742
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: their relationship. Um, she felt very excited to see him.

743
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: But it is interesting, like during your hometown dates, you

744
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: have to start asking yourself that question of like who

745
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: could I possibly get engaged to? Or who do I

746
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: want to leave this whole thing with? Might be the

747
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: better way to say that. And when you start asking

748
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: yourself those questions in the midst of these dates, there's

749
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: a there is a little bit more of a heaviness

750
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: to it. And maybe when she started asking that, sitting

751
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: across from Rodney, She's just like, no, but this isn't it,

752
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: Like this isn't my guy. Um, And maybe she felt

753
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: that that way about somebody else here. But for Rodney

754
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: it was enough for him to end up going home.

755
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: But his hometown date was fine. It was fun. Um.

756
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, Rodney is such a lovable,

757
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: warm character. I don't know exactly where that came from,

758
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: because I expected his family to be very like loud

759
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: and boisterous and like huggy and loving. I didn't felt

760
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: like that as much, but um, but it was. It

761
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: was another kind of fine hometown date, and it nothing

762
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: stood out to me. Nope, I agree, all right, So

763
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: let's move on to Joe's, which I feel like I

764
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: have a little bit more to say, just because there

765
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: was just such a lack of conversation. It was silly.

766
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: The producers must have been like, if that's what the

767
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: producers were able to get out of them, they must

768
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: have been struggle buzzing for a couple hours that they

769
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: were sitting down there just because the guys in the

770
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: family seemed so shy, well, or do you just think

771
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: it was lack of interest confusion, Like where do you

772
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: think that was coming from? No, I think with Joe's family,

773
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: it was shyness, like Joe even sad, like you'll hit

774
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: it off with Hannah, and Hannah was definitely needed. That's

775
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: the sister in law. It was definitely needed there for

776
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,959
Speaker 1: commentary reasons because the brother and the dad just had

777
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: nothing to contribute. And I don't think that that was

778
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: in a and I don't care about this type of way.

779
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: I think it was really like, oh my gosh, there

780
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: are so many cameras and lights and frozen and plus

781
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking about emotions and my son's romantic life. This

782
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: is like all but out of my comfort zone. Isn't

783
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: this the day? Isn't Joe and his dad when he

784
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: asked his dad, dad, do you have anything else? Yeah?

785
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: And he's like nope, he was like, no, you have

786
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: to have more questions. He goes, yeah, no, I have questions,

787
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: but I'm not asking them here. And you've never I

788
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: don't think you've ever met somebody so not nervous about

789
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: like how they're gonna look like. He wasn't mean. It

790
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: wasn't like he's going to con as like a villain

791
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: or like the parent that like ends up starting a

792
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: podcast afterwards because they make a name for themselves. He

793
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: just was like, I'm good, Like I'm fine here, like

794
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: I showed up. That's all I need to do. I've

795
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: said hi to you, I love your son, But is

796
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: it totally all right? Well, to reverse the timeline, they

797
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: also end up going to prom on this date. There's

798
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: like a lot of prom themes going on lately, I

799
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,959
Speaker 1: feel like, but this one was kind of cute because

800
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: they are from the same city and Joe never went

801
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: to prom, and he remembered from the letter that Michelle

802
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: shared or the poem whatever it was, that she she

803
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: was picked last or prom, which that's just you know,

804
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: mind blowing um. But that was cute. That was a

805
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: cute little thing to do. And what does that mean.

806
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: I didn't really think about I thought that was a

807
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: little bit weird. It sounds like she made it a sport,

808
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: but really it just means that, like I guess, a

809
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: lot of people were being asked and then it was

810
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: that got down to, oh, there's only a few more

811
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: girls left to ask, I'll ask her. Okay, that makes sense,

812
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: but yeah it does. I mean that's yeah, maybe I'm

813
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: confused because shocking that Michelle wouldn't be asked to prom.

814
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: And then also, you know, I don't remember like the

815
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: timeline of prom, but I never remember who was pick

816
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: last or first, or I just thought people asked each

817
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: other and then you show up to this big room

818
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: and everybody's there. I am m Ashley. There's an infatuation

819
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: right now that The Bachelor has and The Bachelor it

820
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: has food tasting, well know with high school in high school. Yeah,

821
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: and like high school is a great time, uh huge

822
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: impact in our lives, but it is that big of

823
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: a deal to where like I mean, every we've seen

824
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: it multiple times now, the prom, the high school thing,

825
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: like you know, Joe's walking around being that's where I

826
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: went to biology at and stuff. It's like that's cool,

827
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: but high school like legit, So glad you said this

828
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: because it is always fun to go back to your

829
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: high school and reminisce and like look through the window, like,

830
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, that my classroom looks so much different now.

831
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe what they've done. And the smell of

832
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: the hallways and all that stuff. But it's only cool

833
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: and nostalgic for you that your spouse doesn't give a crap.

834
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: Like I took Jared to my high school during COVID

835
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: because he wanted to run around the track, and I'm

836
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: thinking and reminiscing and this is where I did that,

837
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: and that's where that. It's like cool, sweet, nice, and

838
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: he does the kind of the same thing with me.

839
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: But it's just like you're never going to understand what

840
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: it feels like for like person, be a weird date,

841
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: like it's just an odd day. I took Jessica to

842
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: my old office up here in Colorado a couple of

843
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Was so excited. We drove over and it's

844
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: it's it's empty right now. The office is empty. So

845
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: we're looking through the windows and I was like, that's

846
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: where I did that, and that's that in that was

847
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, Tyson's old desk, and there's Adam's old desk

848
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: and Dylan's old desk, and I could tell She's just like,

849
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I have node. Yeah, I have no clue

850
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: what that means, Like that's that sounds great, being good job.

851
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: But Joe's date did. I did feel like, for whatever reason,

852
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: I could tell during that day that Joe and Michelle

853
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: have something special. Um she even in the words that

854
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: she used to explain him to her, to his family,

855
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: I can tell that Joe at that moment, I was

856
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: gonna it was gonna be a shocking exit if he

857
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: was released on this episode. I just didn't see it

858
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: happening because I felt like they do have something good going.

859
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: There's a lot of depth there, and it feels like

860
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: even kind of based on their history of chatting a

861
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: little bit, there obviously is a lot of intrigue still,

862
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: But that's how I'm going to describe their relationship is

863
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: it's still at a level of intrigue that it's not

864
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: quite to where I feel like in two weeks we're

865
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: gonna watch them get engaged. They might leave this thing together,

866
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: which should be awesome, but I still think it's a

867
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: lot of curiosity and not as much the love and

868
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: the connection that sometimes we see on hometowns for our

869
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: couples that were like, oh, this is it. But that's

870
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: kind of what how I feel about all of these guys.

871
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: Like she keeps talking about how her connection to them,

872
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: she like wishes that she had one connection, but now

873
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: she's blessed with four, And I'm like, yeah, you might

874
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: have four connections, but like, do you have like four

875
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: people you can imagine yourself being engaged to let alone one?

876
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: I mean she says, yes, I don't feel it through

877
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: the TV, but then again it's just through the TV.

878
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: So yeah. I mean if I would say right now,

879
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: which guys are most into her, I would say name Brandon.

880
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: I would say Nathan Brandon, but you would say brand

881
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: in the Nate, right, I'd say Brandon and then Nate.

882
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: So I think that I think I think Nate is

883
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: into her, and I think she's into him, but he

884
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: also is like the one that I would worry the

885
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: most about it lasting long term with I get that, well, yeah, mostly,

886
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: and we can jump into it now it's Nate's hometown day.

887
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's where this that's where that you know

888
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: comes from, where you worried about it lasting long time,

889
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: any amount of time with because his family is nervous

890
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: about the same thing that they don't know if Nate

891
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: is ready. But Nate starts to stay out by wanting

892
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: to bring a piece of Austin to Minnesota, and so

893
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: they paddle board like they would uh in Austin. It's

894
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: a very popular thing there that they, you know, kind

895
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: of had a little picnic like they would Zaker Park.

896
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 1: When Michelle, during this little picnic time, starts asking Nate,

897
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: who am I meeting and what's it gonna be? Like,

898
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: you can tell that the emotional com open this of

899
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: Nate in this family is not there. That's not even

900
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: a bad thing. They just don't have that type of relationship.

901
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: But you can tell it then, And that's like, okay,

902
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: because there's lots of families like that. I don't I

903
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: don't come from a family like that. I can't imagine

904
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: having not said I love you and not talking about

905
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: emotions and like difficulties and all that. But it still

906
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: seems like they're close despite that. That was that was

907
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: the vibe that I got. So just this date, I

908
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: just felt like it was really productive for him. I

909
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: think she kind of said the same thing like even

910
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: if they don't end up together, this was like a

911
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: moment that is so important that he had that he

912
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: had in his life to be able to say I

913
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: love you to his stepdad for the first time. Did

914
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: his dad say it back? They didn't show it, but

915
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: he said that he did, so I guess, um, yeah, yeah,

916
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: And I think that he was most emotional about the

917
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: family dynamic as well throughout the night and less and

918
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 1: it was like Michelle was a side note, which again

919
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: I think is totally okay in this situation. Yeah, it's

920
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: a lot for your family to go into. Uh and

921
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: when there are you know, when you're being asked to

922
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: sit your family down and tell him about stuff that

923
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: you've never talked to him before. In this environment with cameras,

924
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: with people, I could see where Nate's mind would go.

925
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: I have to work on this stuff and that, like

926
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: in order to get to a place where they even

927
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: can get to know Michelle and no Michelle and eyes relationship. Yeah,

928
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: but Michelle definitely left this date with worries concerns about

929
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: his readiness. Yeah, well, mostly because his family told her

930
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: straight up. Yeah, but you should be worried about this, Like,

931
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ready now, it's not necessarily

932
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: relationship thing. Just because he's never had a relationship and

933
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: brought a girl home before. I don't think it's a

934
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: red flag. She said that. She said that's a red flag,

935
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: but like it's that's debatable. Did Jess ever have a

936
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: serious relationship before you? Yeah, I didn't think so, I'm not,

937
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: like you, not a real serious one. I think her

938
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: parents had met a few of the people, but like

939
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: she was known, and she always will say like she

940
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: was the one day wonder, like she went on one

941
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: day and was done, and so no, she didn't. Um, Yeah,

942
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: but that wasn't a red flag because like you knew

943
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: because she knew herself so well and her family, like

944
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: she was so comfortable with intimacy and all that. Yeah, definitely,

945
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 1: it wasn't a red flag. I mean there was things

946
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: like even when her dating, she just didn't know like

947
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: how to progress in the dating world, which like that

948
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: I was like, so what's the next step? So then

949
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: like your boyfriend and girlfriend and it's like what do

950
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: you do? How do you do? How do you find

951
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: things to talk about? That's the real thing. Yeah, it

952
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: comes naturally, even though you have no idea that it's

953
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: going to come naturally. No, So I don't think that's

954
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: where it's like. I think from all of this, I

955
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: am most nervous about Nate because of it felt like

956
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: his family trying to say it without fully saying it

957
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: as a long term relationship. We don't know if he's ready,

958
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: not because he hasn't had one, but because of just

959
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: who he is right now in his life. We don't

960
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: know if he's ready. And uh, and that was what

961
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: worried me most. Yeah, all right, well we'll see. They

962
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: definitely built it up as if he was going to

963
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: be on the chopping block, but that is not what happened.

964
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: He got called second, He got called second um, which

965
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't put too much weight into, uh, but ended

966
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: up Rodney's going home. And Rodney was sent home in

967
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: an emotional exit, one that felt like he was upset

968
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 1: and he was hurt. He cared a lot about Michelle.

969
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: This had to be a great experience for him. As

970
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: we said a month ago, well, our hope was that

971
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: he would realize he's not the underdog and that he

972
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: would get some confidence from this thing, because I do

973
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: believe he felt that way, and that he would grow

974
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: and we'd watch it on television. I think we did.

975
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: I think we saw Rodney grow into a very confident

976
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: which he should be person from the time that he

977
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: admitted that he didn't feel like he belonged there to

978
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: the time he got released. Yeah, yeah, he should. Definitely,

979
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be one of those people that leaves the

980
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: show building confidence and that's gonna help him in his

981
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: dating life. Yeah, he's We're gonna see him thrive and

982
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: at least we hope so. So the sneak peak the

983
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: Mental All is next. Um, we got to see some

984
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: guys who caused some controversy during the season come back

985
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: to the Mental All. The Bachelor is returning with Clayton.

986
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: We get a little preview. Have they announced this yet though?

987
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: Outside of this No, I mean yes, maybe, I have

988
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: no idea. I have not seen official announcement that Clayton

989
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: is the Bachelor. I mean, I don't know if they're

990
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: just not going to or what, but I haven't seen

991
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: it yet. He still looks super undynamic during his season,

992
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: but I do have faith that the girls will carry it.

993
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 1: We got we got some inside information that this season

994
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: is really good. Yes, I don't know if it's ever

995
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: going to be said, not that it's not good, but

996
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: we do hear that it's good. I don't think I

997
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: mean from fan of fair I don't think people are thrilled.

998
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it's because Clayton is a bad dude.

999
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it's because, Um, I'm not going to

1000
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: really enjoy talking about this podcast. But it's just because

1001
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 1: I don't think he shined in a captivating way during

1002
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: his time on the Bachelorette, Like he didn't have his

1003
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: one moment, even his one bachelor. They tried with his,

1004
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: They tried, they tried, and it still didn't feel genuine

1005
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: to me because I knew that they had to do it. Yeah,

1006
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: it means. I even got a d M from somebody

1007
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: who's a listener of the podcast and said, do you

1008
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: think that possibly they recorded that segment after they named

1009
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: him the Bachelor? Maybe, I mean they had to go

1010
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: they had to really really fight for this one because

1011
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: his he just didn't have his one moment where other

1012
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: guys did this season, they had their one moment that

1013
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: would stand out. He didn't have it. And uh, and

1014
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: I think the fans are confused at how he was chosen.

1015
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: So easily, but we're gonna wait and watch. I'm just

1016
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: hoping it's a good season. The Bachelor needs a good season. Uh,

1017
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: it needs a captivating season. It needs one that we

1018
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: can get into. I'm hoping it's it. We're gonna hold

1019
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: our breath um for that because we we hope for it.

1020
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: But that is this week's episode. Next week, we're down

1021
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: to the final three of Michelle's season. It's Nate, It's Brandon,

1022
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: and it's Joe. Three people that are not shocking to

1023
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: us that are still around. Uh, it was fairly expected,

1024
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: but now it gets really interesting because I don't know

1025
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: if I could rank them, But if you had to, Ashley,

1026
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: what is your ranking of the person that you believe

1027
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: will win this thing and be with Michelle in the end.

1028
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 1: Do you know what's so weird? I have changed my ranking.

1029
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: Brandon is number one to me now she's most in

1030
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: all with him, and I think he's most in all

1031
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: with her, And then I think Nate is second, and

1032
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: then Joe is third. And I thought that based on

1033
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: last week, Joe may have been more like a second

1034
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: about you. I would go I'd still go Joe, then

1035
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: I go Brandon, and I'll go to Nate. I thought

1036
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: Nate's hometown. So what's the rank Brandon? Then sorry, Joe

1037
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: number one? Okay? Really, so my number three and you're

1038
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: number one? Yeah, okay. I just feel like there's something

1039
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: really strong there. I don't know if it's like perfected

1040
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: and that we can I just feel like there's something

1041
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: really strong there. And I think they both want each other,

1042
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: which I think helps. I don't get that feeling as

1043
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: much for the other guys. So then Brandon number two

1044
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: and Nate number three. So it's Joe, Brandon Nate for me. Okay,

1045
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. And like I told the

1046
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: audience last week, we are unspoiled, and it is fun

1047
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: to be unspoiled. I haven't been spoiled in a long time, exactly.

1048
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: This is a couple of seasons in a row now

1049
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: and it's really nice. Well, alright, let's take a break.

1050
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: We come back. What Bachelor headlines, and there are a

1051
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: lot of them this week. First headline of this week

1052
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: with our resident expert, Ashley I Kennetti, like Moyne's gives

1053
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: super honest answer about whether he'd be the Bachelor Disaccording

1054
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: to US Weekly, I don't believe his answer for Race

1055
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: and Nidget. When asked about being the Bachelor, he said no.

1056
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: He said, I am in no way prepared to go

1057
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: through meeting thirty women, especially after all of that. Referring

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00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: to what he has just been through with Katie, he goes,

1059
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: my ego is hurt right now. I feel like an

1060
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: idiot with how things played out. When you're so sure

1061
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: about something and you feel like you've found your rock

1062
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden to be able to turn

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00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: that rock and try to find another one within a

1064
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: time frame that we have on The Bachelorette, No. He

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00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: also a source also tells US Weekly that he was

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00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: blindsided to find out that Katie had already moved on

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00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: to another relationship, which we will talk about in a minute,

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00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: with this guy John John Hersey. Now, okay, so we're

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00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: getting a little detail now this this interview when Blake

1070
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: said no, he would not be um The Bachelor was

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01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: recorded or at least released on November, so this was

1072
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: obviously once Katie had kind of put the stuff with

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01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: John out there. It's making me feel like, especially reading

1074
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: these quotes from Blake, that he he was the one

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01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: broken up with do you feel like this was a

1076
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: mutual breakup now, because I think like, if you were

1077
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: to ask me in October, I was like, yeah, sure.

1078
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: But now, I mean, there's so much speculation as to

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01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: what's going on. There were pictures of Blake and Katie

1080
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: in the back of an airplane, a little prop plane

1081
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: that John was flying with another girl, like they were

1082
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: on a double date together, and then all of a sudden,

1083
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: thanks switch. Yeah, I'm not accusing Katie at all of cheating.

1084
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: And we do have a headline about this in a

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01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: little bit. That's where I'm gonna jump to is right now.

1086
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: This this goes into his next headline. Blake Moyne's mom

1087
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: is out here liking Instagram comments about Katie Thurston's alleged deception.

1088
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: This according to Cosmos, So this is the headline that

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01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: Blake Moyne's mom is liking Instagram comments about Katie Thurston's

1090
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: alleged deception. First off, I'm not a fan of that, Like,

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01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: that's not okay, but that is the headline and it

1092
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: is happening, okay. So this is one of the the

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01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: comments that she liked. Nah, this is terrible on Katie's part.

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01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: I truly feel sorry for Blake. In any relationship, you

1095
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: put a sense of trust in one another, especially in

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01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: long distance relationships, there's no denying the dishonesty and deception

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01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: for months upon months. And I think this fan is

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01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: saying this because Katie was so open about her friendship

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01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: with John and how much she was hanging out with him. Um.

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01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: They also both unfollowed each other again, sources saying that

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01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: Blake felt um blindsided. Um, yeah, so I the deception

1102
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: part is probably that Katie had a relationship with John

1103
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: that was like deeper and less friendly perhaps or was

1104
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: evolving into something that was less friendly while being with Blake,

1105
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: because the timeline between the announcement of their breakup and

1106
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: the announcement of this relationship was so short. And hey,

1107
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: we've talked about it before, Ashley, how soon is too

1108
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: soon to move on? There's no good answer to that.

1109
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: There is no good answer to that. I would say,

1110
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: what is like, you know, usually happens is a few months,

1111
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: a few weeks, whatever. But at the same time, if

1112
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: this John guy and Katie end up in love and

1113
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: get married, then like, yeah, unfortunate for Blake, But is

1114
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: it wrong as long as there wasn't cheating going on

1115
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: and my point of view, no, it would be okay

1116
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: as long as it wasn't cheating. Cheating, Yeah, as long

1117
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: as there wasn't cheating, as long as they were actually

1118
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: truly strictly friends until until that breakup. That breakup happened,

1119
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: and that could be possible, it could be. Well, it's

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01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: a messy situation, obviously, batter Nation breakups are never fun. Uh.

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01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: And Katie, you know, has kind of uh been all

1122
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: over the place, uh with this whole thing and then

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01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: posting about with the Taylor Swift stuff. So the Taylor

1124
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: Swift stuff. Should I break that down a little bit? Yeah,

1125
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: go ahead, because it brings attention to kind of her

1126
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: strategy as this breakups happened. It definitely didn't go with

1127
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, when I had my breakup, the strategy was

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01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay quiet. We're both gonna stay quiet, right. Um.

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01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: You know, she moved on fast, um or fast. I

1130
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: guess she moved on fast and than I did, and

1131
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: that hurts, but you know, you can't be mad about it,

1132
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: Like it just happens, like you find somebody else and

1133
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: you try your best to move on. But we stayed

1134
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: quiet because I thought that was like the best thing.

1135
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: Katie hasn't gone with that strategy good, bad, or and different.

1136
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: So Katie did this thing that we did talk about

1137
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: last week, but I didn't have a great grasp on

1138
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: it because she wasn't saving these stories to her like bio,

1139
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. Like, so, once they

1140
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: were done, they were done, so I didn't see them

1141
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: all in consecutive order, but now I have. So she

1142
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: has this thing called twelve Days of Messy and uh.

1143
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: She basically used a different song from Taylor Swiop's Red

1144
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: album two in a way dedicate to different guys, most

1145
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: of them public x is. I think they might all

1146
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: be public excess. So the first day was Day one.

1147
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: It was Blake and the song was we are Never

1148
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: getting back Together. Okay, that's pretty blatantly obvious what she

1149
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: was trying to say. There feels hard. Yeah, that is

1150
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: that sounds harsh, as if like he did something wrong right,

1151
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: and maybe he did, we don't know, but yeah, if

1152
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: definitely feels that way, like it doesn't feel like kind Yeah, okay,

1153
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: So the number two is Andrew. She's referring to Andrew

1154
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: from her season and the song is run and the

1155
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: basically I don't know not. This is a new one,

1156
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: so I'm not exactly sure lyrically what it what it is,

1157
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: but I do believe that's like if you were to

1158
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: like call me back right now, like I would go

1159
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: for it. You know, we can do this all over again.

1160
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: And then she posted a picture along with it with

1161
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: the note that she gave to Andrew saying, if you

1162
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: change your mind, I'll be waiting. Oh that was what

1163
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: Andrew gave to her on his which time? Does that

1164
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,959
Speaker 1: feel weird considering she's at this point with somebody else, Yeah, okay,

1165
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm alright. I'm just wondering. Okay. Day number three, uh

1166
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: is Girl at Home, and that is dedicated to Aaron

1167
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: and James. Girl at Home is the song I Know

1168
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: you have a Girl at Home. Basically, it's about like

1169
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm not going to date you because I know you

1170
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: have a girl at home. Um, maybe we shouldn't go

1171
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: through all of them because it takes can take a minute,

1172
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: but this is notable because it's Thomas, and Thomas is

1173
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: pretty relevant right now. She uses the song I knew

1174
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: you were trouble, you know, I knew you were trouble

1175
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: when you walked into to Thomas Mikey Holy Ground, which

1176
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: makes sense because he was Um the Virgin. Then we

1177
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: have Randon she refers to, and Michael a she she uses,

1178
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: I almost do, And that is a song about like

1179
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: if the guy reaches out to you. So in the song,

1180
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: the guy reaches out to Taylor, and Taylor talks about

1181
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: how hard it is for her to like not respond

1182
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: because she knows that if she worded to respond that

1183
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: it would just like this would happened again. So also

1184
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: kind of interesting, So maybe Michael has reached out to Katie. Maybe,

1185
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: But also here to close this one up, was there

1186
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: any about John? Okay? So you're like, okay, actually it's

1187
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: shut up. So yes, the one about John is begin Again,

1188
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: which is the song on the album about like never

1189
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: thinking that I was going to get over the last guy,

1190
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: but then I showed up at a coffee shop and

1191
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: I had a cute day and and you were so pleasant.

1192
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: I never would have thought that I would want to

1193
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: begin again, but you make me want to. Oh my goodness. Well,

1194
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 1: a lot going on over there in the Katie Thurston,

1195
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: Blake Moins Taylor Swift world. Obviously a lot of opinions

1196
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: being had, but that's what we know right now. Now

1197
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 1: onto a next relationship, one that is in really good spirits,

1198
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:57,439
Speaker 1: in a really good place. But an interesting headline coming

1199
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: from the Ben Higgins and Jessica Agan's wedding Bachelor Nations.

1200
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: Dean Angler told Kalin she should propose to him. This

1201
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: according to E, Yeah, I heard about this this week. Um,

1202
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: so so what happened here? Um, this conversation happened at

1203
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: your wedding. Yeah, conversation happened at my wedding. Okay, So

1204
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: Derek pays fiancee. I was talking to Calin, and um,

1205
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 1: she said, are they married? Since you know? She asked

1206
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: Derek like, are they married because he's wearing a ring?

1207
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: And then he said, as far as the government's concerned, no,

1208
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: but as far as our hearts concerned, yes, That's what

1209
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: Dean said. And then Calin leaned over and said, will

1210
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: be it will be engaged by trust me hm. Then

1211
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: Dean goes, I don't know if she's speaking for me

1212
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: or if she's saying that because she's going to propose

1213
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: to me. He says, I've made it pretty clear to her.

1214
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: I was like, if you really want to get married,

1215
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: you should be the one proposing to me. So I

1216
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: think she's got something in the works for that. My goodness, well,

1217
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't think of it happening in any other way. Seriously,

1218
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: come on, don't put Klin in that situation. Dean. Yeah. Well, uh,

1219
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: hopefully she's confident that he would say yes. I think

1220
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: he would. She's just going to be that guy. My

1221
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: one of my best friends she joked for She joked

1222
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: one night. She was like, one day, I'm going to

1223
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 1: propose to you. And she made her keep that promise

1224
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: and she did. There you go, Hey, new times, new things.

1225
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: Why not? Um, But come on, Dean, if Calin wants

1226
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: you to propose to her, if that's her desire, then

1227
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: go for it. That's my opinion. If if she's saying

1228
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 1: I want to propose you, great, whatever, But if she's asking,

1229
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: like saying, Dean, come on please, then give come on Dean. Um. Well,

1230
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: next headline is this Colton Underwood wants to find himself

1231
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: in Coming Out Colton trailer. The quote I watched the trailer. Yeah,

1232
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 1: it's a good trailer. Um. The quote is I didn't

1233
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: want to be gay. This according to US Weekly, So

1234
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: you definitely get the vibe through watching the trailer that

1235
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot of things addressed. One his

1236
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: just his hesitance, is his just wanting to literally he

1237
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: said like he would He just thought at one point

1238
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: he would die with this secret. We are going to

1239
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: talk about being like a football player who's gay. We're

1240
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: going to talk about coming out to his dad, which

1241
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 1: he was so so nervous about, and he does it

1242
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: on camera on this show. And we're also going to

1243
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: address Cassie a lot. He talks about how he totally

1244
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: screwed her, like screwed her over um, and he just

1245
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: treated her so poorly. He treated her poorly. Um. We

1246
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: talked about the restraining They're going to talk about the

1247
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: restraining order in this show, and it's gonna be a lot.

1248
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: But um, it looks very intriguing to me. It does. Um,

1249
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: it does look very intriguing to me. Yeah, it looks

1250
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: well done. Yeah, yeah, I you know there's uh. I

1251
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: hope it's gonna help many. Um. I hope Colton is good.

1252
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 1: But I haven't talked to Colton in years, so I

1253
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 1: have no clue. But it does look intriguing. Final headline

1254
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: of today is one kind of writing off of our

1255
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: comments earlier, says John Hersey went on record to nine

1256
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: Katie Thurston cheated on Blake moins Is according to Cosmos.

1257
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: So at this point we do believe from everything we

1258
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: hear and know that there was no cheating going on. Okay,

1259
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: so there's two parts to this. Blake is on was

1260
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: on the Talking About podcast where he starts saying that,

1261
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: you know, you think about timelines, it's kind of suspicious.

1262
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: I know they spent a lot of time together and stuff,

1263
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: but there's no way I didn't have I never had

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Speaker 1: an inkling that they would like get together. He also said,

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Speaker 1: I'm secure guy, I'm confident guy, and I give my

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Speaker 1: trust out on especially to the person I should be

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Speaker 1: trusting the most. I really don't think there was any

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Speaker 1: physical cheating there, but there's definitely clearly um emotional for

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Speaker 1: it to translate as quickly as possible as quickly as

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Speaker 1: it did. And Blake is obviously not the only one

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Speaker 1: question this timeline, the super quick timeline, so because there's

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Speaker 1: so many fans out there doing so. On Friday, John

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Speaker 1: revealed that he had a lot of thoughts on the subject,

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Speaker 1: and he wrote about these thoughts on Reddit. Sure, why

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Speaker 1: would you go there come on almost famous podcast John

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Speaker 1: What Okay he goes. This is where he posted a

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Speaker 1: lengthy open letter denying any and all rumors of wrongdoing

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Speaker 1: or infidelity. Katie and I developed an incredible and deep

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Speaker 1: friendship over the last half a year or so. The

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Speaker 1: circumstances by which this friendship formed was a series of crazy,

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Speaker 1: random and coincidental events that I'm sure you'll hear all

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Speaker 1: about at a later point. My point for now is

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Speaker 1: that they were always platonic um. He says that he

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Speaker 1: and Katie hadn't even had a romantic connection when he

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Speaker 1: was actively vying for her love on the s on

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Speaker 1: the season because he was on her season and stating

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Speaker 1: very directly that they hadn't cheated and there was no

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Speaker 1: wrongdoing prior to the end of her engagement. Uh. He

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Speaker 1: also went on to address that fast and messy timeline,

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Speaker 1: which he admitted that he and Katie knew didn't make

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Speaker 1: for good optics. He said, I urge you to put

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Speaker 1: yourself in our shoes. Once Katie and I realized there

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Speaker 1: was a romantic connection that we were interested in exploring,

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Speaker 1: we were not starting from scratch. We were building off

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Speaker 1: of the foundation of a close friendship which through which

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Speaker 1: we had already gotten to know each other so well.

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Speaker 1: The speed at which I fell for this incredible, nurturing, caring,

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Speaker 1: genuinely caring human was honestly terrifying. I was scared, but

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Speaker 1: every step felt so right. Wow, but redd It, what

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Speaker 1: an interesting choice, What an interesting choice. What a close

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Speaker 1: out today's episode. We want to give a big congratulations

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Speaker 1: to Astrid and Kevin. Um. They have revealed the baby's

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Speaker 1: name for the first time. Uh, they clapp back at critics,

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Speaker 1: so they didn't reveal it right away. But August William went, Um,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna call him um. Augie was born seven and

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Speaker 1: a half pounds. Congratulations to both them on announcing the name. Also, um,

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Speaker 1: congratulations to having their little boy. August William went, well,

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Speaker 1: he's so cute. He's so cute. Well that's all we

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Speaker 1: have for today. What a great episode. Thanks for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: But with that, I'm back and I've been Ben yay,

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Speaker 1: and I am here still and I've been. Ashley By

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