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Speaker 1: It is Monday, the eighteenth of November twenty nineteen, and

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Speaker 1: it is time for Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Donk's. My name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I'm the host of this program next to my trustee

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Speaker 1: Seed and co host from CBS Sports, as well as

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Speaker 1: a bunch of podcasts I focused on professional wrestling. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure the one only Brian Campbell. Brian, Oh, I'm fired up.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good. You didn't ask me, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: tell you right now.

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Speaker 4: Guys, just a little disclaimer on how when we start

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Speaker 4: this show, Luke really an angry person to begin with.

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Speaker 4: Not a lot of sleep going on for this new dad,

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Speaker 4: So buckle up and get ready.

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Speaker 1: All right, have you been watching any of the New

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Speaker 1: Disney Plus programs maybe a little of the Mandalorian.

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Speaker 4: I have friends who have pirated those episodes, So I'm

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Speaker 4: setting up a time with my sons to sit down

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Speaker 4: and really have a bonding experience.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't work for them anymore. There was

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Speaker 2: a time though we had a good run. Who give

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Speaker 2: the ship? Just pay for the service. It's cheap to

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Speaker 2: these services I'm paying for. I'm man services are many.

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Speaker 4: Then we'll get a WW network de zone showtime, YouTube, TV,

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Speaker 4: you can do for you TV Hulu.

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Speaker 2: You told me before the show you didn't have Netflix. Liar,

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Speaker 2: I said I had.

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Speaker 3: I said I just watched too much wrestling.

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Speaker 4: I don't have time all right, But look, Luke can

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Speaker 4: talk about my personal life. These people want to talk

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Speaker 4: about mm an boxing and they need to understand something. Okay,

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Speaker 4: this show is realer than real deal. Hold it field,

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Speaker 4: So all your hookers and hoes know how we feel.

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Speaker 4: We bring it unlike any other luc Okay, I like how.

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Speaker 1: When you when you put them in normally in the conversation,

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Speaker 1: well normally such as one can say that I enjoy

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Speaker 1: it when you do the prep for the opening like this.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's right off the domein right. I don't believe

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get people to hit that subscribe button. Look, okay,

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Speaker 4: because it's holiday season, you want to pay it forward,

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Speaker 4: you want to spread it wide.

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Speaker 2: It's the time, right.

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Speaker 1: I think in all seriousness, since the last episode, we've

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Speaker 1: added about one thousand. So the goal is to get

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Speaker 1: to thirty thousand by January one, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: We're not that far away. I'll tell you what, if

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Speaker 2: we can get to fifty. Look will take us top off, won't.

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Speaker 1: But that's interesting in any event where if we can

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Speaker 1: get to thirty by thirty k but you have.

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Speaker 4: To be fighting the Columbian women off of this bomb

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Speaker 4: shelter there, that'd be great.

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Speaker 2: But the fact.

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Speaker 1: The fact that even women work on this show, to

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Speaker 1: me is sort of a minor miracle. But okay, seriously,

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Speaker 1: let's get the show started. Subscribe, Please subscribe to get

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Speaker 1: the video a thumbs up. Subscribe, We really appreciate that

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Speaker 1: when you do help us reach our goal. We're not

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Speaker 1: too far away, but we need consistent subs. We go

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Speaker 1: over a week to get there, especially by the way,

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Speaker 1: at this time in the calendar, as you know, the

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Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving Christmas time in the calendar. There are some

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Speaker 1: good shows in December, but we are in a very

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Speaker 1: bad time for the calendar.

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Speaker 4: Turn shout out to the Honkkah viewers out there as well.

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Speaker 4: Like our producer Jay, so you gotta you gotta, you know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why you're as Honaka's started. No, but

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Speaker 2: it's coming up.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's we haven't even reached Thanksgiving. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying I don't want Are you one of those assholes.

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Speaker 1: I want a tree for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: I don't want you.

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Speaker 3: To be inclusive. I want this to be a show

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Speaker 3: for all people.

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Speaker 1: Are you one of those assholes who puts a tree

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Speaker 1: up before things give?

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Speaker 4: So here's the story about me putting up my tree yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Last year, I didn't really give my family a Christmas.

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Speaker 4: I was traveling for many different networks, covering a lot

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Speaker 4: of fights. Dad of the year, I had a vacation

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Speaker 4: planned like the week after Christmas.

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Speaker 3: The tree barely made it up.

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Speaker 4: The lights never made up on the house, so I

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Speaker 4: trees up, the lights are up, and it's barely November.

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Speaker 2: You see.

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Speaker 4: I don't usually do that because Thanksgiving is the best

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Speaker 4: holiday ever by far, hands down.

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Speaker 3: That while I love me some Christmas, I love me

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Speaker 3: some Jesus Christ. To believe that. I want Thanksgiving to

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Speaker 4: I need songs, I need decorations, I need, really it

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Speaker 4: to be a I don't care about.

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, but the pagan rituals around him are interesting

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Speaker 1: to me. In any event, let's get to what happened

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Speaker 1: over this weekend. We'll talk about subsequent weekends in just

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Speaker 1: a moment. UFC sal Polo was over the weekend and

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Speaker 1: it sucked.

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Speaker 2: It sucked a lot.

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Speaker 1: It was a really really bad card, like any card

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Speaker 1: when the UFC, it had some gems.

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Speaker 1: The win for the Gentlemen's the the Charles Vera, he

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Speaker 1: on the feet. It's all fun in games. And look

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Speaker 1: in the end, guys are fighting other guys that are

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Speaker 1: that are very good, which makes it very difficult Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: But dude, this event it was terrible. It was not

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Speaker 4: I mean we had to even watch a former pomp

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Speaker 1: I mean it was just it was heartbreaking. Well now defeat,

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Speaker 1: it was a tie, right, it was a draw. I

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Speaker 1: talk about Shogun. No, he was never the king. Dana

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Speaker 2: Oh who's the king?

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Speaker 1: The baron era It's still real to me, but I

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Speaker 1: I think Aaron Bronsiter pointed out his first fourteen years

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, or you're Ryah Favor once came on

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Speaker 4: my show and said that USADA is to blame for that,

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Speaker 1: Or well, you know what could be true in any event,

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Speaker 2: They've pulled ten thousand people to that.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, it would be nice to have

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Speaker 2: Like that guy from Uruguay who.

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Speaker 3: Is we owe this network fights.

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Speaker 2: It's really more yeah, like we owe content, and we also.

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Speaker 1: If you don't you know, if you don't make that

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Speaker 2: Pay them anyway.

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Speaker 1: So it was just like, let's just do it as

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Speaker 1: had truly, truly no purpose. And I get that, like

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Speaker 1: not every event can be exciting, But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: beyond what I am articulating, what on earth was the

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Speaker 4: Well, I think there's three indisputable facts about MMA that

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Speaker 4: we really have to get down to the bottom. Number one,

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Speaker 4: Yoanna was right, brett O Komodo is the best looking

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Speaker 4: at May journalist. And this card sucked the horn, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Oh the third on Epstein didn't

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Speaker 2: Mean, this was just bad.

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Speaker 3: Not only it comes from fascist websites, but not.

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Speaker 4: Only was it just a bad card, but really, what

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Speaker 4: the main event gave you was an opportunity for Yon

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Speaker 4: to me, hammered home what the UFC had said by

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Speaker 2: What am I saying?

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Speaker 4: Fresh off that knockout against Luke rock Hold, in which

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Speaker 4: there against John Jones next. What they said by booking

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Speaker 4: We'll give you a main event, We'll we'll give you

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Speaker 2: We'll do that.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, with Jon's performance in the end, it kind of

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Speaker 4: those where it's like, maybe every main event shouldn't be

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Speaker 4: just a sparring session that didn't make anyone look good. Yes,

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Speaker 4: Jockeray did many good things to make Ahowitch fight that way,

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Speaker 4: if you walk in downcoming traffic like lucrocol.

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Speaker 3: Didn't just throw punches then counter you.

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Speaker 4: But if not, man, this certainly was not the performance

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Speaker 4: love the guy. Great quote brings the pain if you

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Speaker 2: The thing that was.

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Speaker 3: Painful was staying up to watch his card in the end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So the two points about this that I think matter

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Speaker 1: cemented the fact that there is no chance Lance and

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Speaker 1: Don Reyes. Worse, I don't know if they're gonna give

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Speaker 1: even if John goes in there and blows the doors

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Speaker 2: Why on earth? Like John already is sort.

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Speaker 1: Of hesitant about fighting Dominic Reyes, now you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: I mean, I appreciate the fact that this guy has been.

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Speaker 1: though he got the W. The second part is for Jacqueray.

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Speaker 1: It's like he was saying Brian all the right things

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Speaker 1: in the week leading up to the fight. I'm not

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Speaker 2: Why would you do that, Brendan?

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Speaker 4: I just watched the Jones fight again. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he would to get it, dude, I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: You want to see the remassed scylin. No, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I really, I.

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Speaker 4: Didn't mean to open the show and be a hater.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I didn't mean to do that.

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Speaker 2: Are you this duo?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're the nice guy of the duo, but you

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Speaker 3: I mean, the four right chords could make me cry.

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Speaker 2: Look you know what I'm saying. Please die.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next topic. Nick

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Speaker 1: So let's get your take on this first, because I

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Speaker 1: How is Nick?

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Speaker 4: I made the mistake, Luke and I didn't even realize

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Speaker 4: I'll advise, well, let's roll the dice, let's do this,

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Speaker 4: Let's get him in there with Connor, Let's make freak fights,

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Speaker 2: Then I went back.

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Speaker 2: Luke.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, in my younger days, I've been a part of many,

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Speaker 4: many conversations just like the one Ariel and Nick had. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: And I know that there was sort of a back

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Speaker 1: I had people reach out to me. I generally agree

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Speaker 3: Pretty much could have been high, that's fine.

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Speaker 4: But I saw a man who just doesn't seem right mentally,

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Speaker 3: He had any sort of joy for the sport. In

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Speaker 3: the art anymore. Who didn't seem like.

443
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Speaker 4: He had a healthy status quo right now. I did

444
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Speaker 4: see some of that jealousy that Rashad spoke up about.

445
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Speaker 4: I said, yeah, you know, you're right, I do see

446
00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,160
Speaker 4: that in there. And that's fine. That's not anything overall

447
00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,360
Speaker 4: that that could be damaging.

448
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Speaker 3: And look, he's thirty six, and even.

449
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Speaker 4: With the inactivity, could he get back into a camp

450
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Speaker 4: and get into good shape and do well in a fight.

451
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Speaker 4: Maybe I just think overall, Luke, we're doing dime store

452
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Speaker 4: psychology here or or sort of you know, pretending to

453
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Speaker 4: be a doctor and prescribe and diagnosing here. But what

454
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Speaker 4: I saw there just mentally did not seem like a

455
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Speaker 4: happy or healthy person, somebody who's in.

456
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Speaker 3: A good spot.

457
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Speaker 4: So the idea of this spinning into oh, he talked

458
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Speaker 4: drash about Jorge and Jorge said, let's do it. I'm

459
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Speaker 4: sort of like, let's not do it. He's been Nick

460
00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,720
Speaker 4: has been away from the game a very long time,

461
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Speaker 4: and you look back and he really hasn't had a

462
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Speaker 4: win since twenty eleven, and it has only appeared what

463
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Speaker 4: twice since twenty thirteen, And I think it's it looks

464
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Speaker 4: like it's passed him by in many ways mentally, and.

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Speaker 2: The jealousy thing I think is interesting. I hadn't given

466
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Speaker 2: him much thought.

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Speaker 1: I would say there was a like the Diaz brothers,

468
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Speaker 1: here's a reality about their record. They are right, absolutely right.

469
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Speaker 1: I've said it on the show. I said it last week.

470
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Speaker 1: I'll say it again this week. They are absolutely right,

471
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Speaker 1: both of them, especially Nick, who was sort of a

472
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Speaker 1: vanguard for leading the change on marijuana culture and acceptance.

473
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Speaker 1: I remember the Devidoff Commission went to ban him for

474
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Speaker 1: life and then it was five years. Is insane punishments

475
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Speaker 1: among other problems. Remember has win over attacking Norri Gilmi

476
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Speaker 1: had to get vacated, the whole bit. They've had a

477
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Speaker 1: series of real grievances about they had opportunities in life

478
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Speaker 1: and sometimes they were given, but they were given with

479
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Speaker 1: strings attached, or the you know, the winds got vacated,

480
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Speaker 1: or they got made an example of just it. It

481
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Speaker 1: didn't go as well as it should have had they

482
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Speaker 1: been somebody a little bit cleaner cut.

483
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Speaker 2: Those are all real grievances.

484
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Speaker 1: The problem, it seems to me, as best I can tell,

485
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Speaker 1: which you're right, we're only doing unter psychology, is that

486
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Speaker 1: they have turned those grievances into a worldview of pity,

487
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Speaker 1: and that worldview of pity is now coloring everything. Uh,

488
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Speaker 1: and it just makes him hard to get out of

489
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Speaker 1: first gear. For whatever it is, it's sort of the endgame.

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Speaker 4: It's I mean, we've partied with a lot of people

491
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Speaker 4: like this and it's fun for a while. And it

492
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Speaker 4: always then said in the end, And I'm not just

493
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Speaker 4: gonna sit here and say, he looks like he took

494
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Speaker 4: the he bumped up, he took the hit he was given,

495
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Speaker 4: and he bumped again, and then he bumped again. But

496
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Speaker 4: this looks like a guy who's dabbling outside and things

497
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Speaker 4: maybe that aren't the healthiest in the idea, I just

498
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Speaker 4: don't think I want to see him come back. And

499
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Speaker 4: he and I instantly to make that comparison to not

500
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Speaker 4: just sit here and sound like abbloviating a hole and go,

501
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Speaker 4: oh wow, he looked bad to me, didn't he? No,

502
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Speaker 4: I went back and of course compared to as you know,

503
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Speaker 4: recent as just last year or two years or three

504
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Speaker 4: years or four years, and the differ, the difference is massive, Luke.

505
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Speaker 4: And even if he had gotten high right before that interview,

506
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Speaker 4: it was much more than that it was really much

507
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Speaker 4: more than that. It was problematic, And dude, none of

508
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Speaker 4: us would even be remotely to sit here and try

509
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Speaker 4: to bring up CTE and try to look at and

510
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Speaker 4: try to but look, there's a guy who's taking a

511
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Speaker 4: lot of damage. You fought at a very very very

512
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Speaker 4: young age, prolifically at a very high level. I just

513
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Speaker 4: don't see a lot of health there. So long term,

514
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Speaker 4: could he be a great business owner and live a

515
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Speaker 4: productive life, I'm sure yes. I just didn't come out

516
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Speaker 4: of that after actually sitting down and really watching it

517
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Speaker 4: feeling like he's in a great spot personally or ever,

518
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Speaker 4: feeling like I need him to fight again.

519
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Speaker 1: Okay, so I don't know what kind of spot is in,

520
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Speaker 1: but I certainly recognize this is what I said as

521
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Speaker 1: well in reacting to it. To me, it's like, I

522
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Speaker 1: don't know exactly what's up, but before we do anything,

523
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Speaker 1: there needs to be additional screenings to determine if he's

524
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Speaker 1: even in a.

525
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Speaker 2: Space to fight it would it be a healthy thing

526
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Speaker 2: for him?

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Speaker 1: I mean, fighting is never healthy, but under ordinary circumstances,

528
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Speaker 1: what if last thing on this will move along because

529
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Speaker 1: Jay is being awful?

530
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Speaker 2: What what if?

531
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Speaker 1: What if California or New Jersey did whatever they considered

532
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Speaker 1: to be their due diligence, two of the tougher commissions,

533
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Speaker 1: two of the better commissions in the country, and they

534
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Speaker 1: gave him a license.

535
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Speaker 2: Would that be sufficient for you to say.

536
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Speaker 4: You mean the same state California that gave Chuck Ladell

537
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Speaker 4: a license recently?

538
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Speaker 1: Okay, But Andy Foster and I talked about it. He

539
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Speaker 1: suspended him definitely afterwards.

540
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Speaker 3: Oh that's great, after he got sent to Hell.

541
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Speaker 1: Right, all right? But Andy, look, I don't think you

542
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Speaker 1: should have been given a license either. But Andy Foster's

543
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Speaker 1: point is when you denied these guys' licenses, and the

544
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Speaker 1: way that you do it for California, you're doing it

545
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Speaker 1: nationwide basically, and you're preventing them from making a living,

546
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Speaker 1: which I realized on some level as his job. But

547
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Speaker 1: he agonizes over that, so I can disagree with him

548
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Speaker 1: without thinking he's negligent.

549
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Speaker 4: Yes, I don't think Nick is at a despite everything

550
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Speaker 4: we just said, is at a massive scare level where

551
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Speaker 4: the idea of never fighting again is some sort of

552
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Speaker 4: like we need to stand on the street corner and

553
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Speaker 4: make sure he doesn't. I do think he needs to

554
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Speaker 4: find health and happiness first before jumping into any kind

555
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Speaker 4: of training camp, because I've heard, you know, people make

556
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Speaker 4: jokes about that interview and be like, man, I needed

557
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Speaker 4: a joint to be able to understand that.

558
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 2: No, you didn't need a joint, You needed final.

559
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Speaker 4: Cut pro to be able to realize that he would

560
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Speaker 4: start a question and then finish it forty six minutes later.

561
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Speaker 4: It was all over the place. That was not under

562
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Speaker 4: any circumstances. Oh that's the Dias's way, or that's the

563
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Speaker 4: way they talk. No, this was a scrambled mess. This

564
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 4: seemed to me anxiety or anything. This was a train wreck.

565
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Speaker 4: It was when you couldn't turn away from.

566
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Speaker 1: But this was to me a combination of diaz isms

567
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Speaker 1: with some accumulated baggage and weight of life weighing down

568
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Speaker 1: upon us. And it got to a weird spot in between.

569
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Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens next. Are you going to

570
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Speaker 1: wada or tis too very quickly? Because I am not

571
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Speaker 1: I am not a late scratch. So one of the

572
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Speaker 1: I guess it's the biggest boxing fight left on the

573
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Speaker 1: calendar if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 3: Well besides Anthony Joshua Andrew.

575
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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Which is in December, but it's in

576
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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, certainly on this side of the of the world.

577
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Speaker 1: Let's see, Deontay Wilder is going to put his WC

578
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Speaker 1: belt up for grabs when he takes on Luis Ortiz

579
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Speaker 1: for the second time. Brian Campbell, I know you already

580
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Speaker 1: know this, but for the audience's sake, they fought what

581
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Speaker 1: a couple of years or third twenty eighteen. So then

582
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Speaker 1: let's see Deontay had him rocked in the fifth, but

583
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Speaker 1: Dante dropped him in the fifth. No, and then he

584
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Speaker 1: got himself rocked in the seventh, and then polished him

585
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Speaker 1: off in the tenth.

586
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Speaker 2: All right. I went back and I watched some of

587
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Speaker 2: the highlights.

588
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Speaker 3: He very look like an instant classic of heavyweight time.

589
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Speaker 1: It was amazing, and he was that one. Deontay Wilder

590
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: was that one punch away. If Louis Ortiz had just connected,

591
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Speaker 1: it felt like he would have been in there for

592
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Speaker 1: the huge upset, but he didn't, and then of course

593
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Speaker 1: Wilder had his way in the end. Now, since then

594
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Speaker 1: Wylder beat Brazil and then Louis Ortiz has beaten three

595
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Speaker 1: relative no names. By the way, I went back and

596
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: watched one of them didn't look awesome, even though he

597
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Speaker 1: has two decisions in one stoppage since then. Okay, so

598
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: the question is what is really on the line here.

599
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: Now we know what the deal is with Tyson Fury

600
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Speaker 1: and Louis and Deontay Wader. They both had to take

601
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Speaker 1: two interim fights essentially before reconnecting, so we.

602
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Speaker 3: Know that I didn't have to.

603
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Speaker 1: But that was in a contract apparently, well, I guess

604
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Speaker 1: they exercised that clause, all right, so they did.

605
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Speaker 2: This is the second of the two four mister Wilder.

606
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Speaker 1: Beyond that, though, Brian, I got to tell you how

607
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Speaker 1: I'm coming at this, because you're somebody who's a little

608
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Speaker 1: more embedded in boxing certainly than I am. On the

609
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Speaker 1: one hand, I read people and I went and I

610
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Speaker 1: watched one of Ortiz's fires. I walked away not impressed

611
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Speaker 1: at all. I'm like, dude, I think Deanta is gonna

612
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: blow through this guy the second time, right, And then

613
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: you think about it, You're like, well, wait a second.

614
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: Otto Valen, who fought Tyson Fury was not even ranked

615
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Speaker 1: at all. That dude was hand picked. Now I know

616
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Speaker 1: in the end he ended up being much more competitive

617
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Speaker 1: than they.

618
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Speaker 3: Thought he was.

619
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Speaker 4: Largely unproven, rather than like a like Tom Schwartz who

620
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Speaker 4: fought Fury before that kind of a joke.

621
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Speaker 1: But he was unheralded certainly one way or the other.

622
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Speaker 1: We kind of know what we're getting with Ortiz. In fact,

623
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Speaker 1: one of the docks against him is that he's a

624
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Speaker 1: little bit long in the truth, a little bit older mane.

625
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: We might still have some power, but doesn't have the speed,

626
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: doesn't have the movement anymore that maybe he once did

627
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Speaker 1: for a bigger Cuban boxer.

628
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Speaker 3: The power is the last thing to go. He's got

629
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Speaker 3: the power.

630
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Speaker 2: He's got the power. But here's what I would say.

631
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Speaker 1: I can't decide if this is some kind of easy

632
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 1: setup rematch for Deonte or what some of the other

633
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: folks are saying, which is Vauleen wasn't supposed to do

634
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: anything and he did, and unlike Valeen, Ortiz is ranked

635
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 1: what six than the division depending on where you look,

636
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: certainly a top ten heavyweight.

637
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: So which one is it? Brian Campbell?

638
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Speaker 1: Is this the challenge that Deontay Wilder is overestimating or

639
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: is he knows exactly what he's crazy?

640
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 4: As a boxing fan, we go through these weird sort

641
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 4: of hamster wheel machinations from when a fight is announced

642
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 4: until fight night, and when this one was announced because

643
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Speaker 4: we want the Fury rematch so bad for Wilder, it

644
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 4: was sort of like, okay, you know, the first one

645
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 4: was really exciting, this will be fun, but why are

646
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Speaker 4: we doing this and is there some unprecedented elements to this?

647
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Speaker 2: Deontay Wilder's taking this fight.

648
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 4: Three months before the schedule the Fury rematch in February,

649
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Speaker 4: So forget the idea of being able to lose it

650
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,239
Speaker 4: all if he should lose this rematch against Ortiz, how

651
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: about the idea of an injured hand, any sort of

652
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 4: thing that comes up in play three months before. Yet,

653
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Speaker 4: because Wilder's the younger fighter with the bigger weapon overall,

654
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Speaker 4: and he's sort of rising where Ortiz is forty, we

655
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Speaker 4: feel like we've seen the best of him. And some

656
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Speaker 4: people try to make that argument, like they do about

657
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Speaker 4: a lot of Cuban athletes, that he's really forty eight

658
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Speaker 4: or fifty eight or sixty eight. You see a lot

659
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Speaker 4: of those jokes going around the idea is that okay?

660
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 4: For Even though that first one was funny, competitive, in

661
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 4: the end, Wilder's the younger, prime guy in most historic rematches,

662
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 4: the younger prime guy comes back and gets an earlier knockout,

663
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 4: and by the way, that could be in play, whether

664
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 4: it's hell for Deontay Wilder early or he walks through him.

665
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: He has that kind of one punch power.

666
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 4: So in the recent weeks I've really seen sort of this,

667
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 4: like the boxing public going all right, we know how

668
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 4: this is gonna happen. It'll be fun, but this will

669
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 4: be fine. I think we got to wake up to this. Okay,

670
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 4: Lewis Ortiz heavyweights age later. He is the best combination

671
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 4: in the entire division of top end power and that

672
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 4: Cuban amateur background of being able to actually box. In fact,

673
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 4: you go back and watch the first four and a

674
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 4: half rounds of the first fight against Wilder, and every

675
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 4: time Wilder throughout that jab Ortiz had the quicker counter.

676
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 2: The guy can box. It's also boring the first five

677
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: rounds right because Ortiz controlled it completely.

678
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 4: And you can make the case, and it's not a

679
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: hipster argument that Ortiz is the second most dangerous heavyweight

680
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 4: alive right now, maybe.

681
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: Not second best.

682
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 4: You've got Fury, You've got we don't know how good really,

683
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 4: Andy Ruiz is You can say what you want whether

684
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 4: Aj was a fluke, but in terms of danger, a

685
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 4: guy who can put his punches together and has fight

686
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 4: ending power in both hands, Louis Ortiz is is an

687
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 4: insane uh. Nobody's stepping stone, a tough out under any circumstance.

688
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 4: So I think too many people looked at this matchup

689
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 4: sort of come to a certain conclusion. You got to

690
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 4: realize Deontay Wilder went through hell the first time around

691
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 4: against Lewis Ortiz and Luke.

692
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 3: Ultimately, what was the difference in that first fight?

693
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Speaker 4: You could say, Okay, wild there's got a you know,

694
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 4: legendary power, and he was able to outlast him and

695
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 4: put him down. The power played a part, but it

696
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 4: was the conditioning difference in the end, and wild there's

697
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 4: done this too many opponents, by the way, lets them

698
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 4: have success early. He's the fresher fighter, they fade, he

699
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 4: gets him out of there. The difference in that fight

700
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: was that Louis Ortiz kind of shot his load, if

701
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 4: you will. All the people don't like to use that statement.

702
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 4: In round seven emptied the tank. Thought he had him

703
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 4: out of there. Never recovered. Conditioning wise, I've talked to

704
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 4: Louis Ortiz I hosted the PBC Face to Face on Fox,

705
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 4: spend some time with him off camera, and I've sort

706
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 4: of said, look, you know, by the way, I'm also

707
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 4: on a PBC countdown a matchup on Fox. Turned that

708
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 4: out and look, he said, Look, conditioning was the mistake

709
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: that I made the first time round. I didn't realize

710
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 4: what I would need for twelve round championship Cardio against

711
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: somebody like this, I have fixed that. He's gone in,

712
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 4: brought in the controversial Victor Conte of snack when the

713
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 4: false he is caught up and ripped and he's ready.

714
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: So if you're asking a fighter to improve in a

715
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 4: category like power or boxing ability in a span of

716
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 4: a year and a half, it's probably not going to happen. Right,

717
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 4: we're asking this guy, I know he's forty years old,

718
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 4: but we're asking this guy to improve on really what

719
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: was the difference.

720
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Speaker 2: In that fight Cardio. He's done that.

721
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's going to win because of that,

722
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 4: but the idea that he could fix the one fatal

723
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 4: flaw that he had in that fight, the fact that

724
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 4: he gassed out late, and if you go back and

725
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 4: watch round ten when Wilder got him out of there.

726
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: It wasn't so much that he hit him and he

727
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 4: went down and was never the same. It was really

728
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 4: the condition and he's wore down, he got weakend, he

729
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 4: got dropped a couple of times.

730
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Speaker 3: Referee jumps in without account at the end.

731
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, if this guy comes in conditioned and

732
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 4: he's able to control the fight on his terms like

733
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 4: he did for the first four and a half rounds

734
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Speaker 4: the first time round, this is as tough a night

735
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: as Deontay Wilder can have did. I think Tyson Fury

736
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 4: beat him one hundred percent. Tyson Fury is a boxer, though,

737
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 4: and not a puncher or teas can do both. I'm

738
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: not coming at you from the salesmanship side of raising

739
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: up Fox's pay per view numbers. I'm saying this is

740
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 4: as you can say, dare to be great to move.

741
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: For Wilder to take this fight three months before a

742
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: defining rematch against Fury, it's also kind of reckless. You

743
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 4: have to have to ask yourself, why are we doing this?

744
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 4: Nobody wants to fight or tease. He's outside of Brian Jennings.

745
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 4: He's felt one big name, Deontay Wilder. Nobody wants to

746
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 4: fight him for a reason, and now Wylder's giving him

747
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 4: a second chance. That sets the foundation, Luke for what

748
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 4: should be some insane theater on Saturday night. If you're

749
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: telling me, I can see the future in Wilder wins

750
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 4: by knockout. He may end up getting there no matter what.

751
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 4: But this, this has the potential to be the toughest

752
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 4: fight of his career. What's the best outcome for boxing fans?

753
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: My hunch is in thinking about like what by that

754
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be real about it. Luis Ortiz upsetting

755
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: Deontay Wilder would be an interesting note about the fight,

756
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: which is to say, it'd be the same year where

757
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: John was upset by Ruiz, where Valeen nearly upset Tyson

758
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: Fury certainly could have if a referee had made a

759
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: different decision about the cut. And then let's say a

760
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: Wilder lost, that would be this note where the boxing

761
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: giants either fell or were humiliated or at least brought

762
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: down to earth a little bit, And that has some

763
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: interesting narrative. But honestly, the best thing for boxing fans

764
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: I feel like is you want Deontay Wilder to not

765
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: get too messed up and to win by flashing that

766
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: impressive trademark hulk smash ko power. He did it in

767
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: the last fight against Dean excuse me against that in

768
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: Brazil and Tyson Fury and Louis Ortiz. He constantly has

769
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: an ability to show it to me by hook or

770
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: by crook. Somehow flash that turned that into a highlight.

771
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: Here's what these guys did since then, it builds some drama.

772
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: Do you agree or disagree? Or do you want him

773
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: to match the struggles that Tyson Fury had, So then

774
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: you could say both of these guys they really kind

775
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: of played a little bit loose with it here. They

776
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: ended up here together. A lot of questions surround this matchup.

777
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: The best thing for boxing always is to have the

778
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 4: best face, the best The best thing for Saturday Night

779
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 4: is to have an entertaining fight in which both kind

780
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: of get under some duress. But yes, Deontay Wilder is

781
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: the unbeaten, biggest sort of launch rocket launching brand in

782
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: the heavyweight division.

783
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: If things go the way it.

784
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 4: Should for the business, it would be while they're getting

785
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 4: an exciting win, not compromising that Fury rematch, and I

786
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 4: think you can have that same conversation. We probably will

787
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: in a few weeks about that December seventh Joshua Ruiz rematch,

788
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 4: because the way things work business wise, should Andy Ruiz

789
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: Junior pull a second straight upset, He's a PBC fighter,

790
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 4: not a the Zone fighter, right, he was a late

791
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 4: replacement who sort of took an opportunity and did that.

792
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: He could have a chance to come back.

793
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 4: Should Deontay Wilder win against Louis Ortiz and get all

794
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 4: four belts for the first time in heavyweight history, we've

795
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 4: had all three belt champions, but in the four belt era,

796
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 4: we've never had somebody own all four.

797
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: That's what we want.

798
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 4: We want clarity and the fact that Tyson Fury is

799
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: still lingering with a lineal guy who beat the guy crowd.

800
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: It's a fun time to be alive in heavyweight.

801
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 4: So it wouldn't be the end of the world the

802
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 4: four tees wins because guess what, you get a trilogy

803
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 4: out of it.

804
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: So, but it would certainly once again turn it upside down.

805
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: Now, the other part to this whole thing is not

806
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: about Luis Ortez Ord'ante Wilder. It's about MMA fighter versus

807
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: boxer Brian Campbell, which brings us to our next topic.

808
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: This is a thing that I am just I cannot

809
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: believe is happening. But it's happening. If you read boxing websites,

810
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: a little bit less so on the boxing side, although

811
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: some of it certainly on the MMA side. There are

812
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: a number of stories out now floating about Canelo versus

813
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: Jorge or Tyson Fury versus steep A, or they'll bring

814
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: this up a little later to close the shields. That's

815
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 1: a little bit different, I think, And I'm sure I'm

816
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: missing some other ones here that have been brought up

817
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: to me. Oh, I remember this one. Remember the old

818
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: Habi versus Mayweather one that got flown.

819
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: Under Lloyd said he's gonna come back and do it

820
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: in the octagon.

821
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing about this. I wonder what your

822
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: opinion is about all of these. I'm gonna go first

823
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: if I may. I want to be very clear about this.

824
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: There might be the occasional situation where one fighter going

825
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: over to the other side could be worth taking seriously.

826
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 4: Like like this one right here is a not that one,

827
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 4: but may Mac is a once in a lifetime phenomenon.

828
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: Even that wasn't real that had other appeal, like let's

829
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: just do strange ship and make money doing it.

830
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the idea of having two in the same

831
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: sport at that level of stardom to cross pass.

832
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: Okay, But in terms of a fight, people who thought

833
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: it was competitive got finessed. Let's just be real about that. Okay,

834
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: Now there?

835
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: Did he did he ever? Actually? Did he actually ever

836
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: picked Connor? I actually think yes he did. No, I

837
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: don't think he did. I think he did.

838
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 4: Can we call can we phone a friend and get

839
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: Brendon shop in here and make him a stand up first.

840
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: Injury is saying that Brendan picked Connor, in which case

841
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: I have to have a talk with Brendan about that.

842
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: All right, but here, let me, let me, let me

843
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: make a point, if I may. I can scarcely think

844
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: of any other type of story in media right now

845
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: that shows how utterly bankrupt and frankly broken the news

846
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: gathering system is other than this one. Because while I

847
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: can envision a situation, for example, the Ukrainian donk who

848
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: is the matrix what's his name? My mind is chen,

849
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: let me Chako actually has a combat sports background. He

850
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: did wrestling as a kid. I believe some sambo as well,

851
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: some judo. If he wanted to start off on a

852
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: low level fight just to like, I don't know, for

853
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: some reason he couldn't get a boxing fight, or he

854
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: just wanted to spread his combative wings. I would take

855
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,239
Speaker 1: that seriously depending on the circumstances, and I understand if

856
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: you're Jorge Masvidoal, for example, he might actually believe that

857
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: he really could be competitive. It is to me possible

858
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: that these guys who prop themselves up in their minds

859
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: and want to take on the biggest challenges, they can

860
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: actually build a bridge too far in their mind.

861
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: So I take that kind of seriously as well.

862
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: But everybody else who is promoting this nonsense, they are

863
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: taking the audience for suckers, because only a sucker would

864
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: ever look at a situation like Ice and Fury fighting

865
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: Steepe and think in either direction that that is real.

866
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: Only a sucker would think that Canelo really, at thirty

867
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: five million, would want to go and fight a UFC

868
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: fighter who he probably doesn't know. It's not something he's

869
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: thinking about it. It's not on his radar in any capacity.

870
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: It's not where boxing fans are looking for. I've been

871
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: looking to see what boxing fans say should be next

872
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: for him across three different divisions. I never see any

873
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: of the names for UFC fighters coming up. It is

874
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: a clear indication that the news model in MMA and

875
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: in boxing to a degree is broken, and that, like P. T.

876
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: Barnum says, dude, there is a sucker born every minute

877
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: because those stories keep getting close.

878
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 3: Guess who set the modern blueprint on how to do this.

879
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 4: It was Floyd Mayweather, and then Connor McGregor kind of

880
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 4: took that in ram within what Tyson Fury is doing

881
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 4: right now, which means putting out these headlines of saying

882
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 4: Connor McGregor said he'll train me, so I certainly would

883
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 4: love to fight Steep Bay and Steepe even taking it

884
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 4: and going public and saying I don't even want DC

885
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: right now, I want this boxing match with Fury, in

886
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: Fury going the extra level of putting out that train

887
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 4: video with there until it's so blatantly from.

888
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: That Floyd playbook.

889
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 4: If Floyd was right in the one year build to

890
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: that Maymac fight, Floyd was a front page headline on

891
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: every MMA side every other week because he was constantly

892
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 4: saying I'm the biggest star in UFC, even though I've

893
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: never stepped foot in there, and that's exactly what Tyson

894
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 4: Fury is doing to the letter. Remember when Floyd was

895
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 4: the main event, or not the main event book for

896
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 4: WrestleMania twenty four, had that quick boxing retirement, spread his

897
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: seed across WWE than dancing with the stars to become

898
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: a bigger crossover star. Exactly what Tyson Fury is doing

899
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 4: just recently with the WWE, and seems to be doing

900
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 4: in voice now with these UFC headlines. But yeah, in

901
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 4: these situations, it's not realistic. It shouldn't be realistic. I

902
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 4: don't want it in my life. Get it away from me.

903
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 4: Stop editors, stop green lighting these stories. People stop retweeting it.

904
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 4: Just stop, okay, stop. Under no circumstances, the boxing heavyweight

905
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: champion of the world with no fighting background other than

906
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 4: letting his hands go is going to go over and

907
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 4: take a UFC fight. And I get the idea because

908
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 4: Maymack happened that somebody like Stepe would be like, yeah,

909
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 4: of course I'd go over and do that.

910
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: Man, I'd take that payday.

911
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: But maymac has not had a long line of repetitors

912
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 4: like we thought they might write becauseitors, because it's they

913
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 4: were such a perfect storm to get people to care

914
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 4: that much. I'm not saying people wouldn't care about Stepe

915
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 4: and Tyson Fury in a boxing match, but even to

916
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 4: get UFC, even agat Dana to get on Connor's side

917
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 4: was like such a a one off perfect storm. So

918
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 4: much money in there that everybody's got to just sleep

919
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 4: together and make it happen.

920
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: And also the other part about it is two factors

921
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: about Maymac that make it a little bit of unusual.

922
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: One was the extraordinary amount of money even by Floyd

923
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: Mayweather stands. I mean, that was his biggest pay day ever,

924
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: I believe, right that was Floyd who had a forty

925
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: million guaranteed against Canelo Floyd, right, So that was a

926
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: lot of money there that is not going to be

927
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: repeated if there was a Tyson Fjorty versus Steep a

928
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: fight number one, number two. You know, look, you can

929
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: say what you want about that fight. It wasn't competitive

930
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: in the sense that, like, I don't think Floyd was

931
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: carrying conn but I don't think he was trying.

932
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: All that hard.

933
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 4: People in Floyd's camp who I'm close with said he

934
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 4: did not train for that like at all.

935
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: Like he got abs and that was.

936
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: It, and he knew exactly what was gonna happen, right,

937
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: and he walked Connor down, marched him down, and then

938
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: stopped him with strikes. Okay, So the reality is though,

939
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: that Connor had that early three round push that folks

940
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: were like, wow, he's really doing it. So in other words,

941
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: everyone made a ton of money and both sides kind

942
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: of could declare moral victory or victory or moral victory

943
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: in a way where like, dude, let me tell you something,

944
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: if somebody goes from UFC and tries to box Tyson Fury,

945
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not much of a puncher.

946
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: He would knock them the fuck out.

947
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 4: And you gotta understand the flot the framing of what

948
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 4: maymac work made it work so well outside of just

949
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 4: the money and the star value, which again is such

950
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 4: a perfect comment to hit each other, the fact that

951
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 4: Floyd was old and out of the game for two

952
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 4: years and that Connor was doing such it was on

953
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: such an absurd run of calling a shot and just

954
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 4: doing things that we didn't think were possible. Knocking Josie

955
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 4: aled out with the first punch, learning Eddilvas into this

956
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 4: easy brawl and finishing him in a new weight class

957
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 4: that it was easy to do the public into believing.

958
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: Even us hardcore boxing.

959
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: Journalists got to a certain point we had to check

960
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 4: ourselves and go, wait, he shouldn't be competitive in this

961
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 4: at all, But mystic Matt keeps.

962
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: Doing these freaking things that are just impossible.

963
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 1: If anybody, if anybody could.

964
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 4: Have an then you go, wait, what am I talking about?

965
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 4: You don't have that in any other fight. Plus, you

966
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 4: can really only fool the public on that level once,

967
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 4: and they did it, and it was perfect and executed perfect,

968
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 4: And even me covering the fight live when Connor had

969
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 4: this success time, by the way, when Connor had success

970
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 4: in the first four rounds, I'm even going, Oh my god,

971
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 4: is Floyd washed?

972
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: Like? Is it over? Like?

973
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: Is Connor gonna have? Like everything about that execution was perfect.

974
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 4: You're not gonna get that again under any circumstance. So

975
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 4: outside of somebody like Colorissa Shields, the unbeaten women's boxing

976
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 4: champion of many different weight classes, her saying after this

977
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: next fight on showtime, the rematch or sorry, they're gonna

978
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 4: run it back with Ivanna, you know, she says, Look,

979
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna cross over and get into MMA training someone

980
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 4: like that.

981
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: You can believe she's so young. More money in MMA.

982
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: Yes, the steep A's and the Joges of the world

983
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: realize the big money is in boxing because the Canal

984
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: is making thirty five million over on his own to fight,

985
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, to wag classes up or whatever. But in

986
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: the case of Clorisa Shields, it's like, it's not just

987
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: that there's bigger paydays. No, really, there's ample opportunity and

988
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: there's not much of a barrier to entry, whereas for

989
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: someone like Jorge and Steve Bay there's a major barrier

990
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: to entry, including but not limited to Dana White's John Hans.

991
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 4: And I don't think this is different from the whole

992
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 4: YouTube debate that we had last week of you know,

993
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 4: Logan Paul and KSI that rematch and de Zone may

994
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 4: have set their own record for subs and all that,

995
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 4: but how many more times are people going to care

996
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 4: when you're going down the food chain of YouTube stars

997
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: now and it's Jake Paul next time, and it's Joe

998
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 4: Blow the next time. We're going to get to a

999
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 4: certain point we're going to go like, Okay, this isn't boxing,

1000
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: I don't care anymore. Can we stop this? And I

1001
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 4: hope that moment is now. But I don't run networks. Yeah,

1002
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 4: I just speak bad.

1003
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: Just pay attention to who in media keeps promoting this

1004
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: and realize they're doing that because they take you as

1005
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: the audience for suckers.

1006
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: Now that brings us to our last and final points.

1007
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: Well, that's the message you've been telling Razor companies for years.

1008
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: That's right, get bent, losers. Okay, it brings the story.

1009
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: Last week we had talked about Joan Bohovich at the

1010
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: top of the show, Brian Campbell. We now move on

1011
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: to the last one.

1012
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: Now.

1013
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: No, no announcement has been made, nothing appears to be

1014
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: imminent other than all indications are at the moment we

1015
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: speak right now, the next challenger for the USC light

1016
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: heavyweight title, currently claimed by John Jones will be Dominic Rayes.

1017
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: Dominic Rayes of course.

1018
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: At UFC Boston, Brian Campbell had the frankly kind of

1019
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: easy win. I hate to put in those terms, but

1020
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of real. Over Chris Widman, first round stoppage,

1021
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: the whole bit. I actually talked to him and I

1022
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: had a UC two forty four prefi party. He seemed

1023
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: to be all in it. He had ten ynglings. He

1024
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: loves yinglings apparently.

1025
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, he was tuned up in black and tans

1026
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 3: with the logger.

1027
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it was at black and tan. It was

1028
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 2: just the normal.

1029
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: If I've got to go down the yingling road, you've

1030
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 3: got to go black and tan.

1031
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Apparently what he said was you can't get yngling on

1032
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 1: the West coast. I'm not sure if that's true.

1033
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 4: No, when I grew up in Connecticut, you couldn't get

1034
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 4: it outside of Pennsylvania as net work.

1035
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: So when someone would be going out of state, oh Meg,

1036
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 3: you get me in Rome.

1037
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 1: He had some yinglings in any event, but he said,

1038
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: like you know, there was some things cooking, but he

1039
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: couldn't tell me a whole lot. All right, let's assume

1040
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: for the second, but there they are going to make

1041
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: Dominic Reyes at the next fight. Maybe let's say, do

1042
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: you have se two forty six or two forty seven

1043
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: something like that.

1044
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: One Is this the right call? Two? How much of

1045
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: a chance do you give him? Absolutely the right call?

1046
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 4: At this point, especially Jan Blhovich, just really put it,

1047
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 4: put it right in your face. Johnny Walker just lost.

1048
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 4: Uh Reyes has more sort of money on this side

1049
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 4: of the table than Corey Anderson at the moment. Here's

1050
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: the guy that you want to be good, that you've

1051
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 4: been pushing. They put him in the Toyota Tires commercial, Luke,

1052
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 4: that says something.

1053
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, no speaking role though.

1054
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 4: Does he have a chance on paper, yes, one hundred percent.

1055
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 4: He's a volume striker, he's big. We haven't really seen

1056
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 4: his ceiling if we can forget this somewhat lifeless performance

1057
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 4: against Vulcan. Not lifeless, but I didn't think he deserved

1058
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 4: the decision. Wasn't the best of him. But really, to

1059
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 4: answer this question, Luke, You've got to ask yourself, what

1060
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 4: version of John Jones are we going to see? What

1061
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: we've seen of John Jones return from the USADA suspension,

1062
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 4: is that this is nineteen ninety three Michael Jordan. He's

1063
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: adding a fadeaway jump shot because he realized I can't

1064
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 4: drive the hole and dunk on everybody for the rest

1065
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 4: of my life.

1066
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: I think against Thiago Santos.

1067
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 4: It was that to a negative degree, John was passive

1068
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 4: in terms of going for takedowns consistently to control that fight.

1069
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 4: Wanted to play more of the checks and balances x's

1070
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: and o's counter game.

1071
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: I mean good God Tago sent us to have legs,

1072
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: and he.

1073
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 4: Somehow fought through and nearly got a backdoor victory there.

1074
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 4: If John wants to stay down that road and not

1075
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,479
Speaker 4: lean on his wrestling, and by the way, Don Reyes

1076
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 4: would have to give him a reason not to, would

1077
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: have to strike early and set that discipline level, and

1078
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: John just tries to straight up outpoint him in this.

1079
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 4: I'm efficient, I'm growing into my Mayweather years. I believe

1080
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 4: in myself a little bit too much like I thought

1081
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 4: he did against Santos, almost to his downfall. Then Reyes

1082
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 4: has a chance, but ability versus ability. If we're going

1083
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: to get the very best of John Jones, the old

1084
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: John Jones, the attacking one, the one who sees openings

1085
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: and closes those openings, it should be a fight that

1086
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 4: Don Reis loses in the end because he's not on

1087
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 4: the John Jones.

1088
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: Level, right.

1089
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing, It's like the two problems

1090
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: actually intersect. So to answer the questions that I was asking,

1091
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: that's the right call. Yes, and it could be competitive

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00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: in the end. Who really knows, but there could be

1093
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: reasons to think that. Here's my point, Brian Dominic, Reyes

1094
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: is twelve and zero, he's only had three decisions. All

1095
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: the rest, all the other nine fights, they're all stoppages.

1096
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: You have an undefeated contender, I think, right at twenty

1097
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: nine thirty years old, that only makes him the most

1098
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: valuable person to put in that role.

1099
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: Are we really telling his story?

1100
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: One of the things that came out to me that

1101
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: was sort of obvious when Horney Maswuel ascended to the

1102
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: level that he has in this game was he'd been

1103
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: around this long, but no one had really told us

1104
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: exactly who he was. Now, he was more of a

1105
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: known commodity. He'd been in the trenches for so long.

1106
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: He had a little bit more of a story to tell.

1107
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: Reyes Is. I mean, he is pro debut in twenty fourteen,

1108
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 1: so he's a little bit wet behind the ears, relatively speaking.

1109
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: But the point being is there's more to understand about

1110
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: this guy. There is more to learn, there's more to

1111
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: appreciate about him. He is the younger one. He does

1112
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: come in with a modern game. He seems utterly unafraid

1113
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: of John and John you mentioned against the Tiago Santo's fight,

1114
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: he was maybe a little bit too much feeling himself

1115
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: or something. I talked to his coaches. He was actually

1116
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: a little bit risk averse. He was worried about some

1117
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: of the linear attacks that Santos.

1118
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: Was so widely. This was getting close, so John was

1119
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: kind of reserved there.

1120
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: Dominic Reyes is going to come in, in all likelihood,

1121
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: not with the exact same game plan, but with the

1122
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: exact same fire, the exact same willingness to win. This

1123
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: is why what Anderson Silva and Demetrius Johnson and now

1124
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: John Jones, what he's doing is so difficult. Rather than

1125
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: jumping weight classes, letting somebody come up who's an undefeated contender,

1126
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: who was unheralded, who has all of the courage in

1127
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: the world, is not afraid of you, is not afraid

1128
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: of your resume, even as you age, as there's more

1129
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: tape on you to learn and study from.

1130
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: Dude, that's a dangerous difficult thing to do.

1131
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: So I give John credit for taking this fight if

1132
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: in fact it gets announced. And secondly, like is there

1133
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: optimism for for Dominic? Look, nothing jumps off the page

1134
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: exactly except to say his speed, his willingness to exchange.

1135
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: I think he's got good counterpunching, he's got a good

1136
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: gas tank at his.

1137
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: Best, he's almost like a light heavyweight Tony fergus Every

1138
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 4: time I say that.

1139
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 1: Little he doesn't have quite the same in your face

1140
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: violent tenacity.

1141
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: And the angles and the variety.

1142
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: But he's got and also Tony, he does have an engine.

1143
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: And Tony has all these weird attacks from guard and

1144
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: he can you know, he has the dars chokes, and

1145
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: it's more like in the stand up, is he a

1146
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: little bit like Tony Ferguson? I suppose a little bit

1147
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: mean even then, though I'd say he's a little bit cleaner. Look,

1148
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: did I think there was a much of a case

1149
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 1: for Anthony Smith?

1150
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: Not in the way that the fight played out.

1151
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: Did I think there was much of a case for

1152
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: Jiago Santos, Not in the way that the fight played out.

1153
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: But they did play out this way and Dominic rayes

1154
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say about Vulcan news deimr fight

1155
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: and I realized it's controversial, still has not tasted defeat.

1156
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, though, Vulcan took him down at will,

1157
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: which was a shocker to everybody. If John just goes,

1158
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 4: I'm John Jones, Let's take this mf or down right.

1159
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: But he didn't take Smith or Santos down at will.

1160
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: That's the whole point. I need him to be John

1161
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: Jones in that risk a version. Some of those willingness

1162
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: to launch it to the attacks reduced him a little bit.

1163
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: If you play that kind of a game against Dominic Reyes,

1164
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that that is optimal for it still

1165
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: might get the job.

1166
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: Done, but again we're looking is it competitive? Yeah, it

1167
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: might be competitive?

1168
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: And again, who's better than the undefeated candidate who just

1169
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: previously stopped the middleweight champion.

1170
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: Who's better than this five dollars UFC two hundred bruck listener?

1171
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 2: Why are you wearing a five dollars shirt? I am

1172
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: not supprised. Yeah, I'm wanting your shirt about my dog too.

1173
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: How about that? All right, let's get to it now.

1174
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: It is time for I believe your questions.

1175
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: If I'm mistaken, this is now the time we do

1176
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: dms from donks.

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00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: Here.

1178
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: We are make sure I get to my dms. You

1179
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: can always do this. We put up I used to

1180
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: post a photo. Now it just goes right to our

1181
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: Instagram account, so you can go to Morning Combat on Instagram.

1182
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: By the way, it's doing pretty well.

1183
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: Every time I check it has got a lot more

1184
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: more than following, So please follow us there. Leave a

1185
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: question there and we'll get to them. Okay, this comes

1186
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: to us first from Sledge seventy four. If Tony beats

1187
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: Habib in absolute dominant fashion, does he get an immediate rematch?

1188
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: I know he has undefeated Brian Campbell, but has only

1189
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: defended his belt twice.

1190
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: Does this really call for an immediate rematch?

1191
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 4: I think a dominant fashion would would be less likely

1192
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 4: for a rematch. I think if they put on the

1193
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 4: type of classic that we thought could happen for several

1194
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: times in this fifth meeting and back.

1195
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: And forth, you see the strengths of both of their styles.

1196
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 4: But Tony got the win, I think that'd be natural

1197
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 4: to run it back and have a rematch.

1198
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: I think here's the thing. It's the same with John Jones.

1199
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: I know he's have to lost to Matt Hamill, but

1200
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: he's really never been beaten in that sense. The first

1201
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: person to beat him cleanly is gonna have to do

1202
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: it twice first.

1203
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 4: Even if it's a dominant especially you know, short of

1204
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 4: a of a first round kind of flucish knockout, if

1205
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 4: it's a dominant beat.

1206
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: Down, they're gonna co out. They're gonna say I was sick,

1207
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: I didn't take it seriously. Blah blah blah blah blah. Yes, yes,

1208
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: of course, think about it when it happened too.

1209
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 3: We're telling me, I'm gonna interrupt you.

1210
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: You're telling me because we attack this from the marketing

1211
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 4: side of lot, because that's how UFC does. They get

1212
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 4: in that damn war room in the back of Dana's

1213
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 4: office with the machine gun and the cocaine and the handle,

1214
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 4: and they got everything on the board. You're telling me,

1215
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: if Tony wins this again not a great fight, they're

1216
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 4: gonna run it back.

1217
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: But Tony wins it dominantly. They're not like Connor McGregor

1218
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: line one.

1219
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: Did you not see what they did for Cody Garb

1220
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: or Yo Wanni and Jcheck or Anderson Silva or I

1221
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: can just go on down the list.

1222
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 2: Of course they're going to run it back. The first person, TJ.

1223
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 3: Dillshaw didn't get the immediate rematch. Demitrius Johnson didn't get

1224
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 3: the ameter. He got traded.

1225
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: His ask got traded. He got traded. That's a little

1226
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: bit different.

1227
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: But the Czyborg didn't get the meedate rematch.

1228
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: There's something that have it. In fact, neither did Holly Holm.

1229
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: But that's because Ronda took time off. You mean, if

1230
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: Ronda didn't clamor for it, she wouldn't have gotten it. Really,

1231
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: they wouldn't even show highlights while Ronda was in the

1232
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: UFC of her getting head kicked to that event. Because

1233
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: they were so sensitive to her needs. She absolutely would

1234
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: have did. It's just that Holly went on about our

1235
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: day while Ronda took a lot of time off. Here's

1236
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say. If okay, here's what I'll say,

1237
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: I'll give a slight asterisk to it. Robert Whitaker did

1238
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: not ask for a rematch against Israel a soignia, which

1239
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: I was very happy to see. However, if Habib says

1240
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: I want a rematch, I don't see any way they

1241
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: don't give it to him. I don't say anyway they

1242
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: don't give it to him. You really, you're asking me

1243
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: in my favorite Let's let's say I'm not in favor

1244
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: of no.

1245
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: Just put on your business hat.

1246
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 4: In the meantime, Connor comes back in January and stops

1247
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 4: and looks good enough. Right, Connor is one billion percent

1248
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 4: getting that title shot against Tony with the idea that

1249
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: if he could win that, then they'd bring me back.

1250
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: The Connor part.

1251
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: The Connor part is different because he's the most famous fighter,

1252
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: so that could change the equation. But like absent his

1253
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: absent his marketing poll, would they do that? I think

1254
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: they would give. I absolutely think that the first person

1255
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: to beat even has to do it twice.

1256
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 2: I just feel that way. Jason, besides please and Tiba

1257
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: by the way, man.

1258
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Jason dessu Cato says, am I the only

1259
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: one who doesn't want to see OG's like Nick come

1260
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: back and get battered. It's good for a name, But

1261
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: there has to be an alternative. Have you ever see

1262
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: the UFC hosting exhibition matches or grappling matches maybe.

1263
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 3: During I got this, Luke, you can not watch five pass.

1264
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: They have grappling matches all the day.

1265
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: Here's my alternative. Tell me if you like this.

1266
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 4: Remember Vitor bel for for years has been trying to

1267
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 4: get the idea of like a senior fight league out there,

1268
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 4: you know, for older fighters. To a degree, Belatour, although

1269
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 4: they don't do it as much anymore, had become that right.

1270
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 4: I mean, they still have a lot of old guys

1271
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 4: out there, but for that little short period we of

1272
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 4: like Shamrock Great three, We had some of these so's,

1273
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 4: We had some of these almost freak level fights with names.

1274
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 4: Can we just create a set of rules for seniors

1275
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 4: that basically means a one round fight, A one round

1276
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 4: you want to go seven minutes, A one round seven

1277
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 4: minute fight, because look.

1278
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: These are about a one round like Pride rules, like

1279
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: ten minutes a ten.

1280
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: Might be a little bit too long.

1281
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 4: How about a one round Legends rules seven minute fight,

1282
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 4: because here's the deal. You don't want him to take

1283
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 4: sustained damage over a long period of time. Number two,

1284
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 4: do you remember Tito Ortiz versus Stephan Bonder under the

1285
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 4: Bell Tour banner that three rounds snowfl I'm waiting for

1286
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 4: that mask guy justin whatever his name is, to jump

1287
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 4: in the cake. That was just sometimes these old guy

1288
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 4: fights can just be bad. I mean even even Chail

1289
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 4: versus vonder Lay, which had pockets of action, was sort

1290
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 4: of that like, oh, this is gonna go on all

1291
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 4: that time. If you're telling me we can find some

1292
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 4: type of middle ground for an aging name that just

1293
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 4: wants to go out there and bang and get a

1294
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 4: paycheck and have fun. Not the healthiest for their brain

1295
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 4: in the long term, But I think there's ways you

1296
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 4: can put a little padding around that with a quicker

1297
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 4: fight that just got there and let your hands go.

1298
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 4: You don't have to worry, abot guess and ly just go

1299
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 4: out there. It's gonna remind people of early UFC. Look,

1300
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 4: how often do you when wife and daughter are in

1301
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 4: bed and you got a couple of cold ones, you know,

1302
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 4: and you got onto the basement, you put on fight

1303
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 4: pass and you're just like, man, I'm just gonna watch

1304
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 4: YOUFC four from start to finish. You get that raw

1305
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 4: feeling again. I'm seeing fat guy against guy with a

1306
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 4: gee and just they're all with the fights all last

1307
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 4: two and a half minutes and it's all brutal, and it's, uh,

1308
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 4: can we go.

1309
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: Back to that?

1310
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: No, we actually can't. Also because it literally is not possible.

1311
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: Also the other part, why isn't it possible?

1312
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: Though, Luke?

1313
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: Basically what you want is MMA fighters who are good

1314
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: to not be involved, and you want two Charlatans to

1315
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: fuck each other up in short order, right?

1316
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 3: Isn't that what forty percent of the audience wants. I'm

1317
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: just saying right, oh.

1318
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't care what they want. I mean,

1319
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: I care what I want, right, They don't care what

1320
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: I want, so I don't care what they want.

1321
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: Wow, it's the reality people. For example, I know.

1322
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 3: That you want it that way, but tell me why right.

1323
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: I tweeted the other day that I said I wanted

1324
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: Till versus Whitaker, and someone goes, why would you want that?

1325
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: That's a terrible fight for Till, And I'm like, well,

1326
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: first of all, a he might win. Second of all, dude,

1327
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm not promoting the fight. You're asking me, as a fan,

1328
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 1: what do I want to see? I want to see

1329
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: Till versus Whitaker. Now, in fairness, are there other fights

1330
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: besides the Whitaker fight you could make for Till? That'd

1331
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: be awesome. Of course, for sure, you don't have to

1332
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: make that one. But what I like to see it?

1333
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: And do I think it's great?

1334
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1335
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: Why do I have to think like a promoter? I

1336
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: can understand why the promoter may or may not make it,

1337
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: But as a consumer, am I not allowed to advocate

1338
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: for what I want to see? So to your point,

1339
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: you want to see shitheads who can't fight, and I

1340
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: want to see the world's elite.

1341
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: That makes us different in that regard.

1342
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: Secondly, what I would say is, look at the question

1343
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: UFC hosting exhibition matches or grappling matches. Dog get a

1344
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: flow grappling, Yeah, but or UC five pass. UC five

1345
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: pass is literally picking. Let's get a bunch of guys

1346
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: who are good at jiu jitsu for mma, and then

1347
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: let's put them in a grappling contest.

1348
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: Why would you watch that?

1349
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 4: But grappling is very like you know, when you were

1350
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: in like middle school, and you know what you're gonna

1351
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 4: get from Cinemax after eleven o'clock.

1352
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 3: If you're if you're.

1353
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 4: Watching Red Shoe Diaries, you know where you're gonna get

1354
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 4: from showtime, unless it's real sex. And that's a gamble too,

1355
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 4: because there's some gross people on that show. You're getting basically,

1356
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 4: you know you're not it's it ain't it ain't what

1357
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 4: you're there for. Luke, Okay, you're there to bang, all right,

1358
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 4: and so let these guys bang for one round? Is

1359
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 4: that too much happen? How about a reality show on

1360
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 4: you Bypass, Billy Madison style where you go back to

1361
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 4: old Marietta and relive all the people that have hurt

1362
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: you and challenge them to grapple that I don't think.

1363
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: About you think about them more than I think about them.

1364
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: That's the funny part about this.

1365
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 3: All those old jocks are changing oil. Now we'll get

1366
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: them on the mat and roll with you.

1367
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: Actually, one of the I don't want them demean him,

1368
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: but yeah, he's not doing great. All right, let's go

1369
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: to BAP Shephard with all the new I'm assuming this

1370
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: is bantam weights fights coming up, Santagan, Edgar, Aldo, Mourish,

1371
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: Favor and Yon. How nervous should al Jamain be who

1372
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: was in studio with us not too long ago, that

1373
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: he will miss his well deserved title shot with his

1374
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: time offers injury.

1375
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, Brian Campbell, it.

1376
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: Wasn't a title shot right away, he was going he

1377
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: was offered and was going to accept the fight against

1378
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: Frankie Edgar to be at UFC two forty four for

1379
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: for Edgar's bantamwait debut, but he had a wrist and

1380
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: hand injury, so he had to withdraw from that and

1381
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: now they're gonna give it to Fordy Sanhagan.

1382
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: So with that in mind, how nervos Shanalja main be

1383
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: he should be.

1384
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 4: Pretty nervous when anytime you get a stacked division. Uh,

1385
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 4: And it's really like who's the healthiest and who's the

1386
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 4: closest to the phone. That's what it can come down to,

1387
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 4: you know. And this is just a bad time for

1388
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 4: him right now when he was hot, when he sort

1389
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 4: of remember he bounces back from some of those early

1390
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: losses when originally he was this bright prospect and he's

1391
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 4: put it all together. He's ready right now, and he's

1392
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 4: gonna probably have to go not to the back of

1393
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 4: the line, but to the middle of the line. Look,

1394
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: and nobody wants.

1395
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 2: To be there. Yeah.

1396
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: I asked san Haagen, like, if you beat Edgar, do

1397
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: you think you're going to get a title shot and

1398
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: be like, you know, are you at the point in

1399
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: your career where, okay, you're ready to have one?

1400
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: He said yes, and yes, Like he's gonna be a problem.

1401
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: He's gonna be a problem for this. It's an interesting fight.

1402
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: It's a fun division. Man, when you got payote Yan,

1403
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: you don't know how good that guy is going to

1404
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: be too.

1405
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: He may send mister.

1406
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 4: Faber to I think it's Hell, I think it's Peter,

1407
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 4: It's Petra, it's whatever they I mean, they've they've got

1408
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 4: about forty pronunciations on air for that guy, you know.

1409
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: All right, So we go now to be health Studios.

1410
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: Which UFC fighter has been the best act or in

1411
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: a film so far? Oh Jesus, anyone who didn't have

1412
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: a speaking role, Which do.

1413
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: You think could be good at it? What type of

1414
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 2: film would you want to see them in? Wasn't Paul

1415
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 2: Felder a stage thespian? I have no knowledge of this.

1416
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: Yes he was, he was.

1417
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: He did plays in college, all right, he was a

1418
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was a play right. I

1419
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: don't think we can get him for good Will hunting too.

1420
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: One time asked him his favorite acting performance, and he

1421
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: named a play.

1422
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,479
Speaker 2: He didn't name a movie. So maybe Paul Felder, who's

1423
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:27,959
Speaker 2: got some acting.

1424
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 4: I could see Luke rock Hole playing the dick boyfriend

1425
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 4: and any and any movie you want to cook out.

1426
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 1: I don't know how did he be on the delivering

1427
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: of the lines, though he could do the look with

1428
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: like the popped polo shirt and like the sunglasses.

1429
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: He'd be every eighties villain for like a high school movie.

1430
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 3: If there's lines involved, he could probably call Nick.

1431
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 2: Right, Uh got to be cruel. Why you gotta be cool?

1432
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 3: Timing don't time to be cool?

1433
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 2: Uh?

1434
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: Granny guitar was okay in Expendables again had no lines.

1435
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 2: How many how many of those B movies have you seen?

1436
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: These guys have been in like No Way Out or

1437
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: Justice for the Small I have.

1438
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 4: I know in pro Wrestling that ww actually has their

1439
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 4: own studios where they have these differ Does UFC have this?

1440
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 2: No? But like there used to. It's it's tapered off some.

1441
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: But there was like a good ten year period where

1442
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: I would get emails from pr Flax being like, we've

1443
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: got so and.

1444
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 2: So we've got Boss. Boss.

1445
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 3: Rutin was great in the in the Kevin James.

1446
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: Here Comes the Boom. Yes, maybe that's the best one.

1447
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 4: My kids love that movie Here Comes the Boom, probably

1448
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 4: because they're Paul Blart marks, which I don't understand.

1449
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: But you know those two movies with the mall cup, Dude,

1450
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: are you raising idiots? I'm not saying they are. Are

1451
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: you raising some No?

1452
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 4: There, they're getting to that age where they watch what

1453
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 4: they want. Now you know it's not just but I'm

1454
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 4: bringing it back in one I watch Commando with one

1455
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 4: of my sons, right, Okay, the everyone was a little

1456
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 4: too scared of.

1457
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: It, all right, but yeah, that's good. I'm happy to

1458
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: hear that.

1459
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 4: Right.

1460
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna get them on the Mandalorian with that illegal

1461
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 2: pirate and stream soon.

1462
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: So you know, you know what, I might have to

1463
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: buy you a subscription for your kids. Well old uncle

1464
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: Luke coming to the rescue, all right, that's probably the

1465
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: best one. But no, don't you remember there was a

1466
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: ten year period where you would get emails being like, hey,

1467
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: here's the studio you've never heard of, here's this movie,

1468
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: and it have like it might have a random martial

1469
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: arts guy you might recognize from a poster, and then

1470
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: like four UFC fighters and the plot was they're breaking

1471
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: out of prison, but they got to fight their way

1472
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: out and ship.

1473
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 3: I think a GSP could be in some French films.

1474
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 2: Wasn't he? And he was ball rog and Captain America. Wow,

1475
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: Jason my air trying to let me know about some

1476
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: Verizon deal but in the middle of the show for ja.

1477
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, so there you go. And then lastly,

1478
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: Divad hc Step says the answer everybody wants to know. Dude,

1479
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: you guys know this whole. Did Jeffrey Epstein kill himself?

1480
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: Which probably he was murdered, I don't.

1481
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: Know lean on probably.

1482
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean, well, the one person who said he was

1483
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: murdered was that famous pathologist, forensic pathologist from the HBO series,

1484
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: so he Look, I don't think you need the medical

1485
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: about just everybody knows this just over and then when

1486
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: the show knows this, the did Jeffrey Epstein kill himself?

1487
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: A bit where people ask it and then introduce him

1488
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: to answers and everything it started it has an origin

1489
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: on fascist websites. I want everyone to know that we're

1490
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: repeating this back into the show.

1491
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: Normal. We're always ruining a good thing.

1492
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 3: You're always like we should we shouldn't be doing that.

1493
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 3: You know what that stuff does to.

1494
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 2: You if you eat it?

1495
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 4: Like, let me eat it, all right, I can choose

1496
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 4: where I want to eat my lunch.

1497
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: It might be a gas station. I don't need you

1498
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 3: to tell me that.

1499
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's dead. It's possible he killed himself. I

1500
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: don't know, but if he was murdered.

1501
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 4: The only I don't like about it is it it's

1502
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 4: sort of made him like a de facto Harrow Harrow

1503
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 4: because people are people are gravitating to this because of

1504
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 4: the conspiracy element, because it's probably he probably didn't kill

1505
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 4: himself because of all the secrets he had.

1506
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: But then it sort of makes him like this this uh,

1507
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: it makes him a martyr in a weird way.

1508
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 4: When people play out this joke, I feel like it's

1509
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 4: sort of without real life, without going well yeah, yeah,

1510
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 4: I mean.

1511
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: The idea is like, yes, people in prison technically should

1512
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: not be murdered, they should be protected. Okay, I guess,

1513
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: But it's like, is anyone losing sleep over this fucker?

1514
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 3: I mean, he had secrets, bro, he had all lots.

1515
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: Is he gonna tell him? Was he gonna tell him? Really?

1516
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: I mean this ended the way it was going to end.

1517
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like one way.

1518
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 4: I feel like you're better than that than that take?

1519
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 4: What that take right there? That take sucks.

1520
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: I think I think this amount of time remember that

1521
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: show you set you protected all these weird angles you.

1522
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: Were like, I think spending this amount of time on

1523
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: a topic this idiotic is partly the brand of the show.

1524
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: Luke, Who'shot? JFK. That's really what I want to know

1525
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 2: from you right now.

1526
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: To the left and to the back right the old

1527
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: JFK movie with Kevin Costner.

1528
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: No, we should not be normalizing stuff like this. Just

1529
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: everybody knows. All right, there you go. Also, I don't

1530
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 2: get way to bring the show down.

1531
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: Luckily we got a lot.

1532
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 2: All right. This is the portion on Sprockets where we

1533
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: do slapstick.

1534
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 3: Hey, slaptick time, Luke? Have you seen this shit?

1535
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: I just want.

1536
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 4: To get you prepared, Luke, Okay, while I set this

1537
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 4: up right here.

1538
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: This is a loaded version.

1539
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 4: There's so much that went down this weekend, so much good,

1540
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 4: bad and ugly, that this is going to be our

1541
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 4: best and longest.

1542
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 3: Have you seen this shit ever? Are you ready? Buckle up?

1543
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: Luke? Okay?

1544
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 4: All right, all right, here's where we begin. We begin

1545
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 4: in London Probellum one. I've had about fifteen people send

1546
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 4: me this clip and ask me if I've seen this.

1547
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: Ross Pearson gets sent to.

1548
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 3: Hell by rolling thunder by Davy Gallon.

1549
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 4: Holy crap, play that back Jay about fifty times in

1550
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 4: my ear hole?

1551
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 2: Can you see this again, Luke, dude, this is what

1552
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: I mean. Poor Ross Pearson was thinking to himself. You know,

1553
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: Ross Pearson went to bare knuckle for a while. He

1554
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 2: said I don't have to fight the best of the best.

1555
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm not in the UFC. And then he gets hit with.

1556
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,959
Speaker 4: The Oh my god, he's just just mail your soul

1557
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 4: ahead of time, like this guy's just taking you.

1558
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: Look at his Wikipedia. It's bad.

1559
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 4: This is about as bad as it gets. Shout out

1560
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 4: to Davey Gallon for nailing this. This is video game shit.

1561
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: This is video game shit. Exactly what this is.

1562
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 4: Ross Pearson gave us a lot of fun fights, but

1563
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 4: there's a lot of l's in a row on his

1564
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 4: ledger now and holy crap right there.

1565
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 1: And that's one of those losses too, where you can't

1566
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: tell if the person feels it and they say to themself, wow,

1567
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: if I'm losing this bat and hang it up or

1568
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: that was so what in a million?

1569
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 2: I shouldn't hang it up? All right.

1570
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 4: On the second one, we're gonna go to Risen sixteen

1571
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 4: and I need you to tell me, Mojo Risen, I

1572
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 4: need you to tell me is this lame or is

1573
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 4: this cool?

1574
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: Jake Hoon channeling.

1575
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 4: Apparently Chris Pratt and Guardians of the Galaxy people are

1576
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 4: telling me, I'm not woke to that. To me, this

1577
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 4: is lame as a ball bag, Luke, what is going on?

1578
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: Okay? But what song is playing? That's what I need.

1579
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 4: It's the damn the one from the film. And I

1580
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 4: went and looked on YouTube and Jade, you know what day?

1581
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: What song is it?

1582
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 4: I don't get down with these weird superhero movies. All

1583
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: I know is that this makes me want to start

1584
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 4: back in. Michelle Padatas as cool after what Now?

1585
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: Did you not did you see Guardians? I know you did.

1586
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: That's so funny because Guardians of the gall Do you

1587
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: watch Marvel movies at all?

1588
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 3: I don't.

1589
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I wouldn't be entertaining, but I take

1590
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: your kids.

1591
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: To Paul Blart Molcop but you won't take them to

1592
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: see Marvel.

1593
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,959
Speaker 2: No. I take them to Star Wars everything. Okay, Okay,

1594
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 2: do your kids like this? They haven't seen that. They've

1595
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: never seen the Marvel movies. They've never seen Avengers Infinity War.

1596
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 4: Or they'll find a show on Netflix that they like

1597
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 4: and watch all eight seasons in a row, in like

1598
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 4: a loop, just over and.

1599
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: I believe it. I believe it.

1600
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: Okay, the Gardens of the Galaxy are My wife can't

1601
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: stand the Marvel movies except.

1602
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 2: For Guardians of the Gallaxy. I hear, it's great. What's

1603
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 2: this dude?

1604
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: Who's the pro wrestler who's in that Dave Batista? Uh,

1605
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: shockingly funny in that one. The whole series is funny.

1606
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 3: They're telling me. In my it's included with Disney Plus.

1607
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 2: And this guy, this guy star Lord Quill is hysterical.

1608
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 3: So you're saying, this is cool, this is great, This

1609
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: is one of the best moments.

1610
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: Would have to hear exactly which song it is?

1611
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 4: Okay, what song is it? I know everyone at home

1612
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:18,479
Speaker 4: watching it is screaming, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's okay.

1613
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm alright with it.

1614
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 4: A lot of people saying in my ear that it

1615
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 4: looks like our our, our trustee social media producer over here,

1616
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 4: Derek King, that it's very right there.

1617
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: Are you cool? Well, I wouldn't say considerably.

1618
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 4: The former D one football player right there, scholarship athlete

1619
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: sort of sort of yeah, all right, all right, let's

1620
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 4: get out of here.

1621
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 3: This is lame O can handle this anymore?

1622
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: Hey?

1623
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 4: You remember that guy that Canelo folded up in a

1624
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 4: suitcase last summer. Rockiel Rockey fielding was back this weekend

1625
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 4: against Abdella Pozzi Pozzi. Look at that little flour piece

1626
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 4: you just gave him there. That does not come with

1627
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 4: a soda, but it does come with a ticket to hell.

1628
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 2: Wow, Rocky Filly I had in studio.

1629
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 3: He was a nice guy, very nice book, very nice guy.

1630
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: Uh he actually did a whole game on on a Liverpool.

1631
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 2: Look at this.

1632
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 3: Unfortunately forfeited his soul. That's Canela.

1633
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 4: Look at that combo right there. Wowup Pozzi. Well Posey

1634
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 4: is sent down below. I don't know, but that was

1635
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 4: a first round knockout, I believe. There in Liverpool this weekend.

1636
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 4: Did you check out show Box on Friday, Luke. On

1637
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 4: the undercard, there's a fellow named Amilcar Vidal. He's ten

1638
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 4: and oh with nine KOs fielding one more time. Ah

1639
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 4: look at what he does. Say look at that package

1640
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 4: you put together on Ariel Prieto. This goes down as

1641
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 4: a first round TKO. Like I said, ten and oh

1642
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 4: nine KOs, look like Vidal baboon in there box.

1643
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, he is all Argentine fighters can paunch.

1644
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 2: Luke, it's a stereotyper from Argentina. Damn right.

1645
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 4: Shout out to Lucas Matisse. The machine. The first knockdown

1646
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 4: was was a little bit more vicious. What's good looking

1647
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 4: ish there?

1648
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: Over the weekend?

1649
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: Have you seen that ship? You should have on showtime?

1650
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 4: He looks smooth, Luke, I want to take you to

1651
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 4: the links right now. I told you I do a

1652
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 4: podcast with Shot this weekend. He was at a golf

1653
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 4: tournament in Florida. Check out this t shot.

1654
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 2: Hey, Charles Barber, it hit a house. You can't. You

1655
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: gotta go to this thing and check out the volume

1656
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 2: on that. He hit a house and look at the comments.

1657
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 4: Erkle's taking shots at him right there, Julia Wood, check

1658
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 4: it out.

1659
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: We got Kevin i Oli and we got ercle bro

1660
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: he is. Check out this. Look at him in shape.

1661
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 2: This guy's ready in shape. That is the wow swing.

1662
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 3: Shout out to the UFC Hall of Fame or earthquake survivor.

1663
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 4: By the way, Sugar shot Evans during his speech remember

1664
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame over International Fight Week.

1665
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: He looks like, I mean that is not graceful. Have

1666
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 2: you seen that ship? I want to take you to

1667
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: some uh. You know how they have the rule in MMA, Luke.

1668
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 4: If you can't do the spinny shit, then don't do

1669
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 4: it because you're about to be Chris Weidman to hell.

1670
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 2: This is in.

1671
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 4: ACA one oh one, Daniel Planka badly screwing up some

1672
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 4: some spinny ish and Rado slow Puzzuski drops the polish.

1673
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: Hammer on him, and how off balanced he is when

1674
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: he's good. It looks like prime Chris Washman right there.

1675
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 2: Oh dude, that looks like I mean, honestly, it is

1676
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 2: like you can hear that the ref slipping and sliding

1677
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 2: over there to see if is like drunk. I mean

1678
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 2: I've often said this. You know this to be true

1679
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: in Mma, where.

1680
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: Guys are trying stuff they shouldn't be doing, some of

1681
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: their losses are like like technique karma.

1682
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like this is what This is why you

1683
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:27,439
Speaker 2: don't throw shit.

1684
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 4: This is why you don't try a jumping arm bar

1685
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 4: like that chick tried. And have you seen this shit

1686
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 4: a few weeks ago? Right, head on the technique karma.

1687
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 4: You ain't Demetrius Johnson, all right, If you do that,

1688
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 4: you're gonna end up on the show in this ball

1689
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 4: bag segment. Okay, it's not gonna make a red Hey,

1690
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 4: let's keep it going here. You know my new favorite fighter,

1691
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 4: Aviv Gozally on Belatour. Remember he had that fifteen seconds

1692
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 4: four second submission last time.

1693
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: Luke.

1694
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Luke, he's four and oher with four subs. He's

1695
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 4: eighteen years old. This was at Belotour two thirty four

1696
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 4: in Tel Aviv. He's from Israel. Check out this first

1697
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 4: round submission. How do you like the technique there?

1698
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: Uh? Great? Every time he.

1699
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 4: Fights Luke, he makes our highlight reel. This guy's amazing

1700
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 4: Aviv Gozali. I don't know much about the competition, but uh,

1701
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 4: he's a showman. Remember that one where you faked the

1702
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 4: Uh he went in kind of faked the handshake and

1703
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 4: then roll into the minari roll and got the instant tap.

1704
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 1: Yeah you down with that move right there? Yeah, it's nice.

1705
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: I just don't have very you know.

1706
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 3: Does it make your ADCC.

1707
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 2: I can't go to.

1708
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: Israel because I got a elevenies passport stamp, so I

1709
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: don't want to lose that.

1710
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 3: So you're gonna hold it against this guy he's out

1711
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 3: here tapping.

1712
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: No, it's a nice it's a nice joke, all right,

1713
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 2: but beyond that, I don't care.

1714
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 3: All right, I says a guy who grew up and

1715
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 3: cut her. All right, let's go here.

1716
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if we should celebrate this knockout.

1717
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 3: But I had to show it to you, Luke.

1718
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 4: LFA seventy eight over the weekend, Jose Johnson sends Raphael Costa.

1719
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 3: To the deep dark depths and look at that reaction.

1720
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 2: Oh, this was so bad.

1721
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 4: Now where did he he hit him with a twelve six?

1722
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I think even Matt he looked.

1723
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't straight down. It looked like it was

1724
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 2: curbedry like joke.

1725
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 3: Matt Hamill heard that it was so loud. That was

1726
01:06:58,680 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 3: the joke.

1727
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 2: Luke. Sorry, you know I heard. I heard your joke.

1728
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 2: What did you not? Have you ever seen a reaction

1729
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 2: like that? That's bad.

1730
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 4: Now.

1731
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: I've seen twitching with the feet, I've never seen twitching

1732
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 2: with the.

1733
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 3: Head night at the Roxbury. I mean, that's just not good.

1734
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 2: Dude, that is so bad, so bad. What does that's o?

1735
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 2: LFA just got signed to UFC Fight Pass.

1736
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: Yes, which, by the way, a little note on this

1737
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: is a true story. Uh now because LFA is with

1738
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: fight Pass. Yeah, they're gonna put the lf A library

1739
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: all on fight all.

1740
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 4: The Phoenix Carnevale. You can you can handle their shout

1741
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 4: out or for.

1742
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: Someone like me has to go back and look at fights.

1743
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: It's a nice way to see someone's progression.

1744
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, I got one more for you.

1745
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 4: I know you don't like this segment list somebody gets

1746
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 4: hitting the nuts somewhere, Luke. Okay, so you know those

1747
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 4: you know those lame we gotta watch this guy di again.

1748
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 4: You know those lame gender reveals.

1749
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 3: This guy had it.

1750
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 2: Come and check this out, Luke.

1751
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 4: I don't care about Oh my God, to the pills,

1752
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 4: what you.

1753
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 2: Get for having a gender reveal party to begin with.

1754
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 2: So the good news is you're having a boy.

1755
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 4: The bad news is you'll never have him again because

1756
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 4: this guy just took him right to the boys.

1757
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 2: Check this out, Luke.

1758
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 4: Oh, Luke, you want to put an ultrasound picture on

1759
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 4: your Facebook, That's fine. I celebrate. I commend you the

1760
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 4: miracle of life that is birth. Your wife gave birth.

1761
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 4: It's amazing. I don't need this type of weird uh

1762
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 4: YouTube bs of people you.

1763
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 2: Know, like, did you and your wife ever do a

1764
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: gender room?

1765
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 3: Not negatory.

1766
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 2: I want to. I want everyone to know if I

1767
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 2: look down, everyone who does, I'm not done watching this.

1768
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 3: Jake, can we run?

1769
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 2: I mean check this? I mean, what do you think

1770
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 2: is gonna happen.

1771
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: Less of you as parents and people if you have

1772
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: a gender reveal party.

1773
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 4: In the description it said teen father, so he still

1774
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 4: may have a chance to produce kids.

1775
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

1776
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 3: That was a pretty direct shot.

1777
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 2: Luke good.

1778
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: I am, I am, and I would like to take

1779
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: my pants off to enjoy further this man's pain.

1780
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. This is just dark.

1781
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: Ye, this is just the wedding industry bleeding money from

1782
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: the more.

1783
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't need I don't need creative prom asking videos.

1784
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 3: You just go up to a chicken.

1785
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 2: Asker, right, I mean coming? Did you ever see that one? Uh?

1786
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: The one?

1787
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: It was a phone case where if you wanted to

1788
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: propose the true if you want to propose to your girl,

1789
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: you put the phone, you put the ring in the case,

1790
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 1: and then as you flip open the phone.

1791
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: You can even do it on an iPhone.

1792
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: It would pop open the ring right in front of

1793
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: the camera so you could see her reaction as you're

1794
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: asking her with the ring in the picture.

1795
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: See my day.

1796
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 4: We would just bring a box up to a girl.

1797
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 4: Step three, open the box and.

1798
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 2: Where's a drive by shooter when you need one?

1799
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 3: Wow, they're listening to your playlist right now, getting ready?

1800
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: I hope shit, yeah, I hope. Wow.

1801
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 3: Hey have you seen that?

1802
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 2: Shit? Look best segment of the week by far.

1803
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 4: Come on it get touches you in all those places.

1804
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 2: You in the right place.

1805
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 4: People are getting behind it though, my dem You know

1806
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 4: how many pictures of Valentino Chefchenko are in my dms

1807
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 4: right now.

1808
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 3: The people love this ship.

1809
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 1: Well, that's because the Shiftchenko has super horned up fans

1810
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: for some reason.

1811
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 2: Have you noticed that? I've never noticed that at all.

1812
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: Shouts to Jack Slack, who constantly makes one of them.

1813
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 2: All right, So that leaves us to that means we

1814
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 2: have like minded people, all right, they they you know.

1815
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: That leaves us left with the oene segment, the oe

1816
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: odds and ends, all right, Brian Kemble, what you got.

1817
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 4: For it was bk FC nine seven nine one of

1818
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 4: them over the weekend in Biloxi, Mississippi, the home of

1819
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 4: Mississippi Mean Hick Diez Jason Knight. It was the rematch

1820
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 4: with our Tom Lobob for the Walter White Championship. You

1821
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 4: remember in April. Their first bout was a It looked

1822
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 4: like a horror movie at the end. There was so

1823
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,799
Speaker 4: many cuts. They ran it back and Jason Knight knocks

1824
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 4: out Low Bob in the fifth round. It was it

1825
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 4: was a pretty impressive performance. He actually were The first

1826
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 4: one was just a barroom brawl. The second one was

1827
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 4: a little more tootature and he was hurting Low Bob

1828
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 4: from the first round.

1829
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: On kind Jason Knight knockout Paul or not knockout Artam

1830
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 1: and Paulie couldn't do it.

1831
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 4: Paul We tried to actually box in this fight, and

1832
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 4: Paulie also doesn't have the hands. But I don't think

1833
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 4: Lo Bob deserved that, deserved that decision, but he kind

1834
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 4: of became the face of the brand now Night beat him.

1835
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 3: What do you gotta do running back? I guess you

1836
01:10:59,040 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 3: got to run it back.

1837
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: I guess they could do it, but I mean, could

1838
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 1: you bare knuckle box in Ireland?

1839
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 2: Are they allowed to do that?

1840
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: I think you grew up doing that right, yeah, but

1841
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,480
Speaker 1: like for money officially on television.

1842
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 4: Drink enough of that proper twelve you probably will. And

1843
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 4: also on the undercard, did you see our guy.

1844
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 2: Really are? Did you see what's his name? Fellon?

1845
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 3: You know, uh crazy horse ohey.

1846
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:20,799
Speaker 2: Charles Bennett.

1847
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 4: Charles Bennett was back and he came out with his

1848
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 4: pants around his ankles, and he ended up succumbing to

1849
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 4: an injury. But I went back and watched the kJ

1850
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 4: and even stuff all over again. That was just classic.

1851
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 2: I remember that, Yeah, I certainly do. Did you catch

1852
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: this card?

1853
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's it's the it's the kind of

1854
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 4: slop that sometimes moves me and sometimes makes me feel uncomfortable.

1855
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to say about that. The

1856
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 2: same slop does that to you? Yeah? Either way?

1857
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 4: That first, well, look the first lowbo of night fight.

1858
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 4: By the last round, I'm sort of like.

1859
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if they had done that twice, I would

1860
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: be concerned. But they it wasn't the same. It was

1861
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: actually a So what should be the trilogy of a

1862
01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: sword fight?

1863
01:11:58,560 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: What do you want?

1864
01:11:59,720 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: Uh?

1865
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 2: Does there have to be a trilogy? It's a fair point.

1866
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 3: But well, when you're a BKFC, what else do you have?

1867
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 2: Luke?

1868
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 3: What else do you have to get?

1869
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: The people they got legalized? They got legalized in two

1870
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: extra states. First, all that's great North Dakota. Yeah, two places,

1871
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: flower Country? And then lastly, I love I love saying

1872
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: flower Country because I know that tilts some where's our footage.

1873
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: No footage of this, no footage. Lastly, I'll stay on

1874
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 1: the BKFC thing. Hey guys, this guy popped up on

1875
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 1: my radar a while ago because I follow a lot

1876
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: of like barbend accounts, and you know we lived in

1877
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: the accounts.

1878
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't know if you know this.

1879
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: The Iranians are excellent strength athletes, Like they're very very good.

1880
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: Speaking of Iranians, speaking of strength athletes, speaking of just

1881
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: weird speaking, BKFC has announced that this viral sensation, this

1882
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: dude who, how do I explain how he looks?

1883
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: He looks like photoshop? He's tell me we have photos

1884
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 2: of him?

1885
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: Do we have photos of this Iranian hulk jay that

1886
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: could be on me? We don't have them. Google Iranian Hulk. Okay,

1887
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: his name is Sajad r Ebuh. He basically looks like

1888
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 1: a mutant from another dimension. I don't know how this

1889
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: man defecates and cleans himself. I don't know really how

1890
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: he goes through most life events. I mean, look at that.

1891
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: Yeah here, ok, can you can you get that? Jake?

1892
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 2: Jake, can you come in on this year?

1893
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: I got I can throll on the iPad. This is

1894
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: what he looks like he's supposed to be six y three.

1895
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be six foot three and three hundred

1896
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: and ninety pounds. He's gonna gas after five seconds.

1897
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 2: Certainly.

1898
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: What I like about watching him fight is clean sport

1899
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: really matters to me. Bryan Campbell and there's nothing.

1900
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: He looks like Iranian Shrek. Look at this guy, science

1901
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 2: experiment turned into a human. Dude.

1902
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 1: I mean, if he has the same amount of blood

1903
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: as he does antabolic steroids in his veins, would you

1904
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: be surprised?

1905
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 3: Is that water in his like under boob right there?

1906
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 2: What is that? Those are his lats? Wow? Those are

1907
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 2: his lats? Dude.

1908
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: He's gonna walk. He's gonna gas walking to the to

1909
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 1: the ring. Honestly, he's gonna throw.

1910
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 3: Who sure they got to put him in there against?

1911
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know a rhino, uh, A chimpanzee.

1912
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 1: I don't honestly know a chimpanzee would suck him up.

1913
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 3: But I got it.

1914
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,799
Speaker 2: I got somebody for him. Pousia brother, Poosia. Dude, Poujia

1915
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: would ruin him.

1916
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 3: You don't know Posa's bare knuckle game.

1917
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: You don't know that. You're just you know dude.

1918
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: He's this five times world's strongest man and he's a

1919
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: legit MMA fighter. He would fuck this dude up. But

1920
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: you're right I would want to see it, though I

1921
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: don't want to see it. This is what I'm talking about,

1922
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: like Jason Knight versus Arts and low Ball, because a

1923
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: fine thing to to Okay, those guys they put it

1924
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 1: out there right, good for them. But you want to

1925
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: capture my attention. Yeah, I want to see some science

1926
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: experiments fight some fucking strong.

1927
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 3: You like the back end of the show. I know

1928
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,879
Speaker 3: you like the back end. Look we do it gets wild.

1929
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 2: Here, we don't do You don't want to see that?

1930
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 2: Of course?

1931
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 3: I for that.

1932
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 2: You think ks W would let him go fighting bare.

1933
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 3: Knuckles one to go to Cumbland Farms after this, we'll

1934
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 3: check out the road.

1935
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 2: By the way, you owe me beer, Welcher.

1936
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 4: I think we need to like actually set this up right,

1937
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 4: get a sponsor involved, get a brewery in here.

1938
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 2: Stop being lazy, and bring the beer in that you

1939
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 2: claim is life changing. It's very simple. It really is

1940
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: life changing.

1941
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well apparently because you were hoarding it. We have

1942
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: dom rays in here and we'll just drink a twelve

1943
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: of yengars.

1944
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: You know what we should do. It's a true story.

1945
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Speaker 1: We should do a show where we drink a beer

1946
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Speaker 1: for every segment and so by like the end of

1947
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Speaker 1: the show, we'll have eight or nine deep.

1948
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Speaker 4: If we look to change the look of the show

1949
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Speaker 4: next year, maybe go from bomb shelter to bar.

1950
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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll get a bar.

1951
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Speaker 2: Tender in here. That'll be nice.

1952
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Speaker 1: Shh, Yeah, I would betologists. I would do it, old mixologists,

1953
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Speaker 1: I would have that happen, all right. A misogynist, we

1954
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Speaker 1: got one and we got with us, all right. Like

1955
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Speaker 1: we said before, please like and subscribe to the show.

1956
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: We were the channel. We really appreciate when you do.

1957
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Speaker 1: We need more of those.

1958
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Speaker 2: Gotta drive them, folks, gotta drive the got goals to

1959
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 2: hit thirty K. I would like to see how.

1960
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Speaker 3: There's no show like this loop. There really is not.

1961
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Speaker 4: You cut a promo on our enemies please, I mean,

1962
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Speaker 4: if you're not with us, you're against us. This is

1963
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Speaker 4: the show that's taking over combat sports.

1964
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Speaker 1: And if you want more of us on social there's

1965
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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell and then be Campbell CBS.

1966
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no stick picks us that will still applies.

1967
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Speaker 1: And then uh, look, Thomas News on Insta and then

1968
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Speaker 1: l Thomas News on Twitter and then again Morning Combat

1969
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Speaker 1: on Instagram as well.

1970
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Speaker 4: How excited are you for UFC two forty five, man?

1971
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Speaker 4: That card is uh yeah, you're gonna be there. You

1972
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Speaker 4: gotta go.

1973
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Speaker 1: No, I'm not gonna go. I'll tell you why. For

1974
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Speaker 1: the show though it was a good personal uh not

1975
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Speaker 1: for me on the no fly list. I wish, I

1976
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Speaker 1: wish I was on a fucking no fly list. I

1977
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Speaker 1: hate getting on airplanes. But no, are you gonna go?

1978
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Speaker 2: Damn right, it's the biggest card of the year. What

1979
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Speaker 2: was the last UFC show you went to. I didn't

1980
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Speaker 2: go to New York because I was Canelo. What was

1981
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Speaker 2: the one before that? I went to the International week

1982
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Speaker 2: I feel like there was one to be doing.

1983
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Speaker 1: Okay, so there was two forty three, which was who

1984
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Speaker 1: the fuck isty? Two forty two was a beab? So

1985
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Speaker 1: what was two forty three? And then there was Max

1986
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Speaker 1: and Frankie? I can't remember which one that one was?

1987
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Speaker 1: Was that two forty three? This is a great show.

1988
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Speaker 1: Hold on, Yeah, we are well, certainly we are encyclopedic

1989
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Speaker 1: talent when it comes to this kind of thing.

1990
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Speaker 2: UFC.

1991
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Speaker 1: The show right now we'll get back down, would have

1992
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Speaker 1: Curd out of Sonya.

1993
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the under I didn't go to that one.

1994
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Speaker 1: Did you go to the Nate Diaz one against Pettis

1995
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Speaker 1: with Cormier and Steepe.

1996
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was July, right, Okay, so that's the

1997
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Speaker 2: last that that was August. That was the last one. Yeah,

1998
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Speaker 2: I was at that one. Yeah, all right, there we go.

1999
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Speaker 2: Good job.

2000
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a good show.

2001
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Speaker 2: Luke. Maybe this weekend you can find something that makes

2002
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Speaker 2: you happy.

2003
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Speaker 1: Sleep also hard for me to find. Thank you guys

2004
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Speaker 1: so much for watching. That's Brian Campbell. Follow him on

2005
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Speaker 1: social media. I'm Luke Thomas. Do the same and until

2006
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Speaker 1: next time, in all of your gains, be loyal.

2007
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Speaker 4: Yes,