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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dutton Zaren Burnette. Is so good to see you.

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Speaker 3: I know where you been.

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Speaker 2: How you been since the last time I say you.

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Speaker 2: It's been a week now.

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Speaker 3: It's really sorry to hear that it's been awesome.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, Thank god it you're just messing with when.

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Speaker 3: It's not good. You make it awesome.

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Speaker 2: Oh look at you.

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Speaker 3: Every day spent above ground is a good one.

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Speaker 2: Turning broken eggs into lemonade.

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Speaker 3: For totally so juicy.

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Speaker 2: That makes anyway you what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: The helicopter outside the studio.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, they we've been listening to that air beater.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if we should go outside and make sure

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Speaker 3: that they're not like ante situation.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm sure we're fine. We don't need to know anything.

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Speaker 2: Ignorance is bliss.

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Speaker 3: From what I want to wind up on our show.

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Speaker 2: It comes right in live raid on Ridiculous Crime. Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: I have something for you. If you got a second,

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Speaker 2: sure you can just forget about the helicopter.

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Speaker 3: I can.

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Speaker 2: I want you to imagine one of the smartest men

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Speaker 2: in the world I.

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Speaker 3: Didn't get to do. What's ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: Are you actually haven't. Oh well, tell me what's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: It all on the line here. Sure, it's a mashup,

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Speaker 3: all right, so just.

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Speaker 2: Calm down, okay, just over here.

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Speaker 3: This may be one of the worst ones I've ever done.

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Speaker 2: Really, you saved the best. Relax.

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Speaker 3: That's why the helicopters areund drop that. So do you

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Speaker 3: remember last year I talked to you about Ago Nog

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Speaker 3: sip and cream? Yeah, so it's just like agogg.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately I do remember these things, like I wish I

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Speaker 2: get to be like, no, I have no recollection.

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Speaker 3: What's Ago and Tennessee's sugar Lands Distilling Company? Oh god,

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Speaker 3: they got together, they're the ones who did Ago nog.

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Speaker 3: Well they came up with a new sip and yeah

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Speaker 3: it's a.

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Speaker 2: New it couldn't be stopped.

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Speaker 3: It's inspired by brunch. So it's a cream liqueur called

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Speaker 3: Ago Brunch in a jar.

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Speaker 2: That's funny.

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Speaker 3: And it combines the flavors of buttered and toasted a

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Speaker 3: gole waffles all right, savory bacon slices, sure, and a

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Speaker 3: drizzle of maple syrup.

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Speaker 2: That's all. No orange juice to make it at.

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Speaker 3: Someone if some like Arizona State Sorority Girl goes like

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Speaker 3: buck wild on a brunch and just cuts it loose

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Speaker 3: and then doesn't feel so hot and runs down a

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Speaker 3: hot sidewalk in flip flops and then falls down and

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Speaker 3: barfs in a jar. That yeah, it's my guess. Here's

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Speaker 3: their quote. Between the juggle of constantly changing schedules, household errands,

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Speaker 3: family outings, or busy work days, it can often feel

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Speaker 3: impossible for parents to find moments they can savor for themselves.

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Speaker 2: I prefer the jiggle, the juggle. That's me.

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Speaker 3: You're jingling baby, So Joe Boprez, this is the marketing

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Speaker 3: director with Ago got you know, God bless them. So,

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Speaker 3: then he continued Ago Brunch in a Jar makes it

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Speaker 3: easy for parents to kick back when they're not caring

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Speaker 3: for their little ones. So, whether parents want to punch

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Speaker 3: up a weekend brunch on a Saturday or savor some

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Speaker 3: of those classic brunch flavors during their downtime, this feel

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Speaker 3: good Ago inspired liqueur is the perfect treat. So you

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Speaker 3: just crack a jar, put a silly straw in it.

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Speaker 3: You're waiting for the kids to come out of school,

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Speaker 3: you're in the pickup line, you're just like pounding, just

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Speaker 3: chugging so hard and then you figure I get pulled over.

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Speaker 3: They think I've just been eating waffles.

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Speaker 2: You can't spell Sunday with that.

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Speaker 3: So it's available throughout the US. You can purchase it

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Speaker 3: online in some states, and unlike Ego Nog, which only

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Speaker 3: came out for the holiday season, remember around the year round. Baby,

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Speaker 3: you gotta be twenty one and older, so no kids.

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Speaker 3: But it's in a mason jar too, just like you

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Speaker 3: hit rock Bottom. It's white and creamy. It's the perfect

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Speaker 2: Mason jar is glass, right, drink is white.

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Speaker 3: It looks like mayonnaise.

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Speaker 2: It looks like, yeah, you're just sipping on glue.

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Speaker 3: Did you know something ago? Brunch in a jar is

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Speaker 3: the perfect way to elevate weekend brunch, the fun cocktail

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Speaker 3: or to enjoy classic brunch flavors during your well deserved

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Speaker 2: They don't know what the word perfect means.

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Speaker 3: No, they don't. Here's the thing. Basically, they're saying parents

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Speaker 3: lego liquor, and that zaren is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: That is certified.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, this was kind of like mustard Skittles.

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Speaker 3: We got a lot of tips on. Yeah. I can't

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Speaker 2: Can I just ask why do you people hate me? Yeah? Well, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: I got one for you. If he got a second,

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Speaker 2: I can do that. Okay, please, If you will, imagine

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Speaker 2: one of the smartest men in the world. Yes, okay, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: this man, he too, as long as he is straight,

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Speaker 2: can be felled by the power of the bikini. Yes. Now,

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Speaker 2: take the case of Paul Frampton, one of the most

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Speaker 2: brilliant mathematical physicists alive today. He risked it all to

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Speaker 2: chase after a bikini model a lost it all. The

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Speaker 2: spoiler alert turns out the bikini model was fake, but

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Speaker 2: the kilos of cocaine that the world famous physics professor

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Speaker 2: smuggled for her We're not wait. This is Ridiculous Crime

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Speaker 2: A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists and cons.

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Speaker 2: It's always ninety nine percent to free and ridiculous. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's right, Elizabeth. Yes, I got a question for you,

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Speaker 2: my friend. Yes, you know how I love physics.

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Speaker 3: I do know that. Actually I've seen this should.

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Speaker 2: Be scribbling and reading weird stuff. Right. Well, this cat

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Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you about. He's one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite theoretical physicists working today. Oh, I've read his journal

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Speaker 2: papers like I'm a fan of one of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well he's got a lot of papers.

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Speaker 3: Well no, I'm saying you like one of your favorite

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Speaker 3: the You have like a list of like four of

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Speaker 2: John Carlos Bays is definitely a favorite.

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Speaker 4: Was your second.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to fall for this trap, Elizabeth my Man.

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Speaker 2: Paul Frampton, Yeah all right, Peter, but yes, he also

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Speaker 2: came alive for crime. He's proposed novel theories for dark matter.

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Speaker 2: In his theory of dark matter, it would be attributable

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Speaker 2: to primordial black holes. All words you love?

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Speaker 3: Yum?

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Speaker 2: Right, dark matter, primordial black holes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so much sense to me.

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Speaker 2: He also this guy he created the chiral color model.

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Speaker 3: You're kidding.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he did the three three one model, which re

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Speaker 2: expresses the standard model with a different algy day. He

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Speaker 2: also has built models for matter antimatter asymmetry, and a

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Speaker 2: you love all this. He also, by the way, has

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Speaker 2: calculated the rate of vacuum decay for the onuantum field theory,

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Speaker 2: and he constructed a matrix to determine if forty two

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Speaker 2: it's truly the answer to life, the universe and everything.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, no, I through that last one in there

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Speaker 2: just for you. Okay, So let's say. My point is

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Speaker 2: this cat Paul Frampton, major heavy hitter in the world

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Speaker 2: of theoretical physics. But these days, if you google him,

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Speaker 2: that's no longer the first thing that pops up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Instead you'll see stories about the time he smuggled cocaine

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Speaker 2: for a bikini model who never really existed. Now it

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Speaker 2: sucks if you're a physics academic and an academic journal

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Speaker 2: like the like Advancing Physics publishes a story with the

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Speaker 2: Argentina and you're the professor because now everyone in physics

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Speaker 3: Aren't those supposed to be like academic paper is not

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, exactly. The physics world, like, hey, we

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be good. Okay, Elizabeth, this cat, as

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Speaker 2: I told you, he can calculate dark matter and the

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Speaker 2: vacuum decay rate of imaginary quasi particles. I hate somehow

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Speaker 2: he couldn't see an old fashioned long con right in

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Speaker 2: smack on the ego. Okay, this is what happens when

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Speaker 2: a middle aged man thinks that Miss Bikini World is

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Speaker 2: in love with him. Yeah. By the way, the Bikinian

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Speaker 2: model in question, she is a real woman. She's not

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Speaker 2: like an ai creation. Her name is Denise Mulaney. She

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Speaker 2: is an internationally famous model, and uh, I want you

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Speaker 2: end of his online communication. Elizabeth, this is Denise Mulani.

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Speaker 3: Oh yikes.

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Speaker 3: I think most men would look at that and say

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Speaker 2: Are they cartoons are cartoon wolves.

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Speaker 3: I'll just be anyone attracted to women would be like

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Speaker 3: Bazonga Zonga.

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Speaker 2: I like your cartoon wolf sexuality. Men are just reduced

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Speaker 3: Then I see a guy in like short shorts and.

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Speaker 4: You're like, it's the leader hosen, that's what does it

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Speaker 2: You like the spender's in something meat. No, okay, we're

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Speaker 2: learning a lot about Elizabeth today. Well, this theoretical physicist

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Speaker 2: Paul Frampton, he could, as I said, fully, rationally, logically

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Speaker 3: Well, poor lady's bikini tops falling off on the beach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got too much bothosom so hard for her. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this man has three degrees from Oxford, and yet he

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Speaker 2: never questioned the logic of this. Yeah, this is this

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Speaker 2: about to say, one former student they put it, quote,

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Speaker 2: women came later in Paul's life.

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Speaker 2: Well I mean, but hey, women came later in my life,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't married in my twenties or thirties or any

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Speaker 2: Like you could say the same thing. So like, I

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Speaker 2: don't consider myself naive about women, but this guy, apparently

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he's focusing on building his career and

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Speaker 3: his brain. Sure, and the numbers.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's more to it than that. Yeah, he's kind

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Speaker 2: of her. I'll let hit people who know him better

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Speaker 2: than I explain it. Before he met the fake Denise Malaney,

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Speaker 2: he had been married. He got married at age fifty,

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Speaker 2: old French woman. She called herself a physics groupie, so

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Speaker 2: that was fun for them. She was smart, but she

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Speaker 2: wasn't like you know, in Paul Frampton's league. Smart but

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Speaker 2: is what ex wife did say of their relationship quote.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't completely follow everything Paul said because of the mathematics,

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Speaker 2: Change your dark vibes. So New York Times they visited

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Speaker 2: what happened? And he's like, oh, man, don't worry about it.

435
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 2: The president of Harvard's gonna meet with the resident of Argentina.

436
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 2: She's probably gonna slip a note and get me out

437
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 2: of here. And they're like, are you for real right now?

438
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 2: And he's like, oh totally, And he said, and I quote,

439
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 2: I think I've never been discussed by two such important

440
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 2: people in my life, Elizabeth, Oh my god, never happened.

441
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 2: The discussion never happened. New York Times called up, like,

442
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 2: what are you talking about?

443
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 3: You're discussing it.

444
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 2: So, yeah, he made it, he did. He made it

445
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 2: all this press. So one month into his prison's day,

446
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 2: Paul Frampton was willing to now face the truth that

447
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: the real Denise Milani was not in love with him. Yeah.

448
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 2: The prisoners in the Argentine prison had helped him see reality. God,

449
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 2: this is reality, my man. They pointed out that who

450
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: he was chatting with the whole time was probably not

451
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 2: even a woman, and instead with some low level scumbag

452
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: in an organized crime ring. And that's who he'd fallen

453
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: in love with online, and that's who he'd poured his

454
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 2: heart out to. And this is a little bit hard

455
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 2: for the physicists to do the calculations on him. Yeah. Well,

456
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 2: then as the story is coming out, the real Denise Milani, right,

457
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: she gets, you know, interviewed. They're like, what's up with

458
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: the story, the physicists. He goes down, he gets busted

459
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 2: smuggling cocaine. He says, you're his girlfriend. She's like I've

460
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,199
Speaker 2: never met him. I don't know who he is. But

461
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 2: she says, quote, did she feel sympathy for him?

462
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

463
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 2: Right, So then this newspaper story gets published. His fellow

464
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 2: prisoners they bring it to him. They hey, look, your

465
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 2: girlfriend's in the papers. She's talking about you, like she

466
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 2: just said she don't know who you are. Man. He's like,

467
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 2: oh yeah, Well he reads the story and he's like, oh,

468
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 2: so the New York Times comes down, he quotes the

469
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 2: story and he's like, well, I feel sympathy for her too, right,

470
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 2: He's like trying to like reach out, And the New

471
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 2: York Times reporter told the physics professor, well, she's still

472
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,239
Speaker 2: not going to date you. Pole. No, I'm kidding say that.

473
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: I threw that part in there. But anyway, so what

474
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 2: really went down between Paul Frampton and not Denise Belan?

475
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: Yes you want to know?

476
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 3: I am so confused?

477
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: Yes, okay. Well, starting in November twenty eleven, Paul Frampton

478
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 2: was on a dating site maitwe dot com mate maate one. Yeah,

479
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 2: like mate number one, someone exactly you into matan you

480
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 2: like to meet someone to mate. He saw a profile

481
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: of a bikini model. It met his criteria for what

482
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: he was looking for in his next part, the chesty

483
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: bikini model. She had a beguiling smile, warmth in her eyes.

484
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 2: He's like, I bet she might like a physics professor

485
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: like me. He was immediately smitten. And at the time

486
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: he as I said, he was a in the physics

487
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: department at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

488
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 2: He was the chair of the department, and he was

489
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 2: often you know, he'd be at work, obviously he's a chair.

490
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 2: He'd have time to himself. So when he wasn't teaching classes,

491
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 2: he's in his office and he'd get like a notification

492
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 2: sound from his computer bing. He's like could look over

493
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, look it's my baby, and hey

494
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: a click and then be not Denise Malani and she'd

495
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: want to chat all right, and the couple they used

496
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: Yahoo Messenger as many of us have, right, and she'd

497
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: be like, are you there, honey, Just not Denise Mulani

498
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: would text him and she'd be like, what are you

499
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 2: doing now? Not Denise Malani would ping him again, like

500
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: an hour or so later, and he's just like so

501
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 2: pleased by all the attention. Not Denise Malani is giving

502
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: him right, So this attention it's like catn it for

503
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 2: the lonely divorced scientist. So he gets addicted and hook

504
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: and also remember who it's coming from, so it's double

505
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 2: Lee working on him. So this not Denise Mlani. She

506
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 2: starts to open up to him. She confides that she's

507
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 2: looking to move on with her life. She wants to

508
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 2: find a real partner, someone who could love her for

509
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 2: who she is, not what she looks like. She's done

510
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: being a bikini model. She wants to settle down, have

511
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: a family, you know, leave modeling behind. She was tired

512
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: of being an eye magnet for lecherous old men and

513
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 2: an arm charm for young wealthy men. Wanted something for

514
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: Denise right now, not Denise Malaney asked the theoretical physicist,

515
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 2: do you think you could ever be proud of someone

516
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: like me? Now? He told his friends that that he

517
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: would be able to love her just as she was.

518
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I doesn't say she's knocking on the wrong door.

519
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: She's like, do you I want to be loved not

520
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 3: for what I look like. He's like, oh, next.

521
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: But he told his friends he would look past her

522
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: bikini and her breast and see the real woman underneath

523
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 2: all that glamor in spray on tan. He's like, I

524
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 2: see the heart of the Denise, the tissue. So he

525
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 2: he'd ask her. He would ask her to call him

526
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: sometimes because he was like, oh, why don't we get

527
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 2: on the phone and we can talk, and they try

528
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: to set up a time to talk, and coincidentally she

529
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: would just miss the call or she wouldn't be able.

530
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: So part of him we grew a little suspicious. He's like, oh,

531
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: we can never manage to do this.

532
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 3: I just want to talk to her. Jugs.

533
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 2: You need some confirmation those boobs were real. Part of him,

534
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 2: part of him that was suspicious was apparently very and

535
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: underdeveloped because it never really got a hold of the

536
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: rest of him because not when not Denise Malani was

537
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 2: right there going what are you doing right now, darling?

538
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: And she's like, why do we get on a call?

539
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: And she's like, oh, I can't right now. Maybe later.

540
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: Right This doesn't bother him, but eventually he's like, you know,

541
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: I would like to see you. She's like, okay, well

542
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 2: you you should come to see me next time. On

543
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: da da dam My'm modeling. I'm all around the world

544
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 2: that she keeps stalling him. Right. Eventually she's like, oh, darling,

545
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to be in La Pause, Bolivia, and he's like, okay,

546
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: I'll come down to LAPAs, Bolivia, A right, And isn't

547
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 2: that always the way? You're like, hey, we should call

548
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 2: each other sometime. A person's like, yeah, yeah, sure, sure,

549
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: but you know what, how about instead come down to Bolivia? Yeah,

550
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: you know, like, instead of a phone call, just come

551
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: to Bolivia.

552
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 3: Ladies. We've all been there, I.

553
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: Mean how many times? Anyway, the internationally famous bikini model

554
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: she was working, as I said, and according to not

555
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 2: Denise Malani, she thought the theoretical physicist could use a vacation.

556
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: You work so hard for him, so come down and

557
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 2: we can finally meet in person.

558
00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: Right.

559
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: January seventh, twenty twelve, The big day. Paul Frampton sets

560
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: foot on flight to La Pause. At this point, he

561
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: is now a sixty eight year old physicist. He's off

562
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: to meet the bikini model he believes is in love

563
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 2: with him, and why would he doubt if she's texted

564
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: him that she loves him.

565
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: He has it in writing.

566
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: That's like a contract, Elizabeth pretty much. Yeah, so, but

567
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: you know, unfortunately he runs into trouble at the airport.

568
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 2: Not Denise Malani had sent him an e ticket now

569
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 2: to Paul Frampton, but when he attempted to use it,

570
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 2: the ticket was invalid. It didn't work. Yeah, right, surprise.

571
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: So he gets stuck in the Toronto airport for about

572
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: a whole day.

573
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 3: Why is he flying out of Toronto?

574
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: He's flying from like basically I thought he was at UNC.

575
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah he was. I don't know why he was flying

576
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: out of tre Maybe his visiting. Anyway, he goes to Toronto

577
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: and then he goes from Toronto just wait, next stop, Santiego, Chile. Okay, yes, sir.

578
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: After a day in Toronto, he goes to Santiago, Chile,

579
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: and then he manages to get over to La Pause

580
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: after four days. For four days of traveling, four days

581
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: at airport.

582
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: King went from North Carolina at Toronto. Probably had to

583
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: stop over and.

584
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 2: On a ticket that didn't exist until he could then

585
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: buy a ticket. And exactly so he arrives in the

586
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 2: Pause and now he reaches out to not Denise Belani

587
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: to tell her the good news. I finally arrived, right

588
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: and so, but she has some bad news for him.

589
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: Oh my, paud, I had to leave right. So she

590
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: tells him she had to fly back to Europe for

591
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: a modeling job. Right, of course she'll be in Brussels.

592
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: And he's like, I know where Brussels is, and so Brampton,

593
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: he's like a dog after a bone. At this point,

594
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: he's like, I'll get it. I'll get a new ticket

595
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: and I'll fly to Brussels. I can join you there

596
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: in Brussels, and so he goes. He checks in his

597
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: hotel and he's you know, he's like pulls out his

598
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: notebooks and starts working on physics.

599
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: Wait, he's like, I told all the students I've moved

600
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: your class online.

601
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: We're not meaning exactly, pretty much like the classs dismissed

602
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 2: her next weekend until I get back.

603
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: All right, one get on canvas.

604
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, just read a book or something. Read one

605
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: of my papers. Tell me it was good. So he

606
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: tells her. He's like, you know, I'll go back to

607
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: the hotel. I'll work on some stuff. Then you contact

608
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: me and give me all the updates on where I

609
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: should fly, what hotel, blah blah blah. Right, so he

610
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: starts working on his like you know, Higgs Bosons stuff

611
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 2: and then he doesn't hear from Mercy. He texted not

612
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 2: Denise Malani and they make a new plant. She gets

613
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 2: back to him. A second e ticket gets sent to him. Right,

614
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: it's a ticket to Brussels, so at least he's going

615
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: to the right city this time. Yeah, but not Denise

616
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: Malani has the one small request for her little Pooky

617
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: Pie or whatever nickname she Frampton, right, So she says,

618
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: he Pooky, Bye, could you bring me a bag of

619
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: my stuff? And she's like, I just need you before

620
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: you fly to Brussels. And he's like, I left the

621
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 2: bag in the pause. I really need it. And she's like,

622
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: oh are you sure, Lumpia lump why do you need

623
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: this whatever whatever a nickname he called her. I'm making

624
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: him up Elizabeth right, So he goes. He's like, of course,

625
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: what you know you need your your bag? Is it

626
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: like importantly the guess it's has sentimental value to me.

627
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: He's like, okay, no problem. So he goes to pick

628
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: up her forgotten luggage and he contacts a friend of

629
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: his like you know, He's like, I'll do that later today.

630
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: So he's at the airport. He talks to his friend

631
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: of his, who is a physicist and a lawyer, this

632
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: lawyer friend, right, So missus Dixon's son, John Dixon, she's

633
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: listening to her friend's story. And this is John Dixon's account,

634
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: he says, and I told Paul, quote, well inside the suitcase,

635
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: swing into the lining will be cocaine. You're in big trouble.

636
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: Paul said, I'll be careful. I'll make sure there isn't

637
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: cocaine in there, and if there is, I'll ask them

638
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: to remove it. I thought they were probably going to

639
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: kidnap him and torture him to get his money. I

640
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: didn't know he didn't have any money. I said, well,

641
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna be killed, Paul, So whom should I contact

642
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: when you disappear? And he said, you can contact my

643
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: brother and my former wife. So he's being all shaky.

644
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: My god, so his friend and lawyer, John Dixon, he's

645
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: like the Oracle of Delphi the story. And just like

646
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: the Oracle of Delphi, no one listens or they misinterpreted right.

647
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: So a little after a week after he arrived in

648
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: La Pause, Paul meets up with the stranger to get

649
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: the luggage bag for his baby not Denise Malani, right,

650
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: And he meets the stranger on a quote dark street,

651
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: and the bag was brought to him by a young man.

652
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: The luggage was not one would expect for an internationally

653
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: famous model. It wasn't like an rmez bag, it wasn't givon.

654
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: The luggage was just some ratty, plain black carry on

655
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: that you'd see like going around the airport turnstile baggage pickup.

656
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: You're like, whose bag is that? It's got like duct

657
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: tape on it. He's like, just shy of that.

658
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: Wait, where are you talking about my luggage?

659
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: So he wheels this luggage back to his hotel room

660
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: and so assuage that voice of his friend, the physicist lawyer.

661
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: He's like, let me open up this luggage to make

662
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: sure there's no cocaine in here. So he does it.

663
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: He opens up the luggage. It is empty, there's nothing

664
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: inside of it, and he's like, wait, there's nothing inside

665
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: of it.

666
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: But it was it heavy enough that he thought there

667
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: was something inside of it before he opened it. I mean,

668
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: you can tell the difference from an empty suitcase to

669
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: a full suit.

670
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: Sure, but a couple of kilos doesn't weigh that much.

671
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: So if you put a couple of kilos with cocaine

672
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: and an empty suitcase. You may not know that they're

673
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: the difference.

674
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just thinking, how did he not

675
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: know he was handed an empty suitcase? When I get this,

676
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: three fellow.

677
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: He's just a physicist, Elizabeth. Only he can answer this question.

678
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: How did you how did you detect the nothingness in

679
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: the suitcase?

680
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good question. Was it full of dark matter?

681
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: Exactly? Catching on? So anyway, it.

682
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: Got a Higgs boson in it, there's out.

683
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: There's no Higgs bosons, no cocaine knocking inside?

684
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: Are Higgs.

685
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 4: The back of forth?

686
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: But these tell the buns and six packs. It's a

687
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: total problem. You're so annoying. How do I get How do.

688
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: I get my Higgs bosons in the bun?

689
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: How do I get my quantum fields into my general relativity? Anyways?

690
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: Physicist dark matter?

691
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 2: Anyway, So he feels around the empty suitcase. He's like, Okay,

692
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: this is weird. It's an empty suitcase. Why does my baby,

693
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: lumpy lump need an empty suitcase? He writes her. He's like,

694
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: lumpy lump baby, why the empty suitcase? And she's like, oh,

695
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: my peachy pie, don't worry. It has sentiment. That is

696
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: sentimental value to me. I told you this, and he's like, Okay,

697
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: that's good enough for me. Maybe. So the next day

698
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: he packs up for the airport, goes down, carries the

699
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: empty bag.

700
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 3: For her and empty sentimental values.

701
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. My grandfather he gave me that

702
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: luggage after the war.

703
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: That roller bag. That's how he got how he brought.

704
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: It all over mountains. He carried that.

705
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: He is a symbol of bravery.

706
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: He has it down generations to generation. He stuffed some

707
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: dirty clothes in the bag. And he goes down to

708
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: the airport, right, and he's like, Okay, I got my baby,

709
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: not Denise Mlani sentimentally important luggage. I've got my own bag.

710
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: Let's rock, right, and he flies out of La Pause,

711
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: no problems, he checks. But so interestingly, Elizabeth, I forgot

712
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: to tell you he did not fly directly to Brussels instead.

713
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what his deal is on. He just

714
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: loves airports. His ticket goes from flies to Buenos Aires

715
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: in Argentina. Okay, he flew south.

716
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: Sure the other direction.

717
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: I don't get it. Maybe it's South America.

718
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: That's not like I don't know how what flies out

719
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: of la Pause. I would imagine you can get to Europe.

720
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: I'm sure.

721
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure France.

722
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: Anyway.

723
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: So he lands safely in Argentina, and but now he's

724
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: gonna have to wait for a new e ticket from

725
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: not Denise Blani for his connecting flight from Buenos Aires

726
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: up to Brussels. How long do you wait, Elizabeth? How

727
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: long did he wait? Try? Forty hours, a day and

728
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: a half and then some for this airport. Like I said,

729
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: Homie was a dog after a bone. Yeah, exactly. He

730
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: sits up in the buenas Ares airport for damn near

731
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: two days, waiting on I don't know, doing physics problems,

732
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: eating from various airport restaurants, and just sleeping on his luggage.

733
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: New ticket from not Denise Blani. It finally arrives before

734
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: he started day three of the airport. Right, So, Paul

735
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: Frampton this point, he's almost lost his patience. He's already

736
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: contacted friends back home and asked them to get him

737
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: a ticket to fly Hi back to North Carolina. He's like,

738
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: I got students, they've been online for two weeks. Now,

739
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: I've got to do something. But this is when fate

740
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: plays a hand. Elizabeth and I'd like you to close

741
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: your eyes and picture.

742
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: It as closed.

743
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: You are at the Aziza Airport in Buenos Aires.

744
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: Are in cam Hi.

745
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: When this temple to flight opened way back in nineteen

746
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 2: forty nine, it was the third largest airport in the world.

747
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: It was built during the first presidency of Juan Pern.

748
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 2: You know a Vida's husband.

749
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: Huh.

750
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: For me, it's a nice looking airport as far as

751
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: airports go. But as you sit by yourself waiting for

752
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: your flight back to the States, you do one of

753
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: your favorite activities, people watching. Your Spanish isn't the best,

754
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: so you don't always know what's going on, but you

755
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 2: catch sight of a cool looking family. They're all smiles.

756
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 2: The mother huddles or family to the adjacent gate. You

757
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: watch as they seat. You enjoy watching this clearly indigenous family.

758
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: You guess it. They're most likely from the Imara tribe

759
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: in Bolivia. You know this only because they're bedecked in

760
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: traditional Bolivian dress and the mother is wearing one of

761
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: those cool looking bowler hats.

762
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love that.

763
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 2: You casually watch the family get comfortable and the father

764
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 2: breaks out some chapperware and give snacks to the kids.

765
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: A man seated by himself rather close to you catches

766
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: your eye. He's been mostly scribbling in a journal. You

767
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: guess he's a writer, maybe a journalist, maybe a poet.

768
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: Who knows. He looks far more like an aging academic

769
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: of the kind of the science set. He looks like

770
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: a rumpled physics professor, which turns out is exactly what

771
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: he is. Good job, Elizabeth. Next to him are two bags,

772
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: one white, one black. You don't know it and you

773
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: never guess it, but inside one of the bags is

774
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: a life changing amount of cocaine. There's an announcement over

775
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: the airport speakers in Spanish first, then in English. The

776
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: heavily accented pa announcer asked for passenger Paul Frampton to

777
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: come to the ticket counter. You watch the rumpled academic

778
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: look up as if his name was called. Turns out

779
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: his name was called, and then he confirms this by

780
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: getting up and walking over to the airline employee at

781
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: the counter about the gate. You hear him say to

782
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: the woman, I'm Paul Frampton. Is the airline giving me

783
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 2: an upgrade to first class? The woman at the counter

784
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 2: at the gate some houses says, no, you're not to

785
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: get an upgrade. You see them before, Paul Frampton does.

786
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: It looks like a police and dea task force. They

787
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: come in, matching jackets, hats, guns, lots of guns. They

788
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: aim the guns at the physics professor. One Argentine officer

789
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: asks him, are you Paul Frampton. The academic's answers, yeah, yes,

790
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: but what the hell is going on? You now, wonder?

791
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: Totally geeked out on this excellent people watching. This is

792
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: so rare, a police bust in the airport. This Argentine officer,

793
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: he asked the rumpled professor, a second question, is this

794
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: your bag? Mister Frampton? You lean in, waiting to hear

795
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: the answer. You hear the rumpled professor answer. He says,

796
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: that's my bag. The other one's not my bag, but

797
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: I checked it in. That's good enough for the cops.

798
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 2: They arrest the rumble professor right in front of your eyes.

799
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: He's dragged away as he argues in English, no, no stop,

800
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 2: So wait, this is not supposed to happen.

801
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: I'm Paul Frampton, So Elizabeth, yes.

802
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: You don't get to see it. But when the officers

803
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: take the rumpled physics professor into a secluded back area.

804
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: The officers rip open the lining of the baggage and

805
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: they discover more than four pounds of cocayem. Oh wow, yes, Elizabeth,

806
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: do you know what a honeytrap is?

807
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: Yes?

808
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: You do. Well, let's take a little break and after

809
00:36:53,320 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: this we'll get into discussing a honey trap. Elizabeth, I

810
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: teased you before with the honey trap, said, you know

811
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 2: what it is? Do you know what a honeytrap is?

812
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 3: Isn't it when you like lure someone into a con

813
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: with a beautiful lady?

814
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, or basically sex appeal. It can be a man,

815
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: a woman, whoever. You just say, hey, you typically it's

816
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: a woman and you if you bait the trap with

817
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: a woman, it almost never fails. It's kind of the

818
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: same except just a little more colloquially said. So it

819
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: may surprise you, or it may not surprise you. Probably

820
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: not to learn that Paul Frampton was far from the

821
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: first to fall for this long con drug sile muggler move. Yeah,

822
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: there was a woman from New Zealand, Sharon Armstrong. She

823
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: fell home almost the exact same game. She was an executive, smart,

824
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: accomplished woman similar to Paul. She met a new guy online.

825
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: They chatted online for months, then they made a plan

826
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: to meet in person. They would finally meet in person

827
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: in life. She acters, of course, she made a quick

828
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: stop in Buenos Aires to grab some important business papers

829
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: for her lover. So she was arrested at the.

830
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 3: Airport like a dancer at the thunder down under.

831
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 2: But he's got my papers, my very important business papers.

832
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: So she gets messed, five kilos of cocaine, tried, convicted,

833
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: she gets four years, ten months. So yeah, she also

834
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 2: had the same judge in her case as Paul Frampton

835
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: had in his case. Yes, So anyway, sitting in his

836
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: Bueno Satter's prison, it's apparently an old style South American prison.

837
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: On the pavilion that he was staying on, on his level,

838
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: there were seventy nine other prisoners like him. Almost all

839
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: of them claimed that they were innocent, and Paul Frampton

840
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: was just another innocent man in prison with all these

841
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: other innocent men. But that's not how he saw it.

842
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 2: To his way of thinking, he was still someone special,

843
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 2: as he told the New York Times reporter who flew

844
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: down to interview him, quote, some people will say they're innocent,

845
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 2: but when I talked to them further it becomes very

846
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: clear that they were somehow involved. I think people like

847
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: me are less than one percent. He is, So now

848
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: he's less than one percent. He's in an Argentine prison,

849
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 2: and yet he's gone up in the ranking himself. Anyway,

850
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: So his fellow prisoners in prison guards, they used to

851
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: like to tease them, Ay, professor, have you won the

852
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: no bell yet? So the New York Times included that

853
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: they're a little write up on him. I loved that

854
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: note moment, just saying anyway, so please imagine this British born,

855
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: Oxford educated theoretical physics professor sharing a prison pavilion in

856
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: an old South American prison was seventy nine other hardened criminals,

857
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: all from South America, most of them on drug charges.

858
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: Just picture that moment for a second. Let right, He

859
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: liked to get up early on Sunday mornings before his

860
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 2: fellow inmates would awaken, and he put on the classical

861
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: music station and the French Yeah exactly, And then when

862
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: the hard men woke up, they'd switch it back to

863
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 2: a music video channel that played music they wanted to hear.

864
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: Thus was life in prison for Paul. Now, of course,

865
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: plenty of picks of the real Denise Malaney. They would

866
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: make it into prison, and his fellow inmates were sure

867
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: to send them over to Paul, like, look, your girlfriend,

868
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: she's in another.

869
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: Magazines every time she's rough.

870
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was tough on him, so he got to

871
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: see how his girlfriend was doing on the outside.

872
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

873
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: Anyways, before he was convicted and locked up, Paul Frampton

874
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: never thought he'd be found guilty. The trouble for him

875
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: was that the prosecutors had his text messages and his

876
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: chats with not Denise Malani.

877
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

878
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: The trouble was that the theoretic physics professor took the stand.

879
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: And you don't watch TV, Elizabeth, but I do. And

880
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: I know this from law and order. Never take the

881
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: stand if you don't have to, NH.

882
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: Exactly, he took the stand.

883
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: So, according to the Argentine prosecutor, Frampton had sent highly

884
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: questionable text to not Denise Malani. They had his phone

885
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: after all, right, So the prosecutor goes into court and

886
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: he reads out the text to not Denise Malani and

887
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: he's like, quote, on January twenty second, the nine to

888
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: forty six am, you wrote from Aziza Airport to the

889
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: person you understood to be Denise Milani. Quote was worried

890
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 2: only about sniffer dogs, but more so Oh no, thought

891
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: his defense attorney. Yeah yeah, things are not looking good

892
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: for old Paul Shampton. So the prosecutor would read more

893
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: of these text messages aloud, And there was one from

894
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: nine to fifty two in the morning of his airport arrests. Quote,

895
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: need to know if your loyalties with the bad guy

896
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: agent and Bolivian friends or good guy your husband. Oh no.

897
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: There was another damning text from nine to fifty six am.

898
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: It was about the hotel in Brussels where they were

899
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: planning to meet. The hotel was called Seru Elizabeth Siru.

900
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 2: So this Frampton text. Frampton texted not Denise Malani quote

901
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: zero in all caps, right to the hotel. Zero zero

902
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: is ambush a right, that's it. Another at ten fourteen am.

903
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: So now twenty minutes later, quote, your naivete is bad

904
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: for me us this is millions no zero, okay, all

905
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: caps at am. Seriously, he starts winding his own pedal,

906
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: and at eleven nineteen am, sitting there at the airport

907
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: waiting for his flight to finally meet Not Denise Milani,

908
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: Frampton switches it up and sends her an email. He's like,

909
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: you're apparently not getting my text messages, and he directly

910
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: references the cocaine in the email. Always a bad place

911
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: to reference cocaine is in your emails.

912
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 3: This is the email totally. Denise said, no.

913
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: I don't know any email, but he writes, quote, this

914
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: stuff is worth nothing in Bolivia, but millions in Europe.

915
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: You meet me at the airport and we do not

916
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 2: go near the hotel. The agent suggested stay at another hotel.

917
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 3: So he's in yeah.

918
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: This way, it's pretty much clear that he's arranging the

919
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: cocaine deal that he thinks he's doing with, not Denise Mula.

920
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: So it's not like, oh I didn't know my luggage.

921
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, no, no, yeah. He's texting like he's

922
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: in a crime movie and he's looking at for the

923
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: double cross. He's like to convinced. He's like now in heat.

924
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: So he just wants he and his baby to do

925
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: one last deal and then get free together. There's more

926
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: texting emails, so then forty seven am Forramny goes back

927
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: to text messages. He writes, Monday arrival change. You must

928
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 2: not tell the coca goons. So now he actually puts

929
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: in the word Coca. Oh god, yeah, yeah, it's not

930
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: like a band name Coca. You want to see the

931
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 2: Coca Goons, You know your friends, the Cocagoons. Yeah.

932
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: No.

933
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: So twelve sixteen pm he writes in all caps because

934
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: now apparently he's redlining, He writes, why are you ignoring

935
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: me at this last moment, we did not decide how

936
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: to meet tomorrow in Brussels and keep Coca and lives zero.

937
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: We may lose both, not at Zeru brother sitting right

938
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: there in that airport. But barely he calms down because

939
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: at one oh six he then tries to get back

940
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: into her like graces. He's now texting the normal letters,

941
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: not all caps. We may do a cool one million.

942
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 3: So, oh my god.

943
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: The Big Prosecutor asked Frampton to explain his text. He

944
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: told the court that they were just jokes. No, he

945
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: told the New York Times quote, I was trying to

946
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: keep Denise amused. I had already decided to fly back

947
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: to North Carolina. So to keep not Denise Millennia mused,

948
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: he sent her roughly thirty messages and emails. Now it

949
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: seemed very amusing to me. I mean like I laughed, yes.

950
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 4: Card.

951
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: So what was really wild was how Chile was in

952
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: the airport while he's sending all these text messages. He's

953
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 2: got the bag of cocaine, right, and now we know

954
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: he knows is there. The prosecutor played security footage from

955
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: all his time at the airport, so he's the airport

956
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: security camera right and in the foot did you see

957
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: Paul Frampton working at a cafe table. Then he just

958
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: gets up, he wanders away from his open laptop. He's

959
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: leaves on the table next to the two bags. One

960
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: is filled with pounds of cocaine, and he just wanders

961
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 2: away and he's just like, I'll just lead by behind

962
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: my mismatching his and her luggage with the coke, one

963
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: in one without. So he's gone for twenty five minutes.

964
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: He comes back. He's doing windows shopping. He's window shopping.

965
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: He's just sitting there looking in like how much for

966
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: the bottle of rum? And then he's.

967
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 3: Taking that Brookstone neck pillow.

968
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, I want one for her, one for me,

969
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: one for her. Anyway, at twenty five minutes past he

970
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: comes back. He uh checks on his stuff and then

971
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: he's like, you know what I want to go check

972
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: out Brookstone pillow again. Yeah, he goes to another one.

973
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: He's gone for another half an hour. He leaves all

974
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: the stuff behind again. Apparently he's far more trusting than

975
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: anyone I've ever known.

976
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: Really.

977
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a guy. He also apparently believes, like my

978
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: mother does, that God protects fools and children, and he

979
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: ain't a child. So yeah. Anyway, there's a lot of

980
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: other damning evidence in the court case, Like there was

981
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: calculations he had done of how much the kilos of

982
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: cocaine would be worth, and it was in frampton handwriting.

983
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: According to Frampton, he'd done those calculations after he was arrested.

984
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: He was just trying to figure out to calculate the

985
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: street value of the cocaine he was caught smuggling. He

986
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: was just like, I just want to see what I

987
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: was gonna be thrown at me. So I did a couple,

988
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: you know, back of the envelope calculations and the calculations

989
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: like one gram two hundred dollars, two thousand grams, four

990
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. Turns out he was caught with nineteen

991
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty grams cocaine, and the calculations were more

992
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: evidence that quote, my mind works in a strange way.

993
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah it does. Buddy, you're out there calculating. You make

994
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: one is you're taking notes on a criminal conspiracy, right

995
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: like the Stringer Bell rule. You're just broke right off

996
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: the back. And also you're a physicist. Can't you do

997
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: these in your head? I mean you can't you do

998
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: these numbers? That was multiplying by two? Well, one ram

999
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 2: two hundred dollars, two thousand grams, four h two thousand dollars.

1000
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 2: That's multiplying by two.

1001
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 3: Does they have a calculator on his phone?

1002
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: Yes? Anyway, I don't get it anyway. So after he

1003
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: also he decided, you know, mom amusing myself. He calculated

1004
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: the odds that not Denise mulaney would marry him. Oh

1005
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: get no prosecutor quoted than the note he had quote

1006
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: five standard deviations ninety nine point nine nine four percent.

1007
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: Frampton then explained, quote the criterion for the discovery of

1008
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 2: the Higgs boson had to be five standard deviations, which

1009
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: means it's extremely unlikely to be a statistical fluctuation. Yeah.

1010
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: Quote calculating the probability that Denise Malani would become my

1011
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 2: second wife, which was almost a certainty.

1012
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: No, but she's in that point zero zero zero six.

1013
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: So, as I told you, you said that they're all

1014
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: bad jokes. Unsurprisingly, that did not work as a court defense,

1015
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: even in Argentina, which apparently he had very little respect

1016
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: for their court, and the court found him guilty. He

1017
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: sent him to prison, as I've already told you, Elizabeth,

1018
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: and he went four years eight months.

1019
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 3: Wow.

1020
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's where he got to sit and think

1021
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: about all those emails he sent to not denise Malani.

1022
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: How he'd laid out their future together. Naturally, he told

1023
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 2: her that she'd relocate to where he lived, and she'd

1024
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: moved to North Carolina and then they'd make a life

1025
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: together in Chapel Hill. He told the bikini model that

1026
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: she would have to leave all that behind, as she

1027
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: already wanted to, because she'd have to be ready for

1028
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: the wife of a college professor. It's a totally different

1029
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 2: skill set herself. Yeah. She wouldn't have to work, of course,

1030
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: because he had his work, and she could spend her

1031
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: time working out and making girlfriends at the gym or

1032
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: yoga studio or wherever else she decided to keep fit.

1033
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: And when he got home his hard day of calculating

1034
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 2: bosons and leptons, they go down to the shore, maybe

1035
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: take a long walk on the beach. He literally is

1036
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: the guy who likes long walks on the beach, so

1037
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: he was like, what do you like to do? I

1038
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: like long walks on the beach. Eventually, she'scases she would

1039
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: get pregnant with one of their many children, and after

1040
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: she lost the baby weight, maybe she would go back

1041
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 2: to work as a lingerie model. She could get a contract.

1042
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: Was Victoria's secrets, because you know, his mind is in

1043
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: the nineties.

1044
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: So he's like, you know, I just want to stand

1045
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 3: behind him and kick him in the back of the knees,

1046
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: just watch him crumble.

1047
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: At one point, this fake cocaine cowboy, he told the

1048
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: not Denise Malaney, You're the best thing that's happened in

1049
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: my cursed life. I just hope that the scumbag reading

1050
00:47:55,320 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: it on the other was absolutely Hector come here. So

1051
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: eventually the dude gets out of prison, and he'd spent

1052
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: time working on his papers, his calculations because he's a physicist.

1053
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: No no, but he did work on new papers of colleagues.

1054
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: He got some journal papers out of it. He was

1055
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: advising students from his prison. So, yeah, he still had

1056
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 2: one hope in his life that somehow he'd only imagined

1057
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: in his mind that would be proven real by some

1058
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: other scientists experiment and that one day he'd win a

1059
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: Nobel Prize based on one of his predictions. Right, And

1060
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: he'd made plenty of predictions of new particles, all sorts

1061
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 2: of physical models, And he told The New York Times

1062
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: quote that would bring an enormous sense of fulfillment quite

1063
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 2: apart from the Nobel Prize. I predicted a particle that's

1064
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: actually in the universe. Wouldn't that be a rush? Much

1065
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: better than other ways of getting a lot of dopamine? Bro,

1066
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: that's what love does. Love makes you feel like, oh,

1067
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: you know anyway, but anyway. So when one of his

1068
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: emails and not Denise Malani, Paul Frampton wrote, quote, I

1069
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: only think of cuddling all day and having sex all

1070
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: night with Denise Malani. How can you prove that you

1071
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: are Denise Malani. Since he didn't have a fellow scientist

1072
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Speaker 2: to confirm his prediction that she was indeed Denise Malanie,

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Speaker 2: he had to rely on his own mental and emotional calculations.

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Speaker 2: He decided she's real and he was obviously wrong. So

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00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: now he at at one point did contact a forensic

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Speaker 2: linguist to ask him to go over some text messages

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Speaker 2: to prove that he had not written the text messages

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Speaker 2: and because he claimed I quote I didn't write the text.

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Speaker 2: I've always known that they were invented. They were invented

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00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: by or or for the prosecutor in my trial. The

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00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: forensic linguist say he hacked he hired, reported that Frampton's

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00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 2: emails are written in a very formal style and that

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00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: no one would expect a professor to use that sort

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00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: of language in his emails to a not Denise mulaney.

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00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 2: But that was not the case, and quote, approximately six

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00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 2: hundred words of running text, there's only one contraction, which

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00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 2: was in a message he wrote he said, I'll try

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00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: to send you a more specific email tomorrow. The rest

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00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: of the time in his text messages, he's substituting the

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00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: number two for the infinitive too. He's putting in the

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00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: word you for the word you. Didn't seem like him.

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00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: It seemed much more like a text speak from like

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00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 2: a teenager. Then there was also the fact that when

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00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 2: one of the text messages which is member. This is

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00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: a monolingual theoretical physicist. In his text messages, he apparently

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Speaker 2: wrote situ like situation in Spanish with the sea. So

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Speaker 2: that's only something that usually a native Spanish speaker would do. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: the forensic linguist, they went on the whole thing, and

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00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: they say quote. In addition to the above points, I

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Speaker 2: suggest the text message read like a film script. This

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00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: phrase is such as sniffer dogs, the apparent obsession of

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Speaker 2: the writer with loyalty and therefore it's antithesis betrayal, the

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00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 2: danger ergo as in life death, situacion, the reference to

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00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 2: weapons as in with no gun, and I suggest melodramatic

1105
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: want to kiss you before I die. As the linguals

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00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: concluded the quote, the preoccupations inherent these messages, and more importantly,

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00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: the terms in which they are expressed, are not compatible

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Speaker 2: with a person who has spent his life in academia.

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00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: But I mean, it's kind of like the thing I

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Speaker 2: always tell you. If I was gonna go do a crime,

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00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 2: I would just give my phone to a friend and

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Speaker 2: have them walk around with it. Because police are so

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00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: convinced that if they see your phone somewhere, that's you.

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Speaker 2: If I was an academic trying to get away with this,

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00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: I would type like that somebody who's not me. But

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00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 2: I don't bet he he did that. So he said

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00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 2: he blamed the translator. He said that when he said

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00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: he was in court and he said that the text

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00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: messages were his and he was joking. He's like, no,

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00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: that's not what I said. I said the prosecutor and

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00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: must be joking. So that's how you tried to get

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00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: out of it. So he's over here using all of

1123
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: his big brain to try to come up with weird lies. Anyway,

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00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: he chalks up all of it. It didn't work. He

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Speaker 2: decided he's not going to try to go after the

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Speaker 2: prosecutor at Argentina. He said that, you know, quote, the

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00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: whole thing was surreal. Just you know, I'm just gonna say,

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00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: the whole thing was cereal. And he's shocked the whole

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00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: experience up to not his own foolish, ego driven fantasies,

1130
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 2: but rather that the Argentine prosecutor was just out to

1131
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 2: get him. So there's a conspiracy too, as he told

1132
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: The New York Times, quote, you might say, what did

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00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: they have against Paul Frampton? And if you as if

1134
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: you press him, he will add the Argentinian system is

1135
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: totally corrupt. Do you think that the prosecutor is going

1136
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: to admit he created this evidence? Not a chance on Argentina.

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00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 2: That's far less likely than him winning a Nobel prize,

1138
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: And given his choice, Paul Frampton's going to focus on

1139
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 2: that Nobel prize. So there you go, the cocaine tails

1140
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: of the not. Denise Malani, Oh gosh, what's a ridiculous

1141
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: take away, Elizabeth?

1142
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 3: Ridiculous takeaway is that you can be BookSmart, but that's

1143
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 3: street smart, as we all know. And that's street smarts

1144
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 3: for maybe a little bit more important. And I say

1145
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 3: that as an educator, former teacher, I love the former teacher.

1146
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: As a professor. Do you want to say that one

1147
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: more time? Just for the listeners like me?

1148
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 3: Sometimes I think street smarts are a little more important

1149
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: than book smarts.

1150
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: Yes, uph I Burnette, you gotta just say it. That's

1151
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: on the record. Yes, all right, So thanks for listening, folks,

1152
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: and thanks for asking me about my ridiculous takeaway.

1153
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: I really care.

1154
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well mine was you can't always trust a

1155
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: big button to smile. Apparently the same is true for

1156
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: big breasts, So there you go, or a physicist. Yeah,

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00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: so three things we learned today. Anyway, all as always,

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Speaker 2: her hands on it. We also have a website, Ridiculous

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you do when you're not here?

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Speaker 3: I did?

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