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Speaker 1: Excited for this.

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Speaker 2: Taylor's got his dopey USA Baseball had on sala.

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Speaker 1: Is already laughing. He was making fun of him right

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Speaker 2: Cannot believe how into the World Baseball Classic Tailor is.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. I'm with you, sem Yeah.

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Speaker 5: When it comes to Judge and Sodo, Yes, Sales Ego

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Speaker 1: This is like, no, you can't win. I want to win.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's a Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: That he's going to be the best player in Major

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Speaker 6: Red Sox, hey go TUSA, all right.

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Speaker 5: Entering the ninth inning, when Garrett Whitlock came in the

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Speaker 3: Say say, that's exactly my point.

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Speaker 4: Hey, it's not our fault. It's not that we're not

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Speaker 3: Same thing with you.

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Speaker 4: How long you've been hating the Red Sox. It's a

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Speaker 1: No, my stude.

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Speaker 4: My thing is this because you're like, it is crazy

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Speaker 3: Well, you're from New York, so the New York teams

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Speaker 4: It just doesn't happen that way. We're fans of all

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Speaker 3: I don't like that the two have intertwined.

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Speaker 6: The entire European soccer system is set up like this. Oh,

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Speaker 6: It's like it's it's this is a US thing that

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Speaker 1: Really cares, you know, no one cares. Hockey is the

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Speaker 3: But the nineteen eighty thing that was that was patriotic.

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Speaker 4: B it was beating the mighty Russian team that never

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Speaker 4: But since then it's like it's just not the case

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Speaker 1: Taylor put this on the pall the sal hate the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can't believe tailor roots for certain people

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Speaker 1: It's a red he draws the line at red Sox.

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Speaker 3: At least I'm not faking it. He's a fraud.

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Speaker 4: He's wearing the USA hat and saying, you know what,

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Speaker 1: Yes, right, it doesn't care that much, just enough to

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Speaker 7: More's a nice hat though, Yeah, straight hat. Get Trek

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Speaker 7: Scuble out of that dugout. He's talking about he wants

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Speaker 7: trader get tarreka, Google out of here, go.

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Speaker 2: Pitch for the Dominican so South can root for you.

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Speaker 4: Respect him more for prioritizing what he should prioritize his team.

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Speaker 4: That's paying him himself, trying to get a big contract,

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Speaker 4: play again, stude, did you know? Because I did not

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Speaker 4: no one. Aronaudo's at the dish for Team Puerto Rico

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Speaker 4: And you know it's like, well, this is Aeronauto's third

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Speaker 4: You could change teams in the W You see, this

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Speaker 4: Like this is You're supposed to be representing your country, right,

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Speaker 4: I thought, that's the point of this. So Aeronaudo he

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Speaker 1: Like that, how is that possible?

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Speaker 3: Who's representing?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm with you, it seems it doesn't seem to

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Speaker 2: But again, no one fucking cares about this thing except

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Speaker 5: I mean, so, Aeronauto was on Team USA. But I

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Speaker 5: where do I have options? Oh, somebody in my family

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Speaker 5: He's playing for Team USA next time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But once you declare yourself for one country, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Get to hop around. That's not how sports works.

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Speaker 4: Judge can't make Team USA, He's gonna go play on

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Speaker 1: I don't think that is. I don't think Judge has

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Speaker 5: My dad was born and raised in Italy. If the

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Speaker 1: My line is open.

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Speaker 3: He's the manager of Team Ittawa.

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Speaker 1: Your line's open. Huh.

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Speaker 3: They probably could use it. Yeah, that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: Like, okay, great, my parents are from or not my parents,

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Speaker 4: I could play from bold Technically, does that make me

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Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 2: Sala is gonna be the first person to rip one

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Speaker 1: He doesn't shimmy.

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Speaker 4: Actually too, you guys, you and Dan got on me

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Speaker 4: he was taking walks. So yeah, it's not above me

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Speaker 1: What'd you make of everything that transpired yesterday in the NFL?

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Speaker 3: M I don't know, because I think there are too many.

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Speaker 4: I think it's too much happening, and it's because of

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Speaker 1: It's chaos.

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Speaker 3: It's fun to keep up with it and the updates.

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Speaker 3: But nobody talks about that.

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Speaker 4: It's all about the quarterbacks and wide receivers. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 5: So how do you feel about the your Falcons. You

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, I mean they still have Penis. Penix is

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Speaker 1: First.

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Speaker 4: works out. But now whoever gets Tua, they're getting him

444
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Speaker 4: for nothing, and you're getting a guy who's gonna be hungry, motivated,

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Speaker 4: whether he could be a backup, get some opportunities to

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Speaker 4: start whatever. So I think Atlanta made a smart move

447
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Speaker 4: here in the case that Penix isn't ready or still

448
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Speaker 4: needs time to develop. You have a veteran quarterback. Not

449
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Speaker 4: to mention another lefty, I mean, what does that mean

450
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Speaker 4: to lefty quarterbacks?

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Speaker 1: Whatever?

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Speaker 3: Maybe there's something the way that they could teach, help

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Speaker 3: teach Penix a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But they like Tua and his veteran leadership, and I

455
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Speaker 4: think it's for you're not paying him anything and the

456
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Speaker 4: guy can have some success. Tell me this, if you're

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Speaker 4: the idiot Jets, would you rather have Tua this year?

458
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Speaker 4: Or would you rather have Geno Smith and Carson Wentz?

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Speaker 4: Who are the two guys that they're talking about? So?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, my fear is too might win you just

461
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Speaker 2: you know too of many games. You know, he might

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Speaker 2: win your seven, you know, seven or eight games. And

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Speaker 2: I want to be bad and I want to be

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Speaker 2: really bad, you know?

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Speaker 3: But are they are they?

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Speaker 4: And then the moves the Jets made yesterday they trained

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Speaker 4: for mickon fitz micking Fitzpatrick that would and not to

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Speaker 4: mention signing Tomorio Davis as well some other moves like

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Speaker 4: they're trying to build a team that's going to be

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Speaker 4: a somewhat competitive team because at some point they have

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Speaker 4: to start winning some games.

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Speaker 1: Sure, is it a full tank?

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Speaker 3: Are they really trying to really tank? I don't know

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Speaker 3: if that's gonna be the case.

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Speaker 4: And then for what for the hope that you're gonna

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Speaker 4: get arch Manning, as if he would ever come to

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Speaker 4: the Jets, Like.

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Speaker 1: Come on, the Mannings aren't gonna stop.

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Speaker 6: That, right, So it's funny because you were talking about

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Speaker 6: to and you said veteran leadership.

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Speaker 3: Correct me if I'm wrong, But isn't that kind of

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Speaker 3: one of.

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Speaker 6: The biggest knocks against him is everybody was like, oh,

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Speaker 6: shut up whenever he tried to do some time.

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Speaker 1: He was a captain for that team for four seasons,

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Speaker 1: I believe, yeah.

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Speaker 3: But apparently they nobody respected him.

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Speaker 1: They put him as the captain because he's the quarterback. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: but when the play doesn't follow the leadership, it becomes dicey.

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Speaker 1: And that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: Like the year he was the captain and he was

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Speaker 2: playing well and led the NFL in everyone was listening. Yes,

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Speaker 2: second it went the other way, No one paid attention.

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Speaker 3: Right, But also they're not paying him anything, and he's

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Speaker 3: not right.

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Speaker 4: He's not the future quarterball right, So what's the worst

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Speaker 4: that could happen with Atlanta to a start, some it's

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Speaker 4: not gonna be worse than Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: Was the South down here. He is overpaid.

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Speaker 2: The Dolphins made a colossal mistake and they cut bait

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Speaker 2: anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: He's a bargain. He is a bargain by NFL standards.

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Speaker 4: Bingo, which is why the Jets should have been a

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Speaker 4: top the list to try to get him.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if he would have gone to

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Speaker 3: the Jets because he looked at but but he would

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Speaker 3: look at that situation like I can't go.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going there and being asked to win games

509
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Speaker 4: maybe outside door, you know, outdoors, eron Glenn whatever. I

510
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Speaker 4: think it's a perfect situation for both Atlanta and for Tool.

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Speaker 3: But yes, he's a bargain. You say, no, thanks, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Who do you want?

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Speaker 3: Who do you want an under center for the Jets

514
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Speaker 3: this year? Who do you want to watch?

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Speaker 1: Jakobe Brissette? Well, he wants to be bad. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: what is the goal would be Jets in twenty twenty six?

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Speaker 6: What is the goal it is to get you want

518
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Speaker 6: to call it arch Manning, it's there's four or five

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Speaker 6: guys that could be your quarterback of the future. Is

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Speaker 6: in next year's draft, your goal with three first round

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Speaker 6: picks should be that's our goal.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 6: The only thing you have to do with twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: six is build a team that can bring in a

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Speaker 6: guy and he can succeed.

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Speaker 3: I think they're doing a fantastic job of that.

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Speaker 4: But then what if they're so bad that they have

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Speaker 4: to fire Aaron Glenn and now why But now you're

529
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Speaker 4: starting over again? Like the here's the good thing for you,

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Speaker 4: mike Y. You know the Jet fans who feel the

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Speaker 4: same way, Losing won't be a problem. Like that's the

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Speaker 4: one thing the Jets of excel.

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Speaker 1: We're used to it.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean, we're so good at us right?

535
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Speaker 2: But I don't know how to react if they win.

536
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Speaker 2: That's the thing that's going to be the problem.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with my hands when

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Speaker 3: they win.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't you want to get out of that at some

540
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Speaker 4: point and build a competitive team like Kyler Murray to

541
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Speaker 4: mean will give them a chance to at least be

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Speaker 4: competitive and also still have your eye on the quarterback

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Speaker 4: class next year.

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Speaker 2: I Mikey, I will say this before you give the

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Speaker 2: you know, before before you give the patent Jets answer,

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Speaker 2: I will say this, the NFL seems to be shifting

547
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Speaker 2: a little bit when you think about none of those

548
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Speaker 2: big time quarterbacks were in the final four last year.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was Drake May, it was Sam Donald,

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Speaker 2: it was bow Knicks. Just having a good quarterback is

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Speaker 2: good as long as just a round up with the

552
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Speaker 2: right pieces is good enough to win a super Bowl

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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald just proved it, you know.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, So if Sam Donald can win a super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: And also the idea of like, okay, well, Jackson Dark,

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Speaker 4: oh he's the next great?

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Speaker 1: How do we know?

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Speaker 3: How do we know what Jackson like?

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Speaker 4: You just don't know year to year or even even

561
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Speaker 4: worse than Jackson Dart who actually did prove he could

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Speaker 4: have some success at the NFL level. The hope of, well,

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Speaker 4: next year's draft class, next year's draft class, like oh

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, yeah, Arch Manning is gonna be you stared.

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Speaker 4: And Dante Moore, assuming he does want to come out

566
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Speaker 4: and assuming the Jets do, you have the chance to

567
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Speaker 4: take him, like he's a gonna want to come to

568
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Speaker 4: the Jets. What you already proved he didn't want to be.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna come here and be the savior like that.

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Speaker 4: It already has proven. It has not worked. You need

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Speaker 4: to build a team the right way inside out, build

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Speaker 4: a foundation, and then hope to bring in a quarterback

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Speaker 4: that could potentially get you over the top. But if

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Speaker 4: Sam Darnold could win at Super Bowl, then maybe we're a.

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Speaker 3: Little too hung up on the quarterbacks being the be

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Speaker 3: all end all.

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Speaker 5: I still can't get over South saying the best move

578
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Speaker 5: yesterday was the giant side of Hunter.

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Speaker 3: I already forgot the best, but I already forgot his name.

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Speaker 1: But who cares?

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Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, because yesterday it was a bunch of moves,

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Speaker 2: Like I have no idea. You're in Indianapolis. You can't

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Speaker 2: walk around confidently saying, hey, we got better today.

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Speaker 1: You don't know.

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Speaker 4: But that's kind of my point about the excitement question.

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Speaker 4: I think it is fun, right, the fury.

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Speaker 3: Of moves, But it's all like transactions.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, this third linebacker, this guy's a special team.

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Speaker 4: But when you signed definitively first team, will pro punter

590
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Speaker 4: whether I know his name or not, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: He was the best punter in the league a year ago.

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Speaker 4: Also Hardball special teams guy. Also the Giant Special Teams

593
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Speaker 4: has been a train wreck for years.

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Speaker 3: That shows you at least.

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Speaker 4: They'll look at it and say, hey, this is gonna

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Speaker 4: help us compete and win some more football games. Nobody

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Speaker 4: gets you know, it's not a sexy move, but it's

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Speaker 4: a smart football move.

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Speaker 3: I think that was the best signing yesterday.

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Speaker 2: The Salakata Show. Check it out wherever you get your podcast.

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Speaker 2: This is why he can't go on vacation. Do you

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Speaker 2: understand like this was the problem when we talked to

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Speaker 2: him last week coming off vacation.

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Speaker 1: His poor wife, He has all this bottled up.

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Speaker 2: Rage and he needs to get it out, and his

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Speaker 2: wife doesn't want to hear about it, and so.

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Speaker 1: I feel so much terrible for her.

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Speaker 3: I feel much better. Well, God, you don't even know

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Speaker 3: the half of it. Yes, it's been it's been rough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel better now that you're behind the microphone.

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Speaker 1: I mean I do.

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Speaker 4: I feel better being back in the mix, getting off

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Speaker 4: the vacation for a week, which was not really a vacation.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you try to make her happy. And then did

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Speaker 3: I tell you the story, Like midway through the vacation,

616
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Speaker 3: it was supposed to be for the birthday. She's like,

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Speaker 3: this isn't my birthday. There's no no plan. Like, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you could you never win that way.

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Speaker 4: So now I feel good at least I'm winning now,

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Speaker 4: back at work, having fun, talking up with you guys,

621
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Speaker 4: talking sports, getting it out of my system.

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Speaker 3: That's what makes me feel good.

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Speaker 1: Yes, let me explain something to you. She's always winning.

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Speaker 1: You might not know it. She's just she's doing something

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Speaker 1: right now when she's winning.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's been rough, you know. You getting let go

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Speaker 3: from the job. That didn't help either.

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Speaker 4: And that's even when I was what I had multiple jobs,

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Speaker 4: things were a little shaky without that job.

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Speaker 3: It's oh, pressures on.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we were supposed to soften you up, man, I

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Speaker 2: mean you came just guns firing today.

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Speaker 1: You hate the United States. I mean, Jesus right.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say there's a lot of sports going on,

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Speaker 4: but really we're talking about NFL free agency at the WBC.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go d R