Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club morning.
Speaker 1: Everybody is the j n V.
Speaker 2: Jess hilarious, Charlamagne to God, we are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: We got a special guest in the building.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, us representative for New Jerseys eleventh Congressional district
Speaker 2: and she's running for governor, mikey Ryl.
Speaker 3: Welcome, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: And for the record, we're all residence of New Jersey,
Speaker 1: so we will be voting. So, oh, okay, we're having.
Speaker 3: This composition constitu Jersey's been raised it.
Speaker 2: Well, how are you feeling?
Speaker 4: First and foremost, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling very tired,
Speaker 4: but you know, it's just that time. We have twenty
Speaker 4: one days today until the election, so it's that final
Speaker 4: sprint now New Jersey.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say New Jersey transit this morning, finally
Speaker 2: it looks like people can go back to work.
Speaker 4: The strike is over, yes, but the traffic this morning
Speaker 4: was worth so maybe people weren't quite ready to go
Speaker 4: back to their normal transit options. So hopefully hopefully now
Speaker 4: they're there.
Speaker 2: Now, what was your involvement with with the negotiation? Were
Speaker 2: you involved with the negotiations with that were you involved
Speaker 2: with getting that deal done at.
Speaker 5: All, or.
Speaker 3: Yes, I did everything.
Speaker 4: Now I was at my involvement was just constantly touching
Speaker 4: base with NJ Transit and the unions and just saying, look, guys,
Speaker 4: the commuter I mean, this is the commuters can't take it,
Speaker 4: like like, yeah, we got to get people to work,
Speaker 4: and it just you know, you guys are in New Jersey,
Speaker 4: it feels like everything is falling down.
Speaker 3: I mean Newark Airport, airport.
Speaker 4: I mean when you just can't even count on an airport,
Speaker 4: an international airport, one of the most trafficked you know,
Speaker 4: airports in the nation that that can't function, and then
Speaker 4: your train line, I mean, everything just starts to feel
Speaker 4: like it's falling apart.
Speaker 1: Here. You said something other data.
Speaker 5: You know, it's so simple and I can't believe more
Speaker 5: like the officials aren't saying it, but you were criticizing
Speaker 5: the lack of urgency.
Speaker 1: In regards to Newark Airport.
Speaker 5: That's what I've understand, Like, what are we just waiting
Speaker 5: for something bad to happen?
Speaker 4: It appears so because it really the Secretary of Transportation
Speaker 4: just doesn't seem to be.
Speaker 3: Moving on this.
Speaker 4: And again, you know, I'm a former Navy helicopter pilot.
Speaker 4: I've flown in really crowded airspace, So in that DC
Speaker 4: airspace where that helicopter crash happened, I flew through there
Speaker 4: as we were taking people up from Norfolk to the Pentagon.
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you ninety seconds outage and crowded airspace
Speaker 4: where you've got you know, people on visual flight rules
Speaker 4: and then you've got people landing. That's a lifetime. And
Speaker 4: the fact that that's happened more than once. The fact
Speaker 4: that the Secretary of Transportation has canceled his wife's flight
Speaker 4: out of Newark and yet hasn't surged personnel in, hasn't said,
Speaker 4: here's how we're going to make the system more redundant
Speaker 4: so it doesn't keep breaking down.
Speaker 3: Hasn't come up with a plan of attack for this.
Speaker 4: Again, it's just the constant and competence from this administration
Speaker 4: that just not doing the basic work of government is what,
Speaker 4: as much as anything, is just putting everybody at risk.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 5: Also, I was staving from him this morning when he said,
Speaker 5: now is the time to install the state of the art,
Speaker 5: you know, air traffic control system in the Newark. But
Speaker 5: my thing is, like, you're the Secretary of Transportation, Like
Speaker 5: do it? Get it done?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What is he just saying that hoping somebody does it?
Speaker 3: What the hell? I totally agree with you.
Speaker 4: And if that's going to take a minute, what are
Speaker 4: we going to do in the meantime. We can't just say, Okay,
Speaker 4: we're just going to take this airport down for the summer.
Speaker 4: What's the plan until that is installed?
Speaker 1: Is it worth shutting down now? A get right? Now?
Speaker 4: Well no, we don't want to shut down Nework care
Speaker 4: for it. I mean imagine, like just think about Okay,
Speaker 4: people have you know, kids that are graduating, people have
Speaker 4: parents that they have to go see that are sick,
Speaker 4: people have to get aroun be all a business.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a comedian. I travel every weekend. I get
Speaker 6: on the plane and fly somewhere every Friday. So just
Speaker 6: and I don't know, I love Newark normally, Yeah, like
Speaker 6: I do. I go way out of my way not
Speaker 6: to have to fly to JFK.
Speaker 4: Lady. So the idea that somehow we're just going to
Speaker 4: take that out of service, no, we can.
Speaker 3: We got to fix it. We got to fix the problem.
Speaker 5: But in the meantime, like you don't want people to
Speaker 5: die and that's when you know, we had a male
Speaker 5: Brocca here yesterday and he was saying that what this morning,
Speaker 5: and he was saying that people walked off, like you know,
Speaker 5: air traffic controllers left becuse they didn't want to be
Speaker 5: responsible for somebody potentially dying.
Speaker 4: Well, they also in the ninety second delay, I mean,
Speaker 4: air traffic control is really difficult, and they you know
Speaker 4: that that was traumatic to be responsible for people's lives
Speaker 4: to have flights in the air and you can't talk
Speaker 4: to them and just be watching them, you know, as
Speaker 4: you're like crap. So they are now on trauma leave,
Speaker 4: many of them. So they are down twenty percent. And
Speaker 4: then we saw the reporting they're supposed to have eleven
Speaker 4: to fourteen air traffic controllers and they had two or three.
Speaker 4: That makes no sense, it it really doesn't. And this
Speaker 4: is why we need strong democratic governors. I mean, it
Speaker 4: really is why I'm running for governor. It is so
Speaker 4: critically important now because as governor, we need to then
Speaker 4: have partnerships with our colleges and universities that fast track
Speaker 4: people through the air traffic control training and then just
Speaker 4: start to search them in So governors are now having
Speaker 4: to take on the work that traditionally we left to
Speaker 4: the federal government, because this is a federal government in
Speaker 4: free fall.
Speaker 5: So if you were a governor of New Jersey, now
Speaker 5: would I don't know what you did class state of
Speaker 5: emergency at newi Gairport, Like, what would you do?
Speaker 4: So this is the problem as we start to reorient
Speaker 4: our system, right, So what I would do is immediately
Speaker 4: add up a stand up a program so we could
Speaker 4: start to train people, send them to that, fast track
Speaker 4: them through the air Traffic Control school down in Oklahoma,
Speaker 4: get them back as quickly as possible, and start to
Speaker 4: develop this out and have that so that we have
Speaker 4: our own pool of people.
Speaker 3: But again, you don't anticipate.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 4: You don't anticipate that the federal government is just going
Speaker 4: to start abdicating all responsibility for things. So this training
Speaker 4: pipeline would take time to get them trained up. But yes,
Speaker 4: I declare state emerging and get that done quickly as
Speaker 4: quickly as possible, so that we could stand this up
Speaker 4: and at the same time be working towards Okay, what's
Speaker 4: it going to take then? If you are going to
Speaker 4: put in place the equipment that's going to be necessary
Speaker 4: to run these and as you know, how does a
Speaker 4: governor do that. I'm at this point, I am for
Speaker 4: a hugely expansive role for a governor because we can't
Speaker 4: count on our federal government, and that's I make even
Speaker 4: that statement coming out of my sounds crazy.
Speaker 3: But how do we avoid the facts in reality?
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask something that you said earlier. You
Speaker 2: said that you were in the Naval Academy, and at
Speaker 2: the time you were at the Naval Academy, there weren't
Speaker 2: many women at the Naval academy. So what made you
Speaker 2: want to join the Naval academy? And what did you
Speaker 2: think when they banned Maya Angelou's books from the Naval Academy.
Speaker 4: So I wanted to fly from the time I was
Speaker 4: in elementary school. My grandfather was a pilot World War Two,
Speaker 4: and I went to my dad in about the fifth grade,
Speaker 4: said I want to be a pilot. And he said, well,
Speaker 4: that's really expensive. You have to go in the military
Speaker 4: if you want to get that training. And I said, okay,
Speaker 4: I'll go to the Air Force Academy. And my dad goes,
Speaker 4: you don't want to go to the Air Force Academy,
Speaker 4: that's new. You want to go to one of the
Speaker 4: cool ones.
Speaker 3: He said, you want to go to West Point or
Speaker 3: the Naval Academy.
Speaker 4: I said, don't want to fly, because I think the
Speaker 4: Navy flies, because you know, my family, my grandfather was
Speaker 4: in service, but my parents weren't.
Speaker 3: So they said, okay, I'm going to the Naval Academy.
Speaker 4: And he said, well, I don't know if they let
Speaker 4: women go to the Naval Academy. And I think as
Speaker 4: much as my desire to fly, being told that they
Speaker 4: somehow weren't letting women go to the I think as
Speaker 4: much as anything that made me say, well I'm going.
Speaker 3: There, right, I'm doing that.
Speaker 4: And then he said, well, I don't know if they
Speaker 4: let women fly. And so when I went, women in
Speaker 4: the military were sort of like a second class citizenry
Speaker 4: because they weren't able to go into combat. And if
Speaker 4: you're in the United States military, that's a second class role.
Speaker 4: That's the difference between saying like, okay, we're going to
Speaker 4: put you on a destroyer or we're going to put
Speaker 4: you on a hospital ship. Right, who's going to make admiral?
Speaker 4: And so even the role that women there was a
Speaker 4: separate track for women that was called General Unrestricted Line
Speaker 4: girl that was that was.
Speaker 3: The pathway for women.
Speaker 4: So opening up combat to women actually changed everything, and
Speaker 4: so it took time. But the first person, the first
Speaker 4: woman who is the commanding officer of an aircraft carrier,
Speaker 4: came from my class. That would have been unthinkable. In fact,
Speaker 4: the first woman chief of Naval Operations we just had
Speaker 4: Lisa frank Ketty. And when I was at the Naval Academy,
Speaker 4: the Chief of Naval Operations spoke to the Brigade of
Speaker 4: midshipmen and was directly asked, when will women serve on subs?
Speaker 4: His response, not in my lifetime and he got a
Speaker 4: standing ovation from the Breid of Midchimen. So this change
Speaker 4: I saw in my lifetime was amazing and validating because
Speaker 4: none of us want to be treated like crap. Like
Speaker 4: I didn't go to the Naval Academy to be treated
Speaker 4: like crap, so that you know, one day my daughter
Speaker 4: could be treated like crap. Right, you do this because
Speaker 4: you think you're breaking barriers. You think you're making life
Speaker 4: better and setting the table for future generations to do better.
Speaker 4: And that's why you go through some of that. And
Speaker 4: I thought it was working. And now we have this
Speaker 4: president and one of the very first things he did
Speaker 4: was fire the black Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
Speaker 4: c Q. Brown, and the woman chief of Naval Operations.
Speaker 4: That was almost day one. And then he goes after
Speaker 4: the Naval Academy and so he seems to think it's
Speaker 4: more dangerous to read Maya Angelou than Adolf Hitler's mindcom
Speaker 4: and again and again and again, attacking the service of women,
Speaker 4: attacking the service of people of color. And so here
Speaker 4: you feel, so, what have I accomplished? Right, all that fight,
Speaker 4: you know, all that women have gone through, to see
Speaker 4: that momentum, to see it working. I mean, I think
Speaker 4: that's why I was able to become a member of Congress,
Speaker 4: because I had the opportunity to take on roles in
Speaker 4: the military that were seen.
Speaker 3: As powerful roles as opposed to a girl.
Speaker 4: And I think that's what led to me being able
Speaker 4: to compete and have my resume and do this job.
Speaker 4: And so to see all that being attacked in this
Speaker 4: way is really it's really disgusting and it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 5: What about Pete Hexef, you know, a Secretary of Defense.
Speaker 5: He said, I'm straight up just saying we should not
Speaker 5: have women in combat roles.
Speaker 1: It hasn't made us.
Speaker 5: More effective, hasn't made us more lethal, has made fighting
Speaker 5: more complicated.
Speaker 1: He said that on a podcast hosted by son Ryan Oh.
Speaker 4: I sit on the House Arm Services Committee.
Speaker 3: I'm well aware of what that network says.
Speaker 4: And he seems to think that if you can just
Speaker 4: do one hundred push ups that you are ready to lead.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think if there is ever an example
Speaker 4: of why everything he said on that podcast is completely incorrect,
Speaker 4: he is a living.
Speaker 3: Embodiment of that.
Speaker 4: This is a guy who projects tough guy imagery, who
Speaker 4: does his hundred push ups, and who can't lead worth
Speaker 4: I mean, that guy has run more organizations into the
Speaker 4: ground and now he's working to do the same thing
Speaker 4: at the Pentagon. He has put out classified information on
Speaker 4: an unsecure platform in a way that would get like
Speaker 4: a petty officer court martialed. And he's the Secretary of
Speaker 4: Defense and he has no accountability for himself or others.
Speaker 4: And he also said that he just wanted a meritocracy.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking to myself, yeah, me too, me too. I'd
Speaker 4: like to see a meritocracy and not your butt in
Speaker 4: this office. Because he has been the most incompetent secretary
Speaker 4: of defense this nation has ever seen, as he preaches. Oh,
Speaker 4: you know, others can't compete.
Speaker 1: You run of a governor in Jersey.
Speaker 5: What's the first thing you do to show that this
Speaker 5: isn't like like you're just not another politician chasing a title.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that's why I talk about my background. I
Speaker 4: think we've gone through a lot of debates and forms.
Speaker 3: I think my colleagues are a little sick of hearing
Speaker 3: about my background.
Speaker 4: I joke, but I say it all the time because
Speaker 4: I think having that lifetime of service. I tell you,
Speaker 4: I took my first oath at the Constitution when I
Speaker 4: was a teenager.
Speaker 1: So is the Constitution. I feel like we're in a
Speaker 1: most constitutional society.
Speaker 3: I took a note, raised my hand.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 4: But that centers me, and it centers my work, and
Speaker 4: it centers my belief and what this country should be.
Speaker 4: And so uh I talk about that background in the Navy,
Speaker 4: at the US Attorney's office, in Congress and having four kids,
Speaker 4: so I care about the future. I talk about that
Speaker 4: a lot to show people this is not some Johnny
Speaker 4: Come Lately ideal I have that. Suddenly I'm worried about
Speaker 4: x y Z. This is my life's work, and serving
Speaker 4: people is what I love to do and I care
Speaker 4: deeply about and what I and I think I'm pretty
Speaker 4: good at it and can really affect change in a
Speaker 4: powerful way. And that's what I'm running for governor because
Speaker 4: I know, I say, in the Navy, we're trained to
Speaker 4: run to the fight, right and to run to the crisis.
Speaker 4: I think the frontlines of what we've got to do
Speaker 4: in this country that's taking place at the state level.
Speaker 3: It's taking place.
Speaker 4: With powerful democratic governors, expanding state power, figuring out a
Speaker 4: pathway through this As something unforeseen happens, as the President
Speaker 4: of the United States attempts to ruin the economy of
Speaker 4: the United States to enrich himself and attempts to attack
Speaker 4: all of our rights and freedoms, we need strong democratic
Speaker 4: leadership in the state houses. And that's not going to
Speaker 4: be enough. It's not enough to say I'm going to
Speaker 4: fight Trump. That's necessary, but you also have to then
Speaker 4: lay out a path of democratic, competent governance. Because there's
Speaker 4: a lot of people out there that rightly would say, Mikey,
Speaker 4: that's great, I want you to fight Trump, but you're
Speaker 4: also running for governor of the state of New jerse
Speaker 4: and I can't afford anything. Nobody around here can buy
Speaker 4: a house, Nobody can afford their rental prices, Utility costs
Speaker 4: are set to go up, and healthcare is a mess.
Speaker 3: So that's great.
Speaker 4: I want you to fight Trump, but I also want
Speaker 4: you to fight for me and govern And I think
Speaker 4: sometimes as we get drawn into the fight against what
Speaker 4: Trump is doing, we also don't talk about the ways
Speaker 4: in which we're actually envisioning governing in a better path.
Speaker 4: And I think now more than ever, as we see
Speaker 4: this complete and competent some of which we've talked about
Speaker 4: today coming from the federal government, competent democratic government. I
Speaker 4: know that doesn't sound sexy, but that is going to
Speaker 4: be really, really powerful. And so I believe that I
Speaker 4: need to lay out a vision if I'm running for
Speaker 4: governor of two things, how I'm going to protect this
Speaker 4: state against the cast from Washington, but also I need
Speaker 4: to lay out a vision of how your life is
Speaker 4: going to be better because I'm governor. And I think
Speaker 4: that's a piece that sometimes as we get caught up
Speaker 4: in our fears from what the future might hold as
Speaker 4: we take down the Constitution, we don't always talk about
Speaker 4: how we're going to actually impact people on the ground,
Speaker 4: how we're going to impact their lives.
Speaker 2: Talk about, you know, fighting against Trump and going against them.
Speaker 2: But some people will say to get things done, you
Speaker 2: have to work with Trump in his White House somehow,
Speaker 2: some way. So you wouldn't work with Trump and his
Speaker 2: White House at all.
Speaker 4: Look if Duffy comes in here and says, Okay, I'm
Speaker 4: going to work with you to Actually I'm trying to
Speaker 4: think of something that I can say on radio.
Speaker 3: Because unscrew up.
Speaker 1: What you have, what you need the federal government right
Speaker 1: you do as a governor, we.
Speaker 4: Need to find as many pathways as we can. But
Speaker 4: I think when people say they want you to work
Speaker 4: with Trump, because a lot of a lot of people
Speaker 4: say I want my governor to work with Trump, what
Speaker 4: they mean is I want you to stop him from
Speaker 4: doing this crazy stuff. I want you to fix the
Speaker 4: the tariff situation that's making my small business go under.
Speaker 4: I want you to go talk to him because we
Speaker 4: need the Canadians to come to Wildwood because we're a
Speaker 4: tourism industry. I need you to make sure he's not
Speaker 4: arresting a family member of mine in the middle of
Speaker 4: the night without charges. I need you to make sure
Speaker 4: that they're not cutting funds to medicate in the Department
Speaker 4: of Education.
Speaker 3: So I need you to go work with Trump. That
Speaker 3: is fair.
Speaker 4: What's I think a false proposition is if you think
Speaker 4: that by saying, Okay, I'm just going to give up on,
Speaker 4: you know, diversity programs in my state, like I'm not
Speaker 4: going to try to get people in my state to
Speaker 4: succeed that aren't already there because I'm working with Trump.
Speaker 4: That's a false proposition because that's when the bullying starts,
Speaker 4: because that's when it's you know, what I say is
Speaker 4: it's not as if these law firms that have caved
Speaker 4: to Trump, or these schools that have caved to Trump.
Speaker 3: That's not going to be the last ask.
Speaker 4: It's not a one off thing like Okay, I'm in
Speaker 4: a cave today and then he's to leave me alone
Speaker 4: and I'm just going to run my game. That's not
Speaker 4: how that goes. I say, He's like that bully on
Speaker 4: the playground, Right, So you give your lunch money on Monday,
Speaker 4: they're coming back Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 3: No parent says, just give your lunch money, Just work
Speaker 3: with them.
Speaker 4: I mean that no parent has ever said to their
Speaker 4: kid getting bullied on the playground, just work with them,
Speaker 4: just give in.
Speaker 3: That's not how you deal with this.
Speaker 4: And I think it's a false trap to suggest that
Speaker 4: somehow it's the responsibility of a governor to undermine our
Speaker 4: values to get some thing from the federal government. The
Speaker 4: federal government is supposed to be working in service of
Speaker 4: the people this country, not the state government working in
Speaker 4: service of Trump. I think that's a false idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wonder, I'm just asking.
Speaker 5: I wonder how effective it is for you know, officials
Speaker 5: on the state level to kind of, you know, curate
Speaker 5: their care campaigns around being anti Trump, because you're not
Speaker 5: going against Trump on the ballet. You might be going
Speaker 5: against people who support Trump, but I feel like you'll
Speaker 5: be aiming at more the people you're going at on
Speaker 5: the state level.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, I think it's really important again to lay out
Speaker 4: the actual vision on the state level. Like I've gone
Speaker 4: over and over and over all the ways in which
Speaker 4: we can build houses and drive down costs, how we
Speaker 4: need to build out a clean energy future in New
Speaker 4: Jersey that actually increases capacity, drives down cost and drives
Speaker 4: down carbon, fix our broken healthcare system again and again
Speaker 4: and again, because we know people need to hear that.
Speaker 4: And then also pointing out to your point, I think
Speaker 4: that Jack Chittarelli, the Republican, you know, the I think
Speaker 4: the Republican opponent in this race, has basically, according to Trump,
Speaker 4: become one hundred percent Mega. Has said himself he's not
Speaker 4: going to oppose any of Trump's executive orders, so these
Speaker 4: could be things like taking down Social Security, and has
Speaker 4: said that he is going to put in place an
Speaker 4: abortion band and defund Planned Parenthood.
Speaker 3: So I do think it's important.
Speaker 4: To go after the actual people on the ground because
Speaker 4: we know that if Jack Cheddarelli's the next governor, New
Speaker 4: Jersey just becomes a little annex of Washington. So much
Speaker 4: like mar A Lago, we now have Bedminster and that's
Speaker 4: kind of white House two point zero, which is not
Speaker 4: what we need in New Jersey.
Speaker 2: And as governor, what will you do specifically for the
Speaker 2: black and brown community, what are your thoughts and goals
Speaker 2: for our community?
Speaker 4: So I think that comes I mean, I don't want
Speaker 4: to sound like a broken record, but that comes back
Speaker 4: to housing too, largely because that's the number one thing
Speaker 4: I hear from the black and brown community is housing,
Speaker 4: and we know how important it is. I think housing
Speaker 4: is critical to building generational wealth. And I say that
Speaker 4: just looking. You know, even on my own team. One
Speaker 4: of the guys on my team is dad died unexpectedly
Speaker 4: when he was young, and it was their equity and
Speaker 4: their home that save the family as they kind of
Speaker 4: went through that change. So we can see that operating
Speaker 4: on the ground. And we know in New Jersey that
Speaker 4: seventy percent of white families own their own home and
Speaker 4: under forty percent of Black families. So that's why I
Speaker 4: think driving down the cost of housing, but then beefing
Speaker 4: up that first time home buyers program. Right now it's
Speaker 4: at at fifteen thousand to help defray the cost of
Speaker 4: the down payment. But you guys are from Jersey, you
Speaker 4: know that's not going to cut it, right Like with
Speaker 4: cost of housing right now, fifteen thousand is just not
Speaker 4: going to help you afford that home. So that's going
Speaker 4: to be really important. The other issue that comes up
Speaker 4: a lot in the black community's black maternal health. And
Speaker 4: so I held a maternal health roundtable and I was
Speaker 4: talking to a woman who was actually a patient advocate
Speaker 4: in the hospital she was giving birth in and even
Speaker 4: as a patient somebody who helped other patients in the hospital,
Speaker 4: she did not get the care she needed as somebody,
Speaker 4: and you know, she was told, oh, you'll be fine,
Speaker 4: you know this hospital, but she still did not receive
Speaker 4: the care. She had two miscarriages before she took her
Speaker 4: basically took her healthcare into her own hands. And was
Speaker 4: it was, you know, from what she was talking about
Speaker 4: dictating then to doctors, no, I want you to do this, No,
Speaker 4: I want you to do this. But how many people,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not one of them, have the background
Speaker 4: in medical care and.
Speaker 3: Have the access.
Speaker 4: I mean, she worked in a hospital to do that
Speaker 4: to say, Okay, I'm doing all my own research and
Speaker 4: I'm basically becoming, you know, somebody who's well versed in
Speaker 4: medicine so I can take on my own care.
Speaker 3: That's not the normal.
Speaker 4: So that's why I think it's really important to have
Speaker 4: resources pushed in and the.
Speaker 3: Black Caucuses highlighted this.
Speaker 4: And Shavon de Sumpter has worked on this, the First
Speaker 4: Lady of New Jersey has made this a real issue
Speaker 4: and so putting in resources and communities that need care
Speaker 4: like Trent is really important, but it's sort of necessary
Speaker 4: but not sufficient because you can't just build a resource
Speaker 4: center and then keep doing things the same way and
Speaker 4: expect different results. So that's why I think getting dulas
Speaker 4: in and midwives in is important because adula could be
Speaker 4: your advocate all through the birth process. And I really
Speaker 4: you guys seem like really nice guys and maybe are
Speaker 4: really tough. But it's been my experience in the healthcare
Speaker 4: system that women are just a lot tougher.
Speaker 3: And so we go in.
Speaker 1: A last through birth and she salutlates them.
Speaker 4: She's amazing, But women don't advocate for themselves like they
Speaker 4: should in healthcare. So I have learned over time. But
Speaker 4: now I'm in my fifties, like, this was not something
Speaker 4: I was doing in my twenties and thirties. So when
Speaker 4: people say, and when I was giving birth, so people
Speaker 4: say to you, like, what's your pain level? Is it
Speaker 4: one to you know, tens the worst ones the worst?
Speaker 4: And I'm always like, I guess it's like a three.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I've now learned that if I'm going to get any
Speaker 4: attention whatsoever, I'm going to be like it's like a ten.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm always a ten. I'm like, it's a ten.
Speaker 3: They're like I'm like it's a ten.
Speaker 4: Uh huh, Like come on, That's what ADULA can do,
Speaker 4: is like, Okay, this isn't right. You you know, I
Speaker 4: know you can take a lot, but but this isn't
Speaker 4: right and you need more care and I need a
Speaker 4: doctor in here, or you need some anesthesia or you know,
Speaker 4: let's get this going because this is going to get repres.
Speaker 6: They talk for you because you're busy in pain trying
Speaker 6: to give birth. But dulas are expensive too, like they
Speaker 6: they're not affordable for everyone, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So right, So that's why I'm supporting the governor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the governor has a program to have Medicaid cover
Speaker 4: dula's and I think that's really important. And then as governor,
Speaker 4: I'm also going to make sure that we are pushing
Speaker 4: through certified dulas into the system because many hospitals, you know, people,
Speaker 4: it's a change in the system and systems don't like change.
Speaker 4: So making sure that that's and then not stopping there.
Speaker 4: So that helps with the actual birth process. But we
Speaker 4: also know that a lot of things can happen in
Speaker 4: that first year. There's a lot of postpartum depression, for example.
Speaker 4: And and when you know you give birth, it's a really
Speaker 4: weird experience because you're with your ob right before, as
Speaker 4: you're pregnant, you're with this ob kind of NonStop, and
Speaker 4: they're monitoring everything. I mean, you're getting every test known
Speaker 4: to man. Your blood pressure is being taken every minute,
Speaker 4: and you know, I should get really closer there. It
Speaker 4: feels like hourly, right, you're doing all this stuff, and
Speaker 4: so then you give birth and.
Speaker 3: That person just disappears. It's not there. There's god, I've right,
Speaker 3: it's so weird. And suddenly you're asking you're like talking
Speaker 3: to a nurse, you're talking to.
Speaker 4: The pediatrician and you're like, I'm really like and they're like,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, I don't know. They're taking care of the
Speaker 4: baby suddenly. And so if you're struggling, if you're having
Speaker 4: postpartum depression, if you're even starting to hemorrhage in a
Speaker 4: way that you're not sure because you're supposed to have
Speaker 4: some level, all of this is suddenly just on you.
Speaker 4: And so that's why again having the check ins, having
Speaker 4: telehealth so people can do remote monitoring and making sure
Speaker 4: that somebody is keeping out because the thing you do
Speaker 4: when you're depressed, right is you isolate yourself, and so
Speaker 4: you need to make sure or we need to make
Speaker 4: sure that we have people pushing in to say how
Speaker 4: you doing, how are you feeling, have you gone for
Speaker 4: your check? Iup, have you done this? And then some
Speaker 4: of the basic like stuff that's just basic, like here's
Speaker 4: a stroller, get out of the house, you know, here's
Speaker 4: how you do that, or or look, I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: come and I'm gonna help you pack a diaper bag
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna help you get out of the house
Speaker 4: with this newborn, because you know, four kids. By my
Speaker 4: fourth kid, I was like taking a newborn, throw them
Speaker 4: in a baby carrier. I was living in the city
Speaker 4: of the time, throwing them.
Speaker 3: In a baby carrier.
Speaker 4: I had like a couple diapers in my person. I'm
Speaker 4: ready to go that first kid. I mean, I have
Speaker 4: my husband come with me, Pete Jersa, I have this
Speaker 4: huge stroller, I have everything known to me in the
Speaker 4: diaper bag, and I'm like a nervous treck like I
Speaker 4: don't know, you know what am I doing. So having
Speaker 4: somebody kind of say, hey, look I've done this before,
Speaker 4: You're fine this baby's fine, do this, We're okay. You
Speaker 4: know that too, I think is a really important piece
Speaker 4: of this and what many people in this space have
Speaker 4: been advocating for. And so as governor, I'm gonna make
Speaker 4: sure we also have that first year program to make
Speaker 4: sure people are successfully having outcomes to even in the
Speaker 4: first year, not just up to giving birth, but the
Speaker 4: post part of it.
Speaker 5: When you talk about you talk about the housing, the
Speaker 5: black maternal health rate, but you know, you think about Newark,
Speaker 5: you think about Camden, think about Pattison, Like those cities
Speaker 5: have been overlooked by Trenton for years. So how you're
Speaker 5: gonna make sure you're agenda doesn't just serve the suburbs
Speaker 5: and it hits those hoods like Newark, Pattison, and Canden.
Speaker 4: Ironically, Trenton has been overlooked by Trenton for years as well.
Speaker 4: So I think as you're making sure that we're building
Speaker 4: out the state, and really a big agenda of mine
Speaker 4: is to build houses, and by housing, I mean all
Speaker 4: means of property that a person can develop ownership over.
Speaker 4: So as we're building out, I think pushing into places
Speaker 4: like Newark and Patterson and trent and building out like Trenton,
Speaker 4: for example, is a great place to start to build out.
Speaker 4: In their heyday, I think one hundred and ninety thousand
Speaker 4: people now they're down to about eighty thousand, So that's
Speaker 4: a great place to build. They have the capacity which
Speaker 4: a lot of areas of our state don't. You can
Speaker 4: build densely. They have a great transportation system, but that
Speaker 4: you need to push in resources you need to address.
Speaker 4: And each town that you're mentioning has slightly different issues
Speaker 4: that you know would need to be addressed to help
Speaker 4: that town grow and have businesses. So for Trenton, for example,
Speaker 4: a lot of their problem is that it's the only
Speaker 4: business in town is the state, and when state workers
Speaker 4: aren't going to work, then every restaurant goes out of business,
Speaker 4: you know, if they're not working from the state building.
Speaker 4: So the state I think needs to take a strong
Speaker 4: look at like do we need all these office buildings?
Speaker 4: Can we give some of them up for other business development?
Speaker 4: Can we move in because you know, the great thing
Speaker 4: about a lot of our urban areas is that they
Speaker 4: have great transportation, and so really building transit orient and
Speaker 4: development is a great opportunity. But the thing that I
Speaker 4: think we need to do better as we build out
Speaker 4: a lot of these cities is create opportunities for ownership.
Speaker 4: So apartments are really important, right, Like a lot of
Speaker 4: people I lived in apartments when I was young.
Speaker 3: That's great, we need them.
Speaker 4: You know, the cost of rentals is incredibly high here,
Speaker 4: so we need to build more to drive down the cost.
Speaker 4: But we need condos. We need people to be able
Speaker 4: to start to develop that generational wealth.
Speaker 1: You've got to be.
Speaker 5: Able to afford those Like it's thoughts with you know,
Speaker 5: putting some money in the pockets that they can't even
Speaker 5: afford a condo.
Speaker 4: So that's why we have to put That's why the
Speaker 4: First time Homeowner program is so important that we beef
Speaker 4: up so we put money in their pockets so they
Speaker 4: can afford at least the down payment. Building out more
Speaker 4: to supply and demand issue so we can drive down
Speaker 4: the costs. And then also I think making sure that
Speaker 4: we fully fund the Affordable Housing Trust Fund because building
Speaker 4: out some of these places, we have to defray the
Speaker 4: costs because the cost of building here is too high
Speaker 4: and that leads to prices being hiked. And then finally
Speaker 4: we've got to cut through the permitting and regulatory process
Speaker 4: that drives up costs. It prevents building because the cost
Speaker 4: gets so high. So if you look at like Fort Monmouth,
Speaker 4: great place to build out, right, I think they were
Speaker 4: bracked and was it twenty eleven maybe that they that
Speaker 4: they went out a.
Speaker 3: Business of being a base.
Speaker 4: And so we've had programs in place for years that
Speaker 4: we've tried to build out. I think too at least
Speaker 4: two housing programs have fallen under because the permitting just
Speaker 4: took way too long. This is a place that was
Speaker 4: built out, that had housing that we just want to
Speaker 4: repurpose and build denserre housing, and we can't get through
Speaker 4: the permitting process, so that drives up a whole host
Speaker 4: of costs. So that's why the that's why we need
Speaker 4: to drive down the permitting times and the regulatory times,
Speaker 4: but also push in to the Affordable Housing Trust Fund
Speaker 4: to defray the cost of building so we can keep
Speaker 4: those home prices down as well.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the congestion price and how
Speaker 2: it's affecting, especially people from New Jersey, super duper expensive.
Speaker 2: They're saying that it cuts down traffic, but it's cutting
Speaker 2: down a lot of business in the cities. What are
Speaker 2: your thoughts on that, and is there any way to
Speaker 2: maybe follow lawsuit against New York to stop all this bs.
Speaker 4: I am smiling so much because I'm feeling like I'm
Speaker 4: in a safe space because usually when I'm in New
Speaker 4: York and somebody brings up congestion, but they're like, why
Speaker 4: aren't you for congestion pricing, it's so good, I'm like, really,
Speaker 4: in New York, New Yorkers thought, yeah, well, they don't come,
Speaker 4: they don't pay it. They're in New York, They're not
Speaker 4: you know, it's just paying for their transit system.
Speaker 3: I was paying for the MTA.
Speaker 4: But I always tell them, I'm like, look, no governor,
Speaker 4: nobody who wants to be governor of New Jersey could
Speaker 4: ever be for the congestion pricing is it is just
Speaker 4: basically taking money out of New Jerseyan's pockets and putting
Speaker 4: it into New York infrastructure like the MTA.
Speaker 3: And then they're like, well a lot of New Jersey
Speaker 3: and schook the subway.
Speaker 4: I'm like a lot of New Jerseyans take New Jersey transit,
Speaker 4: and a lot more would take New Jersey transit if
Speaker 4: we could run it better, if we had money for it.
Speaker 4: And so the congestion pricing. In my mind, if you
Speaker 4: really want to run a no kidding congestion pricing program
Speaker 4: and you want people off the street, and that's really
Speaker 4: your goal and not just you know, using New Jerseys
Speaker 4: to pay for New York infrastructure, then you put it
Speaker 4: into New Jersey infrastructure, because then if we could run
Speaker 4: buses and trains more often, if they were more reliable,
Speaker 4: then people would take them more and you could get
Speaker 4: people out of cars. But to do it this way,
Speaker 4: to me, is just a cash grab. So I've been
Speaker 4: very opposed to it.
Speaker 5: You think about Lionsgate, you know, coming to New York,
Speaker 5: and you think about Netflix coming to the mond Mouth,
Speaker 5: what do you what do you think that's going to
Speaker 5: do for those communities and how do we have how
Speaker 5: do we make sure the communities are a part of
Speaker 5: all of that money that's going to be generated from
Speaker 5: both of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they provide a bunch of great jobs.
Speaker 4: I think that's you know, that's awesome, And I think
Speaker 4: they're really good jobs for New Jerseyans because so many
Speaker 4: people in New Jersey are in the arts.
Speaker 3: We have.
Speaker 4: I think in my district I have some of the
Speaker 4: most members of Iazzi in the nation. So we have
Speaker 4: just tons of people involved, not just in you know,
Speaker 4: in acting and directing and producing, but also in camera guys,
Speaker 4: and you know, the whole host of jobs that go
Speaker 4: with us, and they're great and they're great union jobs,
Speaker 4: so they really can provide a really good quality of
Speaker 4: life for people. So I think it's awesome that they're coming.
Speaker 4: I'm really a big supporter. But to your point, we
Speaker 4: need to make sure that as we're developing these outwards
Speaker 4: providing pathways. So I was just we had a debate
Speaker 4: not last night, but the night before, and we had
Speaker 4: the debate at the the Donald Payne Technical School in
Speaker 4: Essex County in Newark, and it was amazing.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the kind.
Speaker 4: Of school we need for our kids if they're going
Speaker 4: to get into good jobs. If you guys should go
Speaker 4: look at it, because I was just walking by and
Speaker 4: they have this whole.
Speaker 3: Studio there to.
Speaker 4: Build out, you know, training for these jobs. And so
Speaker 4: what we need to do then if we're going to
Speaker 4: ensure that the people in the towns that they're serving,
Speaker 4: like in Newark, get access to those jobs, making sure
Speaker 4: that those kids that are getting that great training, I mean,
Speaker 4: this is like nothing at Montclair High School, right, it
Speaker 4: was like a huge technical studio looked awesome. We need
Speaker 4: to make sure that we're working with Lionsgate, for example,
Speaker 4: and then walking it back and saying, what are you
Speaker 4: guys going to need. What's the training you're gonna need.
Speaker 4: We're going to develop a program it's going to get
Speaker 4: kids right out of high school if they want into
Speaker 4: jobs right away. And then you know what we want
Speaker 4: to develop in New Jersey and what we are developing
Speaker 4: through our community colleges and other programs. Is this idea
Speaker 4: that you don't graduate from high school and make a
Speaker 4: decision that's going to be like the rest of your life.
Speaker 4: You don't have to decide the rest of your life
Speaker 4: the minute you graduate. So in other words, you can
Speaker 4: either go to college or you can go straight to
Speaker 4: work at Lionsgate because you have the capacity, and then
Speaker 4: maybe you have You get there and you get some
Speaker 4: training and you get a certificate which can be a
Speaker 4: credit at a community college. You can go back to
Speaker 4: the community college for some higher training as you develop
Speaker 4: your career, so that you know, we want to stack
Speaker 4: the degrees because that's.
Speaker 3: What life is now.
Speaker 4: Right, Even if you go and graduate from a four
Speaker 4: year college. The odds of that being like the last
Speaker 4: training you ever get in your life are really low.
Speaker 4: So I think having these options for kids as they graduate,
Speaker 4: and you know, I have four kids. They're all very different.
Speaker 4: Some are more ready to go off to college than others.
Speaker 4: Some are ready to just go off and build things, right,
Speaker 4: and so having that option and then you know, sometimes
Speaker 4: when you go off and build it, you're like the
Speaker 4: people that sort of buildings are kind of entrepreneurs. So
Speaker 4: oftentimes you can see, like you go there and you're like, hush,
Speaker 4: this guy's running this company, but I could run it
Speaker 4: better and I could actually add this to it.
Speaker 3: So if I have the opportunity, you know, so is Essex.
Speaker 4: County Community College training, you know, offering the exact training.
Speaker 4: And we see, like I work with Morris County Community
Speaker 4: the County College of Morris, and we have a lot
Speaker 4: of base manufacturing that goes on. They're high end base manufacturing.
Speaker 4: So they offer these training and they work with the
Speaker 4: manufacturers to get people in and out of those jobs
Speaker 4: and hire and hire degrees.
Speaker 3: So I think that's.
Speaker 4: Exactly what we need to do to make sure to
Speaker 4: your point that those jobs are going to the people
Speaker 4: in Newark. I think that's exactly working directly with them
Speaker 4: to kind of walk back, Okay, exactly what training you want,
Speaker 4: and we're going to train your work for for you
Speaker 4: loved it.
Speaker 5: I was watching the MSNBC, CNN something I forgot which
Speaker 5: what it what it was, and I saw an ad
Speaker 5: they may have a rock and rant about you, and
Speaker 5: it said that you took thirty thousand dollars from Elon
Speaker 5: Musk's campaign fund and that you made millions on the
Speaker 5: stock market, tripling your net worth while you were in Congress,
Speaker 5: and you were fined for unreported trades.
Speaker 1: What do you say to that?
Speaker 3: So, I've never taken money from Elon Musk.
Speaker 1: There were keep you took it and donated to charity.
Speaker 4: People from SpaceX, which was one of his they donate.
Speaker 4: Individuals from SpaceX donated to my campaign, and I yes,
Speaker 4: donated in kind to a food bank because I wanted
Speaker 4: people to know where I stood on it. And I
Speaker 4: have since offered legislation to have Elon Musk drug tested
Speaker 4: and to get them out of dosing everything. But I uh,
Speaker 4: I also don't trade individual stacks. It's been widely reported.
Speaker 4: I've i My husband doesn't trade. We don't trade individual stacks.
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone in congres should, quite frankly, and
Speaker 4: I've been on legislation for that, so I've I don't
Speaker 4: hold individual stacks.
Speaker 5: So when Newsmax claimed that you made seven million dollars
Speaker 5: from stock trades, what are they talking about?
Speaker 4: Newsmax is, first of all, a very questionable organization that
Speaker 4: is paying multiple fines.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what they're talking about.
Speaker 4: I would guess that the root of that would be
Speaker 4: because some of some of my husband's payments from its
Speaker 4: company of minits sacks which are immediately and automatically sold.
Speaker 4: But there is no individual stock trading. It's not as
Speaker 4: if I go sit on the House Arm Service Committee
Speaker 4: and suddenly I'm trading Boeing or something. There's none of that.
Speaker 4: I'm totally out of individual stocks. And I, like I said,
Speaker 4: I think every member of Congress shall be well, did you.
Speaker 1: Make seven million in stock trades at all?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: I I haven't.
Speaker 4: I don't believe I did, but i'd have to go
Speaker 4: see what that was alluding to again.
Speaker 3: What kind of came from?
Speaker 1: It?
Speaker 3: Was a report in the No, I know it's from Newsmax,
Speaker 3: which again.
Speaker 5: I get another one in the Washington Free Beacon, which
Speaker 5: is a conservative leaning platform. But they said, you had
Speaker 5: increased from between seven hundred and thirty three thousand, two
Speaker 5: hundred and nine to oval four million in twenty nineteen
Speaker 5: and then between four million to thirteen million and twenty
Speaker 5: twenty four.
Speaker 1: So that's what he got, the seven million increase the.
Speaker 3: Average they averaged out that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I I both my husband and I come
Speaker 4: from very middle class families. My parents were the first
Speaker 4: in their family to go to college and his were
Speaker 4: both teachers, and then we both went into the military
Speaker 4: and afterwards he got a good.
Speaker 3: Job, and I we've been really lucky.
Speaker 4: I I really deeply feel like this country has provided
Speaker 4: an incredible amount of opportunity to us. And that's why
Speaker 4: I think I feel a response ability to sort of
Speaker 4: pay that forward. And that's why I think opportunity is
Speaker 4: so critically important. And I often when I think about
Speaker 4: what democracy means to me, it means opportunity. And it
Speaker 4: means not just opportunity for me, like Trump might say,
Speaker 4: And it doesn't mean opportunity to enrich myself. It means
Speaker 4: opportunity for the greatest amount of people possible. I think
Speaker 4: that's what democracy at its best offers. I love that
Speaker 4: idea that some political philosophers of democracy have that you
Speaker 4: should create a society so that if you don't know
Speaker 4: how you're going to be born, if you don't know
Speaker 4: if you're going to be a man or a woman,
Speaker 4: a rich or poor, black or white, you have no idea,
Speaker 4: You create a society and then get dropped into it.
Speaker 4: Because if you create that kind of society, then you're
Speaker 4: going to create something that gives everybody the best chance
Speaker 4: at opportunity. And we've had, We've been lucky. And so
Speaker 4: right now what I see is a president in Donald Trump,
Speaker 4: who is trying to stop all opportunities, who's taking you know,
Speaker 4: who's enriched himself and his billionaire cronies, and is continuing
Speaker 4: to try to do that and then pulling up the
Speaker 4: ladder of success behind him. And I see that at
Speaker 4: every level. And that's why to kind of take it
Speaker 4: full circle, I think as democratic governor running a state
Speaker 4: that creates that opportunity, like just with Lionsgate, and creates
Speaker 4: pathways for opportunity pre distribution of wealth, like giving everyone
Speaker 4: that opportunity because we know, like my parents weren't in
Speaker 4: the military. I have to tell you that the kids's
Speaker 4: parents were admirals, Like they knew that system.
Speaker 3: They like they did really well right and all of
Speaker 3: the instructors knew their dad.
Speaker 4: And and so I think creating that that what you're
Speaker 4: doing when you create opportunity and you're trying to create
Speaker 4: generational wealth, is you're creating an opperportunity for not just
Speaker 4: the individual, but that person to then get into a
Speaker 4: good job and then give their kids the kind of
Speaker 4: you know, hey, I'm you know, I'm in this job
Speaker 4: and my buddy is running the summer internship, and I'm
Speaker 4: going to get you a summer internship. You know, that's
Speaker 4: the kind of opportunity we're talking about. And that's what
Speaker 4: I think we have to create in New Jersey. And
Speaker 4: that's the exact opposite of what's happening in Washington. And
Speaker 4: I talk a lot about the military because that's my experience.
Speaker 3: But when I'm telling you.
Speaker 4: That they're doing what they're doing to women, what they're
Speaker 4: doing to people of color, it's again trying to like say,
Speaker 4: these are the people that we see as succeeding, These
Speaker 4: are the people that are on the pathway to success,
Speaker 4: and we're pulling up the ladder for everybody else.
Speaker 1: Well, make I agree. Hold.
Speaker 5: I don't want to be clear though, because I agree
Speaker 5: with what you're saying. But I just want to be
Speaker 5: clear because this ad is running and I'm sure you'll
Speaker 5: be asked about this a million times. You know, if
Speaker 5: you get an opportunity to just clear it up, I
Speaker 5: think you should take it now. It says she made
Speaker 5: millions on the stock market trip her networthwhile in Congress and.
Speaker 1: Was then fined for unreported trade. That true or false?
Speaker 4: So I think we made money from my husband's job.
Speaker 4: He gets paid in stocks. They're automatically sold, so I
Speaker 4: think we made money there. We don't make any individual
Speaker 4: money stock trading. We are out of all individual stacks
Speaker 4: because I want people to know that I'm not somehow
Speaker 4: gaining information and enriching myself because of my work in Congress.
Speaker 3: So that's really important to.
Speaker 4: Me, and I think every member of Congress should do that,
Speaker 4: and I'm on legislation for that because those stacks get
Speaker 4: immediately sold. We do a lot of reporting, and at
Speaker 4: the end of the year, we did an audit of
Speaker 4: our reporting and I found I didn't. The lawyers found
Speaker 4: a stock trade that had been automatically sold, and so
Speaker 4: we self reported it and paid a fine for that.
Speaker 4: But I think that's what that's alluding to. So certainly
Speaker 4: all of this though, I think I'm one of the
Speaker 4: most transparent members because everything you know has been reported,
Speaker 4: and I'm continuing to try to always have transparency there
Speaker 4: because again, I don't want anybody to think that I
Speaker 4: owe anything to anyone other than the people I serve,
Speaker 4: or that I'm somehow enriching myself, because I think people
Speaker 4: have really low faith in government right now. I mean,
Speaker 4: you guys know this, and I think it's really incumbent.
Speaker 4: The standard has always been in my work in public service,
Speaker 4: whether it was in the Navy or at the US
Speaker 4: Attorney's office or in Congress, it's not just impropriety, it's
Speaker 4: even the appearance of impropriety.
Speaker 3: So I try to do.
Speaker 4: Things so that people can can check my work and
Speaker 4: make sure that there's nothing nefarious going on. And so, yeah,
Speaker 4: I was surprised by that attack ad because I was
Speaker 4: with Mayor Baraka at a debate for two and a
Speaker 4: half hours the night before it came out, and he
Speaker 4: hadn't raised any of this, and I would have liked
Speaker 4: an opportunity to sort of discuss it there before that
Speaker 4: at But we're in the final twenty one days, so
Speaker 4: I'm sure things will get spicy, but I'm just really
Speaker 4: working hard to push out what I want to do
Speaker 4: for people and my positive agenda.
Speaker 5: I saw it Amazon poll that had you in the leite,
Speaker 5: but I also saw that same pole said fifty six
Speaker 5: percent of all people in New Jersey in the Democratic
Speaker 5: primary undecided.
Speaker 1: You believe that now you got high?
Speaker 3: No, we have.
Speaker 4: We've been all running really a long time. I think
Speaker 4: Sean Spiller was running like running a campaign this past summer.
Speaker 4: Philip has been in for a long time. So no,
Speaker 4: I don't think there's fifty six percent of the people.
Speaker 4: And there's been a lot before I even got in
Speaker 4: and started spending. I think other candidates have spent about
Speaker 4: forty million in the race, which means and you spend
Speaker 4: money to communicate, So people have been communicating heavily in
Speaker 4: this race. If you guys are even if you're in Manhattan,
Speaker 4: you've pbably seen the commercials, So I don't. I haven't
Speaker 4: seen pulling other polling that suggests that seems.
Speaker 5: Really high to the Emerson College Ford. That's what the
Speaker 5: band said too. He said he feels like the pole.
Speaker 1: What did you say? I forgot how what he said?
Speaker 1: You feel like the poll was off? Basically, he said
Speaker 1: it was off. Basic.
Speaker 2: Look, I wanted to ask what makes you different than
Speaker 2: the other opponents running against you and why should people
Speaker 2: vote for you?
Speaker 4: I want to be snarky because I'm the only woman
Speaker 4: messages in the medium. No, Look, I really think it
Speaker 4: is incredibly important that we have a democratic governor in
Speaker 4: our state that not only can push back against what's
Speaker 4: going on in why Washington and has federal experience to
Speaker 4: do just that. And you know the fact that I'm
Speaker 4: also former federal prosecutor. Understanding what people like Alena Haba
Speaker 4: are doing right now and the ways that the federal
Speaker 4: government's acting to undermine rights and freedoms is really important.
Speaker 4: And the way they're acting to take away Medicaid and
Speaker 4: Department of Education funding and understanding what's going on there
Speaker 4: is really important. But I also think having an agenda
Speaker 4: to actually make change in the state, Having somebody like
Speaker 4: myself who comes from a little bit of a different
Speaker 4: background than a career politician.
Speaker 3: I think that's really important.
Speaker 4: Right now because I like to say that there's the
Speaker 4: right way, the wrong way, in the New Jersey way,
Speaker 4: and too many people are like stuck in the New
Speaker 4: Jersey way. Like even when I hear people talk about,
Speaker 4: you know, building houses or driving down utility costs, they
Speaker 4: keep talking about it in the framework of well, this
Speaker 4: is the frame and place and this is why it's
Speaker 4: going to be impossible, or this is why it's going
Speaker 4: to be so hard, or this is why we can't
Speaker 4: do it, And that just drives me insane because how
Speaker 4: is there a world where we can't get permitting down
Speaker 4: less than four years to build a house? That does
Speaker 4: not make sense and it doesn't happen in other places,
Speaker 4: and we know we can do better. So I think
Speaker 4: having a different kind of leadership to cut through the
Speaker 4: status quote, to take on entrenched interest, which I think
Speaker 4: I have a really good capability of doing because I'm
Speaker 4: not from like entrenched politics in the state. I come
Speaker 4: from a different type of place. I come from a
Speaker 4: proactive place in the military. I've got four kids, so
Speaker 4: it's not going to be enough for me to sort
Speaker 4: of make a little change around the edges because their
Speaker 4: future is at stake, and their future feels really tenuous
Speaker 4: right now to me. So fighting for my kids, fighting
Speaker 4: for everyone's kids is incredibly important, and I think that's
Speaker 4: a different kind of approach and leadership than anyone else
Speaker 4: in the race offers.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you for joining us this morning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you got to come back before Joe.
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate you. Guys.
Speaker 5: If you do win and become, you know, governor, like
Speaker 5: I think that you should use platforms like this to
Speaker 5: talk directly to the people on the regular that affects.
Speaker 4: Yes, I just know I'll be too important.
Speaker 1: I believe you. I believe.
Speaker 4: I will make a commitment right now if I become governor,
Speaker 4: I will be back on your show if invited.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I don't know why you're worry about the traffic.
Speaker 2: You were a helicopter, you might as just fly to helicopters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: Mikey Sharrell. Ladies and gentlemen, she's running for governor. Get
Speaker 2: out there and voters to Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club