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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club morning.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is the j n V.

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Speaker 2: Jess hilarious, Charlamagne to God, we are the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: We got a special guest in the building.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, us representative for New Jerseys eleventh Congressional district

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Speaker 2: and she's running for governor, mikey Ryl.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: And for the record, we're all residence of New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: so we will be voting. So, oh, okay, we're having.

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Speaker 3: This composition constitu Jersey's been raised it.

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Speaker 2: Well, how are you feeling?

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Speaker 4: First and foremost, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling very tired,

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Speaker 4: but you know, it's just that time. We have twenty

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Speaker 4: one days today until the election, so it's that final

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Speaker 4: sprint now New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say New Jersey transit this morning, finally

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Speaker 2: it looks like people can go back to work.

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Speaker 4: The strike is over, yes, but the traffic this morning

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Speaker 4: was worth so maybe people weren't quite ready to go

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Speaker 4: back to their normal transit options. So hopefully hopefully now

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Speaker 4: they're there.

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Speaker 2: Now, what was your involvement with with the negotiation? Were

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Speaker 2: you involved with the negotiations with that were you involved

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Speaker 2: with getting that deal done at.

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Speaker 5: All, or.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I did everything.

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Speaker 4: Now I was at my involvement was just constantly touching

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Speaker 4: base with NJ Transit and the unions and just saying, look, guys,

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Speaker 4: the commuter I mean, this is the commuters can't take it,

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Speaker 4: like like, yeah, we got to get people to work,

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Speaker 4: and it just you know, you guys are in New Jersey,

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Speaker 4: it feels like everything is falling down.

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Speaker 3: I mean Newark Airport, airport.

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Speaker 4: I mean when you just can't even count on an airport,

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Speaker 4: an international airport, one of the most trafficked you know,

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Speaker 4: airports in the nation that that can't function, and then

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Speaker 4: your train line, I mean, everything just starts to feel

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Speaker 4: like it's falling apart.

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Speaker 1: Here. You said something other data.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's so simple and I can't believe more

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Speaker 5: like the officials aren't saying it, but you were criticizing

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Speaker 5: the lack of urgency.

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Speaker 1: In regards to Newark Airport.

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Speaker 5: That's what I've understand, Like, what are we just waiting

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Speaker 5: for something bad to happen?

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Speaker 4: It appears so because it really the Secretary of Transportation

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Speaker 4: just doesn't seem to be.

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Speaker 3: Moving on this.

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Speaker 4: And again, you know, I'm a former Navy helicopter pilot.

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Speaker 4: I've flown in really crowded airspace, So in that DC

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Speaker 4: airspace where that helicopter crash happened, I flew through there

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Speaker 4: as we were taking people up from Norfolk to the Pentagon.

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Speaker 4: And I'm telling you ninety seconds outage and crowded airspace

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Speaker 4: where you've got you know, people on visual flight rules

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Speaker 4: and then you've got people landing. That's a lifetime. And

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Speaker 4: the fact that that's happened more than once. The fact

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Speaker 4: that the Secretary of Transportation has canceled his wife's flight

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Speaker 4: out of Newark and yet hasn't surged personnel in, hasn't said,

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Speaker 4: here's how we're going to make the system more redundant

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Speaker 4: so it doesn't keep breaking down.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't come up with a plan of attack for this.

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Speaker 4: Again, it's just the constant and competence from this administration

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Speaker 4: that just not doing the basic work of government is what,

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Speaker 4: as much as anything, is just putting everybody at risk.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 5: Also, I was staving from him this morning when he said,

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Speaker 5: now is the time to install the state of the art,

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Speaker 5: you know, air traffic control system in the Newark. But

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Speaker 5: my thing is, like, you're the Secretary of Transportation, Like

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Speaker 5: do it? Get it done?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What is he just saying that hoping somebody does it?

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Speaker 3: What the hell? I totally agree with you.

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Speaker 4: And if that's going to take a minute, what are

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Speaker 4: we going to do in the meantime. We can't just say, Okay,

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Speaker 4: we're just going to take this airport down for the summer.

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Speaker 4: What's the plan until that is installed?

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Speaker 1: Is it worth shutting down now? A get right? Now?

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Speaker 4: Well no, we don't want to shut down Nework care

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Speaker 4: for it. I mean imagine, like just think about Okay,

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Speaker 4: people have you know, kids that are graduating, people have

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a comedian. I travel every weekend. I get

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Speaker 6: on the plane and fly somewhere every Friday. So just

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Speaker 6: and I don't know, I love Newark normally, Yeah, like

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Speaker 4: Lady. So the idea that somehow we're just going to

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Speaker 4: take that out of service, no, we can.

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Speaker 3: We got to fix it. We got to fix the problem.

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Speaker 5: But in the meantime, like you don't want people to

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Speaker 5: die and that's when you know, we had a male

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Speaker 5: and he was saying that people walked off, like you know,

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Speaker 5: air traffic controllers left becuse they didn't want to be

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Speaker 5: responsible for somebody potentially dying.

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Speaker 4: Well, they also in the ninety second delay, I mean,

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Speaker 4: air traffic control is really difficult, and they you know

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Speaker 4: that that was traumatic to be responsible for people's lives

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Speaker 4: to have flights in the air and you can't talk

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Speaker 4: many of them. So they are down twenty percent. And

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Speaker 4: then we saw the reporting they're supposed to have eleven

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Speaker 4: That makes no sense, it it really doesn't. And this

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Speaker 4: is why we need strong democratic governors. I mean, it

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Speaker 4: really is why I'm running for governor. It is so

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Speaker 4: critically important now because as governor, we need to then

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Speaker 4: have partnerships with our colleges and universities that fast track

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Speaker 4: people through the air traffic control training and then just

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Speaker 4: start to search them in So governors are now having

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Speaker 4: to take on the work that traditionally we left to

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Speaker 4: the federal government, because this is a federal government in

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Speaker 4: free fall.

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Speaker 5: So if you were a governor of New Jersey, now

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Speaker 4: So this is the problem as we start to reorient

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Speaker 4: our system, right, So what I would do is immediately

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Speaker 4: start to train people, send them to that, fast track

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Speaker 4: them through the air Traffic Control school down in Oklahoma,

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Speaker 4: get them back as quickly as possible, and start to

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Speaker 3: But again, you don't anticipate.

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Speaker 5: That.

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Speaker 4: You don't anticipate that the federal government is just going

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Speaker 4: to start abdicating all responsibility for things. So this training

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Speaker 4: pipeline would take time to get them trained up. But yes,

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Speaker 4: a hugely expansive role for a governor because we can't

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Speaker 4: count on our federal government, and that's I make even

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Speaker 4: that statement coming out of my sounds crazy.

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Speaker 3: But how do we avoid the facts in reality?

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask something that you said earlier. You

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Speaker 2: said that you were in the Naval Academy, and at

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Speaker 2: the time you were at the Naval Academy, there weren't

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Speaker 2: many women at the Naval academy. So what made you

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Speaker 2: want to join the Naval academy? And what did you

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Speaker 2: think when they banned Maya Angelou's books from the Naval Academy.

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Speaker 4: So I wanted to fly from the time I was

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Speaker 4: in elementary school. My grandfather was a pilot World War Two,

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Speaker 4: if you want to get that training. And I said, okay,

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Speaker 4: I'll go to the Air Force Academy. And my dad goes,

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Speaker 4: you don't want to go to the Air Force Academy,

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Speaker 3: He said, you want to go to West Point or

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Speaker 4: I said, don't want to fly, because I think the

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Speaker 3: So they said, okay, I'm going to the Naval Academy.

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Speaker 4: And he said, well, I don't know if they let

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Speaker 3: There, right, I'm doing that.

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Speaker 4: And then he said, well, I don't know if they

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Speaker 4: That's the difference between saying like, okay, we're going to

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Speaker 4: And so even the role that women there was a

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Speaker 4: So opening up combat to women actually changed everything, and

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Speaker 4: came from my class. That would have been unthinkable. In fact,

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Speaker 4: I didn't go to the Naval Academy to be treated

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Speaker 4: And that's why you go through some of that. And

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Speaker 4: That was almost day one. And then he goes after

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Speaker 4: more dangerous to read Maya Angelou than Adolf Hitler's mindcom

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Speaker 4: and again and again and again, attacking the service of women,

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Speaker 4: you feel, so, what have I accomplished? Right, all that fight,

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Speaker 4: because I had the opportunity to take on roles in

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Speaker 4: And I think that's what led to me being able

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Speaker 4: And so to see all that being attacked in this

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Speaker 5: What's the first thing you do to show that this

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Speaker 3: It's taking place.

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Speaker 4: With powerful democratic governors, expanding state power, figuring out a

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Speaker 4: I want you to fight Trump, but I also want

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Speaker 4: And I think now more than ever, as we see

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Speaker 4: governor of two things, how I'm going to protect this

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Speaker 2: Talk about, you know, fighting against Trump and going against them.

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Speaker 2: But some people will say to get things done, you

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Speaker 4: Look if Duffy comes in here and says, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 3: Because unscrew up.

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Speaker 1: What you have, what you need the federal government right

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Speaker 4: Need to find as many pathways as we can. But

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Speaker 4: I think when people say they want you to work

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Speaker 4: say I want my governor to work with Trump, what

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Speaker 4: they mean is I want you to stop him from

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Speaker 4: the tariff situation that's making my small business go under.

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Speaker 3: So I need you to go work with Trump. That

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Speaker 4: What's I think a false proposition is if you think

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Speaker 4: That's a false proposition because that's when the bullying starts,

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Speaker 4: because that's when it's you know, what I say is

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Speaker 3: That's not going to be the last ask.

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Speaker 4: It's not a one off thing like Okay, I'm in

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Speaker 4: and I'm just going to run my game. That's not

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Speaker 4: how that goes. I say, He's like that bully on

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Speaker 3: No parent says, just give your lunch money, Just work

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Speaker 4: I mean that no parent has ever said to their

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Speaker 3: That's not how you deal with this.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's a false trap to suggest that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wonder, I'm just asking.

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Speaker 5: I wonder how effective it is for you know, officials

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, I think it's really important again to lay out

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Speaker 4: And then also pointing out to your point, I think

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Speaker 3: So I do think it's important.

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Speaker 2: And as governor, what will you do specifically for the

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Speaker 4: So I think that comes I mean, I don't want

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Speaker 4: basically took her healthcare into her own hands. And was

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Speaker 4: it was, you know, from what she was talking about

444
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 4: dictating then to doctors, no, I want you to do this, No,

445
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 4: I want you to do this. But how many people,

446
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not one of them, have the background

447
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 4: in medical care and.

448
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 3: Have the access.

449
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 4: I mean, she worked in a hospital to do that

450
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 4: to say, Okay, I'm doing all my own research and

451
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 4: I'm basically becoming, you know, somebody who's well versed in

452
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 4: medicine so I can take on my own care.

453
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Speaker 3: That's not the normal.

454
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Speaker 4: So that's why I think it's really important to have

455
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Speaker 4: resources pushed in and the.

456
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Speaker 3: Black Caucuses highlighted this.

457
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Speaker 4: And Shavon de Sumpter has worked on this, the First

458
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 4: Lady of New Jersey has made this a real issue

459
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 4: and so putting in resources and communities that need care

460
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 4: like Trent is really important, but it's sort of necessary

461
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 4: but not sufficient because you can't just build a resource

462
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 4: center and then keep doing things the same way and

463
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 4: expect different results. So that's why I think getting dulas

464
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: in and midwives in is important because adula could be

465
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 4: your advocate all through the birth process. And I really

466
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 4: you guys seem like really nice guys and maybe are

467
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 4: really tough. But it's been my experience in the healthcare

468
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 4: system that women are just a lot tougher.

469
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Speaker 3: And so we go in.

470
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Speaker 1: A last through birth and she salutlates them.

471
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Speaker 4: She's amazing, But women don't advocate for themselves like they

472
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 4: should in healthcare. So I have learned over time. But

473
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 4: now I'm in my fifties, like, this was not something

474
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 4: I was doing in my twenties and thirties. So when

475
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 4: people say, and when I was giving birth, so people

476
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 4: say to you, like, what's your pain level? Is it

477
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 4: one to you know, tens the worst ones the worst?

478
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 4: And I'm always like, I guess it's like a three.

479
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Speaker 3: You know.

480
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 4: I've now learned that if I'm going to get any

481
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 4: attention whatsoever, I'm going to be like it's like a ten.

482
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm always a ten. I'm like, it's a ten.

483
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: They're like I'm like it's a ten.

484
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 4: Uh huh, Like come on, That's what ADULA can do,

485
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 4: is like, Okay, this isn't right. You you know, I

486
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 4: know you can take a lot, but but this isn't

487
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 4: right and you need more care and I need a

488
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 4: doctor in here, or you need some anesthesia or you know,

489
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 4: let's get this going because this is going to get repres.

490
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Speaker 6: They talk for you because you're busy in pain trying

491
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 6: to give birth. But dulas are expensive too, like they

492
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 6: they're not affordable for everyone, you know what I mean.

493
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Speaker 3: So right, So that's why I'm supporting the governor.

494
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, the governor has a program to have Medicaid cover

495
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 4: dula's and I think that's really important. And then as governor,

496
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 4: I'm also going to make sure that we are pushing

497
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 4: through certified dulas into the system because many hospitals, you know, people,

498
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 4: it's a change in the system and systems don't like change.

499
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 4: So making sure that that's and then not stopping there.

500
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 4: So that helps with the actual birth process. But we

501
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 4: also know that a lot of things can happen in

502
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 4: that first year. There's a lot of postpartum depression, for example.

503
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 4: And and when you know you give birth, it's a really

504
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 4: weird experience because you're with your ob right before, as

505
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 4: you're pregnant, you're with this ob kind of NonStop, and

506
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 4: they're monitoring everything. I mean, you're getting every test known

507
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 4: to man. Your blood pressure is being taken every minute,

508
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 4: and you know, I should get really closer there. It

509
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 4: feels like hourly, right, you're doing all this stuff, and

510
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 4: so then you give birth and.

511
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 3: That person just disappears. It's not there. There's god, I've right,

512
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 3: it's so weird. And suddenly you're asking you're like talking

513
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 3: to a nurse, you're talking to.

514
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 4: The pediatrician and you're like, I'm really like and they're like,

515
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 4: oh yeah, I don't know. They're taking care of the

516
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 4: baby suddenly. And so if you're struggling, if you're having

517
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 4: postpartum depression, if you're even starting to hemorrhage in a

518
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 4: way that you're not sure because you're supposed to have

519
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 4: some level, all of this is suddenly just on you.

520
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 4: And so that's why again having the check ins, having

521
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 4: telehealth so people can do remote monitoring and making sure

522
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 4: that somebody is keeping out because the thing you do

523
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 4: when you're depressed, right is you isolate yourself, and so

524
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 4: you need to make sure or we need to make

525
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: sure that we have people pushing in to say how

526
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 4: you doing, how are you feeling, have you gone for

527
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 4: your check? Iup, have you done this? And then some

528
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 4: of the basic like stuff that's just basic, like here's

529
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: a stroller, get out of the house, you know, here's

530
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 4: how you do that, or or look, I'm just gonna

531
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 4: come and I'm gonna help you pack a diaper bag

532
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna help you get out of the house

533
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 4: with this newborn, because you know, four kids. By my

534
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 4: fourth kid, I was like taking a newborn, throw them

535
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 4: in a baby carrier. I was living in the city

536
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 4: of the time, throwing them.

537
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: In a baby carrier.

538
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 4: I had like a couple diapers in my person. I'm

539
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 4: ready to go that first kid. I mean, I have

540
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 4: my husband come with me, Pete Jersa, I have this

541
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 4: huge stroller, I have everything known to me in the

542
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 4: diaper bag, and I'm like a nervous treck like I

543
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 4: don't know, you know what am I doing. So having

544
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: somebody kind of say, hey, look I've done this before,

545
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 4: You're fine this baby's fine, do this, We're okay. You

546
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 4: know that too, I think is a really important piece

547
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 4: of this and what many people in this space have

548
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: been advocating for. And so as governor, I'm gonna make

549
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 4: sure we also have that first year program to make

550
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 4: sure people are successfully having outcomes to even in the

551
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 4: first year, not just up to giving birth, but the

552
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 4: post part of it.

553
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 5: When you talk about you talk about the housing, the

554
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 5: black maternal health rate, but you know, you think about Newark,

555
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 5: you think about Camden, think about Pattison, Like those cities

556
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 5: have been overlooked by Trenton for years. So how you're

557
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 5: gonna make sure you're agenda doesn't just serve the suburbs

558
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 5: and it hits those hoods like Newark, Pattison, and Canden.

559
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 4: Ironically, Trenton has been overlooked by Trenton for years as well.

560
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: So I think as you're making sure that we're building

561
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 4: out the state, and really a big agenda of mine

562
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: is to build houses, and by housing, I mean all

563
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 4: means of property that a person can develop ownership over.

564
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 4: So as we're building out, I think pushing into places

565
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 4: like Newark and Patterson and trent and building out like Trenton,

566
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: for example, is a great place to start to build out.

567
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 4: In their heyday, I think one hundred and ninety thousand

568
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 4: people now they're down to about eighty thousand, So that's

569
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 4: a great place to build. They have the capacity which

570
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 4: a lot of areas of our state don't. You can

571
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 4: build densely. They have a great transportation system, but that

572
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: you need to push in resources you need to address.

573
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 4: And each town that you're mentioning has slightly different issues

574
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: that you know would need to be addressed to help

575
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 4: that town grow and have businesses. So for Trenton, for example,

576
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 4: a lot of their problem is that it's the only

577
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 4: business in town is the state, and when state workers

578
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 4: aren't going to work, then every restaurant goes out of business,

579
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: you know, if they're not working from the state building.

580
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: So the state I think needs to take a strong

581
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: look at like do we need all these office buildings?

582
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: Can we give some of them up for other business development?

583
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 4: Can we move in because you know, the great thing

584
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: about a lot of our urban areas is that they

585
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: have great transportation, and so really building transit orient and

586
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 4: development is a great opportunity. But the thing that I

587
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 4: think we need to do better as we build out

588
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: a lot of these cities is create opportunities for ownership.

589
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: So apartments are really important, right, Like a lot of

590
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 4: people I lived in apartments when I was young.

591
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: That's great, we need them.

592
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: You know, the cost of rentals is incredibly high here,

593
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 4: so we need to build more to drive down the cost.

594
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 4: But we need condos. We need people to be able

595
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 4: to start to develop that generational wealth.

596
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: You've got to be.

597
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 5: Able to afford those Like it's thoughts with you know,

598
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 5: putting some money in the pockets that they can't even

599
00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 5: afford a condo.

600
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Speaker 4: So that's why we have to put That's why the

601
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 4: First time Homeowner program is so important that we beef

602
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 4: up so we put money in their pockets so they

603
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 4: can afford at least the down payment. Building out more

604
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: to supply and demand issue so we can drive down

605
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 4: the costs. And then also I think making sure that

606
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 4: we fully fund the Affordable Housing Trust Fund because building

607
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 4: out some of these places, we have to defray the

608
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 4: costs because the cost of building here is too high

609
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 4: and that leads to prices being hiked. And then finally

610
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 4: we've got to cut through the permitting and regulatory process

611
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: that drives up costs. It prevents building because the cost

612
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 4: gets so high. So if you look at like Fort Monmouth,

613
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 4: great place to build out, right, I think they were

614
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: bracked and was it twenty eleven maybe that they that

615
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: they went out a.

616
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: Business of being a base.

617
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: And so we've had programs in place for years that

618
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 4: we've tried to build out. I think too at least

619
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 4: two housing programs have fallen under because the permitting just

620
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: took way too long. This is a place that was

621
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 4: built out, that had housing that we just want to

622
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: repurpose and build denserre housing, and we can't get through

623
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: the permitting process, so that drives up a whole host

624
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 4: of costs. So that's why the that's why we need

625
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 4: to drive down the permitting times and the regulatory times,

626
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: but also push in to the Affordable Housing Trust Fund

627
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 4: to defray the cost of building so we can keep

628
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 4: those home prices down as well.

629
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the congestion price and how

630
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: it's affecting, especially people from New Jersey, super duper expensive.

631
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: They're saying that it cuts down traffic, but it's cutting

632
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: down a lot of business in the cities. What are

633
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: your thoughts on that, and is there any way to

634
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: maybe follow lawsuit against New York to stop all this bs.

635
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 4: I am smiling so much because I'm feeling like I'm

636
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 4: in a safe space because usually when I'm in New

637
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: York and somebody brings up congestion, but they're like, why

638
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 4: aren't you for congestion pricing, it's so good, I'm like, really,

639
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: in New York, New Yorkers thought, yeah, well, they don't come,

640
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 4: they don't pay it. They're in New York, They're not

641
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: you know, it's just paying for their transit system.

642
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: I was paying for the MTA.

643
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 4: But I always tell them, I'm like, look, no governor,

644
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 4: nobody who wants to be governor of New Jersey could

645
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 4: ever be for the congestion pricing is it is just

646
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 4: basically taking money out of New Jerseyan's pockets and putting

647
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: it into New York infrastructure like the MTA.

648
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: And then they're like, well a lot of New Jersey

649
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: and schook the subway.

650
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 4: I'm like a lot of New Jerseyans take New Jersey transit,

651
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: and a lot more would take New Jersey transit if

652
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 4: we could run it better, if we had money for it.

653
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: And so the congestion pricing. In my mind, if you

654
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: really want to run a no kidding congestion pricing program

655
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 4: and you want people off the street, and that's really

656
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: your goal and not just you know, using New Jerseys

657
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 4: to pay for New York infrastructure, then you put it

658
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 4: into New Jersey infrastructure, because then if we could run

659
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Speaker 4: buses and trains more often, if they were more reliable,

660
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Speaker 4: then people would take them more and you could get

661
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Speaker 4: people out of cars. But to do it this way,

662
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: to me, is just a cash grab. So I've been

663
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Speaker 4: very opposed to it.

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Speaker 5: You think about Lionsgate, you know, coming to New York,

665
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Speaker 5: and you think about Netflix coming to the mond Mouth,

666
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Speaker 5: what do you what do you think that's going to

667
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Speaker 5: do for those communities and how do we have how

668
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Speaker 5: do we make sure the communities are a part of

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Speaker 5: all of that money that's going to be generated from

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Speaker 5: both of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they provide a bunch of great jobs.

672
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Speaker 4: I think that's you know, that's awesome, And I think

673
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: they're really good jobs for New Jerseyans because so many

674
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Speaker 4: people in New Jersey are in the arts.

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Speaker 3: We have.

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Speaker 4: I think in my district I have some of the

677
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Speaker 4: most members of Iazzi in the nation. So we have

678
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Speaker 4: just tons of people involved, not just in you know,

679
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Speaker 4: in acting and directing and producing, but also in camera guys,

680
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 4: and you know, the whole host of jobs that go

681
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Speaker 4: with us, and they're great and they're great union jobs,

682
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Speaker 4: so they really can provide a really good quality of

683
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Speaker 4: life for people. So I think it's awesome that they're coming.

684
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Speaker 4: I'm really a big supporter. But to your point, we

685
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Speaker 4: need to make sure that as we're developing these outwards

686
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Speaker 4: providing pathways. So I was just we had a debate

687
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Speaker 4: not last night, but the night before, and we had

688
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Speaker 4: the debate at the the Donald Payne Technical School in

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Speaker 4: Essex County in Newark, and it was amazing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is the kind.

691
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Speaker 4: Of school we need for our kids if they're going

692
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Speaker 4: to get into good jobs. If you guys should go

693
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: look at it, because I was just walking by and

694
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: they have this whole.

695
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Speaker 3: Studio there to.

696
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 4: Build out, you know, training for these jobs. And so

697
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 4: what we need to do then if we're going to

698
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: ensure that the people in the towns that they're serving,

699
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 4: like in Newark, get access to those jobs, making sure

700
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Speaker 4: that those kids that are getting that great training, I mean,

701
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 4: this is like nothing at Montclair High School, right, it

702
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 4: was like a huge technical studio looked awesome. We need

703
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 4: to make sure that we're working with Lionsgate, for example,

704
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 4: and then walking it back and saying, what are you

705
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 4: guys going to need. What's the training you're gonna need.

706
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: We're going to develop a program it's going to get

707
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 4: kids right out of high school if they want into

708
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: jobs right away. And then you know what we want

709
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 4: to develop in New Jersey and what we are developing

710
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 4: through our community colleges and other programs. Is this idea

711
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 4: that you don't graduate from high school and make a

712
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 4: decision that's going to be like the rest of your life.

713
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Speaker 4: You don't have to decide the rest of your life

714
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Speaker 4: the minute you graduate. So in other words, you can

715
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Speaker 4: either go to college or you can go straight to

716
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Speaker 4: work at Lionsgate because you have the capacity, and then

717
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 4: maybe you have You get there and you get some

718
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 4: training and you get a certificate which can be a

719
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Speaker 4: credit at a community college. You can go back to

720
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Speaker 4: the community college for some higher training as you develop

721
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Speaker 4: your career, so that you know, we want to stack

722
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Speaker 4: the degrees because that's.

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Speaker 3: What life is now.

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Speaker 4: Right, Even if you go and graduate from a four

725
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Speaker 4: year college. The odds of that being like the last

726
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 4: training you ever get in your life are really low.

727
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Speaker 4: So I think having these options for kids as they graduate,

728
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 4: and you know, I have four kids. They're all very different.

729
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: Some are more ready to go off to college than others.

730
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 4: Some are ready to just go off and build things, right,

731
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Speaker 4: and so having that option and then you know, sometimes

732
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Speaker 4: when you go off and build it, you're like the

733
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Speaker 4: people that sort of buildings are kind of entrepreneurs. So

734
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 4: oftentimes you can see, like you go there and you're like, hush,

735
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: this guy's running this company, but I could run it

736
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 4: better and I could actually add this to it.

737
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Speaker 3: So if I have the opportunity, you know, so is Essex.

738
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Speaker 4: County Community College training, you know, offering the exact training.

739
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Speaker 4: And we see, like I work with Morris County Community

740
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Speaker 4: the County College of Morris, and we have a lot

741
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Speaker 4: of base manufacturing that goes on. They're high end base manufacturing.

742
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Speaker 4: So they offer these training and they work with the

743
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Speaker 4: manufacturers to get people in and out of those jobs

744
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Speaker 4: and hire and hire degrees.

745
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Speaker 3: So I think that's.

746
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Speaker 4: Exactly what we need to do to make sure to

747
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Speaker 4: your point that those jobs are going to the people

748
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Speaker 4: in Newark. I think that's exactly working directly with them

749
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Speaker 4: to kind of walk back, Okay, exactly what training you want,

750
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Speaker 4: and we're going to train your work for for you

751
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Speaker 4: loved it.

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Speaker 5: I was watching the MSNBC, CNN something I forgot which

753
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 5: what it what it was, and I saw an ad

754
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 5: they may have a rock and rant about you, and

755
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Speaker 5: it said that you took thirty thousand dollars from Elon

756
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Speaker 5: Musk's campaign fund and that you made millions on the

757
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Speaker 5: stock market, tripling your net worth while you were in Congress,

758
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Speaker 5: and you were fined for unreported trades.

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00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: What do you say to that?

760
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Speaker 3: So, I've never taken money from Elon Musk.

761
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Speaker 1: There were keep you took it and donated to charity.

762
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Speaker 4: People from SpaceX, which was one of his they donate.

763
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Speaker 4: Individuals from SpaceX donated to my campaign, and I yes,

764
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 4: donated in kind to a food bank because I wanted

765
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Speaker 4: people to know where I stood on it. And I

766
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Speaker 4: have since offered legislation to have Elon Musk drug tested

767
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: and to get them out of dosing everything. But I uh,

768
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Speaker 4: I also don't trade individual stacks. It's been widely reported.

769
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Speaker 4: I've i My husband doesn't trade. We don't trade individual stacks.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anyone in congres should, quite frankly, and

771
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Speaker 4: I've been on legislation for that, so I've I don't

772
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Speaker 4: hold individual stacks.

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Speaker 5: So when Newsmax claimed that you made seven million dollars

774
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Speaker 5: from stock trades, what are they talking about?

775
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Speaker 4: Newsmax is, first of all, a very questionable organization that

776
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 4: is paying multiple fines.

777
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what they're talking about.

778
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 4: I would guess that the root of that would be

779
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 4: because some of some of my husband's payments from its

780
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: company of minits sacks which are immediately and automatically sold.

781
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Speaker 4: But there is no individual stock trading. It's not as

782
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Speaker 4: if I go sit on the House Arm Service Committee

783
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Speaker 4: and suddenly I'm trading Boeing or something. There's none of that.

784
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Speaker 4: I'm totally out of individual stocks. And I, like I said,

785
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Speaker 4: I think every member of Congress shall be well, did you.

786
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Speaker 1: Make seven million in stock trades at all?

787
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 4: Well?

788
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: I I haven't.

789
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 4: I don't believe I did, but i'd have to go

790
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 4: see what that was alluding to again.

791
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,479
Speaker 3: What kind of came from?

792
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Speaker 1: It?

793
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: Was a report in the No, I know it's from Newsmax,

794
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: which again.

795
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Speaker 5: I get another one in the Washington Free Beacon, which

796
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 5: is a conservative leaning platform. But they said, you had

797
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Speaker 5: increased from between seven hundred and thirty three thousand, two

798
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 5: hundred and nine to oval four million in twenty nineteen

799
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Speaker 5: and then between four million to thirteen million and twenty

800
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Speaker 5: twenty four.

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Speaker 1: So that's what he got, the seven million increase the.

802
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Speaker 3: Average they averaged out that. Yeah.

803
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I I both my husband and I come

804
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 4: from very middle class families. My parents were the first

805
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 4: in their family to go to college and his were

806
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 4: both teachers, and then we both went into the military

807
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 4: and afterwards he got a good.

808
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Speaker 3: Job, and I we've been really lucky.

809
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Speaker 4: I I really deeply feel like this country has provided

810
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 4: an incredible amount of opportunity to us. And that's why

811
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 4: I think I feel a response ability to sort of

812
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: pay that forward. And that's why I think opportunity is

813
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 4: so critically important. And I often when I think about

814
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: what democracy means to me, it means opportunity. And it

815
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 4: means not just opportunity for me, like Trump might say,

816
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: And it doesn't mean opportunity to enrich myself. It means

817
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 4: opportunity for the greatest amount of people possible. I think

818
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 4: that's what democracy at its best offers. I love that

819
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: idea that some political philosophers of democracy have that you

820
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 4: should create a society so that if you don't know

821
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 4: how you're going to be born, if you don't know

822
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 4: if you're going to be a man or a woman,

823
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Speaker 4: a rich or poor, black or white, you have no idea,

824
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 4: You create a society and then get dropped into it.

825
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 4: Because if you create that kind of society, then you're

826
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Speaker 4: going to create something that gives everybody the best chance

827
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Speaker 4: at opportunity. And we've had, We've been lucky. And so

828
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Speaker 4: right now what I see is a president in Donald Trump,

829
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 4: who is trying to stop all opportunities, who's taking you know,

830
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 4: who's enriched himself and his billionaire cronies, and is continuing

831
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: to try to do that and then pulling up the

832
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: ladder of success behind him. And I see that at

833
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 4: every level. And that's why to kind of take it

834
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 4: full circle, I think as democratic governor running a state

835
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 4: that creates that opportunity, like just with Lionsgate, and creates

836
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 4: pathways for opportunity pre distribution of wealth, like giving everyone

837
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 4: that opportunity because we know, like my parents weren't in

838
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 4: the military. I have to tell you that the kids's

839
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 4: parents were admirals, Like they knew that system.

840
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: They like they did really well right and all of

841
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: the instructors knew their dad.

842
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 4: And and so I think creating that that what you're

843
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 4: doing when you create opportunity and you're trying to create

844
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 4: generational wealth, is you're creating an opperportunity for not just

845
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 4: the individual, but that person to then get into a

846
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 4: good job and then give their kids the kind of

847
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 4: you know, hey, I'm you know, I'm in this job

848
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: and my buddy is running the summer internship, and I'm

849
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 4: going to get you a summer internship. You know, that's

850
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 4: the kind of opportunity we're talking about. And that's what

851
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 4: I think we have to create in New Jersey. And

852
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: that's the exact opposite of what's happening in Washington. And

853
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: I talk a lot about the military because that's my experience.

854
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 3: But when I'm telling you.

855
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 4: That they're doing what they're doing to women, what they're

856
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 4: doing to people of color, it's again trying to like say,

857
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: these are the people that we see as succeeding, These

858
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 4: are the people that are on the pathway to success,

859
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 4: and we're pulling up the ladder for everybody else.

860
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: Well, make I agree. Hold.

861
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Speaker 5: I don't want to be clear though, because I agree

862
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 5: with what you're saying. But I just want to be

863
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 5: clear because this ad is running and I'm sure you'll

864
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 5: be asked about this a million times. You know, if

865
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 5: you get an opportunity to just clear it up, I

866
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 5: think you should take it now. It says she made

867
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 5: millions on the stock market trip her networthwhile in Congress and.

868
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: Was then fined for unreported trade. That true or false?

869
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 4: So I think we made money from my husband's job.

870
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 4: He gets paid in stocks. They're automatically sold, so I

871
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 4: think we made money there. We don't make any individual

872
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 4: money stock trading. We are out of all individual stacks

873
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 4: because I want people to know that I'm not somehow

874
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 4: gaining information and enriching myself because of my work in Congress.

875
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Speaker 3: So that's really important to.

876
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Speaker 4: Me, and I think every member of Congress should do that,

877
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Speaker 4: and I'm on legislation for that because those stacks get

878
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Speaker 4: immediately sold. We do a lot of reporting, and at

879
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 4: the end of the year, we did an audit of

880
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 4: our reporting and I found I didn't. The lawyers found

881
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 4: a stock trade that had been automatically sold, and so

882
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 4: we self reported it and paid a fine for that.

883
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Speaker 4: But I think that's what that's alluding to. So certainly

884
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Speaker 4: all of this though, I think I'm one of the

885
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Speaker 4: most transparent members because everything you know has been reported,

886
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Speaker 4: and I'm continuing to try to always have transparency there

887
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 4: because again, I don't want anybody to think that I

888
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 4: owe anything to anyone other than the people I serve,

889
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: or that I'm somehow enriching myself, because I think people

890
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 4: have really low faith in government right now. I mean,

891
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 4: you guys know this, and I think it's really incumbent.

892
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 4: The standard has always been in my work in public service,

893
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 4: whether it was in the Navy or at the US

894
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: Attorney's office or in Congress, it's not just impropriety, it's

895
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: even the appearance of impropriety.

896
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: So I try to do.

897
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 4: Things so that people can can check my work and

898
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 4: make sure that there's nothing nefarious going on. And so, yeah,

899
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Speaker 4: I was surprised by that attack ad because I was

900
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 4: with Mayor Baraka at a debate for two and a

901
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 4: half hours the night before it came out, and he

902
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 4: hadn't raised any of this, and I would have liked

903
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: an opportunity to sort of discuss it there before that

904
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Speaker 4: at But we're in the final twenty one days, so

905
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 4: I'm sure things will get spicy, but I'm just really

906
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 4: working hard to push out what I want to do

907
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 4: for people and my positive agenda.

908
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Speaker 5: I saw it Amazon poll that had you in the leite,

909
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 5: but I also saw that same pole said fifty six

910
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 5: percent of all people in New Jersey in the Democratic

911
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 5: primary undecided.

912
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: You believe that now you got high?

913
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Speaker 3: No, we have.

914
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Speaker 4: We've been all running really a long time. I think

915
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Speaker 4: Sean Spiller was running like running a campaign this past summer.

916
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 4: Philip has been in for a long time. So no,

917
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Speaker 4: I don't think there's fifty six percent of the people.

918
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Speaker 4: And there's been a lot before I even got in

919
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 4: and started spending. I think other candidates have spent about

920
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: forty million in the race, which means and you spend

921
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 4: money to communicate, So people have been communicating heavily in

922
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Speaker 4: this race. If you guys are even if you're in Manhattan,

923
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 4: you've pbably seen the commercials, So I don't. I haven't

924
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 4: seen pulling other polling that suggests that seems.

925
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Speaker 5: Really high to the Emerson College Ford. That's what the

926
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Speaker 5: band said too. He said he feels like the pole.

927
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Speaker 1: What did you say? I forgot how what he said?

928
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Speaker 1: You feel like the poll was off? Basically, he said

929
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Speaker 1: it was off. Basic.

930
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Speaker 2: Look, I wanted to ask what makes you different than

931
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 2: the other opponents running against you and why should people

932
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Speaker 2: vote for you?

933
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Speaker 4: I want to be snarky because I'm the only woman

934
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 4: messages in the medium. No, Look, I really think it

935
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: is incredibly important that we have a democratic governor in

936
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Speaker 4: our state that not only can push back against what's

937
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 4: going on in why Washington and has federal experience to

938
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Speaker 4: do just that. And you know the fact that I'm

939
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 4: also former federal prosecutor. Understanding what people like Alena Haba

940
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 4: are doing right now and the ways that the federal

941
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 4: government's acting to undermine rights and freedoms is really important.

942
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 4: And the way they're acting to take away Medicaid and

943
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 4: Department of Education funding and understanding what's going on there

944
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 4: is really important. But I also think having an agenda

945
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 4: to actually make change in the state, Having somebody like

946
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: myself who comes from a little bit of a different

947
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 4: background than a career politician.

948
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Speaker 3: I think that's really important.

949
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Speaker 4: Right now because I like to say that there's the

950
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Speaker 4: right way, the wrong way, in the New Jersey way,

951
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 4: and too many people are like stuck in the New

952
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 4: Jersey way. Like even when I hear people talk about,

953
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 4: you know, building houses or driving down utility costs, they

954
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 4: keep talking about it in the framework of well, this

955
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 4: is the frame and place and this is why it's

956
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 4: going to be impossible, or this is why it's going

957
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 4: to be so hard, or this is why we can't

958
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 4: do it, And that just drives me insane because how

959
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 4: is there a world where we can't get permitting down

960
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 4: less than four years to build a house? That does

961
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Speaker 4: not make sense and it doesn't happen in other places,

962
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 4: and we know we can do better. So I think

963
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 4: having a different kind of leadership to cut through the

964
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Speaker 4: status quote, to take on entrenched interest, which I think

965
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Speaker 4: I have a really good capability of doing because I'm

966
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 4: not from like entrenched politics in the state. I come

967
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 4: from a different type of place. I come from a

968
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Speaker 4: proactive place in the military. I've got four kids, so

969
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: it's not going to be enough for me to sort

970
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 4: of make a little change around the edges because their

971
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 4: future is at stake, and their future feels really tenuous

972
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Speaker 4: right now to me. So fighting for my kids, fighting

973
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 4: for everyone's kids is incredibly important, and I think that's

974
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 4: a different kind of approach and leadership than anyone else

975
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Speaker 4: in the race offers.

976
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Speaker 2: We appreciate you for joining us this morning.

977
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you got to come back before Joe.

978
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Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate you. Guys.

979
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Speaker 5: If you do win and become, you know, governor, like

980
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Speaker 5: I think that you should use platforms like this to

981
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 5: talk directly to the people on the regular that affects.

982
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Speaker 4: Yes, I just know I'll be too important.

983
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Speaker 1: I believe you. I believe.

984
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Speaker 4: I will make a commitment right now if I become governor,

985
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Speaker 4: I will be back on your show if invited.

986
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I don't know why you're worry about the traffic.

987
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Speaker 2: You were a helicopter, you might as just fly to helicopters.

988
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what I'm thinking.

989
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Speaker 2: Mikey Sharrell. Ladies and gentlemen, she's running for governor. Get

990
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: out there and voters to Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast

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Speaker 1: Club