1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Ron And you know that was really easy in high 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: school and I was like the third kid in line. 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: It was interesting high school gym class because you're doing 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: those two guys and if they did something wrong and 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: you can do it right, the whole class got punished. 6 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: Guess we got blaming. What the hell is the car doctors? 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: They're a way to defeat that three cylinder mode to 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: leave it in the six cylinder all the time. Well, yeah, 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: but it's probably more expensive than the value of the car. 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: At this point were three undernathe thousand miles on. 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This radio show is all about 56 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: helping you understand and repair your car and knowing what 57 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: to do and how to do it, and um, just 58 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: in general, have a good experience behind the wheel and 59 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: under theo when you take your car and for service. 60 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Let's kick the garage doors open right away because we've 61 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: got a full phone slate. Let's go over and talk 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: to Jim Cedar, Rapids, Eyah Prius and some questions. Jim, 63 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can thank you 64 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: for having your show? I really really enjoy listening to Oh, 65 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: you're very welcome, Thank you for being there. Two thousand 66 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: ten Toyota Prius, it's got eighteen thousand miles on it. 67 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: I wondered if I had anything to worry about with 68 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: a hybrid battery. Uh no, that you know, the two 69 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: thousand nine and up Prius is third generation, right and 70 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: and and it's a fair question, you know, it's it's 71 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: the average Prius battery replacement is oh thirty five dollars, 72 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: give or take minus core credit. And you know, still 73 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: it's it's more than your average battery. It's it's the 74 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: price of what a small engine repair used to be. Uh. 75 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: You know, but let me say it like this, Toyota 76 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 1: has such high hopes for their batteries that they've they've got. 77 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: I think it's like an eight year, hundred thousand mile 78 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: warranty and Jim General and a a ten year, hundred 79 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand mile warranty in California. And the thing 80 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: to take note is that battery replacement it happens, Jim, 81 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: but it's it's not common, So you know, it's not 82 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: something it's not like a regular you know, twelve volt battery. 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: You know, how many miles a year do you put 84 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: on the car very little, probably fight Yeah, and that's 85 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: not terribly small. I mean, yeah, it's not twelve to fifteen, 86 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: but you know you're probably out there twice a month 87 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: with it on a fair statement, right right, yeah, I 88 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: think I think twelve to fourteen is average. Yeah, right, 89 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: so twelve to fourteen is average, So you're you're half 90 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: of that. I don't think you're, Um, I don't. I 91 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: don't think you're that big of an issue. But it's 92 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: just something obviously to be aware of. Hopefully regardless, you're 93 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: just changing your oil on a consistent basis, because that's 94 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: that's probably the bigger concern. Um, you know, I would 95 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: be changing the oil in that at least once every 96 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: six months, regardless of mileage. Okay, all right, and welcome, 97 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: You're very welcome to you bye bye. Yeah, it's it's 98 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: it's important. And you know, when you look at the 99 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: things that go wrong with a car that sits, and 100 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: it's not great to let a car sit. Uh, you know, 101 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: we like to see cars being used. It helps seals 102 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: be lubricated, it keeps the tires from getting flat spots 103 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: and break rotors from rusting and things like that. But 104 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, if you're going to drive a car in 105 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: his case six thousand miles, change the oil and um, 106 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, switch to synthetic. That's definitely a car for 107 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: synthetic fluid, and you know, maintain it that way and 108 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: by all means, take a look at the line of 109 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: synthetics that penns Oil is brought to market, because that's 110 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: one of the things that their natural gas based stock 111 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: Derivative Oil deals with is vehicles that sit and they're 112 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: synthetic is second to none in that department. So it's 113 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: something that um, you know, you want to look at 114 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: and consider. You don't want to use a cheap synthetic 115 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: oil if you're not putting a lot of miles on 116 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: your car. Let's get over to Livingston, New Jersey. Talked 117 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: to Barry Ultima and see what's going on here? Yes, Barry, 118 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: how can I help you? Stirt? This car can't be broken, 119 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: it's brand new. Oh now the car is fine, but 120 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: had to maintenance. I know he's always talked about three 121 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: thousand miles all changes to which I've done, you know, 122 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: in other cars, but the maintenance books for Nissan says 123 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: five thousand miles. Thoughts on doing at five versus you 124 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: know three. I had lunched this week with my friend Tim. 125 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: Tim is the shop foreman of a local Nissan dealer, 126 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: and you know, this very question came up and it 127 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: was you know, and it was just a casual conversation 128 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: standing around the shop, and you know, we we talked 129 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: about the adventures in order repair that we both experienced. 130 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: And I said, so, Tim, you know, what is Nissan's 131 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: current projected oil change and everyone he says, most of 132 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: our cars are five to six thousand miles. And you know, 133 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: he says, we have some that you know, they claim 134 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: can go longer. And I said, what do you see 135 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: that oil looking like? And he says, it still comes 136 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: out blacker than coal. And you know, the engine all 137 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: lad two hundred thousand miles. He says, beyond that then 138 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: they'll start there starts to be issues. And um, he said, 139 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: if it were me, I'd still do it in the 140 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: three or four thousand mile range because it just seems 141 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: to be better for the engine. So that being said, 142 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: that's some real world experience my thought process. You know, 143 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: are we going to run synthetic or conventional in this berry? 144 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: I haven't done it. The dealer I change the oil 145 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: I still put in conventional oil, right, you know, keep 146 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: in mind the dealer is following a maintenance marketing plan. 147 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: All right, I'm sure they might have even sold you 148 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: this as part of the package when you bought the car. 149 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: You know, G. Barry will sell you this car for 150 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: X y Z dollars and you know, we'll even throw 151 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: in the two thousand dollar oil change package for free, 152 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: and we'll just change the oil every five thousand miles. 153 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: And guess what if they can drag maintenance out to 154 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: the point where at a hundred thousand you have to 155 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: buy a new car, Guess who's Guess who's winning, and 156 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: guess who's not. And it really comes back to that 157 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: if it's conventional oil. Berry, Yeah, technology has gotten better. 158 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: I admit that maybe you could sneak it up the 159 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: four thousand miles, but to go to five unconventional, I 160 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: think you're pushing it. You know, things start to happen, 161 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: Things start to happen to conventional oils. They haven't changed 162 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: the technology to my knowledge as of whatever time it 163 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: is three fifteen on Saturday afternoon, June. That conventional oils 164 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: are all made of a similar base stock. They have editives, 165 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: put in those additives you're putting in, or the vitamins 166 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: that keep oil going, and they start to wear out. 167 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: At three thousand miles. They're not worn out, they start 168 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: to dissipate. They start to become used up and depleted. 169 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: And by the time that engine has five thousand miles 170 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: on it, that engine is now working on a base 171 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: stock oil rated from nineteen sixty five by the Society 172 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: of Automotive Engineers. It's all about the vitamins and the engineering. 173 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: If I had just paid oh, I'll take a guess here, 174 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for this ultimum uh close, because I got 175 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: it with the you know the blind sun the blind 176 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: spot warning. Okay, so you paid thirty UM. I would 177 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: I would be using a synthetic oil. I would be 178 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: considering Pen's oil. As I've said before, penns Oil synthetic 179 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: is tops in its field. That natural gas derivative that 180 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: pennz Oil came up with a year ago, a year 181 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: and a half ago for their base stock is second 182 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: to none. It's the purist oil out there. You can 183 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: read more motor oil Reimagined dot com. And I'd be 184 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: changing it. Then I change it every five I have 185 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: no problem with that. Um, but evenually you would still 186 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: do with three. I would still do it three, yes, sir, 187 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: And I always the car. And I was gonna say, 188 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: the issue here is heat and how you use the car, 189 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, and that's the issue. What kind of drive 190 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: if your highways driving used invention will do it four thousand. 191 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: But you know what, don't split hairs, all right? And 192 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: you know it's just my way of thinking. We spend 193 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: more time worrying about oil changes in this country than 194 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: we do should we get an extra cup of extra 195 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: large latte with foam at Starbucks? It boggles my mind. Um, 196 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's still a piece of machinery. 197 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: And if someone ended up spending one extra oil change 198 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: a year for the life of the car for seven 199 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: eight years and they didn't have to do major engine 200 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: repair and they got to drive the Cardo A hunifty 201 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: thousand miles after eight nine years, you know, wasn't it 202 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: worth it? We was that had the previous card A 203 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: hundred thirty six thousand miles and I did about every 204 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: three thousand miles right. Well, when the proofs in the pudding, 205 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: all right, look at you know, the technology hasn't gotten 206 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: that much better. You answered your own question, Barry. I 207 00:10:50,960 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: appreciate the CALLOO zero. We're back right after this. Hey, 208 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: welcome back. We're a meeting in the Car Doctor eight 209 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero zero is the car Doctor hotline 210 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: car Doctor show dot com for more information. Let's keep 211 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: it rolling. We've got a lot of calls this hour. 212 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: John Appleton, Wisconsin. Your next up two thousand seven Dodge Caravan. 213 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: How can I help you? Well, I have a heat 214 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: her problem where I get fresh air. When I have 215 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: the fresh air coming in, it's about fifteen degrees warmers 216 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: and outside air because of a seventy's coming in. But 217 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: when I turn on the air conditioner, it pulls it 218 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: right down. It's uh cold air is coming okay. So 219 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: so the the outlet temp on a C is good, 220 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: but when you're in heat, it doesn't seem to correspond 221 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: to what you've got the temp control set to on 222 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: the head itself. Right if you just take air from 223 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: outside in and there's there's there's two things that come 224 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: to mind. Three Actually, one is there are known problems 225 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: with blend doors where the blend doors will break. Um 226 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: understand what this system is like? John, go to the 227 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: front door of your house. If the door is closed, 228 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: that's heat. If the door is open, you're gonna let 229 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: cool air in. So if if John decides, hey, I 230 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: want to cool the house off halfway, and I'm just 231 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: simplifying the point, he opens the door halfway, it's at. 232 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: The computer works off of a temperature reading and it 233 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: decides where to put that blend door. If it sees 234 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: John Cole from the middle of the road temp it 235 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: tries to put the blend door at It can't physically 236 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: mechanically do it, but it has a sensor attached to 237 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: the top of your door hinge, and it sees the 238 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: door open and it stops. If that sensor is out 239 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: of calibration, it thinks it's at fift, but maybe it's 240 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: at sixty or vice versa. So blend door position blend 241 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: door hinge can be a problem. Number one. Number two 242 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: blend door calibration. Sometimes the computer gets stupid. It just 243 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: it just loses where it is. And there's a process 244 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: where they call it blend door calibration where they will 245 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: sweep the door all the way open, sweep the door 246 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: all the way closed, and so the computer now learns 247 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: high spot low spot. It knows where the middle of 248 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: the road is okay. And and then third thing, sometimes 249 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: they have temp control head problems. Sometimes the actual temperature 250 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: control head goes out of calibration and provides wrong signal 251 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: to the to the b c M in this case, 252 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: because there's a body computer issue, Uh, it feeds it 253 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: to the b c M and a Chrysler and causes 254 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: a problem. That way, somebody's got to spend some time 255 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: with diagnosis. And I would think within an hour to 256 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: two hours of chop time, someone could give you a 257 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: pretty good answer. Um, starting with pulling codes out of 258 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: the system, either PCM or BCM to see just what's 259 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: coming up as a possible fault and failure. But these 260 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: are this is not an uncommon complaint. Yeah, that's what 261 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: my thing like. I asked the dealer and he's as well, 262 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: we can start with estimized. Well, I'm not the only 263 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: guy that had this problem, right. Well, I think what 264 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: the dealer is really saying is, John, We've got to 265 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: go through the steps. Listen. You know. I say it 266 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: to Harry all the time. Harry will come by the 267 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: shop and watch me work on cars from time to time, 268 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: and he says what's wrong with this? And I said this, 269 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: and he goes, then why are you doing that? Because 270 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: I've got to go through the motions. I've got to 271 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: make sure that even though I know it's this or 272 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: this is part of it, that there isn't more. You know, 273 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: if if I was working on a relative's car, well, actually, 274 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: if I was working on a relatives car, I probably 275 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't work on it. But if I was working on 276 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: a relatives car for no money, all right, you know what, John, 277 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: it's that all right, I don't have to take your money. 278 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't have to I don't have to back up 279 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: what I say. Okay, I can just it's it's it's 280 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: a random guess at that point, or it's an educated guess. 281 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: If someone's taking your money to repair something on a 282 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: commercial basis, they they they owe it to you to 283 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: charge you for a diagnosis or to perform a diagnosis 284 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: at the very least. So when they turn to you 285 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: and say, hey, John, it's this, it's it's X number 286 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: of dollars, you're comfortable going yeah, okay, it's not just 287 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: a guess. Um. I I get where you're coming from. 288 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: And just the fact that I can sit here and 289 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, rattle off three possibilities. Yeah, could all that? 290 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: Could it be any one of those three? Sure? It 291 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: could also be a mounse that crawled under the hood 292 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: and it was chewing halfway through the wiring harness that 293 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: nobody can see. It could be four other possibilities. I mean, 294 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: the list of what could be wrong is twelve steps deep. 295 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: Diagnosis is always a good thing to do, and it's 296 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: it's it's a logical place to start. So I have 297 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: to agree with the dealer in this case. So the 298 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: dealers set in, uh, I mean right, he's gonna set 299 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: a diagnostic tool up. He's gonna go through go through 300 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: some parameters. The key that will tell you whether or 301 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: not it was a good diagnosis is what they come 302 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: back with, DoD They come back and say, you, John, 303 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be four and thirty nine dollars and cents 304 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: and this will fix the car? Or are they gonna 305 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: say it's four or thirty nine cents and this might 306 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: fix the car? And then you have to ask why 307 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: is it might? What did I what did I spend 308 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: the diagnosis for? And in some cases it's it could 309 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: be a two step process. But this also comes back 310 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: to do you trust the dealer? Well, I mean I 311 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: don't normally go to dealers independence the dealer, well, have 312 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: you talked? Have you talked to your independent mechanic about 313 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: whether or not you can fix this? Yeah, that's the 314 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: first step, because you know what, sometimes it's not about 315 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: who does it, it's the trust him, and that's the key. 316 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: That's the key. I was at them. I went to 317 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: the chiropractor this morning, real quick before I let you go. 318 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: And I got out of the car and one of 319 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: the fellows that the chiropractor knows who I am and 320 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: what I do, and he got out of his car. 321 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: He had come down. He had got in his car. 322 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: He saw me pulling in the truck and he got 323 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: out and he came home and he said, listen, Ron, 324 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: he goes you know the Honda that we were talking about. 325 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, we you know, you can imagine 326 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: what the chiropractice officers like every Saturday. It's it's you know, 327 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: it's the prelude to this show. And um he said, well, 328 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: I took it into the Honda dealer to have some 329 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: tires put on, and they told me I need for 330 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: an end work. I took it to my regular mechanic. 331 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: He says, I don't. Can I bring it to you 332 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: for a real answer, And you know I knew what 333 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: he was saying. He trusted me, And you know, trust 334 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: is everything in a service relationship. And if you don't 335 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: trust the guy, and I don't care if they do 336 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: it for half price or double the price, it's it's 337 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: it's a bad choice. So you gotta trust the guy 338 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: that's working on your car, your house, your kitchen sink, 339 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: and handling your legal affairs. Go get a second opinion, 340 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: Go talk to your mechanic. John will start the war 341 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: from there. All right, So a thank you, You're very welcome, 342 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm glad. I'm glad to be here for 343 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: you and everyone else. I can't say enough about trust. 344 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 1: You know, it's money in a relationship. It changes everything. 345 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's you know, it's that boundary that 346 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: defines where that relationship goes. And if someone's gonna take 347 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: your money, they owe you a diagnosis, and at least 348 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: then with confidence. Yeah, some things are obvious. The fan 349 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: belt or the alternator belt fell off the car. You know, 350 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: there's no diagnosis there. The belt's gone. The water pumps leaking, Yeah, 351 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: there's no diagnosis there. Why does my car overheat and 352 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: traffic after driving four and a half hours up Mountain 353 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: Invincible and ten degree heat? Well, could be a radiator 354 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: because be a water pump, could have would have should 355 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: have time to pay for a diagnosis. I'm not any 356 00:18:53,840 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. Hey, 357 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: Ronny and the Car Doctor, welcome back a five zero 358 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. Thanks for sticking around this hour 359 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: here at the Car Doctor. It's Car Doctors Show dot com. 360 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: For more information, you can get out to tune in 361 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: I Heart iTunes and ron at Car Doctor Show dot 362 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: com if you need me during the week. Let's get 363 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: back to the busy phones. Let's go over and talk 364 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: to Curtis and Conroy Texas and problems with his two 365 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: thousand four d f one fifty. That's sort of like 366 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: the national symbol of Texas, isn't a Curtis the Ford 367 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: pick him up truck. Hey, if you're in Texas and 368 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: you don't have a Ford pickup truck, just not from Texas, 369 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I think, you know, it's um like, 370 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: that's it. That's the vehicle to have, So what's going 371 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: on here? It's been a good one. I got a 372 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: three thousand cab with the five point four Tritton engine, right, 373 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: I have a hundred and forty three thousand miles on it. 374 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: I've changed all and snoo and I bought it and 375 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: do every three thousand miles with ten W thirty penzil 376 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: or ten W thirties avolene and um. Right now with 377 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: a hundred forty three thousand miles on it, I uh, 378 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: burning about a half a quarter every thousand miles. But 379 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: I'd like to know, is is this that normal? Uh? 380 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: Is there something I can do to help or slow 381 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: down the burn of the oil or you know, is 382 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: there something I can put in there to help my engine? 383 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: Is it is? Are you still using ten thirty Curtis? Yes? Okay? 384 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: Now in two thousand do they recommend ten thirty? They're 385 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: calling for five thirty the temperatures that we are okay, right, 386 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: because you've got a temperature issue sometimes ten thirty or 387 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: the higher viscosity, you know, don't just look are you 388 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: looking on the oil phill caper? And are you are 389 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: you in the owner's manual? Owners manual? All right? Um? 390 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: How close to that spec are you you know? Can you? 391 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: Could you fudge five thirty to try it for one 392 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: oil change? Yeah, there wouldn't be a problem in high 393 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: thirty two? Uh on the tip sure wise it runs 394 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: into the thirty's just when you start getting about a 395 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: hundred and ten degrees here they recommend the tend of 396 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: your thirty. I could solve that problem hundred ten degrees. 397 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: Just stay home in the air conditioning, so that won't 398 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: be a problem. Trust me, brother, um. You know the 399 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: reason I say try dropping the viscosity down is because 400 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: there's been a recent school of thought in the last 401 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: oh twelve to eighteen months in the industry that they're 402 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: seeing a high viscosity or a heavier viscosity oil um 403 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: will will cause issues with the piston rings from allowing 404 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: them to fully expand and not get stuck and create 405 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: consumption issues on engines that have wear on them. And listen, 406 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: it could make the problem worse, it could keep the 407 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: problem the same, but at least we'll know. So trying 408 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: a five thirty is where I would recommend you go next. 409 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: Now you know, a half court every thousand miles. You 410 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: know it doesn't make me happy, but hey, it's not 411 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: a court, and be it's still cheaper to put in 412 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: a half court than it is to replace the engine 413 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: or the vehicle. At this point it's sixteen years old. Um, 414 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: what what you've got to be concerned about is if 415 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: the oil consumption gets worse at at at the point 416 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: of a court every thousand, then we're gonna start to 417 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: see possible issues with and I realized saying any possible 418 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: issues on a sixteen year old truck with a buck 419 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: and a half on it. Um, it seems silly, but 420 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: you know that oil can and will start to coat 421 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: the catalytic converters over time, and at some point ten, 422 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: maybe fifteen thousand miles down the road, I don't know 423 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: where you can start to see check engine lighting, catalytic 424 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: converter efficiency faults as well. Do you recommend using that 425 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: what they call that high knowledge oil, you know, the 426 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: high mile of oil is is also formulated in a 427 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: specialty way. Yes, you could take a look at that, 428 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: um and consider that, because that does have differences and additives. 429 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: But I believe what I would probably do first is 430 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: start with five thirty all right, and I would just go, 431 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, some five thirty pens oil. Just you know, 432 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: either they're conventional, and if you've been using conventional all along, 433 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: I'd stay with their five thirty conventional and then if 434 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: you want to switch and go to their higher mile 435 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: of oil, you can do that as well. Um, you know, 436 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: and try that a little bit of a science experiment 437 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: each time. We may end up getting nowhere, but you've 438 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: got to change the oil anyway, So what difference does 439 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: it make? And you know kind of take it from there. Um, 440 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: you did well, hundred forty three thousand miles. I'm just 441 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: curious you've done all the other maintenance, cooling service, spark plugs, 442 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: those types of things. Yeah, what I do, genuinely, this 443 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: is my third one. I've always keep them anywhere from 444 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: thirteen to eighteen years each, So this is my third 445 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: Ford pickup truck. Um, Yeah, what I do is that 446 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand miles. I do many tune ups, and 447 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: I also have the transmission oil and filter change at 448 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: that time, and uh, they seem to last until I 449 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: trade them off. Right, you did well? You know what 450 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: to go ahead a thousand miles in the first trans 451 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: fluid change. Um, you did really well. I would, I would? 452 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: You must be I guess you. Well, yeah, you are 453 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: doing a lot of highway driving. You're in Texas, UM, 454 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: so I'm sure it's I'm sure it's a lot of 455 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: over the road stuff, Curtis. I appreciate the call. Take 456 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: a look at motor Oil Reimagined dot com for more 457 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: information about Penn's oil, oil and UM. There's also a 458 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: tech line number there you can call and talk to 459 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: them about what oils to use, but try to switch 460 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: to five thirty first and then we can we can 461 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: talk about it again if you need to. You can 462 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: get me a call back at five five zero nine 463 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. I'm running any in the right doctor. 464 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: Let's pull over and take a pause. I'm back right 465 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: after this. M H. Welcome back, ran any in the 466 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: car doctor. The phone numbers eight five five zero nine 467 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: nine zero zero, that is seven on all the time. 468 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: Call and leave a message fast. Harry, our executive producer, 469 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: will call you back and put you in queue for 470 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: the following week when this show's live Saturday afternoons to 471 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: the four pm Eastern time. Let's get over and talk 472 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: to Pam south Hadley. I guess that's main is that 473 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: main Pam? No, it's actually Western Massachusetts. Okay, are you 474 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: very welcome, dear? How can I help roll? And I've 475 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: got a two thousand four ZW tur eggs. I've been 476 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: through three batteries and more years. I was on vacation 477 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: in Maine and started getting odd messages from the electrical 478 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: warning system. So I took it into the W dealership 479 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: in Maine mentioned the battery issue as an assigne. When 480 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: I picked the car up, the service guy said, you 481 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: have a second separate alarm on the battery. It's on 482 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: all the time. That's what's draining the battery. We've never 483 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: seen anything like this, and we have no idea how 484 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: to disable it. Isn't that exciting? Okay? It is? And 485 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: and uh, talking a little more, he realized I had 486 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: bought the car in Queens, in New York City. He goes, well, 487 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: maybe in a high crime area that standard equipment. Um, 488 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: no reflection on Queens. Although, yeah, my, my, my engineer 489 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: Tony smiling, he gets it. He's from Brooklyn. Uh, let's 490 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: start the war from here. First of all, we've got 491 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: to determine is this an anti theft car or not 492 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: an anti theft car? And they can do that by 493 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: running down the serial number of the part number of 494 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: the PCN, M or H. If the dealer is saying 495 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: this is an aftermarket alarm, why can't we just disable it? 496 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: Why can't we just disconnected? Have you asked that question? Uh? Yeah, 497 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: I did, And a friend of mine who's actually an 498 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: aircraft mechanics that there's got to be a fused or 499 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: something you can you can cut. It has to be, 500 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: has to be now. Now you know, I've unwired a 501 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: few car alarms at the shop. Not to make it 502 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: sound like we're doing it on a daily basis, but 503 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: it does happen. We probably unwire three or four car 504 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: alarms a year, and it's just a process. It's a 505 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: process of time, patients and your checkbook, um to put 506 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: it bluntly, because they've got to go in. Depending upon 507 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: how this aftermarket alarm was attached and disconnected from the harness, 508 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: figure out where you know, here's the factory harness, here's 509 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: the aftermarket harness. We cut it here, spliced this in 510 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: between and enabled it that way so it can be reversed. 511 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: It depends a lot on how it was put together, 512 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: and if it's too badly hacked up, just soldering things 513 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: back together and putting it back to original. Um, if 514 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: you look at your key ring, maybe this is the answer. 515 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: If you look at your keys on your key ring, 516 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: is there a remote of some type that's that's doesn't 517 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: look like it came from Volkswagen. No, okay, it's just 518 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: I've just got two identical Volkswagon. Do you turn the 519 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: alarm on and offer? Does it automatically arm whenever you 520 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: lock the car? I turn it on and off. How 521 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: do you turn it on and off? I have old 522 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: fashioned and actually put the key in the lock and 523 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: turn it. Okay, that that arms the alarm. Yeah, it's 524 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: the alarm for the car. But the the v W 525 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 1: service guy told me that the battery alarm, the separate 526 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: second one, is just always on. And you know, the 527 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: battery for this car is under the driver's seat and 528 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: so it's fairly inaccessible, and it's always on. The alarm 529 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: for the battery, yes, is always on. Because that's the 530 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: idea behind this system that if somebody breaks into the car, 531 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, and let's say I'm an idiot and I've 532 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: forgotten to put the car alarm in the car, he 533 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 1: goes to steal the battery. Of course, that the battery 534 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: alarm has to be on. So we we actually thought 535 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: somewhere somewhere in Queen's is a dealership saying that somebody 536 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: might break into a two thousand four Volkswagen and steal 537 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 1: the battery out of it. Well, I got the car 538 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: in two thousand Well right, I get that. But still, um, 539 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: I think we've taken things to an extreme level here. Um, yeah, 540 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: I had no I had no idea. There is this 541 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: second alarm if if there, if somebody put it on, 542 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: there's a way to take it off, all right. If 543 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: somebody wanted to do a parasitic draw test, there's got 544 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: to be a fuse here that's activated. Now, what I'd 545 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: like you to do is go back to your friend 546 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: the aircraft mc annek and ask him about doing a 547 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: Millie voult voltage drop test. All right. The problem is 548 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: that to do a parasitic draw test on newer cars 549 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: it takes a lot because of the computer involvement, and 550 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: in some cases, in the case of most Volkswagons, for example, 551 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: your thirty to forty five minutes of letting the vehicle 552 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: sit idle, key out of it, doors closed, hood down 553 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: to let all the modules go to sleep, and then 554 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: by the time you go up to do any kind 555 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: of amperage draw testing, the minute you wake something up, 556 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: you have to start all over again. So conventional thinking 557 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: is now working towards the idea of doing a millie vault. 558 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: You take a digital voltometer, set it on millie volts, 559 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: which is a very small scale, and you're looking for 560 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: millie voltage on any one particular fuse. The idea being 561 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: is that if there is a presence of voltage on 562 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: that fuse, then that circuit is showing voltage there for 563 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: its showing amperage flow, and that circuit is still alive, 564 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: and there's your drain at least, then you might be 565 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: able to know that, Okay, this this aftermarket alarm that's 566 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: been put on that has no fuse, has a fuse, 567 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: so there has to be a few somewhere. There's got 568 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: to be something that powers that alarm. It just can't. 569 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: We don't have the technology to do this wirelessly yet, 570 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: and a millie vault voltage drop test will help you 571 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: to find that. But I'll have that I have to. 572 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: But I have to tell you, Pam, I've never seen 573 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: an alarm specifically for just a battery. It's just insane. Yeah, 574 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: that's just crazy. So so the current battery is dead, dead, dead, 575 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: and it was fully charged a month ago when I 576 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: went in for an oil change and all the other stuff. Um, 577 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: and I didn't drive it at all. Last week I 578 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: went to it and started it, put it on a 579 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: tenant charger for three hours, absolutely nothing. So I've got 580 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: a spring for a new battery, which is a darn 581 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: shame because I'm trading in the car this summer. So 582 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: any expense I have to go to is just or 583 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: is I'm just wondering if it, if it's worth it. 584 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: Well I've got you know, if I've got someone, we'll 585 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: do it for free. It's it's it's worth it. If 586 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: you need to have the car and drive it around 587 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: for a month, you know you're you're you're paying for 588 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: the price of a battery versus renting a car. Is 589 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: the dealership that sold you the car still in business? 590 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: H I have no idea I could call and see, 591 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, a fairly large one in Queen's right. I 592 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: would wonder if you called them and um, you know, 593 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: maybe they can go back in their files. Maybe you're 594 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: still maybe that vehicle still exists in their files. And 595 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: they could tell you, yeah, we installed these alarms. Here 596 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: was the company, or could you at least take a 597 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: look at the alarm or something. There's got to be 598 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: a module in the car or wiring at the battery, 599 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: anything with any identifying tag and google it from there. 600 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: And you know, the Internet is a great source of information. 601 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: You just have to weed through it and maybe you 602 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: can find out more about this alarm, this add on 603 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: from that point too. Okay, I'll try that. I'll start 604 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: by calling the original dealer film. All right, if you 605 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: if you can get a picture of this alarm add 606 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: on or anything you get, send me a picture, email 607 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: it to me Ron at Car Doctor show dot com. 608 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: I'll see what I can come up with. All Right, 609 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: you're welcome. I'm good luck to you, dear zero. The 610 00:33:33,760 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: Car Doctor is back. Right after this welcome back. We're 611 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: on the of the Car Doctor winding things down this hour. 612 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: Let's go for an out of the states called Paul, Ontario, Canada. Paul. 613 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help hi, sir? 614 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: Question for you? Yes, I have a two thousand and 615 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: six masses speed six UM and I put an engine 616 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: in it because I had a thrower rod at like 617 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: uh two d and twenty thousand miles. So put a 618 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: new engine in. I put new engine. I told the 619 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: guy whould put an engine, and I said, can you 620 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: get the injectors cleaned? And recently I had a misfire 621 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: and I tracked it down. It's like, it's not not 622 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: ignition because I swapped the plugs and the coil packs 623 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, if those injectors, I know we 624 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: never claimed them. So I pull all the intake off 625 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 1: and what I was off. I looked down the intake 626 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: tracks at the back of the vowel and because it's 627 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: direct injection, the amount to crap on the back of 628 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: the vowel's just astound after twelve miles, and I'm like, 629 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: you read up on it, and guys are using well 630 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: nut media blaster to clean it off, and I'm like, 631 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: there's got to be a better way. An injector cleaner 632 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: doesn't obviously do it because it doesn't go that way. Well, 633 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: the problem with you know the problem with the injector cleaners, Paul, 634 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: is getting it into the system. And you know there 635 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: are but you can't. It's it doesn't go through the 636 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: intake right, you can't, So it's it becomes an issue. UM. 637 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: You know my experience with direct injection, the best way 638 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 1: to do it is too Now, there are some cleaners 639 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: that you can spray around the intakes that you know 640 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 1: you're not going through the injectors. There are various cleaners 641 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: out there from different manufacturers that you can try and 642 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: going through that process. Um CRC makes one uh G 643 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: d I gasoline direct injection cleaner and we've had some 644 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: good results with that and UM we followed those recommendations also. 645 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you're not in this category. You know, 646 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: what's your length of time between oil changes. They're finding 647 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: that the cars that are dragging out the oil changes 648 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: are the ones that are more likely to have problems 649 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: with carbon build up on direct injection cars. Mini Coopers 650 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: come to mind. They're a nightmare for that. UM. So 651 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: it's it's cleaners outside, such as the sprays and UM 652 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: doing that and then additives into the gas tank because 653 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: um although actually editives in the gas tank won't help 654 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: the intake valves, they will help with piston rings, carbon deposits, 655 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: better combustion, and maintaining compression on the cylinders. So there's 656 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: a couple of ways to attack it, and there's a 657 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: couple of things you can try. All right, sir, Hey listen, 658 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I'm on any of the car 659 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: Doctor mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. See you