WEBVTT - Hangin' with the 'Boys: We Need a Fireplug 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:12.160 Glad you showed up today. Kurt Banks, appreciate before listening 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:14.440 as good doctor. If your heart is healthy enough for 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:19.720 Dallas Cowboys football, He's hanging with the boys. Broadcasting live 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:23.919 from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:29.160 Now your host Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:36.479 Monday who who? I don't know what's going on with this, Mike, 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:40.519 I don't know. We have a very special guests producer today. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:50.080 Welcome to the show. William Boykins. All right, mister hotboys himself. 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.080 You can say something, William? He so can he put 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.480 his seven up on the screen. I don't know. He 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.800 sounds like he's struggling to put anything up. So you're 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.959 not to put seven on the screen? Will you don't 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:11.160 worry about it? Wow? Well, thank you, William. Bro Will 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:15.360 that's bro Will Douglas. Douglas is out on spring break 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.720 with the kids and Kent had to go film for 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.200 a Deep Blue documentary. And I think just about everybody's 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.800 out except four of us. It's so quiet around here. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.200 Why didn't you take off spring break? You got a 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.800 house full of I might take a little time off later, 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.840 but just other stuff going on, like, what what are 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.600 you that busy with right now? Well, part of us 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:40.560 already missed sometime and so now and nobody knows. Hod on, 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:45.000 hold on, hold on, he said, He's meant when we 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.800 needed you the most as when you won't him. Bro, Yeah, 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.720 not take all about us. You want to show up 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:55.720 with it. Yeah, you're right, all right, let's get out 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.520 of here. About two o'clock today, al what are you 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:03.480 doing for spring break? Nothing? Man? My son is my 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.400 baby boys down and Fortlight. I just gave him a call. 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:08.960 You know what you've been doing some man? Dad? If 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:11.160 we went to Miami, I said, yeah, that's where the 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.440 stars go vacation, And I said, you ain't a star, 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:20.720 all right, keep your nose. Do you do anythink this weekend? Anything? Fun? Um? 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.600 I don't know my wife? Man? Yeah, yeah that's fun. Yeah, 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.920 that oh dad, definitely fun. Man. I'm married now about 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.079 thirteen fourteen years. And then you know, you know, then 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:33.760 I got a little thing pop up saying something about 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.000 Sean Lee. I don't even know what that said. Yeah, 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.240 so let's get into that. I'm glad you brought that. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.960 We got all kind of good stuff. Free agency. Start serious, man, 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.760 I'm hanging out with a wife and I was saying, 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:48.600 Sean Live is back. I'm like, but he got to 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:50.720 hear the album or something as you're gonna wrap you know, 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.680 got Beasley and they thought did like to hear that. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.760 I don't even know he left? I mean, so what's 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.400 the deal Kurt? There was ern he might leave. What happened? 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:06.720 They basically restructured his salary cut in half. I think, 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.280 are you all right? Now? Look like seven million now 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:10.720 it's down to like three and a him. Here's my 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:14.000 question for you. Yeah, we have this youth movement that 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:18.400 we started yes through two three years ago, and now 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:23.000 we don't mess the curve up brow old man with 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.560 gold jacket whip back. Yeah, now we're bringing Shawn Lee's back. 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.840 So now are we are these good moves in your opinion? 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.000 I like the Sean Lee MoU for sure, because I 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:36.800 think he understands his role. He said in the un 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.040 last season he knew he'd be a reserve and he's 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.520 here to help those guys, and he has helped those guys. 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.680 I think he's a big mentor for Jalen Smith and Vandrees. 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.760 I think they've already said that he's a huge help. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.440 So I don't especially now that they're at seven million, 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:51.960 he probably wouldn't have been worth it, but that he's 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:56.480 willing to restructure. He knows his role. I like that move. Yeah, 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.360 and he's good with man. I'll tell you what when 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.840 every We'll get to that in a second. For everybody 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:08.040 that gets mad at these players for wanting their money, 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:12.080 think about how quick this game turns on you. Shaun 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:17.880 Lee was starting, was one of the best. Yeah, could 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.680 have been one of the best to ever do it 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.920 if you could have stayed healthy. But a year ago 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.240 he was starting, it was like nobody's gonna take his spot. 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.719 And now a year later he's coming back as a 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.320 reserve role for these two young guys that have been bought. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.680 So I think he's essentially a player coach now. I 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.400 mean he's that's kind of his role, and I think 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.560 he understands that once that. I'm good with that. Yeah, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:44.560 I'm good. What do you think, Nate? You know, uh, 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:50.479 just like with Witten, you know, Witnes is different. I 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:54.640 mean it's a win it's a win now thing with 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:58.960 me and Sean Lee and his role, I think it 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.760 is great. But I'm hoping that this is it. I'm 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.960 hoping that because you can't have five or six guys 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:12.359 thirty plus years old on your roster and all on 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:13.800 the hey, it is the leader of the team and 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.560 the leaders of what's out there on the field, playing 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:23.080 and contributing and making a difference. So yes, you're making 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.960 help with the film, but that don't have to speed 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.840 or the game, you know. So, uh, Sean Lee, I'm 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:35.640 glad he's back with I'm glad he's back because now, okay, 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.880 if you didn't like the tight ends play with, don't 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.760 don't bring him. You know, me and Kurt talked about it. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.320 Don't bring him in for on twenty five snaps. If 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.480 he's our best tight end, let's go two tight ends 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.680 the off set, you know, get showed some work, get 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:55.920 some get some work for borrowing. I don't know who's 0:05:55.920 --> 0:06:01.680 gonna be, what's gonna happen with Jeff or whatever, but 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.480 it's time to win. Do you think it's almost all 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.880 or nothing with him? You know he's gonna be full 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.440 time all the time, or you don't need him. The 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.320 reason I think he stays health is because he plays 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.560 in bangs in his body is used to it and 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.640 he you know, he don't stand on the sideline and 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.320 just long periods of time to get cold. Yeah, you know, 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.920 he took a year off his legs as fresh he's 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.479 gonna you know, he's good's good at stretching, keeping his 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.560 body right. You know, when they first brought him, I 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.560 was like, oh my god, what are we doing here? 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.599 But if you, as a coaching staff says that this 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:42.080 guy is the best on the market, better than what 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.279 we got, or improves our team greatly by bringing him back, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.640 bring him back and play him. Don't bring him back 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:53.560 for him to just for what this is just sent 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:58.440 over there. Okay, Yeah, I mean to me, I'm trying 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:04.039 to make sense of not playing him, but I can't. 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:08.600 I keep coming back to if he was not good enough. 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.200 While Jeff Swain, we don't put his his his life 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.560 on nimbo, Like, hey man, if you get a decent 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.680 offer by so we don't put his life in nimbo. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:24.160 Schultz gotta you know it's supposed to be his show 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:30.360 this year. Okay, what we do there, Blake? We know 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.040 he can catch the ball. We know he can catch 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.000 the ball, we know he can play, he can get DVD. 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.720 So what do we do there. So if you think 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.040 witness the man, let's play Whitten one guy. We we 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.040 the last couple of weeks. We haven't mentioned in this conversation, 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.360 is Rico? Is that? Is that done? Is that a 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.240 done deal? Yes? Think I would think so. I mean, 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.120 isn't it kind of the old standard at least for 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.200 Landry's You know, you got three years to show me 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:58.560 something and he's had his three And I mean, obviously 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.120 the talent is there. I don't know if the drivers 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.760 there something I don't know well enough at all. But 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.360 you know what we got Joe. We got Joe, Thomas 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:11.160 Man and Looney Back and Daniel Ross. Guys that care 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:15.440 about playing. You know the other guys. If I don't 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.680 mention their name, you can call it him and say 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.640 all you want. I want guys that care about playing. 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.120 And that last name you mentioned, I don't know how 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:27.640 much you really care about playing. We need ten plus wins. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.880 We don't need to We don't need to go into 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:34.000 this year. And if I get a look seem like 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.920 I'm angry, I look said, look out of joint, it's 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:43.320 because I am. Because these we need guys. I'm tired 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:49.760 of losing and I'm tired of being inconsistent. The goal 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.360 this year should be ten plus wins. And if I 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.040 look at a player, you know, I hope it don't 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:57.560 get me fired. But if I look at a player 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.839 and say this dude can't help us win, because I'm 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:02.720 gonna sit and think, you know, when I talk to 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:06.440 you this weekend, and either I'm thinking that God man, Okay, 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.599 all right, no Swain, you know what we're gonna do 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.760 with Blake, what we're gonna do with shots, Okay, Jason Whitten. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:16.840 It's the best thing on the market because we couldn't 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.720 have got another guy and have for two meals two 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:22.680 point five meal not not a quality tight end that 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:27.560 can flee in line outside the tackle, tight end that 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.520 can give you some some form of blocking or has 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.880 the knowledge to know how to block in certain situations 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:40.280 and give us that that security. That uh that But man, 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.640 Blake Jardon gave us at the end of the year. 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:51.320 Those only three guys, there's only well he's the only 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.760 guy at that price because you weren't gonna bring another 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.200 tight end in here for less than five million dollars. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:10:02.280 Yeah that price, Yeah, Yeah, that's that's interesting. Here he's 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.319 here let him go. Yeah you got I mean, give 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:11.080 me honest opinions, but I'm I'm serious. I mean, you 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.680 know people say progress stop. Okay, Now, if we do 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.880 this now, if we really go to the tight ends, 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:20.000 if Shultz grow, you know, get a little stronger, a 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.640 little more physical, that we're back to the two tight 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.800 ends now, even when it's third and one, where before 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:28.880 we had another choice a third and three where we 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.240 had another choice but to try to run Zeke up 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.600 in there on nine to ten min Now we can 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.800 leak one of these dudes out of here and make 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.400 some things happen. To the waggle the boots, they're moving 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.600 him around them, talking about the quarterback a little Now 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:45.840 that really becomes a viable option where it's last that 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.160 wasn't a vibe, especially when Swain got hurt, you know, 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.959 and Shultz were still slow to catch the speed of 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:56.560 the game. You know. So here we go, man, I mean, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.080 we know with the lead that we know Van Dress 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:00.959 and Jaylen are better than at this point in the careers. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.880 We don't know that yet with the tight ends the 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.280 best one still. Yeah, like you said, give him the 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:10.560 ball again. I mean, hey, was I excited when when 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:15.720 they first. Uh, I was like, oh my god, I'm 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:21.640 like really, yeah, I'm serious. Now I'm gonna be honest, 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.959 you know. But you know, but I can say, calm 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:27.920 down and get the thinking you want ten plus wins, 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:36.920 you know, does I can see Whitton stabilizing his position 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.920 shows that other tight end because remember the other dude 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.679 have Oklahoma that just had head bone on ball. M 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.920 James Hannah. Yeah, never talked about Hannah, but Hannah, I 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.520 promise you if if he could still play, he would 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.360 still be here because he was the other guy that 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.560 could set the edge and we can run to either side. 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.880 Now you didn't know where that ball was or he 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.160 was good enough to catch that one ball a game 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.800 that boom, oh keep it. You know. We go from 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.320 on the average of maybe sixty plays, because when we 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.800 first started it was getting forty eight fifty plays. Now 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:15.920 we're back if teams go according to play. Now we're 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.560 back to this that average of sixty five plays a game. 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.120 When we played sixty five players a game, we played 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.680 the slow sixty five we're running, we're waggling, were getting 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.280 three yards, begetting four yards. We don't play the sixty 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:32.120 five ways, just seventy yards seventy yards touchdown. You get 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.760 what I'm saying. We played that slow grind, so not 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:39.240 our defense set them with arresting. Yeah, you know, I 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:45.280 mean if he's if he's the best option, because if 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:49.079 we don't, if we don't, then we then then it's 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:52.360 like we did last year. We had eight wide receivers, 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.200 eight wide receivers, and we couldn't get between eight guys. 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.360 We couldn't get We couldn't get twenty completions at the 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.479 beginning of the year. Remember, we could not get twenty completions. 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.920 The worst case scenarios if Witten's not the better guy 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.480 and he doesn't want to take on that backup role. 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.839 But yeah, it's hard to say. You won't know that's 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:16.000 on training camp. So we'll see. Okay, okay, worst case scenario. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:20.160 And now now you say, well, ain't causing us about 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:24.720 two million. That's the worst That is the worst case scenario. 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.560 Now they're gonna say, and they cut this, dude, I 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:30.680 want even mentioned that, Oh they cut such and such, 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.400 and what's the difference both of them standing up on 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:39.840 the sideline? Come on, man, all right, free agency start today? 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.520 Is I guess what they call legal tampering. Tampering started yesterday, 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.240 yesterday where they can talk to uh yes, saw that, 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:53.640 but it teams. I'm gonna tell you something, man. I 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.400 don't mean to cut you up. I got much on 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:59.439 my mind. Let me tell you something man. Missus Stevens 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:03.120 Jones is always said, we're gonna sign our own, you know, 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:08.679 and and I'm not panicking about d law. I'm not okay. 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:13.400 We got Joe Thomas signed. We you know, that was 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.080 a must for me. It's certain guys that I like 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.160 to see Joe Looney, thank you, because now he can 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.400 not only compete at this our backup center, but he 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.000 can compete at the left guard position that giving us depth. 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.200 Daniel Ross showed to be very, very solid last year. 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.200 I still think we need to drive a big, big horse, 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:36.520 you know. Alan Hearns evidently he's getting healthy in things 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:41.000 so that you can't tell me. Alan Hearns moving down 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.560 in the slot with the two guys outside and bas 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:48.400 don't show back up. We got with we gotta force, 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:51.280 and we got barring, we gotta we got a chance. 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.480 We got a chance. So those I think with some 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.880 good sign that Darian Thompson got I don't know much 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:00.600 about Justin marsh Lively. Glad to have him back. You know, 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.360 I told a lot of guys the little radio show 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.920 I do. I said, hey, fellas, don't be surprised if 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:12.120 we sign a lot of small contracts first, and maybe 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.120 one mid range contract before we get to d Law. 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.560 You know, don't don't panic, you know, don't panic. H 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.120 d Laws a little upset. You know, I've been kind 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.240 of getting outside. You know, people have been you know, Yeah, 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.760 we're gonna touch your feelings, d Law, but I pray 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:32.840 to give your money. Well that talk about that signing 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.240 a bunch of these little guys, letting them not test 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.440 the market any expensive guys who come them a little guy. 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:43.880 None of them are professional. So wow, look at a 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:49.400 little production valut see how it comes into all's commercial breaks. 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.200 Oh you put the challenge out. Let's see how that works. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:58.360 Um Earl Thomas. Everybody's talked about him for the last 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.480 year and linked him to hear and he's come out 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.720 and said he's not taking a hometown discount. I tried 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:08.360 to sell everybody. Do you do you think they're still 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:13.000 I think he might wind up here. I think I 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.000 don't know. Cowboys are giving up. I think they're gonna 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:16.760 make him an offer. They'll go after him a little bit, 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:18.320 but I don't know if they give him the best, 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:24.080 most money, that might be the deciding factor. This is 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.160 what's so funny. And I notice is just a starting 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.240 mark with him and his agent. I've heard fifteen Meal, 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.760 I've heard thirteen Meal, and I've heard twelve Meal. That 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.160 might be too high, you know for this team and 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:42.160 U T and I'm thinking the Cowboys thinking seven, eight, 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.640 nine and ten at the most. Now, I have not 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:54.840 talked to nobody, but you can't. Yeah they can. I 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:58.920 mean they can work magic, but you can't get d 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:05.960 Law or Thomas dad Z and all these guys. Yeah, 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.640 and the next two and then this year and next year. 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.800 These guys we just talked about. Glad to have maybe 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:18.520 the only guys we have true you know what I'm saying. 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.440 Do you think it's safety or position? You shouldn't spend 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:25.000 that big kind of big money on on this team. 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.960 They don't value it as much as maybe another team 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:34.679 would that because the Ravens. The Ravens value safeties, Uh, 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:39.159 what's you call it? Value safeties? The seat They value 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.480 safeties some teams value, say is that a system deal? 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.480 Get well, yeah, they pay certain guys. Uh, some guys 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.600 ain't gonna pay offensive linement as much. Some guys will. 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.720 We do we do? Maybe that's changing for sure, though 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.800 they could. Maybe I don't know, you know what, I 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:01.159 don't know. I don't A lot of things is in 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:07.320 flux this year with coach Garrett not having being locked down. Uh, 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.560 we got a lot of one year guys that we've 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:13.919 signed to won your options. So Cowboys kind of to 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.440 me keeping it, you know, keeping their options open. Uh. 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:21.520 Did they resign coach with shot to any extended period 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.359 of time? And that's what I'm saying. So there's a 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.399 lot of things in flux, And you know what, I 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:31.480 don't think all that's necessarily a bad thing. Like maybe 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.600 some people need to be uncomfortable. Maybe maybe you need 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:36.159 to go into a year going you know what I 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.480 need to I need to ball out, you know. Maybe 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.200 that's I don't know. I'm not but I'm we've tried 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:47.480 it the other way. Let's maybe maybe this is a 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:49.879 good thing. I don't know. I would like it if 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.280 I was in their shoes, But I mean, you know, 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.679 you've done it the other way. Why not let's say, Okay, 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:58.120 here we go, let's roll. That's true. I think they're 0:18:58.119 --> 0:18:59.760 going to be forced into that position. Some of those 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:01.359 guys are gonna have to They're gonna be on a 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.760 hot scene a little bit. It's just it's just amazing 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:10.800 how we look at things as fans, you know, how 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:14.960 we get pumped up for things, and it's a lot. 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.800 You know, it's a lot going to building a team 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:22.640 that you have to think about. And you got enough 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:26.560 young players now as you can kind of project if 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.960 they barring injury, barring a bad injury, you can kind 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:34.560 of project who they are and who need to be paid. 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:39.920 But I think in some ways like they had these 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:44.080 young guys, but they couldn't do a whole lot extra 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.720 because they had so much dead money. Yees, salary cap 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.119 was blown away. Well now they have the salary cap space, 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.000 but now they got to pay all these young guys, 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.159 and so they're almost right back in the same position 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:57.840 where they don't have nobility. So nah, I think, I mean, 0:19:57.880 --> 0:19:59.760 how can they bring in anybody else when they've got 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.119 Now that ain't that ain't that ain't the ticket? Now 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.480 that ain't what they've been preaching the last three years 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.480 round here. It ain't it ain't a been about. They 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.200 have literally told us, if we can get through free 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:14.520 agents without signing one person, we will do it. Right Okay, 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.360 you say you, I mean we let three or four 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:23.159 guys go last year, go to other teams because because 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:27.040 of that dead money. Okay, now you don't have to 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:31.440 do that. You you can get everybody kind of halfway 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:36.919 fitted under the cap, you know if you Now it 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:41.520 comes down to the in house scouting and really knowing, Okay, 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:43.000 this is the guy we need to sign. We don't 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.399 need to sign Nate. We need to sign Shannon. We 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.240 got to you know what I'm saying, and being confident 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.720 in knowing that Shannon gonna give you everything he got. Well, 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.680 I guess the concern is, like, you know they're gonna 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:58.280 sign the Marcus for twenty twenty five million or whatever. 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:02.800 They're gonna the better Signmari Cooper again because they just 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:04.639 traded a number one pick for him. That's gonna be 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:08.199 another sixteen million or whatever. You've got Dak. You know 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.280 they're gonna sign him. That's the twenty five thirty. Are 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:12.240 you all this money you'd be spending on free agents? 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:14.160 You got to spend it on your own guys now, right, 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.159 So how can you bring in an Earl Thomas or 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:18.520 something like that, spend that big kind of money on 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:20.560 a big free age. It almost seems like they're hand strunk, 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:23.520 hand strunk a little game. No, they know, they not, 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:28.480 they not. This is this is the thing is see, 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:30.680 and he just how I felt. I felt this way 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:33.960 last year. You know, I was telling you it ain't 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:38.479 signing or I mean you know, I mean I'm not 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:43.320 in their meetings. And then but what's the advantage to 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:46.119 sign an or what advantage is? He's a playmaker and 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.240 he can make it everybody on your back in better 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:53.400 you know, but everybody needs a better back in. Yeah. Yeah, 0:21:53.440 --> 0:22:01.480 but the thirteen million, Alice, No, you know, yeah, I'm 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:05.159 with him made as much as out like Earl, But 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:08.719 I think they're interested. But I think both of you 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.440 are right. I think what he wants and what they're 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:14.800 willing to give, I think it's too far apart. You know, 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:18.320 give me give ten million. I'm probably in on that. 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:20.840 I can figure out who doesn't need to be here 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:22.919 to get that guy in here because he, I mean, 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:24.359 you see what he can do. He can change a 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:27.880 game single handedly. But I mean, if it's gonna put 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:31.960 me in cap hell like they were you know, two, three, 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:35.600 four or five six years ago. M I don't say 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:37.760 that's That's the tricky thing now is you're if you're 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:39.760 in win now mode. If you got these young guys 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:41.919 that you're ready, you know you you made it to 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:44.600 the divisional round, you're ready to take that next step? 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:48.040 Can you do it without bringing somebody in? You know, 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:51.359 it's it's a it's a tough situation. I mean, it's 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:55.119 it's hard to manage that cap. I think Stephen Jones 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:58.280 and Jerry Jones are doing a better job at it. 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:00.480 But how do you if you're in win now, how 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:04.480 do you bring in at key piece? It's been that 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:06.960 kind of money without wrecking everything else. What you gotta 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:14.960 do is you gotta guarantee a lot of money on 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:20.280 short periods of time. And that way, if you got 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:22.080 a bad see this is just a deal. When you 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:26.000 saw talking about five years and a guy don't turn 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:28.439 out to be what you think he is, you you 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.120 get trust. But if you do a three year deal, 0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:34.040 you may overpay him a little bit. You know, you 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.160 you you gotta walk your way out of that, but 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.360 you can't walk your way out of five years. It hurts. 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:43.040 Let's take a quick break. When we come back, let's 0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:48.000 talk more free agency and other stuff. Taylor is going 0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:51.080 to join the show. Today's gonna blow us off. No, well, 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.040 what to ask her? Why she blow us off the 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:56.520