Speaker 1: Glad you showed up today. Kurt Banks, appreciate before listening
Speaker 1: as good doctor. If your heart is healthy enough for
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys football, He's hanging with the boys. Broadcasting live
Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star in Frisco.
Speaker 1: Now your host Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross
Speaker 1: Monday who who? I don't know what's going on with this, Mike,
Speaker 1: I don't know. We have a very special guests producer today.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. William Boykins. All right, mister hotboys himself.
Speaker 1: You can say something, William? He so can he put
Speaker 1: his seven up on the screen. I don't know. He
Speaker 1: sounds like he's struggling to put anything up. So you're
Speaker 1: not to put seven on the screen? Will you don't
Speaker 1: worry about it? Wow? Well, thank you, William. Bro Will
Speaker 1: that's bro Will Douglas. Douglas is out on spring break
Speaker 1: with the kids and Kent had to go film for
Speaker 1: a Deep Blue documentary. And I think just about everybody's
Speaker 1: out except four of us. It's so quiet around here.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you take off spring break? You got a
Speaker 1: house full of I might take a little time off later,
Speaker 1: but just other stuff going on, like, what what are
Speaker 1: you that busy with right now? Well, part of us
Speaker 1: already missed sometime and so now and nobody knows. Hod on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, he said, He's meant when we
Speaker 1: needed you the most as when you won't him. Bro, Yeah,
Speaker 1: not take all about us. You want to show up
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, you're right, all right, let's get out
Speaker 1: of here. About two o'clock today, al what are you
Speaker 1: doing for spring break? Nothing? Man? My son is my
Speaker 1: baby boys down and Fortlight. I just gave him a call.
Speaker 1: You know what you've been doing some man? Dad? If
Speaker 1: we went to Miami, I said, yeah, that's where the
Speaker 1: stars go vacation, And I said, you ain't a star,
Speaker 1: all right, keep your nose. Do you do anythink this weekend? Anything? Fun? Um?
Speaker 1: I don't know my wife? Man? Yeah, yeah that's fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that oh dad, definitely fun. Man. I'm married now about
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen years. And then you know, you know, then
Speaker 1: I got a little thing pop up saying something about
Speaker 1: Sean Lee. I don't even know what that said. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's get into that. I'm glad you brought that.
Speaker 1: We got all kind of good stuff. Free agency. Start serious, man,
Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with a wife and I was saying,
Speaker 1: Sean Live is back. I'm like, but he got to
Speaker 1: hear the album or something as you're gonna wrap you know,
Speaker 1: got Beasley and they thought did like to hear that.
Speaker 1: I don't even know he left? I mean, so what's
Speaker 1: the deal Kurt? There was ern he might leave. What happened?
Speaker 1: They basically restructured his salary cut in half. I think,
Speaker 1: are you all right? Now? Look like seven million now
Speaker 1: it's down to like three and a him. Here's my
Speaker 1: question for you. Yeah, we have this youth movement that
Speaker 1: we started yes through two three years ago, and now
Speaker 1: we don't mess the curve up brow old man with
Speaker 1: gold jacket whip back. Yeah, now we're bringing Shawn Lee's back.
Speaker 1: So now are we are these good moves in your opinion?
Speaker 1: I like the Sean Lee MoU for sure, because I
Speaker 1: think he understands his role. He said in the un
Speaker 1: last season he knew he'd be a reserve and he's
Speaker 1: here to help those guys, and he has helped those guys.
Speaker 1: I think he's a big mentor for Jalen Smith and Vandrees.
Speaker 1: I think they've already said that he's a huge help.
Speaker 1: So I don't especially now that they're at seven million,
Speaker 1: he probably wouldn't have been worth it, but that he's
Speaker 1: willing to restructure. He knows his role. I like that move. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's good with man. I'll tell you what when
Speaker 1: every We'll get to that in a second. For everybody
Speaker 1: that gets mad at these players for wanting their money,
Speaker 1: think about how quick this game turns on you. Shaun
Speaker 1: Lee was starting, was one of the best. Yeah, could
Speaker 1: have been one of the best to ever do it
Speaker 1: if you could have stayed healthy. But a year ago
Speaker 1: he was starting, it was like nobody's gonna take his spot.
Speaker 1: And now a year later he's coming back as a
Speaker 1: reserve role for these two young guys that have been bought.
Speaker 1: So I think he's essentially a player coach now. I
Speaker 1: mean he's that's kind of his role, and I think
Speaker 1: he understands that once that. I'm good with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm good. What do you think, Nate? You know, uh,
Speaker 1: just like with Witten, you know, Witnes is different. I
Speaker 1: mean it's a win it's a win now thing with
Speaker 1: me and Sean Lee and his role, I think it
Speaker 1: is great. But I'm hoping that this is it. I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that because you can't have five or six guys
Speaker 1: thirty plus years old on your roster and all on
Speaker 1: the hey, it is the leader of the team and
Speaker 1: the leaders of what's out there on the field, playing
Speaker 1: and contributing and making a difference. So yes, you're making
Speaker 1: help with the film, but that don't have to speed
Speaker 1: or the game, you know. So, uh, Sean Lee, I'm
Speaker 1: glad he's back with I'm glad he's back because now, okay,
Speaker 1: if you didn't like the tight ends play with, don't
Speaker 1: don't bring him. You know, me and Kurt talked about it.
Speaker 1: Don't bring him in for on twenty five snaps. If
Speaker 1: he's our best tight end, let's go two tight ends
Speaker 1: the off set, you know, get showed some work, get
Speaker 1: some get some work for borrowing. I don't know who's
Speaker 1: gonna be, what's gonna happen with Jeff or whatever, but
Speaker 1: it's time to win. Do you think it's almost all
Speaker 1: or nothing with him? You know he's gonna be full
Speaker 1: time all the time, or you don't need him. The
Speaker 1: reason I think he stays health is because he plays
Speaker 1: in bangs in his body is used to it and
Speaker 1: he you know, he don't stand on the sideline and
Speaker 1: just long periods of time to get cold. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: he took a year off his legs as fresh he's
Speaker 1: gonna you know, he's good's good at stretching, keeping his
Speaker 1: body right. You know, when they first brought him, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: But if you, as a coaching staff says that this
Speaker 1: guy is the best on the market, better than what
Speaker 1: we got, or improves our team greatly by bringing him back,
Speaker 1: bring him back and play him. Don't bring him back
Speaker 1: for him to just for what this is just sent
Speaker 1: over there. Okay, Yeah, I mean to me, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to make sense of not playing him, but I can't.
Speaker 1: I keep coming back to if he was not good enough.
Speaker 1: While Jeff Swain, we don't put his his his life
Speaker 1: on nimbo, Like, hey man, if you get a decent
Speaker 1: offer by so we don't put his life in nimbo.
Speaker 1: Schultz gotta you know it's supposed to be his show
Speaker 1: this year. Okay, what we do there, Blake? We know
Speaker 1: he can catch the ball. We know he can catch
Speaker 1: the ball, we know he can play, he can get DVD.
Speaker 1: So what do we do there. So if you think
Speaker 1: witness the man, let's play Whitten one guy. We we
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. We haven't mentioned in this conversation,
Speaker 1: is Rico? Is that? Is that done? Is that a
Speaker 1: done deal? Yes? Think I would think so. I mean,
Speaker 1: isn't it kind of the old standard at least for
Speaker 1: Landry's You know, you got three years to show me
Speaker 1: something and he's had his three And I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: the talent is there. I don't know if the drivers
Speaker 1: there something I don't know well enough at all. But
Speaker 1: you know what we got Joe. We got Joe, Thomas
Speaker 1: Man and Looney Back and Daniel Ross. Guys that care
Speaker 1: about playing. You know the other guys. If I don't
Speaker 1: mention their name, you can call it him and say
Speaker 1: all you want. I want guys that care about playing.
Speaker 1: And that last name you mentioned, I don't know how
Speaker 1: much you really care about playing. We need ten plus wins.
Speaker 1: We don't need to We don't need to go into
Speaker 1: this year. And if I get a look seem like
Speaker 1: I'm angry, I look said, look out of joint, it's
Speaker 1: because I am. Because these we need guys. I'm tired
Speaker 1: of losing and I'm tired of being inconsistent. The goal
Speaker 1: this year should be ten plus wins. And if I
Speaker 1: look at a player, you know, I hope it don't
Speaker 1: get me fired. But if I look at a player
Speaker 1: and say this dude can't help us win, because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna sit and think, you know, when I talk to
Speaker 1: you this weekend, and either I'm thinking that God man, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, no Swain, you know what we're gonna do
Speaker 1: with Blake, what we're gonna do with shots, Okay, Jason Whitten.
Speaker 1: It's the best thing on the market because we couldn't
Speaker 1: have got another guy and have for two meals two
Speaker 1: point five meal not not a quality tight end that
Speaker 1: can flee in line outside the tackle, tight end that
Speaker 1: can give you some some form of blocking or has
Speaker 1: the knowledge to know how to block in certain situations
Speaker 1: and give us that that security. That uh that But man,
Speaker 1: Blake Jardon gave us at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: Those only three guys, there's only well he's the only
Speaker 1: guy at that price because you weren't gonna bring another
Speaker 1: tight end in here for less than five million dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah that price, Yeah, Yeah, that's that's interesting. Here he's
Speaker 1: here let him go. Yeah you got I mean, give
Speaker 1: me honest opinions, but I'm I'm serious. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know people say progress stop. Okay, Now, if we do
Speaker 1: this now, if we really go to the tight ends,
Speaker 1: if Shultz grow, you know, get a little stronger, a
Speaker 1: little more physical, that we're back to the two tight
Speaker 1: ends now, even when it's third and one, where before
Speaker 1: we had another choice a third and three where we
Speaker 1: had another choice but to try to run Zeke up
Speaker 1: in there on nine to ten min Now we can
Speaker 1: leak one of these dudes out of here and make
Speaker 1: some things happen. To the waggle the boots, they're moving
Speaker 1: him around them, talking about the quarterback a little Now
Speaker 1: that really becomes a viable option where it's last that
Speaker 1: wasn't a vibe, especially when Swain got hurt, you know,
Speaker 1: and Shultz were still slow to catch the speed of
Speaker 1: the game. You know. So here we go, man, I mean,
Speaker 1: we know with the lead that we know Van Dress
Speaker 1: and Jaylen are better than at this point in the careers.
Speaker 1: We don't know that yet with the tight ends the
Speaker 1: best one still. Yeah, like you said, give him the
Speaker 1: ball again. I mean, hey, was I excited when when
Speaker 1: they first. Uh, I was like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: like really, yeah, I'm serious. Now I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 1: you know. But you know, but I can say, calm
Speaker 1: down and get the thinking you want ten plus wins,
Speaker 1: you know, does I can see Whitton stabilizing his position
Speaker 1: shows that other tight end because remember the other dude
Speaker 1: have Oklahoma that just had head bone on ball. M
Speaker 1: James Hannah. Yeah, never talked about Hannah, but Hannah, I
Speaker 1: promise you if if he could still play, he would
Speaker 1: still be here because he was the other guy that
Speaker 1: could set the edge and we can run to either side.
Speaker 1: Now you didn't know where that ball was or he
Speaker 1: was good enough to catch that one ball a game
Speaker 1: that boom, oh keep it. You know. We go from
Speaker 1: on the average of maybe sixty plays, because when we
Speaker 1: first started it was getting forty eight fifty plays. Now
Speaker 1: we're back if teams go according to play. Now we're
Speaker 1: back to this that average of sixty five plays a game.
Speaker 1: When we played sixty five players a game, we played
Speaker 1: the slow sixty five we're running, we're waggling, were getting
Speaker 1: three yards, begetting four yards. We don't play the sixty
Speaker 1: five ways, just seventy yards seventy yards touchdown. You get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We played that slow grind, so not
Speaker 1: our defense set them with arresting. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean if he's if he's the best option, because if
Speaker 1: we don't, if we don't, then we then then it's
Speaker 1: like we did last year. We had eight wide receivers,
Speaker 1: eight wide receivers, and we couldn't get between eight guys.
Speaker 1: We couldn't get We couldn't get twenty completions at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the year. Remember, we could not get twenty completions.
Speaker 1: The worst case scenarios if Witten's not the better guy
Speaker 1: and he doesn't want to take on that backup role.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's hard to say. You won't know that's
Speaker 1: on training camp. So we'll see. Okay, okay, worst case scenario.
Speaker 1: And now now you say, well, ain't causing us about
Speaker 1: two million. That's the worst That is the worst case scenario.
Speaker 1: Now they're gonna say, and they cut this, dude, I
Speaker 1: want even mentioned that, Oh they cut such and such,
Speaker 1: and what's the difference both of them standing up on
Speaker 1: the sideline? Come on, man, all right, free agency start today?
Speaker 1: Is I guess what they call legal tampering. Tampering started yesterday,
Speaker 1: yesterday where they can talk to uh yes, saw that,
Speaker 1: but it teams. I'm gonna tell you something, man. I
Speaker 1: don't mean to cut you up. I got much on
Speaker 1: my mind. Let me tell you something man. Missus Stevens
Speaker 1: Jones is always said, we're gonna sign our own, you know,
Speaker 1: and and I'm not panicking about d law. I'm not okay.
Speaker 1: We got Joe Thomas signed. We you know, that was
Speaker 1: a must for me. It's certain guys that I like
Speaker 1: to see Joe Looney, thank you, because now he can
Speaker 1: not only compete at this our backup center, but he
Speaker 1: can compete at the left guard position that giving us depth.
Speaker 1: Daniel Ross showed to be very, very solid last year.
Speaker 1: I still think we need to drive a big, big horse,
Speaker 1: you know. Alan Hearns evidently he's getting healthy in things
Speaker 1: so that you can't tell me. Alan Hearns moving down
Speaker 1: in the slot with the two guys outside and bas
Speaker 1: don't show back up. We got with we gotta force,
Speaker 1: and we got barring, we gotta we got a chance.
Speaker 1: We got a chance. So those I think with some
Speaker 1: good sign that Darian Thompson got I don't know much
Speaker 1: about Justin marsh Lively. Glad to have him back. You know,
Speaker 1: I told a lot of guys the little radio show
Speaker 1: I do. I said, hey, fellas, don't be surprised if
Speaker 1: we sign a lot of small contracts first, and maybe
Speaker 1: one mid range contract before we get to d Law.
Speaker 1: You know, don't don't panic, you know, don't panic. H
Speaker 1: d Laws a little upset. You know, I've been kind
Speaker 1: of getting outside. You know, people have been you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna touch your feelings, d Law, but I pray
Speaker 1: to give your money. Well that talk about that signing
Speaker 1: a bunch of these little guys, letting them not test
Speaker 1: the market any expensive guys who come them a little guy.
Speaker 1: None of them are professional. So wow, look at a
Speaker 1: little production valut see how it comes into all's commercial breaks.
Speaker 1: Oh you put the challenge out. Let's see how that works.
Speaker 1: Um Earl Thomas. Everybody's talked about him for the last
Speaker 1: year and linked him to hear and he's come out
Speaker 1: and said he's not taking a hometown discount. I tried
Speaker 1: to sell everybody. Do you do you think they're still
Speaker 1: I think he might wind up here. I think I
Speaker 1: don't know. Cowboys are giving up. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: make him an offer. They'll go after him a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if they give him the best,
Speaker 1: most money, that might be the deciding factor. This is
Speaker 1: what's so funny. And I notice is just a starting
Speaker 1: mark with him and his agent. I've heard fifteen Meal,
Speaker 1: I've heard thirteen Meal, and I've heard twelve Meal. That
Speaker 1: might be too high, you know for this team and
Speaker 1: U T and I'm thinking the Cowboys thinking seven, eight,
Speaker 1: nine and ten at the most. Now, I have not
Speaker 1: talked to nobody, but you can't. Yeah they can. I
Speaker 1: mean they can work magic, but you can't get d
Speaker 1: Law or Thomas dad Z and all these guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the next two and then this year and next year.
Speaker 1: These guys we just talked about. Glad to have maybe
Speaker 1: the only guys we have true you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's safety or position? You shouldn't spend
Speaker 1: that big kind of big money on on this team.
Speaker 1: They don't value it as much as maybe another team
Speaker 1: would that because the Ravens. The Ravens value safeties, Uh,
Speaker 1: what's you call it? Value safeties? The seat They value
Speaker 1: safeties some teams value, say is that a system deal?
Speaker 1: Get well, yeah, they pay certain guys. Uh, some guys
Speaker 1: ain't gonna pay offensive linement as much. Some guys will.
Speaker 1: We do we do? Maybe that's changing for sure, though
Speaker 1: they could. Maybe I don't know, you know what, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't A lot of things is in
Speaker 1: flux this year with coach Garrett not having being locked down. Uh,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of one year guys that we've
Speaker 1: signed to won your options. So Cowboys kind of to
Speaker 1: me keeping it, you know, keeping their options open. Uh.
Speaker 1: Did they resign coach with shot to any extended period
Speaker 1: of time? And that's what I'm saying. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things in flux, And you know what, I
Speaker 1: don't think all that's necessarily a bad thing. Like maybe
Speaker 1: some people need to be uncomfortable. Maybe maybe you need
Speaker 1: to go into a year going you know what I
Speaker 1: need to I need to ball out, you know. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's I don't know. I'm not but I'm we've tried
Speaker 1: it the other way. Let's maybe maybe this is a
Speaker 1: good thing. I don't know. I would like it if
Speaker 1: I was in their shoes, But I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you've done it the other way. Why not let's say, Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, let's roll. That's true. I think they're
Speaker 1: going to be forced into that position. Some of those
Speaker 1: guys are gonna have to They're gonna be on a
Speaker 1: hot scene a little bit. It's just it's just amazing
Speaker 1: how we look at things as fans, you know, how
Speaker 1: we get pumped up for things, and it's a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot going to building a team
Speaker 1: that you have to think about. And you got enough
Speaker 1: young players now as you can kind of project if
Speaker 1: they barring injury, barring a bad injury, you can kind
Speaker 1: of project who they are and who need to be paid.
Speaker 1: But I think in some ways like they had these
Speaker 1: young guys, but they couldn't do a whole lot extra
Speaker 1: because they had so much dead money. Yees, salary cap
Speaker 1: was blown away. Well now they have the salary cap space,
Speaker 1: but now they got to pay all these young guys,
Speaker 1: and so they're almost right back in the same position
Speaker 1: where they don't have nobility. So nah, I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: how can they bring in anybody else when they've got
Speaker 1: Now that ain't that ain't that ain't the ticket? Now
Speaker 1: that ain't what they've been preaching the last three years
Speaker 1: round here. It ain't it ain't a been about. They
Speaker 1: have literally told us, if we can get through free
Speaker 1: agents without signing one person, we will do it. Right Okay,
Speaker 1: you say you, I mean we let three or four
Speaker 1: guys go last year, go to other teams because because
Speaker 1: of that dead money. Okay, now you don't have to
Speaker 1: do that. You you can get everybody kind of halfway
Speaker 1: fitted under the cap, you know if you Now it
Speaker 1: comes down to the in house scouting and really knowing, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the guy we need to sign. We don't
Speaker 1: need to sign Nate. We need to sign Shannon. We
Speaker 1: got to you know what I'm saying, and being confident
Speaker 1: in knowing that Shannon gonna give you everything he got. Well,
Speaker 1: I guess the concern is, like, you know they're gonna
Speaker 1: sign the Marcus for twenty twenty five million or whatever.
Speaker 1: They're gonna the better Signmari Cooper again because they just
Speaker 1: traded a number one pick for him. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: another sixteen million or whatever. You've got Dak. You know
Speaker 1: they're gonna sign him. That's the twenty five thirty. Are
Speaker 1: you all this money you'd be spending on free agents?
Speaker 1: You got to spend it on your own guys now, right,
Speaker 1: So how can you bring in an Earl Thomas or
Speaker 1: something like that, spend that big kind of money on
Speaker 1: a big free age. It almost seems like they're hand strunk,
Speaker 1: hand strunk a little game. No, they know, they not,
Speaker 1: they not. This is this is the thing is see,
Speaker 1: and he just how I felt. I felt this way
Speaker 1: last year. You know, I was telling you it ain't
Speaker 1: signing or I mean you know, I mean I'm not
Speaker 1: in their meetings. And then but what's the advantage to
Speaker 1: sign an or what advantage is? He's a playmaker and
Speaker 1: he can make it everybody on your back in better
Speaker 1: you know, but everybody needs a better back in. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the thirteen million, Alice, No, you know, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: with him made as much as out like Earl, But
Speaker 1: I think they're interested. But I think both of you
Speaker 1: are right. I think what he wants and what they're
Speaker 1: willing to give, I think it's too far apart. You know,
Speaker 1: give me give ten million. I'm probably in on that.
Speaker 1: I can figure out who doesn't need to be here
Speaker 1: to get that guy in here because he, I mean,
Speaker 1: you see what he can do. He can change a
Speaker 1: game single handedly. But I mean, if it's gonna put
Speaker 1: me in cap hell like they were you know, two, three,
Speaker 1: four or five six years ago. M I don't say
Speaker 1: that's That's the tricky thing now is you're if you're
Speaker 1: in win now mode. If you got these young guys
Speaker 1: that you're ready, you know you you made it to
Speaker 1: the divisional round, you're ready to take that next step?
Speaker 1: Can you do it without bringing somebody in? You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a tough situation. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's hard to manage that cap. I think Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: and Jerry Jones are doing a better job at it.
Speaker 1: But how do you if you're in win now, how
Speaker 1: do you bring in at key piece? It's been that
Speaker 1: kind of money without wrecking everything else. What you gotta
Speaker 1: do is you gotta guarantee a lot of money on
Speaker 1: short periods of time. And that way, if you got
Speaker 1: a bad see this is just a deal. When you
Speaker 1: saw talking about five years and a guy don't turn
Speaker 1: out to be what you think he is, you you
Speaker 1: get trust. But if you do a three year deal,
Speaker 1: you may overpay him a little bit. You know, you
Speaker 1: you you gotta walk your way out of that, but
Speaker 1: you can't walk your way out of five years. It hurts.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. When we come back, let's
Speaker 1: talk more free agency and other stuff. Taylor is going
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be hungover. I'm not gonna be hungover. I
Speaker 1: having a friend coming in town for the weekend for
Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's Day in Dallas, so you'll be hung over them.
Speaker 1: He flies out Monday late afternoon, so after after babysitting Monday, nice,
Speaker 1: So you're kind of in charge now right, everybody's gone. No,
Speaker 1: I think, so I'm not in charge, you are, No,
Speaker 1: Derek's always in charge even when he's not here. It's
Speaker 1: weird around the building today because it's spring break and
Speaker 1: everyone a lot of people get their vacation in this week,
Speaker 1: so it's very quiet around here. I think the is
Speaker 1: the is the I think the family's on vacation too.
Speaker 1: Is this the week they're usually going? Probably would think so,
Speaker 1: very sure their kids are on spring break too. Very
Speaker 1: quiet in the building, almost eerily quiet. Like I pulled
Speaker 1: in the parking garage this morning and like there were
Speaker 1: no cars in the parking garage, so right right. And
Speaker 1: Sony Brown to the Raiders, is that where he's going.
Speaker 1: There's rumors that him and le Beyond both are gonna
Speaker 1: wind up with the Raiders. That would be that's kind
Speaker 1: of strange, the Raiders give up Cooper and then bringing Brown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I got more. I don't know. And Coopers
Speaker 1: such like man when he got here. He is such
Speaker 1: the anti wide receiver personality. Most of those guys have
Speaker 1: their boisterous and loud and very outspoken, and he is
Speaker 1: the quietest human being. He's probably the quietest guy in
Speaker 1: that locker room, hands down. So that's tackle Brown Lee's
Speaker 1: passed for Raiders. What about saw Justin Houston got let
Speaker 1: go by Kansas City? Any interest in that? No, maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're about to be honest, now,
Speaker 1: don't be worth kicking the time. Where do you think
Speaker 1: they need help, Kurt? Where do they need help? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Excuse me, deferensive line D line. If you're good everywhere else,
Speaker 1: you're good at safety. I mean you're always upgrade. But
Speaker 1: I think defensive lines. But if you were gonna go
Speaker 1: pay somebody, pay somebody, I like Nate's idea, have a
Speaker 1: big old fire plug in the middle there to stop somebody.
Speaker 1: So if you were gonna go a free agency and
Speaker 1: get somebody offense or defense, yeah, I mean I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna get Sue and pay him his kind of money,
Speaker 1: but I would spend some on the defensive alignement. What
Speaker 1: if you could get Sue for a one year deal
Speaker 1: for about for about eight millions, you better be ready
Speaker 1: to go to the Super Bowl if you're gonna bring
Speaker 1: him in. I think, like the Rams, I think that
Speaker 1: was a that was a big missing missing piece for
Speaker 1: them and he helped him. Yeah, in the playoffs. If
Speaker 1: you if you paid somebody Nate, what position would you
Speaker 1: pay the middle of the defensive same as Kurt? I
Speaker 1: got to have it man. Yeah, would you let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, would you rather if you could get
Speaker 1: a stud draft pick or a stud established guy that
Speaker 1: you could probably give a three year deal to that
Speaker 1: you know, you know what his body of work is
Speaker 1: and you know he's gonna be good. Would you a
Speaker 1: veteran guy? Would you? How come? Because I win and
Speaker 1: win now, Mold, I can't win on it. I can't
Speaker 1: wait and see if you develop a guy or not,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's rare when you get a guy
Speaker 1: to just come in his league and take over. You know,
Speaker 1: I can't. You know, here's some defensive tackle free agent
Speaker 1: you got to sue, of course, Timmy Jernigan, Corey Legott,
Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson, Alan Bailey, Kyle Williams, Muhammad Wilkerson, and he
Speaker 1: knows a lot team to Gota and he knows Benny Logan.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, my friend. If they stick
Speaker 1: to what they're doing is saying they're gonna sign they guys,
Speaker 1: that's fine. But I just I can't wait to see
Speaker 1: who we draft with with with with with the fifty
Speaker 1: eighth pick, is I'm correct a fifty to four or
Speaker 1: fifty six. I want to be sitting there looking at
Speaker 1: TV with the fifty to sixth picker the draft. The
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys take the left side of all New York.
Speaker 1: They we just went over to the U the National
Speaker 1: Utility Spotting got every five hundred. They sung, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: You know what we need to lobby for. We need
Speaker 1: to lobby to let Nate make one of our picks
Speaker 1: this year. Next year in the draft, oh they you
Speaker 1: know what, And if they don't give me a diva's alignment,
Speaker 1: I will go up there and say, the Cowboys take
Speaker 1: with the fifty six and I would pick me a diva. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how great? Now that's who I want? How great would
Speaker 1: that be? He just has a guy. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the guy that Nate knew his pick. Now,
Speaker 1: mister Jones. I know I won't never be a part
Speaker 1: of your family no more. I know I won't be
Speaker 1: in the family portrait. But hey, I'm trying to say
Speaker 1: the franchise, man, you hilarious. You should get Robert Blackwell
Speaker 1: on he's not very talkative. Yeah, what'd he come on?
Speaker 1: That's I don't know. I think he might. He's the
Speaker 1: one that actually turns the card in. I would love
Speaker 1: he's got to have some stories because he's been here
Speaker 1: thirty years and he's the one that actually turns it,
Speaker 1: takes the card up. It goes to the draft every
Speaker 1: year and it's usually him and his I think him
Speaker 1: and his wife and they sit at the table and
Speaker 1: then he gets the call from here, writes it on
Speaker 1: the car, and actually goes and turns the card in.
Speaker 1: So I bet there's I bet he's got some asking
Speaker 1: me if you see him in elect him to day?
Speaker 1: You know what fellas? What would you draft? My friend?
Speaker 1: What would you if you had to have your peat?
Speaker 1: What what would it be? It's got I mean with
Speaker 1: the Irving Irving being gone and Gregory being gone, it's
Speaker 1: got to be it's gotta be d Line. I mean
Speaker 1: in me inside you don't still don't really know what
Speaker 1: you got with Taco, like either inside or out, and
Speaker 1: the way they value defensive lineman. You know you signed
Speaker 1: Daniel Ross and I think he's got potential. He showed flashes.
Speaker 1: He just I don't know if he was consistent enough,
Speaker 1: because he was inactive a lot of games. But I
Speaker 1: thank you probably right there in the middle with you guys,
Speaker 1: the middle interior defensive lineman, and tell you something, man,
Speaker 1: you know, And like I said, I don't know how
Speaker 1: these young players think, but somebody, if I'm Taco, I'll
Speaker 1: be like, man, they just messed up because I'm Finnish.
Speaker 1: Show them that I'm the ball that they draft. He's
Speaker 1: got an opportunity. Yeah, I'll be like him. And Darren's
Speaker 1: aren't strong? Here we go. You know, I just couldn't
Speaker 1: draft the guy and not give him an opportunity, you know,
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about Darren's I'm strong. He's just what
Speaker 1: do you are you hearing anything about him? Because we
Speaker 1: all like good man and we were not good? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but will they put him on the field? I mean,
Speaker 1: will will they give him up? You can say the
Speaker 1: same thing about Taco, right, I mean, they drafted him
Speaker 1: in the first round, and do they need to give
Speaker 1: him that time? You know, it's kind of a back
Speaker 1: last year they trying and and wow, I mean they did.
Speaker 1: They gave him opportunities and uh he didn't. M hm, No,
Speaker 1: you're ready to throw all the guys. Out of all
Speaker 1: the guys they've picked, he's only one. Everybody else kind
Speaker 1: of contributed in some some positive way of fashion. You know. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: hopefully he'll be He was a little banged up last year.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he'll come back, you know. You know, it was
Speaker 1: good to see today. Although no one is in the building,
Speaker 1: there were some guys outside the building today. Yeah. I was.
Speaker 1: Actually I didn't forgot about that that was starting. What
Speaker 1: is that, Kurt, that's the labor captain workouts started. So
Speaker 1: there was a lot of guys out there there were surprised.
Speaker 1: What are the captain's workouts? Well, the team can't um
Speaker 1: lead any of these, ye yeah, so you're not supposed
Speaker 1: to have obviously coaches or even the training staff out there,
Speaker 1: so that the players players running captain kind of voluntary.
Speaker 1: It's voluntary, come work out if you want. Yeah, here's
Speaker 1: whoever's captain, you know, Dak I'll say, hey, we're gonna
Speaker 1: meet this time and do this and that, and so
Speaker 1: I'm sure they are. I mean, there are a lot
Speaker 1: more guys out there than I expected. Yeah, did y'all
Speaker 1: have that when you played Nate, you'll have captain's workout.
Speaker 1: It was Legimi said, this is when you started working out, captain.
Speaker 1: That's why they put all them limits on it, because
Speaker 1: coaches like, hey, this is when we start and and
Speaker 1: you know, you know, March first, be out there. So
Speaker 1: you guys were going March first two, Yeah, you're getting going.
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember how how soon you guys got going
Speaker 1: back in the day. Yeah, but March first, you guys
Speaker 1: were like full blown workouts. Oh man, we was going
Speaker 1: at it, man, same same strength coach though, yeah, so
Speaker 1: but it was more he had more control and you know,
Speaker 1: we had less injuries back then too. Was it that
Speaker 1: way with Landry? Also? Where you'd start teams are really
Speaker 1: good going. Yeah. Yeah. But when it first started with
Speaker 1: coach name, when it first of us saw with coach nine,
Speaker 1: them the guys working there doing offseason. Yeah yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it didn't change into seventies they that they didn't have
Speaker 1: to work. It was later than that. Yeah, back in
Speaker 1: the day training camp. You that's when you came to
Speaker 1: getting shaped. Six weeks, six real weeks. Yeah, And a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't realize these guys they really only
Speaker 1: have like two months of downtime. So you're basically grinding
Speaker 1: ten months out of the year because they're are, and
Speaker 1: then the guys as in the NFC Championship, in the
Speaker 1: FC and Super Bowl, they grinding longer. Yeah. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: also probably celebrating a lot harder too. It's true. It's true.
Speaker 1: There is ear Old Thomas walking into the Cowboys locker
Speaker 1: room on the NFL network. Yeah, you better better specified
Speaker 1: on the NFL network, not in our locker room. We
Speaker 1: have not seen ear Old Thomas at the Star. So
Speaker 1: what do you think about We hadn't been on the
Speaker 1: show since David Irving went did his Instagram live thing.
Speaker 1: What did you think about that? Kurt kind of losing it?
Speaker 1: It seems like it's just out there man, basically. Now,
Speaker 1: I think some of his points are valid, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole opioid thing and players on you know, given
Speaker 1: the prescription drugs and all that. That's that's a difficult
Speaker 1: situation that's gonna have to be addressed sometimes. But I'm
Speaker 1: sure he did it the right way. I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: it like this. I'm gonna put it dislike simple as this.
Speaker 1: Right here, you sign up. There's certain rules you sign up.
Speaker 1: You know you you you can call a hand telling
Speaker 1: me how they can make lead we legal, you can
Speaker 1: do all the things you want to say. Guess what what,
Speaker 1: there's no David Irvy and there's no Randy Gregory. Now
Speaker 1: were we forced to re arrange maybe, and I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was gonna draft, but now you gotta.
Speaker 1: You have no other choice but to re arrange your draft,
Speaker 1: all your all, your free agency because you know, you know,
Speaker 1: lost two guys and people I plan for. You can't
Speaker 1: playing for that lack. You didn't come playing for Jason
Speaker 1: Witten leaving last year. Jack, You can't playing for a
Speaker 1: major injury, you know. But you have to go with
Speaker 1: what you see and what you know. You cannot you
Speaker 1: hurt your team. So now this year when we draft,
Speaker 1: we have no room. The second round pick is where
Speaker 1: we normally pick pickny type guys. Well, guess what, we
Speaker 1: don't have that second round pick because this is our
Speaker 1: first We gotta go out and get a guy that
Speaker 1: can help us. Yep. You know, if you have a
Speaker 1: major injury, that's one thing, but just just to say,
Speaker 1: oh man, well he he got something wrong with him mentally,
Speaker 1: and this is another now saying we don't have him
Speaker 1: cause of that. Yeah, kind of sad because I mean
Speaker 1: I listened to it, man, I mean sped out of David.
Speaker 1: Everyone did what he did, you know, and then he's
Speaker 1: saying all what he's saying it out and then people,
Speaker 1: well he's right, you know, no, he's wrong the rules
Speaker 1: and through the Players Association says hey, man, we got
Speaker 1: two months before we check everybody for we quit smoking weed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean these guys know when it's coming, and it's
Speaker 1: I mean it's to me, it's it's sad because here's
Speaker 1: a guy that had from all accounts that you hear
Speaker 1: of guys on the team and behind the scenes, this
Speaker 1: guy had all the talent and potential in the world.
Speaker 1: Could have been one of the best to ever play
Speaker 1: that position if he would have just put his head down, work, grinded,
Speaker 1: do it for three or four years. Set your family
Speaker 1: up to be in a good spot. His daughter would
Speaker 1: never have never have to worry about school, never have
Speaker 1: to worry about anything. You got a very limited amount
Speaker 1: of time in the NFL. Would make your money. He
Speaker 1: had a chance to make a whole lot of money.
Speaker 1: I'm talking thirty forty million dollars over three years. And
Speaker 1: obviously that was not more important than you know, And
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on behind the scenes and
Speaker 1: what all he's dealing with personally, and you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on with that, but just to know, hey,
Speaker 1: you can grind it out for three years and you
Speaker 1: never have to worry about anything. It's a different deal.
Speaker 1: He's a different deal. You knew what you was signing
Speaker 1: up for. You knew what you was signing up for.
Speaker 1: You knew when you drafted him as high as you drafted,
Speaker 1: and what was the drawbacks to kick backs and whatever?
Speaker 1: This kid tries, you know, But then when David Ever
Speaker 1: come out and says what he says, you know, in
Speaker 1: the way that he says like almost like I don't care. Yeah, right,
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Speaker 1: some wait boxing. Welcome to the show, Taylor, Sir. Some
Speaker 1: lighting this week? Yeah, you know, rearrange some things tarts
Speaker 1: might people talk to Shannon's people got it all sinked out,
Speaker 1: in other words, what she normally does at this time
Speaker 1: canceled or just random meetings. But Shannon, you do light
Speaker 1: boxing and cowboys fit. Could we ever see you in
Speaker 1: the ring? You know? I used to spar on weekends. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been punching the face some with boxing gloves. I
Speaker 1: trained MMA for a while and then my joints got
Speaker 1: too bad to where it like hurt. Yeah, whenever people
Speaker 1: would like twist me certain ways, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna stick with the boxing because I enjoyed it more.
Speaker 1: And then we would actually we would spar on weekends.
Speaker 1: It's actually a lot of fun and I actually wanted
Speaker 1: to fight. But when you're over I think thirty five,
Speaker 1: you have to have special permission from like the sanctioning
Speaker 1: body fit. So I would never be able to fight
Speaker 1: in a sanction fight, but I would. I would get
Speaker 1: in there and spar again. Could be a good team
Speaker 1: building activity. I don't know if they would have proven.
Speaker 1: We all watch him box that we'll get in there
Speaker 1: on each other. Shannon ready to spark three minute? Maybe
Speaker 1: we do that on hanging one day, three men in
Speaker 1: or one man leave. We talked about that before. If
Speaker 1: us three walked in and me and Kurt had to
Speaker 1: get out of that door and Nate was in between
Speaker 1: us and the door, could we do it? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Well. We don't know the day that
Speaker 1: Nate news will get onto Instagram. But another favorite of
Speaker 1: ours is on Instagram. Who mister underscore Joe? That would
Speaker 1: be mister Joe Looney officially on Instagram. Already talked to Dana,
Speaker 1: our wonderful social media coordinator to help us find a
Speaker 1: incredible photo of Joe Looney that we know exists out there.
Speaker 1: We just need to find the right one. That's like
Speaker 1: Monday Motivation brought to you by Joe Looney. So is
Speaker 1: it spelled out? M I steer underscore Joe all right?
Speaker 1: And his first post is what I wanted to focus
Speaker 1: on today because you know, I heard you guys just
Speaker 1: as I was walking in, talking about the David Irving
Speaker 1: thing and the negativity that comes with that. But Joe,
Speaker 1: as you know Nate, always brings the positivity. And here
Speaker 1: he is with his third post. Ever, I thought this
Speaker 1: had really good lighting. Just just selfie hashtag nubie hashtag
Speaker 1: help me. That's just classic Joe. Yeah, but all that
Speaker 1: he needs for help? Yeah, look at him. If you
Speaker 1: look at it, look at a little bit. Maybe the
Speaker 1: lighting isn't the best it Ben Loden teased his hair
Speaker 1: a whole lot. I mean, I can maybe see the
Speaker 1: resemblance I mean in a person though. I bet you
Speaker 1: like the Ben lad and Joe Looney size difference body
Speaker 1: wise is that? I mean, when do you catch it
Speaker 1: from the side of that life Joe special. That wasn't
Speaker 1: what I was expecting. That that actually looks like one
Speaker 1: of those vineage filters with that that light. It just
Speaker 1: looks like he's pondering. But if you guys could all
Speaker 1: just Joe a fall he's in the car. Yeah, I'm sorry. No,
Speaker 1: I mean I loved your feedback, Joe, and I don't
Speaker 1: think you thought he looked like that. I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: gone that way. Now follow I'm gonna follow him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna put out a post today. Oh oh gosh,
Speaker 1: napes peruse in my Instagram? Can't get crazy? Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe Looney verified on Instagram. I'm sure we'll see some goodies, y'all.
Speaker 1: Coach these guys. No, no, no, It's been a couple
Speaker 1: that have that have asked us to, hey, will you
Speaker 1: help me get it set up? And will you get
Speaker 1: it started? And but really they just kind of no.
Speaker 1: I mean they have people for that. Yeah, most of
Speaker 1: them have marketing or agents or yeah, a handler that
Speaker 1: does stuff like that for him. Most of them, honestly,
Speaker 1: most of them probably run their own stuff. There's a
Speaker 1: couple of guys that Dak needs help with his Twitter?
Speaker 1: Does he? He just copy? Like you can see that.
Speaker 1: He probably be like copy and paste and the quotes
Speaker 1: are still around. Somebody texts him something in copy you
Speaker 1: should put this, and he just like, sure, we've got some. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's been some babies being born around here that have
Speaker 1: shown up on Instagram, like, yes, Zach Martin's child nine
Speaker 1: pounds already good retty through the field. When was that?
Speaker 1: Charlie what was he over the weekend last Thursday, last Thursday,
Speaker 1: last Thursday. Yeah, we got Jeff Heath's baby, Antoine Woods
Speaker 1: colp Easley. We don't know if that child will be
Speaker 1: a Cowboys family member or wherever. But what do you
Speaker 1: think We talked about this earlier free agency and draft.
Speaker 1: Where is the biggest need on this team? What do
Speaker 1: you think? We all think it's did nateshail line? We
Speaker 1: all said D line, especially well because of what happened
Speaker 1: with Randy and David had added to it. Nate's been
Speaker 1: on the been on the wagon of hey, we need
Speaker 1: a big, fat man in the middle to plug up
Speaker 1: the run. So this just added to it, no matter
Speaker 1: where at on the D line. But what do you
Speaker 1: think if they went to get one guy? So they
Speaker 1: went and signed a big time free agent. You know
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas has been in the conversation, would you go
Speaker 1: that route or would you go D line? Would you
Speaker 1: go totally receiver tight end? What would you do? Like
Speaker 1: you you're thinking like a Vince Wilfork type guy right
Speaker 1: in the middle, just like a huge dude that you
Speaker 1: cannot get past. Yes, right, I mean that would be great.
Speaker 1: I don't have a specific name right now. I mean
Speaker 1: I just want to position. Prior to two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: I would have said tight end, like draft, you gotta
Speaker 1: get that tight end second round, but it seems like
Speaker 1: that got solved pretty easily by eighty two. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think your defensive line, because when everyone
Speaker 1: was talking about how the Rams beat the Cowboys, it was, oh,
Speaker 1: we could just run right over you, and that's what
Speaker 1: we saw. C. J. Anderson destroyed the Cowboys. And if
Speaker 1: you had that big blocker right there, no one's getting
Speaker 1: past you. And maybe that's just a small sample size
Speaker 1: of one game because you'd seen the D line not
Speaker 1: have that I guess deficiency before. Yeah, but you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean now that you do not have David Irving
Speaker 1: no time soon. Probably know, Randy Gregory, you still don't
Speaker 1: really know what's gonna happen with DeMarcus Lawrence and how
Speaker 1: that's gonna shake out and how that's gonna affect other
Speaker 1: deals in free agency. It just seems like defensive line
Speaker 1: is your spot, and I felt you guys, tell me
Speaker 1: what you think they figured it out? Okay with the
Speaker 1: safety position last year, I mean, of course you'd love
Speaker 1: to have that big name, and he'd sell a lot
Speaker 1: of defensive jerseys, which isn't a big thing. But do
Speaker 1: you think that they were okay with safety at the end?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they were better than they've been
Speaker 1: in previous years. It's probably the best year they've had
Speaker 1: in the last ten years. Probably. Did you see Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods tweet? I did not, but I saw where you
Speaker 1: wrote it now said. He tweeted out, Oh, don't think
Speaker 1: I don't peep the disrespect m He talked about that
Speaker 1: last year too, and remember him. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: a very common dB thing. Is like chip on my shoulder,
Speaker 1: I mean motivation. Yeah, literally what Anthony Brown has the
Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder? Yeah, he has a chip tattooed
Speaker 1: on his shoulder. Yeah, of course. Can you hear this
Speaker 1: talk about Thomas usually a place of heath and heath
Speaker 1: the guy that's kind of you know, i'd say it,
Speaker 1: I hear. Do you want Landing Collins? I don't want nobody.
Speaker 1: I won't. I want to file Hydred. I need me
Speaker 1: a fat man, greaze, go find the training table. Yeah,
Speaker 1: either he's buy himself in the rookie locker room, baking
Speaker 1: sandwich together. You've been good though you've been on your
Speaker 1: health grind. No him, just sit up in double stack
Speaker 1: bacon sandwich. Manne's coming out the side. I read this
Speaker 1: interesting article though the other day about what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: would do at running back in twoye, and I know
Speaker 1: that seems like a far fetched idea because the fact
Speaker 1: that you have Zeke, what what else would you need?
Speaker 1: And that's true, You're not going to get a big
Speaker 1: name running back in free agency because everyone knows if
Speaker 1: they come here, they're not getting the bull, right, But
Speaker 1: I mean, you do need depth in that position, and
Speaker 1: we saw that happen last year, Like you just need somebody.
Speaker 1: I wish Rod Smith would have had a better year
Speaker 1: last year because it seemed like in the end of
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen he was really on the way up and
Speaker 1: that just kind of leveled out for him and he
Speaker 1: didn't get as many chances. And then, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like you got to stack up
Speaker 1: on your own line still because it's just such a
Speaker 1: brutal positions. Yeah, you need some more depth, poor Joe Looney, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he needs some depth there. Yep, what do you think
Speaker 1: before we get out of here? Because I haven't asked
Speaker 1: you this on the air. Anyway, what did you think
Speaker 1: about because Nate's kind of done a one eighty on
Speaker 1: what he thought last week. He's start witting, Yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you think about gold jacket? Wit coming back? Man?
Speaker 1: I heard you say this, and this is so true.
Speaker 1: You said this just in passing, Like he's like a
Speaker 1: kid back at the first day of school. Oh. Like,
Speaker 1: he walks into that training table and it's like, man
Speaker 1: on campus is back. He was in. He was in
Speaker 1: the building last week and it was seriously true. He
Speaker 1: talked to people I've never seen him talk. He walked
Speaker 1: up to broad Us and was like, hey, man, how
Speaker 1: are you doing. What are you doing? Like hey, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: And it was like he just walked up to pee
Speaker 1: and was like okay. He's like it's seriously like, he's
Speaker 1: so excited to be back, and you know, he's kind
Speaker 1: of the guy I feel like, and I know no
Speaker 1: one's really talked to him about his decision process, but
Speaker 1: I think he knows in his heart like the next
Speaker 1: time he retires, it's gonna be like goodbye, like Silent
Speaker 1: in the night or something he's gonna just post about.
Speaker 1: Because they were talking about this so true. There has
Speaker 1: never been a retirement ceremony for someone, especially cowboy, like
Speaker 1: there was for Jason Winton. I mean the entire city
Speaker 1: turned upside down. They had every single staff member. We
Speaker 1: were in New Year trying to ruin our retreat last
Speaker 1: year retreat. Like the fact of the matter is he
Speaker 1: must have been so unhappy that he had to come
Speaker 1: back and play football and felt like his journey was
Speaker 1: not complete here I was. I would love to know
Speaker 1: that story in about five years, Like was it him?
Speaker 1: Was it coach? Was it ownership? Was it did you
Speaker 1: feel the personal pressure? Like this is what I'm curious going.
Speaker 1: I mean what I've heard they were happy all along,
Speaker 1: But was it like the personal pressure if you would
Speaker 1: go back at this time last year where he's feeling like, hey,
Speaker 1: everyone's pushing me out the door. I better find something
Speaker 1: and set myself up so I'm you know, successful once
Speaker 1: I leave here. Perfect opportunity with Monday night football approaching him,
Speaker 1: Like would he say now, like, hey, ignore that noise,
Speaker 1: don't listen to other people, Like let me be the
Speaker 1: deciding factor in that, because now he's here, and he
Speaker 1: must have been so unhappy or just couldn't resist the
Speaker 1: opportunity to come back. Why don't you see this year
Speaker 1: if you can get him to tell you that story.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to get in the woods
Speaker 1: with Laton Vanderash and that's hard man. Yeah, yeah, true
Speaker 1: Taylor wants to go on a wolf hunt with Vanderash
Speaker 1: and his dad. You're more than welcome to the Thing
Speaker 1: about it is, it's easy to get there. But you know,
Speaker 1: don't you gotta be willing to do what they do,
Speaker 1: whatever it is. It may be rolling around and wolf
Speaker 1: wolf poop. You know, you go on. You have to
Speaker 1: spell the wolves. You I think you're talking about when
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, maybe I think that would be
Speaker 1: the whitting one. Have you ever been hunting? No, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to put animal urine on your so
Speaker 1: there showers at the end, like it's a dark time
Speaker 1: black out. You need to take fish killer with you
Speaker 1: go blackout. Man, This is the most excited I've seen
Speaker 1: him sincere about me with you the guy. You know,
Speaker 1: you got your rifle, you got you I know I
Speaker 1: know how to shoot. That's what I'm saying. You you
Speaker 1: you stalking him, You got on your camouflage. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna make me a better football player in
Speaker 1: the end, you know, because that's my theory right now
Speaker 1: why Layton is such a good football player. He would
Speaker 1: do whatever. He's a hunter. He's a hunter, so he
Speaker 1: knows like And I literally went to Ben Bloom and
Speaker 1: I was like, do you think this is true? This theory?
Speaker 1: And he said absolutely. He said, the fact that he
Speaker 1: knows how to keep his nerves calm. He said, what
Speaker 1: do you think most players would do if they saw
Speaker 1: a wolf five feet away from Layton knows how to
Speaker 1: handle that. Yeah, he just grabs it with his bare hand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so a quarterback is nothing. I started I started rewatching
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones over the weekend to catch up you
Speaker 1: get myself ready for April fourteenth, and I forgot how
Speaker 1: badass those wolves are in that show. Those dire wolves.
Speaker 1: Is that a woman drag? Yeah? When the dragons just
Speaker 1: blow up everything with the fire, yeah, they always come
Speaker 1: save that lady, you know, And he got three of them.
Speaker 1: Funny enough, when you were asking me about the you
Speaker 1: know what I would do and be all in that mode,
Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about Witten. So my answer
Speaker 1: to that is exactly that if Witten wants to be
Speaker 1: in the Woods, but the Cowboys players. Again, he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to do what they do, and that means that
Speaker 1: you are now thirty six, You're back to being the
Speaker 1: oldest member on the team by far. You gotta do
Speaker 1: what they do. If that means rolling around being crazy,
Speaker 1: you gotta do that because now they're coming in and
Speaker 1: he didn't know last year's rookie costs. I know he'd
Speaker 1: met and talked to him, but he's got to be
Speaker 1: there with them, like ingraining everything that they're doing. I
Speaker 1: think it was easier two years ago when Daz was
Speaker 1: kind of that bridge. I'm curious to see how that
Speaker 1: is this year. I just hope he has fun. I
Speaker 1: hope what he was doing in the training table by
Speaker 1: the day, yeah. I just hope he enjoys being here
Speaker 1: and enjoys being, like you said, being with the young guys,
Speaker 1: and hey, you're gonna come come on to him when
Speaker 1: he starts playing and they're like, look, you know we're
Speaker 1: not winning games. We could have had a drafted tight end,
Speaker 1: you know, were you just being selfish and wanted to,
Speaker 1: you know, play that No, I wouldn't think that way. Please, No, No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking this way. I think no, did he
Speaker 1: coming to become a busting folks up? Almost? Because did
Speaker 1: you have a talk with him in the training table
Speaker 1: last week? Noa, noa. Why would you bring back this
Speaker 1: guy if you ain't have if you if you don't
Speaker 1: have no plans for him, do not bring him back.
Speaker 1: You wasting time. You're going backwards? Then this just due? Ready?
Speaker 1: He ready, he got to be ready. He's ready. The
Speaker 1: cowboys are ready. We need ten plus wins. We want
Speaker 1: to be sitting here six months for nine. He's ready. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know who's ready? William's ready for us to get
Speaker 1: the hell off the air over. You know what? All right,
Speaker 1: that was a good ending to the show. We yeah,
Speaker 1: we always in the show strong. We need to start
Speaker 1: the show with deer poop talk. I think that, Hey
Speaker 1: what ready at the start? We should go hang out
Speaker 1: with William? Yeah, back, we should do that, all right? Well, Kurt,
Speaker 1: thanks for showing up, sir, all right, Hey bringing it, Taylor,
Speaker 1: thank you for gracing us with your presence. William, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for being special producer and stepping up
Speaker 1: when no one else wanted to do this show. You
Speaker 1: were there for us. Since y'all don't have Hot one
Speaker 1: number one y'all the lost Boys, no sense, Pressley, thanks
Speaker 1: for scheduling as Launce, you're gonna find that this is
Speaker 1: gonna be the lasts here. Man. We will be back,
Speaker 1: so I won't be. But you guys hold down join
Speaker 1: you hold down the fort for me next week, all right,
Speaker 1: they'll be Can I join him? Absolutely? You can host
Speaker 1: the show if you want to, all right, all right.
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