1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jack Worst Football. He's got 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: your crush and he got it. Fruck Dipty done yards 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: away from the End. Jeff Warris Digital Jack Jack Warris 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: Digital Jack Warris, Drive Time right and Sex steps to 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: John Oh shows it actually Jack Warres dr Time starts 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I don't really think I mean to me, 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: None of the stuff I wear is that crazy. It's 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: just kind of stuff. I like like this. You got 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: my Tarzan band and I go in a day, um, 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, always have the jots on deck. Um, you know, 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: going to London. I was hoping we'd get to wear 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: Halloween costume since we're trying to traveling on Halloween, have 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: awesome white Goodman from Dodgeball costume. But I'm afraid, uh, 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be able to make the trip, unfortunately, 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: Gardner mints you on Good Morning Football this more name 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: when you heard it here first, no Halloween costumes on 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: the plane Thursday. I'm glad someone said something because that 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: would have been embarrassing. Doubt that he had one, though, 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: for sure, and I'm totally for sure that he was 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: completely planning on wearing it. I'm sure he's got four 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: or five. And I'm sure there's some students in Washington State. 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: You can tell some tales, can tell some tales. Fraternity parties. Yeah, 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: Bryan lives vicariously through the stash and his Dodgeball costumes. 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: I've never seen the movie Dodgeball, but when you showed 25 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: it to me today, when yeah, I'm sure, yeah, right 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: up there with bridge over the River Quay Oscar. When 27 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: I when I saw it, I thought, yeah, he's got that. Yeah, 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: I was planning on the whole average Joe get up 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: on the plane wouldn't have been goods the whole movie. Right, 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: it's I love stupid humor. There's nothing better than that, 31 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: nothing better than that. It's good. I can tell John 32 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: you probably like Dodgeball. He strikes me the doggall type 33 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: of guy. All you're ready for big things? I was 34 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: born ready. Yeah, alright. Big thing one is Gardner Minshew 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: Minshew Magic. We all know it is here in Jacksonville. 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be there in London? Uh? Yeah, And 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna even be bigger in London. You can 38 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: only imagine what the Minshew magic will be like there. 39 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: It's his first international test. Thos. We'll see how he 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: plays with all that pressure, but he's handled pressure very 41 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: well so far, so I really don't expect anything different. 42 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: Big thing too is DeShawn Watson. The Texans first trip 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: to London. How does that affect the quarterback? But he 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: plays under the biggest lights and performs at his best. 45 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a good match between the Shawn 46 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: Watch and the Shawn Watson and Gardner Minshew. Big thing 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: three is a J boy We were always looking forward 48 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: to Jalen Ramsey verse DeAndre Hopkins. This is boys first 49 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: true test against DeAndre Hopkins, one of the best receivers 50 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: in the league. It's his chance to prove he's worth 51 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: that big contract, and you can definitely say he is 52 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: the number one corner now. So all in all, big 53 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: game on Sunday, a lot of tests. Definitely looking at 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks for the first thing, though, it seems like 55 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: a long time ago that a J boyer arrived here 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: from Houston and you had he and Jalen and they 57 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 1: were both talking about being number one, and the conversation 58 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: the week of Houston if you recall stem to who's 59 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: going to cover DeAndre Hopkins and it had always been 60 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: Jailen Um now, I don't expect that anybody's going to 61 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: go one on one him the whole way, and it's 62 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: two tasking. They didn't want to do it with Jalen, 63 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: which angered him as we all know now. But I 64 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: am interested to see boy A line up across from him. 65 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: He did it in practice for a number of years. 66 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: He's not the same he doesn't have the same length, 67 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't have that that physical presence that Jalen does. 68 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: But he's a competitive guy and I'm anxious to see 69 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: how he does when he's lined up against Here's how 70 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: hard it is to cover hopp into one on wine 71 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: as you as you knew Brian, Jalen wanted to and 72 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: during the games there were times where they had to 73 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: help and he needed help, and he knew he needed 74 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: to help. So that's how good DeAndre Hopkins. I don't 75 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: expect them to travel boy because he's really not that 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: sort of player who's going to do that. But so 77 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna need safety help. More importantly to me, you 78 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: don't stop Hopkins with boy A. You stop Hopkins by 79 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: stopping the Ryan stop and getting too Deshaun Watson and 80 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: not pressuring him so that he can't get to Hopkins, well, 81 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: they'll be able to offer some safety help because Will 82 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: Fuller is not healthy. Kikuti is not going to be 83 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: the guy that's going to get that done. And look, 84 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: controlling DeAndre Hopkins is seven catches and seventy yards, you know, 85 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: and he's going to convert because he's the guy on 86 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: third down. He is that guy that you know where 87 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: he's going to be. Um if he gets eleven catches 88 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: for hundred and sixty yards and two touchdowns, which he 89 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: is eminently capable of doing, your chances of beating them 90 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: are completely off the charts. Here's where you have to 91 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: stop Hopkins. To me, there will be he'll catch eight 92 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: for ninety. There will be three plays that in some 93 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: games he turns third and six into first down. You 94 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: need to stop a couple of those players and get 95 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: them off the field. He's gonna get his, but you've 96 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: got to get him off the fielding key situations. So 97 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: I would I would expect maybe maybe a couple of 98 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: exotic books on that, But again, I just think the 99 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: way to stop a great receiver is to never let 100 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback at the ball. I was hand. I go 101 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: back to Jalen's rookie year, and it was the first 102 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: matchup between the two was here in the stadium in 103 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: and Jalen did a phenomenal job the whole game. And 104 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: then late in the ball game, it was third and 105 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: six and Hopkins made the catch. The ball went right 106 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: to where Jalen could get it or Hopkins could get it. 107 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: Hopkins reached out and took it away from him and 108 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: then they went down the field scored, game was over. 109 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: He didn't have a big day, but he caught that 110 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: one critical ball. That's what you have to stop. And 111 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, there'll be a few of them. You've 112 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: got to find a way to break those up. Mark Vandomir, 113 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: voice of the Houston Texans, joined us later on the show, 114 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: so he'll have much more to say about the Texans. 115 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: But let's go back to Gardner Minshew because on Good 116 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: Morning Football this morning, it was the first time he 117 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: really got point out flanked out. Asked about being the 118 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: starting quarterback and if he wanted to be. He said, 119 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: of course, any competitor wants to be the guy. But 120 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: I understand regardless of the decision. So I was curious 121 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: to see how he would answer that question, because really, 122 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: no one point out has asked him that yet, Well, 123 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: the sentiment that I'm hearing, not in the building outside 124 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: the building now is well, let's wait till after the 125 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Texans game. If he goes there and beats the Texans 126 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: in London, then you stick with him until such point 127 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: that he shows he's a rookie late in the year, 128 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: and then you go back to fools. I don't know 129 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: what the sentiment in the building is. It's as tight 130 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: liped as can be. However, Um, if he beats them 131 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: over there, oh yeah, it will it will be. It 132 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: will be a really difficult decision to pull him out 133 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: of the line of because look, the Jaguars have lost 134 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: what fourteen of their last eighteen games against the Houston Texans. 135 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: They've lost the last three in a row, though they 136 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: had a chance to to win obviously in Week two. UM, 137 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: beating to Shawn Watson right now, and obviously he doesn't 138 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: have to worry about lining up against the Shawn Watson, 139 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: but playing welling up and putting it up points on 140 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: the board and being consistent against the Texans team. It's 141 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: going to get that from Deshaun Watson. That's a that 142 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: is a toll order for a young player. The reason 143 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: it's tight lipped uh around the building is because, as 144 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: weird as this will sound to people who look at 145 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: it from the outside, this is the decision of one guy. 146 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: This is a Doug mor Own decision. Now. I'm sure 147 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: there will be conversations. I'm sure there will be discussions, 148 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be a vote. Uh. And Doug 149 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: I really believe when he says he hasn't thought about it. 150 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: There's some coaches who give that coach speak. Um, I 151 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: don't think Doug has thought that far ahead, because I mean, 152 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure he has an idea in his mind, but 153 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten down to yeah, you're nay. If it 154 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: comes down to the Texans game, it's gonna be minshew. 155 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: Not necessarily because of the win, because I don't know 156 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: if they're gonna win or not. But he's gonna throw 157 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: three yards because as we've talked about this week, Brian, 158 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: and this is a struggling secondary, very high probability. This 159 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: gets into gardener the zone for a lot of yards 160 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: where they getting the red zone or not we'll see 161 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: or in the end zone there in the red zone. So, um, 162 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: I don't expect to hear a whole lot about this 163 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: decision until Marone makes it, probably in thirteen days. Well, 164 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: consider also now the absence of j. J. Watt, and 165 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: the average fan will look, well, we only had four 166 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: and a half sacks, but if you watch them at all, 167 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: you see how many times he hits the quarterback. There's 168 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: something called first pressure. It's the next generation stat, and 169 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: he has sixty two first pressures on the quarterback, which 170 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: is far and away more than any other player in 171 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: the league has to this point. He hits the quarterback 172 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: more than anyone else does. So the absence of what 173 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: the absence of Jonathan Joseph, though he may play this week. 174 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: Bradley Roby to Shaun Gibson, you know they had to 175 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: go and send draft choices for Garon Conley. They were 176 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: signing players left and right. They have troubles on defense. 177 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: This to me comes down to the Jaguars defense against 178 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. And you all saw that touched on throw 179 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: that he made were he stumbled, got kicked in the face, 180 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: just threw the ball in the direction of Daniel fells Well, 181 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: and apparently Fellas has just become a He's been a 182 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: good signed. Yeah, yeah, He's a guy that he seems 183 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: to find that spot and Watson trust him and knows 184 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: where he's at. That's kind of what I was hoping 185 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: the Jaguars would find for their young quarterback. Obviously nothing 186 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: materialized yesterday in the trade market, but find a player 187 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: like James O'Shaughnessy was for them in the middle of 188 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: the field. They don't have that right now. If you 189 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: want to see Minshoo take another step, have that kind 190 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: of guy waiting for him almost any situation. Yeah, he 191 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: saw that briefly with that one catch from Josh Oliver 192 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: trying to get into the end zone. Wicked hit and oh, 193 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: Shaunessy was the guy who's been around the league for 194 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: a couple of years. Not a great player, but he 195 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: found a niche. Fellas has found a niche. Jack need 196 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: to find that player and you're gonna see I don't 197 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: know if he Josh Allen is going to be the 198 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: player that you want him to be this year, fulfilling that. 199 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see more out of him. They 200 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: still really like Josh Oliver. I think he saw a 201 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: couple of things the other day where he got open 202 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. Didn't make the catch. 203 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: I expect the last nine games him to make more 204 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: of an impact than people think base of his first 205 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: two games. I think he's gonna be Okay, we haven't 206 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: really seen much of him at all. We can't really 207 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: form an opinion that we haven't seen it. It's it's 208 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: conventional wisdom that says, you know, how how close can 209 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: he get to being the guy? That's where he needs 210 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: to be dependable as a rookie who missed half the season. 211 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: Conventional wisdom says he can't get that close. But we'll see. 212 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: I mean long term, I think you hold out a 213 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: lot of hope for the kind of player when you 214 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: look at him physically, I mean the length of his arms, 215 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: in his running style. I mean he's fluid athlete. I'm 216 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: just talking about right now. You'd like to see him 217 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: get more involved, that's for sure. 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We're back Jags Drive 246 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: Time Wednesday morning, brought to you by Duval Motor Company. 247 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: As we get into Ashland, ask filling the blanks to 248 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: see how well these two have been paying attention in 249 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: the locker room and press conferences. Hopefully they that they're studying. 250 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: Are you ready? I that's your line. I should stop 251 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: even asking me if you're all right? Ashlen Ask number one. 252 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: This is from Chris Connelly. A few blanks. I've stepped 253 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: up my game today. Everyone gives me a hard time 254 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: because they consider me a blank blank. I have to 255 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: remind them the blank guy out there had the blank 256 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: speed on the field today. Three of those blanks. Two 257 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: of those blanks are the same word. John, you're quick. 258 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: You must have been there one of you two. You 259 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: don't look confident, John, Will you threw me off? I 260 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: think it's old man, oldest and fastest. Let me see yours, Brian. 261 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: John technically gets it because it is old man, not 262 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: old guy, but I'll give it back both to you. 263 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: John technically gets you, but you technically get it. Yeah, 264 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: because yes, everyone considers me an old man. I have 265 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: to remind them the oldest guy had the fastest speed 266 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: on the field day. Regarding Chris Connelly's touchdown, Yeah, they 267 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: do call him an old man, even though league years 268 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: He's really not. What's going on there? I dropped my pants, 269 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: drop my marker key to Ashlen ask if you give 270 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: me props in the morning, you're gonna have to expect 271 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: some errors. Please get it together, alright, fill in the 272 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: blank number two. Doug Marrone said this, he does not 273 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: play like he was brought into this league a blank 274 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: draft pick or something like that post game Sunday after 275 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: the Jets win. All right, Brian, you first, he does 276 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: not play like a low draft pick, and correct. I 277 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: think this is from Doug Maron and I believe it's 278 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: six round draft pick. Her regarding Garner Minshew does not 279 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: play like a six round I'm not in the locker 280 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: room post game anymore. So you have to read the transcripts. 281 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: You have to prepare. You got this one, come on, 282 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: we'll bring it back. I had the general idea on 283 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: Chris Connolly. You know, here we go last films, highlight 284 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: of day. It is. It's really not. That's what's amazing. 285 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: This is good in saving the highlight alright. A J. 286 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: Boyer said this in the locker room. We're just letting 287 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: them come to us and we're playing blank blank. When 288 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: Blank got that first pick, I felt like Blank got 289 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: that pick. Oh, come on, you have to try. I 290 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: can get the second and third, but I can't get 291 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: the first. All right, we'll take a guess. We're just 292 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: letting them come to us and we're playing blank blank. 293 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: Obviously he's talking about turnovers here. Yeah, I thought I 294 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: can get through. I'm trying to help you out, man. 295 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: Don't help your boy John out here. We're just lett 296 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: him come to us and we're playing blank blank today, John, 297 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: I got this. The first is clearly paint ball, um, 298 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: and the second is Trey, and the third is I 299 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: so Tray and I very definitely that would be three. 300 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: And obviously it's paintball. Um. No, that's incorrect. They're playing 301 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: great ball. Great ball. I thought he said, paintball. Yeah, okay, 302 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: you know what, You're still the winner this week. John, 303 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: it's not And it's not even the best part of 304 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: my dad. Good for you. I have more awesome things coming. 305 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, when a J Boy said that, 306 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: I think it was very telling because you did see 307 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: everyone celebrate, the entire defense celebrate with tray. It's it's uh. 308 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: It goes back to something Chris Conny said after the game. 309 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: Doug Morons talked about it. These guys really are playing 310 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: for each other. And as much as that's a cliche, 311 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: as much as the camaraderie thing gets some I roll. 312 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: You've seen it the last couple of weeks to a 313 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: remarkable level that on both sides of ball, but I've 314 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: noticed it on defense. A lot of these guys really 315 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: playing for the guy next day. Well, and let's be honest, 316 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: it goes back to last year. Jalen Ramsey and a 317 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: J Boy grew apart last year. There were disagreements, there 318 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: were moments on the field, and the two of them, 319 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: not necessarily publicly, but they just sort of separated from 320 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: as tight as they were in And so when you 321 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: see and I did see a J Boy's reaction, it 322 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: wasn't just he I felt great for him, although it 323 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: was it was this is much better than it was 324 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: with Jalen. Here he feels like there is more of 325 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: a work together sort of unity in that secondary than 326 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: there was last year. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't a 327 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: coincidence when he said it's a totally different field than 328 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: two weeks ago. We all know what happened is all 329 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: about a j Boyer was the good soldier. Last year, 330 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: he just took it. He just took all the abuse, 331 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: he took all of the lack of respect, and he 332 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: just played. And this year he's enjoying it more and 333 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: you can tell he's playing. He's also healthy, yes, and 334 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: he was healthy dealing with a lot of injuries last year. 335 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: My question is with Trey Herndon. I mean, you've heard 336 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: all the every single week all they're picking on him. 337 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: They're picking on him, but we've seen him take steps. 338 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: But how much of his performance last week was him 339 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: taking steps in the right direction or just the Jets 340 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: not being a very good offense. Well, I think this 341 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: is him taking steps in the right direction. You know, 342 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, if you talk to any of the coaches, 343 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: they will tell you that they really liked turned in 344 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: and in fact, before the whole Jalen Ramsey thing exploded. 345 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: You looked at a J. Boyer and his fifteen and 346 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: a half million dollars in salary this year and next 347 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: and realizing that they may have to do something with him. 348 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: Herndon was the guy that they were penciling in to 349 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: play across from Jalen Ramsey here long term. Well, they 350 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't have done that if they didn't think he could 351 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: grow into this. I think perhaps he's growing quicker than 352 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: they had anticipated that. He was making strides against Carolina 353 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: and got better against the Bengals, and then this last 354 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: week had the two interceptions. I don't think it matters 355 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: who they played. I think he's playing better. He's playing better. 356 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: I mean it helps to play and him. You get 357 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: interceptions in this league, are you guys are usually going 358 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: to come and get to struggling quarterback because the good 359 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: ones just done through two picks. Uh. But for Herndon, 360 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: he is going to get picked on a lot. He's 361 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: going to get targeted a lot in the NFL, and 362 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: these days, when that happens, you're going to give up 363 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: plays because the quarterbacks are too good. The flip side 364 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: of that is if you can get interceptions to compliment that, 365 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: If you can break serve an interception, uh, analytically more 366 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: than makes up for a touchdown allowed, the momentum, a turnover, etcetera. 367 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: So if he can get some interceptions, if he can 368 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: take advantage of the air and passes, Ben Hill have 369 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: had a good year. Boy will tell you that Trey 370 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: Herndon has a chance to be him. In other words, 371 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: has a chance to go into a player that earns 372 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: a big contract and has a prominent place in the defense. Yeah. 373 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: The funny thing about Trey, We're starting to learn more 374 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: about him, obviously with these past few weeks. He is 375 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: by far the quiet a sky in the locker room, 376 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: so much so that when he got the interceptions, I'm 377 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: so used to being with being on the sidelines, you 378 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: hear yelling loud, everything's crazy. He walks, Bay goes stop 379 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: playing with me, man like that quietly, and I happen 380 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: to be staying there, so I heard it. But I'm 381 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: so used to these elaborate celebrations, and that's what we 382 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: get playing back. Yeah, and he has much more room 383 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: to grow. He doesn't have a Jalen Ramsey ceiling, but 384 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: he can play as good as the guy across from him. 385 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: Eventually I might tell you what it's impressive. He has 386 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: not lost confidence even when he get picked on early 387 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: at that position. If if you can accept or not accept, 388 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: but if you can play through giving things up and 389 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: go ahead and make plays. Uh, you know it's the 390 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: old short memory thing. He appears to have it and 391 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: he had it through some tough times early. 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So if you want great barbecue, 420 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: head to Bonos today, the official barbecue of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 421 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: The So We're Back Jags Drive time Wednesday morning, as 422 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: the Jaguars get ready to head to London tomorrow, Crazy tomorrow. 423 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: I haven't packed a think We're not sarsed. I'm stressed. 424 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna be cold there. You'll get it down. We 425 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: have faith. You're probably gonna pack everything anyway. The suitcase 426 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: will be large and in charge this week. You don't 427 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: want to sit next to me. All right, John, here 428 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: we go. I'm not gonna ask if you're ready, because 429 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: I know you are. Tyler from Jacksonville. It seems like 430 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people excited about the young 431 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: talent on the team, but also wanting to clean house 432 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: on the front office. These things are often offered up 433 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: together without any sense of irony. What gifts. Oh well, 434 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: as you know, Brian, irony can be pretty ironic. And 435 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: uh it is. You started to sort of feel this 436 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: early in the season that people were liking the young talent. 437 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: This might be the best draft class and franchise history. 438 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: I mean we said that about the sixteen draft class. 439 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: Uh sixty is pretty good. He's pretty good. But it 440 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: seen didn't have a quarterback and that's what pushes it 441 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: over the top. The national team's missing the first pick 442 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: and that right, But this year and I as a 443 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: quarterback has a pass rusher, which is number two behind 444 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: quarterback numbers of importance. And it's got an offensive tackle, 445 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: which I know he's kind of left tackle, but it's 446 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: number three Juwan Taylor. You know from talking to people 447 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: as much as people talking about Josh Allen Minshew, Uh 448 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: might be the best of the bunch by the time 449 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: he's done at his position. And that's saying a lot 450 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: because he's other two guys, Josh Allen, that's the conversation anyway. UM, 451 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: how do you jibe that with? Oh, fire everybody? UM? 452 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 1: I think this, if you look at the last two 453 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: or three drafts and take them in hole, uh a 454 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: pretty good job, and we might be seeing the core 455 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: of twenty you know, you know, late playing and when 456 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: you package those draft picks they've got, we may be 457 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: looking at at the shift and the first signs of 458 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: a pretty good young team. I was listening to a 459 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: show on the satellite UH last night driving home, and 460 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: Pat Kerwin, the former jets Um general manager who now 461 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: does the Sarah the Satellite thing, he made a point 462 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: that anytime you hire a coach in this day and age, 463 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: you better plan on five years. Well we don't do that. 464 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean when when Gus Bradley got that much time? 465 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: People want what are you doing here? And you know 466 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: I had four and you get four right when he 467 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: when he got as long as he did. The point 468 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: that he was making though, is that coaches invariably come 469 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: in they change the way they do things, which means 470 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: they have to change personnel to some degree. And he 471 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: was talking about Zach Taylor and the start that they 472 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: have oh and eight now for the Bengals and said 473 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: what a disaster it would be if they fired him 474 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: after this year, because you're just starting over on another 475 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: five year cycle. The reason I bring up the comment was, 476 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: this is Doug's third year here. They've been developing players. Well, 477 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: if you pull the plug just because you go eight 478 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: and eight, right or seven and nine, all these young 479 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: players don't get the benefit of the ability of a 480 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: system to develop in. It's why you must practice patients. 481 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: Did you see the video that um, I'm sure you 482 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: did because it was on social media? Uh, Levian Bell 483 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: this morning? Patients? Patients, patients or really do you ever 484 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: hear a player talk about patients? But he was trying 485 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: to explain to Jets fans why they should have patients 486 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: in the first year of these players, together with the 487 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: first year the coach and the general manager patients. We've 488 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: lost all patients in sports today, not just the NFL 489 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: and certainly not just in Jacksonville. But if you see 490 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: the signs of these guys coming along, and the quarterback 491 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: isn't just the quarterback, he's the product of the offensive 492 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: coordinator and the head coach and the quarterbacks coach, patients 493 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: see the signs of what's coming. When you consider they 494 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: lost their starting quarterback, what twelve plays in and their 495 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: best player walks on him, and they're still in the 496 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: hunt of patients, everybody needs to just take a deep 497 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: breath and see the micro and not just the macro 498 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: and alais it's it's a pretty young team in the 499 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: field right now. They can go back to guys they 500 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: really like. For whatever happened, you got in the draft class, 501 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: for whatever happened, they got Quincy Williams bench. My understanding 502 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: is they couldn't be more excited about what he's going 503 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: to be. And I feel like he learned from being benched, 504 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: and then when he comes back and benched given a break, 505 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: he's probably the more appropriate term what it was. He 506 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: only had six games at linebacker. He was in a 507 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: linebacker Murray State. He was a safety, right, So here 508 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: he goes and he misses most of August, all of August, 509 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: so he's got what six games at linebacker, and then 510 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: he's going against Christie McAffrey. They firmly believe that a 511 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: Minshew Taylor, Alan Williams and uh tight end Josh all 512 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: five and Rocks doing what he's doing. But those five especially, 513 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: they think they've got big time players in this position. Well, 514 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: if you get a draft with five big time players, 515 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: I mean rare. Are you going to find the seventy 516 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: four Steelers draft when your draft four Hall of famers? Right? 517 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: But if you can find five guys that are long 518 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: term solutions in your lineup from a salary cap perspective, 519 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: let alone from a wins and losses perspective, good on you. 520 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: Here's the bigger reality of that. If your draft has 521 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: if you look back in five years and your draft 522 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: has one great player who has signed his next contract, 523 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: it's a good draft. If it's got a quarterback in it, 524 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: it's franchise change. If it's got quarterback and four other 525 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: really good players, it's just a thought. To go back 526 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: on Juwan Taylor. You know, it seemed like every game 527 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: early on there was a holding call or even two 528 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: as he was sort of adjusting. I don't believe he 529 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: had holding call it all last week against the Jets. 530 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: I think he had something, but it was Cam Robinson 531 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: on the other side. Um, I'd have to go back 532 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: and look to see if there was any penalty at 533 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: all on him. Um. He's already strong and smart and 534 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: tough and adjusting to the speed of the game, especially 535 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: when you're the right tackle and they're moving. Guy is 536 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: all over the place on you. It takes some time. 537 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: I saw him play maybe his best game last week, 538 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: and no penalties on top of it makes it really 539 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: really good. He's big time. They think he's gonna be 540 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: all absolutely all right, let's go to the next OH Zone. 541 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: Shane from Atlanta, Georgia. We've already addressed a little bit. 542 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: Can't we expect to see a j Boy shadow DeAndre 543 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: Hopkins all game? I don't think so, and only because 544 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that's really the game or the way 545 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: to maximize Boy the entire games of Jalen. I also 546 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: don't think realistically it was always the best for Jalen, 547 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: although Jalen believed that, Uh, it's always best, especially in 548 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: this scheme, to be able to play a mix of defense. 549 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: I think you'll see boy a on Ramsey more. I 550 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: don't think it will be as you know, a chest 551 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: poke out, look at me type thing, but I do 552 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: believe that you'll see him more on that, but can 553 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: get a lot of help well. And I do think 554 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: first of all, boy would like that only from the 555 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: sense that he's a proud player and the chance to 556 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: play against DeAndre Hopkins, who we went against and practice 557 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: all those years. He would rise to that occasion. It's 558 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: not that they're confident in Tray Herndon against DeAndre Hopkins, 559 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: because that would be ridiculous to say, but they're not 560 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: scared to put him out there in certain situations because 561 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: he does have that length. You know, he's not as 562 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: tall as Jalen or as wide in the shoulders, but 563 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: he's got long arms, he's got the physical attributes to 564 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: be able to bat a ball down and to play 565 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: him even though he doesn't have the experience to do it. 566 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: So I just don't think they want to limit themselves 567 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: and saying Okay, well, how are we gonna do everything else? 568 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: Because we have to have a j on DeAndre the 569 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: entire game. That's not the way that Todd wash likes 570 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: to play it for all the reasons that you enumerated, 571 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: especially says he can't play good defense without having a 572 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: guy shadow. Absolutely so. Well, and again, as we mentioned before, 573 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: you know Will Fuller's not playing right now, and so 574 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to do some things with the 575 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: safeties over the top. Right, Let's go to our last ozone, 576 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: back to Georgia. Joey from Athens, Oh, is this defense 577 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: starting to show it can be a linked again? Over 578 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: the last two games, they've recorded six interceptions and ten sacks. Well, 579 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: I think it's early Brian to call it elite, because 580 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: it is shown over eight games that when it's playing 581 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: a really good offense, it can be vulnerable. It was 582 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: vulnerable against Carolina with a great player in McCaffrey. It 583 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: was vulnerable against Kansas City with a great player in 584 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: the Homes. That said, it's now at the point where 585 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: through eight games you have I believe it's five games 586 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: where you've held the opponent under seventeen um. You're now 587 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: getting You're seeing that the issue with the with the 588 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: sacks early was more situational, which I said all last 589 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: year when this team doesn't have leads, when any team 590 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: doesn't have leads, it's hard to get saxy if you're 591 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: a great pass rush, because teams, when they're not forced 592 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: to pass, they get the ball out quicker, they run, 593 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: they throw patterns that dictate that you not get sacks 594 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: or interceptions. So that was a lot of it. They're 595 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: not elite, but they are showing in the last two 596 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 1: games that when they're in the right situation, they can 597 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: be very effective and they can be the strength of team. 598 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: I think this week is the is the ultimate game 599 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: for showing where this team has a chance to beat 600 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: really good team. Meaning it is such a good pass 601 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: rush that if they can get a lead and get 602 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: to Deshaun Watson, it can turn into one of those 603 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: hailstorm games whereverything's happening, but they've got to get a 604 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: lead to do it. Elite to me is used like 605 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: the words celebrity, right. I mean, it's just thrown out 606 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: there all the time, and everyone defines it is something different. 607 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: I right, this is my wheelhouse. So what I see 608 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: as a team that doesn't necessarily have a defense in seventeen, 609 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: when they went out there late in the year and 610 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: they needed to stop. In most situations, they could get 611 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 1: it right there. They could go out, they could summon 612 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: whatever scheme they needed, and with the elite players, with 613 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: the Darius Is on the field who's not on the 614 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: field right now and might not be again this season, 615 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: with Jalen Ramsey on the back end who's not here 616 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: any longer, they could go out and count on making 617 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 1: a plan getting them off the field in three, four 618 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: or five six plays. Um, what this looks to me 619 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: is people hate the term bend but don't break, but 620 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: it band band, band, give a little, give a little, 621 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: wait for an opportunity to make a play, and obviously 622 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: they did the other day with the three interceptions. I 623 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: don't think this is the Okay, don't worry about this. 624 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: The defense has got this like the seventeen team was, 625 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: and we called them elite. I think they're very good 626 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: and they're getting better, and turnovers, as you know, come 627 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: and go. But the pressure elite is that guy Josh 628 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: Allen who is in the league lead for rookie sacks 629 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: right now and is near the top in nearly every 630 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: past rushing category. And we're just seeing the beginning of it. 631 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: When you're that good, that guy who has a career 632 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: high four sacks gets the opportunity to feast. What they 633 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: are is deep, They're talented, They're well coached, whether anyone 634 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: wants to believe that or not because Todd Washing is 635 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: the scapegoat for so much. They are technically sound, and 636 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: if Trey Hendon plays well, they have a chance to win. 637 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: And if Trey Herndon doesn't play well, not that you 638 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: put it all in one guy, but you get what 639 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying. There's a there's a spot here or there 640 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: you can make a Quincy Williams. If a guy here 641 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: or there makes a mistake, they're in trouble. A. The 642 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: good news is they're not the best team in the 643 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: league CLA, I mean top five defense any longer. And 644 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: then have different ways they can win. I don't know 645 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: that Jane Hays have that many different ways they can 646 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: win right now. But they do have a formula where 647 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: they can beat anybody, and that's they can get a 648 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: lead if they can get some confidence on offense and 649 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: they can get this pass rush going. I don't think 650 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: there's any team in the league that they can't beat. 651 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: If if they can somehow get them down by a 652 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: touchdown and start pass rushing on him. Not every team 653 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: can say that. If you have to rely on your 654 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: offense to give you the lead to be at your best, 655 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: then by my definition, you're not elite. But man, can 656 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: they get after the quarterback right? And and not just 657 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: the eight sacks last week, but with have thirteen hits. 658 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Donald was a ping pong ball the entire day. 659 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: If you can do that to Deshaun Watson, and that 660 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: hasn't happened a lot to Watson, but if you can 661 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: spin him around a little bit and make him have 662 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: to find I mean, really work to get his body, 663 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: but it's doable. With that offensive line, you can pressure 664 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: him into not being great. I don't think you're going 665 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: to completely negate him. But even in the game in 666 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: Week two, there were some moments where Theys got the 667 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: pass rush going where all of a sudden you felt 668 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: that gay turn. Maybe not for sixty minutes, but for enough. 669 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: My belief is is that the reason that he wasn't 670 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: the same Deshaun Watson was because DeAndre Hopkins was not 671 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: the same DeAndre Hopkins. Jalen took him out of the game, 672 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: and that is what gave the Jaguars a chance to 673 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: mount that fourth quarter drive. It fell short with the 674 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: two point conversion, but Jalen, I thought did that because 675 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: Hopkins was nowhere to be found, and you saw him. 676 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: He took his comfort away kind of like so now, 677 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: right right now, without Jalen, they're gonna have to get 678 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: it done with the guys up front, and good for 679 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: them against an offensive line that's playing better but not 680 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: nearly the Cowboys offensive line or the better offensive lines 681 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: in the league. They've got the horses to get it done. Yes, 682 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: they do, all right. When we come back. Mark vand 683 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: Amir voice of the Houston Texans, joins us right here 684 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: on Jaggs Drife time you hear think. Duvall Motor Company up, 685 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Duval is the home 686 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: of the real dear, no hude, no gimmicks, no haggle, 687 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: just a real, fast, real friendly experien It's online and 688 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: at the dealership with five area locations. Forward Honda Accurate, 689 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: subru and now Chevrolet. You can be sure do All 690 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: delivers on price, do Vall delivers on service. 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Welcome back Jack's Drive Time 710 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: Wednesday Morning, brought to you by Duval Motor Company as 711 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: the Jaguars get ready to take on a f C 712 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: South rivals, the Houston Texans in London on Sunday. As 713 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: we welcome in the voice of the Houston Texans and 714 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: from our fandom here Mark, thanks so much for joining 715 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: us this morning. Hello Jaguar friends. Everybody ready? Hey Mark, 716 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: how are you? I'm doing great and ready to go 717 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: to London. I'm just a little bit of I don't know, 718 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: jet lag whimp. We'll see how I do over there. 719 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: But they do have coffee available out here, so that 720 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: will help. They do stay awake on Friday. That's the 721 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: best we can tell you. Stay away. Yeah, well we've 722 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: done it several times. Um. Just so you know, Mark 723 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: has been with the Texans since they got started in 724 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: two thousand two. He's seen the evolution of this franchise, 725 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: much like John and I have with this Jaguars franchise. 726 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: And you know the thing that stands out to me 727 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: about this Texans team, Mark, is on offense, they might 728 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 1: be as balanced as you've ever seen. I mean, they've 729 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: got they've got Carlos Hyde running so well in combination 730 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: with Watson playing at a very very high level. I 731 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: don't recall a team that felt is balanced out of 732 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: Houston as this one is. Yeah, I think you know 733 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 1: it harks back when you look at some of the numbers. 734 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: The OH nine two thousand, two thousand eleven teams had 735 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: a good passing game and a good running game, but 736 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: it was a completely different system. So I get your point, 737 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: because this is what Bill O'Brien calls game plan offense. 738 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: He says they change it every week, and I know 739 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: they certainly do change nuances of it to match up 740 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: with certain opponents what they perceived to be weakness is 741 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: or take what the defense gives you, or whatever. But 742 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm really mildly and wonderfully pleasantly surprised that the way 743 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: they're running the football. I mean, when they began training camp, 744 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 1: we thought Lamar Miller and maybe Deante Foreman can finally 745 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: become who they wanted him to. But both those guys 746 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: are God Miller's hurt, Foreman was cut during camp, and 747 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: then you trade for Hide and Duke Johnson to the 748 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: course of training camp, and look what they're doing for 749 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: this football team and Watson's rushing yards. It's not like 750 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: they necessarily depend on them. When he can make some 751 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: big plays or crucial times, so that obviously helps as well. 752 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: What would you say the state of the offensive line 753 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: is right now, Mark, how are they playing? Uh, it's 754 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: a state in the offensive line in flux because they 755 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: had a good group together, but it didn't last long 756 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: because of injuries. What they want is Larrmie tuns left tackle, 757 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: Titus Howard of right tackle, and the interior guys to 758 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: do their thing. But throughout the course of the last 759 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: game they lost both tackles had to end up with well, 760 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: they had Chris Clark and right tackle. They shipped them 761 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: to left because Tunsil won out, and then they had 762 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: Damn Skipper at the right tackle. These guys were not 763 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: with the team two weeks prior to that, so they 764 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: got through the guts of that Raider game at the end. 765 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: Fronch time all of it with two tackles who were 766 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: not building a couple of weeks before the game. So 767 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,720 Speaker 1: I thought that was remarkable. But when they get everybody 768 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: back and it should be pretty soon here tunsall Howard 769 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: at the tackle spots, I think the line is gonna 770 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: be good. They just have to play together. You guys know, 771 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: if you're not playing together, if they're not out there 772 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: for for snaps week after week. It's hard to get 773 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: the chemistry you need. And it's a good thing you 774 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: have Watson who can sort of make up for some 775 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: of that. But they're still running the football pretty well 776 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: no matter who's in there. Scene. Take the numbers away 777 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: from Watson, just give me your sense of how much 778 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: better he is in the moment this year than last. 779 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it just seems. And I was listening to 780 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: your broadcast on on Sunday, UM and I heard you 781 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: say magical and I thought, wow, it must have been 782 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: a hell of a play. And when I saw it, 783 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: it was the perfect term. It just seems the kid 784 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: is playing at at a magical level when the moment 785 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: his biggest so was he Yeah, And I think he 786 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: was giving you a lot of this last year also, 787 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: but he was banged up. I mean when he played 788 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: the Jaguars in North Florida, he had that collapsed long 789 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: it to take the bus, you guys tell the whole story, uh, 790 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: And they were able to win that game. Last year, 791 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: he made some big plays. I mean he hit DeAndre 792 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: Hopkins on a pass to set him up in field 793 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: goal range to beat Dallas. He did the same thing 794 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: to be Indie the week before. But this year what 795 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: you're seeing is, I think with some of their defensive 796 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: issues on the back end, with injuries and things like that, 797 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: he's had to bring them back from deficit time and 798 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: time again and throw touchdowns. You know, field goals aren't 799 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: going to do it, and he's been able to do it. 800 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: Against the Kansas City Chiefs, he did it. And he's 801 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: been able to get clock killing against the Chiefs and 802 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: the Raiders at the end of the game form in 803 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: an offense, they made the big first down to kill 804 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: the clock. He's gotten it for them twice. And of 805 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 1: course the past catchers have to be credited as well. 806 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: Hopkins is having a great year. Darren Fells is a 807 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: revelation of tight end. But yeah, Watson has that blair 808 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: for the dramatic. He is magical, he's got the will 809 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: to win. He's got it all guys, and I can't 810 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: wait to see what materializes from here. Mark J. J. 811 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: Watt out for the rest of the season. That's a 812 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: big blow to just the NFL as a whole. But 813 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: how big of a blow is it to the Texans 814 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: now not having him? Well, it's huge because he's so dominant, 815 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: and all the opposing offensive coordinators have to stay up 816 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: late at night conceiving of ways to stop him. And 817 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: it's difficult because he's gotten so good at stopping the run. 818 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: He always has been, but this year that's really standing 819 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: out to be all the TFLs on the running backs 820 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: and things like that. The stacked numbers aren't that high 821 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: this year, but he's still putting fresher on the quarterback. 822 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: He hitched to Kobe Procett six times and the loss 823 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: to Indy and Prisette got up all those times, and 824 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: what was really amazed with that. He was having a 825 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: really good year. But he's out and it's kind of 826 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: like Billy Bean or Brad Pitt in the movie Moneyball. 827 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: I love that movie. What he says, we can't replace Giambi, 828 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: we have to sort of recreate them, and I think 829 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: they have to sort of recreate what what does? He 830 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: can't really do it, you can't duplicate it, but maybe 831 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: you can get some pass rush from Jake Martin, who 832 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: they got from Seattle, a little bit more out of 833 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: bread of Scarlett, Charles A. Metta, who is a rookie 834 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 1: from Texas who is getting to the quarterback and Whitney 835 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: Merciless has been having a good year. So with Whitney 836 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: doing what he's doing, maybe you can get to the 837 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: quarterback enough. But yeah, it's incredibly difficult to replace. Why 838 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: you just can't do it. Have you seen the movie Dodgeball? 839 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: I have. I just I'm just curious because we were 840 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: talking about that with Gardner Minshew this morning. Um, didn't 841 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: you brought up money Ball? I thought I'd insert Dodgeball 842 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: in there. Are we seeing the transition in Houston to 843 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football now? Obviously Jadeveon Clowney 844 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: we had deeps to do on in Week two and 845 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: I told her that that that moment, I thought your 846 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 1: defense was going to be much different because he was 847 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: such a game record. He never had the stats of what, 848 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: uh you know, the high sack numbers. But I know 849 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: that the Jaguars coaches always is worried about what Jadeveon 850 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: Clowney could do. He's gone now JJ is gone. Um 851 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,479 Speaker 1: you see, Jonathan Joseph is getting little longer in the tooth. 852 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: Some of the draft picks they've invested at corner, you know, 853 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: or I have moved on to other places. Have we 854 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: now seen the transition of this defense, and it's gonna 855 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: have a different personality in the future. It could because 856 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: I go back to what gets hurt Week three. So 857 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: they still have Clowney and Merciless and everybody else. And 858 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: they end up number one in the league in defense 859 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: yardage wise, and I thought that was incredible. And they 860 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: won a lot of games with low scores. And I 861 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: mean they won a game against the Bengals on Monday 862 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: Night football since he was undefeated at the time midseason 863 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,439 Speaker 1: and they wanted ten to six. They eat the colt 864 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: sixteen to ten up there for the first time ever 865 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: winning an Indian. So they won games like that. I 866 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna win too many games like that anymore. 867 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: They beat the Jags earlier this season, you saw the 868 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: low scoring close game. I think they're gonna have to 869 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: get over the twenty mark most of the weeks here. 870 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: And you know last year beating Dallas a Sunday night 871 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: football game in overtime nineteen to sixteen. I think you're right. 872 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: I always look at NFL games like this that the 873 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: number is twenty. You know, you've got to get a 874 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: buff twenty. You gotta hold down below and more often 875 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 1: than not, that's gonna get it done. I mean, obviously 876 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: on a given day at will, but that tends to 877 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 1: be the level the sea level mark in the NFL, 878 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking they've got to get three touchdowns a 879 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: game to win more often than not, just because it's 880 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 1: so tough with some of these quarterbacks you're facing. So 881 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: I hear your point and I agree with it to 882 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: an extent. But I think if they get some guys 883 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 1: back on the back end of this defense, because with 884 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: Roadie getting back soon they just traded for Conny from Oakland, 885 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: j Joe is gonna get healthy, that will really help 886 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 1: them out. But right now they're dealing with some injuries 887 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 1: that it's very tough. All right. Thank you so much 888 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,320 Speaker 1: Mark for joining us this morning. We will see you 889 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: in London. Remember no naps on Friday. Key to half 890 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 1: on Friday. That's gonna be tough. All right. Thanks cheers, 891 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 1: see later, Marks, see you over there. Hey. You know, 892 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: since since Mark brought it up and we were talking 893 00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,320 Speaker 1: about the defense, the Jaguars defense earlier, um, they held 894 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: the Saints and the Texans, two very good offenses, to 895 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: just thirteen points. So throw elite or very good out. Um. 896 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: This defense has the potential to impose its will at times, 897 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: and they made low scoring games of it. Um. I'm 898 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,439 Speaker 1: interested to see if they can do that again this week. 899 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: They've had three or five really good games one man 900 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: and two and two awful games and what was the 901 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: man a game Denver? I thought they were good at times, 902 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 1: good for getting back in it and in Kansas City, 903 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: just because with your rookie quarterback in there. Yeah, defensively, 904 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: but I remember also, yeah, they gave cheap touchdowns there 905 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: with turnovers. They played good if they played defense. They 906 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: can have a season the way they have the first Uh, 907 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 1: that'll be enough for a playoff run. All right, And 908 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: that is our show Wednesday morning, Jags Drive Times, Stay tuned, 909 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour later on this afternoon. We'll be back 910 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: tomorrow week I