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Speaker 3: We are live from the Cowboys Club at the Star

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Speaker 3: in Frisco. Welcome to Cowboys Crosstalk on Bobby Belt from

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Speaker 3: one five three the fan. We've got Kyle Yeomans from

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Speaker 3: Dallascowboys dot com, joined as always by three time Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl Champion and six time Pro Bowler.

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Speaker 4: Hey A newton yayay Hare.

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Speaker 3: He is there, He's excited and our Cowboys legend. This

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Speaker 3: evening is also a UTEP minor legend. It is former

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Speaker 3: Pro bowler, former second Team All Pro Tony Tolbert.

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Speaker 4: Tony jun what's up baby? What's up? Brother? How are

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Speaker 4: you doing?

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Speaker 5: I need a little bit more energy. Just bentsed off

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Speaker 5: of what Nate was doing a moment.

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Speaker 6: Ago and need a little bit more from I got you, man,

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Speaker 6: I got it.

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Speaker 3: He's bringing us up now. I know, Nate, you've said

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Speaker 3: before that this man right here is one of the

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Speaker 3: guys who was really involved in helping you develop some

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Speaker 3: really good work early on.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Tony Toba man, Charles came to me. Tony was

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Speaker 7: always a workhorse.

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Speaker 4: You know. He came in from uh Utep.

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Speaker 7: He was wearing one hundred and ninety eight pounds and

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Speaker 7: is that got the weight route right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Right, he's ma about about two forty five and they

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Speaker 7: brought him in as a defensive event, so he had

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Speaker 7: to gain about twenty five thirty pounds and uh, but

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Speaker 7: he's always been a guy that worked, watch what he

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Speaker 7: had and did what he had to do. But then

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Speaker 7: when Charles Hayley came in, they double team and we

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Speaker 7: used to come back after practice and we would all

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Speaker 7: work out the stairstep for just all different type of

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Speaker 7: machines to get the car too up. You know, very

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Speaker 7: little lifting for childs, but a lot from me in tobd. Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 7: he's right about that. The big thing we wanted to

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Speaker 7: do is uh not let Nate slip. What I mean

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Speaker 7: by slip you know, not get heavier, and we wanted

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Speaker 7: to make sure that you know, we were behind him, uh,

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Speaker 7: trying to be positive reinforcements going like that and push

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Speaker 7: him and push him, keep pushing him until he figured

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Speaker 6: How big was the stairstepper that that Nate was stay on?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Steps about the steps for each of these tables

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Speaker 7: boom boom, yeah, man, but you.

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Speaker 3: Know they kept you off the asthma field. It's hard

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Speaker 3: now we mentioned they're in your bio former pro bowler.

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Speaker 3: Really quickly, I know. We want to kick things off tonight. Uh, Kyle,

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Speaker 3: we had at seven o'clock tonight the NFL announced Pro

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Speaker 3: Bowlers and how many did the Dallas Cowboys score?

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Speaker 6: So starting things off, they have seven seven total Pro bowlers,

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Speaker 6: Dak Prescott, Ceedee lamb Iron, Bland, Zach Martin, Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 6: So both the kicker and the punter get in and

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Speaker 6: then really no surprise anywhere else. Great seasons for Dak

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Speaker 6: And then you've got Deron Bland breaking NFL history with

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Speaker 6: So great seven for Pro Bowl so far, and it's

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Speaker 6: not over yet. They can add some more along the way.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I want to get you all thoughts first

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Speaker 4: Well, I think Tyler Smith should be on there, Tyron.

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Speaker 8: When you miss amount of time, a certain amount of time, guys,

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Speaker 4: But the young man seventy three, he deserved to be

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Nate, Yeah, he's there there to be on it.

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Speaker 7: I agree with one hundred percent what Tony said about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's something where you know, I know there's

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Speaker 3: Did you, guys ever have somebody that you guys played

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Speaker 4: In the league finally figured that out for him.

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Speaker 3: That you felt you had to stagger the practice schedule

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Speaker 8: Yeah, matter of fact, I think I practiced what just Thursday, yes,

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Speaker 8: and they would swallow up. So they were like, you

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Speaker 8: give him a chance to play the whole game. And

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Speaker 8: they did a pretty good job of taking I mean,

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Speaker 3: Do you think that helped preserve you a little bit?

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Speaker 3: Helped get you to that Broady done so already broke up.

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Speaker 3: The Thursday only practices didn't help get you to the

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Speaker 4: Already done, bro already wrapping that thing up.

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Speaker 3: So now one of the names there that we hear there,

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott makes I believe that's his third Pro Bowl now,

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Speaker 3: just a really fantastic season from Dak. Has he tapped

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Speaker 3: Mike Tannenbaum had the quote, or no, it was Randy Mueller,

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Speaker 3: you watch a player like Dak kind of adjust and

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: You know, the thing about playing in Dallas is like

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Speaker 8: the expectations to be successful. And you know, you look

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Speaker 8: You don't want to and I'm not trying to knock

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Speaker 8: But I'm happy to see his adjustments. And that's the

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Speaker 8: big thing. Can you adjust as you get older, because

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Speaker 8: sometimes your skills are decline. Are you willing to accept

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Speaker 8: new information? And he's done a great job of doing

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Speaker 4: I just loved him because you went back to the future.

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Speaker 7: He went back to Mississippi State, got his running back,

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Speaker 7: his movement back, and that.

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Speaker 4: Has been the biggest deal.

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Speaker 7: I've always thought that he can run on offense, but

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Speaker 7: I always thought that he needed to move around. And

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Speaker 6: You talked about that earlier in the year. You wanted

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Speaker 6: rookie Dak back. That was what you kept saying, was

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Speaker 6: twenty sixteen back twenty seventeen, Deck, And I think it's

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Speaker 6: a different level to Tony's point a moment ago is

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Speaker 6: it's it's the mobility, but it's not a it's not

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Speaker 5: It's really a controlled mobility from.

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Speaker 6: Dak where he's still scanning down the field, He's still

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Speaker 6: It's helped having a CD Lamb to throw the football too,

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Speaker 6: no doubt about it, because if you do buy time

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Speaker 6: impressive to see how he's adjusted because he's not playing

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Speaker 6: he's utilizing some.

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Speaker 5: Of the skill set and some of those same things

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Speaker 5: to help him be only.

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Speaker 4: Difference is because he moved around.

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Speaker 7: In Mississippi State, the HEP's receivers get open, he moved around.

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Speaker 7: The only difference is is now he understands instead of

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Speaker 4: And that is the difference before.

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Speaker 7: Like even with Lamar, he understands now one two, okay, two,

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Speaker 7: he needs a little time move around, and that's moving

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Speaker 4: Where's the rookie he just moving around?

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Speaker 6: Well, isn't a lot of that timing as you go too.

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Speaker 6: Is that instinct of knowing the time clock because you talk,

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Speaker 5: I've got to either move or throw the football get.

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Speaker 3: It out of play.

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Speaker 6: Dak has that instinct, and you can see that in

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Speaker 6: his play here in twenty three.

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Speaker 7: Yes, he's gained it back because if you go back

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Speaker 7: to that last year and the year before, when you watch.

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Speaker 4: The film, Dak just standing in the pocket.

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Speaker 7: Oh my god, and I'm like, you're gonna get hurt

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Speaker 7: just standing there. And once he understood Coach McCarter, that

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Speaker 7: took him what four games.

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Speaker 4: Understand Coach McCart is his.

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Speaker 7: Offense and live and live color. Okay, Once he got

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Speaker 7: it down, he started moving around. And I'm telling you

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Speaker 7: or four weeks.

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Speaker 4: It ain't that.

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Speaker 7: And lord knows, I hate to say this, It ain't

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Speaker 7: that our offensive line been playing great.

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Speaker 4: It's that him and Tony Pollard has been playing great.

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Speaker 7: Pollard has been a great block and he's been picking

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Speaker 7: up blitzes and Dak has been spinning out making plays

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Speaker 7: and Ceedee Lamb has been on fire. Jake Ferguson has

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Speaker 7: been on fire. Hey, now, I hope we can continue this.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's funny. Dak's obviously taking a level up.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that people talk about with Dak though,

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Speaker 3: is at times a criticism of his from national analysts.

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Speaker 3: I guess would be, you know, when you ask people

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Speaker 3: to talk about Dak's game, what makes him so great?

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Speaker 3: A lot of times one of the first things I'll say,

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Speaker 7: Yes, and he and I'll give you a perfect example.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you mentioned there. It was a special weekend

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Speaker 5: Brandon Aubrey's throwing you a bone, right, Yeah, that's what's happening.

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Speaker 4: And that's all you want to do.

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Speaker 7: I mean, he'll be that that that deepens a man,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's earning his key.

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Speaker 3: And he's he's such a high IQ player, and he's

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Speaker 3: It's that intensible like you can't teach. He just he

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Speaker 4: My problem was gaining the weight.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, how important is that I mean you

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Speaker 3: is that an area of weight room habits that needs

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Speaker 3: to come from other players? Learn that from other players

442
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Speaker 3: rather than coming from a coaching staff edict or things

443
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Speaker 3: like that.

444
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Speaker 8: It was kind of crazy because they were in transition.

445
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Speaker 8: I think you guys went four and twelve or something

446
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Speaker 8: like that, and I was under one in fifteen roster. Yeah,

447
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 8: so when we were on the one in fifteen roster,

448
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 8: we were basically starting from scratch. And so as we

449
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Speaker 8: were building and we were all young, the expectations around

450
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Speaker 8: around everything.

451
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Speaker 4: Jimmy wouldn't let you just sit here and just coast,

452
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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 8: He would every once in a while he would just

454
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Speaker 8: cut a guy off the blue and we'd be sitting

455
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Speaker 8: there looking at each other, like, man, you better get

456
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Speaker 8: in that way, and what.

457
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Speaker 4: The heck is going on? Yeah?

458
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Speaker 8: It was curving. It was a running back that I

459
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Speaker 8: got drafted. He was from UNLV and I remember we

460
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Speaker 8: were running for the first time the sixteen one tens.

461
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Speaker 8: He missed the last one, Jimmy cutting right in front

462
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Speaker 8: of all of us, and I'm sitting there like, man,

463
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Speaker 8: am I going to be able to make it? So

464
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 8: you start questioning yourself and you start thinking, I got

465
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Speaker 8: to make sure I gotta do what I'm supposed to do,

466
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Speaker 8: and so that that was a big part of it.

467
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Speaker 4: But you know, the the energy in the room.

468
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Speaker 8: We didn't allow guys to just come in here and

469
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Speaker 8: mess up our stuff. We knew right away if you

470
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Speaker 8: was going to be one of the guys that was

471
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Speaker 8: gonna sit here and coast and talked all the time

472
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Speaker 8: and didn't want to do what you wanted to do,

473
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Speaker 8: that we needed you to do. We were trying to

474
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Speaker 8: get you up out.

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Speaker 3: Of here, Nate. What's the stuff that I mean? Obviously

476
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Speaker 3: there are some things that you would expect the coaching

477
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Speaker 3: staff to be responsible for. Like when we talk about

478
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Speaker 3: on field, like you know, little details and discipline, I

479
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 3: think a lot of people go like, Okay, that's that's

480
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Speaker 3: a coaching thing, Like that's the thing that the coaches

481
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 3: need to take that. Where do you think player leadership

482
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Speaker 3: and responsibility? What areas of the Monday through Saturday grind

483
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: where the game day grind come from. Hey, that needs

484
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Speaker 3: to be player leadership, really setting the tone for guys.

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Speaker 4: You know what.

486
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Speaker 7: It was so the worlds was so different, and I

487
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 7: tell people we can stop with when the Sala recap

488
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 7: became what it was, all that coach and player all

489
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Speaker 7: that stuff.

490
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Speaker 4: Went out of window.

491
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Speaker 7: Now it comes down to you got to draft the

492
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Speaker 7: right guy from the start. You gotta have draft a

493
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Speaker 7: guy that care about football and care about winning. That's

494
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Speaker 7: just the bottom line. Because if you expect him for

495
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Speaker 7: the guy that just got paid one hundred and fifty

496
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Speaker 7: million dollars over ten years, they go talk to a

497
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Speaker 7: dude who ain't making him for forty five thousand dollars

498
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Speaker 7: a year. That dude's making for he don't want to

499
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Speaker 7: hear you, Brough. And that's just how it is. These

500
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Speaker 7: kids are built different and it's about their money. Show

501
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Speaker 7: them how to make plays and they'll be about that money.

502
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Speaker 7: But just working out and all of this it's got

503
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Speaker 7: to come from within. That is why I think scouting

504
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 7: is so much more difficult now because you have to

505
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Speaker 7: go find the right type of guy. And if you

506
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 7: got that guy, then he could be led. But if

507
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 7: you don't have that guy, I don't care what you do,

508
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Speaker 7: and it's not gonna work.

509
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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna add to that.

510
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Speaker 8: Like in our defensive line meeting room, we used to

511
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Speaker 8: have this a fine deal, Like if.

512
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Speaker 4: You jumped offside, that was five dollars.

513
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Speaker 8: If you missed the block that was, you know, a tackle,

514
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Speaker 8: that was five dollars.

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Speaker 4: Whatever, you messed.

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Speaker 8: Up a game, Yeah, if you messed up a game,

517
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Speaker 8: if you got slaughtered and it looked real ugly on film,

518
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Speaker 8: that was ten dollars. And what it did, it reinforced

519
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Speaker 8: the things that we were trying to do, and it

520
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Speaker 8: put pressure on you because we're sitting here watching you,

521
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Speaker 8: you know, through practice as well as the game, and

522
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Speaker 8: we're gonna sit there and talk about you. To be honest,

523
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Speaker 8: it didn't matter who it was, from Charles to myself

524
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Speaker 8: to Shan Tey, there was an expectit like, look, when

525
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Speaker 8: you walk in this room, we can joke, we can

526
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Speaker 8: do what we need to do, but when we get

527
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Speaker 8: on this film.

528
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Speaker 4: We're gonna prepare ourselves.

529
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Speaker 8: We're gonna take care of our business, and we're gonna

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Speaker 8: be the team that we need to.

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Speaker 5: Be it kind of sounds like it was a failed

532
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Speaker 5: proof system.

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Speaker 6: There were levels to it because you talked about the

534
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Speaker 6: coaching and and really the fear that was instilled, but.

535
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Speaker 5: Not necessarily fear.

536
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Speaker 3: It was fear, okay, So it was a little bit

537
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Speaker 3: of fear that was instilled in early on.

538
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Speaker 6: And then you have the accountability, and then you have

539
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Speaker 6: the within do you feel like I mean a lot

540
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Speaker 6: all of that falls under the umbrella.

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Speaker 7: When a guy walks up to you and says, hey, man,

542
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Speaker 7: I watch you on film. First six games, you look

543
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 7: like all pro. Then I watched you the last ten games,

544
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 7: you look like trash. This is what I'm gonna do

545
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 7: for you. Now, This guy says, come with me and

546
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Speaker 7: Tobert and I'm gonna show.

547
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Speaker 4: You how to work out. Where his was weight gain.

548
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Speaker 7: And weightlifting, mind was conditioning and walking on all these

549
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 7: different machines. But how you gonna tell a man who's

550
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Speaker 7: willing to give up his time, no, yeah, when he's

551
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 7: gonna do this Monday, Monday went, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday

552
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 7: we worked out. So it's about can you get enough

553
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 7: guys like Charles Haley who care about winning, Tony Toby

554
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 7: who cares about winning to say, hey, Nate, you need

555
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 7: to quit acting up and come on in this weight room.

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Speaker 6: Do you feel like they have those types of guys

557
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Speaker 6: in that fail Prouf system and off of what you've seen.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, you know, And I try not to

559
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Speaker 7: get that close because I was a guy who called

560
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Speaker 7: me today, mister Wilke and John Wooden who got contacts

561
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Speaker 7: over there. He said, man, I want you to start

562
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Speaker 7: working with old line. I told him no because he

563
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Speaker 7: say why because I don't. I'm not a custard like

564
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 7: I used to be, and I'm not an out of

565
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Speaker 7: disrespect grown man.

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Speaker 4: But it's not enough practice.

567
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 7: Time to hone your skills. The players don't know they

568
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 7: crushing themselves. You may play longer, but you're not gonna

569
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Speaker 7: play at a high level. And I guess it's about

570
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Speaker 7: making your money.

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Speaker 4: That's all.

572
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 7: Well, But don't you want to play at a high

573
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 7: level a long time? We're going to be like Zach Martin,

574
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Speaker 7: Yeah for a long time, DeMarcus Lawrence, Yeah for a

575
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Speaker 7: long time.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

577
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Speaker 7: And that's what you That's why scouting is so premium now,

578
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Speaker 7: getting the right guy, getting close to the right guy,

579
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Speaker 7: like a bunch of forty nine is a bunch of ravens.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, I promise we're gonna get into

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Speaker 3: some Jimmy Johnson stories. I promise we're gonna.

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Speaker 4: Love you getting to Jimmy right now.

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Speaker 3: I promise we're gonna let Tony and Nate both weigh

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Speaker 3: in on how they they think it should go when

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Speaker 3: a player is checking himself in and making himself eligible.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys legend this evening is Tony Tolbert. Now, the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: had a big victory over the Lions this past weekend.

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Speaker 3: On Saturday Night, twenty to nineteen. It wasn't without some controversy, obviously,

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Speaker 3: and in terms of guys reporting eligible throws on second

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Speaker 3: down that stopped the clock late. A lot of different

602
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Speaker 3: things come out of this game, but the biggest headline,

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Speaker 3: of course, is the return of Jimmy Johnson. I know,

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Speaker 3: Nate that you were in attendance. You got to see

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Speaker 3: a lot of your old teammates. My first question, are

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Speaker 3: you surprised at all, Nate that we didn't get a

607
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Speaker 3: bigger tear up moment from Jimmy. Jimmy, Jimmy controlled it,

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Speaker 3: he chose, he held back the tears.

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Speaker 7: He just say, Jimmy, I mean he tried to go

610
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 7: into his soft move, but it just didn't work.

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Speaker 4: Jimmy just Jimmy man the lead of men. I love

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Speaker 4: coach Man, Tony.

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Speaker 3: What was your what's some of your favorite stories or

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Speaker 3: your moments that stand out from your time with Jimmy Johnson.

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Speaker 8: Well, there was a run, our second Super Bowl run,

616
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 8: and we played Philadelphia Minnesota and I think the Jets

617
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 8: within a three week period, and so we played Philadelphia.

618
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Speaker 8: Randall Cunningham wasn't playing, and I remember losing contained I

619
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Speaker 8: got blasted one time chip block and the quarterback ran

620
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Speaker 8: out the pocket and scored a touchdown, and Jimmy.

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Speaker 4: Gave me just look, you know, like okay, and so

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Speaker 4: we won the game.

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Speaker 8: The next week we played Minnesota, and this is you know,

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Speaker 8: be pre Charles and Jimmy conflict, and so the same

625
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Speaker 8: thing happened. Another guy chip blocked me, lost contained, they

626
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Speaker 8: scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Jimmy was hot.

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Speaker 8: He got me to the sideline and he got that

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Speaker 8: lip gum and he ripped me a new one. So

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Speaker 8: I was like, okay. So the next week they took

631
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Speaker 8: me off Nickel. They put Leon on the defensive end,

632
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Speaker 8: and so we were playing the Jets and Leon went

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Speaker 8: out there and lost containing. I was standing next to

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Speaker 8: Jimmy and Jimmy looked at me, and I looked at

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Speaker 8: him and I did a smile.

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Speaker 4: He was like, oh, shang, I can't get you in there.

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Speaker 8: He started doing his lip and I just you know,

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Speaker 8: we joked about it on the way back from New York,

639
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Speaker 8: but that was one of the biggest deals that we've had.

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Speaker 8: And and you know, and to add to that, what

641
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 8: was funny about it was me and Jimmy we really

642
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 8: didn't have a lot of conversations. But like when I

643
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 8: would pass him, he would show me love, respect, Hey, man,

644
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 8: appreciate the way you're playing, et cetera, and so I

645
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Speaker 8: you know I got it. He would leave, to be honest,

646
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Speaker 8: he would leave you alone if you was doing your thing.

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Speaker 8: But every once in a while he would he would

648
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Speaker 8: poke you to make sure you know you would control.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Tony Tobert, j and Novcheck and probably one other

650
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 7: guy where you never thought they spoke. But you know, Jimmy,

651
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Speaker 7: I'm serious, you would think him and Jay Man, he

652
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Speaker 7: used to be so funny. He'll come to the locker room,

653
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Speaker 7: He'll speak to everybody. He look at Jay, nod his head,

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Speaker 7: He'll he'll see Toba. He's just But when they go

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Speaker 7: around the corner, Jimmy gonna show you some love.

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Speaker 4: That's what they thought about Nate too.

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Speaker 3: They were like Nate never just like yeah, you you

658
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Speaker 3: don't even know what Nate's voice sounds.

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Speaker 4: You know what I now?

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Speaker 3: Nate, I know you did get a chance to catch

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Speaker 3: up with Jimmy and a lot of your former teammates.

662
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Speaker 3: How how cool was the experience on Saturday? I just

663
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 3: seen a bunch of the old guy. Was it like

664
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Speaker 3: kind of like a reunion.

665
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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, man, and I did a lot of interviews. Man,

666
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 7: I could, and they let them do it. They allowed

667
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 7: me to be me and we have fun.

668
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: I know, Kyle said, I need to go to Dallas

669
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Speaker 3: Cowboys dot com for real.

670
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Speaker 4: It's on the Cowboys YouTube.

671
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: We we just let Nate have.

672
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 6: A free roaming microphone with his teammates.

673
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Speaker 4: It really is. They're all chopped up. In the individual interviews.

674
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 6: Nate did a great job, but it also shows the

675
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 6: camaraderie of that group, right. I mean it looked like

676
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 6: you guys had not spent any time apart.

677
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 4: And those were some guys there, and I got everyone

678
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 4: on the number. I got everyone of them.

679
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 7: And the thing that is so amazing is Jimmy still

680
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 7: treated me the same to It was.

681
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Speaker 4: Just I just said of usself, everybody, how you doing?

682
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 4: He asks about people, kids, how you doing? All? Good

683
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Speaker 4: to see it? Oh man?

684
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 7: He loving on everybody and and we can we can,

685
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 7: we can say hey on this. And the first thing

686
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 7: he saw me was I said, coach, John's what's up? Nay,

687
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 7: good to see you. The first thing he told me

688
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Speaker 7: to do it I saw you was a run your

689
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 7: come on, coach you asked about everybody else kids, you

690
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 7: asked condition and I'm still like no, I'm still gonna

691
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Speaker 7: talk to it.

692
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: While he likes you.

693
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Speaker 7: That's oh yeah, man, oh yeah. I just the thing

694
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 7: that that makes that team special. And like I tapped,

695
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's you know, good or bad.

696
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 7: However do you want to look at it.

697
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 4: And take it?

698
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 7: But the man was focused and he prepared. He had

699
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 7: a plan for us. I remember after our first season,

700
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 7: he was coming back off a roll game and he

701
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 7: was on the plane and gave us the schedule of

702
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 7: how the all season look on what's gonna be. And

703
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 7: normally you just go up to the trainer, sign a

704
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 7: little sheet of paper and you out of that.

705
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 4: Once you get off the.

706
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Speaker 7: Plane, you have to come in the next day for

707
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 7: phill Nah Jim, and like everybody's going now we're doing

708
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Speaker 7: exit physicals.

709
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you the.

710
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 7: He gave us a little pre deal and then that

711
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 7: Monday he told her this is what's.

712
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 4: Gonna happen on this day, this day, this day, this day,

713
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 4: and were like, man, we don't get but a.

714
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 7: Month off, a month off from the end of this

715
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 7: our season, which was no playoff a month off and

716
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 7: we was back to work.

717
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Speaker 4: Bro.

718
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Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. One of the things Jimmy talked

719
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 3: about during his speech at halftime was he was talking

720
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: about all the great assistant coaches that he had and

721
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 3: the guys like that, And we obviously know a lot

722
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: of those guys went on to have head coaching jobs

723
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: and other opportunities. It was a really stacked group, not

724
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: just with the coaching staff future coaches. On the actual defense,

725
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: Kennon Junior becomes a defensive coordinator. Ray Horton obviously had

726
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: the uh I know the coaches have talked about famously

727
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 3: him recognizing on the goal line stop in the first

728
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: Super Bowl against Buffalo. He saw something and called it out.

729
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: And so when you look at that group that you

730
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: guys had, at assistant coach who stood out to you

731
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: guys as as just some of the great assistant coaches

732
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: you guys played with during that era of like, Hey,

733
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: that's somebody who really impacted me and made a difference on.

734
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 4: Our full time while we was playing.

735
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, during that jim those Jimmy years.

736
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 7: You never thought that Ken Norton would be Now Ray Horton,

737
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 7: you see him as a coach Juda never thought that

738
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 7: Ken Norton would be a coach. And I'm gonna tell

739
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 7: you who was smart as a will. Uh that's James Washington. Yeah,

740
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 7: you know, and I think he's at you soay doing

741
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 7: things something. I mean, all it's you named anybody that

742
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 7: was connected to us and whoever wanted to do TV

743
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 7: radio coach.

744
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Speaker 4: Every one of these.

745
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 7: Guys are doing a successful, great job, ear Mike All. Yeah,

746
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Speaker 7: all of them.

747
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: Man. And so Kylen does that Kyle?

748
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 3: Have you had a chance to talk to James Washington

749
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 3: before one time? So, James Washington is one of the

750
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: greatest interviews you'll ever have. I remember, It's got so

751
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 3: much emotion.

752
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: It's just I.

753
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: Remember Darren Woodson had told me the story one time

754
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: about halftime of Super Bowl twenty eight where you guys

755
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: were down at thirteen six, I think at halftime, and

756
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: he said that, you know, everybody was out there and

757
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 3: he said, James Washington looked over at him and he said, y'all,

758
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: blankety blanks, get on my back. I got this. And

759
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 3: he comes up and he has the scoop and score

760
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 3: the next time. And I know we've talked about that

761
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: a little bit. Nate the idea of having those dogs

762
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: in the locker room and those guys who will step

763
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: up in this game against Detroit. Did you at least

764
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: feel like within the moment you saw a little bit

765
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: more of that? On defense this week? You saw Jordan

766
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 3: Lewis come up make a big play, Donovan Wilson said

767
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: the tone, and DeMarcus Lawren's obviously coming up with some

768
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: hugton that thing you've been calling for X weeks. Do

769
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: you think you saw a little bit more of it

770
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: this week?

771
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 7: I saw enough of it to note this right here,

772
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 7: we have an opportunity to have a home game.

773
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: We have no fear at home. You do.

774
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 7: Just win this game against Washington and you're at home

775
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 7: and all this other stuff we've been talking about to December,

776
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 7: run this that being up, You are right where.

777
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: This is what Coach Johnson was so great at.

778
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 7: If we would have had that batter December and it

779
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 7: would have been he would have we would have had

780
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Speaker 7: a meeting the next day.

781
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: He would have.

782
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 7: Cussed us out, and at the end of it he

783
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 7: would have said, you are right where.

784
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 4: You want to be. You can change history right now.

785
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: That's all you gotta do. You are right They are

786
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 4: right where they want to be. Come on, man, man, please, man,

787
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 4: And I agree with him.

788
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 8: It's such a big difference with them playing here and

789
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 8: being on the roll. Why not get home home field

790
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 8: advantage and use the crowd your ability. You're at home,

791
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 8: you play faster, You you know, you in tune to

792
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 8: what's going on on the field, and the one thing

793
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 8: that you notice about them, like, especially defensively, you don't

794
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 8: run wide on this team here because of the turf,

795
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 8: they're completing passes down the field. The crowd gets into

796
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 8: it and once this team gets ahead here and ain't

797
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 8: pretty much done.

798
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: Did you did you on any of the teams that

799
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 3: you played on? You you played from eighty nine to ninety seven, Yes,

800
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 3: I believe was on any of the teams that you

801
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 3: played on. Did you guys feel like, man, there was

802
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: a noticeable difference between how we played at home and

803
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 3: on the road. Obviously, home is an advantage for everybody,

804
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 3: you feel like, but was there every time where you

805
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: felt like, man, this team like, we just don't quite

806
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: have the same mojo when we're on the road as

807
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: we are at home.

808
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 4: No, nope, no, is that a mental thing.

809
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 6: You just talked about it there's no frev at home.

810
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 6: But is it a mental thing with this team right now?

811
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 8: With I think we had enough ignorant in a in

812
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 8: a good way. People didn't get damn where we played

813
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 8: at and so we were we were in the mindset

814
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 8: you just think I'm practicing against Larry Reality big Eie,

815
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 8: Nate tooey Uh, James Washington's covering Nova check play makeup

816
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 8: well well Kmart, Yes, and we going on the road.

817
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 8: Practice is harder than play in the game. We wasn't

818
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 8: going to sit here and let you just punk us.

819
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 8: You know, when we lost our games, to be honest,

820
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 8: it's because we decide we went in the game.

821
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 4: It just blew it. Yeah. A lot of times we

822
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 4: played a team that was and we didn't Yeah, and

823
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 4: we didn't respect We didn't respect it. We didn't respect it.

824
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 3: I remember Moose said something like that. But like he said,

825
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: I think he said, there was a game you guys

826
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: lost to New Orleans or something. There was one game

827
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 3: I can't remember, but he said, like during our super runs,

828
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: He's like, oftentimes the games that we would lose, it's

829
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: like you had no business pas in that game, which

830
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: we didn't take them seriously.

831
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 8: We would usually impose our will on a team, and

832
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 8: that was the mindset we came in with and as

833
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Speaker 8: the mindset.

834
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 4: We left with to be honest. So that home road split,

835
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 4: I didn't see it, not with that bunch.

836
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,239
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837
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838
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Speaker 3: talking about overlooking teams a little bit and how that

861
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Speaker 3: was a struggle for you guys at times. Cowboys were

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863
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Speaker 8: Just knowing the goal at hand. If you win, you

866
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Speaker 8: will have at least two home games here and you'll

867
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 8: be one game away from getting to your destination and

868
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 8: everybody's goal. You will be one of those teams that

869
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 8: get to one of your goals. So it's important that

870
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 8: you start fast. And usually when you play teams at

871
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 8: the end of the year that don't want to play,

872
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 8: you can tell right away, guys, are you know, trying

873
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Speaker 8: not to.

874
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 4: Get hurt, et cetera. So you got to go out

875
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 4: and make sure you give them no chance because the

876
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 4: longer they hang around, the more competitive the game. You

877
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 4: one or two players away from from losing the game.

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Speaker 7: Nate, you know what, man, you said that over the

879
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 7: years we lost, but never situations like that. You know,

880
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 7: understand where you at and what's your goal and what

881
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 7: is the what what if I walk out of there

882
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 7: with a victory against the Washington Commanders, I got two

883
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 7: home games.

884
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 4: Bottom line, That's how.

885
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 7: You gotta look at it. And it's no other way

886
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 7: to look at it if you don't understand that. And

887
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 7: your stars have to play. Your stars have to play.

888
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 7: So when we come down to the end of the

889
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 7: game and it is close, we've had no ignorant penalties,

890
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 7: we've had no turnovers, and guess who win the game?

891
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 7: A guy like Jalen Tober because they don't try to

892
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 7: take out Cede Lamb.

893
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 4: They done made sure that Jake Ferguson, they get the ball.

894
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 7: Now, hey, you boy sitting in the back of the

895
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 7: end zone, Jaylen Tobert for a touchdown. Good, and we

896
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 7: beat these dudes, man, We beat these dudes twenty four

897
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 7: to twenty one. Come on, man, but we ain't had

898
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 7: no stupid penalties.

899
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 4: And remember Jimmy Tolder.

900
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 7: We went up to Green Bay, Milwaukee, wherever he said, fellas,

901
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 7: we gonna beat this team, play clean, no turnovers, and

902
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 7: I don't care if we beat them by and IRV crossing.

903
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 7: Randy Gross was deep, they was in an they was enraged.

904
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 7: But guess what, no bad penalties, no turnovers. We walk

905
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 7: out of a beat them.

906
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 4: You are who you are.

907
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 6: It goes back to what you were talking about in

908
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 6: the segment prior of if you don't like where you are,

909
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 6: change it. Thank you don't like where you are changing,

910
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 6: this is an opportunity for you to change it, at

911
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 6: least in one setting. All year long, it's been Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Philadelphia.

912
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 4: The NFC East is there.

913
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 5: Yes, now you have a chance to take it, and

914
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 5: it's sitting right there.

915
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 4: I mean, if anything, you've already taken it.

916
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 5: You just got to do one last thing and that's

917
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 5: when you win the game.

918
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 4: And thank you.

919
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 7: You're so right, Kyle, You're so right. That's why my

920
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 7: name is Nathaniel Newton Jr. And I used to beat

921
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 7: up Timmy Newton. Now I can't beat up Timmy and Newton.

922
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 7: Now Timmy Newton can beat you, brother, But when we

923
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 7: was growing up, I'm the big brother. I pounce on

924
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 7: you dog. And that's how they Washington has always been

925
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 7: second to the cowboys.

926
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 4: Don't don't change that. They they believe it. They believe

927
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 4: they suckond to us.

928
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 3: Did you ever beat up Tolbert in practice?

929
00:49:59,080 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 9: No?

930
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 4: I do it to me to.

931
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 7: Do one't quick? Yeah, I mean I had, I had

932
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 7: one hundred pounds on him. He still wouldn't quit.

933
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:12,959
Speaker 4: He was putting you on the stairs step. Yeah, yes, man, y'all.

934
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 3: Who was most likely to start a practice fight during

935
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: during y'all.

936
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 4: Time, Kevin Gogan. Yeah, I had to fight with Kevin

937
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 4: Kevin Gogan.

938
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 7: Man, but Gog would beat up rookies, you know, like

939
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 7: this rookie, especially if you went into if we was

940
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 7: at like ots they called him these days.

941
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 4: We called it off season training. That was just the

942
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 4: bottom like we ain't had no shortcut words.

943
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 7: Uh we said, we said the full world because we

944
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 7: weren't getting paid.

945
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 4: Her word.

946
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, but anyway, a guy would show out during those

947
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 7: times of o t as and Kevin says soon and

948
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 7: they as soon as we getting passed, I'm gonna twist

949
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 7: his wig.

950
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 4: They know what that, you know, the twist wig.

951
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 7: The mint for Kevin Gogan was he gonna be fighting

952
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 7: you all of a sudden, he gonna grad you the

953
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 7: head lock your hail.

954
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: But it was all the way around. You'd be looking

955
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 4: at the back of your help.

956
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: How your fight started.

957
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 4: What happened with you guys? You know, I don't even know.

958
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 8: I'm just we were just, uh, matter of fact, we

959
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 8: were staying in there and next thing I know, he

960
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 8: swung at me and I'm.

961
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 4: Like, well, hell do you? It was going off. It

962
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 4: was going on for a while. It was brewing.

963
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 7: Col Gogan had punk some excuse me, he had missed

964
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 7: you some dude. Yeah, wrong word. So, uh, he had

965
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 7: missed you from doing toe but like, man, that ain't cool,

966
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 7: and he like he looked at Tod like what do

967
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 7: you dude? He swung it to the next thing they

968
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 7: going and.

969
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 4: We was going.

970
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 8: I'm sure everybody was surprised. And then we lined up well,

971
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 8: and then we lined up it was like nothing happened.

972
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 8: It's like, okay, next play, next fight.

973
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 3: So this is a big game obviously this week against

974
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: the Commanders. Like reference during y'all's ere I mean, the

975
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 3: Commanders have long been, you know, a a historic rival

976
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: for the Cowboys, I know, specifically for for y'all's team.

977
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 3: One of the the things that history remembers about that

978
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: ninety zero Cowboys team is the coming out party of

979
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: Oh these kids have something was ninety one RFK eleven

980
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: and Oh Washington, you get the hail married Alvin Harper

981
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: at the end of the first half. You go in there,

982
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: you really handle that football team, and everybody kind of

983
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 3: takes a notice and goes, oh, Cowboys might might be here.

984
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: What are y'all's memories from going into that game and

985
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 3: preparing for that game, a game that a lot of

986
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: the rest of the NFL said, nobody's got any business.

987
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 4: They Yeah, to be the everything you got it the

988
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 4: gorilla speak. Yeah, yeah, that was it. Yeah, yeah, it was.

989
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 8: We hung around, and we hung around, and we made

990
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 8: an on side I mean he was pulling everything out

991
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 8: the hat, uh and then you know Hart with the

992
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 8: Hail Mary. Everything just came together that day. We played

993
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 8: great offensively, defensively. And the thing about Washington at that

994
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 8: time and a special team, Washington was mowing over people

995
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 8: and we were fast enough. We were probably one of

996
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 8: the only teams that were fast enough to give them fits. Defensively,

997
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 8: we didn't turn the ball over it and we we

998
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 8: did our thing and we walked out of it, and.

999
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, we're not too far from here.

1000
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you guys, I think after that game, I

1001
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: don't believe you guys lost a game the rest of

1002
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 3: the regular season. I think you went on a run

1003
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: all the way through to the end. I think you

1004
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 3: went eleven and five that year. That victory puts you

1005
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: at seven and five. You guys go into Soldier Field,

1006
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 3: you beat a Bears team on the road, a veteran

1007
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: Bears team led by I think Jim Harbaugh was the

1008
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 3: quarter day and so you guys go in there, play

1009
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 3: and play a really tough game. Season obviously ends disappointingly

1010
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: the next week against Detroit.

1011
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 7: But when you guys, why why did y'all quicknesses not

1012
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,959
Speaker 7: help us get wet?

1013
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, does Jimmy do that bite the

1014
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 3: gum when Barry tackle?

1015
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 4: You have already done.

1016
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 3: You have a got a couple of minutes. We got

1017
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: got three minutes.

1018
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 7: We left that game and we were all coaches and

1019
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 7: everybody I know. We were just oh yeah, we we here,

1020
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 7: we arrived. Move was going off. Coaches was with us,

1021
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 7: the head, the sister, all of them was right.

1022
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 4: We was talking.

1023
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 7: Jimmy walked through that dope, what is that brong? Which

1024
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 7: he went off on us for like ten minutes. This

1025
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 7: is not how we do it. We are better than this.

1026
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 7: And then he gave us the little pre this is

1027
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 7: what we'll be doing. You get a month off and

1028
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 7: this is what we'll be doing because we're better than this.

1029
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 7: He shot down the whole party. Wow, he shot down

1030
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 7: the whole he did, we are bigger than this. Yes,

1031
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 7: I think he drafted like thirty DB's yeah, yeah, I'm

1032
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 7: here the next year.

1033
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 4: I'm telling you the dB again, it was everybody.

1034
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 7: Brown that that Hey man, Jimmy, like, we need offense

1035
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,959
Speaker 7: linean col and don't you be talking about nothing else.

1036
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 7: We need to draft out offensive lineman on draft coverage

1037
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 7: from the second round all the way, everything should.

1038
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 3: Be offensive on the offensive. But when that game ends

1039
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: against Detroit, you got you guys obviously had had about rosite,

1040
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 3: but given what you had built on, did you guys

1041
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 3: have a sense of hey, next year, like we're ready

1042
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 3: Because I know the narrative. You go back and watch

1043
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 3: pregame shows from that ninety two NFC Championship game, people

1044
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 3: talk about, oh, Dallas arrived a year earlier than we

1045
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 3: all thought. But did you guys have the confidence enter

1046
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 3: of the year of like, no, we're ready, we know

1047
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 3: what we built here in ninety one.

1048
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 4: You know what.

1049
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 8: To be honest, I didn't have any particular feeling. We

1050
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 8: just went in the beginning of the year and we

1051
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 8: beat the I think we started off with the NFC East,

1052
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 8: so we played all four of the other teams early

1053
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 8: in the year and we went three and one, and

1054
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 8: so we were already ahead of the game. I think

1055
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 8: we lost the Philadelphia on the Monday night, but we

1056
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 8: beat the Giants on the roll. We beat Washington at home,

1057
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 8: and I believe Arizona on the roll, and so we

1058
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 8: were three and one and ahead of everybody in the division.

1059
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 8: They still had to play, Like I remember Washington com

1060
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 8: playing at the end of that year because they had

1061
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 8: the same schedule we had in the beginning of the

1062
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 8: year and they thought it was unfair. But this year, yeah,

1063
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 8: nobody thought nothing about that when we were playing it.

1064
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 8: But we started off and we won a lot of

1065
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 8: games early and so we will allow some slipp it

1066
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 8: somewhere down in it. I think we were like eight

1067
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 8: and one at the half points, you know, at the

1068
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 8: halfway point, and we took out of our business and

1069
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 8: it was all new to us. Every week was a

1070
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 8: new experience with yus. It was so we didn't know

1071
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 8: any better, to be honest.

1072
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the opportunity to take care of businesses right

1073
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 3: in front of the Cowboys this week with the Commanders

1074
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 3: the number two seed, a chance for a couple of

1075
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 3: home playoff games is on the line. That doesn't for

1076
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 3: us here at the SLBBC Mortgage Cowboys Cross Talk. Thank

1077
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 3: you to Kylie Owens from Dallascowboys dot Com, Nate Newton

1078
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: and our Cowboys legend. This evening, Tony told her Tony,

1079
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for

1080
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 3: having Cowboys and the Commanders this Sunday in Washington. We

1081
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 3: will talk to you guys again next week.

1082
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,600
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1083
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