WEBVTT - CZM Rewind: Part Two: Dr. Oz: Why 'America's Doctor' Is A Bastard 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.560 This is behind the bastards the podcast. Will we nag 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:09.200 our audience in order to make them more closely drawn 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:13.960 to us. It's a tactic I learned from pickup artists. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:18.360 From pickup artists. Yes, really, this whole show is based 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.560 on the lessons I learned as a pickup artist. You 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.200 can't see it that I'm wearing an enormous hat with 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.960 ostrich plumes coming off made out of purple felt. It's 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:33.440 an incredible hat, the most fuckable hat, the most fuckable hat. Yes, 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.320 that was actually the first name I pitched for this podcast, 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.879 but Sophie said that that means nothing and no one 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:41.239 will listen to it, so we will. 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.879 We always pushed lies on my name and saying that 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:45.479 I turned down his ideas. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.720 That's just not the case, Sylvie. I think we can 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:50.279 all agree that one of the best things to do 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.040 is to lie about things your colleagues didn't do because 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:53.600 it's funny. 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:56.080 I agree with it. 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:01.560 Thank you. Onto the show. We're talking about doctor Odds, 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.920 and as we left the last episode off, he had 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:11.240 just you know, gotten Oprah right, started his TV career, 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:15.560 gotten Oprah hard. So he started his TV career, and 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:17.640 he also starts Right around the same time he gets 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:19.679 on TV for the first time, he starts a daily 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:24.319 morning radio show on Oprah Winfrey's Serious XM channel. Never 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.360 a good idea, Serious XM, No terrible idea. 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:32.080 What is it about giving people three hours of uninterrupted airtime? 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:32.920 You know? 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.120 There's just something about it, you know. 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.360 And this is an opinion that's pretty controversial within iHeartRadio. 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.640 I think radio should be illegal, and I think it 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:45.520 should be a felony punished by prison time for being 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.480 on the radio or having a radio or thinking about 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:48.920 the radio. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:49.559 Yeah. 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.320 I think the only form of entertainment that should be 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.520 legal is specifically my podcast. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:59.880 Yeah yeah, one podcast, yeah yeah, And there should legally 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:04.320 only be one Sopranos podcast allowed, which, as it turns out, 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:04.840 is the case. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:06.800 So I think if we, if we could get Chuck 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:11.040 Schumer's ear, we can make this happen. We'll tack this 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:15.600 onto the pot bill, no one will notice. So Doctor 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.000 Oz has the Doctor Oz Show. He's got a radio 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:22.040 show on Winfrey's XM channel where he covers very scientific 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:26.120 topics like how God changes your brain and the happiest 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:30.560 people in the world. Now, I found a New York 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.239 Times article that was written just a few months into 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.040 his tenure with his TV show, kind of at the 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:39.040 start of his burst into stardom, and the interviewer who 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.880 talked to Oz for this article seems as impressed as 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.480 everyone always is by the manic, somewhat inhuman pace at 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:49.240 which Memet Oz works. By this point, he'd also written 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:53.080 six books with titles like You the Smart Patient, You 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.600 on a Diet, and You Having a Baby. It's like 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:00.000 the series is the Yeah, yeah, the famous You colon whatever. 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.360 And he co writes these books with another doctor. I 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.040 can't tell you how much of the writing was a 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:06.639 lot of times. I'm not saying this is the case 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.519 with doctor Oz because he's a wild workaholic, but a 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.480 lot of times, when you have a guy that's his 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.320 kind of famous and they write a bunch of books, 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.839 they write like ten percent of the book and they 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.600 have someone else, a co author or a ghostwriter, do 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:19.920 the rest. I don't know if that's the case. 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:24.520 Here's one Matt Damon who's writing most of Goodwill Hunting, 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.320 and then there's a Ben Affleck. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.200 Who gets top booking. 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.840 And I do believe Matt Damon writes most of his books. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:35.920 Uh yeah, So nine million copies of his various titles 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.040 are in print by this point, like the first year 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.080 of his show, So he is he is a very 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.320 wealthy and successful man, pretty much out the gate like 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.440 money machine. Getting the start on Oprah kind of guarantees it. Basically, 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.480 if Oprah likes you enough to put you on her 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.400 show more than once, you're going to get rich. 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:53.720 Damn. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:58.080 Yeah, I just I just should have spent my youth 0:03:58.160 --> 0:03:59.320 trying to get on Oprah. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:05.040 Should have we all should have. So doctor Oz gets 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:08.480 a semi regular column for Time magazine because again they 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.360 see this guy get famous and like, we got to 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.000 get some of that Oprah money too. We get this 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:16.440 guy on Time, people will start reading Time again and yeah, 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.320 it's interesting. They give him a column, and in two 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.080 thousand and eight they included him on their list of 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.559 the world's most one hundred most influential people. So before 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.360 they hire him to a calumn they call him one 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.040 of the world's most influential people. And as soon as 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.040 he gets listed as one of the hundred most influential 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:38.000 people on the planet, Doctor Oz calls his dad right like, finally, Yeah, 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.039 this has gotta be the thing. How could he not 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:41.080 be impressed by this. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.080 Am I enough for you? 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.360 Pa? So when he tells his dad, his dad's first 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.680 question is what numbers? 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.960 Enough? How the list? 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.080 And this is not a ranked thing, like it's not 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.400 the top hundred, like going to one. It's just like 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:02.640 these hundred people are all very not a listical. Yeah, 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:08.719 it's not a listical. But doctor Oz in this interview, 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.560 seemed to acknowledge that the fact that his dad reacted 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.240 that way said a lot about both you know his 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.560 dad and about their relationship. He told an interviewer quote, 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.960 he wants to know what number? Are you kidding me? 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.240 There are six billion people on the planet. It's a 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:23.160 rounding error. 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:29.080 Oh god? But but like, but like what number though? 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.200 Because you want how high are you? Motherfucker? Yeah? 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.880 Come on, you're basically me. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:39.440 Yeah. So that interviewer, along with The New York Times, 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.080 wrote quote, it's also the kind of thing that goads 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.800 the sun to climb mountain after mountain, seldom pausing to 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:48.400 enjoy the view. The Good Doctor did admit to engaging 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.760 in a number of time saving measures over the years. 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.640 He did numerous columns which were often just recycled from 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.560 other columns or chunks of his books, he provided the 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.919 same list of skin moisturizing or metabolism boosting tips and 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:04.400 different magazines or online articles. Even so, his workload was enormous. 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:06.840 The Doctor Oz Show was instantly one of the most 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.080 popular shows on the planet, and Mehmet was contracted to 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:14.080 record one hundred and seventy five hour long episodes per year, 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.039 which is a fucking brutal work schedule on its own. 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.480 And the man continued to practice as a surgeon, albeit 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.440 at a reduced rate. The New York Times interviewer who 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.200 visited him in twenty ten seemed to find his behavior 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.680 and kind of his compulsive workoholism somewhat unsettling. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:30.320 M hm. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.560 I never saw him without a portable larder of baggies, 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.440 plastic containers and thermoses of food and drink, and all 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.919 of it, every crumb, every drop was healthful. Low fat 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:44.359 Greek yogurt mixed with brightly colored berries, spinach slaw, raw almonds, 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.679 raw walnuts soaked in water to amplify their nutritional benefit, 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.880 a dark green concoction of juices from vegetables including cucumber 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.000 at parsley. Roughly every forty five to sixty minutes, as 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:58.120 if on cue he would ingest something from his movable buffet, 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.839 but only a little bit. His poorsche assiduously regulated like 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.599 an intravelant, like an intravenous drip of nutrition. It was 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.600 the most efficient, joyless eating I have ever seen. 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:09.679 That is so weird. 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:11.760 I'm sorry, that's so weird. 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.680 It's so uncomfortable to just. 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.960 Like he's cool, dude, Like that's you know, he's living 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.240 life in the in the most drab way possible, just 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.760 trying to just trying to make TV shows and do 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:25.640 heart surgeries. 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.720 You know, Yeah, who has time to enjoy anything when you're. 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.560 Daddy joyless efficient evening eating. 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:35.400 He's like, I don't eat or drink anything that I 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:36.120 would enjoy. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.240 Yeah, you're welcome. That's just so unsettling. I mean, you 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:41.880 know what, I have known a couple of people in 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.280 my LIFs, all very skinny, who have told me like 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.720 I just don't really like eating, Like, yeah, there's some 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.440 foods that I prefer to others, but I just don't 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.960 really enjoy it one way or the other. Like I've 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:52.720 not like some of those people wound up on the 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.760 soilent thing, and I guess, like, I mean, yeah, fine, 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.840 it's like it's whatever, you know, it's your life. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.400 You want to hear lucky food, eat monkey food. But 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:03.040 don't you be surprised when I judge you? You know, yeah, 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:04.520 like it's, uh, that's weird. 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:08.760 At the start, the Doctor Oz Show was broadly inoffensive 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.320 from a medical perspective. He gave a lot of fairly 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.960 good common sense help advice, health advice, and provided a 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.240 lot of people with a friendly medical face willing to 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.880 explain things their doctors might not have the time or 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.560 the bedside manner to properly lay out. But Oz's fascination 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.480 with alternative medicine was present from the beginning, and as 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.920 time went on, he veered more and more in that direction, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.240 following both the topics that consistently drew the most viewers 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.800 and the topics that were easiest to put together, because 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.959 one hundred and seventy five hours of content a year 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:36.560 is a lot. 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.960 I mean really though, Like at some point you run 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:40.760 out of shit to talk about and you have to 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.040 just be like, uh uh, pendulums over the heart? 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:44.800 Do they work? 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.280 Yeah? Yeah, a punch of people in the dick? Could 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:53.520 it improve your bowels? Yeah? I mean, you know, we 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.480 we have to do. I don't know how much content 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.280 we have to do per year, fifty two weeks, two 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.600 hours a week. Yeah, we do like one hundred and 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.600 ten maybe, like with some of the episodes that go 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.000 over one hundred and twenty hours of content a year 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.000 for this show. And that's a lot. One hundred and 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.560 seventy five hours of video content. Is he like, you can't. 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:15.280 There's not that much good and also entertaining medical advice 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.360 that you could give in a year, let alone every 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:18.000 single year. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.480 I mean, just like there's only so many organs to 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.160 talk about, you know, after a while, you just got 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:24.920 to invent shit. 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.040 Yeah, And it's this thing. It's this kind of this 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:32.040 inevitable churn of capitalism leading us all into this this 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:38.120 specific kind of nonsense, because you can't not have content 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.240 legally you're contracted to. But also you have this whole 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.760 team of people whose ability to pay their rent, whose 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.720 ability to afford their homes, to keep their kids in 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.640 school is dependent upon you doing this show outside of 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.760 just the fact that he's rich. Like, he's fine, but 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.360 he like, it's this thing. You have to keep putting 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.400 out the thing, and you will never have enough meaningful 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.120 shit to put out to do it right. So you start, 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:05.720 in his case, doing nonsense about mediums and shit, and 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.079 in our case, doing episodes about Doctor Oz. 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.760 When you run out of bastards, eventually you just gotta 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:14.560 find one on TV. 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.880 We're not out of bastards. But like last week, I 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.320 spent thirty hours reading about the Protocols of the Elders 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.400 of Zion. I needed an off week. You know, God, 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.160 we all need off weeks. 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:29.160 That is one of my favorite, absolutely real documents to read. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.160 Yeah, that's why we brought you on. 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.200 Actually, yeah, I'm actually one of the Elders of Zion, 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.160 and I got some protocols for you. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:43.840 Yeah. Oh good times, So good time for an example 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.679 of the kind of nonsense creep I guess you'd call 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.920 it that. Like advanced upon his show. In March of 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:54.319 twenty twelve, Doctor Oz did a show titled Medium Versus Medicine. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.760 Oz's guest was a psychic who claimed she could communicate 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.560 with the dead. This was one of several, by this point, 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.680 probably dozens of episodes dedicated to people who claim to 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:07.240 talk to the dead. Energy healing was, you know, on 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:11.080 the fringe, certainly, but at least it was something that 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.400 when he started doing it, there were scientific studies saying 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.560 there might be something to it. Those studies have since 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:20.240 been to a large extent discredited. But when he started 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.120 doing that, there was some evidence it was a thing 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.400 to try. You know, he wasn't completely out of left field. 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.880 Yeah, people were at least testing it, alling. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.960 Episodes on mediums. Talking to the dead is well outside 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:34.640 of plausible deniability territory, right, Like you're just doing nonsense 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:35.360 at this point. 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.600 Yeah, you know, it depends how they're talking. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.600 If you go up to a dead body and start 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.200 talking to it, you are technically talking to the dead. 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.200 Now, that would be a fun show. Doctor Oz breaks 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:47.960 into morgues and talks to corpses. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.680 Yeah, hey, how'd you die? 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:55.840 Just just having his bodyguards mace police officers rolling into 0:11:55.840 --> 0:12:00.440 a crime scene and be liked to this, had this 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:00.920 good out. 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.240 Are you okay? 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:09.960 I am a doctor. Do you want some almonds? 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.120 They're soaked in water for more nutrition? 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:24.640 So yeah, he had. Yeah. Doctor Oz had among his 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:29.600 psychic guests famous grifter King John Edwards on his show 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:34.000 Not the Politician, The Talks to Dead TV show guy. 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:34.720 Yeah. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.000 Yeah, And he praised the reading that he received from 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.120 John Edwards saying, quote, let me tell you what changed 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.640 my life. I've learned in my career that there are 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.280 times when science just hasn't caught up with things, and 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:50.320 I think this may be one of them, which is 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.000 almost exactly what he said about John of God, the 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:54.480 guy who raped hundreds of people. 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.000 Yeah, that's how you know, like to stay far away 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.800 from anything when he's just like, man, this is uh, 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.640 this is a brand new, groundbreaking territory and you can 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:05.360 go home, all right. 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.040 Guys, It's a rapist ron and it's one of those things. 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.280 Part of how he's like the intelligent way to frame 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:11.880 this is you start with the truth thing, which is 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.160 there things science can't explain. One of those things is 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.880 the nature of consciousness and what happens to it after 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.160 you know, vital sciences. We don't know. There is not 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.559 an objective answer to that. But it going this way 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.800 is kind of like being like, yeah, you know, we 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.559 can't explain like the slit box experiment. Like there's a 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.320 bunch of shit in physics. I don't know, I'm not 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.400 a science guy, but like, you know, particle and wave shit, 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:35.400 you can't explain that. 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.719 So much shit you can't explain magnets. 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:39.280 Yeah, how do they work? 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:40.120 How do they work? 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.680 It's this, it's this jump from Yes, there are things 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.400 we can't explain to. So let's listen to this man 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:52.040 talk to the dead. Millions of people gather around, gather around. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:57.479 He's going to channel you're dead on Yes. Maybe not 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.000 not a reasonable way to take a reasonable starting point. 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.640 Yeah, especially when you're a doctor on TV. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:05.480 Yeah. 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.000 And I want to quote from a write up I 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:10.880 found in the Journal of the Missouri State Medical Association. Quote. 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:16.160 During another show, Oz interviewed doctor Mossarafali, a miracle healer 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.760 to Sylvester Stallone, Prince Charles of England, and others, regarding 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:23.520 his use of iritology. According to the whitely debunked bizarre belief, 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.680 each part of the iris corresponds to a specific area 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.960 of the body, and a person's state of health could 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:32.720 be diagnosed by examining particular regions of the iris. After 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:37.000 expressing his amazement at doctor Ali's diagnostic abilities, Ah stated, 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.040 I want to applaud doctor mossaraf Ali because these are 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.600 ancient traditions and they have been around for centuries. So 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.400 who am I to hasmissed them. 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.760 Other than a very well educated man, a. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:52.760 Doctor, a doctor memet, Prince Charles. 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.160 Yeah, it's like, you know, there's a lot of cultures 0:14:56.160 --> 0:15:00.360 who say that you should remove the clitorists surgically. It's 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:04.520 it's it's it's healthier and it stops dangerous masturbation. It's ancient. 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.520 Who are we to say this is a bad idea? 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.360 Who are any of us to say anything wrong? 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:11.600 Oh? 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.840 My god, I love it too, just like Yeah, I 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.520 was amazed by his ability to look into my eyes 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:18.960 and diagnose that my dad will never love me. 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.640 How did he know? How did you know? 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.840 It does bring me joy that Prince Charles got sucked with. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:27.680 Oh I wonder what his eyes said. 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:29.520 It's funny he said the same thing. It said, your 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.520 dad will never love you. That's all he does. He 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.360 goes to famous people and he goes your dad will 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.160 never love you. Your dad will never love you. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:40.000 You so much, there's this. One of the big aspects 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.000 of this guy's success and of the success of the 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:47.600 things he pushes is Orientalism, right, like this idea of 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:51.200 like the forbidden and strange and wondrous and magical East 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.880 and all of the Yeah, we don't understand all of 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:58.920 these like, oh, India is so mysterious. What if you 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:02.080 were to say, like, well, for centuries, tobacco companies have 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:06.760 said that tobacco can cure like different run ailments. Who 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.119 are we to dismiss these ancient traditions? 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.760 Yeah, the Q zone could be real. 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:18.200 Exactly, like it stops people from stuttering, do more cocaine? 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.680 I mean, yeah, just the idea. 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.000 And I've always found this in general to be the 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:28.560 biggest load of Horseshit is when people have said, you know, 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.200 this is like an ancient healing technique, and it's like, 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:35.040 you mean like bleeding people with leeches, you know, you 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.120 mean like cutting off someone's leg because he got a 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.720 fucking a small infection on his toe. 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:45.960 Ancient. It's this thing with doctor Oz, Like it's one 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:47.960 thing if you're just like traveling to another part of 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.360 the world, you see some sort of medical or treatment 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.240 you've never seen before, and you're like, well, am I 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.080 who am I to say anything about? Right? Like, I 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.600 don't know, doctor Oz is a doctor on TV talking 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.600 to millions. You're literally the person who should be saying 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.200 something about the legitimacy of this, right. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:05.880 Yeah, Yeah, you're the guy. 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.760 You're the person you are, in fact, the person who 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:10.320 should say something about. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.640 Oh am I you are you? He is the most 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:14.000 famous doctor in America. 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.240 Yeah, and that's what that That write up in the 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:20.119 Journal of the Missouri State Medical Association notes, quote who 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.680 doctor us is a trained clinician and scientist, someone who 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.280 can read a scientific article with a critical eye. He 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.199 is someone who can filter out the noise of the 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.600 placebo effect or discern the simple carnival tricks of his charlatan. 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.119 The problem is that most people in his audience cannot. 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:39.320 Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's he has a literal responsibility 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.240 to tell people that these guys are full of shit. 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.720 But he also has a responsibility to his show sponsors 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.760 and to the network for ratings. 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:50.920 You know, you know who. 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.280 Else has a responsibility to the show sponsors. 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:57.600 Wow, that's got to be the first time. 0:17:58.240 --> 0:17:59.800 That's got to be the first time it's ever. 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:02.720 So fucking good. 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:03.720 So good. 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:14.200 Anyway, here's products Ah, we're back talking about doctor Oz 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.400 having just a great time. So obviously, the fact that 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.440 doctor Oz, I mean, probably the fact that most of 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:24.200 his audience couldn't discern whether or not any of these 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.600 nonsense treatments were real is a big part of why 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.600 the Doctor Oz Show became an overnight success. Yeah, before 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.600 very long, it was being watched by four million viewers 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:37.080 every single day. Over the next half decade or so, 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.480 he won two Emmys. His guest list included First Lady 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.199 Michelle Obama, who loved Doctor Oz for his focus on 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.000 healthy diets for children and in general, his crusade to 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.880 get Americans to lose weight. Doctor Oz claimed through Medicine 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.680 through Math that I cannot verify that his show inspired 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:58.679 Americans to lose three million cumulative pounds per year. I 0:18:58.680 --> 0:18:59.000 don't know. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:03.200 Maybe yeah, they based that on what, like did people 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:05.720 call in to say how many pounds they've lost to 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:06.160 the show. 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:08.760 I mean, I'm sure he found some way to like 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.520 make the claim or whatever. But it's it's very it's 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:14.560 I don't know. Maybe it is one of the things 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:16.440 that he does that is we'll talk about that. There's 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.520 problems with some of the diet tips he gives people, 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:23.920 actually significant ones, but telling like inspiring people to lose 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:27.639 weight is not usually bad for their health, although it 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.600 can be. Yeah, yeah, sometimes people take it too far 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.440 and it depends on health problems. 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:32.679 You know. 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.880 It's a mixed bag I guess we'd say, yeah, but 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.359 the other stuff isn't a mixed bag, so I guess 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:44.840 we'll call that his his great success. So yeah, it 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:46.919 is good. I will say it is unequivocally good that 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.960 doctor Oz continually pressed his audience of millions of people 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.679 to eat more fruits and vegetables, fruits and vegetables, to 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.800 get better sleep, to exercise regularly, and to get their 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.560 flu vaccinations. That's all rat right, Yeah, but shit, I 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.040 could have to you give me, you know, you don't 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:02.240 have to. 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:03.800 You don't have to be a doctor to say that 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.639