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Speaker 1: Here we go, Wednesday, Hour two, All fired Up Joe

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Speaker 1: Klatten five minutes. So Podres can still beat the Cubs

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Speaker 1: played yesterday. Cubs win Game one. Podres have to play

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Speaker 1: a certain way. Outside of Manny Machado and Tatoos, they

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Speaker 1: don't have any home run. Cubs have six guys who

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Speaker 1: can hit over twenty hit over twenty home runs. So

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Speaker 1: the bottom line is, there is a way the Podreys

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Speaker 1: have to play. It's got to be moving runners. They

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Speaker 1: led baseball in sacrifices. That's what they do. They win three, two,

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Speaker 1: four to three. Occasionally Machado stands up or tat teeth.

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Speaker 1: They don't hit home runs, but they lead baseball and

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Speaker 1: sacrifice hits. And they have a great bullpen. So but

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Speaker 1: that bullpen's much more effective when you lead in the

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Speaker 1: eighth inning of ninth inning. And so yesterday I'm watching

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Speaker 1: this series, I'm like, oh, Podreys can win this series,

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Speaker 1: but they don't. They don't have the margins. They have

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Speaker 1: to win a certain way, and they couldn't get the hits.

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Speaker 1: Their best three hitters went oh for eleven and the

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Speaker 1: Cubs only had six hits, but two were jacks, and

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Speaker 1: that's really the difference here. There's stylistically, San Diego only

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Speaker 1: got one hit with runners in scoring position. They had

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Speaker 1: seven opportunities, but they couldn't get the hits. So they

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Speaker 1: just don't have very wide margins. They have to hit

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Speaker 1: with runners in scoring position. They got to get base knocks.

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Speaker 1: That's what they do, because they're not getting they're not

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Speaker 1: getting three and four run innings on the deep ball.

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Speaker 1: So the reality of this series is the games. I

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Speaker 1: think the games will be really close. But yesterday is

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Speaker 1: kind of how the Podreys are built to play. Move

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Speaker 1: runners over, keep the score low, get a lead, sixth inning,

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Speaker 1: go to the bullpen. Mike Shilt is the manager. Here

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Speaker 1: his thoughts on rebounding in Game two.

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Speaker 2: We know where's you know what we're looking at?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: So, I mean, you know, we got to take care

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Speaker 4: of business tomorrow to set ourselves so up to take

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Speaker 4: care of business on Thursday, and we expect to do that.

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Speaker 4: And in our clubhouse right now, it's disappointed. But nobody's hit,

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Speaker 4: nobody's hanging their head. You know, this is a good

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Speaker 4: club that knows what they're capable of doing and is

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Speaker 4: eager to show up to go compete tomorrow. Do you

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Speaker 4: want to get the ball and we'll take it from there.

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Speaker 1: The Yankees loss is different, but somewhat similar is that

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Speaker 1: they have a way to win two. It's the opposite

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Speaker 1: of the podreis. They don't sacrifice. It's all power. Having

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Speaker 1: more money doesn't mean you don't have problems, problems, it's

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Speaker 1: just different problems. The Yankees don't do a ton well,

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Speaker 1: especially with Garrett Cole injured early in the season. Out

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Speaker 1: the bullpen's not very good. They don't sacrifice, you know,

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Speaker 1: runners in scoring position, we need a single. That's not

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Speaker 1: what the Yankees do. They're the opposite of the Podres.

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Speaker 1: It's all power, and I mean, when's the last time

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Speaker 1: the Yankees overachieved. That's a fair I mean. Brian Cashman

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Speaker 1: twenty eight years, Randy Levine twenty five years, Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers Aaron Boone, eight years. They're they're really patient.

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Speaker 1: I respect that. But the Kansas City Royals, low revenue,

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Speaker 1: often in the last fifteen years, twenty years. So Yankee

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Speaker 1: fans have had enough. I mean yesterday is a prime

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Speaker 1: example of the Yankees. They struck out thirteen times. Well,

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Speaker 1: of course they did. They're the Yankees. They strike out

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Speaker 1: have more home runs than the Podreys. Rockies won forty

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Speaker 1: Potterys and Yankees are the opposite that I think they've got.

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Speaker 5: Goldie getting us, Golling, Judgie smoking the ball, belly doing

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Speaker 5: didn't get any results tonight, but I thought, I thought

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Speaker 1: That that's not going to play well in uh sports

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee is the most complete team in baseball. I think

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Speaker 1: that's inarguable. Dodgers' bullpen yank yikes, Yankee strikeouts, bullpen yikes.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati doesn't you know, they don't have They're gonna get

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Speaker 1: Joel Klatt joining US live the voice of college football

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Speaker 1: at Fox. He's got Wisconsin at Michigan Saturday, so I'm watching.

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Speaker 1: We went into a season there were quarterbacks we all

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Speaker 1: like Drew Aller, Kate Kludnik, we all were like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: these guys are really good. And I had said the

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Speaker 1: interesting guy about two weeks ago, I said, Dante More

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Speaker 1: throws the ball at a pro quarterback, and he's got movement.

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Speaker 1: His ability to go to Penn State with that crowd

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Speaker 1: and to be stoic and unbothered and have that temperament

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Speaker 1: like it was a little jaw dropping. And Tod juxtapose

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Speaker 1: him next to Aller, who doesn't have the feel to me,

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the feel for the game that Dante Moore does.

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Speaker 1: It just feels like Dante Moore. He just some guys

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Speaker 1: just it's just kind of innate. They just got a

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Speaker 1: feel for it. I don't know. I watched him and

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Speaker 1: I said yesterday, if I had a number one pick,

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Speaker 1: I think I'd picked Dante Moore. I found that. I

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Speaker 1: think he's that good, is he not? I think at

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Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy, you know, And I do think he's

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Speaker 1: that good. And you know, you just describe it as

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Speaker 1: He was calm in the pocket was his face was calm,

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Speaker 1: And it didn't matter the situation, It didn't matter if

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Speaker 1: with the crowd, noise, all those fourth downs that they

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Speaker 1: matter if he got hit, if he was having to

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Speaker 1: I did. A sudden is bearing down on him unblocked,

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Speaker 1: He's got great confidence in himself everything around him. When

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Speaker 1: I talk with Will Stein, their offensive coordinator, you know,

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Speaker 1: he tells me that Dante prepares as well or better

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Speaker 1: sky's the limit for Dante Moore, not only in college

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Speaker 1: football here at Oregon in this season, but ultimately, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. So I've defended James Franklin. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he's losing to Harbonughn Michigan in Georgia. Give me a break,

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Speaker 1: James Franklin's losing to the right. People that said that

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Speaker 1: you've got to come down to two conclusions, Colin. Number

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Speaker 1: one is this offensive system that they're trying to run

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Speaker 1: yet that's the offense that they try to run. I

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Speaker 1: lost to Oregon in the regular season in Eugene, and

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Speaker 1: they changed their defense because of it. Why did they

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Speaker 1: They wanted to get Caleb Downs more involved in the action,

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Speaker 1: to better suit their quarterback. And then the last thing

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Speaker 1: got to do everything perfect. So James needs to be

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Speaker 1: selling last year's team just a little bit short. That

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Speaker 1: Rvel Reese. We should hear scouts talk about Rvel Reeves.

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Speaker 1: This guy is a game wrecker at the linebacker position,

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Speaker 1: Cayden Curry had three sacks last week, and that's what

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Speaker 1: I turned to Gus right after the touch and I said,

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Speaker 1: giving nuance. That's right. It was great to see you Saturday,

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Speaker 1: by the way, it was you know what I was.

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Speaker 1: Somebody said, do you want to go see Gus and

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Speaker 1: Joel Klatt and I said, you know what, professionals don't

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Speaker 1: want to get in the way of the production. And

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Speaker 1: I did the pregame show, and I said, with the

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Speaker 1: barstool guys, and I said, that's fun. I'll go downstairs

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Speaker 1: and you know, do that stuff. But a couple pros

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Speaker 1: up there, I didn't want to get in the way.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, sacred ground up there in the booths.

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Speaker 1: We don't just let anybody in. That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have the passes. I wasn't equipped with the

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Speaker 1: accurate passes that get you in. Joel Klatt Boyce college football,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez Next hour has got all sorts of great stuff,

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Speaker 1: and Jmac this town. Yesterday I took the train home.

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Speaker 1: There's nobody on it. Cubs game.

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Speaker 6: Hey, listen, La is rolling out the red carpet for you.

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to get dust Dodgers tickets for the next

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Speaker 7: round so you and I can hang a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know you.

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Speaker 1: I know people in New York think New York is

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Speaker 1: the best baseball city. The Dodgers outdraw both last time

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Speaker 1: I checked, the Dodgers drew like seven thousand more a

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Speaker 1: game than New York, the Yankees, and remember Dodger stadiums

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Speaker 1: not easy to get in and out of. Basically, I'm

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Speaker 1: not I'm saying it's a great state. It's one of

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Speaker 1: the oldest stadiums, so they're not selling new cool stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's an old stadium. It is hard to get into.

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Speaker 1: Traffic in LA stinks, and they are listening. I always

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Speaker 1: thought it was a Laker town, and then you moved

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Speaker 1: to Los Angeles. It's a Dodger town.

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Speaker 6: I would slightly say Dodgers over Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, it's And then the other thing is

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Speaker 1: they on the division to get It's so funny. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: lamenting the Dodgers. Oh my, get what do they win

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Speaker 1: ninety three games? If they would have blown just half

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Speaker 1: the saves? Yeah, just think about this, thirteen saves, they

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Speaker 1: would have won one hundred and six games. What's seven? No, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm bad with math.

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Speaker 6: It's a little early for math. Yes, yes, it is, folks.

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Speaker 1: You were busy last night, or you went to bed

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Speaker 1: in the midwest of the East Coast and you did

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Speaker 1: not see Shoho Tani's sixth inning second home run. Here

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Speaker 1: it is M five seventy in La on a one

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Speaker 1: to one.

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Speaker 8: Otani HiT's a towering ball deep rightfield. He flips the

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Speaker 8: bad bad watches it fly three quarters of the way

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Speaker 8: up the pavilions. Just a minimouth blast for his second

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Speaker 8: home run, and the Dodgers are pouring it on in

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Speaker 8: Game one.

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Speaker 1: I remember a couple of years ago and I said,

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Speaker 1: he's better than Babe Ruth. Whoa, folks, he is so

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Speaker 1: much better than Babe Ruth. Steals ace power average. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's just nothing like him. I remember when Michael Jordan

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Speaker 1: was in the league and I can remember watching it

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Speaker 1: on the couch with a friend against the Phoenix Suns

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Speaker 1: in the finals, and I'm thinking, Barkley maybe the second

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Speaker 1: best player in the game, and Barkley had a great

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Speaker 1: series and Barkley wasn't close. Like that's what I feel like,

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Speaker 1: Like Gretzky, it sounds ridiculous to argue Gretzky's not the

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Speaker 1: best hockey player of all time, Like it's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: And it's like Otawani is notches above Freddie Freeman and

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Speaker 1: Mookie Bepps. Who are you know, Hall of Fame level players.

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Speaker 1: He's just an all timer and we all got to

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Speaker 1: watch him. Jmack with the News.

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Speaker 2: No news, this is the herd line news.

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Speaker 6: You know who else we get to watch? It's the

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Speaker 6: superstar mister George Pickens.

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Speaker 7: How about that game on Sunday Night football Colin against

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Speaker 7: the Packers. I mean, he was phenomenal, two touchdowns and listen,

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Speaker 7: I'm not calling.

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Speaker 6: Him a superstar. Jerry Jones is are you ready for this?

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Speaker 7: Listen to what Jerry Jones said about acquiring Pickens and

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Speaker 7: his potential future.

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Speaker 3: An exemplary teammate, he is exemplary in his work preparation.

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Speaker 3: I'm proud to tell you that we've got some outstanding

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Speaker 3: structure in our cap space that will allow us to

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Speaker 3: do a lot of things that I didn't think when

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Speaker 3: we finished this time last year that we might have

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Speaker 3: the room to do some of these things we're talking

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Speaker 3: about doing. We paid a prize for it. We had

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Speaker 3: to not sign some players that we might have thought

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Speaker 3: we should, our fans might have thought ought to be signed.

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Speaker 3: On the other hand, we can do it now.

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Speaker 7: So if you couldn't clearly hear that through that Texas

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Speaker 7: drawl or the Southern drawl, I'll say he essentially was saying, Hey,

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Speaker 7: if we had signed Michael, we couldn't get Pickens.

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Speaker 6: But now we didn't sign Micah, so we could afford Pickens.

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Speaker 1: That's right, And I said, he's going to be paid Pickens.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay is going to win this trade, just like

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Speaker 1: just like the Heat did when they got shocked. When

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Speaker 1: the Lakers had to make a choice, they knew that

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Speaker 1: Kobe long term, better shape order, practice player, more committed.

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Speaker 1: But they knew for the first couple of years because

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Speaker 1: Shaq was going to a very good, ready to win

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Speaker 1: a title team. They were going to have to eat

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Speaker 1: a dirt sandwich in the trade and get crushed. But

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Speaker 1: the Lakers were right. This is one of those where

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Speaker 1: Dallas is right doing this, but they're going to get

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Speaker 1: crushed because Green Bay's really good. They now have four

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Speaker 1: first round picks in the next two years and do

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Speaker 1: not need a quarterback, do you? Everybody like Cleveland has two,

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Speaker 1: they need a quarterback. Rams have two. They'll draft a

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Speaker 1: quarterback to have two first round picks. That means, let's

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Speaker 1: say the Cowboys have the number eight draft spot. Somebody's

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Speaker 1: going to go up and off from a third and

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Speaker 1: a fourth or a third and a fifth and they

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Speaker 1: can go okay, and then they can do that again

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Speaker 1: when they move back to twelve, and they can do

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Speaker 1: it again. Dallas could literally get six picks with one

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Speaker 1: of their first round picks. Because if you go into

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Speaker 1: a draft next year. I wrote it down the other

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Speaker 1: day the teams that need a quarterback next year, and

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Speaker 1: I wrote down eight teams. Now I'm counting the Rams

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Speaker 1: who don't need one today but they will in a

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Speaker 1: couple of years. And Arizona, I think would consider if

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Speaker 1: the right one fell to them. So I counted those two.

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Speaker 1: You start doing Jets and Cleveland. I didn't count the

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Speaker 1: Giants Jackson Dart. I think they'll go with him. I

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Speaker 1: started counting teams once again. Six teams, maybe eight could

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Speaker 1: put themselves in a position to draft a quarterback. And

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna have a top ten pick, and

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Speaker 1: maybe one of the only teams. Go look at the

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Speaker 1: standings right now, one of the only teams that'll be

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Speaker 1: a top ten pick that doesn't need a quarterback is Dallas.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna work out so well for them. So

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Speaker 1: time out, you had me and lost me. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: a couple things. First of all, on this quarterback thing,

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Speaker 1: we talk about Glass Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I look at the last five seasons of Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 7: He's been missing a lot of games with injuries. So

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Speaker 7: and he's older than Burrow, He's thirty two, So kNN,

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Speaker 7: I don't know that he's The Cowboys don't need a quarterback.

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Speaker 7: They got to think about a backup at some point.

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Speaker 7: That being said, this idea that becoming the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 7: is a good thing. They're essentially Higgins Chase and Burrow.

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Speaker 7: That's what they will be that Cowboys inoffs.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys have better personnel than Cincinnati, and Burrow has

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Speaker 1: been hurt multiple times, and Cincinnati's got infrastructure issues, a

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Speaker 1: tiny scouting department.

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Speaker 7: Dallas's defense cannot stop anybody Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Dallas is a franchise that consistently, when they have it,

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Speaker 1: will spend money. Spend it on DAK, spend it on CD,

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Speaker 1: spending on Tyron Smith, spending on Zach Martin. They keep

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Speaker 1: their stars. Here's one they didn't because they got trapped

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Speaker 1: the last two years. They had no flexibility. They couldn't

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Speaker 1: even spend eight million dollars on Derreck Henry. So Jerry's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm a dealmaker. I can't make any deals and so

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Speaker 1: I do not consider, if it's a word, the frugality

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati in Dallas. When Dallas has stars, they pay him,

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Speaker 1: and they often pay him early, not all the time,

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Speaker 1: but they have Jalen Smith's a linebacker they shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: paid and they Cincinnati never does that.

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Speaker 7: One final note, we know Pickens is in college he

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Speaker 7: had some issues and in Pittsburgh, Colin You remember when

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Speaker 7: Mark Sanchez off Air told us when he was with

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Speaker 7: the Jets, there was a receiver who was a bit of.

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Speaker 6: A problem, who was playing his butt off for a contract.

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Speaker 6: The second he.

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Speaker 7: Got it, he starts showing up late was an issue.

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna say the receiver's name. Jets fans know

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Speaker 7: who I'm talking about, Colin that there is that risk

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Speaker 7: with Pickens. We know he's playing for a contract, he

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Speaker 7: has had issues in the.

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Speaker 6: Pennot he is a high risk, high reward play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not paying. Some players are leases,

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Speaker 1: some some relationships are dating. Pickens has been great this year.

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Speaker 1: But at wide receiver, Ceedee Lamb's a star. I'll go

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Speaker 1: draft other wide receivers.

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, let's.

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Speaker 7: Move on to the Philadelphia Eagles. Colin, Now this is

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Speaker 7: interesting Tush push. Eagles faced the Broncos this week. Numbers

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Speaker 7: coming down, by the way. Sean Payton was asked about

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Speaker 7: the quote unquote controversial Tush Push.

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Speaker 6: Here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 9: I was one that stood up in favor of the

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Speaker 9: reason I stood up in favor of is It's pretty simple.

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Speaker 9: If the powers to be don't want it for aesthetic

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Speaker 9: reasons or competitive reasons, you know, or it's hard to officiate,

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Speaker 9: et cetera. But I've been involved in those meetings for

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Speaker 9: a long time, and when all of a sudden health

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Speaker 9: and safety was pulled into that which might be the

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Speaker 9: safest playing football, my bull nose kind of went up.

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Speaker 6: Are you reading anything?

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Speaker 7: Is this gamesmanship on his part ahead of the toot bush?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 7: So, by the way, Philly had that wrinkle with the

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Speaker 7: Saquon Barkley handoff out of the toot bush, and they

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Speaker 7: had a couple of Dallas Goddard little shovel passes. Listen,

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Speaker 7: they're being really smart with this. That being said, Colin,

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Speaker 7: very interesting game. This was four and a half. It's

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Speaker 7: down to three and a half. We're waiting on word

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Speaker 7: on Jalen Carter.

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Speaker 3: M r dude.

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Speaker 1: I already tell about it yesterday on a Tuesday, and

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Speaker 1: I had Denver plus the point oh man, okay, I

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Speaker 1: was the headlines crew was already asked for Friday's picks.

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Speaker 6: This game was will be involved on Friday.

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Speaker 7: Final STORYCM, Let's go to the Seattle Seahawks, your team.

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Speaker 7: I kind of scoffed at you when you said they

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Speaker 7: were in the Super Bowl bubble. Hey man, they host

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Speaker 7: Baker Mayfield in week five. Now, interesting issue here is

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Speaker 7: the Mariners are hosting the Divisional Round at T Mobile

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Speaker 7: Park across the street from Womenfield. The NFL game could

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Speaker 7: be delayed one to two hours, and Mike McDonald addressed

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Speaker 7: that situation Monday.

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Speaker 10: From from what I understand, it's not that big of

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Speaker 10: a move, so we would just adjust our morning schedule accordingly, Reuly,

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Speaker 10: no big deal. It's actually it's actually kind of great

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Speaker 10: that we're going to be forced to move. I think

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Speaker 10: that's uh, it's awesome for our city and it's gonna

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Speaker 10: be a really exciting Sunday.

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Speaker 1: You know what they call Seattle Winnersville, nothing but winter?

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Speaker 6: Did you just make that up?

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Speaker 7: So it's interesting because the four pm slate has some

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Speaker 7: good games on Sunday four pm for the East Coast.

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Speaker 7: Obviously Tampa, Seattle's good, Tennessee, Arizona's a dud, but Jaden

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Speaker 7: Daniel's returning versus the Chargers. One of us here might

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Speaker 7: be at that game, and then Lions Bengals Jake Brown

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Speaker 7: and getting smashed by the Lions will be fun. I'm

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Speaker 7: embarrassed that I was scoffing at you for liking Seattle

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Speaker 7: in the preseason Colin. Sometimes you know, the squirrel gets

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Speaker 7: a nut every once in a while, and I think

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Speaker 7: you're onto something. I like Seattle against Baker this weekend.

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Speaker 1: So on, boy, I'm gonna beat Insufferable. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: insufferable if Darnold wins that puppy.

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Speaker 6: And the Mariners get to the world too, that's not happening.

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Speaker 1: I have Brewers beating the Mariners in.

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Speaker 6: Six Yankees are going They're fine, all right.

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Speaker 1: J Mack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: Herd Line news.

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Speaker 1: Apparently we have a bizarro Shador Sanders update.

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Speaker 2: Next, be sure to catch live editions of The Herd

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Speaker 2: weekdays in noon eastern non a em Pacific on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app Big.

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Speaker 7: Noon is back in ann Arbor in Michigan's own El

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Speaker 7: Presidente is leading the charge.

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Speaker 6: The pregame party starts at ten am Eastern.

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Speaker 7: Then it's QB, Bryce Underwood and the Wolverine's going head

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Speaker 7: to head with Wisconsin at noon Big Noon Saturday only

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Speaker 7: on SOX.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so, uh this is I just got this footage,

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Speaker 1: so before we run it, uh, let me set it up.

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Speaker 1: It'll be tough for the radio audience to understand this

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Speaker 1: or de cipher it. This is kind of for TV,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I got to show the video. Dylan

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Speaker 1: Gabriel is going to start for the Browns a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but Flacco is being benched but still remains number two,

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Speaker 1: Schnor Sanders. Even if Dylan Gabriel falters, they'll just bring

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Speaker 1: Flacco back in. So Shadur is now three and so

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Speaker 1: he was asked multiple questions by the Cleveland media today.

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Speaker 1: He had a smile. I've said before he seemed like

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Speaker 1: a nice kid. He had a smile. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's always the most mature, but he smiled. But he

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Speaker 1: mouthed the words without actually speaking. It is odd. So

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Speaker 1: here's what it looks like.

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Speaker 2: Locally.

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Speaker 1: Cast A third question, how much?

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Speaker 7: How much has Joe been important to both of you

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Speaker 7: and Dylan in terms of your guys like development to.

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Speaker 1: This point, from prime to I'm to mine time. Apparently

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Speaker 1: that's a legendary response. So, uh, it's something I don't

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Speaker 1: know what to make of it. You know, I got

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Speaker 1: gray hair, he's in his early twelve. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to pick on people.

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Speaker 6: Wait a minute, Wait a minute. What just happened. I've

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Speaker 6: never seen that in my life. I don't even know

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Speaker 6: was he is he doing a skit? Like what?

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Speaker 1: He's got a mother and a father. I wish them

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Speaker 1: the best. I mean, we haven't hard enough on JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 6: You know, do we have a lip reader on staff?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 6: What's he saying?

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Speaker 1: You know what? He's smiling?

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Speaker 6: But what is he This is? This is the NFL.

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Speaker 6: You're a professional athlete.

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Speaker 7: This is this is not like Juco where you could

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Speaker 7: joke around with this stuff.

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Speaker 6: What is he saying?

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Speaker 1: Well, he's mouthing it, He's not saying it. I think

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Speaker 1: the point is he doesn't want to be quoted, maybe

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Speaker 1: by newspaper people, so he's mouth he's mouthing it without

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Speaker 1: saying okay, Colin it on TV.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: I know, we're in the communication business, he's in the

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Speaker 1: football playing business. So I think he's just I you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I don't want to pick

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Speaker 1: on him. I don't even understand what he's doing.

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Speaker 7: But whatever he's doing is going to be a big

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Speaker 7: story today. It's like Wednesday. It's not a lot happening

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Speaker 7: in the NFL. This is going to be everywhere he's

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Speaker 7: going to get three million views on Instagram, Twitter, all

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Speaker 7: that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Again, the NFL doesn't care about influencers, Thank god Instagram does.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it is what it is. It's listen.

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Speaker 1: I covered this story like crazy, I literally during the

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Speaker 1: summer because I was so interested in it. And I've

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Speaker 1: said this before. The audience drives the bus. I don't

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Speaker 1: what you're interested. And I talked about so I was

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Speaker 1: fascinated by because I thought he was a good quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He dropped to the fifth round, he tore it up

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Speaker 1: in OTA's and he literally was like they had him

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Speaker 1: for strength. So I would go every day and just say,

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Speaker 1: is this thing hitting? Is it tracking? And it was.

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Speaker 1: Everybody else was fascinated. Now it's more like sad, weird,

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Speaker 1: Odd and I and that, like the JJ McCarthy situation,

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Speaker 1: similarly to me, is getting to a point where I

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Speaker 1: didn't buy into him. I said it, I stated it.

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Speaker 1: I always want to stay in my opinion on JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I buy Caleb, I buy Drake, I buy Nicks,

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Speaker 1: I buy Pennix. I thought it was a great quarterback

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Speaker 1: draft class. The one guy I pushed back home was

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. I think I've been proven right, but it

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Speaker 1: will get to some point. If it's a confidence above

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Speaker 1: the shoulder issue with JJ McCarthy, then I don't feel

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Speaker 1: comfortable talking about it. This thing's getting odd and weird.

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Speaker 1: It's gone from compelling to like crazy, whatever that is.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel it's just not working, you know,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it works somewhere else, But I believe it

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Speaker 1: or not, I don't wake up in the morning like

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Speaker 1: I used to never criticize college kids, and now they

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Speaker 1: get paid. They're professionals. Okay, you're like, if you come

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Speaker 1: intern for Fox and we pay you, I'm gonna yell

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Speaker 1: at you. If you're an unpaid intern, I'm not going to.

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Speaker 1: But if you got paid as an intern and you

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Speaker 1: screwed up, i'd bark at you. You're a professional. That's

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Speaker 1: how I view it. So I never like to criticize

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Speaker 1: college kids. Now you've got quarterbacks making more than offensive coordinators.

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Speaker 1: It's a different ballgame. So he's a professional athlete. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna criticize professional athletes. But there does come

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Speaker 1: a point when it's like it pivots to compelling to sad. Sad,

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Speaker 1: and I just don't feel like I just don't feel

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Speaker 1: like I want to be part of that. Well, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing.

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Speaker 7: Somebody had to tell him, Hey, hey, why don't you

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Speaker 7: try this. You could screw with the media and it

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Speaker 7: would be funny like that. That's terrible advice.

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Speaker 1: Well whatever, but that maybe that's it. You know, this

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Speaker 1: is the last time I'm gonna run it. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: got a smile on his face. He's joking. You know,

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Speaker 1: he is very he is. I said when he came

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Speaker 1: into the league, I said one of the things I

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Speaker 1: didn't love about him he was kind of silly. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a nice kid. He grew up with some money, comfortable.

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Speaker 1: He's a little bit silly for my taste. I didn't

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Speaker 1: like Drew Locke. I thought he was silly. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: I thought Cam was distracted. And I've said this before.

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Speaker 1: Jameis Wins a little silly, Jameis Winston, Baker, Mayfield, you know,

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Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel, that's me.

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Speaker 6: Sure is the word.

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Speaker 1: I'm always pushed back. I think maturity matters a lot.

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Speaker 1: I pushed back on Johnny, I pushed back on Baker,

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Speaker 1: I pushed back on Jamish and I thought he but

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Speaker 1: I just thought he was. He threw an accurate football

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Speaker 1: and moved well.

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Speaker 7: But you know what, is it possible he lost his

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Speaker 7: voice and he could that's.

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Speaker 1: A great Yes, maybe there's a cold going around Cleveland. Yeah, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean he couldn't audible, so I mean he couldn't

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Speaker 1: play anyone. It's crazy. God, yesterday was fun with all

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Speaker 1: the baseball playoffs. It was really fun in Chicago. I

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Speaker 1: took the train. It was empty, you know, and it

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Speaker 1: goes past Wrigleyville. I think one of the things that's

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Speaker 1: cool about the baseball playoffs. You got small market Milwaukee,

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Speaker 1: I think's the best team in the sport. I mean

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Speaker 1: they what do they go six and zero against the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers or something. This year you go big market New

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Speaker 1: York and Los Angeles that can't get people out late

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Speaker 1: in games and their Yankees are uneven. The Dodgers just

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Speaker 1: have a bad bullpen. San Diego has stars but has

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Speaker 1: to win by sacrificing and moving runners and old school baseball.

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Speaker 1: And then you've got the Jays and the Brewers are

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Speaker 1: lead the league in singles. Hey, Yankees Dodgers are home runs.

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Speaker 1: Home runs cost a lot more than singles hitters. But

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Speaker 1: there's so many different ways to win, in so many

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Speaker 1: compelling stories, and I got to give it. I got

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Speaker 1: to give credit to baseball, the bigger bases, defensive shift,

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Speaker 1: universal DH, speed, the game up, Rob Manfred. Finally we

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Speaker 1: got a baseball commissioner who pushed back on traditionalists and

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Speaker 1: that there's a way to play the game. Baseball is fast,

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Speaker 1: it's fun, there's drama, there's action, small markets, big markets.

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Speaker 1: This is a really good time for baseball. The games

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Speaker 1: move really quickly, and yesterday was a great day. All right.

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Speaker 1: Week five of the NFL. Mark stantez as Owas brings tape.

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Speaker 1: He'll join us last hour, hour three