WEBVTT - Marx Bars 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.600 You are now listening and waiting on reparations production of 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:10.360 my heart rate. Uh wait on reparations. Uh uh? You 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:12.600 know the workership at the boxes, They swipper when the 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:14.960 mop and look chipper when never talking and whipping the 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:17.079 shopping cars. They stacked the beer when the walking to 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.680 pack that we're little boxes, keep our kitchen fridges stocking, 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:23.000 not financial markets solving. They're clocking forward fifty bucks and 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.360 bear the copping up like sixty fetchures and gets bit 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:27.560 on my sitting ducks. And they're sick of it enough. 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.200 So if you ever wanted to honor them, here's my all, 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.720 mohammedis we've alway cotton up Amazon and Margeting, FedEx and 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.760 walmartin insto cart and Whole Foods till the fucking boss's 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.000 bargaining workers were in the company. There isn't any arguments. 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.839 Are you with them? Are you with she said, There 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.479 isn't any arguments. The Carroll type of car you win it. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.080 I don't funk with maggot has because I'm a real partisan. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.760 Need to break the system down. Maybe we should start again. 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:52.480 You need to bring your punk as on the left 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:55.040 where you ought to been. They sobbing and crying. Stop 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.400 with the lion, who told you niggas drake bleached? Now 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:00.240 you're coughing and dying. Don't mind me, homie. I'm just 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.040 often defied on the mound, like I'm Nolan Ryan or 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:05.440 I'm Kobe Bryant with the jump shot. I don't give 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.440 a ship about what these punks got. Hold me on 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.240 the microphone, wrap it to my lungs. Pop so stop 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:14.720 so hot you see in some spots, and none of 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:19.559 that made the Hey, what's going on y'all? My name's 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:25.840 Dope night. Hurry up? How you doing this week? Chat? 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:30.320 I'm good. I'm good. I cannot complain too much, you know, 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:34.440 all things considered on a you know, good personal note. 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.120 I have found myself in a little bit of a 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.840 creative streak where I've just been hammering out a lot 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.240 of music. More details to come on that in the future. 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:48.080 And it's always fun to like get back in that 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.360 headspace and that mode where it's like you're just writing 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:55.480 all the time and recording all the time. Um for me, 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.240 it comes in waves. So when I find myself in that, 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.280 I really go for it. But you know, I'm gonna 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.560 be talking about that ship a lot in the future. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.600 Have you been keeping track of this ship going down 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.480 to Texas? You were just talking about the ship, Like 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.200 what the fun is going? There is like a straight 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:16.720 up epidemic of rappers getting shot in Texas. It almost 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:20.360 feels kind of exploitative to like run down a list 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.480 of people who got shot. You know, it's not the 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.280 which rappers got shot? Report show some notable names, a 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:31.320 Little Boozy, Benny the Butcher, both of them survived, a 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.480 newer cat that I haven't personally heard of, Mo three, 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.239 he passed away in a shooting, and a spat of 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:41.959 local rappers. Um, you know, a couple of died, a 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.320 couple of are just wounded. It's not like a conspiracy 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:49.200 or anything. I don't think nothing is seems to be 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.000 related to directly directly related to each other. It's just 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:56.000 super weird. What that's about, all in the state of Texas, 0:02:56.200 --> 0:03:03.399 all within like the last three weeks, two weeks. Yeah, 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.520 so you know, just something, you know, I hate seeing 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.799 anybody die or get shot and ship let alone, you know, 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.760 black men let alone rappers just struck me as something 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.400 I do I'm missing something is they're part of this 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.160 story that I don't know, but it's just someone when 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.640 you keep an eye out, um what's on your radar. 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.440 So here in Georgia, the runoffs are in full swing. 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.839 There's tons of like national organizations descending upon us, trying 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.120 to bring in their expertise and bring in their money. 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:37.360 And so you know, I'm not super stoked about John 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.240 Alsoff in particular, whom I shall speak Friday night at 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.800 the forty wat. He even said some dumb sh it 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.560 like you can't expect your elected officials to vote the 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.440 way you want all the time. It's like way to 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.920 cover your own ass for that fucking horrendous Axios interview 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:56.000 in which you came across as only standing against things 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.160 that are highly popular with the American public and not 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.440 for any thing regardless of whether or not you support 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.120 those policies personally as a viewer. It just looks fucking 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.760 stupid anyway. So just trying to give himself further cover 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.320 from that and like kind of getting heckled by some 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:16.000 of the like young, young, young progressive crowd that were there. 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.680 But the fact of the matter is that, um, we 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.440 do need to flip the Senate in order for anything 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.840 like Medicare for all or a federal jobs guaranteed to 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.120 be remotely possible um in order for people who to 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.880 get a second round of stimulus checks like which is 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.640 ridiculous that we've all only gotten twelve this entire fucking time. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.120 And the fact of the matter is that, uh, if 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.040 people are going to be organizing the state, they need 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.120 to be connecting with folks on the ground who know 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.400 these communities, who have ability to get people trained and 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.920 paid to get out there and do the work of 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.440 contacting folks also off in War Knox campaigns. If you 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.920 donate to that ship, then money is going straight to 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:57.080 consultants and tell them to make ads about puppies and oh, 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:01.040 I'm not a socialists or whatever where Like the most 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.200 effective way to spend money is through actually paying people 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:05.880 to do the work up going out and talking to 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.760 people one on one. I hope they realized that, like, 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:13.520 especially in Georgia, like a lot of the a lot 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.720 of the of what was able to make Georgia flip 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:22.400 was coming out of the progressive you know, aspect progressive 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.640 part of things like this, this isn't this isn't Ohio, 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.200 you know what I'm saying, Like, we're not in that's 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.800 that position. It was the progressive movement and activism that 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.440 really you know, was out there on the ground and 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.200 like signing people up and knocking on door and registration 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.400 when no one was watching and no one gave a fux. Yes, 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.960 that's what we were doing. And so I've launched this 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.960 project called the Athens Progressive Campus and Corps where we 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:50.160 are raising about k to pay people to go out 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.239 and knock on doors and due direct vote or outreach 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.800 over the next six weeks for both our runoff for 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.599 district attorney and for the Senate and Public Service commissioner. 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.599 UM can't pay speaking a public service commissioner. We're gonna 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:06.200 have Democratic candidate Daniel Blackman on the show next week 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.440 to who himself has a background in hip hop um, 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.000 if elected, will be the only statewide elected Democrat in 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.200 the state of Georgia, and as well, I believe the 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.479 first black man to hold this position in a hundred 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.680 and fifty years, So we got history on the line. Yeah, 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:25.080 he's a dope dude. Bernie's two thousands sixteen field director 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.160 for the State of Georgia. So he said, you know 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.920 his comrade, but yeah, so we're having him on next week. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:35.880 But so yeah, I've been getting to work with these 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:40.760 runoffs men not you know, like, if people are gonna 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.400 be get all this fucking hullabaloo about it, then we 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.120 might as well be like directing it to efforts that 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:52.760 are like localized, that are intorrible and offering material, tangible 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.480 benefit to people who live in these communities that we're 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.880 trying to turn out because so many people are out 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.280 to work with the pandemic. People need fucking money, so 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.359 pay them to go talk to people, rather than paying 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.600 for ads on the air where I don't know, you 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.120 talk about you love puppies, I love puppies. I get it. 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.520 I think the the people who make money off of 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:19.240 political ads, they've done well enough. They're they're good. They 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.760 just had like a billion dollars spent on them. They're 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.240 they're good, They're good. I mean, I will be canvassing 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:30.360 along with you, and you know it's there's there's moments 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:34.840 where just sending some money is cool. But boots on 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.000 the ground can make a difference if you can do it, 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.320 and I should clear find the boots in the ground. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.480 Evan shoes on the ground. I didn't mean to make 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.160 a war like analogy, I just wear boots all the 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.960 fucking time. Anyway, With the Georgia election coming up, and 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.720 now that Donald Trump has been at least temporarily defeated, 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.680 like I said, we're keeping monitor of their authoritarian streak 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.800 that's going on with the GOP right now. But now 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.400 that Donald Trump is a little bit to the side, 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.520 and there's more of a spotlight on the differences between 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.280 the varying spectrums of the left and ship, there's been 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.880 a lot of news made of late, like we talked 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:15.400 about last episode with UM the sort of fissure within 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:19.200 the Democratic Party re emerging itself between the progressive wing 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.200 and the establishment moderate centrist wing. I think we're seeing 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.680 this playout in microcosm in Georgia where we do have 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:29.920 some elections on the line, And so this debate nationally 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:35.439 about like what wins is now trickling down into the 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.360 discourse around what should as often more not do in 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:42.120 order to win these runoffs. Should they lean left to 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:46.800 excite you know, the base getting these you know, policies 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.640 like Medicare for all are so broadly popular in the 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.360 American public, or do they play it safe? And like 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.000 just seeing a lot of debate online about what they 0:08:55.040 --> 0:09:00.840 should do. Now, there's definitely tons of complexity to the issue, 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.760 but if you're a regular person and you're not following 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.520 this ship like from day to day, every detail, then 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.800 it kind of kind of gives you kind of get 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.920 the impression that what the fight is is that part 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:20.160 of the Democrats want to be socialists and the other 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.000 part or not, and that's what the issue is. So 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.679 we wanted to talk about the word socialism and the 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:38.040 concept of socialism. Yes, socialism. Um, Like I said, we'll 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:43.720 keep track of the seventy million Americans who don't believe 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:47.760 in reality and the results of the election. They think 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:53.000 that the biker mice from Mars harvested ballads for black people, 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:58.960 and that was before Q could stop the Star Trek 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.040 Enterprise from high respects. I don't know if then these 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.920 people believe it, but we'll keep an eye on it, 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:11.719 all right. Today, today we're talking about socialism, its role 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:16.640 in American politics, black people's participation in different socialist movements, 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.880 and then we'll discuss how hip hop fits in the 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:26.520 capitalists socialist, communist paradigm of ideologies. And to do that, 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:30.560 we're gonna be talking with Communist Rapper and producers Space 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.000 Babies later on in the podcast, and that that was 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.040 a really cool discussion that we had. So wherever you 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.640 are right now, hang on to you butts. We're about 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:54.079 to get in some dope ship. The underperformance of the 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:58.320 Democrats in the House races across the country. Um, there's 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.920 been a lot of finger pointing at more progressive being 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.559 in the party, and by progressive wing, you know that 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.680 obviously means a bunch of people, but like the public 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.920 face of that in this moment of time, I mean, 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:15.840 it's undeniably AOC elean Omar, Eanna Pressley, Rashida to leave 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:21.040 the squad is kind of the face of progressive America. 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.319 Cats like Jeff Tamal Bowman Corey Bush that were just 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:30.559 recently new editions. Yet so per the Atlantic progressives and 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:34.240 moderates have already ditched there united against Trump banner to 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:38.640 publicly litigate the spat Democratic losses during the election, with 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.640 Representative Alexandria Casio Cortez of New York and Counter Lamb 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:46.640 of Pennsylvania offering competing diagnoses of the party's problems. And 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.600 so the argument is that people like AOC can't really 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.360 speak to what works in swing districts because she lives 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.920 in a very deeply blue congressional she holds a very 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:01.720 deeply blue congressional seat, but that ignored data. To the contrary, 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.520 when we take a look at folks like Katie porter 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:10.000 Um and others that represent swing districts, for ran on 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:14.160 issues like Medicare for all and one reelection, whereas moderates 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:20.560 like Debbie Marcrstal Powell Um and Donna Lala like, uh 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.560 that you know, took a more moderate attack and lost 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.640 and lost their elections. Folks like I mean sure, I 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.439 mean Corey Bushes with Corey Bush's district was represented for 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:36.480 a long time by Democratic congressman but still Missouri. She 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:41.480 ran on defunding the police among other things, and Black 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.000 Lives Matter Act, yeah, straight up, back tear gas and 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:48.559 perresentership and um, you know, one election and so like, 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.160 I feel like there's a lot of finger pointing because 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.880 no one wants to admit the weaknesses on their respective sides. 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:02.120 But there is at least some anecdotal evidence to suggest 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:06.280 that running on populist messaging actually works, actually works, even 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:10.760 in in leaning Republican districts. This whole thing kind of 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:14.199 kicked off with a contentious call amongst the House Democratic Caucus, 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.400 and the moderate members were complaining that the progressive members 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.320 who championed ideas like you're funding the police and Medicare 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.160 for all, it cost the party congressional seats and a 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.480 quote the God a fair amount of ink came from 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:32.200 Representative Abigail Spanburger, Democrat from Virginia. She said, we need 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:36.520 to not ever use the words socialists or socialism ever again. 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.360 We lost good members because of that. Now it should 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:46.000 be of note the irony involved with this particular congresswoman 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:51.400 who was a former agent in the CIA, an organization 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:59.199 known for toppling socialist governments ring dictators. So yeah, that 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:03.280 that as what is it about the words socialism and 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:07.760 our understanding of it that scares half the country and 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:11.560 then a large chunk of it just has trouble understanding. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:18.599 I would say that having studied somewhat US interventions and 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:22.280 socialist governments around the world, um and governments around the 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.120 world in general, and what their modus operandi seems to 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:31.080 be is an interest in expanding global markets to extend 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.840 the reach of corporate power in a way that enriches 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:37.760 the folks that donate to the campaigns of the people 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.640 that are in Congress and in the Senate. UM. You 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:46.600 think about the way that UH after the fall of Fuck, 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.720 after the invasion of Iraq, the way that the borders 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.200 were opened and and goods started flowing in from Iran 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.080 and other countries. UM and they promised they were going 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:02.280 to build Walmarts and Donald's is um sure, it was 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:07.360 about toppling a dictatorship, but it was also about making 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.080 making Haliburton tons of money and making money for tons 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:15.040 of multinational corporations that wanted to get access to that market. 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:20.320 If you look at the way that um uh we 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:26.680 backed the see we be backed the military coup against 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:31.400 Salvadoriende in Chile in the nineteen seventies, UM like, it's 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:35.480 out of fear that our our global reach, our global 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:40.600 ability to control the flows of of of capital, of 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.520 goods in and out of other countries, and that ultimately 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.480 that capital will align the pockets of folks here in 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.520 the United States. We're we're so are so scared, we're 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:51.840 so scared of socialism because of how it affects our 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.400 bottom lines as Americans and not us says it me 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.240 and you obviously, but like thinking about just like the 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.640 folks that represent us, these are the fears that they have. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.280 We we also have to give credit to the propaganda 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.360 machine of it too. I mean, I'm I'm that unique 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.560 age where it's like I was a child both during 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.320 the Cold War and postcode or you know what I'm saying, 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.840 So I remember what it was like growing up on 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.240 both sides of that, and it's like, you know, there 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.680 was a time when the communist was the bad guy 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.120 in everything, you know what I'm saying, And it's just 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:27.600 for for for years, socialists and communists have always been 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.720 used as like a pejorative by the American right against 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:36.360 leftists or radical anti establishment you know, people from the left. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:41.680 And you know, I would say in my lifetime, when 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:46.520 I really when I started like noticing the how the 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.000 use of that was like becoming what it is today, 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.080 the use of that word socialism and how it's used politically, 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.880 probably like in two thousand and eight, when Barack Obama 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.000 was running, you know what I'm saying, Like in particular, 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:04.680 after uh John McCain had selected Sarah Palin and she 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.440 had had her first speech and the party started like 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.720 morphing into what we know the Republican Party now, that 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:15.480 is when it was just this nonsensical use of like 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.960 anybody who is left of Mussolini is a socialist, you 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:21.680 know what I'm saying, And it's like Barack Obama is 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:27.199 a socialist, and it kind of it gained more notoriety 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.120 as a thing. They were doing it all throughout Barack 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:33.760 Obama's presidency. Then Bernie Sanders ascension during the primary in 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.320 two thousand and sixteen made socialism become more of a 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.600 hot topic again, and it was like him and Hillary 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:44.040 Clinton duked it out and next thing, you know, during 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.560 the by the time the general election came around, the 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.520 Republicans were saying Hillary Clinton was the biggest socialist queen 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.080 and then she invented socialism, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.560 And the same thing now we see the same exact 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.800 thing where they were just sitting down and waiting for 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.719 whoever came out of the democ At again that they 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:02.800 could and they would paint it with that brush of 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:07.399 socialists and socialism. So we know that that accounts for 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.280 that half of the country. They're all living in this 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.440 right wing echo chamber where they're getting fed that propaganda 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.440 still like it's nineteen sixty or some ship like that. 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.760 Socially scial litt communist communists are coming for you. They're 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:23.840 gonna take your kids, they're gonna you know, all that 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:29.399 if your black lives matters communists, the antifas communists. So 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:35.160 now that we're in this state where people are scared 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:39.720 of it, and you know, like the Democrats are trying 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.840 to push this message of like be scared of that word. 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.320 We need to stay away from that word. We need 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.320 to stay away from board and by extension, it's we 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:50.880 need to stay away from those ideas, and and it's 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.320 just it's like, that's what makes me scared about it 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.760 is to me, it's it's kind of like a dog 0:18:55.880 --> 0:19:00.080 signal of the Democrats drifting further right as opposed to 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.720 there being any risk that they're going to become like 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:05.640 a socialist party. It's just like, you know, an abandonment 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.480 of leftist principles in general. I think that's what the signals. 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.840 It's hard enough to get people to look up some 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.960 ship that they don't know to begin with, but with that, 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.760 if somebody does hear something like that, let's say someone 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:23.520 like my mom, you know, whenever these sort of things 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:25.240 come up. I always think of my mom. My mom 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.560 is like at the mercy of like watching the news 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.480 and what MSNBC, you know, when she hears stuff like that. 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:33.879 If she were to take it upon herself to go 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.480 like look up socialism, he should get on Google and 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.760 do Google search for it and then read with the 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:45.000 first result was which will probably be Wikipedia. So what 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:51.399 does Wikipedia tell the average Internet searcher what socialism is? 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:55.399 Let's check this out. So socialism, in essence, it's political, social, 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:59.800 and economic philosophy encompassing a range of economics and social systems, 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:04.280 all characterized by social ownership of the means production and 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:09.360 worker self management of enterprises. So pretty much, workers run 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.359 the world. We create all value through our labor, and 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.200 so we should not only control the means of production 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:20.840 through which capital is produced, but also uh operate democratically 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:25.320 within those workplaces to make decisions for ourselves as um 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:32.560 workers enclaves, as you know, as places of work. Um. Uh. 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:38.240 Social ownership can be public through you know, like the government, collective, 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:42.520 through communities, cooperative, or based on equity. And there's and 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:46.520 there's no single definition that capitalates that encapsulates all the 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:51.720 many types of socialism. Socialism is UM though. Social ownership 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:56.000 is like the one common element that all these things share. UM. 0:20:56.720 --> 0:21:05.560 So there's like anarcho syndicalism, anarcho communism, state communism, whatever 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.240 you want to call it. All these things are socialists 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:11.359 and that the common element they all share a social 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:15.240 ownership of the means of production. So there's, like I said, 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:18.040 this is all from Wikipedia, and I just felt that 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:20.119 it's important because the average person who's going to look 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:22.280 it up, if they're interested, they're gonna stumble across that. 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.639 So you are, like you would consider yourself to be 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.240 a socialist. I would consider myself a baby socialist, and 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.640 that I'm still studying theory, and so I can't really 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:35.639 speak like authoritatively on like the political economy of like 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:41.240 both the when we're currently living under and how like 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:45.320 capitalism is failing us and why UM as well as 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:49.919 what communism or full socialism look like. But the general idea, 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:51.840 I mean, it comes back to the social ownership of 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:56.159 the means production. I do believe that UM workers you know, 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:00.320 ship the boxes, they whiffering them up, and they you know, 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:03.600 should run the ship because then you produce that we 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:06.960 produce ship so then even even though you know you 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:11.960 feel that you can't necessarily speak authority authoritative lee about it, 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:16.719 do you atomous? But do you feel, as someone who 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:20.200 considers themselves to be a socialist, do you feel comfortable 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:23.640 with that opening blurb that you just read. Yeah, I think, 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:27.320 I think, And this is on especially like we on 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.159 the left, what we all have in common for the 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:32.600 most part being that we believe in social ownership of 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:36.080 the means of production. Like that's sort of my guiding principle, 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:38.479 and like how with others on the left, like are 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:41.200 you good with that? We can sess out the differences 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:44.359 between whether we believe there should be a government or not, 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:48.200 whether or not we believe private property should exist at all. 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:50.760 But like you know, I'm gonna fight with you over 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:53.680 that if you're down with this general idea that workers run, 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:56.480 that workers run the world, and the world should treat 0:22:56.520 --> 0:23:05.280 them as if they do. I was watching God I 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:08.560 wish I tried looking it up, but I couldn't find it. 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:10.520 It was one of those things where you're scrolling on 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:12.600 Facebook and you see the video but you don't know 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:16.080 who was by. So it was this funny skit um 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:18.639 and this was back, you know, closer to when the 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:20.920 George Floyd stuff was popping off, right, But it was 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.360 like a skit. It's like this black dude and he's 0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:25.720 at a protest and he's like, listen to the talker, 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:28.359 and the talker is like, we have to fight for 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.720 black lives, and everyone's like yeah. He's like yeah, it's 0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:36.000 like and we have to fight for reparations. Yeah, and 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.320 he's like yeah yeah. It's like then they just started 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.360 going off this like list and we have to make 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.840 sure that there are no white people that are doing 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.879 voices for black characters. And he's like, oh really, and 0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:49.000 everyone's like sharing it is like, and we have to 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:52.359 fight for the brxist, letting us revolution. He's like wait what, 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:58.080 he doesn't know. It just brings it just brings to 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:01.000 mind that it's um, there is a lot, you know, 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:03.800 and I kind of feel it's right wing game as well, 0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:09.480 but there there does seem to be almost a effort 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:18.040 to portray this radical or socialists streak in in American 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:21.760 politics is being something that's white, and that is like 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:24.080 and I think I think there is some there is 0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:28.000 some sort of like historical precedent for that in that 0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:35.040