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Speaker 1: What's happened?

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Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome into another edition of Texans All access and

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Speaker 2: wonderful Wednesday. Hopefully wherever you are, whether it's raining or

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Speaker 2: windy or nice, because listen, you live in Texas or

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Speaker 2: somewhere thereabouts city. Yeah, in the same city, on the

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Speaker 2: southeast side, you could have ninety degrees and sun, and

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Speaker 2: on the northeast side you could have a directro coming

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Speaker 2: in like we did last week.

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Speaker 1: The rate John don't exactly know how to say it.

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Speaker 1: I just was, yes, just bad almost Tuesday. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it was pretty close to the same thing. Yeah, Holy

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Speaker 1: trees down.

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Speaker 3: It was ridiculous, knocked howses down in some cases, at

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Speaker 3: least houses under construction as I saw.

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Speaker 1: So I let that all.

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Speaker 2: I've let that weather kind of pass, and then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, when it passed, it was like, oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, it's.

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Speaker 1: Like eighty degrees. Yeah, a little bit overcast. It was beautiful,

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Speaker 1: you know what. It was beautiful? You know what.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like though, So my power went out. Okay, Fine,

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Speaker 3: it comes back on five hours later. Fine, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: walked the dog last night. But I'm walking around the

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Speaker 3: hood and I'm noticing not everybody power, right, it was spotty,

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Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, oh, that sucks because it's dark. I

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Speaker 3: got back late from that season ticket members event, which

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Speaker 3: was awesome, but yeah, when you talk about that a

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Speaker 3: little bit, it was awesome, but that really bothers me

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Speaker 3: and I hate it for people, and I think I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna have to just sink my life savings into one

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Speaker 3: of those generators that just flips on because the Harley

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Speaker 3: Davidson I have or whatever the generator is, you know,

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Speaker 3: you know that thing all right, it may or may

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Speaker 3: not start in the neighbor exactly, like dude, put a

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Speaker 3: muffler on that generator.

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Speaker 2: My gosh, the one Friday night when the when the

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Speaker 2: big storm hit us, you know, not na, that was

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Speaker 2: last Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I don't my days mixed up.

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Speaker 2: But a while back when that storm, the big storm

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Speaker 2: hit the heights and Shady Acres and Timbergrove, you know,

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Speaker 2: over in that area, there was somebody had a generator

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Speaker 2: and that thing was loud.

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Speaker 1: It was very close and it sucks for everybody.

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Speaker 2: So loud. Was like, oh my gosh, this thing is

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Speaker 2: so loud. It's so quiet. There's no noise, there's no

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Speaker 2: power there's no power, like, there's no harm, there's none

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Speaker 3: And you just hear this, you know, yeh motorcycle during

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Speaker 3: the deep freeze. You knew who had them and who

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Speaker 3: did right, And I was about to say something silly like,

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Speaker 3: why can't those things just run on electricity? Oh wait,

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Speaker 3: oh wait a minute, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well you've got I saw and I've seen a bunch

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Speaker 2: of these, like smaller generators that power certain segments of

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Speaker 2: your house, maybe not the whole.

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Speaker 1: They're not gased, they're not gas generators. They're they're they're

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Speaker 1: battery driven.

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Speaker 2: They're battery driven, Yeah, rechargeable, battery driven, so you can

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Speaker 2: run for a certain amount of time. Use that sucker

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Speaker 2: up every day of my life until I need it. Man,

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, yesterday was just as bad. I walked

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Speaker 2: out and I thought, oh boy, this is this is wild.

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Speaker 2: And you know who also had that issue, who wasn't

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Speaker 2: about to leave yesterday is one Drew Rosenhaus. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I happen to see in the West Lobby as I

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Speaker 2: was going to check out what the weather was like

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Speaker 2: in the airport, was there. And now he's from Miami,

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Speaker 2: so he knows, he knows bad Weather, but they were

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Speaker 1: He and I guess his partner.

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Speaker 2: They were just waiting because they had already gotten it done,

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Speaker 2: getting the contract signed with Nico College, which was fantastic,

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Speaker 2: which leads us.

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Speaker 1: I said, Cokaines, because Rosenhaus is a cane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Gocaines of course, which leads us to this.

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins signed a deal. You guys, we talked about

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Speaker 1: it last night. Three years.

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Speaker 2: I think it's what's seventy to seventy two and some

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Speaker 2: change can get up to seventy five is fifty two

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Speaker 2: million dollars guaranteed. I was kind of weird that that,

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Speaker 2: you know, professional athletes just have their contract stuff all

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Speaker 2: out there for everybody to know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's always kind of strange.

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Speaker 2: B Any, the way Nico's gonna get paid, There's there's

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Speaker 2: no doubt about that.

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Speaker 4: Mark.

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Speaker 2: But one of the things that stood out and for

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Speaker 2: a long long time, this was kind of a run.

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Speaker 1: It was honestly, it was a running joke, but.

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Speaker 2: It kind of was how good the Texas would be

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Speaker 2: in the first round for a long time. In the

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Speaker 2: first round, I mean, going back star really with Dwayne

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Speaker 2: Brown in o Way, Dwayne Brown became a Pro bowler,

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Speaker 2: Brian Cushing was a Pro bowler. Kareem Jackson turned to

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Speaker 2: really really good player for the Texans. Twenty eleven, some

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Speaker 2: guy named Watt twenty twelve, Whitney Merciless, Alternate Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins, Pro Bowl, All Pro receiver, Jevion Clowney, Pro

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Speaker 2: Bowl defensive end, Kevin Johnson got hurt. Will Fuller when

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Speaker 2: he could stay on the field, he was incredible. To

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Speaker 2: Sean Watson in seventeen, we know what he was able

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Speaker 2: to do. Those were all those first round picks for

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Speaker 2: a long time, but then the third round for some reason,

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Speaker 2: ended up being this just wasteland of picks. He went,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this guy's gonna be great, and then nothing.

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Speaker 2: Where does Nico Collins fall him being a third rounder?

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Speaker 2: A third rounder of that Nick cas Sirio traded up

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Speaker 2: to go get after not playing football all in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two covid and how the Big ten screwed that

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Speaker 2: all up for Nico and plenty of others in that

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Speaker 2: common diference, Nico Collins is he I know, we can't

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Speaker 2: say he's the best third rounder ever.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna talk about this. Let's discuss. We can

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Speaker 3: have an open discussion on this. I'm here to say

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Speaker 3: the third round for the Houston Texans historically has not

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Speaker 3: been as bad as some people have said. Some people

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Speaker 3: painted out to be this wasteland historically. I know there

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Speaker 3: are some names you can think of right off the bat.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna share some with you, but I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 3: Johnny that it's been better than people think. There are

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Speaker 3: more good names here then people might realize now.

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Speaker 1: Early on it was a little rough, a little bit rough.

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Speaker 3: Although I like Fred Weary and two Fred Rurier was

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Speaker 3: a good player, it took him a while to get

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Speaker 3: committed to playing him, I thought he played pretty well.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, it's not a Pro Bowl pick, I get it.

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Speaker 3: Not a Hall of Famer in year two. I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna go over every single year, but I'm going over

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Speaker 3: some of the highlights and or low lights, like Dave

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Speaker 3: Ragon in year two, which I like Dave a lot,

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Speaker 3: but that did not work out and they drafted them

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Speaker 3: a year after drafting David Carr obviously number one overall. Uh,

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Speaker 3: let's go right to They had no third round draft

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Speaker 3: choice in two thousand and four. I think they gave

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Speaker 3: that up in the Babin deal, that's right, in order

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Speaker 3: to move up and get Jason Babbin from Western Michigan.

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Speaker 3: But at oh five Vernon MORENCI running back Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 1: Okay, never mind oh five?

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait do you I got caught on that because

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Speaker 2: I was going from the bottom up as I'm.

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Speaker 3: Going from the bottom up. Okay, that's so, I'm at five.

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Speaker 3: So let me let me hitch, is there anybody in

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Speaker 3: the first O, two, three for three years, four years

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Speaker 3: of franchise history that's really a good third round draft choice?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: But these are not Rick Smith drafts. These are Charlie.

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Speaker 3: Hey see, I drafted these guys. It didn't work up,

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Speaker 3: but I got some other good ones for you.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to hear the running backs that were

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Speaker 1: drafted after Vernon?

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Speaker 3: Right, you're gonna make me see that's another thing.

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Speaker 1: Who you whift on? Yes? Wif On?

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Speaker 2: Well, ironically the next one and number seventy seven was

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Speaker 1: That would have been good.

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Speaker 2: The last pick of the third round was a guy

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Speaker 2: named Maurice clrett most ended as a Texan anymore.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: That's why I said agains up being a Texan.

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Speaker 2: Maurice Clorette was the last pick of the third round,

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Speaker 2: which was a joke, but that didn't work out.

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Speaker 1: It didn't work out.

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Speaker 2: But this pick, fourth round, pick one O nine, Marion Barber,

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys pro bowler. The very next pick, no Brandon Jacobs,

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Speaker 2: No New York Giants. Okay, I'm not done, because there's

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Speaker 2: a Seatric face on. And then there's an Alvin Pearman.

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Speaker 2: But at pick one thirty, fourth round, you know him

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Speaker 2: because he is a Texans killer with the Chargers, the Eagles, Brawls,

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Speaker 3: Where do you have MORENCI ranked in now?

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Speaker 2: Marenzi coming out of Oklahoma State was was relatively highly ranked.

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Speaker 1: I mean he was, he was, he was up there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I I can't remember all that

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Speaker 1: ever had on him.

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Speaker 2: But I wasn't totally surprised by that because he was very,

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Speaker 2: very good at Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you look back with hindsight and you go

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Speaker 2: my god, you took Vernon Morency in front of Marion Barber.

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Speaker 2: I like Marion Barber at the time, probably more than

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Speaker 2: a lot of these running backs, because he was a hammer,

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Speaker 2: he was a physical presence. He was gonna make you.

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Speaker 2: But he was kind of poor man's Marshawn Lynch. He

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Speaker 2: was that kind of running back. And then Jacob's coming

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Speaker 2: right behind him. I was a big fan of Jacobs

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Speaker 2: just because you don't you don't find six four, two

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Speaker 2: sixty running backs with his size at jillian speed, you know.

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Speaker 2: But he was just a guy that had to kind

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Speaker 2: of move around to find an opportunity. It didn't work

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Speaker 2: at Auburn, so he goes to Southern Illinois and then

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Speaker 2: he ends up with the Giants and he becomes a

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Speaker 2: big part of their Super Bowl teams. But you know,

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Speaker 2: you had two Pro bowlers that were drafted, and Jacob's

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Speaker 2: name make Pro Bowl. So you had Marion Barber, Darren Sprolls,

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Speaker 2: and Brandon Jacobs, all three of them drafted after Vernon

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Speaker 2: Morency in the all round.

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Speaker 1: Oh that was that era.

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Speaker 3: Then we go Kubiak and Rick Smith come in. Although

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Speaker 3: Charlie Casserly did the six draft with Kubiak. But in

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Speaker 3: four of the next five years, the third round draft

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Speaker 3: choices are very solid because in six you get Eric

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Speaker 3: Winston and you got Charles Spencer. Two Spencer and injury casualty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just that, that's.

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Speaker 3: An injury situation, right, You don't call that it's injury

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Speaker 3: bust versus real bust. Right, So, Eric Winston outstanding third.

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Speaker 1: Round draft choice. I mean, that's an amazing pick right there.

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Speaker 3: The following year, oh seven, Rick Smith selects Jacoby Jones,

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Speaker 3: and Jacoby that's a really nice third round pick. All right,

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Speaker 3: he's not all world whatever, but he ends up winning

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Speaker 3: a Super Bowl with the Ravens. I kind of forgive

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Speaker 3: him for that, I guess at this point. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: do we agree solid third round? Solid third round pick

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Speaker 3: at the very least? Oh wait, Steve Slayton, this is

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Speaker 3: a home run third round pick, but an injury casualty

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: You want to avoid the other two thousand and eight

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Speaker 3: The other two thousand that was that was untwine Molden

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Speaker 3: That is a super solid third round, very good outstanding.

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Speaker 3: You didn't resign him. He went to San Francisco. But

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Speaker 1: Shall we continue? No third round pick? And eleven? Wait,

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Speaker 3: All right, that's not a great idea. Sorry, all right,

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Speaker 2: Because you drafted Brooks Reed. Remember you drafted JJ, you

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Speaker 2: I would admit one thousand percent. At the time, I

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Speaker 1: It was the right.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a great move because I thought

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Speaker 3: Okay, there was that. And they also drafted Rock Carmichael

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Speaker 3: And then they signed Jonathan Joseph and Daniel Manns a

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Speaker 1: Out swimmingly as well as you could possibly have it.

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Speaker 3: And then another draft choice later ran either six or seven,

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Speaker 3: to twenty twelve. Brandon Brooks is a third round draft choice.

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Speaker 3: This is a super duper solid third round draft choice, outstanding.

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Speaker 3: I know he didn't sign him, re sign him to

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something really really strange. Brandon Brooks is

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Speaker 2: I think No, I don't think he's gonna end up

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Speaker 1: Had a long enough period of dominance. But that good.

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Speaker 2: But when he was with the Eagles, he was that good.

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Speaker 2: He was that guard for a long time with the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one.

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Speaker 3: Next year or no, same year, Devere Posey wide receiver

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Speaker 3: Ohio State. Now Devere not a good NFL career. Remember,

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Speaker 3: at the end of his rookie year, tore his achilles.

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Speaker 3: don't think we get any credit for that, So let's

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Speaker 3: just leave.

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Speaker 1: It's not good on now.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: Twenty thirteen to me is the one that went.

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Speaker 3: That's where the reputation really got.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think.

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Speaker 3: I think Cam Montgomery part of Roke. Sam Montgomery was

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Speaker 3: part of the Kansas City three and Brennan Williams, who

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Speaker 1: What is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was also a big wrestling fan. He was

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Speaker 2: a LARPing. Okay, live action role playing, that's LARPing.

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Speaker 3: So what role are you playing? Is this a you're

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Speaker 1: Or what is this? I know you play a different role. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Couldn't he have played the role of an offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Did either one of them play in a game

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Speaker 3: I don't think Williams did. Montgomery might have. Boy, that's

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Speaker 3: bad that I don't remember that.

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Speaker 2: Well, it goes to show I think that's where to me,

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Speaker 2: this is where it starts. This is where you start

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Speaker 2: looking at the third round.

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Speaker 3: This is also Rick listening to certain coaches in the

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Speaker 3: building because I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know if Montgomery did not play in a game for

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Speaker 1: the Texans and Williams didn't either, did he I don't

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Speaker 1: think he did. I don't think he entered a lot

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is these guys would not stand a chance

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Speaker 3: to get drafted by this organization today, neither one of them.

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Speaker 3: Nick and Tamiko are not drafting those guys. And no

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Speaker 3: offense to you guys, but they're not going to fit

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Speaker 3: in with this kind of the.

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Speaker 2: Number eighty nine ninety five picks and see the thirteen

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Speaker 1: And it's a that's a bang up move.

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Speaker 2: I mean to get Hopkins at twenty seven, then you

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Speaker 2: get Swearinger, you get Swag, and Swag needed to be

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Speaker 2: knocked down a few pegs.

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Speaker 1: But then you go third round. Brendan Williams didn't play.

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Speaker 1: Third round. Sam Montgomery didn't play. Fourth round.

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Speaker 2: Travardo Williams from Connecticut. No, that's who you draft in

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Speaker 2: the fourth round. I think I don't think Travardo played

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Speaker 2: how many play He played three games for Washington, Your third,

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Speaker 2: third and fourth round picks played zero games.

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Speaker 1: For the Tests. Rough.

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Speaker 3: Rough Give me the rest of that draft, though, because

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Speaker 3: there's a player that comes along later that actually had

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Speaker 3: a really good career. Yeah yeah, where he was drafted now,

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Speaker 3: David Quesnonberry. We know what happened to David Quesnberry, right,

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Speaker 3: but David's been in the league for.

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Speaker 1: A long time.

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Speaker 3: I have to call that a really good pick, yeah

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Speaker 3: for you, but meaning not of the Texans. But overall,

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Speaker 3: what a great decision in that you identified talent late

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Speaker 3: in the draft and he turns out to warrant that

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Speaker 3: had non Hodgkins Lymphoma.

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Speaker 2: I sit on radio the next day after the draft

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Speaker 2: is over. On Monday, I came back in. I was

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Speaker 2: and I said, I said, I would have flipped picks.

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Speaker 2: I would have taken Quizsenberry in the third. I would

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Speaker 2: have taken I would have taken Brendan Williams in the sixth. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: six round, Alan Bonner wide receiver. That didn't work out

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Speaker 2: at all. Now, these next two guys actually did work out.

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Speaker 2: One of them worked out here. That was Ryan griff

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Speaker 2: that tight end from Connecticut. Right, very very good pick,

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Speaker 2: great pick. I love that pick. Chris Jones was defense

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Speaker 2: tackle for Bowling Green. He actually starts for the Patriots

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Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl the next year in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: But not the Chris Jones everyone is thinking right now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not the Chiefs Chris Jones. This is the Chris Jones.

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Speaker 2: It was from Bowling Green, who ended up having I

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Speaker 2: think probably a three or four year career again as

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Speaker 2: a six rounder, but he started for the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: That twenty thirteen draft is kind of when it turns

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Speaker 2: because then you get into the you know, Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 3: More third rounders were doing third rounders because Nico Collins,

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Speaker 3: the third rounder, is the best third rounder in the

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Speaker 3: history of the franchise. All right, Lewis Knicks and c J.

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Speaker 3: Fedorowitz in twenty fourteen. I think CJ's a really solid pick.

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Speaker 3: Concussions got him, otherwise he's probably still playing. My gosh,

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Speaker 3: Lewis Knicks, I don't know what was happening there, the

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Speaker 3: late Lewis Knicks, who obviously did not work out football wise.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: I had somebody that was that said, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're going to be any good at it. Nicks was

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Speaker 2: hurt the first year, and then was cut after training

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Speaker 2: really played at that particular point. I was convinced in

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Speaker 2: twenty fifteen that this was the right guy, Jalen Strong.

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Speaker 2: I thought Jalen Strong was going to be that bodied,

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Speaker 2: fyscal receiver you put with hop Yeah, and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: And that was not the name is fit from Jump.

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Speaker 3: I know you can name at least one of his

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Speaker 3: two biggest catches.

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Speaker 2: Colts twenty fifteen at Indy twenty sixteen, Sunday Night. Down

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Speaker 2: the field, he makes the catch before field game winning

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Speaker 2: field goal. Yeah yeah, Colts killer killer Jalen Strong. So

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Speaker 2: you got a little bit, but not what you wanted

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Speaker 2: of a third rounder. The next year, Braxton Miller in

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Speaker 2: a third round. I thought this was gonna be huge.

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Speaker 3: I can't blame them for taking Braxton Miller.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was going to be huge, A really

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Speaker 2: good football player that just didn't really know how to

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Speaker 2: play wide receiver. Yeah, and I think you know they tried. Uh,

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Speaker 2: they tried the next year. If the outda Foreman stays healthy,

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Speaker 2: I think he could have been in the mix.

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Speaker 3: Look he's still in the league, right, Yeah, he's still

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Speaker 3: This is a good pick, a good there's a risk

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Speaker 3: obviously didn't work out here, but the out day form

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Speaker 2: Okay, So assess the next three. Now, one of these

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Speaker 2: three we know is not a great pick.

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Speaker 3: Teams Ranking twenty eighteen, you get three selections.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we did draft until the third round.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you get Jordan Akins, Martinez, Rankin and Justin Reid,

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Speaker 3: and Reid went the highest of those three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Justin borders on being a pro bowler. Now

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Speaker 2: he's with the you know, the Chiefs. Justin and Justin's pick.

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Speaker 3: As far as accomplishments in this league, is the best

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Speaker 3: third rounder in the history of the franchise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yeah, absolutely absolutely. I mean what he did here,

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Speaker 2: couple of rings. I mean, he's.

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Speaker 3: Total talent, results, everything, everything where he's played. But we

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Speaker 3: give him a run for his money.

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Speaker 1: But they got to continue to go all right.

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Speaker 3: For instance, Jonathan Garnard in twenty twenty is a third

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Speaker 3: round selection. I always forget about that. In my mind

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Speaker 3: he's second, but he was the second player we took

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Speaker 3: that draft because Ross Blacklock.

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Speaker 1: Was number ninety.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Garnardause, I remember you asked me during the draft

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Speaker 2: and I was like, hey man, John Grenard is still

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Speaker 2: John Garnard not surprising but yeah, you know, look, I

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Speaker 2: We've said this many times, we said it about JG.

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Speaker 1: It's stung losing him.

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Speaker 2: I know, Look, we got the Neil Hunter Denico Autria

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Speaker 2: doubt it stings losing John Grenard. That guy was a leader.

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Speaker 2: He was He was obviously great with the Meetia, he

439
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,760
Speaker 2: was great with us. He was very cordial, courteous, just

440
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,600
Speaker 2: a really stand up guy. Went through so much change,

441
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 2: defensive line coach changes, defense coordinators changes, COVID COVID coaching changes,

442
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 2: all of that, and finally when it got some semblance

443
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 2: of normalcy, he put up a twelve and a half

444
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 2: sack year last year, and then he got paid by

445
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings, and I'm happy happy for him for that.

446
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: But after that there's Nico Christian's got an opportunity Tank.

447
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 1: Dell and then this year the third round pick was

448
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:01,719
Speaker 1: Kaylen Bullock.

449
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,919
Speaker 2: So in the end, Mark is Nico Collins the best

450
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 2: third round pick in the history of the franchise.

451
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,160
Speaker 3: I think he's got to put together at least one

452
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 3: more Oka season comparable to last year. Over one thousand

453
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 3: yards eighty or so catches, plus, and I think we

454
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,199
Speaker 3: can declare him that then because you have I'm not

455
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 3: saying Nico's a one off guy. A lot of people

456
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,959
Speaker 3: are poo pooing what he did in twenty twenty one

457
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 3: and twenty twenty two. Look, those were extraordinary years. When

458
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 3: you look at the uniqueness of them. You know you're

459
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 3: coming off COVID, you have David Cully as your head coach.

460
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Speaker 3: I don't have to go through all that.

461
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 1: I can't.

462
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 3: Nico played what twelve games or so each of those campaigns.

463
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Speaker 3: You know what the quarterback situation was. I thought he

464
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,679
Speaker 3: he did fine for a third round draft choice based

465
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 3: on not having played much the COVID year and all that.

466
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Speaker 1: I thought he did fine.

467
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 3: You wanted to see the jump once you got things

468
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 3: stabilized here and you had the nurturing environment you have here,

469
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 3: and guess what he erupted with nearly thirteen hundred yards

470
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 3: and all those big plays we saw. So not yet, Johnny,

471
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 3: I think it's still Justin Reid. I think it's still

472
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: Justin Reid.

473
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Speaker 1: I think you're right.

474
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 2: I think Justin Reid is absolutely he's in that Brandon

475
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: Brooks you could throw in there.

476
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: And maybe Brooks you know, offensive line, they're not gonna

477
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 3: put up the numbers. And he's done better in Philly

478
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 3: than he did here. But you know, that was another

479
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 3: thing they talked about third and fourth rounders they the media.

480
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 3: But Ben Jones and Brandon Brooks were two really good picks,

481
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 3: and Jones was a fourth rounds raft choice and you

482
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 3: just chose not to resign them. But they both ended

483
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 3: up playing a bunch passed here and having success with

484
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 3: their teams.

485
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 1: So does that mean they're bad picks?

486
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Speaker 3: Means maybe you should have resigned one or both or

487
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, we can debate that, but it means

488
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 3: you you pick talented guys. Question about that. So those

489
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,719
Speaker 3: guys are in that mix. But Jones is a fourth rounder.

490
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 3: I would say Nico. Nico's got a shot here, but

491
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 3: he's got to put together at least one more really

492
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 3: good year and then we can say that, Yeah.

493
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

494
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 2: I mean Steve Slaton put together another year after what

495
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 2: he had done as a rookie. Yeah, he threw him

496
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: obviously in the mix as well, But I think justin

497
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 2: Brandon would be the two definitely at the top of

498
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 2: the list.

499
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 3: Just what's gonna happen though, if Nico Collins. Let's say

500
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 3: he has eighty catches this year. He goes to sixth

501
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 3: on the all time receiving list for the Houston Texans,

502
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: behind Arian Foster, Kevin Walter, Ow and Daniels, DeAndre Hopkins

503
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 3: and of course Andre Johnson. Let's say that Nico Collins

504
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 3: has one thousand yards receiving. Okay, he jumps right into

505
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: the top five behind Walter in all time yardage and

506
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 3: receptions in franchise history. Wow. Yeah, and you know it's

507
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: just a thousand yard season with just a thousand, Yeah,

508
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 3: just a thousand. Yeah, So he had almost thirteen hundred

509
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: this year. I think a thousand is reasonable, absolutely, because

510
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 3: you know, give me digs one thousand, Nico, one thousand,

511
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 3: Tank eight hundred or something like that, and we'll go

512
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: down the line from there.

513
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

514
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 3: Tank wants to talk to me now and say I'm

515
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 3: gonna get more than eight hundred. We'll see about.

516
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: That phone number. He's got a few few text descent. Now, look, Tank,

517
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: Stefan and Nico, which is a thousand for me?

518
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: To you, that's it. That's a thousand for me.

519
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 3: Three thousand of strouts passing yards and go to tank

520
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: Nico and digs that that would be fantastics not happening.

521
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 3: I know it's not happening. Then you go Schultz six seven.

522
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: Hundred, and then that game is coming out soon. You

523
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: can make it happen with Matt in real life. Maybe

524
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: not as much.

525
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 3: If CJ throws for forty five hundred, we can accommodate everybody.

526
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 3: But I want to have forty five hundred in leads

527
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 3: and successful games and wins.

528
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 2: If you have forty five hundred in leads and you're

529
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 2: gonna be the best offense, oh yeah, wins and yeah

530
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: because if you were running the ball, we'd be running

531
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Speaker 2: ball well.

532
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: Like we said, TUA led the league and they had

533
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: a winning record. But you want to have a better

534
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 3: record than that.

535
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, But you want to have Nico Collins and

536
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: Drew Doherty and I went in the lab to discuss

537
00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: all things Nico.

538
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Speaker 1: That's right here on Textans All Access.

539
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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to Wednesday Ish at Texans All Access

540
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Speaker 2: from Monday Texans Radio Studio. I am John Harris Football

541
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Speaker 2: on the Sideline Reporter. You're a host for the evening.

542
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: Also one half of the in the Lab crew, Drew

543
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 2: Doerty and I sat down today and crank through our

544
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 2: thoughts on the Nico Collins extension, and they are right here.

545
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Speaker 4: John. I'm happy. I'm very happy. You know why?

546
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: Why?

547
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 4: Because why Nico Collins.

548
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, happy.

549
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 5: Guy has been rewarded and he's going to be around

550
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 5: for a while and that makes me excited. We're gonna

551
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 5: go very in depth with Nico Collins and kind of

552
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 5: share a little memory or two about him. But I'm

553
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 5: also happy, John, because my twins, Marie and Roberts. I say,

554
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 5: our twins, Vita and myself my wife. It just turned

555
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 5: eleven today, so it's a big day for us.

556
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 4: We're excited.

557
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: Birthday twins. Yeah, that's awesome.

558
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 5: It's a nice, uh double shot of good news because

559
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 5: the twins, their per take and Nico Collins, which let's

560
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 5: talk about number twelve two years ago, had a solid

561
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 5: rookie year, but he was in and out because of injuries.

562
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 5: He didn't get to play, but we saw glimpses in

563
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 5: that season. Opener at Cleveland takes one about what twenty

564
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 5: thirty yards and he's instantly out.

565
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 4: It's like, dang it, that's just a glimpse. Always a

566
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 4: good interview.

567
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 5: Always a fun guy to talk with, really really cool

568
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 5: learning the game second year in and out, but still

569
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 5: shows glimpses of maybe there's something there.

570
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 4: And then this year CJ.

571
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 5: Stroud, Bobby Slow come in and they got the key

572
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 5: and they unlock Nico Collins. Now we knew, and I've

573
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 5: said this many many times, but I'm gonna say it

574
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 5: again right now, we knew going into the draft. Coming

575
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 5: out of the draft, Nico Collins is a tall, big

576
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 5: bodied receiver. Hey, he's probably gonna be able to win

577
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 5: those contested balls.

578
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 4: Let's see what he does after that. So we knew

579
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 4: he had the big frame.

580
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 5: And then see stuff like the Cleveland Browns reception and

581
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 5: then his second year he was wearing you know, they

582
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 5: all wear those GPS devices, tracking devices, and there was

583
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 5: some play here in a loss. He had a big

584
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 5: gain and he was moving something like twenty one to

585
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 5: twenty two miles per hour, and is like, goodness, he

586
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 5: has speed. We forget he's a fast guy. Yeah, legitimately

587
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 5: he's a fast guy. But then when you saw him

588
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 5: add in the components of violence after the catch, I'm

589
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 5: gonna call it vac not yack, because he did get yack,

590
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 5: but he also tacked on vack to it. Yeah, he

591
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 5: even got the scepter for angry runs in the game

592
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 5: the season finale at the Colts. Everyone remembers the first

593
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 5: touchdown or you know, to start the game, the seventy

594
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 5: five yarder, But later, I mean he doubled up on

595
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 5: a guy and shoved him into the end zone and

596
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 5: got a big game gear down close to the the

597
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 5: goal line and that got that that vac that scepter

598
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 5: for the angry catch. But I love seeing that was

599
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: not anice lated incident. He was punishing guys after the

600
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 5: catch last year, and it was so much fun to

601
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 5: see because he's the damn nicest guy off the field.

602
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 5: He's always there to interview, He's always going to say something.

603
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 5: He's a stand up guy, win or lose. He's always

604
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 5: going to talk to the press. He's not just a

605
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 5: front runner in that regard. So I am happy. I

606
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 5: am happy to see good people who are good at

607
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 5: what they to do get good rewards for that work,

608
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 5: and it's a happy day for me. I think you

609
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 5: probably echo a lot of those settlements, and I know

610
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 5: you've got some thoughts about Nico as well.

611
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 2: I was so happy when I saw this news. Kind

612
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: of a peep behind a curtain. You know, Mark had

613
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: an event last night, season ticket member of event on

614
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: Tuesday night, so we're recording this on Wednesday, so we

615
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: had that event, so we had to record a little

616
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: bit early, so we got it all set, all done.

617
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: So I'm driving to get food and I look and it.

618
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: Was like the best of the best of times, worse

619
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: at times because I was.

620
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: Like, hell yeah, nikah, oh god, we got to review.

621
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: So we had to like scramble to get that, get

622
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: that done. But we got it done, and then Mark

623
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: went to the event, which was great. By the way.

624
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, when Nico is at the University of Michigan,

625
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: he averaged nearly twenty yards to catch and he led

626
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 2: the Wolverines with seven touchdowns, and I remember thinking, this

627
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 2: dude is on the verge. This guy is about to

628
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: become an absolute superstar. Because quarterbacking at Michigan in nineteen,

629
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: I don't remember it being great.

630
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 4: I can't remieve wasn't what it was in twenty three,

631
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 4: was it?

632
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: No?

633
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: So then COVID hits and I think this is where

634
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: Nico got short change and everybody in the Big ten

635
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: got short change because the Big ten called the season off,

636
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: said no, we're not doing anything. So Nico goes to

637
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: start his draft prep and then weeks later it's like, oh.

638
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: No, no, we're gonna play're gonna play. Everbody come on back

639
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: and back.

640
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: He was like, I've already committed to doing my draft prep,

641
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: so Ron, let me just stick with it.

642
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: So he missed a whole year of football twenty twenty.

643
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: So then in twenty twenty one, banged up, doesn't play

644
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: the entire year, ends up playing fourteen or sixteen games.

645
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: One of those games, like you said, was the Browns

646
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: game where he played one play, caught that slant right

647
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: across the middle, started smoking, dude, smoking dudes, gets tackled,

648
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: lands on the shoulder.

649
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: He's out for a few weeks.

650
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: So I think a lot of people what got frustrated

651
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: for me was a lot of people talking about Nico. Well,

652
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: he's not he's not a number one, he's not this,

653
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: he's not that, And I'm like, let's let's hold off. Yeah,

654
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: because he was injured those two years, and obviously he

655
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: understood what he had to do to get his body right,

656
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: so those things weren't happening.

657
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: He missed all of twenty twenty.

658
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: When he went to the Senior Bowl in twenty twenty one,

659
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: I remember watching him thinking, oh, this was rough, but

660
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: I also knew he was banging off rust.

661
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was the whole year of football and over

662
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: a year.

663
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was well over a year.

664
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Speaker 5: He's late January. Mean it's yeah, thirteen fourteen, really months, right,

665
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 5: And so.

666
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: He hadn't played since that year of twenty nineteen when

667
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: he had thirty seven catches for seven out of twenty

668
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: nine yards. So he's just under twenty yards, it catches

669
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: seven touchdowns and you're like this, this guy can be special. Well,

670
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: then take a whole year off. Not by his own doing.

671
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: He banged up those first couple of years, And obviously

672
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: you said I think there were a number of things

673
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: that kind of unlocked the Nico Collins box. Obviously this

674
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: offense helped I think the focus for Nico.

675
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: And we talked to Nico about this a lot, because we.

676
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: Were asking him earlier this season, like, man, you're really

677
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: doing stuff after the catch? Say, yeah, the coach staff

678
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: really challenged me to catch the ball and turn into

679
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: a runner. And you you bring up that that play,

680
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: and I'm glad you did, because that's the play to

681
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: me that gets forgotten because when you think about that

682
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: Week eighteen game, you think the deep route and then

683
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: you think the one that he came across the field

684
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: where it looked like CJ didn't Yeah, yeah, and he

685
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: lays out and makes that catch, and a lot of.

686
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 5: People think of those two and justifiably so. Yeah, absolutely

687
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 5: tremendous play. Think about that game. That's because you're about

688
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 5: to add in this third one. That's three huge, huge plays,

689
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 5: just one of them alone. You've had a great game, right,

690
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 5: You've had a great game, and he had three of those.

691
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: But I felt like, to me, Play three really encapsulated

692
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: everything about Nico because it showed It showed a couple

693
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: of things. One is comfortability in this offense. Two, it

694
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: showed that vakyak violence. After the catch. Yards after the catch,

695
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: he catches a bubble screen and we were what I

696
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: think of the Colts thirty or something like that, maybe

697
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: closer to the red zone, but he catches.

698
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: A bubble screen.

699
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: And then he showed every for every single asset that

700
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: makes him what he is and why he got paid.

701
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: He runs away from Zaire Franklin and he Franklin dives

702
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: and Nico has to kind of hop out of that

703
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: just a little bit. And then you see the speed

704
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: with which he's turning up the sideline. And then Jalen Jones,

705
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: who was a pretty big corner here's a rookie for

706
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: the Colts, decides he's going to try and tackle and

707
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: take on Nico, and Nico just says no and runs

708
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: him over, knocks Jones out of bounds. It slows Nico

709
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: down obviously. Jones then spins back inbounds. Three yards later,

710
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: Nico runs him over again. A couple of plays later,

711
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: CJ Hitch Andrew Beck for the touchdown that gave the

712
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: Texts a bigger lead in that game.

713
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't remember what his numbers were.

714
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: There was like nine for one ninety or something like that,

715
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: and I just remember the Colts had no idea how

716
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: to stop him, blow him down or whatever. Even a

717
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: big catch, like right before Devin Singletary's touchdown that gave

718
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: us the twenty three to seventeen lead, he hits Nico

719
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: on the glance route. I think Nico got interfered with

720
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: or there was some penalty that got added on top

721
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: of it right, and as another massive catches like every

722
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: catch that game, it's like.

723
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 5: An asterisk two hundred some yard day. Yeah, add that

724
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 5: one in yeh.

725
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: It's it's just amazing what he was, what he was doing.

726
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: He's not a diva. No, he doesn't sit there and

727
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: demand the ball now, John John, John John, he is

728
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: far from that. Okay, we all talked to this time

729
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: of year ago. Really basically at Demico Ryans is intro

730
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: press conference swarm that became a big deal swarm mentality.

731
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: And if you're like me, maybe you're not, But if

732
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: you're like me, the first thing when you think of

733
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: swarming and you think of football, you think, okay, uh,

734
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: it's a running back running with the ball, and then

735
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: a d lineman pops him and then pretty soon and

736
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: stands him up. And then pretty soon you see a

737
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: couple of linebackers and maybe a safety and a corner

738
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: pop in and then they're pushing the pile backwards.

739
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 4: It's a defensive thing.

740
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 5: Well, when Colin Nico Collins is the swarm mentality at

741
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 5: the wide receiver spot, you don't think about wide receivers

742
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 5: and being but what he did on that play, what

743
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 5: he did throughout the season after the catch and using

744
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 5: all his talents and skills, he was a swarm mentality.

745
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 4: I talked about it a little bit with him.

746
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 5: I talked about a little bit about it with him

747
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 5: at the uniform kind of photo shoot that you guys

748
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 5: I was at one night. You guys were the next night,

749
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 5: and he's like, yeah, yeah, you know, and he embraces that,

750
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 5: And I mean, how can you not get excited about

751
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 5: a guy who plays that game, plays a game that way,

752
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 5: does it off the field in a great way. It's

753
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 5: just it's a happy day for me. I'm pumped for him. So,

754
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 5: you know, this is kind of longer story.

755
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: But I for some reason when I went to my

756
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: podcast page and you and I did an into lab

757
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 2: like post game and we did it for the Jaguars. Now,

758
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: for some reason, it was showing that as a podcast

759
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: I needed to listen to.

760
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: And it was after the Jack's home game, the one

761
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: we lost.

762
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 4: He was a close loss here yeah, And.

763
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: I was like, ah, why is it showing me this one? Why?

764
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: There were so many other great ones, like why not

765
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: showed me that one?

766
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but Nico was the player that

767
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: I ended up interviewing after the game, which I just

768
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: I hate doing when we lose a game and I've

769
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: got to talk to a guy.

770
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: I remember talking to Andrew back.

771
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: And Andrew was the greatest, and he was just like, man,

772
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: I just appreciate the softball questions, like, yeah, man, what

773
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: am I gonna ask you after our loss? I was like,

774
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: you know, hey, why did you say I'm not gonna

775
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: ask that? This is not it's not what's but I

776
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: just remember Nico always has that spirit with him. Yeah,

777
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: and he was I said, you know, I saw I

778
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: think it was evert when Hey, we talked to John after.

779
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: Gave me, Hey, they had no problem, I'll talk to him.

780
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 2: And he just answered my question straight up, what do

781
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: you gotta do the following week?

782
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: And it was just his spirit.

783
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: And we got done with the interview and I just,

784
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: you know, shook his hand and I just said, hey, man,

785
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry for that.

786
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: He goes, He's John, I understand, you gotta do your job.

787
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: I get it. We'll be okay. And I was like,

788
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: it was just the reassuring nature of Nico. He's not

789
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: a diva and he's so far from that. When he's

790
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: on the same page with with CJ.

791
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: It is.

792
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: It is magical.

793
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: And when he is making plays after ka, we're seeing

794
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: your OTAs you know. Last week we got to see

795
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: them and it was we got to see him twice

796
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: and it was fantastic to see what they're doing and

797
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: how they communicate and getting on the same page and

798
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: the big plays. I mean, I think the contract is warranted.

799
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 2: I think for people that are like, well you listen,

800
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: contract is paid for what you think a guy is

801
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: going to do. Yeah, And I got a feeling in

802
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: a short amount of time, we're gonna look at that contract. Go, man,

803
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: did we get a steal? And Nico ends up getting

804
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: twenty four million dollars a year, which is gonna you know,

805
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: for the next how many ever years.

806
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna change his life, you know.

807
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: But I just wanted him to stay at Textan because,

808
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: like you said, Drew, he's got that swarm mentality, but

809
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: yet he's on the offensive side, but he's carrying that

810
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: mentality over that side to make sure the offense kind

811
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: of follows exactly what the Miko Ryans, Nick Cassari, everbody's

812
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: organization wanted to be.

813
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 5: And it's cool to see somebody who got here during

814
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 5: the darkest of times. Yes, succeed come through all that,

815
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 5: absolutely great things. Yeah, I'm hump for the guy, and

816
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 5: we're not gonna talk about it today, but you're adding

817
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 5: him or you're not adding him, but he's in there

818
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 5: with Tank Dell, stuff on, Diggs, Dalton Schultz, and I

819
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 5: think there's gonna be one or two other wild cards

820
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 5: who emerge as really productive pass catchers this year that

821
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 5: we're not thinking about initially.

822
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 4: Can't wait, not wait. It's gonna be fun. John.

823
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 5: It's always good to talk with you, especially when it's

824
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 5: a happy subject like this.

825
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 4: Speaking a happy happy birthday gat into my twins.

826
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, happy birthday twins, y'all enjoy it. Man.

827
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: I remember meeting Drews twins for the first time. They

828
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: were little little people in the stroller the summer of

829
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, and now look at him.

830
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: My goodness, Happy birthday Robert and Marie Doherty.

831
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: All right, we get back, Mark and I chopped it

832
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: up about John Metchi and the new kickoff rules. Yeah,

833
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: this is gonna be really interesting this year, no question

834
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: about that. That's next a Texans All Access We All

835
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Speaker 2: One final segment of this edition of Texans All Access

836
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: appreciate you guys being here with me.

837
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: Some great news came down today and c J. Stroud

838
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: won another award.

839
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Speaker 3: C J.

840
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: Stroud was selected as pfwa's Good Guy Award winner.

841
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: CJ.

842
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: Stroud was praised for his dealings with local and national

843
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: media during the previous season. He has been selected as

844
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four Good Guy Award winner by the

845
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: Professional Football Writers of America. So he was the NFL

846
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year, the offensive Rookie of the Year,

847
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: and now he is the Good Guy Award winner.

848
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: CJ said, and I.

849
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: Quote first and foremost, I want to give all Glorian

850
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: praise to my Lord save Jesus Christ. It's a blessing

851
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: to be recognized as the PFWA Good Guy Award winner.

852
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: And it stands out to me because it's more of

853
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 2: an award than embodies someone's character rather than the stats day.

854
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: Compile on the field.

855
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: I appreciate the job the media has and thank them

856
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: for choosing me as someone who is deserving of this honor.

857
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: A special shout out to the other very deserving players

858
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: who were nominated and those that won before me. Those

859
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: players were Joe Patonio from the Cleveland Browns Deon Dawkins

860
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: tack for the Bills, Phiodelphi Eagles defense van Brandon Graham,

861
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: and Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott.

862
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 1: Congratulations to mister C. J. Stroud.

863
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: Now that's the second day in a row that a

864
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 2: Texan has won an award from pf WA. John Metchi

865
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: won that award, and Mark and I talked about it

866
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: on this podcast, and then we decided to talk about

867
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: the kickoff rules. Now that might change things.

868
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: Here we go.

869
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: Great to have you listening as always to Texans All Access.

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00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: Mark Vandermer and John Harris with you one more segment.

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00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: First of all, John Metchi has put in the time

872
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: to get back on the field. We saw it last

873
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: year and he's looking good at OTAs so far. So

874
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 3: let's see where this takes us. But he's been selected

875
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: as the Pro Football Writers' Association's twenty twenty four George

876
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: Hallis Award.

877
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: Winner, and this is great.

878
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 3: This salutes him, acknowledges him, recognizes him for winning his

879
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: battle with leukemia and getting back on the field, and

880
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 3: it's awesome stuff.

881
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: Great to see Metchi winning the honor. Johnny, Yeah, it's

882
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: very cool.

883
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: Second textan to have won the award. David Quisenberry won

884
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: it in twenty seventeen. The last few winners you and

885
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: I were talking about this just going back to twenty

886
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: twenty one, Alex Smith with the Washington football team at

887
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: the time, Ron Rivera the next year with the Washington

888
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: football team. Last year's winner was Deamar Hamlin. This is

889
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: a really I don't know a better word. It probably

890
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: is than cool. This is a really cool award. It

891
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: just kind of tugs at your heartstrings a little bit.

892
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: And knowing what John's been through, what he's you know,

893
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: getting past and hopefully and I know this is probably

894
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: why John feels look just I want to I want

895
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: to be a football player. But still we got to

896
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: recognize the fight that you've gone through and the fight

897
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: that you've won, and the fight that you probably continue

898
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: to fight as you're going through here and now it's

899
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: time to play football. But man, congratulations John Metchit third

900
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: just really cool honor. As Mark said pfw a's twenty

901
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: twenty four George Hollis Award winner, he is, obviously, I

902
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: just said, the second winner after David Quaesenberry won it

903
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, two Texans to have won the award

904
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: in the last eight years.

905
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool, Johnny, I have a semi hot take

906
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 3: on special teams.

907
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: On the kickoff.

908
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 4: Cool, all right.

909
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: So to me, they've dialed down the kickoffs throughout the

910
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: last few years because they want to prevent injury.

911
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: It's not to me, it's to everybody. That's what they

912
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: want to do.

913
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: They want to cut down on the injuries with these

914
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: high speed collisions that were taking place, et cetera. Off correct, correct,

915
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 3: So in doing so, they've basically gotten rid of the kickoff.

916
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: There have been so few actual kickoffs that have gone anywhere.

917
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: You try to kick it inside the five, then they

918
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: put in the fair catch rule. My gosh, you can

919
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: fair catch it at the five, for instance, and get

920
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 3: it at the twenty five.

921
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: You know, what's the.

922
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: Point anyway, So now we have the new rule, the

923
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: five yards apart, thirty to thirty five, right, and you

924
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: kick it inside the twenty five yard line and mayhem ensues.

925
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 3: Now I say mayhem, it's controlled because you're five yards apart.

926
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: You're not that far apart as they were last you know,

927
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 3: what was it dozens of yards apart? It's contact versus collisions. Yeah,

928
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: contact versus collisions. But Johnny, we're gonna have more injuries.

929
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: The injuries during kickoffs will go up dramatically because there

930
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: were probably you know, let's just say it was X

931
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: last year, it's X plus whatever it's gonna be this year.

932
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: Because you have actual contact, you will have injuries. What

933
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 3: do you think here when they start seeing injuries pile up? Now,

934
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: the kickoff is gonna be what I think is a

935
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 3: very exciting play, especially relative to what it was. But

936
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a pretty exciting play because

937
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna.

938
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: Have some big stuffs.

939
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: You're also gonna have some explosives as a result of

940
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: the new kickoff rule, but you are going to have

941
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 3: an increase in injuries.

942
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: Is this going to be okay? With them? Interesting?

943
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: So, I just as you're talking to made me think like, okay,

944
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 2: let me just pick a random game. It's random game.

945
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: So I picked one from last year. I picked the

946
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: Cardinals Texas Cardinals from last year. Okay, okay, So there

947
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: were eight kickoffs eight How many returns do you think

948
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 2: there were?

949
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: One? Yeah, very good one game one one return.

950
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: Now, any kickoff return prior to twenty twenty four. Man,

951
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: it's I'm telling you, they're so scary. I howe my

952
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: breath every single time because when you see some of

953
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: those collisions and you hear them, you're like, oh, my gosh,

954
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: that was one of eight. Now, obviously you're not gonna

955
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: have that type of collision, but you are gonna have

956
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: contact on seven more plays. Yeah, averages tell you seven

957
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: more plays times seventeen games, you're looking anywhere from one

958
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: hundred one hundred and twenty five more plays where you

959
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: have contact and collisions. You're gonna have injuries and you're

960
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: gonna Yeah, absolutely, you're gonna have it. Now.

961
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be exciting. That kickoff return is gonna be exciting.

962
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 2: But I'm curious to see how how it continues to evolve,

963
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: Like we know what it can look like now, but

964
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 2: how is it gonna continue to evolve Because anything new,

965
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, we're gonna test this out. We'll see

966
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: how this goes well. I like this, Oh I don't

967
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: like this. Oh maybe we should tweak this. I'm very

968
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: curious what the NFL does because this was only a

969
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: one year deal. This was not accepted permanently, right, It's

970
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: a one year. The competition committee said one year, right, yeah,

971
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: so test it out, see where it goes.

972
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, I don't know if we're gonna

973
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: end up having.

974
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: The it's the right way of saying, the injuries that

975
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: result from those massive head on collisions from twenty twenty

976
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 2: five yards apart. But I do think because you are

977
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: adding one hundred to one hundred and twenty five roughly

978
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: for a team per year, that much more contact on

979
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: those particular plays, Yeah, you're gonna have You're gonna have

980
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: more injuries.

981
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: Kick off, touch back, Hey, we're touching.

982
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 2: There's nobody even touching each other, just kind of running

983
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: in that direction and a way you go.

984
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: So I do I do agree with you.

985
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: I think the injuries are going to be there, but

986
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 2: I think they're probably gonna be of a nature that's

987
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: more in the general flow of football, as opposed to

988
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: this car crashwaiting to happen on a normal kickoff.

989
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: You know, I always sometimes joke about how teams might

990
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 3: have spies stationed as fans during training camp open practices

991
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: to have a look at the other team. Yeah, I

992
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: think that this would be a good time to do it.

993
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: It would because.

994
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: We're gonna have you said that, We're gonna have a

995
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: week Let's see, the Texans will have two weeks before

996
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame game. There will be a week

997
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 3: overlap because everybody else is going to open camp a

998
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: week later, right because the Hall of Fame games a

999
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 3: week earlier than the first preseason game. But there's gonna

1000
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 3: be a whole lot of mystery around this, and different

1001
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 3: teams are going to handle it differently, definitely, and they're

1002
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: gonna want to have a look at how the Joneses

1003
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 3: are doing it. Yep, so I don't mean Jerry Jones.

1004
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: So there's gonna be a lot of curiosity. It's almost like, hey, then.

1005
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 1: Is now allowed.

1006
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: You would want to see how other teams are using

1007
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 3: this shotgun formation. That's kind of what it's like to

1008
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: Frank Ross and special teams coordinators around the league. They

1009
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 3: had that curiosity, I'm sure, and those guys all know

1010
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 3: each other, so I bet they're talking absolutely, well, oh absolutely, John.

1011
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: Stuff in the back of a napkin, creating Hey can

1012
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: we do this? Can we get away with this? It's

1013
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: it's kind of amazing. Here's the other one. And I'll

1014
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: bring this up because I saw something the other night.

1015
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if there will be an influence from other sports,

1016
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: because I'm seeing football have an influence on other sports,

1017
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: as in basketball. Did you see the end of the

1018
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: Pacer Celtics Game three? The Pacers were down three and

1019
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: they were going to the bucket.

1020
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: The basket to the right.

1021
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: Everybody was stationed, the four Pacers were all stationed to

1022
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: the left. It looked like they were in eleven personnel,

1023
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: like it was a trips wide situation. And then all

1024
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you saw them running basically a pastra.

1025
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: You see that you see every week in the NFL.

1026
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 2: Two guys run, they clear out vertically. Nie Smith comes

1027
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: underneath that Celtics defenders picked off. It was brilliant. It

1028
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: was absolutely brilliant. And I guarantee you the Pacers got

1029
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: that from football. So I wonder how that will be

1030
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: will you will you steal something from some other sport

1031
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 2: that you've seen that you might be able to incorporate

1032
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: on those kickoffs rugby? It certainly will be intriguing to

1033
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: see where teams pull their ideas from for these kickoffs,

1034
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. Hey, tomorrow we'll be out at Ota,

1035
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: so we'll break them all down on Thursday nights All

1036
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: Access Show. You should have the General with us as well,

1037
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: so plenty to do tomorrow. Big thanks to Drew, Brenda

1038
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: lab to Mark for being with me, to all of

1039
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: you for listening. We'll see them aorrow, everybody, and as always,

1040
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: go Texans,