1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: So which players flashed in the preseason opener. There were 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: plenty on both sides of the wall, and several rookies, 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: which is really encouraging. Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Zach Ershman joins me, we look back at Saturday's game. 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: The outcome aside, there was a lot to like. Clayton 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: Toone commanded the offense, Michael Carter, Ranwell, Darius Robinson, Xavier Thomas, 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: a couple of rookies were disruptive, and Dadrian Taylor Emerson 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: aka Rabbit lived up to his nickname. It's Cardinals Cover two, 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: episode seven eighty two, and it starts now. 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: Boona Baker, What Heart? 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 4: What rent? 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable. 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again. 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: Some more Hurry magic. 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: Wow. 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: Here's Craig Krailer. 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: So the good thing about games on Saturday is that 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: you do get that twenty four hour period to kind 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: of collect your thoughts, maybe even watch the game back again, 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: as opposed to end season Zach, where it's a Sunday 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: and immediately you're back in here on Monday with just 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: your initial thoughts. But we can do all that here 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 3: We know the. 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: Outcome sixteen to fourteen. Cardinals lose with the Saints on 31 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: a field goal with five seconds to left. The disappointment 32 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: though from head coach Jonathan Gannon, he wants to win 33 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: no matter what is, whether that's preseason, regular season, so 34 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: you could hear the disappointment and his voice on postgame. 35 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: But I'll say this, overall, I thought it was a 36 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: solid effort considering how many of the players that we 37 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: expect to see week one did not suit up. 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: What was there? 39 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 5: Only twenty eight players did not play in this game. 40 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: That's a big difference. That's both sides of the ball. 41 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 5: You did not have really outside of let's say this 42 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 5: maybe on the defensive side with the Roy Lopez and 43 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 5: nose tackle and potentially Starling Thomas at cornerback. 44 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: Outside of that, and then if. 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 5: You want to consider Darius Robinson and Marvin Harrison Junior 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 5: playing outside that none of your starters were out on 47 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 5: the field. So it was a very encouraging sign to 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 5: see how this team was able to stay in it 49 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 5: with a Saints' first team offense and a first team 50 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 5: defense for as long as they did, especially considering as 51 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 5: I just mentioned, it wasn't your starters out there. 52 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: A slow start, to say the least, the game opened 53 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: with seven straight punts before the Cardinals failed on fourth 54 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: and one at their own forty seven yard line, again 55 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: trailing at the half six to nothing. The Cardinals did 56 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: take a seven to six lead and then a fourteen 57 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: thirteen lead with a minute fifty five to go. I thought, 58 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: Clayton toon, let's start right there. The quarterback two battle, 59 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: the backup competition, and we have been talking about at 60 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: least through training camp. We know what the depth chart 61 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: said coming into the preseason opener, Desmond Ridder two Clayton 62 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: Tune three. But if you had been out at State 63 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium for Cards camp, it did appear, least from 64 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: my vantage point, that Tune was just a little bit ahead, 65 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: and after the preseason game, maybe Tune extended his lead 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: over Desmond Ridder. 67 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 5: Well, you could chalk up the training camp battle to 68 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 5: the familiarity with the playbook because Clayton's already going to 69 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 5: his second year in the system, and Dez spoke about 70 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 5: that a little bit during the week about how he 71 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 5: is still trying to pick up the playbook and how 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 5: he does lean on Clayton for that advice. Even though 73 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 5: Clayton's only in his second season going into the sophomore 74 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 5: year right now in the NFL, Desmond still looks at 75 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 5: him as a veteran in that room because he does 76 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 5: have familiarity with Izzy Woolfork, with Drew Petsing and the 77 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 5: schemes and the play calls that they like. In the 78 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 5: game on Saturday, you could definitely tell that Clayton tune was. 79 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 5: That gap between the two of them definitely separated a 80 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 5: little bit more for that QB two battle because it 81 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 5: is a competition. You never want to see them out there, 82 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 5: but you need to be confident once they are out there. 83 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 5: If they ever were. 84 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: Clayton played with confidence, look comfortable in the offense, operating 85 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: in the pocket. Postgame, I thought his comments were telling, 86 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: mentioning that he was quote seeing the defense well. He played, 87 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: in his words, more decisive, with the football and then 88 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: you hear what Jag had to say, good command, played 89 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: fast and that's what I think you want to see 90 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: out of your backup quarterback. The production aside, and we've 91 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: got numbers to show you that. Yeah, Clayton Tune performed 92 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: better than Desmond Ridder, But I keep going back to 93 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: what offensive coordinator Joe Petsing said about the competition. It's 94 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: not all about the numbers, it's how do you look 95 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: operating in the offense? Is the ball going where it's 96 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: supposed to go, regardless if it's caught or not. And 97 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: Tune in the second half certainly looked better at placing 98 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: the ball where it needed to be, more so than 99 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: Desmond Redder. 100 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 5: I'm sure part of that's also having the opportunity to 101 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 5: watch from the sideline a little bit, seeing how the 102 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 5: game develops, and then going in their no knowing that 103 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 5: you're about to start in the second half. So he's 104 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 5: looking at different schemes at the Saints defense are implementing, 105 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 5: seeing what Desmond Ritter is facing, whether it comes to 106 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 5: pressure or coverages and whatnot. But he did have command 107 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 5: of that huddle, and on TV broadcast they showed multiple 108 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 5: shots of him talking in the huddle giving out the play, 109 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 5: but you could see the way the look in his eyes. 110 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 5: He was convinced that that was his huddle. And to 111 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 5: see that in a second year quarterback who hasn't had 112 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 5: an opportunity to command the huddle outside of training camp 113 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 5: since that game against Cleveland Browns, it was very encouraging 114 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 5: because he could have been very discouraged after that game 115 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 5: in Cleveland, but he told us that he's even more 116 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 5: confident than ever after that game, and we were able 117 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 5: to see glimpses of it on display. 118 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: On Saturday, Clayton Tune finished fifteen of twenty four for 119 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty three yards and a touchdown that 120 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: went to Tony Jones Junior again with a minute fifty 121 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: five to play, that was the go ahead score. Unfortunately, 122 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals not able to maintain the lead and they 123 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: lose the game. Now, Desmond Ritter did get the start 124 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: and did play against the Saints' first team defense. We 125 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: expect and we'll hear from Jonathan Gannon later this week 126 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: as far as what is the plan for this week 127 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. We assume that Desmond Ritter got the start 128 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: in the preseason opener that we will see Clayton Tune 129 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: start against the Indianapolis Colts and as well as Tone 130 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: played in the second half. Yes, it's against backups, third 131 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: team players. Okay, can you stack performances like that now 132 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: going up against perhaps better quality opponent as far as 133 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the players that the Colts put on the field, and 134 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 1: then those two joint practices Wednesday and Thursday, can Tomb 135 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: continue to stack good performances out on the football field? 136 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 6: Yea. 137 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 5: I'm not sure what Shane Stiken is going to do 138 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 5: for the game, the preseason game, but those training camp 139 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 5: practices when you're going against first team defenses, second team defenses, 140 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 5: are definitely going to be important. And we also know 141 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 5: that if Clayton were to get to start in this 142 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 5: game against against the Colts, then you're automatically going to 143 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 5: be facing better competition than what you just face in 144 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 5: the Saints third and fourth string defenses. So it is 145 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 5: a matter of stacking those those performances. Going the fifteen 146 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 5: for twenty fourths, he did for one hundred and sixty 147 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 5: three yards at one touchdown pass to Tony Jones Junior. 148 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 5: As you mentioned, Craig was a really solid first outing, 149 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 5: but it's building off of that and showing that it 150 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 5: wasn't just a one time thing because he had moments 151 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 5: in the game against Minnesota in the preseason finale last 152 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 5: year where Clayton did look really good. Now he's got 153 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 5: to continue that. He can't just be a preseason quarterback. 154 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 5: But it does start in the preseason. 155 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: For Tesmond Ridder, five possessions, four of nine, forty three yards. 156 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: The numbers do not look good. I think they would 157 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: have looked a heck of a lot better, say, if 158 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: the Trey Benson nineteen yard catch wasn't negated because of 159 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: an ineligible man downfield and Isaiah Adams Blake Whiteheart had 160 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: a pass go through his hands and something that JG 161 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: brought up postgame one, they couldn't sustain drives, they were 162 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: not getting first downs, and then there wasn't great pass protection. 163 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: The words that JAG mentioned were a little leaky and 164 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: if you watch it back, which I did on Sunday, 165 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: especially on that left side with Isaiah Adams and Elijah 166 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: Wilkinson really struggling against the Saints' first team defense and 167 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: just unable to allow Desmond Ritder to do anything in 168 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: the pocket. As far as set his feet and really 169 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: scan the field to get the ball to his playmakers. 170 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 5: Well, it was very exciting also to see Christian Jones, 171 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 5: your fifth round tackle out of Texas. He had to 172 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 5: go up against Chase Young for a possession or two. 173 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 5: I thought he looked really solid. Tip Ryman locked up 174 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 5: Chase Young on a run play, which was really exciting 175 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 5: to see because you got to see a little bit 176 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 5: of that maller side of Tip Briman and listening back 177 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 5: to the broadcast, Wolf and Pass were definitely loving everything 178 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 5: that tip Ryman was bringing. 179 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: To the table. 180 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 5: Yes, it was a little bit leaky, and you're moving 181 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 5: things around, You're moving around different pieces. You want to 182 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 5: see what you have out of your third round pick 183 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 5: in Isaiah Adams at guard. You're trying different things. You're 184 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 5: experimenting with bringing Elijah Wilkinson to tackle, and he was 185 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 5: on both the left side and right side. The leaky 186 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 5: aspect of it, Yes, it was definitely the case. But 187 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 5: I think also with Desmond it was trying to connect 188 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 5: with his wide receivers and looking down the field that 189 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 5: he just did not have as much time to look 190 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 5: through his different options. But he did have in the 191 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 5: first half in general, they only had four first downs, 192 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 5: and you got to be able to move the ball downfield, 193 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 5: even with the run game, even with the run game, 194 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 5: and they really didn't have the chance to do that, 195 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 5: only four first downs in that first half. And then 196 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 5: Clayton Tunes first drive of the second half, they had 197 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 5: four first downs in just that one drive. So there's 198 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 5: and once again, different competition, but you want to see 199 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 5: both your run game and your pass game being able 200 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 5: to move the ball down the field. 201 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: By the way, the Cardinals first first down didn't come 202 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: until early in the second quarter, about the ten point 203 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: fifty mark. The good news for both quarterbacks no turnovers 204 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: and that's number one as far as a backup quarterback. 205 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: Can you command the offense? Can you move the football 206 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: but do not turn the ball over? So that was 207 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: good see from both quarterbacks. Now the run game you 208 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: brought it up. Let's kind of transition there, because this 209 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: is something that we've been talking about for a while. Now, 210 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: what does this team do in that running backs room? 211 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: One hundred and forty five yards on the ground led 212 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: by Michael Carter forty one yards seven carries averaged just 213 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: under six yards a touch. Zach gets something that we 214 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: saw a year ago in his limited touches when he 215 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: was claimed off waivers from the Jets, And now all 216 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: of a sudden, there is a growing sentiment around the 217 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: Bird gang that, okay, we are deep at running back. 218 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: You can't afford to allow good players leave your building, 219 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: but can you keep four five running backs on this team? 220 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 5: Let alone good players, good people. After the touchdown Tony Jones, 221 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 5: they showed up to the TV broadcast and they were 222 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 5: reviewing it. Who was the first player celebrating it was 223 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 5: Michael Carter and he jumped on Tony Jones Junior's back 224 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 5: just to celebrate with him. And I asked him after 225 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 5: the game. He talked about the camaraderie and the connection. 226 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 5: He said to the media, I wish you guys could 227 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 5: see what goes on in our meeting rooms because we 228 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 5: just have so much fun. We love one another. And 229 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 5: I asked him, does that allow you to play more free? 230 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 5: And he's like, I wouldn't necessarily say that, but by 231 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 5: default it does a little bit. Because you know that 232 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 5: this is a competition battle, it's not going to be personal, 233 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 5: but we all love each other. We're all trying to 234 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 5: help one another out. I mean, I think back to 235 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 5: Trey Benson. You draft him, what happens. Who's the first 236 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 5: player that gives him a call? It's Michael Carter. You 237 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 5: don't want these people to leave your building because you 238 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 5: also know that, as you mentioned, they make an impact 239 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 5: on the field. And Michael Carter just adds such a 240 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 5: spark to this offense, let alone too this locker room. 241 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 5: He is able to be so agile. He's very shifty. 242 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 5: Even in that touchdown run, he got hit in the 243 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 5: end zone, did a little helicopter right away, gets up 244 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 5: and celebrates. But you are very deep in that running 245 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 5: back room. Even Tony Jones Junior had a really solid game. 246 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 5: DJ Dallas had a handful of reps. He had one 247 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 5: really nice run that was brought back for a holding penalty. 248 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 5: You're very deep in that room. That's a credit to 249 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 5: Audrey Denson as well. 250 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: The topic that touchdown run, it was third and sixth 251 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: the first drive coming out of the locker room. So 252 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: Clayton Tune is your starting quarterback to begin the second half, 253 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals trailing six to nothing, and that run really was 254 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: all Michael Carter. It was the middle. It looked like 255 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: it was designed to go up the middle and it 256 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: was jammed. He saw daylight to his right and scored. 257 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: And that's what you like to see from your running back, 258 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: is the vision, because yeah, you have a plan in place, 259 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: but if something doesn't happen the way you expected to, 260 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: all right, what do you do as a backup? And 261 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: I thought it was a great read by Michael to 262 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: bounce it out to the right and then cut to 263 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: the middle, and he was basically an untouched That's. 264 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 5: The veteran mindset right there, of somebody that's able to 265 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 5: jump in and you know, run down the field and 266 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 5: see a hole and make the most of it. Going 267 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 5: down into his fourth season in the league, so he's 268 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 5: had a handful of and that run also looked very 269 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 5: similar to the run against Pittsburgh, that big third and 270 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: nineteen yard run that he had to get to first 271 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 5: down and keep the Cardinals drive alive down there in 272 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 5: the Steel City because he was going up the middle, 273 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 5: moved out to the right side and then moved over 274 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 5: to the left and gave a little juke move and 275 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 5: was able to break free. That's what the touchdown kind 276 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 5: of reminded me of a little bit, Craig. 277 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: Michael Carter again, finished with forty one rushing yards on 278 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: seven carries. He was a guest post game of Paul 279 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: Calvic and Jay Feeley. Let's hear some of that conversation. 280 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 6: Tell us how you felt you looked regular season ready? 281 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: How'd you feel? 282 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 7: Yeah, Man, first of all, I just want them. God, 283 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 7: I think I've been working so hard in the offseason. 284 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 7: It's you know, the main thing is it's about, you know, 285 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 7: making it translate to the game. And I feel like 286 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 7: we didn't win today. Obviously we want to win, but 287 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 7: I felt good today. Personally. I think our guys did 288 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 7: good at the front as well, so you gotta watching it. 289 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 7: I kind of don't know how we looked, but I 290 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 7: felt good, and I feel like we look good in moments. 291 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 7: We got to be consistent. 292 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 4: Michael, I thought you guys came out in the second 293 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 4: half and looked looked much better. You looked explosive in 294 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 4: a different way than I've even seen you, which is 295 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 4: an excellent thing. You were talking about how hard you 296 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 4: worked in the off season. What kind of things did 297 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 4: you specifically work on. 298 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the first half of the summer, I 299 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 7: feel like I kind of I kind of uh went back. 300 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 7: I went back to the University of North Carolina to 301 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 7: trained with aj Blue, one of the strength staff coaches, 302 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 7: and we just kind of relay the foundation that I 303 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 7: have coming out of school and then came to o T. 304 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 7: When I left OTAs, I went down to Miami and 305 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,479 Speaker 7: trained with Tevin Allen, Golfy Gooble, and then uh Pete Bamrito, 306 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 7: And the second half of the summer was basically, you know, 307 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 7: all football. The first half of the summer was strength 308 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 7: and second half of the summer was pretty much all football. 309 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 7: So I feel like it worked for me and I'm 310 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 7: excited to see if it still works. 311 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 6: So tell us about the touchdown run. Michael Carter is 312 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 6: our guest. Eleven yard touchdown run. What was the play 313 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 6: call and then how did it develop? 314 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was just inside zone. I kind of seen 315 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 7: the front and and I kind of was like, oh, 316 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 7: this might be a touchdown here, and I was I 317 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 7: was I kind of anticipated to hitting you know that. 318 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 7: You know when you run inside zone, it's such a 319 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 7: tricky run sometimes because it can hit anywhere. But I 320 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 7: felt it out, you know, out the front side, and 321 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 7: then uh, my man's GP had me locked up on 322 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 7: the outside, so I was able to do a good 323 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 7: job of getting a zone. 324 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 6: Not everybody can be the size of James Connor, right, 325 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 6: the whole crammed vertical. Right, But tell us about how 326 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 6: comfortable are you running it between the tackles? 327 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I feel the home in between 328 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 7: the tackles. I've been able to you know, keep it. 329 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 7: I'll be honest. You know, I had a funny story 330 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 7: with our runner back coach. You know, I didn't really 331 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 7: know that I was like an undersized player until mel 332 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 7: Kiper said it going to the draft. And that's okay. 333 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 7: I mean, mel Coper just doing a job, But I 334 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 7: didn't really you know, and mentally, I just didn't know that. 335 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 7: So I feel comfortable. I wish I would have got 336 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 7: that that third and short, but you know, you live 337 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 7: at Eiler. 338 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: It's always the plays that aren't made that stick with 339 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: a player post game. But if you're Michael Carter, you 340 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: have to like how you performed. Now, just like with 341 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: a Clayton tune, can you repeat those performances and make 342 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: what is already a tough decision even tougher for Monty 343 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,239 Speaker 1: Austin Ford and Jonathan Gannet. 344 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 5: Even going to the Cardinals' last offensive drive outside of 345 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 5: the one Hail Mary to Tajon Palmer. At the very end, 346 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 5: Clayton Tune said, hindsight's twenty twenty. When you look at 347 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 5: the clock management there, you want to score a touchdown 348 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 5: as they did with Tony Jones Junior. But you gave 349 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 5: the Saints the minut fifty five and for Spencer Ratler 350 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 5: to drive down the field with his team out there, 351 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 5: So hindsight's very twenty twenty. But yes, it is about it. 352 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 5: It's a matter of stacking the stacking the wins. Even 353 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 5: though it wasn't a win and the win loss column, 354 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 5: it was a win for Clayton Tune getting out there 355 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 5: and putting on a really strong performance. It was a 356 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 5: win for Michael Carter to make the most of his 357 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 5: opportunities out on the field because you don't know what 358 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 5: the depth chart is going to shake out to be 359 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 5: come that first week in Buffalo. And that word opportunity 360 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 5: is key because when you are out on that football field, 361 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 5: what are you doing? And I point to another star 362 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 5: on the offensive side of the ball before we transition 363 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 5: to the defense. Wide receiver Dan Chisena targeted five times, 364 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 5: caught five passes for sixty three yards. He was favorite 365 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 5: of Clayton tune in the second half and open up 366 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 5: some eyes. Now again a depth player on that wide 367 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 5: receiver room. But hey, it beats the alternative because, as 368 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 5: we hear, and we'll say it a lot over the 369 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 5: next several weeks, it's not just trying to get the 370 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 5: fifty three man roster here with the Arizona Cardinals. There 371 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 5: are thirty one other teams that are looking at tape. 372 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 5: They don't have practice tape, they have game tape, and 373 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 5: they might look at this second half against the Saints 374 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 5: and point to Dan Send and say, hey, there might 375 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 5: be something in him. He's got good size, he's got 376 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 5: a big target, and he's where he's supposed to be 377 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 5: when the ball is thrown. That's when I asked Sean 378 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 5: Murphy bonding when he spoke. I asked him about if 379 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 5: you remember his first preseason game, and what would his 380 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 5: message be to the younger players, the first year, the 381 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 5: second year players that are playing in some of their 382 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 5: first preseason action. And he said, exactly what you just 383 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 5: said there, Craig. He said, this is an audition not 384 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 5: just for the Cardinals, but for every team in the NFL, 385 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 5: to show exactly what you're made of, to show that 386 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 5: you're coachable, to show that when the lights are bright, 387 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 5: you can make a play out there. And Dan Senna 388 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 5: did exactly that. The pass that was thrown down from 389 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 5: Clayton Tune that was right above his shoelaces and he 390 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 5: was able to go down and make that grab and 391 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 5: get up and there were multiple moments is where the 392 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 5: yards after catch was looking so good for him. It 393 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 5: was really encouraging to see because you look at Dan 394 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 5: Senna and a lot of fans might have been like, 395 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 5: who is that guy? We might have only seen him 396 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 5: on special teams, and last year you did only see 397 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 5: him on special teams in that gunner role. But he 398 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 5: has really shown what he could do. He's a quick 399 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 5: wide receiver. The speed has been one of the top 400 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 5: traits of his game. But he showed that his hands 401 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 5: are good too. Three of his five catches came on 402 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 5: third down. A thirteen yard reception, there, a six yard reception, 403 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 5: and a twenty seven yard reception. So again, you need 404 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 5: to move the six who you're throwing the ball to. Now, 405 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 5: once the regular season comes round, you're gonna be looking 406 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 5: for number eighteen. I think there might have been a 407 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 5: little bit of a disappointment for the Bird gang that 408 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 5: were in a ten or watching the game on Saturday night. Yes, 409 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison Junior was on the field for all of 410 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 5: three snaps, a run play, a sack, another run play, 411 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 5: and it did seem odd why you would put him 412 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 5: out there, But Jonathan Gannon asked and answered it postgame, saying, hey, 413 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 5: we wanted to make sure he got his game day routine, 414 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 5: to figure it out. What it was like to go 415 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 5: from the hotel to the stadium, to get dressed, to 416 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 5: go part of pregame, mormus, go back into the locker room, 417 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 5: come out for that national anthem, come out for that 418 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 5: first series, and then just get your feet wet. I 419 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 5: don't think he experienced the speed of the game or 420 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 5: anything like that, but just to kind of get that 421 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 5: routine on what a week one, what a Sunday in 422 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 5: the NFL is like. To go back to what you 423 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 5: just said, though in a third down situation, you're gonna 424 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 5: throw to Marvin Harrison Junior, But what is the one 425 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 5: trait that he and a lot of his other receivers 426 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 5: in the room sharre in common and it's their height, 427 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 5: Dan Chasena six ' to three, Marvin Harrison Junior sixty three, 428 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 5: six y four. You have that, you have a type 429 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 5: as well, as we talked about all throughout free agency 430 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 5: and the draft process. There's those big, tall, wide receivers 431 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 5: that have a really strong builds and you know you 432 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 5: could throw the ball up on big time playing they're 433 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 5: gonna come down and make the grab. So that's the similarity. 434 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 5: If there's any sentence, if there was ever a time 435 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 5: that you could clip a sentence that said Marvin Harrison 436 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 5: Junior and Dan Chisena have similarities outside of the fact 437 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 5: that they both played in the Big Ten. Outside of that, 438 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 5: there really isn't much beyond their height. But yes, obviously 439 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 5: you would have loved to have seen Desien Rader drop 440 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 5: back and sling one to Marvin Harrison Junior seventy five 441 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 5: yards down the field and then see that clip week 442 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 5: in and week out, But you know that that's not 443 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 5: always going to happen, and they wanted to get him 444 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 5: the ball. Johnathangana said that, but the situation based off 445 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 5: of where they had to kick off. On top of that, 446 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 5: then you have the run plays in the sack that 447 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 5: pushes you back, and then you just need to get 448 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 5: out of that end zone because it's not just a 449 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 5: matter of giving Marvin the Rockets, a matter of also 450 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 5: winning that football game, and you're not going to force 451 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 5: anything but getting that game day routine done. Going out 452 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 5: there stretching with his teammates, everybody was dressed. Kyler Murray 453 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 5: was dressed, Michael Wilson was draft the entire first team 454 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 5: offensive line was dressed during warm ups, and then you 455 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: see them all trop back out once the team's announced 456 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 5: and there most of them are in street clothes. But 457 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 5: to get that process done, it's super important. You wonder 458 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 5: if it would have been different if that first possession 459 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 5: on offense didn't start at the ten yard line, if 460 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 5: it was at the twenty five or the thirty five 461 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 5: yard line, might we have seen something more from eighteen 462 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 5: and just that offense overall? 463 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 6: All? 464 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: Right, So that's kind of the offensive big takeaways that 465 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: we have from Saturday Night's loss to the New Orleans Saints. 466 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: What about defense? What stood out to you defensively looking 467 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: back at that game. 468 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 5: That the cornerback room is a lot deeper than I 469 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 5: even thought because you look at Darren Hall I thought 470 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 5: Darren Hall had a fantastic game. He was flying all 471 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 5: over the field. Starling Thomas continued to show what he's 472 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 5: able to bring to the table. I thought Keith Trell 473 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 5: Clark had some moments or he looked really good. There 474 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 5: was at one play on third down or he was 475 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 5: trying to punch the ball away from Chris o'lave, and 476 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 5: Chris o'lave showed why he's a really solid wide receiver, 477 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 5: a Pro Bowl caliber type wide receiver because he was 478 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 5: able to still maintain possession of that. But I thought 479 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 5: the cornerback room looked really solid. In the defensive line, 480 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 5: they were generating pressure. Xavier Thomas looked really good. I 481 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 5: could go through the entire defense, it seems, and it's 482 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 5: encouraging because they contained that Saints first team offense, especially 483 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 5: that offensive line. They had their offensive line out for 484 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 5: more than just the two possessions that Derek Carr was 485 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 5: out there for, and they were still able to cast 486 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 5: some pressure. 487 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: Back there when Derek Carr was on the field. The 488 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: Cardinals limited car and that first team Saints offense to 489 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: just eighteen yards on nine plays. And shout out to 490 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: Jesse Luketta LJ. Collier for snuffing out a screen. Tyreek 491 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: Smith showed some pressure off the edge, Dante Stills with 492 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: some inside pressure, and Darius Robinson, Hey, we saw a 493 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: lot more of him than maybe we anticipated. But he 494 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: was on on that football field and got to tackle 495 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: on the game's first play, a holding penalty, and just 496 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: seem to get off the ball really quick. And it 497 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: goes back to what we saw in training camp when 498 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: the pads came on and the talk on the sideline 499 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: fifty six is going to be a problem, and he 500 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: was a handful for the Saints. 501 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 5: It was exciting to see him make that first play. 502 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 5: When they said it, you couldn't really see it because 503 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 5: from where we are positioning the press box, you really 504 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 5: just get the call from the PA system and they 505 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 5: say who makes the tackle, and you're able to see 506 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 5: you hear fifty six Robinson makes the tackle, and I 507 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 5: smiled because for all to talk about Marvin Harrison Junior 508 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 5: being the Cardinals first round pick and kind of the 509 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 5: guy you then go to and Maxim Mountain and then 510 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 5: you go to a Tip Riman and you look at 511 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 5: these positions where they're a little bit more flashy, they're 512 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 5: a little bit more out there, you start to forget 513 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 5: a little bit about what Darius Robinson could bring to 514 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 5: the table. And just when you start to forget, just 515 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 5: when all the conversations where Marvin Harrison Junior is gonna 516 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 5: be playing in the game, Darius Robinson, your other first 517 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 5: round pick, is the one that goes and makes the 518 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 5: tackle right away. And there's ten snaps out there. He 519 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 5: looks really good. Brian Baldinger did a really nice breakdown 520 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 5: of Darius Robinson and in those ten snaps showing how 521 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 5: go Starting in that second play, they already started to 522 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 5: double team him a little bit. He's generating double teams 523 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 5: Craig in his second play of the preseason. It's impressive. 524 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 5: In for Dave Pash who said he's going to be 525 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 5: a problem out there when we are standing next to 526 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 5: him on the sidelines, Dave. 527 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: Pash's gonna be right. 528 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: It's fun to know that, yeah, you have someone that 529 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: can disrupt another team's offensive line and ultimately disrupt that 530 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: offense overall. So if we don't see Darius Robinson this 531 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: week against the Colts, and obviously probably not against the Broncos, 532 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: but those two joint practices on Wednesday and Thursday. But 533 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: outside of that, I've seen enough of what Darius Robinson 534 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: is capable of doing. There was a question though going 535 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: into this game, and it's gonna be a question all 536 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: season long. As far as that pass rush, I mentioned 537 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: Tyreek Smith showing some pressure about Xavier Thomas recording the 538 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: only sack with a nice inside move. There was a 539 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: there was a play earlier in which he had a 540 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: bull rush move on the right tackle, forcing the tackle 541 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: into the quarterback. But Xavier Thomas, the fifth round pick 542 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: out of Clemson, a sack, two quarterback kits and a 543 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: tackle for loss, as JG said postgame, caught my eye, 544 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: and that's what you want from someone who's trying to 545 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: make a name for themselves amongst this twelve member draft class. 546 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: Did I call it? Yes? You did? I called it. 547 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: My Bagel order called it. 548 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: But no, no, you want to explain to everyone that 549 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: missed the conversation in the press box ahead of the game. 550 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: Very fair. I will do that. 551 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 5: Before the game began, we were on the pregame show 552 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 5: and we were talking about who can we expect to 553 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 5: see flash a little bit, especially in the pass rushroom, 554 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 5: And earlier that morning on Saturday, I went to go 555 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 5: get my bagel, as I know I really like to 556 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 5: do from cross the street at Bagels and Bali's. And 557 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 5: when I went out there, my order number was fifty 558 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 5: four and I said, hmmm, Xavier Thomas is going to 559 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 5: have a really good game. 560 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 3: And then he gets the sacked. And what I do. 561 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 5: I look over to Craig ow in the press box 562 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 5: and I smile, because of course I did. Xavier Thomas 563 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 5: looked fantastic though the fifth round pick we were. He 564 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 5: had a slow ramp up and once again he's one 565 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 5: of those players where it's very similar to Darius Robinson. Well, 566 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 5: once you get the pads on, you start to see 567 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 5: their physicality and their high motor and intensity that they 568 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 5: play with, you start to see it flash a little 569 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 5: bit more. And he looked really solid out there. I 570 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 5: thought Jesse Luketto looked very quick. I thought Victor d 571 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 5: Mucagee he got his hand up on that one deflection 572 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 5: in the beginning of the game where it was a 573 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 5: near interception to just with how high the football went 574 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 5: up there, but I thought you had it was very encouraging. 575 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 5: Cam Thomas made a couple of really nice tackles. But 576 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 5: Tyreek Smith also definitely shined you a little bit. He 577 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 5: was brought in mid season last year, didn't really see 578 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 5: much playing time, was a healthy scratch for a handful 579 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 5: of games, but he had no problem. And once again, 580 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 5: it's not a matter of the sacks. We talk a 581 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 5: lot about the sacks, but these sacks get you paid, 582 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 5: but it's also causing pressure and forcing the quarterback to 583 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 5: move around the a little bit more. And that's exactly 584 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 5: what happened in this one pass. 585 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: Singled out Tyreek Smith on the broadcast as one of 586 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: those players because you lose a b Jo Jolari and 587 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: now the question is, okay, who's going to be your guy? Now, 588 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: maybe the Cardinals don't have that double digit sack artist, 589 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: but do they have someone that can consistently get into 590 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: the backfield and make that quarterback uncomfortable and does an 591 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: improved defensive line and maybe a better secondary. Now, all 592 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden, that quarterback is throwing the ball a 593 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: little bit quicker. Maybe they wanted to hang on to it, 594 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: let that those let the playmakers kind of figure out 595 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: where they wanted to be and then target your receivers. 596 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: But you can't do that anymore because of the defensive 597 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: line or the coverage is very tight. So I'm curious 598 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: to see what they do at outside linebacker. Do they 599 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: maybe bring in someone we know markis Haynes Senior was 600 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: brought in. You lasted a day and now all of 601 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: a sudden you do have an open roster spot. But 602 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: I do I'll keep going back to this, the joint 603 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: practices as far as what those look like, as far 604 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: as how the outside linebackers perform against the Colts offense. 605 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 5: When when Monti Austin Ford's going to be standing on 606 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 5: the sidelines of those practices in Indy, And because he 607 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 5: will be standing on the sidelines at those practices in Indy, 608 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 5: I think it's going to be a very good measuring 609 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 5: stick to see where Xavi and Collins and Dennis gar 610 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 5: Deck are because you go against your own offensive line 611 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 5: for during OTAs in training camp, in mini camp, and 612 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 5: then you don't have him out there in that first game, 613 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 5: which is completely understandable. I think that Dennis gard Deck 614 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 5: and Zavian Collins both have put in a good measure 615 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 5: of work out there, good a good tape out there 616 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 5: so far during camp that you don't necessarily need to 617 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 5: see them play in that preseason opener. But I do 618 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 5: you bring somebody in you would assume so. But because 619 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 5: Manti Austin Ford is always looking at improving every position 620 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 5: group out there. But they do have a very strong 621 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 5: confidence in that room for one reason or another, whether 622 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 5: it's something we see or we don't see. Jonathangan and 623 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 5: Nick Rolis and outside linebackers coach Rob Rodriguez are very 624 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 5: confident in the he says they already have in the building. 625 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so something to keep an eye on as we 626 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: get closer and closer to the regular season. One of 627 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: the player, and I know you wrote about him on 628 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: Sunday on accardinals dot com, and that is Dadrian Taylor 629 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: Demerson and true to his nickname, rabbit all over the 630 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: field on Saturday night. 631 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 3: He was flying all over the field. 632 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 5: He was it looked like a little Buddha baker, a 633 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 5: little Buddha baker ask out there, which is the way 634 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 5: that he was running around the field, going from sideline 635 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 5: to sideline, high motor intensity out there. Johnathan again and 636 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 5: said he made a handful of violent hits that caught 637 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 5: his eye, which is really encouraging to see. But when 638 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 5: I spoke to Rabbit after the game, grateful, that's the 639 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 5: number one word I would use. Grateful and confident. He 640 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 5: has that swagger. I used to always be told by 641 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 5: Rodger Worski, a former NFL quarterback ESPN analysts. He used 642 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 5: to tell me, it's not cockiness, that's confidence, and Dadrian 643 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 5: Taylor Demerson aka Rabbit, Rabbit plays with all the confidence 644 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 5: in the world. He said to me that the speed 645 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 5: of the game, it didn't feel that fast to him 646 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 5: because he's a good player and I'm prepared for this moment. 647 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 5: That's an exact quote from your from your rookie safety 648 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 5: out there. But he was flying around, I thought, Craig, 649 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 5: he looked really good and really strong, and maybe more importantly, 650 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 5: as JG mentioned postgame without having watched the game yet 651 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 5: said he was talking about Rabbit in the right spot 652 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 5: and for a rookie to be in the right spot, 653 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 5: to be able to make the play and not trying 654 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 5: to extend yourself just to get on film and try 655 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 5: to do too much. What do you what is your 656 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 5: assignment and do what you're supposed to do. And it 657 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 5: totaled four tackles for him, which was tied for the 658 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 5: team league well. 659 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: I was listening to. 660 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 5: When I was listening back to the TV broadcast, they 661 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 5: talked about him the big play in the second half, 662 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 5: the fifty plus yard bomb from Jay Hayner to at Perry. 663 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 5: It was Elijah Jones that was lining up against at Perry, 664 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 5: but they said Dadrien Taylor Dimerson might have been out 665 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 5: of coverage in that situation and it allowed for the explosive. 666 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 5: But what was encouraging was two plays later, Rabbit makes 667 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 5: a strong tackle to keep him to a field goal 668 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 5: on a run play that would have scored a touchdown 669 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 5: of Rabbit did not get there. So it's a matter 670 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 5: of as a rookie, you could put your head down 671 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 5: and you could really be frustrated with yourself and your 672 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 5: and that potentially that one play, saying, oh, I might 673 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 5: have missed this coverage and beat yourself up over it. 674 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 5: But Rabbit got right back into it and he made 675 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 5: a big time stop. 676 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: Only two plays later. 677 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: JG, by the way, blamed himself and the coaches for 678 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: that long completion that allowed the field goal right before 679 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: the end of the first half, that it was a miscommunication. 680 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: So and we've heard JG bring this up before putting 681 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: the blame on the coaches on the sidelines, but again 682 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: a learning experience, especially for Elijah Jones, who might have 683 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: had a welcome to the NFL moment on that defensive 684 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: pass interference in which the receiver basically had a handful 685 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: of face masks and Jones's head was tilted back, Yet 686 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: it was he who got called for the flag that 687 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: allowed that drive to continue in the second half. 688 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna blame penalties, but there were definitely multiple instances. 689 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 5: I thought Tejon Palmer had a handful of deep is 690 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 5: going his way that definitely could have been called for 691 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 5: for DPI. But it's the cards you're dealt, and you 692 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 5: can't you can't talk about the what IFFs. You talk 693 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 5: about the what IFFs, Craig. 694 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 3: If we're talking about what ifs, I'm hosting them Bombardi tomorrow. 695 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 3: That is true. We'll keep that thought in mind now 696 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 3: I know this, yeah, of course. 697 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: But again, all in all, I think from offense and 698 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: defense perspectives, a lot to like, a lot to learn 699 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: from from Saturday, and now we'll just kind of see 700 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: where this heads towards the joint practices this week and 701 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: then Saturday's game against the Indianapolis Colts, and we'll hear 702 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: more from Jonathan Gannon later on Monday after he gets 703 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: a chance to see the film, because I do think 704 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: despite the low scoring and the slow start, especially for 705 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder, that were things that you can go back 706 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 1: and say, all right, just clean up this, we can 707 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: hit on this, and all of a sudden, maybe it 708 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: looks a little better for those players like a Ritter 709 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: that didn't maybe have that first game impression that you 710 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: were hoping for. 711 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 5: I think it's going to be very I'm very eager 712 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 5: to see how and Isaiah Adams back bounces back after 713 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 5: this once he has tape from a different opponent that 714 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 5: he's able to work on throughout the week. Once you 715 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 5: go to Indianapolis and you see what this joint practices 716 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 5: look like, because the trenches we see it throughout throughout 717 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 5: these joint practices, the trenches are really were a lot 718 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 5: of you could learn a lot about a player and 719 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 5: a lot about those young players. And Isaiah Adams has 720 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 5: a chance to really bounce back. Elijah Wilkinson is fighting 721 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 5: for a roster spot he had and they're they're trying 722 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 5: to keep him on this roster. You could tell because 723 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 5: he was just at left guard last year. They played 724 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 5: him at right guard, at right tackle, left tackle, everywhere 725 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 5: but center. You've you've put uh, You've placed Elijah Wilkinson 726 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 5: throughout training camp and even in this past game. So 727 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 5: you want to see how these players are able to 728 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 5: bounce back, and and Desmond Ritter as well. The confidence 729 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 5: of a quarterback. You need to still be able to 730 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 5: have that command of the huddle. So you hope to 731 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 5: see Dez bounce back. 732 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: So good weekend, Good weekend for you, Jack, Zach. We 733 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: want to discuss your Let's discuss it all right real quick, 734 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: because I know that people want to hear from me. 735 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: Of course, the Philadelphia Phillies in town. Yes, and what 736 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: happens Diamondbacks take three or four including the one game 737 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: that you were at on Friday night. 738 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 5: Yes, I was in left field. Shout out Richard Siins. 739 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 5: He is a legend and he knows exactly why he's 740 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 5: a legend from Fox ten. So what a guy, What 741 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,479 Speaker 5: a guy, Craig. But I was in the outfield, left 742 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 5: field to left center field and Johann Rojas, I thought, 743 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 5: you know, it was getting ready to I have not 744 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 5: seen a Phillies win at Chase Field. I'm now oh 745 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 5: and three. I was here in June of last year. 746 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 5: I saw them lose, and I also saw a bench 747 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 5: as clearing braw that game. Then I went to the NLCS, 748 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 5: and we know how that went for the Philadelphia Phillies. 749 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 5: Here at Chase Field, I thought this was going to 750 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 5: be the turning point, and I was in left field. 751 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 5: Johann Rojas hits a baseball that if only a few 752 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 5: feet further, I would have stretched out and tried to 753 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 5: grab like I was Dan Shasenna, just trying to make 754 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 5: that grab. You know, two Penn staters out there in 755 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 5: the field, yeap making snags over the you know, over 756 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 5: the weekend. 757 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 3: But that did not happen. 758 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 5: The ball dropped and I was assigned to let Jake 759 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 5: McCarthy know that, hey, Philly is not too far away, 760 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 5: so I got in his ear a little bit. Adrian 761 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 5: del Castillo, I'm pretty sure is his name. Second game 762 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 5: as a catcher in the MLB, and that boy smacks 763 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 5: the ball to right field to game winner, walk off 764 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 5: homer and first career home run, first career home run, 765 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 5: and I had such a weird feeling. I was with 766 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 5: my friend aj shout out AJ, and I was about 767 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 5: to tell him, like AJ, I think a first pitch 768 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 5: homer is about it happened, and AJ went to the 769 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 5: bathroom so he didn't even see it. And I had 770 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 5: to sit there by myself in the stands as all 771 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 5: you Diamondbacks fans were in my ear and I understand it. 772 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 5: I deserve it. And then yes, then the next game, 773 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 5: Jake and Carthy went for two home runs. So Diamondbacks fans, 774 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 5: you're you're welcome exactly. I think we've seen brace. It's 775 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 5: the chaos, think about me, You're welcome. I just hoped 776 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 5: that if the playoffs happen again, I'm still sticking with 777 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 5: my guns. You're the good luck charm. When the Diamondbacks 778 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 5: play the Philadelphia Phillies. Maybe I just got to stop 779 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 5: going and just, you know, take this one on the 780 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 5: chin and say, all right, it's me, Well, it's me, 781 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 5: my bad. 782 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 3: Sorry. We certainly appreciate it. I'm sure you do. 783 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 5: It's the group chat that was made after after the 784 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 5: game on Sunday definitely proves that you guys appreciate it. 785 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: It was, it was. It was a lot of fun. 786 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: So again, just again a good weekend all around outside 787 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: of Zach's good weekend. 788 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 5: You got to see you, I got to see Philadelphia. 789 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 5: That make it makes me feel like I'm close to home. 790 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 5: Even when I'm all the way here in the valley, 791 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 5: I still get to feel close to home. 792 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 3: And I'm very happy that this is the second home 793 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 3: now as well. 794 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: We we appreciate you being here, and again we appreciate 795 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: what you're doing for the Philadelphia Phillies as well, and 796 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals of course, right yes, right, yes, 797 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: we need your We need your work on Easycardinals dot 798 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: com and right here on Cardinals cover too. 799 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 3: We appreciate it. That's what I'm here for. 800 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: On that note, we will put a lit on. 801 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 3: This edition of Cardinals. 802 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: Cover two, presented by Hyundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, 803 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: has always special thanks to our executive producer Jim Mamhudre, 804 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: our associate producer Cody Fincher For Zach Kershman, I'm Craig 805 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: real Lou. We'll talk to you next time here on 806 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two.