WEBVTT - Episode 8 - She’s Obviously Not Dead 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:06.240 My reactions are slow. I feel like I'm underwater. Is 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:10.080 this happening? I keep looking around, expecting to wake up. 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:12.800 That would be great to wake up and realize this 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:17.319 whole thing is a dream, one big, long, bad dream. 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:22.000 But that is not reality. This is life, real life 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:24.959 in my face. I can't run and hide this time, 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.320 not like I usually do. I looked down and see 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.160 my gun. Something in my head tells me to grab it. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.600 You might need it later on down the road, my 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.680 trusty buddy. When I feel weak my strength, when I 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.760 feel scared, I grab it and run. I try to 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.120 clear the guardrail and have to stumble over at one 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.960 leg at a time. I only get about twenty ft. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.040 When I sent a presents to my right, I turn 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.920 and lift my arm to show them my gun. As 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:57.120 my arm straightens, I fell fire, a line of heat, 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.440 pressing my body down. I dropped to a ground in 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:05.200 a fetal position. All I know is pain. It's a 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.720 stream finding its way all over my body, then returning 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:12.040 to my leg. I think I'm making noise, but I 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:16.240 can't hear much. I thrash around, trying to escape the pain, 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:21.840 breathing hard, gasping for breath. I feel fire again and again. 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.240 Where is it? Where am I hit? I know it 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.560 is my lower body, but I can't bring my head 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.720 level to see it. I roll onto my back and 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:34.960 lift my head. There is blood, a fair amount of blood. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.320 Welcome to The Docherty Gang, a production of I Heart 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:44.399 Radio and Katie Studios, Episode eight. She's obviously not dead. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.920 I'm Courtney Armstrong, a crime producer at Katie Studios with 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.720 Stephanie Lydecker. We've been working with producer Beth Greenwald on 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.400 The Docherty Gang for months now. These three siblings have 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.120 agreed to tell their story for the very first time, 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:02.360 each from separate prisons. Lee Grace Dockerty is at the 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:07.800 Federal Correction Institute Aliceville in Alabama. Ryan Docherty is in 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:12.120 the U S Penitentiary Tucson in Arizona, and Dylan Docherty 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:16.160 is at the Federal Correction Institute in Bennettsville, South Carolina. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:21.040 Let's call us in a try and get out, can't 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.320 get out of my door, try and kick my window. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.280 Grace and Dylan were already out of the car, and 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.280 then we're trying to get to the firearms that are 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:29.920 in the rear, in the trunk of the trunk has 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.760 already been ripped open. It's already scattered a bunch of guns. 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.240 One of the AMMO boxes, I think, crunch one of 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:36.600 the a ks, like one of the a ks. You 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.839 see it spread out on the inter state. In August tenth, 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.519 two thousand eleven, the Docherties reached the end of their adventure. 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.800 After a shootout with police, a bank heist, and across 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.160 country chase, the law finally caught up with the trio 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:53.560 on Colorado's Highway. Reaching speeds of up to a hundred 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.359 and forty miles per hour, their white Subaru flipped over 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.400 and landed nose first onto a highway guard rail. No 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.080 one in the car. I was wearing a seatbelt. Ryan 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.359 and Dylan explain what happened after the wreck. It's literally 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.359 threw me out of the vehicle. When we rolled over. 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.040 There was a gun that broke over, you know, the 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.080 stock of a gun broken, you know, because I was 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.440 holding onto it. You know, I had no shoes on it. 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.360 I was barefoot. You know. That's that's another thing. Whenever 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.040 you get hit by a car for some reaching, your 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.840 shoes come flying off. Ryan wasn't thinking clearly, I'm gonna 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:24.840 try and use the car to keep it between me 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.160 and the police. And I'm gonna try and shoot it 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.360 out right down the street because I really don't want 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:31.960 to go to prison. I'd rather just die in the 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.120 street than go to prison for the rest of my life. 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:35.800 And I told him, as the man, we need a car, 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:39.920 bro I'll grab us a car. And I had my 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.320 own mental plans in my head and I was waiting 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:47.520 on the car. Really, my first reaction after that type 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.520 of rollover car accident is obviously to get out of 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:55.280 the car, because you're such a taste clarity escape. You 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.840 want to be on to put your feeble solid ground. 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:02.000 And when I got out, something just told me just 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.320 to reach for my done. It was between my ankle, 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:07.880 and I pulled it up and I put it on. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:09.880 The kind of told it to me, and then I 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.360 out of the vehicle. This all happened literally inside it 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.240 just I kind of rolled out of the vehicle and 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:20.480 I was looking for Jill and Ryan. Ryan just takes 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:24.360 off as it is he sees that we're okay, and 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.160 you know, I honestly I thought there was a chair 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.279 to thinking away. Obviously there was a lot of officers 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.000 and but you know we had gotten away in Florida. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.240 Former Wallsonburgh police Chief Jim Chamberlain was one of the 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.839 first to confront the Doughertyes. The driver got out and 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.720 he started running, and I believe that was Ryan. I'm 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.520 the youngest. So I got out of my patrol car 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.960 and went around the back, jumped over the guard rail, 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.440 went down the embankment, kind of running after him. First, 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.159 I yelled at him, stop police. He was in a 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.360 full sprint. I could see both hands. It didn't look 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.800 like he had a gun on him, so I was like, Okay, well, 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.240 I guess he's gone. So I turned to look and 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.560 that's when I said Lee Grace coming down the embankment 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.719 and she had something in her hands, and at that 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.240 time I couldn't really tell what it was. So I 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:13.160 was just running and I felt a presence or I 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.640 heard a noise behind me, and I just turned and 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:20.719 I just, for some reason something just told me, you know, 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.240 get this cough away from you. I've heard something. I 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.480 don't remember exactly what he said. I'm sure he was 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.960 stop freeze, I'm going to shoot. And I just raised 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.280 up my gun to him too, getting him away for 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:37.120 me to push him away, do you know, to war him, 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.599 Dylan crawled around to the rear of the car. I 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.120 was trying to climb into the back of the car 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:42.840 and the trunk of the car. You know, I had 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.520 no shoes, so I was trying to get a pair 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:48.080 of shoes out of the trunk of the car. And 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:50.960 once I've heard them, and I was like looking over 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.080 the edge of that, you know. You know, the trunk 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.000 was really high in the air too, and I was 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.000 wondering why my arm wasn't working. I kept trying to 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.159 grab the trunk and like kind of like you know, 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.800 voice myself up, you know, reach into the trunk on 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:07.200 my right arm, which just wasn't really there wasn't a 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.360 lot of movement that in it. And I remember looking 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.840 up that lawn rampanty and I remember one of them 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.440 had a twelve gage Have you ever looked at a 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.520 twelve gage barrel? But it's it's you know, it's it's 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.200 about the side of your thumb, you know, in diameter. 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.320 And the other one had I think one of them 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.400 had a a r kid leeen. Another one had a 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:27.240 what's called mini fourteen whist, you know, a ruger, you know, 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.320 kind of like assault rifle. I was looking at the 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.520 stuff those gun barrels, and they were coming down the thing. 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.120 They were stringing it up like, oh my ground, weren't 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.080 blow your bodies back down? Well. A group of officers 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.200 were focused on Dylan. Chief Chamberlain set his sights. Only 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:47.080 Grace had my gun out. UM started focusing on her. Um. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.119 She was doing so many with her hands that looked 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:50.760 like to me, she was trying to get the action 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:54.360 of a gun. Talked back to start shooting, yelled at her. 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.719 Police dropped the gun, Police dropped the gun, Police dropped 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.279 the gun. And the third time I said that, she 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.800 looked up at me and stopped and spread her legs 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.760 a little bit. Started reason the gun that she had 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:13.080 towards me, and I fired two rounds at her, hit her. 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.840 She spun around, dropped the gun and fell on the ground. 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.480 So I started moving up on her because she still 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:22.080 had the gun next to her, and all of a sudden, 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.480 I'm shot. I'm just rolling around like an animal. It's 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:32.160 extreme pain, like hot fire poker. It's just throw my 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.200 leg and I'm just screaming, and you know, I can 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.080 kind of sense my brother dealing close to me. But 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.640 I'm trying to figure out where he got. The other 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.000 brother was by the trunk. He kept looking in the 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.680 trunk for something, so I told him get out of 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:47.840 the trunk, get on the ground, and he kind of 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:51.000 looked at me over his shoulder, but I still had 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.640 my gun pointed at his sister because she still had 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.800 the gun next to her. Then I heard the shot, 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.080 and I heard the grace kind of like collar and 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.280 screaming it, and I got right back up off the ground, 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.160 looked up at him again, told him to get on 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:10.400 the ground. He turned, got down on his knees, looked 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:12.840 over and saw where his sister was stood up and 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.880 started walking towards her. And that's when I transitioned my 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.040 gun from her to him and told him to get 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.200 on the ground, put his face on the pavement where 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:24.200 I'll shoot him too, But Dylan defied the police. Once 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:28.000 I got up, I walked over to the other side 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.680 of the on ramp, you know, like to from one 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.600 guard rail to the other, and I looked over down 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.719 the hill and Lee Race was there, and she was 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.160 kind of like rolling around on the ground and she 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:41.000 was given the offense and Navy salute of sorts and 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.880 she was like holding her butt and I was like, wow, 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.040 unless she's holding her button pussing at the guy, so 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.760 she's obviously not dead. The whole time they were screaming 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:50.360 at me to get down, and I kind of like 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.360 blocked out that with their verbal assault on me, and 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.640 then I kind of like I turned and started looking 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.600 back up the eggs a ramp at the officers and 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.839 once to and I started here and there directives to 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.320 get down on the ground. And by this point they 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.120 had closed the distance and they were maybe andy year 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.520 sixte me away. You know, they weren't real close, but 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.800 they were close enough for me to have seen them. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.600 And at that point I was just like, man, I said, well, 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.719 I said, I really don't want to die heart kind 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.080 of the road ground. I went down to just drop 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:22.680 down on my knees and then kind of just sort 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:26.200 of fell forward on the ground, and you know, the 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.400 name rushed up on me and go with about in 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.080 chief Chamberlayne ran over to Lee Grace and then I 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.320 asked her to re hit. He said yes. I asked 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.840 her where she said in the hip. I was like, okay, 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.840 so I'm looking. There's no gushing blood or anything, so 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:45.559 I grabbed her, turn her over handcuffer, and while I'm 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.520 handcuffing her, I looked up and I saw it like 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.440 seven or eight law enforcement officers up on top of 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.960 the overpass or not the overpass, but beyond ramp, and 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.880 they were all, you know, rifles and shotguns and tacked 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:02.400 to all vests and stuff. And I'm like, well, I 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.600 know over half those guys, so hopefully I'm not gonna 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.880 get shocked. Right is gone? Ryan just takes off like 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.199 running through this feel all I see is like just 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.679 coming up behind him with his boots. I think Dylan 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:21.880 had injuries. He had a fractured arm or fractured although 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.839 maybe his arm was broken. I just see Ryan to 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.520 take off just like a rocket, and he's just falling 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.880 off of these work boots, and then he's gone. He 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.000 just disappeared. He ran so fast across that field. And 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:37.439 then all of a sudden, I'm on the right with 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.920 under screaming in pain. And that was just the situation. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:46.600 Everything happened so fast. It was like a dream. You know, 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.520 you're movie, but you don't person his control of your 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.559 limbs and I sure we're looking for the sky is 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.680 being covered with her Chief Chamberlain was on vacation that day, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.920 but when he heard the Docerts were shooting at officers, 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:02.360 he joined the pursuit, and with fourteen years on the forest, 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.199 it was only the second time in the line of 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.640 duty that he had fired a gun. So I went 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:08.320 from thinking that I was just going to be back 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.839 up to oh, crept, there they all are, no vest 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.360 I was in a T shirt and jeans, nothing really 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:18.200 that I identified me as a police officer. Meanwhile, Ryan 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.320 fled across a four lane highway. I remember seeing my 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.800 sister gets shot, not like her whole body, I just 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.200 happened to remember, like from her lower body. I remember 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.000 seeing like the front of her jeans, like a puff 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:33.520 of the material of the jenes Un. And all this 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.040 is as I jumped over the side of the guard rail. 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.199 And then there was a barbed wire fence like about 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.839 eight or ten feet away from there, and I ran 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:42.640 fast as they could. But I knew I wasn't gonna 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.160 be you know, I don't have mad hops. I'm not 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.320 gonna be able to clear the top of this barb 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:50.280 wire fence. I superman threw it. Ryan had no idea 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.439 that Dylan was in custody, and he was determined to 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:56.680 follow Dylan's plan. I try and run for a gas 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.520 station that's across the street, because they have cars sitting 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.520 there and like some of them look like they're still 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.640 running because it's a little called out in the exhausted 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.080 coming out, and I don't see anybody in the car, 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.240 so I'm in assuming that what they did is had 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.200 their car on pulled up to the gas station. It's 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.719 a kind of Poe dunk enough area to where the 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.760 people are still trusty enough to leave their keys in 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.480 car running, go inside, grab a pack of smokes and 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.320 the drink, and come back and get back in their 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.840 car and leave. So I'm going to go snap someone's 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.920 car because ours is come back around the interstate exit, 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.679 run over whoever I have to run over and pick 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:32.199 up my brother and sister. Ryan did not count on 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.800 the bravery of some ordinary citizens who just happened to 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:39.120 see him. Here's one of them, David Vostitch. He ran 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.439 towards this little diner that was that's just right off 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.400 the highway there by a truck stop, and I just 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.520 happened to be coming down this other road. I had 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:51.760 my mom in the truck with me, and we come 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.920 down the road there and there was this guy standing 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:56.880 in the middle of the road right in front of me, 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.960 and I noticed there was a bunch of people outside 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:03.959 the diner, and I slowed way down, and this guy 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.920 tried to open up the door when I drove by 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.959 on my truck. Ryan continues, one of the cars that 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.599 I've seen, like a nice little markety Grand Marquis. I 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:17.800 fucking like old lady goes and gets into our fucking car, 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:19.719 and I'm like, ship, I can't you know, I still 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:21.640 have screw booth. I'm like, funk, I can't dump this 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.599 lady out onto our face to get her car, you 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.680 know what I'm saying. And I just kept running because 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.120 they seemed like a little Honda that was across the street, 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:34.079 park right in front of the fucking Dominoes, and you know, 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.040 look like I had exhaust make bone out of it. 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:40.040 David picks up the story. So I told my mom, 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:41.680 I said, I don't know what's going on. We ain't 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.880 gonna have nothing to this. So I spun around there 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.800 and I noticed people were chased him across the road. 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.760 Then I don't know what come over me. I just 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:52.880 you know, I saw a couple of guys were chasing him, 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:54.480 and I thought I jumped out of the truck and 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.559 went after. I thought the guy robbed a diner. It 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.000 wasn't very long when I caught up to him, because 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.320 when he fun around and he acted like he had 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.760 a gun in his hands right there, I was already 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:10.839 jumping over a fence going after him. And that's when 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.400 he tried to take that shortcut through that pawn in there. 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:17.480 I remember telling him, don't go down in there, and 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.640 he went down through there, and I told him, you're 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:25.040 fucking idiot. I remember that now we're running through that stuff, 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.520 because when he was gonna go down in there, I 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.960 think he thought that that was just a pawn and 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:31.840 he was gonna just get out there in the middle 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:33.840 of the pond and not letting anybody get to him. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.520 And then he just sunk because he turned and got 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.120 right out of it right away, and that's when he 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.600 drove off down in the brush there, and and then 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.840 that was when I was right on him. When he 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.160 got out of that brush, I was right there on him. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.560 We're going to take a quick break here. We'll be 0:14:56.680 --> 0:15:08.080 back in a moment. Producer Beth Greenwall to speaks with Ryan. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.080 How long were you running for? Do you think four minutes? Maybe? 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.800 And did you have to go through any brush? Yeah? 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.240 Actually fucking ran through like a bullshit, like a spill 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.000 over pepe of pond for like sucking cows and ship 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:25.840 and like just ran through some ship bramble brush fucking 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.960 three four tall like sage brush, just like scrub brush shit. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.440 Here again is David Bustich. One of the guys stayed 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.000 behind because he was on the phone with the dispatcher 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.520 and the other guy. I don't know where he went 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.040 at the time. I caught up with the guy there 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.040 in the arroyo there, and when I caught up to him, 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.000 I told me he's to quit running, and he told me, well, 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.280 if I don't, they're gonna kill me. They're gonna kill me. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.000 I don't like nobody's gonna kill you. But you don't 0:15:58.000 --> 0:15:59.560 need you know. I told him, you didn't need to 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.680 scare my mom in the truck like he did, trying 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:04.400 to jerk the door open and stuff. And the other 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.000 guy was yelling at me, you just need to take 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.160 him down, just take him down. You need to catch him. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.360 So I just brought him to the ground right there, 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.280 and he put up a little fight and I was 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.840 able to hold him down on the ground there and 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.160 he kind of just gave up. Then he said, I'm done. 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:23.000 I'm done. Runned. Ryan was covered in sewage from the pond, 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.400 and he was exhausted. As I was running from the 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.120 bushes from here to there, I kind of smoked out. 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.680 You know, I'm not a fantastic tat conditioning or whatever. 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:32.520 I'm not a fucking runner at heart, and like the 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.400 adrenaline only pushes you so far and then your body 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.720 mackes out so like slowed to like a slow trot. 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.320 And some random Captain Savaho type fucking weirdo people tried 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.120 to like follow me, and you know, eventually I just 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.400 gave up. I was like, fuck it. You know, there's 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.080 not there's nothing left to do. There's nothing left here 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:54.160 to do. Here again is David Lucetich. We escorted him 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.640 up out of that arroya because none of the officers 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:00.480 could find us. We were way probably a couple miles 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:05.240 away from from the accident by then, and we walked 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.840 him out back out to the road there so they 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.080 could find us. In A state patrolman finally come down 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:13.760 the road there and he saw us out there, and 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.879 we flagged him down and he came over and jumped 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.600 on the guy, and the two civilions brought me to 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.960 the side of the road with him, and the fucking 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.920 cops and paramedics were there, and like the cops helped 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.119 me pinned down with some guns. I remember him cuffing 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.240 manship and kneeling on my back, on my neck and 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.639 fucking drive my face into the dirt. And then remember 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.080 the paramedics syn care. I remember the paramedics being like 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.960 super nice to me. I'm a charming guy no matter 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:39.879 who it is, and I'm around and I managed to 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.879 charm them and and they were really nice to me 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.439 and then meant a lot. That was cool. When did 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.720 you realize that this guy had been on, you know, 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.000 multi state chase? At this point, I didn't know anything 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.440 about him. See, I live out here on a ranch 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.040 and the news isn't the biggest thing to turn on 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.760 in the house at the time. I had no clue 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:00.680 who they were. I didn't even know any of that 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:02.520 was going on. I didn't even know there was a 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.520 high speed chase going on with them shooting at the officers. 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:07.800 Me and my mom were going to run back into 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.960 town and get gas for the four wheeler, so she 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:12.639 kind of just jumped in the truck with me and 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:14.840 we went back into town there, and it was just 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.000 crazy there. I never never seen so many news vehicles 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.520 in my life down here in this small little town. 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.560 And I pulled into the gas station and there was 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:30.720 news people like running up on me, and I'm like, well, gee, 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:32.320 I don't know what this guy, you know, did and 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.640 everything else, and they're all want to ask me questions 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:38.000 and stuff. And that's when like, I don't know if 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:39.520 you want to call him, like the head of the 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.960 state patrol, and I think a cb I officer came 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.560 up to me and wanted to talk to me. So 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.600 they pulled me into the hotel there and they put 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.639 me in a room there and then they explained to 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:54.119 me what had been going on with these people and stuff. 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:56.440 Then I was just sitting there kind of like all 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:02.600 in shock, like wow, okay, this just happened. Chief Jim 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.479 Chamberlain picks up the story. The state troopers got over 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.920 there and assisted as well to get him handcuffed, even 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:10.640 though he turned around a couple of times and made 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.960 a motion like he had a gun, but they didn't 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.000 see a gun, so they took him into custody and 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.320 troopers got him and then they loaded him up into 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:24.200 an ambulance and took him to the hospital with Ryan 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.359 and custody. The chase was finally over. I wanted to 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:29.360 let you know we've got our crime senior and route 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:33.960 to the fifty two right now. We also Colorado City, Okay. 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.720 Former Colorado FBI agent Phil Nidringhouse was assigned to the 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:41.080 Dockerty case. When they landed in Colorado, the FBI radar 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.159 room told me that they had said, you know, shots fired, 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.080 pursued happening, and then they updated me and said that 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:51.000 vehicle crash and all free in custody. At that point 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:52.840 I got on the phone and I was talking to 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:55.160 my boss and he said, well, whyn't you just keep 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.600 going and go down there and see what you can 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.440 do to help out and handle the media stuff down there. 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.399 A fleet of flashing lights ended the family affair for 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.320 the Doherty gang because they were taken into custody Wednesday 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.680 and put low Colorado. We continuously said that these three 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.719 fugitives wanted a battle with law enforcement. We will win 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:19.440 that battle and that's what happened today. Ryan, Dylan, and 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:22.119 Lee Grace Dockerty were all arrested and brought to a 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:26.520 local hospital. Here's Dylan. They were dragging me out of 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.320