1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling. Raivalry. No, no, sibling. 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth ravelry. That's good. 5 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: So this was a fun episode. We did it in 6 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: the beginning of Quarantine and the whole family, which we 7 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: were kind of nervous about it. Were they the first 8 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: one that we did with four Yeah, we had four 9 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: people on. Yeah. They logan McKinley, Taylor, and Chase. Yes, 10 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: that is not and I don't think in that order, 11 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: but you could actually tell who is who on this one. 12 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: I feel like you, you know, they're all of their 13 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: voices are very distinct. But it was at the beginning 14 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: of Quarantine they all were back home with their parents. 15 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: It was like it was fun. The brother that poor brother, 16 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: poor brother. He's like the hottest guy. He's like he's like, 17 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: Taylor is a male. I know, he's doing just fine. 18 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: The only dude I know with all his sissy the 19 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: opposite of me. I know. So poor Kate is what 20 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: you really wanted to say. But Ali, they grew up 21 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: in Colorado, so that was something that we connected on 22 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: and and they're all super close in age, so it 23 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: was like very busy, and I think I think it 24 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: was the youngest the youngest siblings we've spoken to. They 25 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: are and they're also young, and they're so much ahead 26 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: of them and even collectively, I think you add them 27 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: all up, they're like, you're still younger than you. I 28 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: couldn't hear what you said. Oh well, let me repeat 29 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: it then, Siri, But it's true. I mean, it was 30 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: really sweet. They're good. They're good. There are great kids. 31 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: They have great, good, good heads on their shoulders. Especially Taylor. 32 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean she's been, you know, this sort of supermodel 33 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: since she was a kid, but is really grounded. Yeah, 34 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: she's really cool and I loved I loved them. That's 35 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: her mother in the background, her mom with the dog. 36 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: So anyway, it was really fun to be able to, 37 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, talk to all of them and see their dynamic. 38 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: So here is Taylor, Logan McKinley, and Chase Hill. Hi, 39 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: you guys. This is so fun for us because we've 40 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: never done We've always been afraid to do more than 41 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: two people because it gets a little wild with the sounds, 42 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: but this is the first time we've done more than 43 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: two siblings. So yeah, we made a jump from two 44 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: to four. Yeah, good Taylor, Ms Taylor. We'll start with you, 45 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: and then let's go around and just say your name is. 46 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: We can maybe get like, I don't know, there's no 47 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: way people are gonna have no idea who. McKinley and 48 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: I actually sound really similar, so people just really listen 49 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: carefully to our voices. You'll know who Chases because he's 50 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: the only boy. So here you go. There's three sisters, 51 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: Gary Hill's sisters. So why don't we go actually by age. 52 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: We'll start in order say our ages and go around, 53 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: so that means you start. I'm Logan, I'm twenty five. 54 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm the oldest. I'm Taylor. I'm twenty four. I'm the 55 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: second oldest. I'm McKinley. I'm twenty two, turing twenty three 56 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: soon I will say twenty three, not yet, yeah, and 57 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: then I'm Chase and I'm twenty one. Baby baby boy, 58 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: JESU yourself. Wow, wild, I can't even imagine what your 59 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: life is like. The baby boy, let's start with that. 60 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: How is that it's a baby boy having three sisters 61 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: was kind of crazy growing up. There's not much time 62 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: spent like in the backyard doing like boy things. Was 63 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: mostly playing with some dolls, some my little pet shop. 64 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: But I mean it's pretty cool to have three sisters 65 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: that teach you a lot about how to treat a 66 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: woman and be a good man. I guess that's a 67 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: good Did they dress you up? I think they did 68 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: my makeup once. I think I remember that once, and 69 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: then probably some dresses here and there when I was 70 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: a baby. Well, you guys are all really close in age. 71 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: I mean mom and dad just went for it, right, 72 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean you're all full brother sister. Oh yeah, yeah. 73 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: Our parents are together for thirty one years, so we're 74 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: all together. So, oh my god. So four kids under five? Yeah, yeah, 75 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: oh my god. Your parents were just like yeah, silver 76 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: silver fox, silver Fox. And mom were just like, all right, 77 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: we got a plan. Okay, five year plan. Let's go. 78 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: Let's just make this all happen right now. Yeah, tried 79 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: to get a boy every time they wanted a boy. 80 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: Each time, they kept trying for the boy until they 81 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: got the boy. I think that's it's like really clever too, 82 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: because like then you guys all grow up at the 83 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: same age, and so you kind of all take care 84 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: of yourself, I would assume each other, I mean, yeah, yeah, 85 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: and then your parents could just like chill, Logan's my 86 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: second mom. I always say that she really takes care 87 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: of me, to the well, she takes care of everyone. 88 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: Logan is just everyone's mom when mom's not around. Even 89 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: when I'm around Logan, I digress as an adult and 90 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: I'm like, Logan, can you make me breakfast? Can you 91 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: do this? And she just does it. She's just the 92 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: best at doing all that stuff. Logan that that's actually 93 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: really interesting because you're the oldest of for all so 94 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: close in age, So for you growing up, you must 95 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: have felt like I mean that you were definitely felt 96 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: like the oldest, right oh yeah, like I they would 97 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: all be playing mermaids in the swimming pool and I'd 98 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: be sitting in my lounge here reading like, oh, I 99 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: don't want anything to do with that. Even though, like 100 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: Taylor was a year younger than me, I feel like 101 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm too old for all this stuff. So you're your 102 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: Colorado family, though, let's start there, because we are as well, 103 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: and we're a part of a crew. Because if you're 104 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: from Colorado, then all for one, One for all. So 105 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: where did you guys grow up in Colorado? We grew 106 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: up in a small town outside of Denver called Arvada, 107 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: and then we also split time in a mountain town 108 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: called winter Park. Chase was on the snowboard team in 109 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: winter Park, so we did weekends Fridays to Sunday in 110 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: winter Park. Cool. I know, were you in a mountain 111 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: setting or were you in a more flatter part of 112 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: the of the state. We had a bit of both 113 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: because we split time in the mountains with for Chase 114 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: and stuff. But yeah, the suburb neighborhood was flat in 115 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: the flat area, but it was still very outdoorsy. We 116 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: had a park really close to our house and a 117 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: really cool walk to a community pool in our neighborhood 118 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: in the summertime, and that was really fun. And we 119 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: kind of grew up like being outside. I remember never 120 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: really wearing shoes except for in the winter when you 121 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: have to wear shoes obviously, climbing trees, playing outside. We 122 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: grew up snowboarding, skiing, mountain biking, highk all that fun stuff. 123 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's so fun, isn't it. Like Colorado does 124 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: sort of breed very outdoorsy kids. Yeah, clearly we love it. 125 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: I mean every time we go back, it's very serene 126 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: and I just feel the most at home there. I'm 127 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: always like, okay, time to breathe, be outside. Yes, it's true. 128 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: It's like the minute that you land in Colorado and 129 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: get off the airplane. Oh, there's a specific cia like 130 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: the Denver airport is a certain way, and I always 131 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: every time I land, I'm like, that's the smell. Yeah. 132 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: As weird as that sounds, it's so true. You were 133 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: saying about barefoot except in the winter. But we used 134 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: to do this thing where we would do a competition 135 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: of who could run to the barn and back barefoot. 136 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: And we have a gravel road so that the little 137 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: rocks would like in the ice, they'd stick to your 138 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: feet and our barns far. You know. It's like we 139 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: had to actually like really book it. You know. Really 140 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: it was a smart game. It is either you get 141 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: frostbite or win the thing kind of did I don't 142 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: know if you do. You we did the thing where 143 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: you were in the hot tub and you would roll 144 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: in the snow jump back in. Yeah, that was the 145 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: challenge that we did. It was like we had a 146 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: hot tub in the mountains, and you would sit in 147 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: the hot tub and then jump out and roll in 148 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: the snow and see who could last the longest or 149 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: something like that. It was never very long, obviously because 150 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: it was negative three degrees outside. But so, what was 151 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: the dynamic like with all of the kids when you 152 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: guys were little, Was it, you know, chaotic or were 153 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: you guys pretty chill? I think I think we were 154 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: all chaotic, like running around like little Colorado kids. Like 155 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: in our neighborhood, we had a pond and like this 156 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: path will be called the black path because the pavement 157 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: was black, and we were all just like running around, 158 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: like just hanging out at the pond and like doing 159 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: random stuff. I think, Yeah, what about the dynamic between 160 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: the four of you? You know, you had clubs, not teams. 161 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: It was it was one point where we had a 162 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: club that was the I Hate Logan Club. But she 163 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: used to be so mean to us and she would 164 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: never let us have the TV remote, So we formed 165 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: a club. And then I think the dynamic was like 166 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Chase was Logan's favorite for a while, and it was 167 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: me and Taylor against them. Because me and Taylor actually 168 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: used to share a room together, and then we shared 169 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: a room together for our whole lives pretty much since 170 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: five years old. Yeah, so like there was definitely some sides, 171 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: some shade being thrown. Sometimes it was pretty chaotic. We 172 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: used to fight a lot, but they were fun. Like 173 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: we can all hold our ground, you know, holds our 174 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel like I feel like you know, 175 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: we're saying, like, what was your guys dynamic? Like, but 176 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: you guys are all in your early twenties still, I mean, Logan, 177 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: you're on the edge, but you know you're still you 178 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: guys are still so young, like you still have so 179 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: much more of that dynamic to happen now than you're adults. 180 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: You have much You have more time to you have 181 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: some time to hate each other. So right right now 182 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: you're in love fest. But just wait till your thirties. 183 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: Who was the first one to, like, Logan, did you 184 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: leave right out the bat? Taylor was actually the first 185 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: one to leave because she started modeling at like fourteen fifteen, 186 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: so she I think you went to what semester at 187 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: our high school? And then she left? And then did 188 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: you Taylor? Did you finish high school? Like were you homeschooled. Yeah, 189 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: so I was like halfway through my freshman year of 190 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: high school when I was scouted and started modeling full time, 191 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: and I dropped out of my high school and went 192 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: to online school. But it was super difficult to keep 193 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: a full class schedule because the way online school worked 194 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,239 Speaker 1: was you had to clock an hour for each class 195 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: and I was on set for eight hours plus a day, 196 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: and back then they didn't have the same regulations in 197 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: modeling as they do now, with you know breaks and 198 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, being a minor and stuff. So I was 199 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: doing ten hour days, twelve hour days sometimes and doing 200 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: school full time. So my mom and I were getting 201 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: very frustrated because she traveled with me everywhere and went 202 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: with me everywhere that I went, and was trying to 203 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: help me do homework in school, and she's like, I 204 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: haven't been in school for thirty years. I have no math, 205 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how to do any of this. And 206 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: then eventually I it just took the ged when I 207 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: was about fifteen so that I could test out of 208 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: school and focus on modeling full time. And I had 209 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: a backup plan in some sort of high school diploma, 210 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: but I did never like fully properly graduate from high school, 211 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: and did your parents have to make the decision, you 212 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: know where it's like, Okay, this is obviously what you 213 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: love to do, this is going to make you potentially 214 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: a lot of money, this is going to be your career. 215 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: We're going to put school off and we're going to 216 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: sort of allow you to go down this path. I mean, 217 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: was there a decision that had to be made a moment, Yeah, 218 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: there was, for sure. I was probably I was probably 219 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: about fifteen. A couple months after my fifteenth birthday, I 220 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: started getting requests to walk shows in Fashion Week, and 221 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: my mom was like, this is crazy. You're doing well 222 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: and doing successful shows and you know Versace and you 223 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: know Versus by Versace. I was one of the first 224 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: things I did when I was, you know, like fifteen, 225 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: I was a little baby. And my mom's like, you're 226 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: already walking for all these brands and traveling all over 227 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: the world. And I was shooting for H and M 228 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: and doing campaigns. And my mom's like, wow, it's either 229 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: we stop all of this and you continue going to school, 230 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: or you make an ultimate decision where if you do this, 231 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: then this is what you're doing. And she kind of 232 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: within herself was like, this is a once in a 233 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: lifetime opportunity and school is always there for you in 234 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: a way that maybe a career in entertainment, fashion and 235 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: modeling isn't always going to be there. So since it 236 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: was happening so quickly, we were like, well, I guess 237 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: we should just pursue this and be smart about education 238 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: as well. So I was still obviously safe and wasn't 239 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: a high school dropout. I have, you know, a diploma 240 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: of some sort, But yeah, I was. It was crazy. 241 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: I think that's interesting because it's true. It's like you 242 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: have an experience. It's like do you take that and 243 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: you do? You do? You run with it? Everybody's does 244 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: have a different destiny and yeah, look, I mean what 245 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: it what an amazing opportunity to be a teenager and 246 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: to be going around the world now at the same time, 247 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: like like where were all of you guys in this? 248 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: They were back home, they were in Colorado going to school, 249 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: and it was crazy. I mean, like, fuck, Taylor, she 250 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: gets to go do this and she's in the fashion, 251 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: she's walking the things, and she's in yaw and we 252 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: need to discuss this. How was that really for you? Guys. 253 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,239 Speaker 1: I mean each person must have had a different experience 254 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: with it. I mean I got my own room, so 255 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: that was nice. But yeah, like in the early days 256 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: of Taylor, like leaving, it was weird. But then we 257 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: started going to California a lot too, when she was 258 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: really modeling there when she was like seventeen eighteen, and 259 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: we got to go out there and spend summers out there. 260 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: And then I also went online my freshman year of 261 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: high school because I also was traveling from modeling during 262 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: that time to to La So I got to see 263 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: her a lot more than Chase did, for example. So 264 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: it was like nice to like go back and forth 265 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: and see half of the family then go and see 266 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: the other half. And yeah, so you started modeling and 267 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: you're how much younger? Like sixteen months were about sixteen 268 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: months apart? I mean from your perspective when you see 269 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: your fifteen year old sister like walking walking the Versace 270 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: show or you know Versaith, I uh, I don't know. 271 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: I was like probably there. I you might have been 272 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: sitting front row at a couple of shows I walked 273 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: in as a teenager. I be honest, I mean, because 274 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: you got you guys are really close and age, especially 275 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: for the girls. Was there an element of wishing that 276 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: like you could be leaving your school and having those 277 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: experiences or were you guys pretty supportive. I think we're 278 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: pretty supportive. Like I think though, I just thought it 279 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: was weird, Like I just saw it was so strange 280 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: that Taylor was doing this stuff. Like never in a 281 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: million years when I ever think that Taylor could even 282 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: get an opportunity something like that. So I don't. I 283 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: think I had like moments of like, why is this happening? 284 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: But it was ever more, it was not really jealousy. 285 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: It was just like confusion. It was like this is 286 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: so weird, but it's so cool. Yeah, it wasn't something 287 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: that really happened to our hometown. I think a lot 288 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: of people. I went through all of our high school, 289 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: and when Taylor left, everyone was like, Oh, she's gonna 290 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: go do what? Like what and everyone kind of was 291 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: like that's stupid, that's weird. And then when she like 292 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: was walking the runways, people all of a sudden we're like, 293 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, I used to be best friends. She 294 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: was here and all this stuff. She was kind of 295 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: like the famous like cloud at our high school, and 296 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: I would be like, oh my god, that's so cool. 297 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: I used to talk to it and expanish. You know, 298 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: you didn't because they didn't. They didn't even know I 299 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: went to the school because I really only went for 300 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: half was my freshman year, so it was just it 301 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: was once I left, they were like, oh, she went here. 302 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: It's like a little little bit kind of what was 303 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,239 Speaker 1: your favorite thing to do as kids, like when you 304 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: guys were were in Colorado, Like what was like a 305 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: traditional thing that was sort of with your family that 306 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: you did together. I think that would probably be skiing 307 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: and snowboarding probably be something that we always do when 308 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: it's you know, not summertime. We usually go during the 309 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: winter to go snowboarding because now we never get to. 310 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: When we were kids, like little kids, we hated it. 311 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: But now we're like, let's go. We gotta go go snowboarding, 312 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: go home, gotta get the time in Chases does it 313 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: at every chance he gets. He's crazy. I think like 314 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: growing up though, we were all like taking lessons at 315 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: winter park Resort Town and we all started snowboarding around 316 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: the same time, and I think we all loved it, 317 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: like that was our escape from the suburbs of Colorado 318 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: and we got it all just like being the mountains 319 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: together and have fun and yeah, is this the longest 320 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: that you guys have been together in a long time? Yes? 321 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: How is that? You know? I mean, you're so used 322 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: to now sort of globe trotting in all of you 323 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: except for maybe Chase. Chase is probably just like, oh God, 324 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: thank god, these women are just doing their own thing 325 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: and I can hang out for a second. Wait, so 326 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: you guys were quarantining. Explain how this happened that you 327 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: guys are all quarantining together. Well, we kind of came 328 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: down to Florida to my parents' condo, and we were 329 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: coming down to see each other for a couple of 330 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: days for McKinley and Chase's spring break. And I was 331 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: only supposed to be here for four days and go 332 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: back to New York to shoot, and my photoshoot got 333 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: canceled because of the state of emergency in New York. 334 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: And then two days into us being here, the lockdown 335 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: happened in Quarantine and we were like, well, I guess 336 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: we're staying until it's over. Thank god. Mom makes dinner 337 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: for us every night, which is so nice to know. 338 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: What is that like? Well, me and McKinley are sharing 339 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: a room, so that's been interesting. I've been borrowing her clothes. 340 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: She doesn't like it. But the thing is, I only 341 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: I was so proud of myself coming here. I brought 342 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: one suitcase and I was like, look at me, go 343 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: one suitcase for ten days? Who could imagine? And all 344 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: of this den I know, wow, I should have brought 345 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: like all my clothes. I'm so proud of myself in 346 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: that moment and just screwed me over. But no, we're 347 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: sharing a room. How did you decide who sleeps together? Like? 348 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: Who's sharing the room? I don't know who decided. I 349 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: think it's because me and McKinlay have very similar sleeping habits. 350 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: We like to sleep in and then we stay up 351 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: till like two in the morning watching Rally TV. So 352 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: I think that's why we were put together. And then 353 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: Shapes are you watching? Too Hot to Handle? My new 354 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: favorite show? We started it? We have her on episode one? 355 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we watched it the other day. Yeah, she 356 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: likes Love Island. It's so much like Love Island. It's 357 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: yeah crazy and I love Love Island, like I watch 358 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: it all the time. Well, we started watching it gets 359 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: too hot to handle, it gets it's just hilarious. It 360 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: gets funnier and funnier, and so clearly you've seen Love 361 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: is Blind. Yes, that was great, Great, that was great. Okay, 362 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: you don't watch that kind of stuff. But we're a 363 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: little more similar. I think, Yeah, I have no idea 364 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: what they're talking about. That world is very different for me. 365 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, you did you who the Bachelor? But they 366 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: sing all the Bachelor? And why is there more than 367 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: one Bachelor on the show. I'm so confused, Like, I'm 368 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: just not my world, So what do you? So? Do 369 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: you guys share a room? No, we each have our 370 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: own rooms. Nice. Also, McKinley and I shared a room, 371 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: so we don't really like to share a room anymore 372 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: because we did that for about fifteen years, so we're 373 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: kind of over it. And then McKinley and Chase lived 374 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: together in New York and the roommates, so they don't 375 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: want to live together in the same room. They tried 376 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: for a week and it didn't go so well. Chase 377 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: doesn't want to live with me. I'm a room with Chase. 378 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: I think there's two beds in there. I think the 379 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: reason no one wants a room with Chases because he 380 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: tends to scream in his sleep and like chalk gibberish 381 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: and it's really sleep talking. And Chase is a sleepwalker. 382 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: He was we were in the same room like two 383 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: weeks ago, and he literally jumped out of his bed 384 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night four am, screaming, jumped 385 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: onto my bed, ricochet off my bed and hits the floor. 386 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, what's going on. Yeah, I had 387 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: like a really gnarly dream that this like mouse was 388 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: coming after me and like jumped on my back and 389 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: then I woke up and like catapulted myself onto McKinley's 390 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: bed and like bounced off of floor and she was 391 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: like I was like screaming, and she's like, Chase, Chase. 392 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm good, I'm good. Just a bad dream. 393 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. That's why no one 394 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: seems to change. I guess, like because I'm asleep, I 395 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on, but yeah, I guess I 396 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: talk and like I sleepwalk sometimes. I don't know. That's crazy. 397 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: That's that's one of those things that like when you 398 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: have a girlfriend and then you decide to move in 399 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: together if they don't know about that. I mean, imagine 400 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: the first night in your new apartment and you wake 401 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: up like that's true, and she's like, oh shit, Chase, 402 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: Holy is this who you are? Only when I'm sleeping. 403 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: This happened like the next room, so I think she 404 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: might know. I don't know. You're in for it, Claire, 405 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: because Chase is a crazy sleeper. Good luck. Oh my 406 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: gosh are we all? Are we any of us in relationships? Yes? 407 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: I am, yes, yes? Are Do you guys ever? Have 408 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: you had any moments where you're all single together? Because 409 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: this is like a really fun time for siblings. You know, 410 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: it's like if you're single, it's like fun you get 411 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: to go out, and especially now Taylor, like if you're 412 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: single and you're out doing although you don't really, it 413 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: feels like you're pretty straight. I mean like, do you 414 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: like to go out? Do you like to She doesn't 415 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: watch reality TVs? I mean described straight because you know, 416 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: I have an alter ego and her name is Tequila Taylor, 417 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: so that's that. Okay good. But I'm pretty well behaved. 418 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm very hard on myself. You know. I have times 419 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: when I allow myself to dabble in that other part 420 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: of my personality. But yeah, for the most part, I'm 421 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: mainly work focused. But you can't have you know, you 422 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: can't do life only with work, So I like to 423 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: have some fun everyone in a while, let lose who's 424 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: the who's the wild one of all you guys? Like 425 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: who would you? Who? You know, we've actually all been 426 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: through our equal wild one phases. Logan was the first 427 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: to be wild, and then I would say it was 428 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 1: me maybe or was it you? I think if it 429 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: was him, and then and then I think it was me, 430 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: and then I think McKinley is in the wild Dace, 431 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: I would say, I'm the wildest one of all of you. 432 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: I like to have the most fun. Well now, but 433 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: there was a time when you weren't. But now when 434 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: since you moved to New York, I was like seventeen. 435 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: Of course, it's a good side. Who's the one that's like, 436 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: who's going to South Beach? McKinley Kinley's the wildest right now? 437 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: It says South Beach. She went to Australia. Yeah, that's 438 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: really smart. That's super smart, especially single. She's like, I'm 439 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: going to move there. Rozzie. Guys are really fun, they're 440 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: super nice. They're super nice. They're really fun. Like your 441 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: odds of meeting someone cute and fun are real high. 442 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: If you ever need advice about men, call my sister. 443 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: Let's like step back a little bit. Taylor, you really 444 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: came on the scene. You were doing all that stuff. 445 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: But I mean the Victoria's Secret was really like sort 446 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: of became if you're a Victoria's Secret girl, like that 447 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: really makes your career, you know, whether it be you 448 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: or GG and Bella and Kendall and all the girls, 449 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: did that feel like that for you? Kind of? I mean, 450 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: I's it's weird because in the fashion industry you can 451 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: have like two different really successful careers. So before Victoria's Secret, 452 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: I was having a really successful high fashion career, which 453 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: is walking all the shows, doing like high fashion campaigns 454 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: and editorials. So but you're not doing it at a 455 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: level of being well known as a personality or a 456 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: person It was more like I was a successful fashion model. 457 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: So I walked Chanelle, me and Me, Versace, Fendi all 458 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: the big fashion shows. And then when I turned eighteen, 459 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: I went on a tryout for the Victoria's Secret fashion show. 460 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: And I had just turned eighteen, so I was going 461 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: in there just being like, well, I'm eighteen and my 462 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: agent told me to do it, so I'm going to 463 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: try this, and they booked me on my first audition. 464 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: And when you do Victoria's Secret, it's like it's more 465 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: mass So it's more commercial in a sense where I 466 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: guess if you're maybe doing films or you know, photography, 467 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: you're more of independent films, the more niche, artistic whatever, 468 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: and you're still successful. But when you do that one 469 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: big role or that one big shoot that goes everywhere. 470 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: It's the same for modeling and for Victoria's Secret. So 471 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: I was well known in the fashion industry already, but 472 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: I became more well known outside of that to having 473 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: fans and you know, Instagram followers and a social media 474 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: presence when I did Victoria's Secret. Because yeah, like you said, 475 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: the girls that look at that are just megafans, and 476 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: it really explodes your career into something else totally completely 477 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: different than just fashion modeling. So that was one of 478 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: a really huge, like career shift I think was Victoria's Secret. 479 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: Was it as exciting for the siblings as it is 480 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: for like Taylor or you guys just sort of like whatever, Okay, now, 481 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: she's a Victoria's Secret model. It was really exciting for me, 482 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: you think, because we got to go the shows, which 483 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: was crazy to like see the shows in person, and 484 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: that was super fun. And like when you walk in 485 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: the mall and all of a sudden you see your 486 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: sister right there, You're like, whoa, that's kind of crazy. 487 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: Like any mall in the world you would walk in 488 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: and then people, our friends would like send us pictures 489 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: of her photos in the windows, and it was cool 490 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: to see. I think at that point, I was just like, oh, 491 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: it's just another like, oh, okay, that makes sense. Who 492 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: are modeling fans? You know when you talk about fans 493 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: and you become famous. I mean, you know, is it 494 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: younger girls or is it just people who love fashion 495 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: or is it just is it a whole mix of 496 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: random people. It's it's a bit of really. I mean, 497 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: on my Instagram account, I can see analytics, so I 498 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: can see who the majority of my followers are, and 499 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: it's young girls between the ages of like seventeen and 500 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: twenty five, and also from all over the world. I mean, 501 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: my number one country is the United States, but I 502 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: mean they're all over the place, and yeah, they're just 503 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: young girls I think who are interested in fashion, or 504 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: who go to Victoria's Secret, who buy the lagerie or 505 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: the underwear or pink even and then just like fashion 506 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: fanatics really because people who are into fashion just know 507 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: everything about fashion. I mean, I've had fans come up 508 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: to me and be like, I loved the outfit that 509 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: you wore in Versashi Spring Summer fifteen All Player Co 510 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: Tour show. I'm like, how do you I don't even 511 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: remember that, what how do you know? And then how 512 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: do you know that it's me? Because I'm one of 513 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: sixty models walking on the runway. I don't understand, but 514 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: they just they are huge fans. They just followed the 515 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: designers even too, and then when a model walks for 516 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: their favorite designer, then they're like, oh, this is my 517 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: favorite model that walked for this designer and this look 518 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: is this and You're people know more about it than 519 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: I even know about it. And I do it for 520 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: a living stone, So Chase, so Chase. You know, I 521 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: can I can relate to this in a strange way. 522 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: But I'm going to ask you, do you have to 523 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: deal with dudes and your friends talking about your sister 524 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: because it's something that I grew up with with with Kate. Now, 525 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: Kate's younger than I am, but you know, Kate beautiful 526 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: obviously became famous and even when she wasn't really but 527 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: then it's all about like, what's up with Kate and 528 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: Kate this? And you know, you know about that whole 529 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: talk that you sort of either have to put out 530 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: of your head or engage in. Do you do you 531 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: get that? Yeah? I think definitely. When she like blew 532 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: up from Victoria's Secret, I was just finishing high school 533 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, all the guys like now wanted to be 534 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: my friend, and I was like, I was like the 535 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: quiet kid. I played soccer and I skateboard, so I 536 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: had like a little niche group of friends and all 537 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: the jocks are like, hey, what's up, man, Like your 538 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: sister's like really famous now or something. And yeah, I 539 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: think I kind of just blocked that out a little 540 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: bit and like it didn't really affect me so much. 541 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: But I think my close friends understood it, and they 542 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: never really picked jokes at it or anything, or never 543 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: like said anything that was like offensive or anything or 544 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: anything like that. But it was cool, like growing up 545 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: with like some famous model sister but I didn't really 546 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: see who as like the famous model sister. I was 547 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: just my sister. M h. Yeah. I always saw Kate 548 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: as the famous actress. I made I made sure of it. Oliver, Like, Oliver, 549 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: don't you know who I am as the famous actress? Chase, Chase, 550 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: you're so handsome, I mean, are you model? I was 551 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: pursuing snowboarding, like I was trying to go professional with that. 552 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: I was on a team for sixteen years, and the 553 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: opportunity came, like when I was I think sixteen, one 554 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: of the agents at Taylor McKinley's agency saw an Instagram 555 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: post of me, like from homecoming or something, and they 556 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 1: sent it to the men's board at the agency, and 557 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: the agents there were like, yeah, like get chased. We 558 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: wanted him to like come model. So I kind of 559 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: had to like pick, Okay, do I stop snowboarding for 560 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: a little bit and try to like go into this 561 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: fashion industry because I was around it for a long time, 562 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: just like being in LA during the summers and just 563 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: seeing like how it all worked and how much money 564 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: she was making, and I was like, oh, I'm just 565 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: I might give it a shot. So my senior year 566 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: of high school, I went online and then moved to 567 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: New York and I did like fashion weeks and I 568 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: just started to do it more and get campaigns when 569 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: I was eighteen and still doing it now. But I'm 570 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: also in school so it's kind of a juggle between 571 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: both nowadays. Yeah, I know you're probably wondering, you know, 572 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: did all your modeling career And that was the first 573 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: thing I was going to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 574 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: No I felt that, And then the answer is I tried. Okay, 575 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: I gave it a s I gave it a shot. 576 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: I did. I went to all these castings. I didn't 577 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: even know. I just was trying to make money. Okay. 578 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: I weighed like one hundred and thirty pounds. I was 579 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: skinny as shit. I looked gawky and weird, and I'd 580 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,959 Speaker 1: have to like go to these castings where they're taking 581 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: polaroids of me in like tiny little undies, and I'm 582 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: like next to these dudes who were just shredded, and 583 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is so fucked. There's no way I'm 584 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: getting a job unless it's for some like you know, 585 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: some like scrawny like sidekick or something like that. You know, 586 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: I got one job I did a Levi's ad on 587 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: the beach and I got paid twelve grand and I 588 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: was like it's a lot of money. Oh oh it 589 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: was amazing, especially then, and I was like, that's it. 590 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: I'm good. You're like Levi's. I'll still do it. I 591 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: click take twelve grands. Yeah, I'll take you seriously, So 592 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: basically Levi's if you are listening, like I am a veil, 593 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: basically no. But but I still have my book, and 594 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: so my kids, like the other day were going through 595 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: my modeling book or if you even call it that, 596 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: it's I wish I had it so I could show you, guys. 597 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: It's so insane. I can't even begin to explain to 598 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: you some of these pictures that I took. I would 599 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: I would go on these weird castings where it's like, oh, 600 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: it's like eleven forty eight, sweet sir, and I'm like, 601 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: what is this? And it's an apartment building and I 602 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: would walk up there and there'd be some like Japanese 603 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: man with a camera and then they're like he's like 604 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: he's like, put on this. He goes he goes put 605 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: on this speedo. This is this is actually real. He 606 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: goes put on this speedo in broken English, I'm like, 607 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: is there anyone else in this apartment? Or is it 608 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: just you in a camera? I might have been at 609 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: the same apartment as you. I've done that before. Have 610 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: you really know? It's crazy? Yeah. I go into the 611 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: bathroom and I'm like, do I run right now? I mean, 612 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: am I getting into a bad situation? I put the 613 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: speedo on because I'm desperate, and then I come out 614 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: there and he starts taking pictures of me in this 615 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: tiny little speedo and then he's like okay, thanks, and 616 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: I leave and I'm like, what the fuck was that? 617 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: There's probably pictures. I think the question is is do 618 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: you know now what that was? Yes? And I don't 619 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: really want to talk about I don't want to talk 620 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: about it. Chase, have you had that? And where it's 621 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: like what is is? What is this? Oh? Yeah? There's 622 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: like so many castings where you go up to random 623 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: apartments and like it's just like okay, like I'll take 624 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: some photos and like there's like a pile of clothes 625 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: that you need to try on, like put these socks on, 626 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: put these shoes, put this like underwear and like tank 627 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: top and go behind his white back dude. Yeah, Okay, 628 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: now I feel much better. This has been a breakthrough 629 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: for me psychologically hearing that you have had a similar 630 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: experience because I thought I was literally like the only one. 631 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: It's also therapeutic. This is therapy for you. It is 632 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: it is Hey, Chase, do you like it? Do you 633 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: like what you're doing or is it sort of like, well, 634 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, everyone in my family's in fashion with between 635 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: photography and modeling. You're like, I'll do it. Yeah, I 636 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: think I like it a lot. You know, I just 637 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: I went I started to go to college two years 638 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: ago because I kind of want to switch it up 639 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: a little bit and try to juggle both because I'm 640 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: not gonna sit in front of a camera for the 641 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: rest of my life. You know, I want to do 642 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: something else. But I enjoy it. You get to travel 643 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 1: a world, meet a lot of people, have so many friends, 644 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: like in New York that I've met. It's just like 645 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 1: opened a lot of doors. I think, so Hm and Logan, 646 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: when did you get into photography? I would say around 647 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: the same time Taylor started modeling. I would steal my 648 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: parents camera and like, for try to take photoshoots in 649 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: the basement, and then I would shoot all my friends, 650 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: and then I started doing like senior photos for my 651 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: high school. And then when we would all visit Taylor 652 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: in LA, I was kind of interning for this photographer 653 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: and I was just like, Wow, this is amazing. I 654 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: love like the creativity of it, and like I would 655 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: think of something in my head, like a photoshit idea 656 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: and then do it, and I just love the whole process. 657 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: And that's the reason I moved to La was because 658 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 1: when we started going there, I was like, this is great, 659 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: this is like where it all happens. What's your style? Well, 660 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: I learned on film. I took a film photography class 661 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: in high school and that's kind of how I kind 662 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: of started loving it. And then I guess I'm kind 663 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: of still figuring out my style. I love shooting the 664 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: natural light. I don't do a lot of like studio stuff, 665 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: but i'd say like light in areas kind of my style. Yeah. 666 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,720 Speaker 1: I was just thinking about Kate, just all their names. 667 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean, how Colorado is that? Right? I grew we 668 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: went to school, you know, for half the year in Colorado, 669 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: and I knew I knew all of you guys. I 670 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: knew the names. It's you know Logan McKinley, Chase Taylor. 671 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean that was such Colorado cool name totally. Yeah. 672 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: So if you hear like chattering behind us, it's just 673 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: because we are all home living in under one roof things, 674 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: can't really find rooms, our kids and our mother and 675 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: one of Kate's best friends. I can't say her name 676 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: because she's extremely famous, right, and they don't care that 677 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: we're trying to do this. So we're just going to 678 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: talk and just try to drown, you know that, like 679 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: as if it's like rain it. See. Hey, guys, what 680 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: do you think about Helix? 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You know, I actually want 740 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 1: to ask Taylor question and you can refrain from answering 741 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: this if you want, But what happens when you're a 742 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret girl and as a model, it's like such 743 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: a fun thing to do and an exciting moment, and 744 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: then there's all the controversy around it? What do you 745 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: feel in that moment? How do you kind of manage that? 746 00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's interesting, It's always been so such a dream, 747 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: like a dream world. Really, even for me, I, as 748 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: a young model, knew that Victoria's Secret was the end, 749 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: all be all what you wanted to do, where you 750 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: wanted to be. All the best supermodels in the world 751 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 1: that it Giselle, Bunchin, Adrenalima, Alessandra and Brosio. I had 752 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: all these women that I looked up to, and then 753 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 1: I started doing it and I became an angel when 754 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: I was eighteen years old, and it was that was 755 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: in itself a big deal. I got a lot of 756 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: bounced back, Oh, she walked the show once and she's 757 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: she has a contract, she doesn't deserve it. And I 758 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: also got a lot of support and positivity as well, like, wow, 759 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: she's worked so hard and has done this at such 760 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: a young age. But you know, I grew up in it. 761 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: I grew up as an eighteen year old to now 762 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm twenty four, and I saw the shift in just 763 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: the industry, and you know, everything was changing. And I 764 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: think it's strange because coming from being inside of it 765 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: and being a part of it, I never felt controversy. 766 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: I never felt I never felt like I had to 767 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: be anything else other than what I was. I've always 768 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: had an active lifestyle. I was a gymnast growing up, 769 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: and I love exercising and working out and being healthy 770 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 1: and that's like my actual personal lifestyle. And so therefore, 771 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: I never felt any sort of pressure within Victoria's Secret 772 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: to be anything other than myself. I mean, I was 773 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 1: a kid and then I became a woman, and it was, 774 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, it was encouraged on the inside, like they 775 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: were like, you look amazing, and you're growing up and 776 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,240 Speaker 1: you're becoming a woman. And I would go from doing 777 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: the teeny bopper sweatpants shoots and then now I'm twenty 778 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: one and I'm shooting Lagerie because I'm like, oh, wow, 779 00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,439 Speaker 1: she has curves. Now like great, she's We're gonna work 780 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: with that. So as I grew up an adult, yeah, 781 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: them coming an adult like and I think, I think, Taylor, 782 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm what I mean is is do you feel you know, 783 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: part of the controversy is that Victoria's Secret and the 784 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: executives at the top making comments that did that were 785 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 1: a bit tone deaf. Yeah, I think people are wise 786 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: enough to understand that that's not what you guys. You know, 787 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 1: you guys are hired for this job and it's great 788 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 1: and it's a fun moment for you. But personally, when 789 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: when you hear those things or you hear sort of 790 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: the internal ins and outs, Like does that change the 791 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 1: way you feel about working with a Victoria's secret or 792 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: do you have a different relationship to what that is? 793 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: You know, I mean that all that stuff is so 794 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 1: corporate and was so above anything that I ever did, 795 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: and I never saw that or heard that. And then 796 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: when I was reading it, I'm like shocked because you know, 797 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: it's completely different people on photo shoots and sets and stuff, 798 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 1: and you know, I don't. I never saw any of that, 799 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: and I was honestly just like, wow, I can't even 800 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: believe that because my experience has been completely different. It 801 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 1: is the opposite, and I mean, corporate is so different 802 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: than creative. Like I was on the creative side and 803 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: I worked with you know, more of the producers and 804 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: all that stuff versus like all the people in the offices. 805 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I have no idea. And it was 806 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: strange because yeah, I work with the brand and I'm 807 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: a public figure for the brand, but my experience was 808 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: so different because while I work with them, I don't. 809 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 1: I don't work there. I don't. I'm not an employee. 810 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: I have my own I am my own employee. You know, 811 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: they hire me as my own you know, corporation. I guess. So, yeah, 812 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: there's no more there's no more show though, right, They've 813 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 1: eliminated the Yeah, so I had no idea. Honest, people 814 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,240 Speaker 1: people ask me all the time. I'm like, I swear, 815 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: I have no idea. What's happening? Who knows? Like, hopefully 816 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: a show comes back. I hope they bounce back and 817 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: we can be more inclusive and diverse. That's something that 818 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: I've always wanted. I think that's amazing. It gets a 819 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: little less pressure for me if I can, you know, 820 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: grow up and my body type as a twenty four 821 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 1: year old can be more accepted, and you know, I 822 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: don't have to struggle so hard to look like a 823 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: tiny eighteen year old. Well, I mean, I'm still blessed, 824 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: and I know I'm thin and everything, but I'm you know, 825 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm not a stick anymore. I was eighteen and I 826 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: was a stick, and now I'm a woman and I'm 827 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: fit and i'm you know, changing. So what's the pressure? 828 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: Was there pressure? I mean, I mean, this is probably 829 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: a stupid question, but I mean I'm sure there is, 830 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 1: but just the pressure to sort of keep look a 831 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 1: certain way. Yeah really, Oh yeah, matter for me I've 832 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: felt the pressure probably most in like the last year 833 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: or so. My body's changed a lot since I would 834 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: I since I turned like two twenty three, I gain, 835 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 1: I like lose and gain like ten to fifteen pounds. 836 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: But I think that's totally normal. So I actually felt 837 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: it the most, probably in the fashion industry, like in 838 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 1: high fashion and runways to be a certain way and 839 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: to look a certain way. When I don't anymore, it 840 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: kind of discourages me to want to continue to keep 841 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 1: doing high fashion stuff because I don't want to what's 842 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 1: the word, I guess, like, well, put that pressure, Yeah, 843 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: put that pressure on myself. I don't want to cause 844 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 1: like mental trauma or you know. I have a really 845 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: healthy outlook on life and I have a very healthy 846 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: relationship with food and it's something that I'm very proud 847 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 1: of that I've maintained throughout my career and I would 848 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 1: hate to lose that. So I think having my own 849 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: like morals is something that I've I've felt the pressure 850 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: because I've been so strict about being like I'm not 851 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: going to do that or I'm not going to lose that. Wait, 852 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 1: because I know it's going to really fuck with my 853 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,720 Speaker 1: head if I do, so that's kind of I also 854 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 1: think the whole community is changing, Yeah, you know, and 855 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 1: I think it's great, and I think that what's interesting Taylor, 856 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,479 Speaker 1: you have a really amazing fan base and it's yeah, 857 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: and it's useful you can reach out to people and 858 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 1: talk about things that actually matter to you. Yeah. I 859 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: guess my question would be like, what is that for you? 860 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: What is your life beyond modeling and beyond you know, 861 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: the fashion aspect of it. I always just the most 862 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: pressure I ever want to put on myself is to 863 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: make sure that I'm being an authentic, real role model 864 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: to these young girls, because you know, I was fourteen 865 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 1: fifteen at one point and looked up to models in 866 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 1: the industry, and then later to find out that a 867 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: few of them looked this way because as they had 868 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: an eating disorder and or we're unhealthy in their lifestyles 869 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: is heartbreaking because it's like, oh, they look like that 870 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 1: because of something bad, And I would never want a 871 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,439 Speaker 1: bad habit of mine to be put on some young 872 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: girl that looks up to me. So that's where my 873 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: frustration comes from being in an industry like this and 874 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 1: growing up in it, is seeing how my body's changed 875 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: from being a teenager to a young woman, and how 876 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: it hasn't been fully accepted in a lot of areas 877 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: in the industry. It can be quite frustrating because if 878 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 1: I do lose the weight, if I do go down 879 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: from a size four or a size six back down 880 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: to a size two, what image is that showing young girls? 881 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: Am I doing it in a healthy way? Am I 882 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: doing it in a positive way? Am I doing it 883 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: for a positive reason? Is my mental state being affected 884 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: by doing this to myself? Those are all things that 885 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 1: I think about and a pressure that I put on 886 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: myself in choosing moves in my career that I want 887 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 1: to take. Because I haven't walked fashion shows and I 888 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 1: haven't done Fashion Week for probably a year or two 889 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: seasons now because I knew mentally it's going to be 890 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: way too hard for me to get there to do it. 891 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: And that's not a message I want to send to 892 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,919 Speaker 1: those young girls. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter about 893 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: your job, it doesn't matter what my technical job is. 894 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: If they're not going to accept me for being Taylor, 895 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: then I can't do it because what's the point, Like, 896 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,919 Speaker 1: why I'm not going to be happy? Why would show 897 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,760 Speaker 1: millions of young girls that I'm doing something that doesn't 898 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: make me happy, what's that going to make them do? 899 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: So that's something that I always try to express to 900 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: my agents, to managers, to the industry, that hey, this 901 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 1: is who I am, and you're booking me for me 902 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: because of everything that I bring. I'm positive, I'm great 903 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: to work with. I'm happy, I have a great connection 904 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 1: to my fan base, and I love all of those 905 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 1: young girls, even young boys, and I just want them 906 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 1: to feel happy and positive and connected to their families 907 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: or their families whoever, whatever your family is to you, 908 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 1: like you should be grounded by that. And I'm so 909 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 1: happy and thankful every single day that I have my 910 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 1: brother and my sisters, because fuck I couldn't. I couldn't 911 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: fucking do this if I didn't have them, Because they 912 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: check me. Man, they'll check me, Taylor, You're an idiot, Like, 913 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,760 Speaker 1: shut up, you're crazy. You know you're you're a goofy. 914 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: Just be yourself. I'm like, oh shit, you're right, Like 915 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: they know me more than any of all. Do they 916 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: all check you or is there one that checks you 917 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 1: the most? All of them? They check They all check 918 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 1: me equally as punch me in the face with their 919 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: words sometimes Jesus, and a couple of times actually punching 920 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: me in the face, like wow, But I need it 921 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: and I love it, and I just want everyone to 922 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: like be able to have that sort of humbling like 923 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 1: feeling in life where it's just like, I love fashion, 924 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 1: I love my industry. I love my job so much. 925 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 1: But on top of that, I'm a person. I'm a 926 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 1: human being. I have a family, I have real life things, 927 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 1: and there are more important things. I'm not a doctor, 928 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: you know. I'm not doing you know, extra special, amazing 929 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: beautiful work that these awesome front liners are doing, you know, 930 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,240 Speaker 1: so to have people to check me and be like, yeah, 931 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: you have a cool job, but you know you did 932 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: you have anyone take you under your wing, Like, did 933 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: you have someone when you were coming up, you know, yeah, 934 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 1: someone big to sort of say, hey, I'm gonna show 935 00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: you the ropes. Yeah. One of my really good friends 936 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: Bhati Prince Lou. She's one of the coolest. Don't get 937 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: it twisted, you guys. Bahatti's first child was Tequila Taylor. 938 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 1: I tell her all the time, like, you have three 939 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: children and one of them is Tequila Taylor and she's like, 940 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 1: oh my god, you're right. Bahati Bahadi took you under 941 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 1: her wing. She's say so, She's probably the one one 942 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,839 Speaker 1: of the girls that was the most real with me 943 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: from the beginning and was like, hey, you're cool and 944 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,880 Speaker 1: you're I can tell your sensitive and special, like, just 945 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 1: keep that and keep going, keep doing fuck everyone else, 946 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: do what you do, be yourself, because that's all she 947 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: ever did. I think she's one of the coolest people. 948 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: She's just so unapologetic, unapologetically herself. Mckimley, I want to 949 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: talk to you for a second, because you've been the 950 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,400 Speaker 1: most quiet you do model and you've done You've really 951 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,720 Speaker 1: done some amazing campaigns and you you work a lot. 952 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: Is it challenging for you being being Taylor's younger sister? 953 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you're in the same industry and your sister 954 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 1: made such a big splash at such a young age. 955 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: What's your relationship to that. I think it helps me 956 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, and I and I know that, 957 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 1: and I never like wanted to be like, oh I 958 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 1: got here on my own, because like I didn't. But 959 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 1: also I think it hurts me in a lot of 960 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 1: ways because I've had experiences like when I turned eighteen, 961 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: I tried out for the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show and 962 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 1: I made the mistake of posting it on my social 963 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 1: media and I got absolutely wrecked on the internet, where 964 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: like that's nepotism, Like you don't deserve that. I'm like, well, 965 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 1: first off, that's not nepotism because we didn't come from 966 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 1: like like famous parents like Taylor, made it on our own, 967 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: and like I have every right to try out for 968 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 1: a show. Like if that was nepotism, I would have 969 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: gotten the show without trying out. So like that's where 970 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: it like hurts me a little bit, is like, well, 971 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: what you're saying, like the pressure, Yeah, like you just 972 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 1: don't even like you only get stuff you get because 973 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 1: of Taylor, And like that is true in certain aspects 974 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 1: like Rolf Lauren and we all got that because of Taylor, 975 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: and that's a gift. And a lot of clients will 976 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 1: use me because like I am her sister and it 977 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: will give them a little bit more of a push, 978 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's great. Like I don't hate that 979 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: at all, Like I totally accept that. I say that 980 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: to my friends like all the time, Like I don't 981 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: think I still be modeling if it wasn't for Taylor. 982 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 1: But like, I think you also have a very different 983 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 1: look from Taylor, So I think a lot Oh yeah, yeah, 984 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 1: I mean I look like her a lot, but like 985 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 1: I think I'm a little bit more like edgy looking 986 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 1: because I just have like sharper features. So, like, I 987 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 1: don't know, I think it's it can be good, it 988 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: can be bad. I mean, I think you make a 989 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: great point. It's about what you do with the opportunity, 990 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: you know. I mean we grew up like that. I 991 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: mean our parents were famous, and you know, of course 992 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: there is nepotism, but at the end of the day, 993 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: once that foot goes in the door, you got to 994 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 1: pull your entire body through, right, You're the one who 995 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: has to bring it all in. Yeah, without a doubt 996 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: and trust me, Like you know, half the time people 997 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: say I know you. You're Kate Hudson's brother. I'm like, yeah, 998 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 1: I am. Do you know my real name? They're like no, 999 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 1: they don't need It's fine. I think that also, it's 1000 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 1: about how you feel, not how it's seen. And the 1001 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: reality is like people are going to say whatever they're 1002 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 1: going to say, each and every one of you. I mean, 1003 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 1: and we're talking about modeling, We're talking about aesthetically pleasing features. 1004 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you're just all incredibly beautiful and so you 1005 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 1: know that's really what we're talking about here. And look 1006 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: and model and Edgie like what you what you'll bring 1007 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 1: to a picture would be different than what your brother 1008 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: would bring and what Taylor would bring and everybody's going 1009 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 1: to have. And then you know, Logan, you know, sitting there, 1010 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, is like the only one not modeling. That's 1011 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: a whole other conversation. Have you shot have you shot them? 1012 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: I mean, have you shot any campaigns for the for 1013 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 1: the kids? Yeah? So Taylor and I work together. We 1014 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 1: shoot some Victoria's Secret stuff together. And then I've always 1015 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 1: forced McKinley to do stuff with me. And I think 1016 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: I've I've shot McKinley, and I think I've shot all 1017 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 1: of you together at that point. Yeah, you've shot the 1018 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 1: three of us. Yeah. Is McKinley like, I don't want 1019 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 1: to do it and You're like, and Logan's like, you know, 1020 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 1: I've had to actually pay McKinley to close block a 1021 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: night agent first, ive her like fifty bucks. Really, sometimes 1022 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 1: I just don't want to do when we're stuck in 1023 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 1: the mountains. She's the only one kind of willing to 1024 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: do it. We're there and I'm like, oh, I have 1025 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: this cool idea, like can please just do this for me? 1026 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: I just need you for like ten minutes, and then 1027 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 1: she'd be like, all right, it's gonna cost you. That's amazing. 1028 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: What has been your sort of moment of like, wow, 1029 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 1: this is really cool as a model McKinley, I think 1030 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 1: the coolest thing for me is, uh, just the ability 1031 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 1: to be able to travel to all these amazing places 1032 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 1: I never thought I would go in a million years, 1033 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 1: and especially like as sad as it can be sometimes 1034 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: to be traveling alone, I think it has taught me 1035 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 1: so much about myself because I now know that I 1036 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 1: know I don't go to grocery stores in foreign countries. 1037 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I refuse to go to 1038 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 1: grocery stores, like I'd rather uber eats and like like 1039 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 1: harvest things like a squirrel, like chips from here and 1040 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 1: there and do that. Weird things I've learned about myself. 1041 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the traveling aspect and just being 1042 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: by yourself a lot. Yeah, it's a really funny thing 1043 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 1: to learn. About yourself. You don't go to the grocery store. 1044 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: Just go to the grocery store sing about like when 1045 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 1: I was in Milan. It just really turned me off. 1046 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 1: I was like, it sounds really scary. Ali. I am 1047 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: hung I'm so hungover. That's brutal. I know, I know, 1048 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 1: I know, I gotta stuff. We stopped drinking during the week. 1049 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 1: We were like, we're not drinking during the week, weekends only, 1050 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 1: so we do like Friday Happy Hour. McKinley, on the 1051 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 1: other hand, has three white claws a night sometimes. Oh 1052 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 1: my god, I was giving you the benefit of doubt 1053 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 1: with three you're correct. Oh yeah, no, I tried that. 1054 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, because the first few weeks 1055 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 1: it was just drinking, drinking, and then and then I 1056 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm gonna i gotta take a 1057 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 1: week off, Like I'm only going to drink on the weekends. 1058 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 1: And it was Sunday, and then Tuesday rolls around and 1059 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it was another day today. Maybe yeah, 1060 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe I'll just have a glass of wine, 1061 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: which then turns into a bottle of wine. You know. 1062 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 1: Oh that was Chase night. Every night we were like 1063 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 1: we have to stop and then one day he just says, 1064 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 1: so I was thinking about not drinking for during the week, 1065 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm in please looks not. And 1066 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 1: it's so great because at least we can hold each 1067 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 1: other accountable. And you guys have stuck to it. Yeah, 1068 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 1: we've been doing it for about two weeks. Right, No, hey, look, 1069 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 1: McKinley's got to have her white claws. That's just are 1070 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 1: you guys getting sick of each other? Oh? Yeah, I 1071 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,439 Speaker 1: mean at all? No, I like we have moments. There's 1072 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 1: like a day, you know, you have a bad day. 1073 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 1: What about what about like mom and daddy? You like, like, 1074 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 1: oh god, I love you Mom, love your dad, But 1075 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 1: like I need I needed some space. Yeah, we're ready 1076 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 1: for personal space. Yeah no, I mean, look, you love 1077 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 1: each other, there's no doubt about it. But personal space 1078 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 1: that's really overrated. Yeah. In quarantine, God, who's the most antsy? 1079 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,920 Speaker 1: Who wants to get other the most? Do you think Logan? Yeah? Logan. 1080 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 1: She's like Logan said, I'm not going to see you 1081 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 1: guys for three months. After this, She's like, don't call me. 1082 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to them see you for a long time. Okay, fine, 1083 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 1: something canst see you it is against us, though, isn't it? 1084 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 1: You're against us? She's the oldest you know what I mean? 1085 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: Oh you're because you're so much older. Yeah, god, all 1086 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 1: thirteen months of you don't act like you're older than me. 1087 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 1: She's the queen. Do you guys go to each other 1088 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 1: for advice for projects? I go to Chase because I'm 1089 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,440 Speaker 1: also in school, so he's done this class before me. 1090 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm thinking right now, and I ask for his homework. 1091 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 1: But also you asked me like, oh, I'm going on 1092 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 1: this casting do you know this casting director? Or have 1093 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 1: you a photographer or stuff like that? That I was 1094 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 1: about modeling stuff. All right, so let's do our speed round. Okay, ready, guys. Ready, 1095 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 1: One word to describe Taylor out going, crazy, weird, coirky, yeah, tequilak. 1096 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: One word? What about? One word to describe Logan Bossy, 1097 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 1: the boss boss. I'll agree on that. One word to 1098 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 1: describe McKinley dark, she's so morbid outgoing. That's nice face, 1099 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 1: thank you. Morbidly outgoing. Let's say morbidly outgoing. That's good. 1100 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 1: I like you don't you don't want to be at 1101 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 1: McKinley's dinner party. It's she talks about a lot of 1102 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 1: things that make men comfortable. I want to know what 1103 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 1: made murder about. And I don't know real killers. I 1104 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 1: just bring up really like negative facts sometimes. And Taylor's 1105 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 1: friend Jill, at the moment I met her, she was like, 1106 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 1: you should really host a dinner party, and I was 1107 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 1: just like a joke that people say, just talk about 1108 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 1: really gross things sometimes or murder. I'm with you. Serial 1109 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 1: killers are fascinating to make you know, did they do? They? 1110 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:44,880 Speaker 1: Chase the one word for Chase, Yeah, he's very clean, organized, organized, composed, composed, 1111 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 1: put together. Okay, which sibling is the most outgoing, the 1112 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 1: most outgoing? McKinley, yea, which sibling is the most adventurous? 1113 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 1: Same day again, girl, No, you don't go on adventures 1114 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 1: her room on a mountain. That's true. I heard it 1115 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 1: was me because I go the most places. That doesn't 1116 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 1: that's your work? What about? What about? We asked this 1117 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 1: sometimes and it's actually perfect because you're from Colorado. If 1118 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 1: you are in the mountains, okay, and you are lost 1119 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: in the mountains, who do you look to to sort 1120 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 1: of lead the way and get everyone to safety? Logan 1121 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 1: Chase is like what I'm the mountain man. I know, 1122 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,040 Speaker 1: I know how to get everywhere in Colorado. I'm the 1123 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 1: one that is always outside when we're in the mountains. 1124 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 1: Everyone else is stuck inside reading their books. I'm going 1125 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 1: on hikes, I'm snowboarding every day. I'm the mountain man. Yeah, 1126 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 1: but Logan I can execute a plan, and she can 1127 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,480 Speaker 1: get all of us to do what we need to do. 1128 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 1: She would be like, Okay, this is what we're gonna do, 1129 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 1: and we'd be like, okay, right. She'd be like, Chase, 1130 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 1: you need to trek across the mountain. You know exactly 1131 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 1: where to go. You're going to do this. Or you 1132 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 1: could listen to me. Because I watched a lot of 1133 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 1: Naked and Afraid. I love that show me too. I'm obsessed. 1134 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 1: It's so great. Wait, who would Yeah, who would win 1135 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:15,080 Speaker 1: a Naked and Afraid of this family there were no bugs? 1136 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 1: I would win, probably because you've watched the most of it. Yeah, 1137 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 1: but if there were no bugs, then I would win. 1138 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 1: I hate spiders. I can't deal with that. I would 1139 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 1: probably tap out. And I don't think any of us 1140 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 1: would like win. Yeah, I think we all. I don't. 1141 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 1: I don't do that. I can't do that was the 1142 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 1: most competitive sibling. Logan is very I think Logan is 1143 01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,480 Speaker 1: Logan has to one up everyone, even in an argument. 1144 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 1: We're not really competitive as much as we just argue, 1145 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 1: and Logan has to win at the arg she has 1146 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 1: to make her point. I like it. I love I 1147 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 1: love looking at Logan. Even though she's only a little 1148 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,919 Speaker 1: bit older, she just feels older. You know, she's got 1149 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:03,680 Speaker 1: this sort of like Wiet strength of like, yeah, y'all, oh, 1150 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:10,000 Speaker 1: my siblings, which sibling tells a better Jokey? Mckley's got 1151 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 1: some funny jokes? Who calls each other more? I call y'all. 1152 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 1: You never call me. I don't call because I live 1153 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 1: with him. Yeah. I call Logan a lot. I think 1154 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,560 Speaker 1: me and Logan probably talk the most. Yeah, I'll just 1155 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,559 Speaker 1: check in because you've never called it. How are you? 1156 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 1: She's Mama bear Logan. I love cooking. Who takes the 1157 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:40,240 Speaker 1: longest to get ready? McKinley. I like the routine. My 1158 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 1: morning routine is very special to me. Like to sit 1159 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:47,519 Speaker 1: and do nothing for two hours, that's part of it, right. Yeah? 1160 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 1: What about your first celebrity crush? Mine was Chad Michael 1161 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: Murray See Him Squared? Okay, what about you, Chase. Oh 1162 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 1: you know what? Mine was Nate Archibald from Gossip Girl. 1163 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. Probably it was a grassy I 1164 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 1: don't know who it was, but oh my god, he 1165 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,640 Speaker 1: was so cute. I don't know his name, but I 1166 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 1: loved him. I used to watch it in the basement 1167 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 1: because I thought it was like a bad Joe and 1168 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 1: my mom and yell me, what about you, Chase. I'd 1169 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 1: probably say Megan Fox because transform yeah, yeah, you too, 1170 01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:27,759 Speaker 1: you too. To be honest, yeah everyone Chase. The correct 1171 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,840 Speaker 1: answer would have been Kate Hudson, what's wrong? I know 1172 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 1: you're in my favorite movie? What's your favorite movie? Almost? Famous? Awesome? 1173 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 1: Which sibling naps the most? McKinley, yeah, Henley, Yeah, I've 1174 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,880 Speaker 1: taken more of a liking to napping these days. I 1175 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 1: wish I could napping sounds. They used to make me 1176 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,400 Speaker 1: feel really bad when I woke up, Like I felt 1177 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 1: extremely guilty when I woke up from a nap, And 1178 01:09:55,040 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 1: now I'm just like, Okay, which siblings the most responsible? Logan? 1179 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:09,800 Speaker 1: Who's better at Scrabble? Board game? I scrabble a lot. 1180 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 1: I do never played scrabble. Actually, I don't even know 1181 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:19,160 Speaker 1: how that works. Really, who's better at karaoke? All of us? 1182 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,320 Speaker 1: I think none of us are good at karaoke. No 1183 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 1: one's good at it, but we enjoy it when the 1184 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:29,160 Speaker 1: climb comes on me and Taylor find herself, yes, become 1185 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,960 Speaker 1: No one's a good singer, Oh no, of course not, 1186 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 1: but we we commit. I mean McKinley and I just 1187 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 1: shred on Miley Cyrus. It's the climb because you know, 1188 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 1: it's just so good and we're just so good at 1189 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 1: being so bad at singing it, and that just makes 1190 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 1: it so much better. It's the commitment. Really, I love 1191 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,240 Speaker 1: that song. Who would make Your Sibling the most tongue tied? 1192 01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 1: You know? Is there anyone you guys would meet or 1193 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,720 Speaker 1: where you're like, holy shit? You know? Well, McKinley and 1194 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 1: I were together when we met Jennifer Aniston and I 1195 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,080 Speaker 1: had a meltdown and McKinley had to go up to 1196 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,000 Speaker 1: her to introduce us. I had to. There was no 1197 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,240 Speaker 1: way I was going to let her walk away without 1198 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 1: me saying hello. I put like form words. I couldn't. 1199 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to me because I've met 1200 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 1: so many people, but something about her I couldn't function 1201 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 1: she was so nice. And I met her actually again 1202 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 1: at the Oscar night and she remembered me and she 1203 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 1: asked about McKinley, and I was like, you're amazing. I 1204 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,639 Speaker 1: can't believe you remember meeting us. Why wasn't that when 1205 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,719 Speaker 1: we were all in the yeah, outside of the photo 1206 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 1: booth area. Yeah, that was exactly it. And she like 1207 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 1: came out and I was like, hey, I just wanted 1208 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,000 Speaker 1: to say hi, and she was like, you're tailor, right. 1209 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,080 Speaker 1: I was like, what, get out of here, you don't 1210 01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 1: remember me. She's like, that was to start night. Okay. 1211 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,880 Speaker 1: Who gives the best advice? Logan gives good advice? What 1212 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 1: about pet peeves? You guys have any pet peeves? Loud chewing? 1213 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:15,400 Speaker 1: I can't many questions. Yeah, actually used to be my 1214 01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 1: answer for a slow walkers slow. She's ice ice crunching. 1215 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm an ice cruncher. I've always been. I will never stop. 1216 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,439 Speaker 1: I hate I can't. Sometimes I'll get a cup of ice. 1217 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 1: Just oh, who are who are the morning people? And 1218 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:43,840 Speaker 1: who are the night people? Morning person the night owl? Yeah, yeah, 1219 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,559 Speaker 1: I'm a morning person and McKinley and Taylor probably the 1220 01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 1: night people. Logan, You're kind of like a in between, 1221 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 1: be whatever you want to be. Like I like, I'm 1222 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,720 Speaker 1: more of a morning person. I guess, yeah, I'm in 1223 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:59,640 Speaker 1: bed by ten really yeah, ie, oh man, I'm a 1224 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,400 Speaker 1: night big time. I love my sleep. I'm in bed. 1225 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 1: I do the most at two am. Really, I do 1226 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,879 Speaker 1: everything at two o'clock in the morning. I organize my closet, 1227 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:17,560 Speaker 1: clean my bathroom, I do everything, do my laundry, fold laundry. 1228 01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,439 Speaker 1: I love two am. It's a good time for me. 1229 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,719 Speaker 1: I do everything I can to avoid things in the morning. 1230 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,280 Speaker 1: I schedule all of my appointments after eleven AM, like, 1231 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 1: I don't like to be awake and functioning before noon. 1232 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 1: Thank you, except for when I have to work, which 1233 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 1: that's probably why, because I work such intense hours that 1234 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 1: when I'm not working, I'm like, I just no, please, 1235 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,800 Speaker 1: I want to avoid any type of normal nine to 1236 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:49,479 Speaker 1: five schedule. Thank you. Good night. So if you could 1237 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:53,320 Speaker 1: have like a fictional character that's like your ideal boyfriend 1238 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:57,599 Speaker 1: or girlfriend, what would that fictional character be? Oh my god, 1239 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:02,200 Speaker 1: you mean like like like bad boss on Friends or something? Yeah, 1240 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:07,760 Speaker 1: like exactly, Well, I was going with Batman Friends, was it? Was? It? 1241 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,639 Speaker 1: Really my first choice? The guy in the Notebook. What's 1242 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:20,759 Speaker 1: his name? Ry actor Ryan Goslin from the Notebook. Yeah, okay, 1243 01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 1: that's a good one. Dirty dancing, Patrick Swayze, that's a 1244 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:32,680 Speaker 1: good one. Okay, Chase, I don't know, Oh, I know 1245 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:39,360 Speaker 1: who you would do? And Karen Knightley Taylor, what was 1246 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:44,639 Speaker 1: yours again? I mean, I I second McKinley's point there 1247 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 1: on Patrick Swayze and dirty dancing. It is just so good. 1248 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,599 Speaker 1: But I don't know, I can't I don't know Brad 1249 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: Pitt any anything that Brad Pitt ever. Did you know 1250 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna choose. I'm gonna choose Brad Pitt too. 1251 01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:01,599 Speaker 1: My favorite Brad Pitt is Brad Pitt Fight Club, Yes, 1252 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:07,559 Speaker 1: because there's just something so like cool about the shirts, 1253 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 1: the Hawaiian shirts, and he's just so I don't know, 1254 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:17,439 Speaker 1: he's smart, Brad pit in true romance. Like Hi, I 1255 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,599 Speaker 1: love that Brad pit I love all the Pits, all 1256 01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,080 Speaker 1: of them, every single one. What about a talent that 1257 01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 1: you guys wish you had that you don't. It'd be 1258 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:28,800 Speaker 1: nice to old to sing and I wish I don't 1259 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,000 Speaker 1: really have a lot of I wish I could dance. 1260 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,679 Speaker 1: I could dance. I wish I could sing. I wish 1261 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:39,080 Speaker 1: I had a musical like instrument talent. Yeah, I would 1262 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 1: say playing an instrument would be pretty cool. I was 1263 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,760 Speaker 1: good at painting, you could do that, drawing, You can 1264 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,800 Speaker 1: do all these things. You know what? I wish I 1265 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,080 Speaker 1: could do math. I can't do math, and it would 1266 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,880 Speaker 1: be fun, we go. It would be fun to be 1267 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,120 Speaker 1: to just like be good at math and be like, 1268 01:15:56,160 --> 01:16:00,640 Speaker 1: you know what, I know this I don't, okay, YEA 1269 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:05,840 Speaker 1: our last question, what would you take? Now? Just go 1270 01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:07,439 Speaker 1: for the sibling next to you and then we'll figure 1271 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,840 Speaker 1: it out later. But if you could take something from 1272 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:15,280 Speaker 1: them for your own to have a trait, a quality 1273 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,680 Speaker 1: that you wish that you had, what would that be? 1274 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,479 Speaker 1: And on the flip side of it is, then if 1275 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,639 Speaker 1: you could take something away from your sibling, some sort 1276 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,880 Speaker 1: of a stressor or or some sort of well it's 1277 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,320 Speaker 1: something you would want to alleviate from your sibling that 1278 01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,680 Speaker 1: would kind of help them in their life, you know, 1279 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,280 Speaker 1: or kind of help to grow or make their life easier. 1280 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, You're welcome. Jesus only ask this question seven 1281 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:51,960 Speaker 1: hundred times. I would take McKinley's outgoings, that's for sure. 1282 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:56,759 Speaker 1: And then I would take away her insecurities about her 1283 01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 1: face and her hair is more there. Okay, I have 1284 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:09,760 Speaker 1: body this SWORPHI what about you? I think with longing, 1285 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:15,920 Speaker 1: I would take her your I feel like the right 1286 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:22,280 Speaker 1: where is like independence, but yeah, her her adultness. I 1287 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:26,280 Speaker 1: think if you get that, I got that, got that 1288 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,280 Speaker 1: because like she adults very well and I'm still learning 1289 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,439 Speaker 1: even though I'm not that much, like she's not that 1290 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,240 Speaker 1: much older than me, but she's way off, like she's 1291 01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 1: popping off. Wait, yeah, I do a good job. I 1292 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:43,679 Speaker 1: take away from you is probably your stress, because feel 1293 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,920 Speaker 1: like you're stressed a lot. But even if I took 1294 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,759 Speaker 1: that away from you, I probably couldn't handle it myself. 1295 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:53,640 Speaker 1: I was not to have you wouldn't want it to 1296 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,160 Speaker 1: and maybe your anxiety said you feel like you have 1297 01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,720 Speaker 1: that too about your future. Because she's a Capricorn, so 1298 01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,599 Speaker 1: she's a hustler. What comes with a hustler is worrying stuff. 1299 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:12,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, good yes, Taylor Chase tailor Chase 1300 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 1: Chase too, I would take for I would take your 1301 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:21,720 Speaker 1: people skills like she's she can talk to anyone in 1302 01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:25,479 Speaker 1: any situation, and I would definitely take that because I'm 1303 01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,439 Speaker 1: not good at it, and I definitely need that. Sometimes 1304 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:31,639 Speaker 1: I crush it at small talk. Yeah, I'm so good 1305 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:35,000 Speaker 1: at it. I don't know why, but I can make 1306 01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:41,519 Speaker 1: anyone jump on the talk. Let him talk, That's what 1307 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:46,080 Speaker 1: I say, Right, you can. You're You're able to have 1308 01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:50,080 Speaker 1: a such a fast and easy conversation with anyone you encounter. 1309 01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:56,679 Speaker 1: And then i'd take away the public eye. Sometimes I'd 1310 01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:58,479 Speaker 1: allow you to be able to walk in New York 1311 01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,880 Speaker 1: and not get stared at or get stopped or like, 1312 01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,160 Speaker 1: just like to have a nice weekend where no nobody's 1313 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:12,240 Speaker 1: going to bother you. Ah, oh, Chase, that's my boy. Hey, 1314 01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 1: if you need an older brother, I can teach you. Okay, 1315 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:23,400 Speaker 1: let's see what I would take a trait from you that. 1316 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:30,679 Speaker 1: Let's see what would be probably your organization skills. You're 1317 01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,599 Speaker 1: really good at being organized all the time. And I 1318 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:39,160 Speaker 1: go through phases where I can procrastinate and things get 1319 01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,120 Speaker 1: really messy and then I can't take it anymore, and 1320 01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:45,320 Speaker 1: then I organize it. But you're always organized, and you're 1321 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,600 Speaker 1: always so you have like everything planned out, and you 1322 01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:50,559 Speaker 1: know when you're doing school and you always have your 1323 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,479 Speaker 1: homework done. I wish I was like that. And then 1324 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,160 Speaker 1: something I would a burden I would take from you 1325 01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:01,600 Speaker 1: or a stress would probably be pressure. I think you 1326 01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,960 Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on yourself. I feel like 1327 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,360 Speaker 1: you will always strive to be really good or feel 1328 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:12,200 Speaker 1: like you're doing the most and overachieving, which is great, 1329 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,320 Speaker 1: but also I feel like it puts a lot of 1330 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, you put a lot of pressure on yourself, 1331 01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,960 Speaker 1: and I would want to alleviate some of your personal 1332 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,720 Speaker 1: pressure that you put on yourself. I feel that I 1333 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:27,880 Speaker 1: love it. Oh, this was fun and I loved having 1334 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:33,519 Speaker 1: multiple siblings. Yeah, it's awesome. It's so great, awesome. I 1335 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,800 Speaker 1: wish you guys the best rest of this time. Yeah 1336 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,200 Speaker 1: with you guys are amazing. You guys are great, a 1337 01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 1: great family. Thank you so much. Go Broncos, Go broncos Y. 1338 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,720 Speaker 1: So fun, Thank you guys, so much fun. Thank you 1339 01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:54,960 Speaker 1: so much for talking to us. Sibling Rivalry is executive 1340 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:59,080 Speaker 1: goroost by Kate Hudson, Olira Hudson and Simsarna. Supervising producer 1341 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:03,160 Speaker 1: is Alison. President, editor is Josh Wendish. Music by Mark 1342 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:08,639 Speaker 1: Hudson aka Uncle Mark.