WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2024 Week 3 NFL MegaPod Betting Preview 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:08.920 Check It down Man. Thursday morning, September nineteenth, twenty twenty 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:12.160 four is the Beating the Book podcast megapod for week 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:16.239 number three in the National Football League. It's skill Alexander 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.680 hasn't gone well for me weeks one and two predicted 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:25.600 after a two year just stretch of greatness, and now 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:27.640 Todd is in the early lead, and I'm sure we'll 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:32.120 hear all about it. Our regular guests are regular staples 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:34.839 of the show, not guests. They're pillars. Todd wishing up 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.320 afore mentioned Todd wishing them from his mom's cork attic 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:42.040 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, star of the showtime Docuseriies Action, and 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.479 he's five and one out of the gate. How you doing, Todd? 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.559 Why don't you mention that I'm also not paying one 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:49.879 hundred dollars to park down at the Rivers and that 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.400 because they're not gonna screw me in that because I 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:54.600 got the card, So I don't care what you ends 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.000 are thinking. You're gonna make me pay one hundred dollars 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:58.720 just because everyone's going down to act for sure that 0:00:58.880 --> 0:00:59.280 new way. 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:02.440 Someone asked me to do a yins er accent on 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.039 a numbers game and I completely watched it today, completely 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:08.360 watched it. It was not good Will Hill, not from his 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.559 mom score attic, but Todd, what what was your comment 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.280 you'd like to make about Will every week? What is 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:13.520 the thing the story got it? 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.319 We're getting we're getting like one point oh five of 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.000 Willy every week. So we get a little bit more Willy, 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.800 and then a little bit more Willy, and it starts 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.160 to compound and then you look up, all of a sudden, 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:27.360 he's filling up the whole face area. So you gotta wonder. 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:29.920 I mean, I'm a guy who shouldn't be throwing stones, 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.120 as I have fluctuated over hundred pounds, but you know 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.920 I have a keen eye, and I could tell there's 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:37.080 more Willy to go around. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.080 Your keen observation. Keen eye is correct. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.520 Football season's taking its toll a little bit on the 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:46.520 on the exercise regime diets. 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:48.760 I need to tighten it up. I appreciate you pointing 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:49.600 it out, and. 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:51.560 Uh, this could be a little psydechics to you just 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.640 point out people that are getting fatter and just you know, 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.240 kind of shame them into losing the weight. 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.440 By the way, it's Will be from the should have 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:00.760 been more podcast. That's the thing about you, Todd. It 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.720 doesn't matter if you're three bills. You just it's outgoing 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.600 with you. You just just shoot at everybody, don't you. 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.720 Because I'm not part of society, and I don't think 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.000 there's anything wrong with being fat unless you ought to 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:13.959 be healthy. And my friend Willie, he wants to be healthy. 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:15.680 So I'm trying to help the guy out. 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.760 You've lost weight, right, you look thinner than you did 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:19.399 two weeks ago. 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.400 For really you do. I'm down about eight pounds. I've 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.200 had ten good days and four bad days, and I 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.280 played tennis four five times. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.880 Okay, oh look at you. You know what that tells me. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:35.480 You feel the heat from young Gil on the tennis court, 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.800 and you are ripping your sape yourself into shape. I 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.839 know exactly what's happening. It's over. He knows it's over. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.120 It's like Ali even one, he won the thriller in Manila, 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.519 but he knew he'd never be as great again. That's 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.800 you right now. I understand ladies and gentlemen are rotating 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.639 guest for the week, kind enough to spend time with us, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.480 and he's probably like, you know, ten minutes and He's like, 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.800 do I get to talk? It's Adam Chernoff from the 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.400 Simple Handicap app, which comes out how many times a week? Adam? 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.079 How many times you do it? Every day? 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.400 Five five days a week, five. 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:09.640 Days a week, Monday through Friday, right Monday through Friday, 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:15.720 no shift, right, yep, Friday, And Todd was just saying 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.120 off air how much he enjoyed it injury reports for 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:22.120 every team. Adam is also at Right Angle Sports. Uh, 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.760 Stevie Fesick was here. We could have like a complete 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.960 war going on because Stevie has it up. What does 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.440 he happen? It was crawl about Right Angle Todd? What's 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.320 his story? He just hates he. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:38.560 Has panties and a bunch in major Yes, Adam, Now. 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:44.360 No, Well, it gets overblown because everything on Twitter that 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.400 has posted is taken one hundred times more serious than 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.760 if it was said in person, where it's a non factor. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:54.880 So it's there's a heel and heal and face like 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.480 wrestling style thing going on here that is maybe taking 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:58.360 a bit out of proportion. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.120 That's how he's so much sugar. He's also sugar. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.040 That's how I introduced him on the podcast two weeks ago. 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.720 I said, really nice in person and the biggest asshole 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.920 you'll ever meet on Twitter, Steve, that's the intro. Thank 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:11.400 you for doing this. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.720 That is appreciated ninety nine out of one hundred people 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:15.520 on Twitter. That's reality especially. 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:19.760 Yes, I don't know what that is about gambling Twitter 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.479 where everybody has to be that way on Twitter, but 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.839 it just is, how's your season gone so far? First 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:25.200 two weeks? 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:30.200 Let's start there, Uh, treading water above water, but treading 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.560 water nothing too. It's been a weird opening two weeks. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.360 I would say, just a couple things in game not 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.919 expected and just a couple of bad breaks late on 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.839 fourth quarter stuff. So treading water above it, but could 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:43.480 be better. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.440 Could be better. You still in Canada, Adam? Is that 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.760 where you're coming to us from? Still in Canada? Yep? 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.120 Still same spot, not going, not going too far between 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.560 now and February. So locked in just south of Vancouver. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.159 Wasn't there a moment where you wanted to move to 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.719 la Am? I am I not remembering that correctly. 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:04.040 I in twenty twenty two, I desperately tried to and 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.479 it was just one of the hardest things that you 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.240 could ever do, is be a Canadian and get papers 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:13.159 in the United States. As a person who especially so 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.480 in this industry, in this side of the world, it 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.599 is it is very tough to prove and get the paperwork. 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:23.200 So it didn't work out. But as in as warm 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.000 of a climate as I can be here in Canada, 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:26.320 so at least think that. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.599 Damn Justin Trudeau. My girlfriend is from Toronto and getting 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:36.760 her back and forth during the pandemic was the worst. Oh, 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.640 it was just ridiculous. Todd wishnev is chomping at the 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.480 bit to give the records for the first two weeks, 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.560 So Todd, please let's have it. 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.840 I don't see me jumping at the bit at all. 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.320 I mean, I just think, you know, it's a reversion 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.400 to the me when you have to do. 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.240 We have the best care record, because this, for me 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.440 is the biggest sweat of the season of any immedia. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:03.360 I appreciate. I appreciate Adam so much for this, Like 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.479 he says, he genuinely will DM me afterwards and be like, 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.640 I'm more nervous about my megapod picks than i am 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.560 about every other picks the rest of the year. I 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.040 love that about correct, because it's this guy because he's 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:15.200 a shamer, is what he is. 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:20.000 My good friend Gilly, and my good friend Gilly had 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:22.239 the Texans minus six and a half. They were inside 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.280 the five yard like they're about to go in ball 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.120 and it's a sixth point when and Gilly thinks, what 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.000 we call the oh and three, let's do that one 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:36.080 more tiko oh and three. And by the way, he 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:40.039 also had Detroit in his teaser to go to oh 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.000 and two. So mister Gilly, as we predicted, was going 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:47.200 to have a regression to the mean after his thirty 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.839 eight and fifteen miracle season. He stands at one four 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.120 and one. Oh my god, he might as well just 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.880 tap out right now, and his teasers are oh and 0:06:56.000 --> 0:07:01.000 two Willie, this Thrilly Hill, it was it two and 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.520 one coming in. Had a lackluster one and two. One 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.040 of those bets the Panthers plus six had to make 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.840 him think, hey, who the hell am I three and 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.520 three for Willie? And he goes to zero and two 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.760 in a terrible way on his teaser. When the Philadelphia 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:22.560 Eagles did some ridiculous crap and lost the games, teezer. 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.040 Hey, hey, no, By the way, my other lost Titans 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.920 plus four was could have just as easily been a win. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:32.000 So why didn't you mention that too? 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:34.800 Oh, there's four terrible beats here. 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.080 Titan's Actually I will agree with him, Titans plus four 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:40.480 is probably a good good side. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:42.160 I just did the. 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.960 Old because of ill advised Billy Levies, who has costed 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.320 himself two games already. That's why. 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:49.440 Yeah, block blocks. 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.520 Nobody cares. I had a ho hum two and one 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.800 to go to five and one. How is that even possible? 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.960 That's like, I don't even know what the percentages. It's 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.280 five and one. I won my teaser as well to 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.640 go to one and one to lead the teasers, and 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.679 Adam Churnoff will represent the guests share today. The guests 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:13.760 set two, three and one and their teaser record one 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.760 and one as well. So Adam has his work cut 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.360 out for him to bring the guests back into alignment. 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:25.480 Here we go, There you go. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:29.760 That's the attitude. That was a lot of page like 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.560 scrolling for a lot of like not that much information. 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:33.439 What is all that about? 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:37.240 Like moving the sho Do we want to talk about 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:39.600 Sean Payton on size kicking the ball? 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.120 Okay, Well, here's the thing. Sean Payton was absolutely going 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.040 to be the Dumbo of the week until the whole 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.920 Nick Sirianni thing happened. Right, do we agree on that 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:52.480 the Sean Payton thing was he had one time out? 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.600 You think Sean Payton is worse? Okay, Sean Payton had 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.920 one time out left first of all. Before that, before that, 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.320 let me kaya, I wasn't prepared for this. Let me 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.120 let me get the exact detail because I don't want 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:04.640 to mess it up. 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:06.000 Kick thee. 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:09.760 He kicked the field goal at thirteen and nothing, but 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.559 I want to get exactly how much time anyway it was. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:11.920 It was. 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.319 It was in the fourth one one down. It was 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:17.960 about no no, no, no, no, not the first, not the 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:19.920 first one. The first one wasn't one forty. They were 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.800 down two thirteen and nothing, two touchdowns. He kicks a 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:28.000 field goal basically to avoid a shutout. It felt like right, 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.960 and you're like, okay, they get another field goal. So 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.400 then he kind of like had plausible deniabilities, like you 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.520 see now we only need one. But anyway, down thirteen 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:43.160 at that point he kicks the original field goal. Okay, 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.480 all right, we can quibble about that. They get it 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.120 to thirteen to six, they have one time out left 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:50.600 less than two minutes. I want to say it was 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:52.960 just over a minute left with one timeout. 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.400 One fifty one fifty four left when he when they 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.079 kicked the field goal, and then the. 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.920 Steelers had they kicked the field goal. Okay, hold on, 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.440 hold on, stop to Tod, stop talking, Tot, stop talking 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.120 for a second. So no, but you're not one fifty 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:11.240 four left right. That's when he had to declare. He 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.600 had to say, I do declare an on side kick, 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.040 and he did not declare an on side kick. They 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.959 just kicked away with one time out left, so they 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:22.720 ended up as you say, the Steelers then had the 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.319 ball after that, right, and then they ended up the 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:29.400 Broncos did, with the ball at their own nineteen yard 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:34.120 line with nine seconds left in the game. That was 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:34.640 the scenario. 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.800 It sounds so much worse when you say it out 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:38.040 loud a few days later. 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:42.720 It's so bad. What was he doing? What's the xbox? 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:43.080 Also? 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.800 Did you mention too he punted with it was under 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.640 eight minutes left, down ten and he punted on like 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:49.760 fourth and six or something. 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:51.560 Oh I didn't I didn't mention that. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.360 Wow, Wait, I'll tell you either. There was there was 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.880 seven seven forty eight to go, they're down thirteen to 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.760 three fourth and eight from the Denver thirty three. They 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:02.600 decided to punt. 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.040 Yeah, okay, also also. 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.800 Not as egregious as the other three egregious heads. 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.439 No, well, the lead changing the rules and going from 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:14.680 five quarters to four quarters. 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:16.560 I think really caught Sean payonof guard this week. 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:22.000 It's really really it's like when it's like when Todd 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:23.920 has to come up with his three best bets, He's like, oh, 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.960 let me see. Wait, so you you Todd believed that 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:29.679 was worse than Nick Sirianni. 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.720 You know, I mean, I obviously I would have liked 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.280 Nick Siriana just line up and do tush push two 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.240 times in a row and that would have been the 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.960 end of that. But but you know, I understand, Okay, 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:43.840 he's he throws the ball out, It's oh, yes, do 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.480 just catch it? Fine, whatever it's bad. I'm not saying 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.720 it's not bad. I'm just saying I don't understand the 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.360 on Science kick thing at all. Can you not do 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:56.000 the math? How are you going to get the ball? 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.679 The most you're gonna have is fifteen seconds left? How 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:00.920 I don't I don't even understand what thinking. 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.480 I kind of understand what you're saying, because as bad 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.000 as the Sirianni thing was, and you can't like the 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.240 Sirianni thing, and I get it. There were some people 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:10.760 on Twitter that were pushing back like it was a 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.679 simple play call. He just should have caught it. You 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:16.520 just can't allow for that possibility. Right. The win probability 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.719 goes from you're dead too, here's a free get out 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:20.400 of jail card. 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:20.840 Right. 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.480 But you're kind of right, I think todd because while 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.440 Sirianni and the Eagles can at least say, well, this 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.160 was the play call and it should have worked, there 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.200 is no response from Sean Payton. Right. There is no 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:34.440 possible explanation. 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.280 Hold on, let's stop. Is your grievance with Sirianni the 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.840 third or the fourth down call or a combo of both. 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:43.440 Let's put this in context. 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:49.680 My grievance with Sirianni was was I went through it 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.840 the other day? Was A was a number of things. 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:57.080 One he was he was right to decline the off 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.120 side first of all. That was the Atlanta was right 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:03.040 to try to jump off. Sirianni was right to decline 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.520 the off side when they got to third and three 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.080 at the ten with no timeouts left for Atlanta. My 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.720 problem was you cannot call a pass play there because 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.640 you cannot allow for the possibility of a stoppage of 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.920 the clock. You should run it, you should run it again. 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.520 There's you know, and then people can quibble about, oh, well, 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:22.959 then you could have passed on fourth down. There's like 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.360 all kinds of other things, but my biggest issue was 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:30.240 that you cannot pass on third down. And by the way, 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:34.640 also after that, like the Eagles only needed fifteen to 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:36.440 twenty yards to get in field goal range, you also 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.280 can't throw the ball down field like he did and 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.480 risk that kind of pick also. But the real thing 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:45.000 was the third down play you, Adam, what was your takeover? 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.520 Well? I pushed back there a little bit because I 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.440 would rather have that play call run to win the 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:54.040 game than to set yourself up to defend the clock. 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.800 And I think pregame ninety nine out of one hundred 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.440 Eagles fans, player staff, whatever you want to put it on, 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.160 you said there was a wide open pass to Barkley 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.800 on a third and three to win the game. Do 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.280 you want that as the option? I don't think anybody 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.920 is saying no. To that and the. 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:14.120 Most drops also, he has a million he does in 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:14.640 that spot. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.359 I mean, Atlanta had nine guys at the line of scrimmage, 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.480 and so I don't even if it was a run play, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.160 it's a dead run play there's and that was his 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.800 defense after the game, He's like, they've been junking up 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.200 the middle and they weren't gaining anything on that third 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.880 down run play. Wait, there's a wide open play for 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:33.720 Barkley in the flat to win the game. I don't 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.400 think that's a I think the fourth field goal was 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:38.160 that disaster. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.120 I agree with you, that's the part I left. The 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.320 fourth down field goal was also a disaster because, as 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:49.360 we talked about it, lets it then forces Atlanta to 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.240 have to go for the touchdown as opposed to changing 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.080 the calculus for the field goal. Right, that's what you 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:54.800 were say, Will. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.320 But I also liked it. If you don't get it 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:01.080 on fourth and you're defending up three, the way you 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.240 defend up three in that scenario is much different than 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.520 the way you defend up six in the spot that 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.120 they were. I think in that it makes it a 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.240 lot more straightforward for what you want to do. And 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.720 we saw the Eagles caught in between. That field goal 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.760 was a disaster. I don't hate the third one hundred 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.840 pall in the same way I don't hate what Shane 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.760 Stiken did on fourth and two week eighteen last year 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.600 against the Texans, which was a similar play call but 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:29.040 to the other side, putting everybody on the spot trying 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.240 to bring that up. But that game against Houston passed 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.560 a two minute warning where they were driving and they 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.000 elected to throw the backup running back. I mean, you 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.320 got the exact look you wanted to win the game. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.320 Both guys dropped it, So to me, that's I don't 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:44.800 hate that, but I hate the fourth down decision. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.480 We agree completely on the fourth down decision to get 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.280 the field goal, not to give a villa as I 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.200 went through when I went through it on a clip 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.080 on Twitter on a Numbers game, I completely agree with 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:56.640 you about the fourth down field goal. You should never 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.680 have kick the field goal there. We're going to disagree 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.080 on the third because everything you're saying is right right. 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.320 It was a play they had it. The nine guys 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:08.040 up stacked up top. They are the inventors and the 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.960 perfectors of the tushbush, the tuflest pushes. We like to 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.640 call it here on the show, they were gaining five 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.840 point five yards a clip on the ground, Jalen Hurst 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.200 was gaining six point five yards a clip. I am 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.440 not letting the defense nine guys are not dictating to 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.960 me a sequence of plays that could put the game 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.840 out of reach by clock. The clock is the most 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.480 important thing at that point and the risk reward assessment 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:36.160 of that drop. And this is not armchair quarterbacking. After 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.800 the fact, when it happened, I was I could not 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.960 believe that they did that. I couldn't. It wasn't even 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.080 in my mind that they would do it. But I 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.680 understand what you're saying. At the same time, I can't 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:49.440 believe they did it. 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.520 Okay, I have another question to push back on the 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.080 spot here. The Eagles on the second drive of the 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.840 game were third and four at the Atlanta eight. Should 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.000 should he be criticized for not running the touch push 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:06.119 twice in that scenario because he didn't? Yes, and they 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.520 ended up saying he fells that on him as well. 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:09.320 Process wise. 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.359 Wait, wait, are you talking about the one where they 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.040 went for it on fourth down? 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:15.280 Yes, it was. 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.600 Instead they should have just kicked the field goal. 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:23.080 They went past past late first quarter inside the Atlanta ten, 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.600 third and four, fourth and four. Didn't get it right. 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.879 They kicked the field Is that criticizable as well? 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:31.480 Yeah, they should have kicked the field goal there not 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.040 for the reasons you're trying to get me to say, 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.119 it's uncriticizable. They should have kicked. Wow, we should just 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.560 kick the point. We're not going No, we're not going 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.280 both ways. No, we're not going both ways. That's the 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.679 first quarter of a game where just take the points. 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.480 Don't be allergic to field goals. This was a scenario 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:50.280 with win probability, where the only thing that matters is 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.760 the clock to end this game. I completely view those 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:54.800 two things as differently. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:59.240 I did less three verse fourth and third and four 0:17:59.280 --> 0:17:59.679 or whatever. 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.320 But they're gaining five and a half on the ground 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.120 every time they give the ball to the running back 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:09.240 to Hurtz, So for four yards two plays seems easy. 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.320 If you're If you're trying to get me to say 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.919 that the that you must behave the same way in 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:16.680 a fourth quarter clinching scenario versus a zero zero game 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.520 where you can just take three points. I disagree with 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.800 the premise. I don't think it's the same thing. I 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.560 don't think you can apply those things the same way. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:28.640 So he should have. You're saying you should have kicked 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.760 on the second drive of the game. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:31.280 Yeah he should. 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.160 I couldn't believe he didn't take that. I didn't. Yeah, 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.200 I didn't believe. I couldn't believe he didn't take the points. Then, 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:39.960 I don't these teams that are allergic to field goals 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.480 and a zero zero game. I mean, it's four yards. 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.480 It's you know, it's fourth and four at that point. 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.680 It's not the third and four thinking push push twice. 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:52.840 They didn't toush push on the third down, So it's 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.159 not the same scenario. It's fourth and four at that 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:59.199 point in the first quarter. It's different. It's it's not 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:01.400 the same thing. I disagree with the line. I don't. 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.200 I don't have the numbers, and I wish I did. 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.159 There's one hundred people, including yourself, that are smarter for 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:10.000 me on this, but I just I'm curious how to 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.960 me the like, the end of game stuff always gets 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.800 magnified a hundred times more than what happens earlier in 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.000 the game, despite it often being similar down and distance 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:22.480 and play calling structures. And I just sometimes I think 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.160 that gets in a similar way to Dan Campbell last 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:27.639 year in the NFC Championship. It was the later calls 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.880 that got him, but it was something that was done 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:33.000 for the majority of the season behind them, and then 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.840 it was like that one gets blown up because of it. 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.160 I understand what you're trying to say, but to an extent. 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:40.040 No, I understand what you're trying to say. But that 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:43.679 fourth quarter scenario, it's the the clock can end it 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.679 kind of scenario that doesn't apply to the first quarter thing. 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:50.159 You're right saying, like it started third and four as 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.800 the same scenario, but everything else is different that claw 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:54.200 you know. 0:19:54.160 --> 0:20:00.480 What else could have ended it? Though a first down 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:05.000 on Saquon Barkley catching the football would have ended the game. 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:11.840 Too, right, But we all agree that a dropped pass 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:16.159 is far more likely in that scenario than say, a 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:20.080 fumble on a run. Right, So you're opening yourself up 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:24.399 to a get out of jail free card possibility that 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.840 wouldn't otherwise exist, And that, to me is the key point. 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:32.080 You have them done, but just to give them life, 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:36.159 and that's what happened. You can't. To me, that's the 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:39.439 risk reward assessment. It's not armchair quarterbacking after he dropped it. 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:42.720 I couldn't believe they even tried it because of that assessment, 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:44.680 and I don't. I disagree with the premise that it's 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:46.760 the same thing as the first quarter thing. We can 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:47.800 argue about this for a day. 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.359 Okay, So a fair way to put this in context 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:53.720 and wrap it would be that they should have ran 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:57.000 the ball on third down and then throwing it on 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:59.560 fourth if they didn't gain anything to try and get 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.240 the first down, rather than kicking the field goal. 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.199 That fair to say they should have. They should have 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:05.600 run on third down and reassessed depending on how many 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:10.000 yards they got on third down, Right, Like I think it's. 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.640 The field goal should have never been an option ever. 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:15.919 Never Ever, I agree with you on that. Yeah, what 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:17.440 else do we Todd? Did you have an in game 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:18.879 scenario you wanted to talk about it? 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.240 Yes? I do. The whole point was Adam though Sean 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:24.600 Payton needs to on site to kick the ball. That 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:25.200 was me. 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.280 There's no, it didn't happen. It's indefensible. 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:35.440 No, I do I actually understand you're you're thinking there, Todd, 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.280 which is there is no defense for the Sean Payton 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:40.320 one right to me? 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:42.880 I don't see it unless he thinks he can block 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:44.679 u pun on fourth down more than he can on 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:48.840 side kick it. But I don't see it anyways. Will's 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.400 gained another two pounds in the in the meantime. 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:55.159 So that's not funny feelings. 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:56.520 It's not funny brutal. 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:02.320 So one last comment on the Seohn Payton thing. I 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.200 was not born in nineteen eighty eight, that is when 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:08.720 he was first coaching, so it's not like he's been 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.359 around forever and he still makes that gaff. How do 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.159 you get to that point, after nearly forty years of 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:16.440 doing this, that you're in that scenario. I don't understand. 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:18.639 That's why I said. That's why I said, Adam, I 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.159 texted him. I said something that fishy is going on, 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:24.600 because there's no way Peyton doesn't know that if he 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:26.600 does this, he's going to have no time out left. 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:29.280 So I don't know how to explain that. There's no 0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:32.600 explanation of a forty year NFL coach who won the 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:35.879 Super Bowl not being able to understand there's gonna be 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.240 no time left when he gets the goddamn ball back. 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:40.879 So I just to me, it's the dumbest thing I've 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:42.720 ever heard in my life. I just can't even believe 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:43.240 it happened. 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:47.520 And it's not even like a point differential keeping like 0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:49.840 making it look better, because even if you don't get 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:52.240 the onside kicked or just kneeling it out anyway. So 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.160 I don't know what the lodger like, they weren't trying 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:56.000 to score. If they don't get it, I don't get it. 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.520 Is it possible he just lost his fastball? Like players 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:01.119 just get older, and like he's looking now, he's sixty. 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.680 It's not like he's ancient, but players get old and 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:05.600 aren't good anymore. Is it possible he's just old and 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:06.359 not good anymore? 0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:06.800 I don't know. 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:10.080 Listen, this is not in your fastballs. Losing directions to 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.760 the stadium and driving with the wrong city kickoff. 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:18.120 That's me, I say on the radio side, I say 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.080 all the time I go. The two biggest lies. I said, 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.199 there's only one bigger lie in sports that Ega is 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.040 only a clay court tennis player. Right, that's the biggest 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:28.200 lion sports two. Sean Payton being a quarterback whisperer. 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:28.439 Right. 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.919 I think everything about Sean Payton, this reputation that he 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:35.040 has as being this great coach is all one big lie. 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:38.320 Drew Brees came to him as a finished product. I 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:41.399 only had a shoulder injury in San Diego, but he 0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:45.840 was like a great free agent quarterback acquisition. I will 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:48.640 hang up and wait to see how many other quarterbacks 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:52.959 Drew Brees has had success with the answer is zero, nobody, 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:56.119 And somehow he has this reputation as this great quarterback. 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.480 Whisper is the word I use, is the word I 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.680 hear all the time. Bo Nick, good luck whispering him 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:04.000 up by the way. And then that thing, what you 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.840 what will was talking about? I remember, I'm old enough 0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:10.879 to remember Joe Gibbs two point zero what is shacks 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.800 line thirty nine twenty nine? Joe Gibbs two point oh 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:15.600 was not Joe Gibbs one point oh, like he had 0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:16.840 lost his fast. 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:20.360 Joe gibbsonew not to on sites kicked in that scenario. 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:21.440 I think, yeah. 0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:24.160 But there were times where Greg Williams, as the defensive coordinator, 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:25.879 had to explain to him a couple of things like 0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:28.640 he couldn't like call time out twice in a row 0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:30.920 on a kick or some shit right like. So there 0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:34.040 was some stuff. So I think will Is will might 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:34.920 be onto something too. 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:37.360 One last thing was taking two. 0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.679 I don't understand why he put this sort of pressure 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:42.840 on Nicks, on himself. I mean, he talked a big 0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:45.919 game about Nicks, like, oh, the draft combine blew us away. 0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:47.840 He built him up like he was going to be 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:52.240 this next, you know, big time quarterback. He again, maybe 0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:53.919 he had his reasons, but wouldn't you just sort of 0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:55.920 slow play it. Hey, he's coming along nicely. We'll see 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:57.920 we see things like I mean, you can you can 0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.640 compliment him without putting all this U sure where now 0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.960 people are kind of mocking him, and rightfully so where 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.080 you built him into I'll just wait, wait till you 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:06.080 see how good this kid is. 0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:07.640 And I remember Tod mcsha. 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.800 I think it was said he talked like thirteen different 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.000 scouts NFL people, and not one. 0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:14.760 Of them had a first round great on bo Nick. 0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:16.639 So there were some arrogance with this pick, and there 0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:18.640 were some arrogance since they picked him, you know, in. 0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:19.680 Terms of how this was handled. 0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.680 Well, he's kind of the example, Oh sorry, Gil, go ahead, 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:24.720 go ahead, go ahead. 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:26.399 I was going to say, I think he was in 0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.919 a weird spot where it was such a blunder with Russ, 0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:31.960 and he pushed to get him out of there so 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.120 much that he kind of had to take his his 0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:38.080 stance and to why they were backing him to give 0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:41.040 some sort of like optics and some hope around that. 0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.960 But I do think that league wide, just with head 0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:47.520 coaching tenures becoming so short cycled, I think we're seeing 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.000 a lot of coaches take a stand with a quarterback 0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.680 that they're attached to to lead them to success, to 0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.600 almost justify their job and extend it. And like it 0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.680 gets back to the point with Breeze and Peyton or 0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:01.720 even Brady and Belichick, where I think we're starting to 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:04.960 see that the quarterback perhaps had a little bit more 0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.560 impact than the coach maybe did. And so that's maybe 0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:10.560 why we're starting to see all of these coaches around 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.119 the league just stand up for this younger quarterback or 0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:15.400 the guy they bring in to almost justify their job 0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:17.280 in a weird way. I think that's which of a 0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.240 new dynamic building, which. 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:21.560 Is why Joe Jacksonson Gibbs is the greatest NFL head 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.320 coach has ever lived. The thisman Williams rippon three Super 0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:26.920 Bowls and also about that. 0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:29.560 Arry Bonds was a better NFL coach. I was going 0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.640 to make a box. Uh. 0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:37.959 Sean Payton came in job crushing Nathaniel Hackett in a 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:41.800 way that coaching fraternity, that the coaching fraternity dictates you 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.960 never do to another coach. He was an asshole to Hackett. 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.760 He was further an asshole to Russell Wilson, who deserved 0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:52.920 for forever forever bad Russell Wilson has become deserved more 0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:58.240 fucking respect. Excuse my French right. And Sean Payton, by 0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:02.320 the way, was a was an nineteen eighty seven scab 0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:06.359 that has somehow gotten washed away in history. Also, like, 0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:10.960 I'm surprised that hasn't statement. So there's all these different things. 0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:12.800 And by the way, I'm not like, I'm not the 0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.080 guy who like goes crazy about nineteen eighty seven scabs, 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.840 but the NFL fraternity usually does, or did for a while, 0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:23.320 hate on those people who broke the picket line at 0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.400 that point in nineteen eighty seven, and Peyton was one 0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:28.199 of those guys. So like, I don't understand why he 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.240 is whole he is held in this massive reverence. Good 0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:33.600 for you, you won a Super Bowl with Drew Brees Mazotov. 0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:36.960 I'm so happy for you, but everything you've done since 0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:40.760 is suspect, both on and off the field. 0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:44.159 Anyway, Sorry, okay, anyways, can I give you one? I 0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:47.280 had a delicious in game that I that I wanted 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:48.919 to talk about that I think a lot of people 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:53.399 would help them. Towards the end of game, Cincinnati is 0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:58.119 playing the Kansas City Chiefs. It's Cincinnati's ball, first down 0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.520 at their own sixteen with seven minutes left, and they're 0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:05.800 leading twenty five to twenty three. So now here's the thing. 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.399 If you're just watching the game, you have to be 0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.199 looking at the apps, because the apps are like a 0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.200 player two ahead of what's going on. And I immediately 0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.200 look up my app and I see it's third down 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.560 and four at the Cincinnati twenty two with about five 0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:23.280 forty five to go. Now, so at that point, they 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:27.040 have the total at fifty three and a half, which 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.439 is five and a half more points. A touchdown beats you, 0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:31.239 but if it's just going to be a field goal 0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:33.840 or nothing, you're going to win the under, right, So 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.399 at that point I took under fifty three and a 0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:39.480 half right before that third down and four play with 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.800 five and a half to go, reason being if Cincinnati 0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:46.880 gets the first down. It's now first and ten for Cincinnati, 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.800 somewhere around their own thirty issue right, and there's only 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.240 five minutes left. They're going to try to grind out 0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.360 the clock and win the game like that. Okay, if 0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.000 they don't get it, then they kick the ball to 0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:01.200 Kansas City who's down twenty five twenty three. And Kansas 0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:03.040 City gets the ball with about five minutes to go, 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.400 they may try to grind it down and just kick 0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.600 a field goal to win it like that. So anyways, 0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:10.920 what ended up happening was the best case scenario. Cincinnati 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.600 got another first down or two punted the ball. By 0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.760 the time the Kansas City gets it back, there's like 0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.200 two forty five to go, and I'm probably gonna win 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.520 for sure because Kansas City, if they get in field 0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:22.120 goal range, they're just gonna kick the field goal to 0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.200 win it twenty six to twenty five, which is exactly 0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.120 what happened. But to me, the risk reward there of 0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:33.040 avoiding a touchdown in that scenario is gigantic because there's 0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.000 very little cases for touchdowns there. Nobody wants to get 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.600 a touchdown, you know, Cincinnati just wants to get more 0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.200 first downs and they've got a huge long field in 0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:42.920 front of them to try to do it. And then 0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.520 if Kansasity's gonna get the ball back, they don't want 0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:47.080 to get a touchdown. They want to grind the clock 0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:48.480 down and kick the field goal to win the game. 0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:50.200 So to me, I thought that was one of the 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.080 best end gamers that I've had in a long time, 0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.360 in the sense that you know, understanding what the teams 0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.600 are trying to accomplish it toward the end of the game. 0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.480 Nice smarty pants, you are a good podcast. 0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:04.040 I'll see you guys next week. This was fun. 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:07.920 No, that was a good one. I am by the way, 0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:09.280 were you and all? This has nothing to do with 0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:11.160 your end game, but but the result of that game. 0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:15.280 You know, the amazing stat of the NFL field goal 0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:20.640 kickers are thirty five of thirty nine on field goals 0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.040 of fifty plus yards this year and Justin Tucker's oh 0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:25.240 win two. So there really thirty five and thirty seven 0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.880 outside of what we believe is the best kicker in 0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.120 the NFL and Justin Tucker. We'll see if that's the case. 0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:31.360 Were you amazed? 0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:36.320 How about that? Was Don gil yes over over three 0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.320 and a half field goals the game props typically plus 0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:43.320 one point fifteen. It is twenty seven and five. 0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:50.160 Wow, wow, oh man edible twenty seven and five. 0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.840 Because you have Tea betting at Adam. Are they catching 0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:54.440 up at all or no? 0:30:55.920 --> 0:31:00.160 So I tried to round Robin All sixteen last week 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:04.000 and it was tough to get down and get it around. 0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:08.120 But there's been a full effort into doing so and 0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:10.959 it's been very good. But these primetime games where it's 0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.520 pretty wide open and you get all the alternates has 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:15.920 been has been excellent so far. So I don't know. 0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:19.280 I think it's partially obviously, kickers are way better than 0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:22.560 they ever have been before. But like you think about 0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:26.280 you think about five years. Five years ago, the average 0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:28.640 starting field position was the twenty two. You need it 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.960 realistically four third down or four first downs to get 0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:35.320 into range. Now teams are starting at the thirty. But 0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:37.680 you're getting longer attempts than ever before. I mean, you 0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:41.360 get the ball now and you're twenty one, twenty two 0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.480 yards away from a realistic attempt. It's never happened before. 0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:48.120 And we're seeing like all the defensive changes, a lot 0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:50.800 more shell defense, keeping everything in front. It's harder to 0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.040 get downfield, but teams are just allowing teams to get 0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.560 across midfield like they're it's not super aggressive. Off of 0:31:57.600 --> 0:31:59.800 these early plays, they tightened up in the red zone. 0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:01.800 Seen crazy high rates of field. 0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:05.440 Goals the Jets games over three and a half plus 0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:07.360 one oh eight, So I guess they haven't really been 0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:08.160 moving him yet. 0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.880 No, it's I feel it's been very consistent. It's usually 0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.360 like if there's a lower total game like this, it'll 0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:16.400 be in that plus one oh five plus one ten 0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.760 and then it'll kind of linger around in that. So 0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:20.760 it's it's been very consistent so far. 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:23.240 I was going to say, at the end of that 0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:27.000 Kansas City Cincinnati game, were you as amazed as as 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:32.880 I was about the nonchalance with which the Chiefs were like, yeah, 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.400 we'll just kick a fifty one yard or to win it, 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:36.440 like it was an extra. 0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.960 Yeah, that's not even a thing anymore. It really isn't. 0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.400 Yeah, they were treating like it was an old school 0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:45.920 extra point, like they were at the two yard line. 0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:47.720 It was like, it's still fifty plus yards. 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.120 Yeah, problem, It's just it was like, yeah, we'll just 0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:53.400 kick it, and Bucker bisected the uprights like it wasn't. 0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.840 Even which was That's why they have to move the 0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:59.360 goalposts in and make it more exciting, because I don't 0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:01.920 find it at all. When you get to the thirty 0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.440 eight yard line and you kick a fifty five yard 0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:06.640 field goal, it's just stupid. I don't even like it. 0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:11.720 You know what the answer is, Todd, You put a 0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.600 so you have the goal posts, right, you have the crossbar. 0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:18.640 You put a top post across so it becomes a square. 0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:20.640 Oh look at you. 0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.360 There you go. That's interesting. 0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.120 But I don't like that. I like that. I like 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:26.440 the field goal post moved in. 0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:27.600 Your head just exploded. 0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:32.160 I saw you processed interesting idea. It is interesting. Don't 0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.120 get me wrong. I still would rather have like the 0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:37.040 posts moved in, because then you don't lose the whole 0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.760 idea of football, doesn't become like a silly thing like 0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:41.920 four point shots in NBA or something. 0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:43.280 If you want to go. 0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:46.240 To post ball type on some of those posts, no not, 0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:48.000 it doesn't have to be arena ball type. But I'm 0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:50.960 sure they could figure out exactly how far they have 0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:52.880 to move them in to make a fifty five yard 0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.840 field goal. Now like a forty percent play as opposed 0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:57.960 to a seventy percent play. I don't like a seventy 0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.000 percent Do you guys like it? Do you guys like 0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.800 enjoy watching fifty five yard field goals be a seventy 0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:06.120 percent play? I can't stand for Yeah, that's. 0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:06.520 Great, but. 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:09.880 Forget about the props for a second, just for the 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.440 aesthetic of the game. To me, I think you need 0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.880 to be the defense. How is the defense going to 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:17.799 stop people from getting the thirty eight yard Linde? It's 0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:21.560 getting ridiculous? Can the defense get something? My god, you 0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:23.840 know it's I don't you know. 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.120 Larry David's suggestion is to this. He was on Rich 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:28.200 Eisen Show and he and he was allowed. He's like, 0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:33.960 what would suggestions? What would you change? He says, get 0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.680 rid of the goalposts, get rid of the goalpost, like 0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.120 get no field goal kicking, just get rid of it. 0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.839 Because he in his brain right, He's like, what does 0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.920 that have to anything to do with football anyway? 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:44.520 You know? 0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.719 Which is which is a pretty amusing point. And then 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.600 his second one was give me a couple of years 0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:50.520 to decide about punters too, Like I don't know if 0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:54.239 I want punters anymore either. So it's like I mean 0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:59.040 it's different. That's just the turn off box theory is 0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:00.480 there is what we're going with the other one. 0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:02.560 I played the game forever with. 0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:05.319 I was gonna say, if we played the game forever 0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.279 with no kickers and no punters, nobody would be sitting 0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:09.359 here saying we need kickers and punters. But because it's 0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.480 always been that way, it's just it's the way it is. 0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:12.839 I will say, I don't know what you guys think. 0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.319 It doesn't bother my. You know, enjoyment of the game 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.640 one thing. Watching every minute of these games the last 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.279 couple of weeks, thing that bothers me way more. And 0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:23.480 this was bad Sunday night Texans bears the flags. It 0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.879 just seems like you've been out of control. 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:31.279 I love a good I love a good unnecessary roughness 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:34.840 flag in my game. I like it that that spike 0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:37.920 of Jalen Hurts when he spiked the football. Imagine if 0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:39.799 you're a young kid watching that and you see that 0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.200 violent act on the field of him spiking the football 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:43.880 after a first down, what are you thinking? 0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.880 By the way, And I hope people get that. I 0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:50.240 hope people understand. 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:51.840 People did not get. 0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.439 Well actually shot at Adam and sent it to Gil 0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:57.000 the other day. 0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:01.640 That was funny, alkins. Guy was shooting into the stands, 0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.000 and then you guys all correctly told me that you're 0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:06.520 not allowed to shoot. You know, I allowed to pretend shooting. 0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:08.840 But then somebody said, well what if he was shooting 0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:11.200 T shirts into the stands. It's like, oh, now we're 0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.799 gonna we're gonna like have the refs figure out what 0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:17.560 the celebration is. It's like, come on, that was to 0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:19.880 me at it whatever? Just no more, fIF. 0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:24.080 Right, let's talk about Thursday night? Is it one of 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.479 your best bets at all? Does anybody have a best 0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:27.479 bet on tonight's game? 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:29.920 No? 0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:34.520 No, I kind of want to. And I know Adam's 0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:36.000 gonna hate me because I think I know where Adam 0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:40.040 stands on this game tonight. But I think I want 0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:43.160 to make the Patriots my third. I didn't think me 0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.239 and Adam would be at odds on all this stuff, 0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:46.680 but I think I think I want to make the 0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:49.000 Patriots my third. But it's six now, it's not six 0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:49.920 and a half, right. 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:51.319 I have six? 0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:52.320 It is six flats? 0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:56.719 Yeah yeah, and I keep I keep losing. Oh yeah, 0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.440 it's mattered twice already to me, on this podcast a 0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:04.839 half point. I am going to make it my number three. 0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:09.000 I just think low total. Six points. Yeah, I'm gonna 0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:12.719 I'm gonna kill myself after this, but six points. I 0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:16.920 think again, the Patriots are run heavy. There was a 0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:18.800 stat about by the way, I think it's gonna be 0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:22.239 a very ugly game tonight. That's my feeling. But Patriots 0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.200 have used six or more offensive linemen twenty six plays 0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:26.879 this season. They've run it on twenty five of them. 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:30.440 Perssett gets pressured at forty four percent. That's the second 0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.000 highest rate in the league. Jets have generated the highest pressure, 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:35.880 so they're gonna run. They have a couple offensive linemen 0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.560 out on the left side, but the Jets also have 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:42.080 a bevy of injuries on the defensive side. Jermaine Johnson 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:46.600 is hurt like you. Foto is hurt. Hassan Redick is 0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:50.200 not there. CJ. Moseley is a game time decision. And 0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:53.040 I just think Rogers so far with the short passing 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:57.000 games averaging five point four yard air yards downfield, third 0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:02.040 lowest among quarterbacks. Both teams have like top ten punt rate. 0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.760 New England's third, New York is seventh. I just feel 0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:07.200 like it's going to be low scoring, and if you're 0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:11.280 giving me six points with that clock and that total, 0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.680 I just I'll take the points and live with it. 0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:16.800 It's not gonna be a fun bet or a fun watch, 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.760 but I'll happily take the points in this ball game. Adam, 0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:21.200 tell me why. 0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:24.200 I do think we see a different version of the 0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:27.840 Jets offense tonight. I think if Seattle's offense last week 0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:31.000 in Foxbrow was any indication of how teams want to 0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.719 approach them, because I don't. I mean, Gino throwing the 0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.920 football forty four times last week was just wild to me. 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.399 And so the Jets have not been able to run 0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:43.239 at all. And I just wonder if this becomes a 0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:45.759 bigger Rogers game. They don't really want him to be 0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.840 like a thirty plus attempt guy he might be tonight. 0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:52.520 Can you imagine the drama tonight if it was to 0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:54.520 zero to two Jets versus the two and oh Patriots, 0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:59.640 which we weren't that far away from him, like Salama, Yeah, 0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:00.400 we really were. 0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:02.680 This is awesome. 0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:04.719 This is I mean last year Week one was a 0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:06.960 massive home game for the Jets that obviously ended in 0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:10.680 it ended in celebration, but that was masked by just 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.000 terror and doom for the rest of the season. But 0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:17.919 this is probably the biggest Jets home game since the 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:21.200 decker end zone catch against the Pats in twenty fifteen 0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:23.600 late in the season, probably, if I had to put 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.640 my spot on it, so like that that crowd last 0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:30.399 year Week one was as ridiculous of a Jets crowd 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:32.680 as there's been in forever. To me, this is a 0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:33.799 big game for New York. 0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:36.719 You are a Jets fan, correct, Adam, Now that I'm 0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:37.440 thinking about. 0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:42.080 It, yes, I am. It's it's been a long, long, 0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:43.400 long life of stuff. 0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:46.960 Front Runner. Yeah, I kind of agree with you. 0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:50.480 I kind of agree with you. Like what did the 0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:52.920 Patriots do in the first two weeks of the season 0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:55.880 to make people think that it's not a If they 0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.920 had Jakobe Weressett starting and just doing game management, they 0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.880 could win six, seven, eight games. They were hanging right 0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:03.719 in the game with Cincinnati and got a couple of 0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:05.440 breaks and won it, And they hung right in the 0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.280 game with Seattle. Are the Jets that good? The Jets 0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.600 got smoked the first week and last week, I mean 0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:14.240 they didn't look that good. They wanted they'd beat Tennessee 0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:16.200 and they had a block pun I mean, give me 0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.120 a break. Why are that we all of a sudden 0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.040 so convinced that the Jets are such a great team 0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.520 they can just win by margin over teams that are 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.760 trying to grind it out. I don't see it. I wouldn't. 0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:26.920 I don't want the Jets. 0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:29.840 It is I mean, it is worth saying that it 0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:33.640 is the ultimate. Perhaps I'm being fooled by recency bias 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:35.760 play too, right, because if we go back two weeks, 0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:38.440 we were all I'll speak for everybody, but I'm sure 0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:40.440 there were exceptions to this. We all thought the Patriots 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:41.920 were going to be by far the worst team in 0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:43.640 the NFL, and we all thought the Jets were going 0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:45.000 to be one of the best and their defense was 0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:48.240 going to be infallible. So two weeks ago this looked 0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:50.200 like a Survivor play for this, By the way, the 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.920 Jets are getting picked in Survivor, and I think it's 0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.520 kind of precarious, Like I don't know, so there is 0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:58.240 that right, Like I'm two is two weeks of football 0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:00.320 enough for me to be convinced of this? And apparently 0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.120 it has been one. 0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:02.640 Last quick thing. 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:04.480 Adam, I'm curious what you think, do you think the 0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:06.759 Reddick deal gets done? Doesn't it seem like Reddick has 0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.279 more leverage now or before he was kind of thought 0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.640 as a luxury and now they kind of need him, 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:13.759 and whatever he wants money wise, maybe you give it 0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:14.160 to him now. 0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.880 I don't know. The way that this has been botched 0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:22.360 from day one is baffling to me. And now it's 0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:25.879 you lose Johnson, who was seven and a half sack 0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.560 guy last year, who was going to be the guy 0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:32.960 that was benefiting from this egos down there's no outside 0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:36.880 pass run. McDonald is coming along, but asking him to 0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:38.760 be the main pass rush guy for the whole season 0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:41.360 is crazy to me. And so the fact they somehow 0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:43.600 didn't find the way to make this work and the 0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.960 fact that both sides seem to have lost from this. 0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:49.040 I mean, ho for Philly against Atlanta was doing nothing. 0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:51.920 I don't know what to make of it at all, 0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.279 but it's I don't know if it's too far gone 0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:56.520 at this point or what to make of it, but 0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:00.239 the outside pass rush is a problem. 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.000 Shall we start with the other best bets? Adam you're 0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:04.279 number one, SA we start with you. 0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:08.759 Well, we just picked on Sean Payton for about half 0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:10.720 an hour, but I'll take the six and a half. 0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:16.080 She'll make for good podcast listing on the road to 0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:20.359 Tampa Bay. I look at who Denver's played the first 0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:24.480 two weeks. It was just no rookie quarterback is going 0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:26.719 into Looman to take on Mike McDonald, one of the 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:30.080 best defensive minds and doing anything, and Bo Nixon and 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.879 the Broncos did not. Week two. Who does he get? 0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:36.120 He gets Pittsburgh Steelers coming in, who just look like 0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:39.440 an absolute top three defense at both levels, and so 0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:44.120 just a hillacious first two weeks for Nix and the Broncos. 0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:48.120 They weirdly kind of moved it decent last week against Pittsburgh. 0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:52.239 Now they go into Tampa Bay. The Buccaneers very likely 0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.920 without Vita b they have Kanci still missing on the 0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:58.319 d line, They're down Winfield Junior, their best safety down 0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:02.120 multiple corners. This to me is is the best spot 0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:04.560 by far that Denver has had to move the football. 0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:07.080 And now Tampa Bay's laying near a touchdown here at 0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:08.799 six and a half. I just think it's too big 0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:12.040 a number. So it's an ugly dog. We just bashed 0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.120 them in for a long time. And I think that's 0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:17.040 part of the sentiment why this number has been adjusted 0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:19.600 out two points. So I'll take six and a half 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:20.360 with Denver. 0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:20.600 On the road. 0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.759 Yeah, I had considered Tampa Bay as a possible survivor pick, 0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:26.880 but I can't play them. The too many injuries, too 0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:32.439 many injuries and there is Yeah, yeah, h Toddy, you're first, sir. 0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.359 Those cards are those cards stuck in the cork? 0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:37.759 Like? 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:39.879 What are those greetings cards? What are those back there? 0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:41.440 Post its notes? 0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:44.799 Yeah? Different, different stuff. My dad used to put up 0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:50.600 there and nobody ever took them down. Anyways. The Jaguars, 0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:55.919 I'm going to take an ugly Jaguars. What do I get? Five? Yeah, 0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:59.319 I know, Stevie. Stevie says, I'm an idiot. Stevie says, 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:03.200 I'm an idiot. I don't care. Jaggs plus five against 0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:07.320 the Bills. Okay, So here's what we saw from the Bills. 0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:11.000 The Bills didn't really wow me on defense against the 0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:14.040 Arizona Cardinals, and they won the game in a high 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.680 scoring ballgame with their offense. Of course, we know what 0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.279 it is, you know, if in doubt, Josh pulls it 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.000 down and gets the first down and then the second 0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:25.280 game is almost like a throwaway game to me because 0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:29.880 Tua gets injured and it just changes the whole complexion 0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.680 of Granted, they played well, but you know, they also 0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:34.720 won the game by a zillion. I love going against 0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:38.120 teams that win by a zillion, and the Jaguars to me, 0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.239 they should have won the first game. At the end 0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:45.320 blew my third quarterback by fooling at the two yard line, 0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:48.720 which was just unheard of, and then of course Tyree 0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:50.440 Kill gets Ady R touchdown. To me, they could have 0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.719 won that game. They should have won that game, And 0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:54.640 then last week they could have won the game. I 0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:56.960 don't think they played better than the Browns, but the 0:44:57.000 --> 0:45:00.360 Browns are a good team. You know, throw out what 0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:02.560 happened to Cowboys Week one, who knows what that was 0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:04.080 all about. I think the Browns are still going to 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:06.680 be good, and I think that the Jaguars are not 0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:09.080 as bad as everyone thinks they are, and the Bills 0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:10.799 are not a team that you can trust to win 0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:13.160 by a huge amount. By the way, didn't these teams 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:15.920 also play in a London game last year if I 0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:20.360 remember correctly, and Jaguars won. Am I right? I believe 0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:22.600 the Jaguars won. There was like crazy touchdowns at the 0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:25.359 end if I remember correctly. But I like the Jags here. 0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:28.480 You know, look if when you're zero and two in 0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:30.520 the NFL, you better get your ducks in a row 0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.120 and you get to go against a team that's two 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.959 and zero, cut fat and happy. After the Miami game, 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:37.440 Stevie will tell me what they got so many days 0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:40.520 to prepare. You're an idiot, Okay, fine, Stevie, I'm an idiot. 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:41.759 I'll take Jags plus five. 0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.239 He's not even here, He's not even saying anything here. 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.800 You are so angry at him, by the way, Jacksonville 0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:51.880 twenty five, Buffalo twenty Last year, it was the result 0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:57.080 was that London? Yeah, I guess it was London, Yes, yeah, 0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:01.400 will Willy, what do you like? U? 0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:03.560 Chargers? Steelers under thirty six? 0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:05.279 I think there's enough thirty six is to give it 0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:06.960 to me, right, I'm kind of split between thirty five 0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:07.919 and a half and thirty six. 0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:10.600 I see enough. What do you guys see. 0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:13.799 Six? 0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:16.200 Uh? 0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:19.160 Yeah, thirty six thirty six sir, yep. 0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:20.000 Yeah. 0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.080 I'm just gonna keep riding these Steelers unders until they 0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.120 buck me. I just think the Steelers are a dead nut. 0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:24.640 Under team. 0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:27.200 It's a little like Iowa football of the past decade, 0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:30.920 where uh, they're just gonna play ball control. They're gonna 0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:33.440 punt fourth and two, fourth and three. They're gonna be 0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.600 very conservative. They're gonna take their field goals, their quarterback runs. 0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:38.560 They like to run Chargers the same sort of thing 0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:41.160 where hardball is an old school coach. I think seventeen 0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:43.600 points probably wins this game. Chargers don't have a lot 0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:47.160 of explosiveness on offense. The uh you know, the Charger 0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:49.360 weapons are certainly not what they used to be. I 0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:51.520 think they've played okay defensively. Now, look they've played the 0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:53.480 Raiders in the Panther, so who knows, But to me, 0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:55.840 I'm just gonna keep playing these Steelers under So Steelers 0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:58.719 Chargers under thirty six, Well. 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:02.919 Yen's I considered the fact that Rivers is charging eighty 0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:05.520 dollars to self park and one hundred dollars for Valet, 0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:08.480 and that now that's a lot to park. And Yen's 0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:10.520 gotta think if people are paying that much to park, 0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:13.600 they're gonna be yelling Ladder and that probably is gonna 0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:16.719 confuse Herbert and then it could be lead to even 0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:19.319 more of an under, maybe you should do an under 0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:22.840 twenty eight and a half in that what is speaking 0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:23.480 of unders? 0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:25.480 I have under eight and a half wins for the Steelers. 0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:27.520 They went too and oh to start two and oh 0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:29.080 on the road and we're still eight and a half, 0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:30.160 which is very strange. 0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:35.000 Hold on what is rivers. 0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:38.799 River's Casino is next door to the Akroscher Stadium for 0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:42.160 the football games, so it goes there's PNCP. 0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:43.840 You have to pay one hundred and twenty dollars to 0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:44.399 park there. 0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:49.160 It's on a Steeler game day, not pirate games, Steeler 0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:52.640 game Day or pitt game day. They're now charging one 0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:55.759 hundred dollars for valet and eighty dollars for self park 0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:58.120 unless you have a card, and they send you these 0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:01.000 emails saying on September twenty first, if you show your card, 0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.279 you could get in for free. So I always do that, 0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:07.919 but it's it's absolutely like unbelievable that people actually pay it. 0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:12.040 They that's why. 0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:19.080 They have the Eli Holstein fever in Pittsburgh. 0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:21.480 Todd Yep, oh my god, you should. I think I 0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:23.400 sent you guys a video of what the book looked 0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:25.960 like when the when pitt got the last touchdown at 0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:30.160 the end. People were going absolutely bonkers, and that was 0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:31.920 my friend went to the game. He said it was 0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.520 It was just an insane scene down there because there 0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:36.920 was Watch Virginia fans, Pitt fans. It was like a 0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:40.040 whole craziness. 0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:41.680 By the way, we're giving a hard time with that 0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:43.640 was a good pick by him. 0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:47.520 Yes, please don't say that. That was a doctor Bob 0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:49.799 pick that Pheesick magically came up with as. 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:52.960 One of his aggregated it. He aggregated it. 0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:55.200 They were both on it, and they were both on it. 0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:59.400 Yeah, so they're both on it. I have hosting at 0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:02.320 a thousand into one to win the Heisman. Let's go baby. 0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:07.800 By the way, he hasn't claimed his judaism yet, so downgrade. Okay, 0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:10.040 I only do one here because I already gave one right. 0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:13.680 Sure, yes, you do you do one here? 0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:14.000 Okay? 0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:14.319 Yeah? 0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:18.279 Can I do? Can? I? I think I can do 0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:20.360 this right because I'm not doing it in a correlated 0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:23.160 parlay or anything. I want the under in tonight's game too. 0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:25.200 Have we ever had that happen before? Two picks on 0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:32.279 the Thursday night that I am going for it under 0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:36.480 thirty same reasoning as before I just think it's a 0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:40.320 run heavy game for the Patriots because that's all they got. 0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:43.600 I do think that the injuries makes it a little 0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:45.960 muddy because I don't exactly know how that plays out 0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:48.960 a little bit on both sides of the ball. But 0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:52.359 I think they'll grind. I think Remandre will do his thing, 0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:55.120 and I think I don't know until I see Aaron 0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:59.840 Rodgers throw the ball downfield, maybe the Jets will grind 0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:02.399 his well, grind meaning you know, just sort of. 0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:04.719 Wait, truly, do you hear that? Really? Can you hear that? 0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:09.640 I hear it. They're thirty seven to three is the 0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:13.160 score of Andre Stevens, and in the backfield twenty two 0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:16.920 seconds to play, were set back the past looking looking 0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:18.120 did he get it? Yes? 0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:18.640 He did? 0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:23.840 Final score thirty seven dead. Oh my god, that's gotta hurt. Gilly. 0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:26.080 You botched it because thirty seven to three I already 0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:26.640 would have lost. 0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:32.120 Oh I messed it up. I'm sorry. Thirty one three. Sorry, 0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:34.440 great happening, like what's the drama? 0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.960 But good effort there on that. So we go back 0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:39.360 to Will with snaked. 0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:43.200 And I am going to go back to the Tennessee 0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:46.480 Titans laying two against the Packers. I don't buy this 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:48.560 idea that Jordan Love is going to start the Vikings 0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:50.919 on deck next week. By the way, our buddy Fez 0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:53.160 gave out in our group chat here, Fez getting a 0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:55.279 lot of airtime here minus two and a half next 0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:57.000 week against the Vikings with the idea that they're going 0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:58.799 to save Love for next week. I buy that you 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:02.200 stole a win with Will. There's no reason to force him. 0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:04.399 I mean, the Tennessee Titans. It's it's not like this 0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:06.960 is a tiebreaker game for the conference or the division. 0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:10.239 And I just don't think you can pull off this 0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:12.880 wing t offense on the road, now that there's film 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:16.120 on it. The Colts were completely unprepared last week. I mean, 0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:17.640 we all knew they were just gonna line up and 0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:19.960 run the ball. I guess we all knew, except the Colts. 0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:22.480 The Titans defense, to me, has been one of the 0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:24.960 more underrated units. I thought, like we were talked about earlier, 0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:26.640 that was a bad beat. 0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:27.120 If you had the. 0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:28.879 Titans plus four last week, it was a bad beat. 0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:29.960 If you have the Titans plus. 0:51:29.800 --> 0:51:32.640 Four the week before, a desperate zero and two team, 0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:34.839 a pretty good defense, a quarterback who I don't think 0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:37.400 is really, you know, on the level of an NFL quarterback. 0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:39.640 I think the Titans find a way to win this game. 0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:40.680 I'm okay laying the two with. 0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:43.880 The Titans is two? What you guys have to. 0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:47.680 Let's see here, will Will's trying to snake a half 0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:49.040 a point? Office? Is that what's happening? 0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:51.439 I see two and a half, but maybe wrong. 0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:54.359 I see a lot of twos. 0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:56.759 I see a lot of two and a half's, but 0:51:56.840 --> 0:51:59.960 I also see pinnacle. Pinnacle just went to a pick them, 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:00.719 is am am? I seeing that? 0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:00.960 Right? 0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:02.640 So I don't know. 0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:04.880 It's too that's fine, I'll take the pick them. That's 0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:05.359 okay too. 0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:09.000 No, I'm just saying I don't know what they're. 0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:10.600 Doing two and a half. 0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:13.719 It is two and a half. May you lose on 0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:15.560 a half point? May you? May you lose on a 0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:16.719 hook like I do every week. 0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:17.760 Oh that's really nice. 0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:23.600 Thanks, You're We're welcome. He's got to try to get 0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:24.120 back in it. 0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:26.400 I gotta get back in Tennessee. 0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:29.640 By the way, Willie, have you taken into effect. Tennessee 0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:31.520 is going to get a punt block for a touchdown 0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:33.439 because that's part of their game plan. 0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:37.000 Have you also taken into account that ill advised Billy 0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:39.160 Levey's will try to flick the ball out of bounds 0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:40.160 and I'll go back for a pick. 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:45.800 Six two weeks by the way, Oh, well. 0:52:45.600 --> 0:52:51.000 He's who is now that will? I don't even know. 0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:57.160 I'm looking mar I think you can keep him. Get 0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:59.120 Duck Hodges. Get Duck Hodges. 0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:03.360 Wasn't bad that the last quarter of the season for 0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:05.040 Pittsburgh wasn't terrible. 0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:07.880 No, he was like, you're right, he's very good. 0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:12.200 No, Billy, Oh. 0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:13.520 Yeah, toddam no expect for me. 0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:21.239 Okay, Uh, for my second pick, I'm going to do 0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:23.560 something a yiinsers not to pace to do, and I'm 0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:25.799 going to go to Cleveland Brownies. I don't know if 0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:29.279 you've ever heard about this club, the mistake by the Rike. 0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:33.319 I'm going to take the Browns minus the six and 0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:36.640 a half. Why am I doing this? You ask, Well, 0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:39.359 first of all, I don't think the Giants can play 0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:42.000 offensive football. Now you're gonna say, but they scored three 0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:45.799 touchdowns to last week against the Redskins. Uh, the Redskins 0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:50.800 are not playing Grade A, B, C, D, E F 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:54.680 G defense. That is not a real defense at the 0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:58.800 NFL level. I'm sorry. You know that is not for real. 0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:02.000 So it just be because the Giants got three touchdowns 0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:06.399 against the Redskins doesn't, in my mind, mean that they 0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:08.719 can score against Cleveland. I think they're going to be 0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:11.680 lucky to get thirteen points here, and if they're only 0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:13.759 going to get thirteen, I need twenty to win. So 0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:18.120 twenty to thirteen Cleveland. I think Cleveland is not as 0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:20.160 bad as they looked against Dallas. I think that was 0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:24.120 just an abnormality, so maybe the offensive line problems. And 0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:26.200 then last week they came back to what they are, 0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:29.160 which is a grinded out football team, win the close 0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:32.160 ones like they did against the Jaguars, and now they're 0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:34.160 playing against a team that doesn't even have an offense. 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:37.200 So let's not be fooled by the Giants playing against 0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:42.000 the substandard Washington football club. I'm going with Cleveland minus 0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:42.840 six and a half. 0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:46.320 To your point, Todd's Skins are giving up six point 0:54:46.440 --> 0:54:49.840 two yards per play on defense. Six points. 0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:50.600 That's good. 0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:52.360 I'm told that's say. 0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:54.400 They played Baker Mayfield and Daniel Jones. 0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:57.160 That's correct now, by the way, or the Giants gonna 0:54:57.160 --> 0:54:57.920 have a ticker. 0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:01.840 Well, one would assume with a week that the Giants 0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:03.960 would have a kicker. Let me not assume, though, Let's 0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:08.560 find out real quick. Graham Gano's a hamstring injury and 0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:12.399 warm ups was the only reason why Washington won that game. 0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:16.359 The Giants did, in fact, sign veteran kicker Greg Joseph 0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:19.280 off the Detroit Lions practice squad and placed Graham Ganot 0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:23.279 on IR two days ago. So there you go. They 0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:26.120 have addressed it with Greg Joseph because that's why. Because 0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:28.640 they tried a extra point their first touchdown. That whole 0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:32.799 game was Skins went up three, Giants would leapfrog them 0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:35.120 with a six. The first time they got the six, 0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:37.759 they tried the punter Jamie Gillen to kick the extra point. 0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:40.359 That didn't work, and then the Skins would get two 0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:42.919 field goals. They'd go back up three. Giants would score 0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:45.160 a touchdown, they'd go for two, they'd fail. Every time 0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:47.279 Skins would go back up three with two field goals 0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:49.400 they got six, they'd fail the two point. That was 0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:52.440 the whole game. And then finally at eighteen eighteen, the 0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:55.560 Giants had fourth and four. If they have Graham know 0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:57.799 they kick a field goal. They went for it, and 0:55:57.960 --> 0:55:59.440 I went off my league neighbor's hands. 0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:01.920 And then, by the way, that's why I played Washington. 0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:06.000 I played Washington at eighteen eighteen. When the Giants had 0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:08.520 the ball. You could have the you could have the 0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:11.520 Redskins plus two and a half minus one oh five, 0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:13.200 And I wanted the two and a half because I 0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:15.320 thought maybe we could have a tie with no field goals. 0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:18.439 I figured, you having a field goal kicker there has 0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:21.680 to be worth a zillion points in that scenario for 0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:23.839 that exact reason, because they haven't, you know what I mean. 0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:25.839 So that's why I took the Redskins there. 0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:28.799 But anyways, a zillion is act a zillion What it 0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:31.480 came out to him, I'm sorry. 0:56:31.719 --> 0:56:34.760 Imagine an offense targeting their best player on a short 0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:37.919 pass on fourth and short. Who can imagine. 0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:43.319 Circling back, ladies and gentlemen circling did that? See what 0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:45.000 he did there? Very clever? All right, Adam? 0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:48.280 You get to thinking, was it Casino or good Fellows? 0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:50.000 When he tells them to shine the shoes out again 0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:52.040 after it dies down, get your shine. 0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:54.120 Box up, all right? 0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:54.640 That's it. 0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:55.480 Flips the table. 0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:02.759 I'm putting the guest seat in really trusted hands here 0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:06.759 After going with bo Nicks in game number one. Let's 0:57:06.800 --> 0:57:09.680 go with Caleb Williams in game number two. I'll take 0:57:09.680 --> 0:57:14.120 the Bears. We'll say plus one and a half on 0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:17.800 the road, maybe even go plus one. I'll leave that 0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:20.160 up to the officials. Stenographer a little. 0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:22.240 To what do you guys see I see it too, 0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:24.560 what do you guys see the two? 0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:27.680 I'd be curious between one and a half or one. 0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:29.520 One. 0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:35.480 I mean he's gonna need everything. Kind of a similar 0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:38.840 scenario like Week one. Tennessee to me is a very 0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:42.280 kind of sneaky underrated defense, very good D line, very 0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:44.160 good group of D tackles, And so that was a 0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:46.760 bit of a tough intro for Williams, not as tough 0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:49.880 as what he faced on Sunday Night Football going into Houston, 0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:51.960 where Qbs are just going to get beat up and 0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:55.040 struggle every single time that they go into Houston to 0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:58.240 play that Texans defense, and so tough. Two games. Now, 0:57:58.280 --> 0:58:01.400 it's a drop off where Eberphilis goes back to Indy 0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:04.680 his old team. It's a defensive scheme and Gus Bradley 0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:07.560 that just lost to Forrest Buckner. You're down, Juju, Brent's 0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:10.760 your best corner other guys are banged up, but Gus 0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:14.680 Bradley's cover three. He never changes, everything's predictable. This just 0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:17.800 feels like an offense where Williams can actually breathe a 0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:20.800 little bit in the pocket and do something offensively. So 0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:23.320 to me, the Bears a little bit underrated because of that. 0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:25.800 Coming in getting one and a half here on the road, 0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:27.720 I will take the points there. 0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:31.440 Two things. One, Gus Bradley really didn't see that Malik 0:58:31.480 --> 0:58:34.320 Willis running game coming did He was like totally caught Aba. 0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:37.400 He never changes. He does the same thing every snap, 0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:39.720 every game and never waivers. It's wild. 0:58:40.760 --> 0:58:43.720 And Todd. I had an audio note from I should 0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:46.480 have told you this before the podcast. It was asked 0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:48.800 that if you feel a sneeze or a cough coming on, 0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:51.240 to try to sneeze away from your microphone. That was 0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:54.840 the note I got from last week. So it just happened. 0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:57.840 So it just reminded me of that. See Todd does 0:58:57.880 --> 0:58:59.680 this thing now when it's against him, then he keeps 0:58:59.680 --> 0:59:02.680 silent and so it acts like I'm thee instead of 0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:04.640 just going with it. I hate when he does that. 0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:10.320 It looks silent treatment not saying ord all right, anyway. Oh, 0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:12.240 by the way, before you get to the other one, Adam, 0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:25.480 and this is moree. 0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:22.720 Th the street crossing the road. 0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:26.520 Did you all see the C. J. Stroud Caleb Williams 0:59:26.600 --> 0:59:27.880 interaction for the game? 0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:30.320 What is that? 0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:33.280 What did we think about that? Adam? What did you say? 0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:35.440 I didn't like it from Caleb Williams. It looked he 0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:37.800 was very dismissive. I thought it was, Uh, it was rude. 0:59:37.840 --> 0:59:39.600 Stroud went out of his way for for people that 0:59:39.640 --> 0:59:41.680 didn't see it. Hey man, you can't take those hits. 0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:43.400 You're gonna be a great player, but just be careful. 0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:45.840 It was very I guess if you're Caleb Williams, you're 0:59:45.840 --> 0:59:48.040 not in the mood after lost to hear some counseling. 0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:50.360 But Stroud his heart was in the right place. He's 0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:52.640 trying to help them, and Caleb Williams was very dismissive. 0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:53.680 I thought that was a bad look. 0:59:54.800 --> 0:59:57.280 Has Stroud done enoughing been in the league long enough 0:59:57.320 --> 0:59:59.600 to be in that position doing that exactly? 0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:02.680 By my question? That's my question. It was one of 1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:06.080 the times, but pretty much people were pretty much split 1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:08.840 down the middle on this, and I think both guys 1:00:08.880 --> 1:00:11.160 were a little off right, Like I think I agree 1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:13.400 with you if you're is that, if that's what you're 1:00:13.400 --> 1:00:16.600 insinuating Adam, which is c J. Stroud as great as 1:00:16.640 --> 1:00:19.080 he is, and he is great, and he's probably top five, 1:00:19.560 --> 1:00:21.000 but you still have only been in the league for 1:00:21.040 --> 1:00:25.200 one year? Do you do you? Is it still your place? 1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:28.720 You're not Tom Brady to go to the guy basically 1:00:28.760 --> 1:00:31.000 your age and say that, but you're right, And then 1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:33.280 Caleb was like, Caleb was not having whatever. 1:00:33.520 --> 1:00:36.280 I totally, but this is not the first time from Caleb. 1:00:36.320 --> 1:00:42.760 We've seen some weird body language antics in similar there's something, Yeah, 1:00:43.680 --> 1:00:46.960 I don't know something. It's just I thought. He was like, 1:00:47.160 --> 1:00:49.800 but I agree with media, I don't know what? 1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:50.080 What? 1:00:50.200 --> 1:00:51.480 What? What do you think it is? 1:00:51.920 --> 1:00:52.120 It? 1:00:52.160 --> 1:00:54.280 Is it? You know? Because some people, a lot of 1:00:54.280 --> 1:00:58.280 people go as far as it's the painted fingernails. Some 1:00:58.320 --> 1:01:01.360 people go to remember that US game where he cried 1:01:01.560 --> 1:01:07.720 on his mom's shoulder that bothers them about him the prepants. 1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:11.320 He has not worn the prepants to our knowledge, he 1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:13.880 has not worth the prepands yet, so it's always game. 1:01:13.920 --> 1:01:17.280 Press are calling those joggers now they thought from what 1:01:17.360 --> 1:01:18.440 I understand. 1:01:19.440 --> 1:01:21.280 Look, you could call it whatever you want. But if 1:01:21.280 --> 1:01:26.720 you're the head coach of the Miami Dolphins, Miami Dolphins 1:01:26.960 --> 1:01:30.080 go to TJ Max and get regular sweatpants. 1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:33.640 He's got his thing going on there. It's not too bad, 1:01:34.480 --> 1:01:35.000 not too bad. 1:01:35.080 --> 1:01:36.640 But do you agree with me that that it's one 1:01:36.640 --> 1:01:39.160 of those things where if they're all of a sudden 1:01:39.440 --> 1:01:42.840 bad let's just say they go one in five, that 1:01:43.040 --> 1:01:46.440 all the NFL neanderthal types are will be quick to 1:01:46.520 --> 1:01:48.280 turn on him because of the nerdiness. 1:01:49.560 --> 1:01:53.120 Why if already could be just in the draft, yeah, 1:01:53.600 --> 1:01:57.200 well and well yeah, go ahead, Well sorry. 1:01:56.920 --> 1:01:58.720 They already have the tweets in the drafts just waiting 1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:00.480 to hit send when they go one and four, one five, 1:02:00.480 --> 1:02:01.880 they've already typed out. 1:02:01.920 --> 1:02:02.640 They just hit this. 1:02:02.880 --> 1:02:05.080 But it's like a bet in the bet slip. They're 1:02:05.120 --> 1:02:06.520 just ready to bunch on it. 1:02:06.880 --> 1:02:10.480 Yeah, And part of this could be that we're all 1:02:10.560 --> 1:02:13.120 just getting a little bit older and we're detached from 1:02:13.800 --> 1:02:16.200 younger guys coming into the league and how things are different. 1:02:16.320 --> 1:02:18.720 I played golf a few weeks ago with a kid 1:02:18.720 --> 1:02:20.840 that was seventeen, and it was like we were from 1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:21.919 different planets. 1:02:22.280 --> 1:02:24.560 And oh, I'm not saying there. And I agree with 1:02:24.560 --> 1:02:26.120 you about that. But I'm not saying I'm bothered, but 1:02:26.240 --> 1:02:29.680 I'm just saying the NFL ultra machismo type. 1:02:29.760 --> 1:02:32.600 Oh yeah, it's got to be the most uncomfortable thing ever. 1:02:33.000 --> 1:02:35.280 Especially I think it could even be worse if he 1:02:35.480 --> 1:02:37.360 turns out to be really, really good and they have 1:02:37.480 --> 1:02:40.120 to go ten twenty years more with that. That but 1:02:40.240 --> 1:02:41.320 that's really going to get. 1:02:42.280 --> 1:02:44.720 I'd love it if paid these nails, though, serious question. 1:02:44.840 --> 1:02:46.760 If he painted his nails and after the game he's 1:02:46.760 --> 1:02:49.600 coughing into the microphone, how would you look at him 1:02:49.640 --> 1:02:52.360 exactly sneezing, coughing anything. 1:02:53.640 --> 1:02:56.000 If he hit the annoying two team parlay on that, 1:02:56.280 --> 1:02:58.720 how would it go? Yeah, all right, Adam, I'm sorry 1:02:58.720 --> 1:03:00.240 your last one. 1:03:02.560 --> 1:03:05.360 I'm I'll go for the I was gonna go with 1:03:05.400 --> 1:03:07.800 a total, but let's keep it consistent with the sides, 1:03:07.800 --> 1:03:08.280 and let's go. 1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:11.400 You you're allowed to go. You're allowed to go with 1:03:11.440 --> 1:03:13.480 the total, Adam, Adam, You're totally allowed. 1:03:13.600 --> 1:03:15.280 No, I know, but I don't want to go. I 1:03:15.280 --> 1:03:16.880 don't want to go same game on that. So I'll 1:03:16.920 --> 1:03:19.320 go Washington plus seven and a half on Monday Night 1:03:19.360 --> 1:03:23.680 football at Cincinnati. I'll take the points there. That is 1:03:24.360 --> 1:03:29.160 another rookie quarterback coming in. But I watched the Bengals 1:03:29.160 --> 1:03:32.440 defense full game Week one, full game Week two. That 1:03:32.600 --> 1:03:35.000 is a serious problem, and I don't know if it's 1:03:35.040 --> 1:03:38.360 being discussed enough or priced in enough. We see the 1:03:38.400 --> 1:03:41.000 total leak a little bit here, but this Bengals team 1:03:41.160 --> 1:03:44.000 laying more than the touchdown with that defense, I don't 1:03:44.000 --> 1:03:46.440 think it's a good situation to be in all season. 1:03:46.520 --> 1:03:48.960 And they have a big issue up front on the 1:03:49.040 --> 1:03:51.320 d line stopping the run, but now it's going to 1:03:51.360 --> 1:03:54.160 be even bigger because Hill and Rankins are both on 1:03:54.200 --> 1:03:56.440 the injury report, have the potential to miss. But the 1:03:56.480 --> 1:04:00.880 safety situations a big mess as well. And so I 1:04:00.960 --> 1:04:04.640 actually I don't hate what I'm seeing from Jayden Daniels. 1:04:04.680 --> 1:04:07.360 I wish there was more of an outside passing game 1:04:07.400 --> 1:04:11.840 to this Washington offense. But in this game, if Washington 1:04:11.840 --> 1:04:13.760 wants to make this a little bit uglier and keep 1:04:13.760 --> 1:04:15.960 it on the ground and focus on the run and 1:04:16.040 --> 1:04:18.040 target those backs and tight ends like they did in 1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:20.959 Week one, I think that's there. And they passed quick 1:04:21.040 --> 1:04:23.560 enough to avoid the pressure from Hendrickson, and what the 1:04:23.600 --> 1:04:26.840 Bengals did against the Chiefs, I just it's a lot 1:04:26.880 --> 1:04:29.200 of points for this Bengals defense. So I'll take Washington 1:04:29.200 --> 1:04:29.880 seven and a half. 1:04:30.600 --> 1:04:32.040 Are you in survivor. 1:04:31.600 --> 1:04:34.680 Adam still alive? 1:04:34.800 --> 1:04:35.080 Yep? 1:04:36.240 --> 1:04:37.840 Who are you taking this week? Well we'll get to 1:04:37.880 --> 1:04:41.680 that because right now you've sent my brain into Fritz 1:04:41.720 --> 1:04:45.600 mode because I was for me it's a choice between 1:04:45.640 --> 1:04:47.960 Cleveland and Cincinnati, and now you got me thinking. 1:04:49.200 --> 1:04:52.320 I'm and again I'm not advocating that this is Washington 1:04:52.360 --> 1:04:54.320 going in and beating him up and winning. This just 1:04:54.360 --> 1:04:58.120 feels like a ten point lead for since he late 1:04:58.200 --> 1:05:00.840 and Washington gets the easy score, it's a three to 1:05:00.880 --> 1:05:02.480 four point win. That never felt that. 1:05:02.440 --> 1:05:05.760 Club, Dottie, your last. 1:05:08.040 --> 1:05:09.840 I'm going to go with a club that we call 1:05:09.960 --> 1:05:13.920 the fourth down Detroit Lions. Is it minus two and 1:05:13.960 --> 1:05:14.360 a half? 1:05:16.000 --> 1:05:21.240 It is minus two and a half? Yes, two and 1:05:21.240 --> 1:05:23.440 a half extra juice, So you're getting a little lucky there. 1:05:24.120 --> 1:05:26.200 I'm going to take the Lions minus to two and 1:05:26.280 --> 1:05:26.760 a half. 1:05:27.320 --> 1:05:31.880 And the reason let's move on, Let's remember this precedent 1:05:31.920 --> 1:05:33.480 that we are giving him a two and a half 1:05:33.560 --> 1:05:35.200 with extra juice that will come up again. 1:05:35.440 --> 1:05:44.440 We've given you, We've given you extra juice as many times. Listen, 1:05:44.760 --> 1:05:48.560 the Detroit Lions. I think, first of all, they moved 1:05:48.560 --> 1:05:52.840 the ball against Tampa all game. They lost the game. 1:05:53.360 --> 1:05:55.560 They moved the ball against the Rams, screwed me on 1:05:55.560 --> 1:05:58.960 my team total in overtime, and especially in that overtime 1:05:59.000 --> 1:06:01.479 where they just said, okay, now with the passing, we're 1:06:01.480 --> 1:06:03.680 just gonna hand the ball off. We're gonna push you around. 1:06:03.960 --> 1:06:07.640 To me, Arizona is a great team to get pushed around, 1:06:08.040 --> 1:06:10.320 if so, And I think the Lions are gonna just 1:06:10.360 --> 1:06:12.760 come out and say, we're gonna push you boys around. 1:06:13.000 --> 1:06:16.840 We're gonna see if you can handle the smash math football, right. 1:06:17.200 --> 1:06:20.640 You have smash mouth ability, right, And I don't think 1:06:20.760 --> 1:06:24.960 that the Arizona team has enough defense to do it. Now. Granted, 1:06:25.000 --> 1:06:27.720 I'm gonna be, you know, peeing in my pants when 1:06:28.120 --> 1:06:30.400 Kyler Murray goes back to pass and he gets away 1:06:30.440 --> 1:06:32.320 from fourteen different guys and he's running and he's still 1:06:32.360 --> 1:06:34.400 running in the play, still going, and he's still running, 1:06:34.400 --> 1:06:37.160 and finally he finds somebody down downfield wide open. That 1:06:37.200 --> 1:06:40.920 guy is just electric and unbelievable to watch. However, I 1:06:41.200 --> 1:06:44.240 just think that the Lions can physically beat them up. 1:06:44.480 --> 1:06:47.960 And after a loss and after Arizona comes off maybe 1:06:47.960 --> 1:06:50.000 one of their best performances in the last you know, 1:06:50.240 --> 1:06:53.440 I don't know, twelve fifteen games. This is the time 1:06:53.560 --> 1:06:56.080 to get the Lions to just smash him in the mouth. 1:06:56.440 --> 1:06:58.160 Minus the two and a half. All I gotta do 1:06:58.240 --> 1:07:00.720 is win by three two and a half. 1:07:01.640 --> 1:07:06.040 Todd, you are I like, I like all of your picks, Todd. 1:07:05.840 --> 1:07:07.640 Todd wishing like, here's better than mine. 1:07:08.520 --> 1:07:11.000 He's not messing around this year, Tod's. 1:07:10.760 --> 1:07:14.120 Going three week Oh here really. 1:07:17.720 --> 1:07:24.480 At the end rolling in wait, this just did the 1:07:24.640 --> 1:07:27.680 hand to at the end. The greatest fumbler inside the 1:07:27.720 --> 1:07:31.080 five yard line this year, and he again another one 1:07:31.160 --> 1:07:31.720 yard line. 1:07:33.800 --> 1:07:37.240 That's why you throw it the running back right, Adam. 1:07:37.720 --> 1:07:44.680 Especially short circling back. All right, Well, I. 1:07:44.680 --> 1:07:46.920 Wasn't going to have a play in rams forty nine ers, 1:07:47.040 --> 1:07:49.640 but I was doing the uh the bare bets pod earlier, 1:07:49.720 --> 1:07:51.760 Jeff Schwartz actually made a pretty good case for the 1:07:52.000 --> 1:07:53.480 for the under, and I'm gonna I'm gonna use that 1:07:53.520 --> 1:07:55.680 as my third one here under are we going forty four? 1:07:55.720 --> 1:07:56.400 Forty four and a half. 1:07:56.400 --> 1:08:06.280 I'm seeing both so many questions forty four forty four Yes, consensus. 1:08:05.760 --> 1:08:09.400 Forty four is no Debo, no McCaffrey, Rams with a 1:08:09.400 --> 1:08:12.640 million offensive line issues, no Cup, no Nikua. I think 1:08:12.680 --> 1:08:15.080 the forty nine ers probably just are happy to run 1:08:15.120 --> 1:08:18.840 the ball. We know all the stats with Debo off 1:08:18.920 --> 1:08:20.400 the field as opposed to on the field. Now, some 1:08:20.439 --> 1:08:23.040 of that coincides with Trent Williams, who's a big factor 1:08:23.080 --> 1:08:25.640 in the production for the forty nine ers offense as well. 1:08:25.640 --> 1:08:27.400 But I just think both teams missing a lot of weapons, 1:08:27.840 --> 1:08:32.160 familiarity Division games tend to trend lower scoring anyway. I 1:08:32.200 --> 1:08:35.680 will go under here Rams and forty nine Ers. 1:08:36.200 --> 1:08:38.479 Todd, I should have piped up when you had the 1:08:38.560 --> 1:08:41.680 Jaguars pick, but we're aligned on that one. A lot 1:08:41.680 --> 1:08:44.639 of this is pre flop conviction for me. I don't 1:08:44.640 --> 1:08:47.639 think the Bills are ultimately that good of a football team. 1:08:48.040 --> 1:08:51.200 As Todd pointed out, should have lost to Arizona. Marvin 1:08:51.240 --> 1:08:55.000 Harrison Junior was wide open, Kyler didn't see him after 1:08:55.080 --> 1:08:57.720 Arizona was up seventeen to three. Buffalo's best player on 1:08:57.760 --> 1:09:00.519 offense is still Josh Allen tucking the ball run under 1:09:01.840 --> 1:09:04.280 and I think Jacksonville is one of these teams where 1:09:04.840 --> 1:09:07.400 you cannot count on them to have things go right 1:09:07.439 --> 1:09:09.040 at the end. But if you're giving me, what is 1:09:09.080 --> 1:09:11.080 it six points? We said, what was it six and 1:09:11.080 --> 1:09:16.240 a half? Five? Okay, I try to do it. What 1:09:16.360 --> 1:09:18.559 is it eight points? What was let's spread on this 1:09:19.200 --> 1:09:22.639 five points? I think Jacksonville again. Give me the points. 1:09:22.680 --> 1:09:25.439 I'm happy with taking all five of those. I'll take 1:09:25.479 --> 1:09:27.720 the Jaguars who have shown themselves to be again you 1:09:28.280 --> 1:09:30.719 said it, they could be two and oh and somehow 1:09:30.720 --> 1:09:33.000 they're not. They're on too. But I'll take the points. 1:09:33.000 --> 1:09:35.639 You can tease them up to eleven. Two. You could 1:09:35.640 --> 1:09:37.479 tease them up to eleven, which is. 1:09:37.439 --> 1:09:42.240 A speaking of speaking of teasers, Adam, your favorite two 1:09:42.320 --> 1:09:44.639 leg six point teaser of the week is. 1:09:48.560 --> 1:09:50.680 This is my least favorite part of the show every 1:09:50.720 --> 1:09:54.280 time I come on. The unfortunate part with all of 1:09:54.320 --> 1:09:56.920 this that I've just made the case for Washington, and 1:09:57.360 --> 1:09:59.720 I mean, I know Cincinnati is going to be very 1:09:59.720 --> 1:10:03.479 pop leg. I don't want to touch Arizona. And a 1:10:03.560 --> 1:10:11.440 teaser with a high total, I will tease up Minnesota, 1:10:11.479 --> 1:10:14.240 which I hate, with Chicago, which I like. 1:10:16.000 --> 1:10:20.080 Okay, so Minnesota plus a great teaser week from me 1:10:20.120 --> 1:10:27.120 here Minnesota plus eight, Minnesota plus eight and Chicago plus 1:10:27.160 --> 1:10:27.920 seven and a half. 1:10:28.920 --> 1:10:30.479 I think there are a lot of good Teazer likes 1:10:30.479 --> 1:10:30.920 this week. 1:10:32.040 --> 1:10:35.040 Is the tie ruling on the show? Based on the 1:10:35.080 --> 1:10:39.000 official stenographer? Is that a tie? The tie ruling on 1:10:39.040 --> 1:10:41.280 teasers here tis. 1:10:41.040 --> 1:10:45.880 Push they ties ties wait ties push here we give them, 1:10:46.040 --> 1:10:47.200 we give them a tie. Yeah. 1:10:47.320 --> 1:10:49.040 Yeah, if you get if you get a tie on 1:10:49.040 --> 1:10:51.200 one of the legs, it's a push teaser. 1:10:51.320 --> 1:10:53.599 Yeah, you throw, You throw it in the dumpster at him, 1:10:53.680 --> 1:10:55.840 and then we dumpster die for the push and we 1:10:55.880 --> 1:11:00.599 get the refund. That's how this works. Okay, yeah, Will 1:11:01.240 --> 1:11:03.639 or Todd, I'm sorry, I forget the order. Todd. 1:11:04.240 --> 1:11:05.400 Well can go next. 1:11:05.400 --> 1:11:08.960 Go ahead, Will, I'll use the Chargers from plus one 1:11:08.960 --> 1:11:10.200 and a half to plus seven and a half in 1:11:10.240 --> 1:11:12.120 a game with a low total VET and the Steelers 1:11:12.240 --> 1:11:13.960 seem to play nothing but one possession games. 1:11:14.000 --> 1:11:15.120 And I'll also use the vikings. 1:11:16.000 --> 1:11:18.400 Uh Party said after the game last week he went 1:11:18.479 --> 1:11:20.320 up to Flores. I'm sure people saw this and said, man, 1:11:20.360 --> 1:11:22.360 you've got a great scheme. It gave me nightmares. Now 1:11:22.360 --> 1:11:25.160 you got a young quarterback in Stroud against Flores, so 1:11:25.360 --> 1:11:27.160 I think Minnesota can keep it close. That's still one 1:11:27.160 --> 1:11:30.080 of the home fields that matters in that dome. So 1:11:30.240 --> 1:11:33.160 vikings plus eight chargers plus seven and a half. 1:11:34.320 --> 1:11:36.400 Are the chargers actually one and a half right now? 1:11:36.720 --> 1:11:38.439 Yep, yep, you can go now they. 1:11:38.360 --> 1:11:45.000 Are you can go there. That's great, you can see. 1:11:45.040 --> 1:11:46.479 One and a half. I gotta get a different we 1:11:46.520 --> 1:11:47.439 gotta I see. 1:11:47.360 --> 1:11:50.080 I see, I see one across the board. 1:11:50.640 --> 1:11:55.040 Seriously, Yeah, bookmaker has one. 1:11:55.880 --> 1:11:56.880 I'll take the seven, you know. 1:11:57.120 --> 1:12:00.839 Makers seven, I'll take the fine. 1:12:01.760 --> 1:12:03.920 I mean, he makes me the bad guy Gilly, but 1:12:03.960 --> 1:12:05.040 you know he's trying to pull fast. 1:12:05.080 --> 1:12:06.360 I mean, we gave you what, we gave you a 1:12:06.400 --> 1:12:08.320 pick him on the lions. It's like minus three, but 1:12:08.400 --> 1:12:09.040 it's fine. 1:12:09.680 --> 1:12:12.840 No, what is the Do we have a weight gain 1:12:12.920 --> 1:12:14.799 update on Will? From the last from the last. 1:12:14.680 --> 1:12:17.240 Update, he's not funny. 1:12:18.880 --> 1:12:22.439 Between minutes forty five and minute one oh three, we 1:12:22.720 --> 1:12:24.240 picked up about point four of a. 1:12:24.160 --> 1:12:27.760 Bound We'll see a look at your arms. We've been 1:12:27.760 --> 1:12:29.479 working out. Look at your lot at Will's arms. Put 1:12:29.479 --> 1:12:30.120 your arms up again. 1:12:30.479 --> 1:12:33.400 Just like todd says, I'm getting puffy. I'm getting puffy, 1:12:33.920 --> 1:12:34.240 all right? 1:12:34.360 --> 1:12:35.160 What is yours? Toime? 1:12:36.360 --> 1:12:37.479 He's a monster, that guy. 1:12:37.960 --> 1:12:38.080 Uh. 1:12:38.560 --> 1:12:42.880 I'm going to take a a f C North uh 1:12:43.040 --> 1:12:47.000 teaser and go with the Cincinnata Bengals minus one and 1:12:47.000 --> 1:12:47.479 a half. 1:12:48.160 --> 1:12:48.639 Uh. 1:12:48.920 --> 1:12:52.800 You know, I take all of Adam's turn Off's opinions seriously, 1:12:52.880 --> 1:12:55.800 and I you know, I agree with him that the 1:12:55.800 --> 1:12:58.759 Bengals defense is bad. I still think at home against 1:12:58.760 --> 1:13:01.559 a team that doesn't even play defense, they should be 1:13:01.600 --> 1:13:03.599 able to pull it out minus one and a half. 1:13:03.960 --> 1:13:06.679 So I'll take Cincinnati there minus one and a half. 1:13:06.960 --> 1:13:08.920 And I believe Cincinnati is zero and two on the year, 1:13:09.000 --> 1:13:10.960 right Cincinnatis. Oh and too, they lost to the Chiefs 1:13:10.960 --> 1:13:14.000 of Austin if they can't lose another game, if another 1:13:14.040 --> 1:13:18.120 game season, So I'm going Cincinnati minus one and a half. 1:13:18.439 --> 1:13:21.439 And then the Cleveland Bronis I love from the other pick, 1:13:21.520 --> 1:13:23.840 so I'm gonna just take them minus a half. So 1:13:23.880 --> 1:13:25.519 they got to just win the game for me, So 1:13:25.560 --> 1:13:28.560 I'll take the Cleveland Brownis. In a little AFC North. 1:13:28.320 --> 1:13:32.800 Action, I went Cnati Bengals money line is almost like 1:13:32.880 --> 1:13:36.320 minus four hundred and so I think when I was saying, 1:13:36.360 --> 1:13:38.080 I think it's going to be a popular teaser like 1:13:38.160 --> 1:13:40.080 that's that's a big part of it because you just 1:13:40.080 --> 1:13:43.200 see that different distribution of spread and money line and 1:13:43.240 --> 1:13:46.759 that's usually pretty good indication that teaser likes in their strength. 1:13:48.120 --> 1:13:49.880 I think everybody will have them. I think you're right, 1:13:49.920 --> 1:13:53.320 I will have them Cincinnati Minnesota for me, he's Minnesota 1:13:53.360 --> 1:13:55.560 up through three and the seven against the tech Sans 1:13:57.160 --> 1:13:59.840 along with the Bengals. Who I Who I getting to? 1:14:01.920 --> 1:14:05.080 I have narrowed my survivor choices to either the Bengals 1:14:05.160 --> 1:14:10.439 or the Browns. The break the most. What's that take? 1:14:10.479 --> 1:14:17.080 The Browns are the most They're the most organic choice. 1:14:17.120 --> 1:14:19.719 In other words, there is no better place the rest 1:14:19.720 --> 1:14:22.120 of the year to play the Browns. If you look 1:14:22.160 --> 1:14:26.000 at their skins. You know the Bengals, though. But if 1:14:26.000 --> 1:14:28.800 you ask me who will I feel more comfortable with 1:14:28.880 --> 1:14:33.080 headed into the weekend, it's actually Cincinnati, because there's no 1:14:33.560 --> 1:14:36.280 Cincinnati is not losing to that outfit. They are not. 1:14:36.439 --> 1:14:39.360 They're not going on three losing to the Skins. I'm 1:14:39.360 --> 1:14:43.360 a Skins fan, by the way, but I can't decide 1:14:43.360 --> 1:14:45.400 between those two. If you're holding me to the fire, now, 1:14:45.680 --> 1:14:48.639 I'd say Cincinnati, but I could be lying. It might 1:14:48.680 --> 1:14:50.559 be Cleveland. But I promise you'll be one of those two. 1:14:51.320 --> 1:14:52.760 I think you should take the Browns. 1:14:53.880 --> 1:14:58.920 Adam Okay, So I am a survivor in contest square. 1:14:59.080 --> 1:15:01.920 I am not good them. I'd never succeed with them, 1:15:01.960 --> 1:15:05.080 and the strategy stuff is over my head. From what 1:15:05.160 --> 1:15:08.439 I understand is I look at the card, the Browns 1:15:08.479 --> 1:15:11.080 are the choice because you're probably not going to use 1:15:11.120 --> 1:15:14.000 them again most likely. Is that a fair statement? 1:15:14.680 --> 1:15:15.519 That is correct? Now? 1:15:15.600 --> 1:15:19.400 Yes, if I was just looking to make a pick 1:15:19.479 --> 1:15:22.240 that would kind of put me away from a possible 1:15:22.960 --> 1:15:26.479 Browns no show at home with Deshaun Watson and that surprise, 1:15:26.560 --> 1:15:30.360 and then liking Washington, perhaps that gets competitive, even though 1:15:30.520 --> 1:15:31.639 I don't think it's in doubt. 1:15:32.040 --> 1:15:32.240 To me. 1:15:32.360 --> 1:15:34.840 When I was looking at the board trying to figure 1:15:34.880 --> 1:15:36.800 out what way you would go, the one that stood 1:15:36.800 --> 1:15:40.200 out to me would be Kansas City. But that's probably 1:15:40.680 --> 1:15:44.120 upsetting for the typical survivor path that you would take. 1:15:44.240 --> 1:15:46.840 But if I was playing it, which for the sake 1:15:46.880 --> 1:15:49.720 of the show, I will from a perspective of like 1:15:49.760 --> 1:15:52.519 how do you dodge a bunch of disasters this week 1:15:52.560 --> 1:15:54.840 that could happen, I would go Kansas City. 1:15:56.320 --> 1:15:58.280 Keep in mind Kansas City with circa Are you in 1:15:58.320 --> 1:15:59.200 circa Survivor? 1:16:01.720 --> 1:16:05.040 We're playing in We're in Circa We're in like a 1:16:05.120 --> 1:16:08.400 bunch of them and play a circuit is not a 1:16:08.479 --> 1:16:10.360 lot of thought behind it, quite frankly. 1:16:10.479 --> 1:16:13.800 Yeah, Kansas City is plays on Thanksgiving and Christmas as well, 1:16:13.880 --> 1:16:15.639 so for non circuitar contestants. 1:16:15.680 --> 1:16:18.120 He was, so, then you're stuck in that way, So 1:16:18.160 --> 1:16:22.240 then you could put me on the spot. Otherwise I 1:16:22.320 --> 1:16:24.719 would have to stick to Cleveland because but there's what's 1:16:24.720 --> 1:16:26.760 the Cleveland percentage in most pool is going to be 1:16:26.960 --> 1:16:30.960 like seventy percent plus or is it divided with no. 1:16:31.040 --> 1:16:32.639 I don't think it'll be nearly that high. I think 1:16:32.640 --> 1:16:35.720 it'll actually be pretty splintered. I think you'll have a 1:16:35.800 --> 1:16:40.840 good splintering of Cincinnati of Cleveland. And believe it or not, 1:16:41.479 --> 1:16:43.880 I think despite the Andy Dalton start, I think a 1:16:43.880 --> 1:16:46.160 lot of people will still take the Raiders, and I 1:16:46.200 --> 1:16:48.160 do think a lot of people will take the Bucks. 1:16:49.800 --> 1:16:51.800 And there's a bunch on the Jets tonight. I bet 1:16:54.040 --> 1:16:55.200 we won't know that. 1:16:55.280 --> 1:16:58.400 Thursday is always the least picked, even when it's pretty popular, 1:16:58.680 --> 1:17:00.120 like relative to Sunday games. 1:17:00.160 --> 1:17:04.240 Just the deadline, Well, someone was sending me the sort 1:17:04.280 --> 1:17:06.920 of percentage of picks that have already been submitted at 1:17:06.960 --> 1:17:10.000 their particular pools and it is a big splintering between 1:17:10.000 --> 1:17:14.080 all those teams. So I don't know if that's represented interesting. Yeah. 1:17:14.160 --> 1:17:16.360 By the way, one pick that I liked that that 1:17:16.439 --> 1:17:20.000 didn't make it onto the top three. How is Skyler 1:17:20.160 --> 1:17:23.439 Thompson going to keep it close in Seattle? I mean, 1:17:23.479 --> 1:17:25.559 I've watched that guy a number of times get on 1:17:25.600 --> 1:17:27.799 the field. I don't think he's very good at quarterback. 1:17:29.080 --> 1:17:31.320 I don't know. I almost do not touch that. I'm 1:17:31.320 --> 1:17:31.880 not touching that. 1:17:31.920 --> 1:17:33.679 He almost won a playoff game in Buffalo. 1:17:33.800 --> 1:17:38.760 No, yeah, years ago, but his numbers were bad. He 1:17:38.800 --> 1:17:40.960 was like eighteen to forty four mebs. It was a 1:17:40.960 --> 1:17:42.599 fluky game. There's some defensive scores. 1:17:42.680 --> 1:17:44.439 I went and look back at that because I almost 1:17:44.680 --> 1:17:46.799 almost took the points, because I'm just of a believer 1:17:46.880 --> 1:17:48.799 that it's more of the system and the players around 1:17:48.800 --> 1:17:51.240 to h but I just couldn't quite get there. 1:17:52.439 --> 1:17:55.479 Dodd, you would take Cleveland? Dodd, you would take Cleveland? 1:17:55.600 --> 1:17:57.520 Survivor said Will. 1:17:57.479 --> 1:17:59.960 Yeah, I would take Cleveland. 1:18:00.120 --> 1:18:05.080 Yes, Okay, Final two questions then, yes. Final two questions 1:18:05.120 --> 1:18:08.160 for each and every megapod since its inception so many 1:18:08.280 --> 1:18:12.360 years ago. The first is which of the big favorites. 1:18:12.400 --> 1:18:14.639 Do you believe is the most likely to lose outright? 1:18:14.680 --> 1:18:18.000 And there's a bunch of choices here. Jets tonight, six 1:18:18.040 --> 1:18:20.680 point favorites at home against the Patriots, that's choice number one. 1:18:20.880 --> 1:18:22.880 Brown six and a half point favorites at home against 1:18:22.880 --> 1:18:25.599 the Giants, Bucks six and a half point favorites at 1:18:25.600 --> 1:18:32.080 home against the Broncos. Do Niners seven point favorites on 1:18:32.120 --> 1:18:34.719 the road against the Rams, Niners banged up, Rams banged 1:18:34.760 --> 1:18:37.400 up even more. And then the Bengals seven and a 1:18:37.439 --> 1:18:40.840 half point favorites at home against the Washington Taco Holders 1:18:41.240 --> 1:18:43.519 on Monday night. By the way, two Monday night games, y'all. 1:18:43.640 --> 1:18:49.880 Jacksonville Buffalo followed, not followed by staggered staggered start to 1:18:49.920 --> 1:18:54.200 the Commodores and the Bengals after that. So the Skins 1:18:54.200 --> 1:18:58.320 game starts forty five minutes after the Jags Bills game starts. 1:18:58.600 --> 1:19:00.000 I forgot about it. 1:18:59.320 --> 1:19:01.000 I wish they spread them out. 1:19:02.040 --> 1:19:02.760 Yeah, me too. 1:19:04.040 --> 1:19:05.759 I remember remember during COVID they would. 1:19:05.560 --> 1:19:07.920 Play like five o'clock in the afternoon Eastern for like 1:19:07.960 --> 1:19:08.920 some of the Monday night games. 1:19:08.960 --> 1:19:09.439 I missed that. 1:19:09.560 --> 1:19:11.040 I wish they would kind of do like one super 1:19:11.040 --> 1:19:13.200 early and won at like seven and that was fun. 1:19:13.240 --> 1:19:16.439 But East West games were great. Yeah. Yeah, remember you 1:19:16.640 --> 1:19:19.320 remember Week one when the Jets played in San Francisco 1:19:19.360 --> 1:19:21.320 and it's like Monday night football and it's still five 1:19:21.360 --> 1:19:24.080 pm and bright and sunny up like this doesn't fit. Yeah, 1:19:24.160 --> 1:19:26.000 you got to move that game back put an earlier 1:19:26.000 --> 1:19:27.479 one on the East coast. I'm with you. 1:19:27.600 --> 1:19:32.479 Didn't we have? Didn't we have like a Steeler's Redskins Thursday. 1:19:31.920 --> 1:19:37.960 After Steelers Ravens, Steelers Ravens Wednesday afternoon Steelers Skins. 1:19:38.240 --> 1:19:40.160 I remember it was a. 1:19:40.600 --> 1:19:42.920 Game and like two pm on a random day as well. 1:19:42.960 --> 1:19:44.320 It was great. 1:19:44.960 --> 1:19:46.839 We had like a Tuesday it was Washington. 1:19:46.880 --> 1:19:49.120 I think Steelers were undefeated and that was their first loss. 1:19:49.160 --> 1:19:51.280 That was a Monday night game, yes, And then there 1:19:51.360 --> 1:19:53.400 was like a Titans Bills on like a Tuesday at 1:19:53.600 --> 1:19:55.880 night makeup game. We basically got all the days cover. 1:19:55.960 --> 1:19:57.960 Then there was a Steelers Ravens Wednesday afternoon. 1:19:58.960 --> 1:20:00.800 I knew there was a s Ravens. 1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:06.200 The Tuesday night wasn't That Tuesday night game was the 1:20:06.240 --> 1:20:09.400 Cross Wins game makeup game the Buffalo. 1:20:09.120 --> 1:20:10.000 I don't think so. 1:20:10.520 --> 1:20:11.439 I think that was the game. 1:20:11.920 --> 1:20:14.040 Every game was st armed as somebody like knocked him out. 1:20:14.560 --> 1:20:17.400 It was Josh, Yeah, that was I missed that. 1:20:18.439 --> 1:20:24.040 Ah Covid like wistfully Covid. 1:20:25.000 --> 1:20:27.439 Patriots go ahead at him? 1:20:28.880 --> 1:20:31.479 Well, I see which way you're going. I'll say the 1:20:31.560 --> 1:20:34.040 team that's a bigger favorite most likely to lose this 1:20:34.080 --> 1:20:35.640 week is San Francisco. 1:20:36.920 --> 1:20:38.439 Yeah. I like that choice. 1:20:38.560 --> 1:20:43.839 Todd the pat Pats to beat the Jets. 1:20:45.360 --> 1:20:46.960 I'm with you. I'm gonna say Jets to lose to 1:20:47.000 --> 1:20:49.639 the Pats. Willy, I don't. 1:20:49.520 --> 1:20:51.440 Trust the Jets either, I'll say Patriots. 1:20:52.680 --> 1:20:58.280 Okay, wow, Wow, that's just direct assault on Adam shirt 1:20:58.280 --> 1:20:58.680 Off is what? 1:20:58.720 --> 1:20:59.120 That was? 1:20:59.280 --> 1:21:02.840 Just a three multi That. 1:21:03.520 --> 1:21:06.040 Isn't it crazy? How the perception that this team has 1:21:06.160 --> 1:21:11.639 changed despite I honestly, if we went back to September first, 1:21:11.800 --> 1:21:14.519 nineteen days ago, and we went around the table and 1:21:14.520 --> 1:21:16.599 we said, what is the biggest concern with the Jets 1:21:17.240 --> 1:21:21.000 Aaron Rodgers and his health, that's like the unanimous, without question, 1:21:21.360 --> 1:21:25.400 everyone on the Jets was, yeah, but Aaron Rodgers forty health, 1:21:25.520 --> 1:21:28.200 coming back whatever. There has been nothing that we have 1:21:28.280 --> 1:21:30.880 seen in weeks one and two that would imply that 1:21:30.920 --> 1:21:33.960 he is still not working with a very very live 1:21:34.080 --> 1:21:37.280 arm and that leg is a hindrance, Like, well, the 1:21:37.280 --> 1:21:40.479 one concern everybody had his answered and what we all 1:21:40.560 --> 1:21:44.360 were certain about has arguably struggled more than we expected. 1:21:44.640 --> 1:21:45.960 So like, where does it level out? 1:21:47.200 --> 1:21:49.040 Do not include me in that because I know people 1:21:49.080 --> 1:21:50.519 on the radio set are sick of me saying this, 1:21:50.600 --> 1:21:53.000 but I have been. I'm sorry. I've been the one 1:21:53.040 --> 1:21:55.560 pushing back on the Achilles thing the whole time. I 1:21:55.920 --> 1:21:58.479 said last year when Aaron Rodgers and all these hack 1:21:58.560 --> 1:22:00.599 doctors on Twitter were saying he could come back, last 1:22:00.680 --> 1:22:02.880 year on saying all these people are full of shit, 1:22:03.000 --> 1:22:05.960 trust me, he can't come back this year. And then 1:22:06.040 --> 1:22:08.360 this year and the off season I was on Willis 1:22:08.360 --> 1:22:10.720 should have been more podcasts, and I said, it will 1:22:10.760 --> 1:22:13.679 not be a problem for any of these guys now 1:22:13.680 --> 1:22:16.680 that they've had an off season to rehab. If the 1:22:16.680 --> 1:22:18.719 teams are going to fail, the Falcons and the Jets 1:22:18.720 --> 1:22:20.920 talking about Cousins and Rogers, it will not be because 1:22:20.960 --> 1:22:23.920 of the Achilles. And by the way, everybody after week one, 1:22:24.200 --> 1:22:26.200 the same people that were like, yeah, Rogers can come 1:22:26.240 --> 1:22:28.120 back last year were the same people after Week one 1:22:28.120 --> 1:22:30.599 who are like, oh, they're really affected by their Achilles well, 1:22:30.640 --> 1:22:33.000 after Cousins the other night, no one is saying that 1:22:33.040 --> 1:22:37.559 about Cousins anymore. And by the way, Rogers five years 1:22:37.600 --> 1:22:41.360 older than Cousins, so maybe, right, maybe you could argue, oh, well, 1:22:41.439 --> 1:22:44.400 take Rogers a little longer because he's older. But they're 1:22:44.439 --> 1:22:47.240 not going to fail because of his achilles his achilles 1:22:47.479 --> 1:22:51.000 asistion it ever was after a surgery. But he does 1:22:51.040 --> 1:22:52.960 have to get over a mental thing. But that's the 1:22:53.000 --> 1:22:56.960 reason the Jets fail. But two years ago, but Gilly 1:22:57.040 --> 1:22:57.800 two years ago? 1:22:58.240 --> 1:23:01.240 Was Aaron Rodgers really Aaron Rodgers two years ago? I 1:23:01.320 --> 1:23:01.800 remember some. 1:23:03.320 --> 1:23:06.240 Had a hand injury every no one remembers that. 1:23:07.120 --> 1:23:09.439 Wow, I remember a lot of games. 1:23:09.600 --> 1:23:11.760 It was an arry or something. At an end of 1:23:11.760 --> 1:23:12.439 the game he hit. 1:23:12.360 --> 1:23:16.120 A helmet that I remember, right, Yeah, I remember some 1:23:16.160 --> 1:23:19.200 stinker use by Aaron Rodgers the year before. But okay, 1:23:20.160 --> 1:23:20.960 stink a rouge. 1:23:22.479 --> 1:23:25.639 Okay, last question, then, if we lived in a Bizarro 1:23:25.800 --> 1:23:28.360 world and we were forced to bet a side in 1:23:28.400 --> 1:23:30.320 each and every one of these games, but you got 1:23:30.320 --> 1:23:33.160 one free pass one game where you're like, I am 1:23:33.200 --> 1:23:36.240 not even betting that with Toddy's money, Adam, what would 1:23:36.280 --> 1:23:36.839 that game. 1:23:36.680 --> 1:23:40.680 Be the easiest answer to the show Ravens Cowboys. 1:23:41.360 --> 1:23:44.919 Ravens Cowboys as dictated as as reflected by the spread itself. 1:23:45.280 --> 1:23:49.479 Willie, Yeah, that's a good one, but I'll go Panthers Raiders. 1:23:49.479 --> 1:23:51.000 I don't know if it was all Bryce Young, or 1:23:51.000 --> 1:23:52.840 if it's the team around him and we'll see this 1:23:52.880 --> 1:23:54.680 bump with Dalton or the team is just that bad. 1:23:54.720 --> 1:23:56.400 I can't get a feeling for that. I'm in no 1:23:56.439 --> 1:23:58.920 hurry to lay five with the Raiders. I'm certainly in 1:23:58.960 --> 1:24:01.760 no hurry to bet the Panthers again. Like ever so, 1:24:01.920 --> 1:24:05.360 Panthers Panthers are Raiders for me, as as someone who 1:24:05.400 --> 1:24:07.960 called as someone who bets CJ. Stroud to go number 1:24:08.000 --> 1:24:10.280 one multiple times at plus money last year, and was 1:24:10.320 --> 1:24:13.360 just an incredulous that the Panthers drafted Bryce Young because 1:24:13.360 --> 1:24:16.040 I thought he's small, he can't succeed. Even I right, 1:24:16.400 --> 1:24:19.200 who thought Young would suck and he kind of did historically. 1:24:19.960 --> 1:24:22.800 Even I say about this year's Bryce Young, who looked 1:24:22.840 --> 1:24:26.120 like his confidence was entirely shot. It's not all his fault. 1:24:26.439 --> 1:24:29.040 How did canalis we said this during the preseason? How 1:24:29.080 --> 1:24:32.320 did they only play him a drive in the preseason? 1:24:32.640 --> 1:24:33.840 How were they okay with him? 1:24:33.840 --> 1:24:33.880 Like? 1:24:33.960 --> 1:24:34.160 Yep? 1:24:34.200 --> 1:24:37.880 He's great. We don't need to see any more from him, 1:24:38.120 --> 1:24:40.080 Like Canalos has something to do with that, I think 1:24:40.240 --> 1:24:43.160 right brace Young didn't get forty seven points of the Saints. 1:24:43.560 --> 1:24:44.680 So anyway, you see that. 1:24:44.760 --> 1:24:46.960 On Twitter they had a Chase Daniel. I think it 1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:49.920 was Chase Daniel on Twitter. I'm not positive, but it 1:24:49.960 --> 1:24:51.640 was some I think it was Chase Daniel has a 1:24:51.680 --> 1:24:55.240 Twitter feed where he went through about fifteen reads by 1:24:55.240 --> 1:24:58.559 Bryce Young and he shows you, like what the routes are, 1:24:58.600 --> 1:25:00.320 he shows you what the zone is. He goes back 1:25:00.360 --> 1:25:02.599 and forth and shows you, Okay, here's where he should 1:25:02.600 --> 1:25:04.559 have thrown it, here's what he did wrong and everything, 1:25:04.840 --> 1:25:07.200 and he's like butchering him death. He goes, I don't 1:25:07.560 --> 1:25:09.120 want to do this to the guy. You know, he's 1:25:09.160 --> 1:25:11.760 not you know, he's like apologizing the whole time, and 1:25:11.880 --> 1:25:12.519 he's saying, but. 1:25:13.479 --> 1:25:15.200 It's gonna get me a lot of you, so I'm 1:25:15.200 --> 1:25:15.760 gonna do it. 1:25:17.960 --> 1:25:20.160 I'm with you, Adam, Adam, I'm with you. I'm just 1:25:20.240 --> 1:25:23.000 saying the point is, you watch that thing and you're 1:25:23.040 --> 1:25:26.120 just like, you feel like you're in the quarterback room. 1:25:26.479 --> 1:25:29.559 I like saying, the quarterback room. You know, actually the 1:25:29.640 --> 1:25:32.760 dumbest I've ever heard of the quarterback room. And you're 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:35.479 watching and you're saying, okay, well, here's where he's supposed 1:25:35.520 --> 1:25:38.280 to go against the two high safeties, and he threw 1:25:38.320 --> 1:25:40.439 it to the wrong guy here, and here's what he's 1:25:40.439 --> 1:25:42.800 supposed to do. Because it's this is the play, and 1:25:42.840 --> 1:25:45.080 these guys are watching his and he's showing you all 1:25:45.120 --> 1:25:47.839 the things, and it seems like Bryce. And now, granted, 1:25:47.960 --> 1:25:49.840 we could probably look at a whole bunch of quarterbacks 1:25:49.840 --> 1:25:51.920 and maybe Chase Daniel could pick it apart, but it 1:25:52.040 --> 1:25:54.960 sure looked like, you know, there was like some real 1:25:55.080 --> 1:25:57.080 elementary shit that he wasn't doing. 1:25:58.240 --> 1:25:59.200 What's the rest of his career? 1:25:59.200 --> 1:26:01.280 Look like somebody tray a fourth round re form at 1:26:01.280 --> 1:26:03.800 some point this year offseason and he gets another chance 1:26:03.800 --> 1:26:06.320 to start, or he just fades into oblivion, because my 1:26:06.320 --> 1:26:09.160 guess is the former. Just because these coaches have egos, 1:26:09.240 --> 1:26:11.160 they say he was the first pick. I can fix him, 1:26:11.360 --> 1:26:13.960 put him in my city. I don't know, he'll get 1:26:13.960 --> 1:26:16.519 a chance. Yeah, yeah, he'll get a chance. I don't 1:26:16.520 --> 1:26:17.639 know if it leads to anything. 1:26:17.760 --> 1:26:20.160 That by the way, that we don't say this enough 1:26:20.160 --> 1:26:24.440 about football, right, you know, Baseball seaball, hit ball basketball, 1:26:24.479 --> 1:26:27.200 put this, you know, orange sphere into this orange cylinder. 1:26:27.479 --> 1:26:30.160 But that's the beauty of football, right, the fact that 1:26:30.400 --> 1:26:34.439 quarterbacks have to have that moment, whether it's holding a 1:26:34.439 --> 1:26:37.320 clipboard for years, whatever it takes. Some people will get 1:26:37.320 --> 1:26:39.920 it way quicker than others, the moment where it just 1:26:40.080 --> 1:26:43.320 clicks for them right where they see the field and 1:26:43.439 --> 1:26:46.920 they know exactly what's happening. Tom Brady does a great 1:26:47.000 --> 1:26:50.320 job of this, like pre snap, you should know what's 1:26:50.400 --> 1:26:53.760 going to happen, and some quarterbacks never get that. And 1:26:53.840 --> 1:26:57.639 I think that's that's fascinating. My ex father in law 1:26:57.720 --> 1:26:59.120 used to play in the NFL, and he used to 1:26:59.160 --> 1:27:02.439 say about returns, right, he used to be like, it's 1:27:02.680 --> 1:27:06.200 just a knack, Like you can't explain it. It's just 1:27:06.320 --> 1:27:09.479 a knack for being able to have your brain, the 1:27:09.520 --> 1:27:14.559 computer in your brain recognize velocity coming at you and 1:27:14.640 --> 1:27:17.160 angles coming at you and knowing how to counter that. 1:27:17.600 --> 1:27:20.559 He's like, you can't teach that. I just find that 1:27:20.640 --> 1:27:24.719 about football to be anything because it's something. 1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:27.880 But the coaches and the quarterbacks earlier and how they're 1:27:27.880 --> 1:27:31.120 attaching themselves to success in the job. I've seen other 1:27:31.160 --> 1:27:35.839 opinions on where the nil deals in college are forcing 1:27:36.040 --> 1:27:40.000 teams to become more player dependent than system dependent. And 1:27:40.040 --> 1:27:43.719 so you have these these quarterbacks that go to college, 1:27:44.320 --> 1:27:47.400 get paid a bunch, and the plays are made for 1:27:47.439 --> 1:27:52.920 them to generate whatever notoriety for the college rather than 1:27:53.040 --> 1:27:55.599 them going into a college program. And then they make 1:27:55.640 --> 1:27:57.439 the leap to the NFL and they're forced to play 1:27:57.520 --> 1:28:01.840 quicker that it's now like NFL teams are rather than 1:28:01.880 --> 1:28:05.320 trying to get the quarterback into their offensive system, it's 1:28:05.320 --> 1:28:07.360 like these coaches are trying to figure out how to 1:28:07.400 --> 1:28:10.680 get the system built around the quarterback they're now married to. 1:28:11.000 --> 1:28:15.040 And it's seems like that's causing a lot of like 1:28:15.360 --> 1:28:17.280 variance in this early career play. 1:28:18.360 --> 1:28:20.680 Though, I would argue because if that's true, Adam, and 1:28:20.720 --> 1:28:22.160 I think that is true, right, I think that's an 1:28:22.200 --> 1:28:26.200 interesting point. I would argue, then that shows more of 1:28:26.240 --> 1:28:30.639 a coaching fit than it does a quarterbackacking deficiency, because 1:28:30.840 --> 1:28:33.240 I believe and again let me reference the great Joe 1:28:33.280 --> 1:28:37.840 Gibbs again, his ability to tailor x's and o's around personnel, 1:28:38.200 --> 1:28:41.120 no matter of the personnel. Right, Oh, we have John Riggins, 1:28:41.160 --> 1:28:43.000 We're now going to be run heavy run a jumbo 1:28:43.640 --> 1:28:47.080 with two tight ends. I'm going to design everything around 1:28:47.120 --> 1:28:50.280 this amazing package. And Taylor, oh, now we have Monk 1:28:50.320 --> 1:28:53.040 Clark and Sanders, let me play an entirely different kind 1:28:53.040 --> 1:28:55.439 of offense. Right, Whereas you had these guys like the 1:28:55.479 --> 1:28:58.920 Marty Schottenheimer's of the world who believed my way is 1:28:58.960 --> 1:29:01.920 the only way, right, Steve's my way is the only way. 1:29:02.120 --> 1:29:05.080 You have to conform to my systems, Like that's the arrogance. 1:29:05.120 --> 1:29:10.120 I think, yeah, it's It's an interesting point too, and 1:29:10.160 --> 1:29:13.400 that's you get guys like Andy Reid who typically young 1:29:13.439 --> 1:29:16.160 guys outside of quarterback and homes have always taken the 1:29:16.240 --> 1:29:19.400 year or two to click in that offense, and now 1:29:19.760 --> 1:29:22.000 we're seeing things change a little bit there. So it's 1:29:22.040 --> 1:29:25.040 like an interesting like with Worthy breaking through week one, 1:29:25.600 --> 1:29:28.280 that that's never really happened in that offense, but they're 1:29:28.360 --> 1:29:31.400 kind of now forced to do it just personnel wise, 1:29:31.560 --> 1:29:33.640 even I perhaps the cap has something to do with 1:29:33.680 --> 1:29:35.320 it where you don't have that depth like you used 1:29:35.360 --> 1:29:35.920 to as well. 1:29:35.960 --> 1:29:39.400 It's right, lots changed, right, And to your point, that's 1:29:39.400 --> 1:29:42.479 why I believe that Jordan Love was actually going to 1:29:42.520 --> 1:29:46.040 be good when most didn't because he got to youse, 1:29:46.080 --> 1:29:49.040 got to be in the same system for multiple years 1:29:49.320 --> 1:29:51.600 holding a clipboard with a Hall of Fame quarterback in 1:29:51.640 --> 1:29:54.240 the same system, And I related it back to just 1:29:54.320 --> 1:29:56.840 my purview from the Skins point of view, the reason 1:29:57.000 --> 1:30:00.320 Stan Humphries and Mark Rippin and Trent Green be came 1:30:00.439 --> 1:30:06.960 great or not greatly very good quarter and Barry Lamar 1:30:07.120 --> 1:30:10.040 Bonds also is because they got to do that. They 1:30:10.120 --> 1:30:12.759 got to just chill in the same system for years 1:30:13.240 --> 1:30:15.200 and that's how they became. You know, Stan Humphreys went 1:30:15.200 --> 1:30:17.080 to a Super Bowl with the Chargers, for God's sakes. 1:30:17.439 --> 1:30:20.360 Trent Green might have, but then then ther. 1:30:20.360 --> 1:30:22.640 Yeah, Barry Bonds had Andy Vance liked to take him 1:30:22.720 --> 1:30:25.120 under his wing. I actually I disagree a little bit 1:30:25.160 --> 1:30:25.360 with this. 1:30:25.439 --> 1:30:26.920 I think Aaron Shots, I don't know if we're going 1:30:26.960 --> 1:30:28.160 to have him on on this podcast. 1:30:28.200 --> 1:30:29.840 He's done some pretty detailed. 1:30:29.479 --> 1:30:33.160 Research on sitting versus not sitting, and he's his conclusions 1:30:33.200 --> 1:30:35.960 have been very much that it's anybody's guest. 1:30:36.040 --> 1:30:38.240 There's no one way to do it. First, you know, 1:30:38.240 --> 1:30:39.920 a right way versus a wrong way to do it. 1:30:40.880 --> 1:30:42.920 Speaking of film study, I don't know if you guys 1:30:42.960 --> 1:30:45.080 have seen these grooding clips where he's breaking down film. 1:30:45.160 --> 1:30:48.960 They are equal parts entertaining and disturbing. I don't know 1:30:49.000 --> 1:30:51.080 where I fall between them, but they are very bizarre. 1:30:51.720 --> 1:30:53.599 I sent you some of them last night. They are odd, 1:30:53.640 --> 1:31:00.479 aren't grooding? Yeah? That, yeah, I'll send. He's like rapping 1:31:00.520 --> 1:31:03.160 and he's dancing to these rap songs. It's very strange. 1:31:03.880 --> 1:31:06.840 He's breaking down football film and then he'll randomly like 1:31:06.880 --> 1:31:09.240 the one that will send. He's talking about Joe Mason. 1:31:09.600 --> 1:31:13.200 I don't like what Joe mix and Joe mixing, just 1:31:13.240 --> 1:31:16.720 like I don't like cheeseburgers. I love cheese, and like 1:31:16.760 --> 1:31:19.080 he'll throw in a rap song. It's not it's nicely. 1:31:19.120 --> 1:31:21.160 I know they like he'll play it like a hip 1:31:21.160 --> 1:31:22.120 hop song or something. 1:31:22.320 --> 1:31:26.840 So my immediate presentation work to beep up and reach 1:31:26.840 --> 1:31:27.960 your broader audience. 1:31:28.280 --> 1:31:31.040 Let's be a lesson to us all, Adam that we 1:31:31.120 --> 1:31:31.320 need to. 1:31:32.360 --> 1:31:34.680 I have one last QB point to wrap up to 1:31:34.840 --> 1:31:36.960 your point of Aaron Schott saying like the start or 1:31:37.000 --> 1:31:39.479 sit hard not to look back at one of the 1:31:39.479 --> 1:31:42.599 best AFC quarterbacks of all time, and Mark Sanchez gets 1:31:42.600 --> 1:31:46.599 to the Jets playoffs playoffs nothing since and we've gone 1:31:46.640 --> 1:31:50.879 through a few quarterbacks there, so yeah, just saying legendary 1:31:51.120 --> 1:31:52.040 AFC quarterback. 1:31:52.880 --> 1:31:54.920 Not that anyone cares, but two of us haven't given 1:31:54.920 --> 1:31:57.400 our game that we want no part of. And the 1:31:57.439 --> 1:32:00.320 game that I want no part of would be if 1:32:00.360 --> 1:32:02.800 I could just call it the games I want absolutely 1:32:02.880 --> 1:32:06.200 no part of that Detroit Arizona game. Actually, you know what, 1:32:06.320 --> 1:32:10.840 Miami Seattle, Miami Seattle. I would say, there's a few 1:32:10.880 --> 1:32:12.679 of those this week where I'm like, yeah, I don't 1:32:12.680 --> 1:32:13.320 know what I'm seeing. 1:32:13.560 --> 1:32:17.320 I'm gonna go because you're right, I think the Ravens 1:32:17.360 --> 1:32:21.120 game against the Cowboys. Who are these teams? What is 1:32:21.200 --> 1:32:24.200 really going on with these teams and the Cowboys? By 1:32:24.200 --> 1:32:27.040 the way, the should we just auto bet after the 1:32:27.040 --> 1:32:29.559 Cowboys look great for like three, four, five, six weeks 1:32:29.560 --> 1:32:31.320 in a row, or they just have a huge game, 1:32:31.479 --> 1:32:34.200 just auto bet them at home against somebody to like 1:32:34.360 --> 1:32:36.640 lay a giant deuce in their pants, because they just 1:32:36.880 --> 1:32:39.760 it seems like they do it all the time, you know, 1:32:39.840 --> 1:32:42.320 And that was like a perfect spot for that. 1:32:42.439 --> 1:32:44.960 They're a bully. They're a bully, right, They beat all 1:32:44.960 --> 1:32:47.120 the teams that are clearly less talented them and then 1:32:47.240 --> 1:32:50.640 someone there picks on them. That's their own size. They 1:32:50.640 --> 1:32:52.880 were bully last year too. The Dolphins were bully last year, 1:32:52.880 --> 1:32:54.080 but now it too is out. So you can't even 1:32:54.080 --> 1:32:58.160 say that about that. What was your lying about them, Todd? 1:32:58.160 --> 1:33:00.600 They can't stand prosperity cowboys? 1:33:00.600 --> 1:33:02.680 You can't. Yeah, as soon as by the way, as 1:33:02.680 --> 1:33:05.240 soon as that game started, I said to myself, oh 1:33:05.320 --> 1:33:08.400 my gosh, here we go. Typical cowboys are the killers 1:33:08.680 --> 1:33:10.439 and now it's going to be like eight million to 1:33:10.560 --> 1:33:11.880 nothing against the coup. 1:33:13.400 --> 1:33:15.040 Let me let me just end with this, Adam, what 1:33:15.160 --> 1:33:20.600 is your what is your most off general market consensus 1:33:20.680 --> 1:33:22.960 viewpoint at this point, either to the good or the bad, 1:33:23.040 --> 1:33:25.600 Like you don't think the Saints are for real? I 1:33:25.640 --> 1:33:28.400 don't know what. I just leave it open open ended 1:33:28.439 --> 1:33:28.640 for you. 1:33:29.880 --> 1:33:33.000 Well, I did Cowherd this summer, and my face is 1:33:33.040 --> 1:33:36.120 attached to the Carolina Panthers success and so it's been 1:33:36.160 --> 1:33:41.439 a My DF has been ugly for the last weeks. Yeah, 1:33:41.479 --> 1:33:44.120 so I'm certainly tied to Andy Dalton turning things around 1:33:44.120 --> 1:33:48.080 there in Carolina. So that would be one that's to 1:33:48.240 --> 1:33:51.880 the bad but hopefully turns out good. If I'm going 1:33:51.920 --> 1:33:56.439 the other way, I would say so far being very 1:33:56.560 --> 1:33:59.840 high on Seattle preseason, which nobody really wants to bring 1:33:59.920 --> 1:34:03.400 up again, unfortunately, would be the one that's been so 1:34:03.520 --> 1:34:06.920 far to the good. I really am a big fan 1:34:06.960 --> 1:34:09.320 of Mike McDonald and so what he's done so far 1:34:09.320 --> 1:34:10.519 I thought has been really telling. 1:34:11.200 --> 1:34:13.040 Our coach of the year. Bets looked pretty good after 1:34:13.040 --> 1:34:15.560 two weeks. Anyway, with Mike McDonald, what number did you 1:34:15.600 --> 1:34:16.120 get him on this? 1:34:21.360 --> 1:34:24.519 He runs a Burger franchise and plays great defense. That's 1:34:24.560 --> 1:34:25.240 that's impressive. 1:34:26.320 --> 1:34:28.439 It's it's always a pregnant pause when you have to 1:34:28.439 --> 1:34:32.800 distinguish on air between Mike McDaniel, Mike McDonald, Michael McDonald, 1:34:33.120 --> 1:34:35.960 the artist. And there was one more I can't remember. 1:34:36.520 --> 1:34:37.840 There's like four of them, the. 1:34:38.560 --> 1:34:41.520 Worst yet last week when I was doing the previews, 1:34:41.640 --> 1:34:48.400 it was Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Raiders, Ravens, McDaniel McDonald in three 1:34:48.479 --> 1:34:52.360 consecutive games in rotation, and I just butchering all of them. 1:34:52.600 --> 1:34:56.080 Oh yeah, it's Mike McDaniel, Mike McDonald, Michael McDonald. I 1:34:56.080 --> 1:35:00.320 think the other one was Josh McDaniels. Right, was another one? 1:35:00.240 --> 1:35:00.400 Yes? 1:35:01.560 --> 1:35:03.320 With brutal all. 1:35:03.280 --> 1:35:08.320 Right, gentlemen, Adam the simple, the simple handicap The Simple 1:35:08.400 --> 1:35:12.479 Handicap is that the name you a simple Handicap Monday 1:35:12.479 --> 1:35:14.960 through Friday, and it's about what ten to fifteen minutes 1:35:14.960 --> 1:35:16.879 each you do them real quick, right. 1:35:17.720 --> 1:35:21.920 Yeah, it's it's trending fifteen to twenty Apple Spotify YouTube 1:35:22.080 --> 1:35:24.479 every morning gets you ready on what you need to 1:35:24.520 --> 1:35:26.400 know for the day for NFL betting, and so that's 1:35:27.080 --> 1:35:29.719 airing every morning five am Eastern, two am Pacific. 1:35:30.320 --> 1:35:32.880 And what is your jurisdiction at Right Angle Sports? What 1:35:32.920 --> 1:35:33.840 do you handle there? 1:35:35.680 --> 1:35:41.240 All things NFL, mostly service facing and media, but we 1:35:41.360 --> 1:35:43.799 do a lot of betting and handicapping behind the scenes 1:35:43.800 --> 1:35:47.240 that doesn't get shown up. So everything relating to the 1:35:47.360 --> 1:35:49.519 NFL is is what I'm involved with. 1:35:50.040 --> 1:35:52.280 Beautiful And how did Coward? I didn't know that you 1:35:52.280 --> 1:35:55.160 were on Collin Coward? How did how did you? How 1:35:55.200 --> 1:35:57.599 did he find out about you? How did he get 1:35:57.760 --> 1:36:00.000 your his attention? How did you get his attention? 1:36:01.080 --> 1:36:04.559 I've known Jason McIntyre for a while, but there was 1:36:05.280 --> 1:36:07.640 Colin has the volume and it was a couple of 1:36:07.760 --> 1:36:10.000 years ago while I was still at Covers. There was 1:36:11.560 --> 1:36:14.200 very close to doing something with them and getting involved 1:36:14.200 --> 1:36:19.120 with that network. They elected to go with Shannon Sharp 1:36:19.200 --> 1:36:21.960 instead of me, I was told, which makes a lot 1:36:22.040 --> 1:36:25.040 of sense and certainly is probably paying off for them 1:36:25.040 --> 1:36:27.439 in a much better way. So I was. I became 1:36:27.880 --> 1:36:29.840 pretty close and friendly with them at that time, and 1:36:29.880 --> 1:36:32.960 then there was a very slow news day that nobody 1:36:33.000 --> 1:36:35.719 had anything to talk about, and so then I got 1:36:35.800 --> 1:36:38.639 I got bumped up for that back and right around June. 1:36:38.479 --> 1:36:40.600 Or so good for you. I would have liked to 1:36:40.600 --> 1:36:42.840 have seen you done interviews with Kat Williams, though, if 1:36:42.840 --> 1:36:45.960 I'm being honest, I would have liked to ar multi 1:36:46.040 --> 1:36:47.880 media thing. Is that true? 1:36:47.880 --> 1:36:49.439 There are some jokes you could have made there, and 1:36:49.600 --> 1:36:51.599 I was, yeah, there was there were some Shannon Sharp 1:36:51.680 --> 1:36:52.160 jokes to be. 1:36:52.120 --> 1:36:55.519 Made, but yes there were others to be made. Adam 1:36:55.600 --> 1:36:58.240 chirt off everybody and on Twitter you are at Adam 1:36:58.360 --> 1:37:02.519 chirtoff c h E r f F. Check it out 1:37:02.560 --> 1:37:06.400 there for Adam, for Toddy, thank you, Toddy, thank you. 1:37:06.439 --> 1:37:08.840 Will will Hills should have been more podcasts as well, 1:37:09.320 --> 1:37:12.439 and Todd and I we're not doing our halftimes at Tish. 1:37:12.600 --> 1:37:14.240 But we're not going to do halftimes, right, is that 1:37:14.280 --> 1:37:15.040 what we've determined. 1:37:15.680 --> 1:37:18.080 I mean, it's just we have we have issues that's 1:37:18.120 --> 1:37:20.080 the only problem. I don't mind doing them. It's just 1:37:20.120 --> 1:37:23.439 the problems that we talked about. But maybe we the 1:37:23.439 --> 1:37:28.360 way Wills Wills Will's new podcast. Will's new podcast, put 1:37:28.400 --> 1:37:33.559 Down the Burger. That's his new podcast. 1:37:36.080 --> 1:37:38.720 Well, I guess We'll deserves it after the couple the 1:37:38.760 --> 1:37:39.280 double funk. 1:37:40.080 --> 1:37:43.599 He didn't go after me very hard last last podcast. 1:37:43.680 --> 1:37:45.920 Let's be honest, Okay, he was the guy was on 1:37:46.040 --> 1:37:49.160 site kicking without even declaring. He wasn't even declaring on 1:37:49.240 --> 1:37:49.800 side kicking. 1:37:50.200 --> 1:37:51.920 You gotta say for Will to. 1:37:51.880 --> 1:37:54.200 Win more than I am the guest chair here this week, 1:37:54.360 --> 1:37:55.960 just to get some revenge on that. 1:37:59.240 --> 1:38:02.880 It really is, uh you all with all your Week 1:38:02.960 --> 1:38:04.920 three bets in the National Football League. 1:38:04.920 --> 1:38:07.000 Thanks for I was kidding, It's it's real. His real 1:38:07.040 --> 1:38:09.000 podcast should have ate more. My fault.