Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by my colleague
Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. Were coming to here from our studios at
Speaker 1: lambeau Field and West final show of the week leading
Speaker 1: into Packers Lions, the season finale for both teams Sunday
Speaker 1: noon Central kickoff at Ford Field in Detroit. It's Keys
Speaker 1: to Victory Day and we always start on the offensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball for the Packers. So what do
Speaker 1: you got, I mean, Alex Van Pelt, in a joking manner,
Speaker 1: said during his Thursday news conference when the assistant coaches
Speaker 1: were available, I mean, Bred Hunley's back on the road.
Speaker 1: He's been hot on the road, so you hope that
Speaker 1: that continues. Certainly, He did reiterate that you think that's
Speaker 1: that's kind of a fluke, the that the stats have
Speaker 1: turned out this year. Hunley's road passerating though you can't
Speaker 1: argue with it. It's like and he has had a
Speaker 1: lot of fair share of success, particularly late in ball
Speaker 1: games when he's away from lambeau Field. So um, while
Speaker 1: the Packers believe that he can win games at home
Speaker 1: and believe he can throw touchdowns, at home. Um, they
Speaker 1: they're fine with riding the hot hand at Ford Field.
Speaker 1: And this is an interesting ball game, Mike, because after
Speaker 1: last week I was kind of you know, I said
Speaker 1: one of the keys of victories, I didn't anticipate they
Speaker 1: throw more than thirty five times. They end up throwing
Speaker 1: for forty times in that weather not exactly ideal. Well,
Speaker 1: now you're in the temperate, you know, dome. So I'm
Speaker 1: really interested to see how this plays out. Its back
Speaker 1: to back years, the Packers finishing the season in Detroit,
Speaker 1: much different scenario than a year ago, where there's a
Speaker 1: lot of different while they both were in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different things on the line in
Speaker 1: terms of seating. So it'll be interesting to watch. But Hunley,
Speaker 1: definitely it starts with him and protecting the football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't know how to explain his home versus
Speaker 1: road statistics. It's it to me. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: It doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's
Speaker 1: not as though the games in Pittsburgh and Cleveland, those
Speaker 1: road games where these pristine conditions. I mean, they were
Speaker 1: very similar, not like Minnesota last Saturday night, where it
Speaker 1: was very very cold, but he's played road games in
Speaker 1: the Chili conditions and a little bit of wind and
Speaker 1: things like that. So the difference between the home and
Speaker 1: the road statistics, to me, I'm not going to try
Speaker 1: to try to provide an explanation, but what I will
Speaker 1: say about what the Packers need to do to win
Speaker 1: this game. For me, it just comes down to making
Speaker 1: the plays that are there. Because there were plays to
Speaker 1: be made against the Minnesota Vikings that could have put
Speaker 1: pressure on Minnesota that would have kept the Packers in
Speaker 1: the game. It was about a half a dozen drop passes,
Speaker 1: all of them would have been for first downs, would
Speaker 1: have kept drives going, would have developed some rhythm and
Speaker 1: momentum for your young quarterback, and the Packers just dropped
Speaker 1: the ball too many times. And I know there's some
Speaker 1: accuracy issues with Brett Hunley. There were some deep balls
Speaker 1: late in the game that weren't on target, other things
Speaker 1: like that that happened. But when he does make the throw,
Speaker 1: the Packers have got to catch the ball and they've
Speaker 1: got to help out their young or back to to
Speaker 1: develop some of that rhythm and momentum. That's what they
Speaker 1: need to do. Indoors on Sunday afternoon. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting matchup for the Packers here because
Speaker 1: they already know they're not gonna have Davante Adams, they
Speaker 1: won't have Jordy Nelson, Jarry Evans has been rolled out
Speaker 1: of this one. They're starting right guard for four teen
Speaker 1: games this season. So it's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: young guys playing in this ball game. And obviously Gerano
Speaker 1: Allison is another guy to keep an eye on two
Speaker 1: from that regard dealing with his illness this week. So
Speaker 1: whether it is Michael Clark or Trevor Davis, um, you know,
Speaker 1: even a guy like Davante Mays, if he gets in
Speaker 1: there in the backfield, they need to make sure that
Speaker 1: that they have that chance, that they're focused in on
Speaker 1: it and trying to make the most of it. I
Speaker 1: think back to that play and you and I discussed
Speaker 1: this of you know, it takes two to tango and
Speaker 1: Bred Hunley through a heck of a ball in that
Speaker 1: deep pass to Trevor Davis last week against Minnesota, Davis
Speaker 1: doesn't get his arms out, could have potentially with his speed,
Speaker 1: been a you know, a catch and run for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Didn't work. Out that way though, and then that's the
Speaker 1: small kind of room for error that you have to
Speaker 1: do with when even when you know Hunley throws a
Speaker 1: perfect ball, it doesn't mean the big play is going
Speaker 1: to happen. So it takes receivers, it takes the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: being on the same page and they look to develop
Speaker 1: another one of them against Detroit. The one thing I'll
Speaker 1: add though, he has had a lot of comfort level
Speaker 1: with these guys. He's thrown a lot of passes the
Speaker 1: Jeff Janis and you know Michael Clark over the past,
Speaker 1: you know, three or four months, and these scout teams
Speaker 1: and in preseason, so he does have that to fall
Speaker 1: back on. Yeah, and I'm not sure the play with
Speaker 1: Davis that you talked about, I don't know if he
Speaker 1: lost the ball in the lights or just didn't see
Speaker 1: it or what happened there, because it was just really
Speaker 1: strange to see him not only not try to die
Speaker 1: for it, but didn't even really put his arms out
Speaker 1: for it. I thought that was one of the more accurate,
Speaker 1: one of the better deep ball throws that we've seen
Speaker 1: from Brett Hunley, you know, really since the Pittsburgh game,
Speaker 1: probably in terms of really trying to take a shot
Speaker 1: down field, and whatever the circumstances were, it didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Those are the opportunities that the Packers simply can't let
Speaker 1: slip away here because hey, this uh, this Detroit Lions offense.
Speaker 1: As we'll talk about in the next segment with the
Speaker 1: Keys to Victory on defense, this Lions offense came into
Speaker 1: Lambeau Field and kind of lit up the Packers defense
Speaker 1: last time. The Packers are going to need to score
Speaker 1: some points on Sunday in order to win this game.
Speaker 1: Try to finish the season at eight and eight. When
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to make a play, you can't
Speaker 1: let it get away. Yeah. And I don't want to
Speaker 1: sit here and make this like I'm trying to rip
Speaker 1: on Trevor Davis or anything like that. It's just I
Speaker 1: think it really shows you why this game, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: is so beautiful, because it takes more than one player
Speaker 1: at times to make a big play happen. Absolutely. Think
Speaker 1: even in that back shoulder throw um you can look
Speaker 1: at the Michael Clark one, you know where it didn't
Speaker 1: work out there, But think back, you know till last
Speaker 1: year when Aaron Rodgers was trying to connect with Davante
Speaker 1: Adams on that in the end zone. It's not easy.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes a redo to make those things happen,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you're not afforded that opportunity. So it's time.
Speaker 1: It's things that these guys are going to develop. You know,
Speaker 1: in the more reps they get, the faster they're going
Speaker 1: to play, the better it's going to be for them.
Speaker 1: In the long run. That depth chart is going to
Speaker 1: be really deep going into the off season for the
Speaker 1: Packers that receiver. So it's gonna take, you know, these
Speaker 1: small moments in time to really allow guys like Michael
Speaker 1: Clark or you know, Trevor Davis to really cement themselves
Speaker 1: in this line up. Yeah, trying to finish on a
Speaker 1: high note. But with that, we'll toss to a breakback
Speaker 1: with more and Packers Unscripted right after this, Welcome back
Speaker 1: to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair, Wes hodkouhits
Speaker 1: in that one in West, continuing our discussion of keys
Speaker 1: to victory, but shifting gears to the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball for the Green Bay Packers heading into Ford
Speaker 1: Field against Matthew Stafford and that Lions offense. What are
Speaker 1: you thinking. I think it starts with getting pressure on
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford in that Lion's offense. I mean, you look
Speaker 1: at his stats and I don't have them all up
Speaker 1: in front of me right now, Mike, but I will say,
Speaker 1: much like a lot of NFL quarterbacks, but I think
Speaker 1: specifically with Stafford, the more pressure you get on him,
Speaker 1: the better chances your defense is going to have, because
Speaker 1: sometimes that's where he forsakes the fundamentals. I think that's
Speaker 1: sort of been the book on him over the years.
Speaker 1: The arm, the football start coming outside arm, he'll start
Speaker 1: throwing off his back foot a little bit more. So
Speaker 1: that's gonna be really important. And I think one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why that feeds so much into it is
Speaker 1: because of what he has outside with Marvin Jones Jr.
Speaker 1: We've seen what he's done when he's been able to
Speaker 1: really get that rhythm and time. And going with Stafford
Speaker 1: against this Packers defense, Golden Tate is a guy that
Speaker 1: has been there for a number of years, one of
Speaker 1: the most effective, you know, possession receivers in the game. Um,
Speaker 1: I look at this Packers defense now again, as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have Nick Perry in this contest claim Matthews,
Speaker 1: dealing with the hamstring injury, will have to see what
Speaker 1: he can give them. But you look at Kenny Clark
Speaker 1: inside coming off his two sack performance. You have Mike
Speaker 1: Daniels there sounds like he'll be a full go despite
Speaker 1: the shoulder injury. He stayed sustained in practice this week.
Speaker 1: If you can get that interior pressure, that's what's gonna
Speaker 1: allow that stuff to open up a little bit more
Speaker 1: for those guys outside. Yeah, when I look at the
Speaker 1: first meeting this season between the Packers and the Lions,
Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say that Matthew Stafford got
Speaker 1: into a rhythm and the Packers never got him out
Speaker 1: of it. And when you talk about pressure, whether it's
Speaker 1: just getting him off the spot, disrupting that passing game somehow,
Speaker 1: And it just seemed like whatever the Packers tried on
Speaker 1: that Monday night game back in November, whether it was
Speaker 1: a slot blitz, whether it was you know, the cross
Speaker 1: dog in the middle, anything they did to try to
Speaker 1: disrupt Stafford, it was like he had his guys ready,
Speaker 1: they picked everything up. He was getting the ball out
Speaker 1: on time. The Packers just never got that rhythm disrupted.
Speaker 1: So whatever it takes, you can't let him settle in
Speaker 1: because playing at home, you know, it's going to be
Speaker 1: even more difficult to uh to hold that offense down.
Speaker 1: And this Packers defense, as I said earlier this week,
Speaker 1: I think I think they're out there. They're out playing
Speaker 1: for a little bit of pride because to me, when
Speaker 1: I look at the entire the entirety of this season,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or no, Aaron Rodgers or whatever, I think
Speaker 1: that defensive performance against the Lions on Monday night was
Speaker 1: maybe the most disappointing one of the entire season. I
Speaker 1: think this Packers defense wants to make up for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, Mike. And the thing that's kind of interesting too,
Speaker 1: and you go back and look at, you know, the
Speaker 1: history there against Matthew Stafford and really recently this Lions offense.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different than most weeks because you
Speaker 1: and I will sit here at times and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you want to try to make them one dimensional? The Lions,
Speaker 1: for better or worse, inherently are one Dimensional's been one
Speaker 1: dimensional all year long. They have this thirty second ranked
Speaker 1: rushing offense in the league. They have not had a
Speaker 1: hundred yard rusher. You know in now I think too
Speaker 1: three seasons whatever it is, spanning sixty games. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying you can take them for granted on the ground.
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. They could come out and
Speaker 1: have a good game. We talked about their new options
Speaker 1: in the backfield earlier this week, but you know where
Speaker 1: the point of emphasis is going to be. It's going
Speaker 1: to be on Matthew Stafford's arm. It's gonna be on
Speaker 1: those receivers. Eric Ebron has become a very capable tight
Speaker 1: end in the middle of the field as well, so
Speaker 1: that is where you have to be looking. The cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: Will see again if you can get to Marius Randall
Speaker 1: out there this week with the knee injury and missed
Speaker 1: last week, with potentially match him up with with Marvin
Speaker 1: Jones Jr. You have Morgan Burnett potentially being able to
Speaker 1: go up against either Ebrun or maybe Golden Tate. They
Speaker 1: are healthier in the secondary, as strange as it sounds,
Speaker 1: it seems like going into this contest, so I think
Speaker 1: that can be a big plus for them and allow
Speaker 1: those guys up front to be able to do the
Speaker 1: work that they need to do. Yeah, another thing you
Speaker 1: have to watch out for now with Matthew Stafford is
Speaker 1: his ability to, much like Aaron Rodgers does, to catch
Speaker 1: the defense with twelve on the field, to catch you
Speaker 1: in the middle of a substitution. And it was funny.
Speaker 1: I asked Mike McCarthy about this just briefly in his
Speaker 1: Friday press conference and and he said, hey, don't forget
Speaker 1: about t J. Lang, sort of suggesting that it might
Speaker 1: have been Land that shared some of the secrets with
Speaker 1: Stafford as to the mechanics of it, like how you
Speaker 1: do this, what you watch for a code word? You know,
Speaker 1: all these all these things that the Packers have done
Speaker 1: over the years with Rogers to catch twelve on the field.
Speaker 1: And I remember watching the Thanksgiving game against the Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings this year in Detroit, and Stafford ends up throwing
Speaker 1: like a forty yard touchdown pass on a play where
Speaker 1: he had a free play with twelve guys on the field.
Speaker 1: The twelve defender actually didn't leave the field and provided
Speaker 1: double coverage and he completed the passwords just down anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Terrence Newman, So you gotta watch out for that, because
Speaker 1: this this is just another area where Matthew Stafford has
Speaker 1: taken his game to another level compared to where he
Speaker 1: was a couple of years ago. And yes, the Lions
Speaker 1: aren't going to the playoffs this year. They've had a
Speaker 1: disappointing season. There's a lot of talk about whether Jim
Speaker 1: Calledwell will be back as head coach or not. But
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is the constant with this team and I
Speaker 1: I just see him. He continues to add things to
Speaker 1: his game every time the Packers see him. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: absolutely a beautiful pass going back to that Thanksgiving game.
Speaker 1: I believe it was to Marvin Jones Jr. I think,
Speaker 1: I think you're correct. And Terrence Newman actually, a lot
Speaker 1: of Packer fans we get this a lot of inbox saying, well,
Speaker 1: if you get caught for twelvemen on the field, why
Speaker 1: don't they just stay on the field. That's what Terrence yea,
Speaker 1: he was trying. He was trying to run off and
Speaker 1: then when the snap was made, he just turned up
Speaker 1: the sideline and ran with the wide receiver for double
Speaker 1: coverage and they completed it for a touchdown and still
Speaker 1: got it there. But that is the dynamic he adds
Speaker 1: and I mean keep in mind now. I mean Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford is a veteran now for a number of years,
Speaker 1: he was the little brother kind of in this division.
Speaker 1: He's eight years into this thing. He's a Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: type quarterback. He's had his ups and downs, but on
Speaker 1: any given week and go off in terms of that
Speaker 1: passing game. Packers have to be very sure about that.
Speaker 1: The one thing that I think helps screen big going
Speaker 1: into this, as strange as it sounds, the ability to
Speaker 1: play some of those young guys last week, like Reggie Gilbert,
Speaker 1: Lindsay Pipkins if he's called upon again. Those guys have
Speaker 1: some work now, they have some reps, and they produced
Speaker 1: when they got the chance. So fresh legs to fresh legs.
Speaker 1: So we'll see again. Maybe it's Matthews, maybe it's on
Speaker 1: Modd Brooks, and maybe it looks more like the usual
Speaker 1: core pass rushers. But they know that they have Reggie
Speaker 1: Gilbert there too if they need him. All right, with that,
Speaker 1: let's toss to another breakback with more and Packers Unscripted
Speaker 1: right after this, Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford here,
Speaker 1: Wes hodkoit's over there, and I want to talk about
Speaker 1: a little bit of a milestone that's being reached in
Speaker 1: the media world this weekend. No, it's actually not for us.
Speaker 1: Not for us, but on Sunday at Ford Field in Detroit,
Speaker 1: from the Packers Radio Network, Wayne Larvy and Larry McCarron,
Speaker 1: we'll call their three game regular season and postseason combined
Speaker 1: for the Packers Radio Network, and that is actually going
Speaker 1: to tie Jim Irwin and Max McGee for the most
Speaker 1: games on the Packers Radio network as a duo. I
Speaker 1: think that's pretty cool. I mean, I grew up listening
Speaker 1: to Jim Erwin and Max McGee on the radio. Loved
Speaker 1: what they do. I love what Wayne and Larry do.
Speaker 1: Um the fact that the Packers in essence, and I
Speaker 1: know Larry was kind of a bridge because there was
Speaker 1: a three man booth there for a while and he
Speaker 1: was a bridge, you know, to Wayne then coming in
Speaker 1: as the play by play man. But I think it's
Speaker 1: pretty neat that the pack Is now have gone all
Speaker 1: the way back to nine seventy nine when Jim Erwin
Speaker 1: and Max McGee started that they've essentially had just two
Speaker 1: radio teams going going all the way back to the
Speaker 1: late nineteen seventies. That's pretty neat. It is neat, Mike,
Speaker 1: because I mean you even look at like with the
Speaker 1: Brewers and obviously Bob Yuker in the run he's been on,
Speaker 1: but he's had a lot of guys with them, you know,
Speaker 1: to have two guys together, that's such a special run.
Speaker 1: And I've said this, you know, many times before, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure Larry will probably get mad at me if
Speaker 1: I said it. I really hope people appreciate Larry McCarron
Speaker 1: and what he's brought, not only on the radio, but
Speaker 1: you know, the the other avenues. I think he's one
Speaker 1: of the greatest ambassadors enfranchise history of Packers football. Um.
Speaker 1: And you know he hears so much about Bob Yuker
Speaker 1: and rightfully so one of the greatest ever do it.
Speaker 1: A multi platform type personality, I mean, I see Larry
Speaker 1: has a lot of that with the Packers though too.
Speaker 1: And for him and Wayne to have this run together, um,
Speaker 1: after that, that tremendous run over when a McGhee you
Speaker 1: mentioned listen to them growing up. I listened to Wayne
Speaker 1: and Larry growing up as a kid, so uh that
Speaker 1: that's just the way this thing goes. And to have that,
Speaker 1: I think it connects everybody. It's the voice and how
Speaker 1: often do you see it to Mike that you and
Speaker 1: I'll answer inbox and they'll people ask or they'll mention
Speaker 1: who the court you know the announcers are for a
Speaker 1: particular game, and no disrespect to them, but they say,
Speaker 1: you know, we turned that down and we listen to
Speaker 1: Wayne and Larry. It's it happens every week. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I talked with Wayne and Larry for a piece I'm
Speaker 1: doing my one Last Look column that will be posted
Speaker 1: Saturday on the website is about this milestone of theirs
Speaker 1: and matching Jim and Max. And a comment that Larry
Speaker 1: made to me was really interesting. He said he really
Speaker 1: credits Jim and Max for all of those people who
Speaker 1: do exactly what you said, which is they turned down
Speaker 1: the volume on their television and they listened to the
Speaker 1: Packers Radio Network broadcast. Because people did that with Jim
Speaker 1: Erwhen and Max McGee, they've continued it with Wayne Larvy
Speaker 1: and Larry McCarn and just to give folks the breakdown
Speaker 1: on the numbers, Jim and Max nine through game two
Speaker 1: regular season plus sixteen postseason, Wayne and Larry together beginning
Speaker 1: in nine through now this will be their three game
Speaker 1: two D eighty eight regular season and twenty four post season.
Speaker 1: A lot more success overall for the franchise with with
Speaker 1: Wayne and Larry and uh Wayne actually told me that
Speaker 1: that's actually helped them in the sense that they didn't
Speaker 1: need to develop sort of the homespun humor that the
Speaker 1: down home folksy type of broadcast that Jim and Max did,
Speaker 1: which is what which is what really entertained people when
Speaker 1: the team was not doing so well. Wayne and Larry
Speaker 1: have covered a lot of very successful teams. They've been
Speaker 1: very much more of a hardcore XS and OS type
Speaker 1: of team. Just interesting the way it's evolved. But but
Speaker 1: you know, hats off to to both teams for for
Speaker 1: what they've done over the years. For the Packers, It's
Speaker 1: funny you bring that up too, because I know, talking
Speaker 1: to my dad in the past two about Irwin and
Speaker 1: McGee about how that was almost kind of one of
Speaker 1: the comical things about listening to the Packers, specifically for
Speaker 1: him in the eighties. Yeah, during some of the lean
Speaker 1: years there the fact that those guys always found a
Speaker 1: way to still keep it entertaining, keep it light and obviously, um,
Speaker 1: you know, keep you set on everything else that that's
Speaker 1: going on almost away from the field. But yeah, from
Speaker 1: from Wayne and Larry's perspective, an amazing run. They've been
Speaker 1: on some tremendous games they've been able to cover, and
Speaker 1: certainly you know a lot more to come. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think we can all remember hearing those radio calls
Speaker 1: from Jim and Max back in when the Packers won
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship and we're going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: The joy, the unbridled joy in their voice, all those
Speaker 1: seasons that they had been through and to get there.
Speaker 1: That they really personified what Packers fans were about at
Speaker 1: that time. They did, and I recorded that too. I
Speaker 1: still have that recording on a cassette tape. I actually
Speaker 1: paid it. Good for you there the entire time. I
Speaker 1: used to be big into that kind of stuff. That's neat. That'
Speaker 1: s neat. Well, before we go to a break west
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Speaker 1: Mike Spofford alongside West, Hodkowitz and West. Here our final
Speaker 1: segment heading into Week seventeen, the playoff picture. Some spots
Speaker 1: still to be decided in both conferences. In the NFC,
Speaker 1: You've got one spot available between the Falcons and the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: The Falcons host the Panthers. If they win it, they
Speaker 1: get it. If they lose, Seattle can get it with
Speaker 1: a victory over the Arizona Cardinals. You've got a prediction.
Speaker 1: How you think this is gonna fall. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like family few, you know, or anything. You're like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's either you get it or they have a chance
Speaker 1: to steal um. You know, I'll be honest with them.
Speaker 1: Hoping the Falcons win this um, I think they're going
Speaker 1: to I think they're going to find a way to
Speaker 1: win at home. That Caroline is a good team. I
Speaker 1: think Atlanta finds a way to win at home and
Speaker 1: get back with a chance to defend their NFC crown.
Speaker 1: Yeah and everything. I mean, you look at the way
Speaker 1: that this conference and everything is set up right now.
Speaker 1: I just want to see the Falcons have another chance
Speaker 1: at it. I'm not saying they're gonna get on a run.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna have a chance to redeem
Speaker 1: themselves after last year, but it would be I think
Speaker 1: it would just be more interesting to see them have
Speaker 1: a chance to get in the playoffs and see what
Speaker 1: they can do from there. To me, Seattle, even if
Speaker 1: they win this, they're a broken team. They're they're riding
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson right now, the defense is banged up. A
Speaker 1: lot of questions across the board there, so um and
Speaker 1: that's I'm not trying to rip on see how I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, I just don't know how compelling they would
Speaker 1: be in a playoffs scenario. I think Atlanta could make
Speaker 1: for some really interesting matchups if you get all three
Speaker 1: of those NFC sell teams in the in the big race. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. And on the a f C side,
Speaker 1: you have four teams right now competing for two spots,
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, the Buffalo Bills, the Tennessee Titans, and
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. Baltimore is the team in the
Speaker 1: driver's seat. They can win and get in. They can
Speaker 1: also get in fairly easily if just one of the
Speaker 1: other teams loses. Essentially, I don't know exactly the entire scenario,
Speaker 1: but I think Baltimore is going to get one of
Speaker 1: those spots. Who gets the other one is a very
Speaker 1: interesting question because I think Tennessee is the next one
Speaker 1: with control. But they've only won like one football game
Speaker 1: in the last month or a month and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've they've slid, They've slid down. Los Angeles, the Chargers,
Speaker 1: they were hot for a while, they kind of cooled off.
Speaker 1: They lost, you know, a big game in Kansas City
Speaker 1: where they were in the hunt for that a f
Speaker 1: C West title, and then the Buffalo Bills have just
Speaker 1: kind of hung around. They haven't been all that impressive,
Speaker 1: but they haven't fallen off the face of the earth either.
Speaker 1: Do you have any prediction here? What do you think
Speaker 1: it is interesting because I know I've read some stuff
Speaker 1: out there saying if they wouldn't have really benched tailor
Speaker 1: not to say they would have won that game, but
Speaker 1: basically the Peter the main game could end up being
Speaker 1: the one that ultimately tilts the season for them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Five interceptions in the first half. Yeah, whether or not
Speaker 1: that they make the playoffs here, I actually think the
Speaker 1: biggest game is probably Jacksonville and Tennessee. Tennessee is trying
Speaker 1: to squeak in. Jacksonville needs to regain himself here. I mean,
Speaker 1: they got lit up by Jimmy Garofolo, so I mean
Speaker 1: that's gonna be key. I think for them to try
Speaker 1: win this game, get themselves in the playoffs, and feel
Speaker 1: good about where they're at. Uh. To me, I've said
Speaker 1: it all along, Mike, I think Baltimore is a better
Speaker 1: team that people give them credit for. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's wide open. A part of me, I think would
Speaker 1: like to see Buffalo make it just because it's been
Speaker 1: so long, and think it's the longest skid right now
Speaker 1: in the NFL, right and more the Cleveland dating back
Speaker 1: to this century, they have not been to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and their defense has played well at times. Michael Hayde
Speaker 1: obviously a Pro Bowl safety there, So I'm I think
Speaker 1: that's the team I'm kind of looking for right now. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: it should be an interesting Week seventeen for sure, But
Speaker 1: with that we will call it a wrap on this
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