1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by my colleague 3 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. Were coming to here from our studios at 4 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: lambeau Field and West final show of the week leading 5 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: into Packers Lions, the season finale for both teams Sunday 6 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: noon Central kickoff at Ford Field in Detroit. It's Keys 7 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: to Victory Day and we always start on the offensive 8 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: side of the ball for the Packers. So what do 9 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: you got, I mean, Alex Van Pelt, in a joking manner, 10 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: said during his Thursday news conference when the assistant coaches 11 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: were available, I mean, Bred Hunley's back on the road. 12 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: He's been hot on the road, so you hope that 13 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: that continues. Certainly, He did reiterate that you think that's 14 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: that's kind of a fluke, the that the stats have 15 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: turned out this year. Hunley's road passerating though you can't 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: argue with it. It's like and he has had a 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: lot of fair share of success, particularly late in ball 18 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: games when he's away from lambeau Field. So um, while 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: the Packers believe that he can win games at home 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: and believe he can throw touchdowns, at home. Um, they 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: they're fine with riding the hot hand at Ford Field. 22 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: And this is an interesting ball game, Mike, because after 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: last week I was kind of you know, I said 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: one of the keys of victories, I didn't anticipate they 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: throw more than thirty five times. They end up throwing 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: for forty times in that weather not exactly ideal. Well, 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: now you're in the temperate, you know, dome. So I'm 28 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: really interested to see how this plays out. Its back 29 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: to back years, the Packers finishing the season in Detroit, 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: much different scenario than a year ago, where there's a 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: lot of different while they both were in the playoffs, 32 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different things on the line in 33 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: terms of seating. So it'll be interesting to watch. But Hunley, 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: definitely it starts with him and protecting the football. Yeah, 35 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know how to explain his home versus 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: road statistics. It's it to me. I don't think it's 37 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: not as though the games in Pittsburgh and Cleveland, those 39 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: road games where these pristine conditions. I mean, they were 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: very similar, not like Minnesota last Saturday night, where it 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: was very very cold, but he's played road games in 42 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: the Chili conditions and a little bit of wind and 43 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: things like that. So the difference between the home and 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: the road statistics, to me, I'm not going to try 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: to try to provide an explanation, but what I will 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: say about what the Packers need to do to win 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: this game. For me, it just comes down to making 48 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: the plays that are there. Because there were plays to 49 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: be made against the Minnesota Vikings that could have put 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: pressure on Minnesota that would have kept the Packers in 51 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: the game. It was about a half a dozen drop passes, 52 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: all of them would have been for first downs, would 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: have kept drives going, would have developed some rhythm and 54 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: momentum for your young quarterback, and the Packers just dropped 55 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: the ball too many times. And I know there's some 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: accuracy issues with Brett Hunley. There were some deep balls 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: late in the game that weren't on target, other things 58 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: like that that happened. But when he does make the throw, 59 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: the Packers have got to catch the ball and they've 60 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: got to help out their young or back to to 61 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: develop some of that rhythm and momentum. That's what they 62 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: need to do. Indoors on Sunday afternoon. Yeah, and it's 63 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting matchup for the Packers here because 64 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: they already know they're not gonna have Davante Adams, they 65 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: won't have Jordy Nelson, Jarry Evans has been rolled out 66 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: of this one. They're starting right guard for four teen 67 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: games this season. So it's gonna be a lot of 68 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: young guys playing in this ball game. And obviously Gerano 69 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: Allison is another guy to keep an eye on two 70 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: from that regard dealing with his illness this week. So 71 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: whether it is Michael Clark or Trevor Davis, um, you know, 72 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: even a guy like Davante Mays, if he gets in 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: there in the backfield, they need to make sure that 74 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: that they have that chance, that they're focused in on 75 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: it and trying to make the most of it. I 76 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: think back to that play and you and I discussed 77 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: this of you know, it takes two to tango and 78 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: Bred Hunley through a heck of a ball in that 79 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: deep pass to Trevor Davis last week against Minnesota, Davis 80 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: doesn't get his arms out, could have potentially with his speed, 81 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: been a you know, a catch and run for a touchdown. 82 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: Didn't work. Out that way though, and then that's the 83 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: small kind of room for error that you have to 84 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: do with when even when you know Hunley throws a 85 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: perfect ball, it doesn't mean the big play is going 86 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: to happen. So it takes receivers, it takes the quarterbacks 87 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: being on the same page and they look to develop 88 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: another one of them against Detroit. The one thing I'll 89 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: add though, he has had a lot of comfort level 90 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: with these guys. He's thrown a lot of passes the 91 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: Jeff Janis and you know Michael Clark over the past, 92 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, three or four months, and these scout teams 93 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: and in preseason, so he does have that to fall 94 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: back on. Yeah, and I'm not sure the play with 95 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: Davis that you talked about, I don't know if he 96 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: lost the ball in the lights or just didn't see 97 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: it or what happened there, because it was just really 98 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: strange to see him not only not try to die 99 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: for it, but didn't even really put his arms out 100 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: for it. I thought that was one of the more accurate, 101 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: one of the better deep ball throws that we've seen 102 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: from Brett Hunley, you know, really since the Pittsburgh game, 103 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,119 Speaker 1: probably in terms of really trying to take a shot 104 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: down field, and whatever the circumstances were, it didn't work out. 105 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: Those are the opportunities that the Packers simply can't let 106 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: slip away here because hey, this uh, this Detroit Lions offense. 107 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: As we'll talk about in the next segment with the 108 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: Keys to Victory on defense, this Lions offense came into 109 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: Lambeau Field and kind of lit up the Packers defense 110 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: last time. The Packers are going to need to score 111 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: some points on Sunday in order to win this game. 112 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: Try to finish the season at eight and eight. When 113 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to make a play, you can't 114 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: let it get away. Yeah. And I don't want to 115 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: sit here and make this like I'm trying to rip 116 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: on Trevor Davis or anything like that. It's just I 117 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: think it really shows you why this game, in my opinion, 118 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,559 Speaker 1: is so beautiful, because it takes more than one player 119 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: at times to make a big play happen. Absolutely. Think 120 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: even in that back shoulder throw um you can look 121 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: at the Michael Clark one, you know where it didn't 122 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: work out there, But think back, you know till last 123 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: year when Aaron Rodgers was trying to connect with Davante 124 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: Adams on that in the end zone. It's not easy. 125 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes a redo to make those things happen, 126 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes you're not afforded that opportunity. So it's time. 127 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: It's things that these guys are going to develop. You know, 128 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: in the more reps they get, the faster they're going 129 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: to play, the better it's going to be for them. 130 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: In the long run. That depth chart is going to 131 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: be really deep going into the off season for the 132 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: Packers that receiver. So it's gonna take, you know, these 133 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: small moments in time to really allow guys like Michael 134 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: Clark or you know, Trevor Davis to really cement themselves 135 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: in this line up. Yeah, trying to finish on a 136 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: high note. But with that, we'll toss to a breakback 137 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: with more and Packers Unscripted right after this, Welcome back 138 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair, Wes hodkouhits 139 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: in that one in West, continuing our discussion of keys 140 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: to victory, but shifting gears to the defensive side of 141 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: the ball for the Green Bay Packers heading into Ford 142 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: Field against Matthew Stafford and that Lions offense. What are 143 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: you thinking. I think it starts with getting pressure on 144 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford in that Lion's offense. I mean, you look 145 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: at his stats and I don't have them all up 146 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: in front of me right now, Mike, but I will say, 147 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: much like a lot of NFL quarterbacks, but I think 148 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: specifically with Stafford, the more pressure you get on him, 149 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: the better chances your defense is going to have, because 150 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: sometimes that's where he forsakes the fundamentals. I think that's 151 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: sort of been the book on him over the years. 152 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: The arm, the football start coming outside arm, he'll start 153 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: throwing off his back foot a little bit more. So 154 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna be really important. And I think one of 155 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: the reasons why that feeds so much into it is 156 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: because of what he has outside with Marvin Jones Jr. 157 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: We've seen what he's done when he's been able to 158 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: really get that rhythm and time. And going with Stafford 159 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: against this Packers defense, Golden Tate is a guy that 160 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: has been there for a number of years, one of 161 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: the most effective, you know, possession receivers in the game. Um, 162 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 1: I look at this Packers defense now again, as I mentioned, 163 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have Nick Perry in this contest claim Matthews, 164 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: dealing with the hamstring injury, will have to see what 165 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,679 Speaker 1: he can give them. But you look at Kenny Clark 166 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: inside coming off his two sack performance. You have Mike 167 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: Daniels there sounds like he'll be a full go despite 168 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: the shoulder injury. He stayed sustained in practice this week. 169 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: If you can get that interior pressure, that's what's gonna 170 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: allow that stuff to open up a little bit more 171 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: for those guys outside. Yeah, when I look at the 172 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: first meeting this season between the Packers and the Lions, 173 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say that Matthew Stafford got 174 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: into a rhythm and the Packers never got him out 175 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: of it. And when you talk about pressure, whether it's 176 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: just getting him off the spot, disrupting that passing game somehow, 177 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: And it just seemed like whatever the Packers tried on 178 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: that Monday night game back in November, whether it was 179 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: a slot blitz, whether it was you know, the cross 180 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: dog in the middle, anything they did to try to 181 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: disrupt Stafford, it was like he had his guys ready, 182 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: they picked everything up. He was getting the ball out 183 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: on time. The Packers just never got that rhythm disrupted. 184 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: So whatever it takes, you can't let him settle in 185 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: because playing at home, you know, it's going to be 186 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: even more difficult to uh to hold that offense down. 187 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: And this Packers defense, as I said earlier this week, 188 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: I think I think they're out there. They're out playing 189 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: for a little bit of pride because to me, when 190 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: I look at the entire the entirety of this season, 191 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or no, Aaron Rodgers or whatever, I think 192 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: that defensive performance against the Lions on Monday night was 193 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: maybe the most disappointing one of the entire season. I 194 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: think this Packers defense wants to make up for it. Yeah, 195 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: I agree, Mike. And the thing that's kind of interesting too, 196 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: and you go back and look at, you know, the 197 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: history there against Matthew Stafford and really recently this Lions offense. 198 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: It's a little bit different than most weeks because you 199 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: and I will sit here at times and say, hey, 200 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: you want to try to make them one dimensional? The Lions, 201 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: for better or worse, inherently are one Dimensional's been one 202 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: dimensional all year long. They have this thirty second ranked 203 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: rushing offense in the league. They have not had a 204 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: hundred yard rusher. You know in now I think too 205 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: three seasons whatever it is, spanning sixty games. I'm not 206 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: saying you can take them for granted on the ground. 207 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. They could come out and 208 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: have a good game. We talked about their new options 209 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: in the backfield earlier this week, but you know where 210 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: the point of emphasis is going to be. It's going 211 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: to be on Matthew Stafford's arm. It's gonna be on 212 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: those receivers. Eric Ebron has become a very capable tight 213 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: end in the middle of the field as well, so 214 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: that is where you have to be looking. The cornerbacks. 215 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: Will see again if you can get to Marius Randall 216 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: out there this week with the knee injury and missed 217 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: last week, with potentially match him up with with Marvin 218 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: Jones Jr. You have Morgan Burnett potentially being able to 219 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: go up against either Ebrun or maybe Golden Tate. They 220 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: are healthier in the secondary, as strange as it sounds, 221 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: it seems like going into this contest, so I think 222 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: that can be a big plus for them and allow 223 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: those guys up front to be able to do the 224 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: work that they need to do. Yeah, another thing you 225 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: have to watch out for now with Matthew Stafford is 226 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: his ability to, much like Aaron Rodgers does, to catch 227 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: the defense with twelve on the field, to catch you 228 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: in the middle of a substitution. And it was funny. 229 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: I asked Mike McCarthy about this just briefly in his 230 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: Friday press conference and and he said, hey, don't forget 231 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: about t J. Lang, sort of suggesting that it might 232 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: have been Land that shared some of the secrets with 233 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: Stafford as to the mechanics of it, like how you 234 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: do this, what you watch for a code word? You know, 235 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: all these all these things that the Packers have done 236 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: over the years with Rogers to catch twelve on the field. 237 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: And I remember watching the Thanksgiving game against the Minnesota 238 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: Vikings this year in Detroit, and Stafford ends up throwing 239 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: like a forty yard touchdown pass on a play where 240 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: he had a free play with twelve guys on the field. 241 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: The twelve defender actually didn't leave the field and provided 242 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: double coverage and he completed the passwords just down anyway. Yeah, 243 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: Terrence Newman, So you gotta watch out for that, because 244 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: this this is just another area where Matthew Stafford has 245 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: taken his game to another level compared to where he 246 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: was a couple of years ago. And yes, the Lions 247 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: aren't going to the playoffs this year. They've had a 248 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: disappointing season. There's a lot of talk about whether Jim 249 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: Calledwell will be back as head coach or not. But 250 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is the constant with this team and I 251 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: I just see him. He continues to add things to 252 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: his game every time the Packers see him. Yeah, and 253 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: absolutely a beautiful pass going back to that Thanksgiving game. 254 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: I believe it was to Marvin Jones Jr. I think, 255 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: I think you're correct. And Terrence Newman actually, a lot 256 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: of Packer fans we get this a lot of inbox saying, well, 257 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: if you get caught for twelvemen on the field, why 258 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: don't they just stay on the field. That's what Terrence yea, 259 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: he was trying. He was trying to run off and 260 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: then when the snap was made, he just turned up 261 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: the sideline and ran with the wide receiver for double 262 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: coverage and they completed it for a touchdown and still 263 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: got it there. But that is the dynamic he adds 264 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: and I mean keep in mind now. I mean Matthew 265 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: Stafford is a veteran now for a number of years, 266 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: he was the little brother kind of in this division. 267 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: He's eight years into this thing. He's a Pro Bowl 268 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: type quarterback. He's had his ups and downs, but on 269 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: any given week and go off in terms of that 270 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: passing game. Packers have to be very sure about that. 271 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: The one thing that I think helps screen big going 272 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: into this, as strange as it sounds, the ability to 273 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: play some of those young guys last week, like Reggie Gilbert, 274 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: Lindsay Pipkins if he's called upon again. Those guys have 275 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: some work now, they have some reps, and they produced 276 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: when they got the chance. So fresh legs to fresh legs. 277 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: So we'll see again. Maybe it's Matthews, maybe it's on 278 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: Modd Brooks, and maybe it looks more like the usual 279 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: core pass rushers. But they know that they have Reggie 280 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: Gilbert there too if they need him. All right, with that, 281 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 1: let's toss to another breakback with more and Packers Unscripted 282 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: right after this, Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford here, 283 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: Wes hodkoit's over there, and I want to talk about 284 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of a milestone that's being reached in 285 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: the media world this weekend. No, it's actually not for us. 286 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: Not for us, but on Sunday at Ford Field in Detroit, 287 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: from the Packers Radio Network, Wayne Larvy and Larry McCarron, 288 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: we'll call their three game regular season and postseason combined 289 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: for the Packers Radio Network, and that is actually going 290 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: to tie Jim Irwin and Max McGee for the most 291 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: games on the Packers Radio network as a duo. I 292 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: think that's pretty cool. I mean, I grew up listening 293 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: to Jim Erwin and Max McGee on the radio. Loved 294 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: what they do. I love what Wayne and Larry do. 295 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: Um the fact that the Packers in essence, and I 296 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: know Larry was kind of a bridge because there was 297 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: a three man booth there for a while and he 298 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: was a bridge, you know, to Wayne then coming in 299 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: as the play by play man. But I think it's 300 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: pretty neat that the pack Is now have gone all 301 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: the way back to nine seventy nine when Jim Erwin 302 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: and Max McGee started that they've essentially had just two 303 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: radio teams going going all the way back to the 304 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: late nineteen seventies. That's pretty neat. It is neat, Mike, 305 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: because I mean you even look at like with the 306 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: Brewers and obviously Bob Yuker in the run he's been on, 307 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: but he's had a lot of guys with them, you know, 308 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: to have two guys together, that's such a special run. 309 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: And I've said this, you know, many times before, and 310 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure Larry will probably get mad at me if 311 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: I said it. I really hope people appreciate Larry McCarron 312 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: and what he's brought, not only on the radio, but 313 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, the the other avenues. I think he's one 314 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: of the greatest ambassadors enfranchise history of Packers football. Um. 315 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: And you know he hears so much about Bob Yuker 316 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: and rightfully so one of the greatest ever do it. 317 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: A multi platform type personality, I mean, I see Larry 318 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: has a lot of that with the Packers though too. 319 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: And for him and Wayne to have this run together, um, 320 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: after that, that tremendous run over when a McGhee you 321 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: mentioned listen to them growing up. I listened to Wayne 322 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: and Larry growing up as a kid, so uh that 323 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: that's just the way this thing goes. And to have that, 324 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: I think it connects everybody. It's the voice and how 325 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: often do you see it to Mike that you and 326 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: I'll answer inbox and they'll people ask or they'll mention 327 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: who the court you know the announcers are for a 328 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: particular game, and no disrespect to them, but they say, 329 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, we turned that down and we listen to 330 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: Wayne and Larry. It's it happens every week. Yeah, And 331 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: I talked with Wayne and Larry for a piece I'm 332 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: doing my one Last Look column that will be posted 333 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: Saturday on the website is about this milestone of theirs 334 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: and matching Jim and Max. And a comment that Larry 335 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: made to me was really interesting. He said he really 336 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: credits Jim and Max for all of those people who 337 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: do exactly what you said, which is they turned down 338 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: the volume on their television and they listened to the 339 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: Packers Radio Network broadcast. Because people did that with Jim 340 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: Erwhen and Max McGee, they've continued it with Wayne Larvy 341 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: and Larry McCarn and just to give folks the breakdown 342 00:15:54,440 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: on the numbers, Jim and Max nine through game two 343 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: regular season plus sixteen postseason, Wayne and Larry together beginning 344 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: in nine through now this will be their three game 345 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: two D eighty eight regular season and twenty four post season. 346 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: A lot more success overall for the franchise with with 347 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: Wayne and Larry and uh Wayne actually told me that 348 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: that's actually helped them in the sense that they didn't 349 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: need to develop sort of the homespun humor that the 350 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: down home folksy type of broadcast that Jim and Max did, 351 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: which is what which is what really entertained people when 352 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: the team was not doing so well. Wayne and Larry 353 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: have covered a lot of very successful teams. They've been 354 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: very much more of a hardcore XS and OS type 355 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: of team. Just interesting the way it's evolved. But but 356 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, hats off to to both teams for for 357 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: what they've done over the years. For the Packers, It's 358 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: funny you bring that up too, because I know, talking 359 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: to my dad in the past two about Irwin and 360 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: McGee about how that was almost kind of one of 361 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: the comical things about listening to the Packers, specifically for 362 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: him in the eighties. Yeah, during some of the lean 363 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: years there the fact that those guys always found a 364 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: way to still keep it entertaining, keep it light and obviously, um, 365 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, keep you set on everything else that that's 366 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: going on almost away from the field. But yeah, from 367 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: from Wayne and Larry's perspective, an amazing run. They've been 368 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: on some tremendous games they've been able to cover, and 369 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: certainly you know a lot more to come. Yeah, And 370 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: I think we can all remember hearing those radio calls 371 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: from Jim and Max back in when the Packers won 372 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship and we're going to the super Bowl. 373 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: The joy, the unbridled joy in their voice, all those 374 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: seasons that they had been through and to get there. 375 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: That they really personified what Packers fans were about at 376 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: that time. They did, and I recorded that too. I 377 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: still have that recording on a cassette tape. I actually 378 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: paid it. Good for you there the entire time. I 379 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: used to be big into that kind of stuff. That's neat. That' 380 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: s neat. Well, before we go to a break west 381 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: picture this, you and a friend are sitting V I 382 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: P and plush leather recliners watching the Packers on the 383 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: fifty yard line at lambau Field. Nice picture, isn't it. Well. 384 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: If you enter Cousin Subs Best Seats in the House promotion, 385 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: you and a guest could win it has to kick 386 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: back on the fifty yard line in style. Two pairs 387 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: of lucky Packers fans will be chosen prior to each 388 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: home game for this v I P experience. 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If they lose, Seattle can get it with 398 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: a victory over the Arizona Cardinals. You've got a prediction. 399 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: How you think this is gonna fall. It's kind of 400 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: like family few, you know, or anything. You're like, you know, 401 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: it's either you get it or they have a chance 402 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: to steal um. You know, I'll be honest with them. 403 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: Hoping the Falcons win this um, I think they're going 404 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: to I think they're going to find a way to 405 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: win at home. That Caroline is a good team. I 406 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: think Atlanta finds a way to win at home and 407 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: get back with a chance to defend their NFC crown. 408 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: Yeah and everything. I mean, you look at the way 409 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: that this conference and everything is set up right now. 410 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: I just want to see the Falcons have another chance 411 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: at it. I'm not saying they're gonna get on a run. 412 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna have a chance to redeem 413 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: themselves after last year, but it would be I think 414 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: it would just be more interesting to see them have 415 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: a chance to get in the playoffs and see what 416 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: they can do from there. To me, Seattle, even if 417 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: they win this, they're a broken team. They're they're riding 418 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson right now, the defense is banged up. A 419 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 1: lot of questions across the board there, so um and 420 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: that's I'm not trying to rip on see how I'm 421 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: just saying, I just don't know how compelling they would 422 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: be in a playoffs scenario. I think Atlanta could make 423 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: for some really interesting matchups if you get all three 424 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: of those NFC sell teams in the in the big race. Yeah, 425 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: I agree with you. And on the a f C side, 426 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: you have four teams right now competing for two spots, 427 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, the Buffalo Bills, the Tennessee Titans, and 428 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. Baltimore is the team in the 429 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: driver's seat. They can win and get in. They can 430 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 1: also get in fairly easily if just one of the 431 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: other teams loses. Essentially, I don't know exactly the entire scenario, 432 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: but I think Baltimore is going to get one of 433 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: those spots. Who gets the other one is a very 434 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: interesting question because I think Tennessee is the next one 435 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: with control. But they've only won like one football game 436 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: in the last month or a month and a half. Yeah, 437 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: they've they've slid, They've slid down. Los Angeles, the Chargers, 438 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: they were hot for a while, they kind of cooled off. 439 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: They lost, you know, a big game in Kansas City 440 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: where they were in the hunt for that a f 441 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: C West title, and then the Buffalo Bills have just 442 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: kind of hung around. They haven't been all that impressive, 443 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: but they haven't fallen off the face of the earth either. 444 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: Do you have any prediction here? What do you think 445 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: it is interesting because I know I've read some stuff 446 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: out there saying if they wouldn't have really benched tailor 447 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: not to say they would have won that game, but 448 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: basically the Peter the main game could end up being 449 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: the one that ultimately tilts the season for them. Yeah. 450 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: Five interceptions in the first half. Yeah, whether or not 451 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: that they make the playoffs here, I actually think the 452 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: biggest game is probably Jacksonville and Tennessee. Tennessee is trying 453 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: to squeak in. Jacksonville needs to regain himself here. I mean, 454 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: they got lit up by Jimmy Garofolo, so I mean 455 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna be key. I think for them to try 456 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: win this game, get themselves in the playoffs, and feel 457 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: good about where they're at. Uh. To me, I've said 458 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: it all along, Mike, I think Baltimore is a better 459 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: team that people give them credit for. I don't know, 460 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: it's wide open. A part of me, I think would 461 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: like to see Buffalo make it just because it's been 462 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: so long, and think it's the longest skid right now 463 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL, right and more the Cleveland dating back 464 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: to this century, they have not been to the playoffs, 465 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: and their defense has played well at times. Michael Hayde 466 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: obviously a Pro Bowl safety there, So I'm I think 467 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: that's the team I'm kind of looking for right now. Okay, well, 468 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: it should be an interesting Week seventeen for sure, But 469 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: with that we will call it a wrap on this 470 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of 471 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: our coverage of the team on Packers dot com on Twitter, 472 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: you can still find him at s hod I am At, 473 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: Mike Spofford at Packers for the team count. Thanks for 474 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: tuning in everybody. We will see you next year. M Yeah.