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Speaker 1: From the Virginia Mason Athletics c It's time for the

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Speaker 1: Daily Stretch and Inside Look into the Seahawks. Now your host,

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Speaker 1: Matt Stretch Johnson. Well, welcome to the Final I Guess

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Speaker 1: the Final Final Regular postseason podcast right here on Seahawks

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Speaker 1: dot Com Matt Johnson with John Boyle and all right, John, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, all right, Well it was my fault. We

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Speaker 1: didn't do one yesterday because I was flying back from Charlotte,

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Speaker 1: so we weren't going to do one yesterday. So here

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Speaker 1: we are, after Coach Carroll's postgame press conference and things

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Speaker 1: like that. Where do you want to start? You want

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Speaker 1: to start a little bit with the game, then we'll

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Speaker 1: look at the season. Yeah, we can talk about the

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Speaker 1: game a little bit. All right up, No, not thirty one,

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Speaker 1: nothing at halftime. I mean, we've seen this team come

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Speaker 1: into it, so that part of the equation wasn't that unusual.

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Speaker 1: But to fall back fall behind that big, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember them playing that poorly and getting that

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Speaker 1: that all just kind of rings a bell. It was

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Speaker 1: just one of those, and we've had a couple times

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Speaker 1: this last few weeks of I didn't see it coming.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see the Saint Louis game coming where we

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Speaker 1: get beat at home twenty three seventeen at Arizona, I

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Speaker 1: didn't see that pummeling happened thirty six to six, which actually,

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Speaker 1: if we were to move on, I bet people would

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Speaker 1: be way too confident, you know, just like the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: and no problem, We're going to the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: Arizona playing at home for the NFC Championship game if

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Speaker 1: that were to happen. But yeah, I just didn't see

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Speaker 1: that happening. We're around the team, We're around the locker

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Speaker 1: room or around the players all week and it was

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Speaker 1: just there was a buzz. The guys felt good and confident.

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Speaker 1: So that was the weird part for me. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you know, the way it started was just such a disaster.

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Speaker 1: You have Earl Thomas falls down because he slips, and

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Speaker 1: that turns what might have been, you know, Pete Carroll

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Speaker 1: could have stopped it right there, you might be okay,

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Speaker 1: you get back into it. We've seen them do that.

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Speaker 1: But give Carolina credit. They're a great team. They just

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Speaker 1: kept hammering away, long drive, they got another turner, They

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Speaker 1: just too much to overcome. And the luck was never

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Speaker 1: there because you know, the ball comes loose on that

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Speaker 1: first driveged. But I can't do that. I can't do that.

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Speaker 1: When a team puts up thirty one, that's the thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one in the divisional playoff game at home, god, don't

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Speaker 1: they deserve it? Absolutely? And that's I mean, that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I think. If you're playing if the Seax made those

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Speaker 1: they probably stopped the bleeding at fourteen, seventeen, twenty points

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Speaker 1: But Carolina is a darn good team and they were

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Speaker 1: they then played really well on top. I mean, think

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Speaker 1: over the Seattle Seahawks. Unfortunately. You know, it just feels

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Speaker 1: weird though. Here we're at the building and my friends

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Speaker 1: So it's a weird feeling around here in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: But there was also a lot of optimism. There's, you know,

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Speaker 1: next year. Let's go back to the Luke Wilson comment

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Speaker 1: It's not the same as either super Bowl year. Just

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Speaker 1: how are you good? Good to see you, Brian Pan

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Speaker 1: Digital content producer. Nice to see all right? No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: John Brian. My name's Matt Johnson. Thanks for listening all

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