Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hollowers at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, etc. Now, your hosts, micky' spagnola, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and Bill Jones. Well, it's a beautiful Monday
Speaker 1: here in Frisco, Texas. It is. It's not a cloudless
Speaker 1: guy as far as the weather goes in Prisco, Texas. Star.
Speaker 1: It was a fog shrouded morning once again for the
Speaker 1: second straight day. Y'all aren't here to see it yesterday,
Speaker 1: Mickey and Rob, But it was very foggy this morning.
Speaker 1: It lifted about three o'clock in the afternoon and then
Speaker 1: the fog came back. Well, we experienced the fog early
Speaker 1: this morning. By the way, it's right. I was concerned
Speaker 1: on your return from Philly, yes last night, if the
Speaker 1: fog would hit and even after how long was the
Speaker 1: delay the team charter leaving Philly last night. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It felt like three hours, but it was probably an
Speaker 1: hour hour and a half it was. It was four hours,
Speaker 1: nearly four hours after the end of the game where
Speaker 1: the team charter finally took off, but just after ten
Speaker 1: o'clock Dallas time. We made decent time. But it was
Speaker 1: the perfect ending to a perfect Yeah that's what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. Yeah, you know, you get your butts kicked,
Speaker 1: you really hand them the game, and then you have
Speaker 1: to sit on the run way, right, were sitting on
Speaker 1: the run like, no, you were sitting at at the
Speaker 1: stadium on the bus. Yeah, that's even better. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was great. It was like one last kick in the ass.
Speaker 1: That was like me when I didn't make the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame and I told me, said, you gotta be
Speaker 1: downstairs in five minutes, like, uh, hey, what you gonna
Speaker 1: do when I get ready to the bus. That was
Speaker 1: just so depressing. Yeah, you especially in the plane, you're
Speaker 1: all kind of spread out right in the bus, everybody's
Speaker 1: on top of each other. And I know Rob was
Speaker 1: in the safe situation. We're we're going like, well we
Speaker 1: might as well work, right, Well, everybody else has got
Speaker 1: their phones going, music's playing, and you know, and you're
Speaker 1: trying to I put my noise canceling headphones on and
Speaker 1: it wasn't canceling enough and I had to do all
Speaker 1: I could do was grip my teeth and like not
Speaker 1: yell out shut the you were you were been like
Speaker 1: Textram after one of those sorry Cowboy games, saying Saint
Speaker 1: Louis right. I remember him standing between first class and
Speaker 1: coach and he had his drink in his hand and
Speaker 1: he was just sneering at us, like, you guys, horrible
Speaker 1: look on his face. I'm surprised you guys didn't get
Speaker 1: a lot of that last Well, it's good thing Jimmy
Speaker 1: wasn't there. He would have cut off food surface. That's right,
Speaker 1: that's right. I see they're quiet in the dark, no noise. Okay,
Speaker 1: So where do we start at the bottom there? That's
Speaker 1: that's where everyone seems to be at this point. Same old,
Speaker 1: same old, right, it can't be consistent. Um, Look, I thought,
Speaker 1: I thought the Eagles, and this is what I wrote
Speaker 1: in my column. They basically made two bets. The first
Speaker 1: bet was the Cowboys can't cover tight ends in running
Speaker 1: backs in the passing game, and the Cowboys showed that
Speaker 1: in six of the last seven games. They could not
Speaker 1: covered tight ends in running backs. They were without their
Speaker 1: top three wide receivers, and they basically ran twenty two
Speaker 1: personnel the whole game, two tight uh, two tight, two
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Basically we had one back sorry uh and
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys had no answer for it whatsoever. The
Speaker 1: tight ends and running backs ended up catching uh twenty
Speaker 1: four passes for two hundred and three yards in a touchdown,
Speaker 1: which is exactly what the Eagles have been doing. They
Speaker 1: did it anyway, that right, right, that's what they've been receivers.
Speaker 1: They they've had to do that secret. It was the
Speaker 1: Minnesota template. We've seen it ever since the Minnesota game
Speaker 1: with Dalvin Cook. If you've got running backs that can
Speaker 1: do that, run those kind of routes and be effective
Speaker 1: in space, they're gonna challenge you. And Mickey's right, what
Speaker 1: would Sanders have seven catches in the game something like that?
Speaker 1: He had six six five catches for seventy seven yards
Speaker 1: and ever since talked about it too that you know,
Speaker 1: the offensive lines have been able to get out on
Speaker 1: the second level and they've also been challenging the Cowboys
Speaker 1: linebackers in space. And it's it's paid off for him.
Speaker 1: But you look at the scoreboard at the end of
Speaker 1: the game and he says seventeen points huh ought to
Speaker 1: be enough to win a football game. And for me,
Speaker 1: Mickey's exactly right. But I want to get mixed. Second bet.
Speaker 1: What was the second Did you have a second? Second bet?
Speaker 1: Was by no circumstance. Was Ezekiel Elliott gonna beat us?
Speaker 1: So they basically put eight guys in the box, almost
Speaker 1: exclusively if the Cowboys had three wide receivers out there.
Speaker 1: They basically said, okay, fine, we're manning everybody with a
Speaker 1: single safety high and we're gonna bet that you can't
Speaker 1: beat us. Dak Prescott, they thought, you know, and maybe
Speaker 1: they were right, Okay, he was throwing the ball. Fine,
Speaker 1: It didn't look like he was in any discomfort. He
Speaker 1: hadn't practice all week, and it looked like he was
Speaker 1: uncomfortable in the pockets seeing things, and he was uncaref
Speaker 1: characteristically inaccurate. They had open receivers down the field and
Speaker 1: he missed Tis time and time again. Tavon Austin's got
Speaker 1: to walk in touchdown right overthrows him by five yards.
Speaker 1: Some of his other passes were just so inaccurate. And
Speaker 1: I don't think it had anything to do with the shoulder.
Speaker 1: I don't either, I just think and he finally kind
Speaker 1: of admitted it he goes. I don't know. It might
Speaker 1: have been not having any reps or something. He kind
Speaker 1: of alluded to it. I think he's too old for that.
Speaker 1: It should have been down. He's a veteran. They made
Speaker 1: the bet that he wasn't going to beat him in
Speaker 1: the passing game, and even on the last play, the
Speaker 1: fourth down play, if he doesn't underthrow Gallop, it's a touchdown.
Speaker 1: But he underthrew it enough where Avonte Maddox was able
Speaker 1: to come up and knock it away. Not that that one.
Speaker 1: That's the only point I disagree with. I thought there
Speaker 1: was a chance for Gallup to go up and get it.
Speaker 1: But the guy held his arm down right, he got
Speaker 1: hooked and so he I think Gallup would have I
Speaker 1: think he would have gone up and got that ball.
Speaker 1: See he when he did his postgame interview you, he
Speaker 1: said I made a mistake. He said, instead of going
Speaker 1: straight up to catch the ball, he goes, I faded
Speaker 1: and I was going backwards trying to catch it, and
Speaker 1: I allowed him to get into me. He goes, and
Speaker 1: he stopped and going up. Yes, I could, like a
Speaker 1: defensive back, you stop him up. This is the highest point.
Speaker 1: This is not yeah, but I don't think he had
Speaker 1: a chance to even get to his highest point because
Speaker 1: his arm was being held down. And they know they
Speaker 1: could have called it. They could have called it. They
Speaker 1: actually could have called it. They would have been a
Speaker 1: good call. But to me, as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 1: bass gotta be a little bit higher, It's gotta be
Speaker 1: a little bit better thrown. Uh. The entire game was
Speaker 1: all about that, can you make this play? No? I cannot.
Speaker 1: He had gallop on a crossing route earlier in the
Speaker 1: game where a little behind him. Four passes that was crucial,
Speaker 1: and then drop in six drops by the way. See
Speaker 1: that's the other thing. That's the other thing. Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if the shoulder bothered him. He said it didn't.
Speaker 1: I think he did. Yeah, he won't. He won't, And
Speaker 1: and look he didn't use it as an excuse. And
Speaker 1: when you're running, scrambling and falling right on top of it,
Speaker 1: you know, I think he had to go for it,
Speaker 1: didn't He first drive, he scrambled and uh, he had
Speaker 1: to put his shoulder. Yeah, clearly he wasn't afraid to
Speaker 1: do that. Um, but Mickey's right, I do think there
Speaker 1: was some kind of Russ factor there wasn't seeing things.
Speaker 1: And he does lead the league in explosive pass plays
Speaker 1: over twenty years. He can make those throws. He didn't
Speaker 1: make them yesterday. But to me, and I'm sorry, you
Speaker 1: had two bets there. That the three things that stand
Speaker 1: out to me when they have not won games this year.
Speaker 1: They've been bad in the red zone. They were owing
Speaker 1: two in the red zone again yesterday. Mickey mentioned not
Speaker 1: running the ball. Well, I still thought there were opportunities
Speaker 1: for Zeke to run and five carries in the first
Speaker 1: half surprised me. It just it just surprised me because
Speaker 1: they went out in the third quarter and had some
Speaker 1: success running the football and I thought we were coming
Speaker 1: back and got him abushed and then you saw the
Speaker 1: play action working in and I was like, Okay, they're
Speaker 1: getting back some of the some of the rhythm. Fum
Speaker 1: didn't we That was turning point of the game right there,
Speaker 1: and that was going to be the key. That could
Speaker 1: have been the key turnaround in the game because you
Speaker 1: had the last possession in the first half and you
Speaker 1: milked it for a field goal and guy, God bless
Speaker 1: Kai four bath right, he kept it, he kept respectable.
Speaker 1: He is cold And then the first possession of the
Speaker 1: second half. You drive down, you're at the what were
Speaker 1: they like, the twenty three yard line. They throw the
Speaker 1: little pitch out to a Pollard and he's fighting for
Speaker 1: one yard and he gets stripped as he's going down. Now,
Speaker 1: Cox makes a good play because it didn't get blocked.
Speaker 1: You know what, I went back and looked at Did
Speaker 1: you go back and look at that. There's not a
Speaker 1: single player they got a block on the nobody. No,
Speaker 1: they're not. Not a single player blocked the man on
Speaker 1: that play. Now, Garrett's coach, Garrett said this morning that
Speaker 1: z got banged up. Well, he plays earlier, that's why
Speaker 1: he was. I talked about that during the game. So
Speaker 1: it's a shame he's not in there. But the pitch
Speaker 1: back in that situation, you need a yard. I mean,
Speaker 1: that wouldn't have been a call for Zeke anyway. Probably. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like we'll surprise him. We'll fake the handoff going
Speaker 1: the other way and pitch it out to the left
Speaker 1: and they didn't fall for it. It was yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it does. But like you said, you gotta block somebody.
Speaker 1: You have to block someone. I mean, because from what
Speaker 1: I saw, it's one of those players where Okay, that's
Speaker 1: a great call if it works. Yeah. So and that's
Speaker 1: a great call if it's executed. Well, it's not. It
Speaker 1: doesn't just work magically. It has to be executed well.
Speaker 1: And we didn't execute it well. So therefore it makes
Speaker 1: a coach and the whole team looked degraded. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: what kind of play call was that? And that was
Speaker 1: a that was thirteen personnel. It was three tight ends
Speaker 1: that were lined up to the right, so it was
Speaker 1: a pitch an option to the left side, the week
Speaker 1: side and fifty Duke Riley, who is only in the
Speaker 1: game on defense when it's a three tight so it's
Speaker 1: like the only play of the game he's out on defense.
Speaker 1: He set the edge, he got out beyond a block
Speaker 1: by Tyrons, attempted block by Tyron and set the edge,
Speaker 1: and and it was everybody else was there to And
Speaker 1: that's strong side about offensive line. So yeah, you would
Speaker 1: think that they'd be a little bit more. Well, we
Speaker 1: asked for polo and we got them. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: I mean I was saying in the press box and
Speaker 1: I know it was on Twitter. Two where is he?
Speaker 1: You know, one hundred and thirty one yards the week before.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. So now everyone complains with that
Speaker 1: Zeke Wedden in the age and yeah, back, not everyone,
Speaker 1: the same people. They're saying, how come Pauler doesn't get
Speaker 1: more touches than Wedden Zeke in the game now? And
Speaker 1: that was the turning point in the game. And then
Speaker 1: the third thing for me is takeaways. They just ball
Speaker 1: hits Xavier Woods right in the hands, could be a
Speaker 1: pick six, or at least you finally give your offense
Speaker 1: some you know, some prime real estate there. Those are
Speaker 1: the things that are that's the recipe for the losses
Speaker 1: they've had this year. That sounds all of this sounds
Speaker 1: very familiar days of which which usually those are the
Speaker 1: things in a playoff game game, and this was a playoff.
Speaker 1: It was like all your little hiccups during the season,
Speaker 1: they show up when you start playing better teams. It's
Speaker 1: like they expose the things that you should. So it
Speaker 1: shows that as a team with steal, that team that
Speaker 1: had the three game losing streak. Yeah, really that's the
Speaker 1: way they show. This shows that the Rams game was
Speaker 1: an exception to the rule. To me, that's what it
Speaker 1: seems like. You know, this this is us And there's
Speaker 1: only been really two exceptions to the rule. Two exceptions
Speaker 1: the Rams game and the first philadelph first Philadelphia game.
Speaker 1: And that's what drives fans crazy is that you watch
Speaker 1: them play like that and you say, why can't they
Speaker 1: do that all the time? Because they're capable of it.
Speaker 1: But at some point, when you're seven and eight, you're
Speaker 1: not capable of doing it consistently. That's just who you are.
Speaker 1: And Zeke said something interesting after the game. He was asked,
Speaker 1: I think about losing to a team you're better than
Speaker 1: when when you're expected to be in the super Bowl
Speaker 1: and people expect that from and Zeke flat out said,
Speaker 1: how can you say that they won the game? They
Speaker 1: played better when it counted, Like, I think we're better,
Speaker 1: but we didn't show it, and we haven't showed it
Speaker 1: really all year. Yea, on a consistent basis, we are.
Speaker 1: We are who everyone said we'd beat. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's where we are right now. Even if we win
Speaker 1: next week, you know, which I look forward to us doing,
Speaker 1: we'll probably come out and do all the things that
Speaker 1: we couldn't do in Philly and all the other games
Speaker 1: that we thought we could do it and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna back into possibly possibly back into the playoffs. And
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even feel comfortable making it. We don't deserve
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And of course if you make it, you
Speaker 1: make it. Like you said, you know, how can you
Speaker 1: say that, you know, if we keep getting beat how
Speaker 1: can you say they would deserve to be in the
Speaker 1: playoffs the way they've time and time again underachieved that.
Speaker 1: That's to me, that's the question. How do you feel
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs if you're still the same team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially if you back in, because even if you take
Speaker 1: care you have it, you got to sit there and say, oh,
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback Daniel Jones, can you help us out here
Speaker 1: a little bit? Because we need you to beat the Eagles,
Speaker 1: which is not out of the question. It's not out
Speaker 1: of the question. They've been sneaking by all the what
Speaker 1: they've won now what well? They got to play in
Speaker 1: New York. They got a garbage touched down at the
Speaker 1: end against Washington, Otherwise they would have won that by
Speaker 1: three points. They beat Cowboys by eight, and they had
Speaker 1: to go into overtime to beat the Giants the week before.
Speaker 1: My biggest fear is that we will make it. That's
Speaker 1: my biggest fear that Okay, here we are glooming Dome.
Speaker 1: Then then you're gonna play Then Philly will go in
Speaker 1: after all this emotion and probably going in later. So
Speaker 1: you play a team that lost Arizona yesterday, yeah, or
Speaker 1: a team that lost to the Atlanta last week at home.
Speaker 1: Go figure out a team were lost Arizona at home yesterday,
Speaker 1: or a team that lost because both teams to achieve.
Speaker 1: That's what's crazy about this. If you back into this thing,
Speaker 1: you have a home playoff game against team that haven't
Speaker 1: necessarily played a yeah. I mean, the division round is
Speaker 1: not out of the possibility. But that's what's so insane
Speaker 1: about this this season. I can't think of a season
Speaker 1: like this one where I'd be embarrassed to win. I
Speaker 1: would I'd be embarrassed to win the first playoff game.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just you take your hat home,
Speaker 1: you know, I'd be parading up and down the street.
Speaker 1: But now it's it would just add to the confusion
Speaker 1: of what do we do next year? I mean, we'll
Speaker 1: always we have to look forward to next year. You
Speaker 1: got two games, hopefully two games left. What do you
Speaker 1: do that we're gonna go through this again the entire
Speaker 1: off season. Okay, I mean probably Dak would get his money,
Speaker 1: you know exactly, that would be comfortable there. What do
Speaker 1: we go through this again? Huh? I just what this
Speaker 1: to me? What Philadelphia did without three starting wide receivers
Speaker 1: in there and then managed to get enough points and
Speaker 1: by the way, zach Ertz got hurt too. By the
Speaker 1: way it came back in the kid missed like a
Speaker 1: dozen snaps. They end up they hunt up with four
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty one yards. Think about what they would
Speaker 1: have been saying if they lost the game, because four
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty one yards and translated to seventeen point
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five in the first quarter something
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, where And they were thrown to their
Speaker 1: wide receivers in the first quarter. J j R. Segoeside
Speaker 1: hadn't kind of passed in a month, and he catches
Speaker 1: two in the first drive of the game and the
Speaker 1: rest of the day, the like we were cold, what
Speaker 1: we looked like, we were stiff, and they just looked
Speaker 1: like they were ready. They looked like they've been sitting
Speaker 1: in front of a fireplace. We looked like we've been
Speaker 1: sitting outside in the cold, you know. And it's the
Speaker 1: weird thing is but when when they out fox you
Speaker 1: and things they did, it looks like, wow, we came
Speaker 1: out with no energy. Well then how do you get
Speaker 1: energy after you get down ten to nothing? You know,
Speaker 1: I don't get that. They just had an offensive plan
Speaker 1: or early the Cowboys couldn't handle and then they didn't
Speaker 1: handle it the rest of the way. When they said, okay,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna throw the tight ends when it was
Speaker 1: what was its second it was its second in goal
Speaker 1: on the touchdown pass to god Her, I sat there
Speaker 1: and I said, this was going to the tight end. Well,
Speaker 1: how many times was there's that little cushion in the
Speaker 1: middle underneath the middle of the field where they're giving
Speaker 1: him eight yards. That's the same play. Score. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: they score, we give up that same play. Every time
Speaker 1: you influence the linebacker, you've got the safety over the top.
Speaker 1: All they do is bring both guys inside running back
Speaker 1: here linebacker has to make a decision. They influence him
Speaker 1: up short and then there's that skinny post by the sea.
Speaker 1: Can't the linebacker can't drop fast enough. And he threw
Speaker 1: and it was a perfect pass. The perfect should be good.
Speaker 1: And I told you guys, he was gonna be good.
Speaker 1: He was. He's been good for three weeks. He was
Speaker 1: good in the first game against this team too. What
Speaker 1: was thirty one forty? It was pretty impressive. About the
Speaker 1: other about God or no, no, yeah, no, he's been.
Speaker 1: He's You're right, he's been clutched for them. He's been.
Speaker 1: And it worried that game. Worried me because they and
Speaker 1: that we will be give because they they're not playing
Speaker 1: with house money, but they're down and wounded, and they
Speaker 1: found a way coach credit coaching. They found a way
Speaker 1: to do successful things with what they had and it
Speaker 1: was ugly and they still did it. It was still successful.
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Speaker 1: um specifics yesterday a thing, any specific plays anything. Yep.
Speaker 1: Rob's just nodding his head in agreement. Stands out that
Speaker 1: you're ready to well guess guess, yeah, guess what I'm
Speaker 1: wondering about. Okay, that last last play, last play offense. Okay,
Speaker 1: Mariy Cooper and Mark Cooper wasn't in the game for
Speaker 1: certain plays down the stretch. But you don't have a
Speaker 1: Mariy Cooper or Randall Cobb in the game with essentially
Speaker 1: your season on the line, thoughts. I mean, anybody's surprised
Speaker 1: by that Cooper played forty six snaps in the game
Speaker 1: out of sixty two sixty two. Ye, Well, the body
Speaker 1: length was bad, first of all. I mean, it just
Speaker 1: seemed like he didn't want to be out there initially.
Speaker 1: Of course, passes could have been better, by the way,
Speaker 1: and just and you're making a great point, but I
Speaker 1: also want to point out Zeke played sixty out of
Speaker 1: sixty two plays. The only place he was not on
Speaker 1: the field. Were those two back to back rungs by
Speaker 1: Pollard For people talking about Zeke's got to be in
Speaker 1: the game, Well, he was out there for sixty out
Speaker 1: of sixty two places and he was making a difference. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so ahead thought we were coming back by the way
Speaker 1: he tapped out on that too, right, he did right,
Speaker 1: He took himself out right, he got banged up right,
Speaker 1: and he had very Yeah, he had six catches for
Speaker 1: about fifty yards on that. We were doing everything we
Speaker 1: wanted to do with Zeke. Yes, I thought that was
Speaker 1: very doing the comeback with throwing to him. We're running
Speaker 1: the ball once again. I thought the offensive line played
Speaker 1: well except for a few plays which were obviously very
Speaker 1: crucial to us. But go ahead on him all you know.
Speaker 1: It ain't good on Fox by the way of showing
Speaker 1: when he hit his head on the ground, somebody, I
Speaker 1: don't know who would have seen that. That big that
Speaker 1: was You could see if you could see his eyes,
Speaker 1: but you'll see he was dazed a little. But I
Speaker 1: get why people thought maybe he tapped out because he
Speaker 1: had six touches already on that drive. Took a little
Speaker 1: bit of a break. But third and one with the
Speaker 1: wide receivers at the time, because as you can see
Speaker 1: doing the game, everyone was just blown you Philly defense,
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense. I'm thinking, well, the only reason Cooper's not
Speaker 1: in him because he's been running routed up the route,
Speaker 1: off the route, and I'm thinking, okay, just just bad timing.
Speaker 1: But now COB's not in as well, which is another guy. Well,
Speaker 1: we finally realize, Okay, Coop's kind of whatever issues he's having,
Speaker 1: We're going to Cob. Cop catches a few and cops like,
Speaker 1: come to me, he got him down in that situation.
Speaker 1: Come to me. I'm ready. I'm the guy now, Okay,
Speaker 1: nobody's working in That's what you brought me here for.
Speaker 1: So the play they called, basically it was two tight ends.
Speaker 1: They had two tight ends and two receivers on that
Speaker 1: fourth down play. And I think what they were trying
Speaker 1: to do with Tavon on the outside with his speed,
Speaker 1: maybe they thought, Okay, the safety's gonna shade over three
Speaker 1: and the desks and the tight ends took up the
Speaker 1: middle of the field, so they got gallop one. I mean,
Speaker 1: the play worked. He didn't throw the pass, and that's
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what Jason spoke to on the
Speaker 1: fan this morning, was that the twelve personnel and they
Speaker 1: they had an opportunity there. But aren't you surprised though
Speaker 1: that in that situation with the game on the line,
Speaker 1: those guys, aren't you why Cooper to throw it or
Speaker 1: Cooper over there? But it wasn't like gall of acathing.
Speaker 1: That was advocate guys. I mean, we had Cooper in
Speaker 1: the game the whole time. They weren't successful, so then okay,
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, it said, well, he hasn't been
Speaker 1: playing with the crap all game anyway, so why not
Speaker 1: try somebody else? But then you say, well, Cob would
Speaker 1: have been in that game. That's what got me was
Speaker 1: that both of them are out of the game. Both
Speaker 1: of them again that very well, that's the player and
Speaker 1: why and all of a sudden get in touches? I
Speaker 1: mean nothing on table, But why, all of a sudden
Speaker 1: is he in this game in this crucial moment. He
Speaker 1: and Dak Except for last week when the guy fell down,
Speaker 1: he and Dak has never had a connection. My guess
Speaker 1: is because they saw they were getting so much single
Speaker 1: coverage that he was the one guy that could run
Speaker 1: by everybody, and they were hoping that's what was and
Speaker 1: it did right. You overthrew him by five yards. He
Speaker 1: was white. That's a walk in touchdown, right, So that
Speaker 1: was I think their gamble because they were getting so
Speaker 1: much man coverage and if you could you, I don't
Speaker 1: you know, you can't see it on TV. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: the safety single safety high almost every free play, Jeffree
Speaker 1: play when you when you asked me what about the game,
Speaker 1: that was where I was headed. Uh, with cooping and
Speaker 1: and and Cobb not in the game. That didn't help.
Speaker 1: But no, this is Dacks to me, his worst game
Speaker 1: in over a year. I'm not sure he saw things
Speaker 1: well either well to that point, Um, and I texted
Speaker 1: you the video of the two plays bothered me. And
Speaker 1: I'll go to the offensive play first. It was the
Speaker 1: third and four in the fourth quarter, in the deep
Speaker 1: ball to gallop. In that situation, you're at the let
Speaker 1: me make sure I've got it here, you're at the
Speaker 1: thirty one yard line. And on the next okay, they
Speaker 1: went in complete. It was forty nine yard field goal
Speaker 1: at four. We're back. You obviously you cannot take a
Speaker 1: sack in this situation because you've got the field goal. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're down seventeen six field goal made at seventeen nine.
Speaker 1: But on that play, there's basically go route to gallop. Okay,
Speaker 1: And if you go back and look at that play,
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb lines up on the slot on the left side,
Speaker 1: Whitten his inside him, he comes off basically is like
Speaker 1: a rub By Whitten. No one's covering Cob on a
Speaker 1: crossing route across the middle. Zeke lined up in the
Speaker 1: slot on the right side. Zeke runs across the opposite
Speaker 1: direction and Randall Cobb comes wide open. If if Dak
Speaker 1: just holds it for a split second longer, Cob is
Speaker 1: wide open. And he probably never was. He he was going,
Speaker 1: he knew where he was going. Yeah, and again in
Speaker 1: his defense, you can't take a sack, okay, I understand that,
Speaker 1: And but he did have time and in hindsight, he
Speaker 1: did have time to get it to Cobb if he
Speaker 1: was looking for Cobb. And I think that's what the
Speaker 1: play was designed for when you look at the routes,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was designed to get in his head.
Speaker 1: It was he was immediately supposed. He never even hesitated, right,
Speaker 1: And see it wasn't just a shoulder doesn't account for
Speaker 1: your pocket presence. I don't think he had good pocket
Speaker 1: presence at all. He seemed extremely uncomfortable. He seemed hesitant
Speaker 1: even when it was collapsing. It's like, well, what do
Speaker 1: I do? Now? Do I do? I'm gonna just stand here.
Speaker 1: Every decision that he tried to make, it seemed to
Speaker 1: be a beat too late. That's why. That's kind of
Speaker 1: what we talked about. But a lot of this that's
Speaker 1: when they lose. That's how they played. They're always a
Speaker 1: beat too late. They weren't beaten man coverage consistently either.
Speaker 1: That those guys that Jay was locked on those guys.
Speaker 1: He was emphatic about that. Jason app not emphatic, but
Speaker 1: made clear about trying to stop the run game, and
Speaker 1: we weren't efficient enough taking advantage. They were daring us
Speaker 1: to beat them in the passing game down there were
Speaker 1: times when they had the overall view. Nobody was over no. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they were armed them and he's got and
Speaker 1: the wide receivers are looking like, okay, I'm good, I
Speaker 1: ran my route. You saw no scramble moves. You just
Speaker 1: saw them standing there after the initial move. I mean,
Speaker 1: who was the leading receiver? Um Zeke seven catch catch
Speaker 1: seven catches ninety yard yeah, yeah, five, and he had
Speaker 1: another one right he lost it. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's the drop. This one is clearly a Drop's best pass.
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, tip for Tich, Now you
Speaker 1: dropped my pass. It's like it's going back and forth
Speaker 1: with his receivers. Coop drops one, he throws him, and
Speaker 1: then then he throws the crapping them clapping the coop.
Speaker 1: Gallop catches one, drops one, and then he come on.
Speaker 1: It's just there's three passes there could have. Each one
Speaker 1: of them is one the Tavon, the last one to
Speaker 1: Gallop and that one to go. Those games like we played,
Speaker 1: you could all pick out that made the difference. It's
Speaker 1: not execution. You want to blame it on coaching. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: the other play you asked about other plays, the Big
Speaker 1: Past Award, they got him their last touchdown. They blew
Speaker 1: the coverage right. Somehow some Wayne is looking for help.
Speaker 1: They put they put the two wide receivers to the
Speaker 1: right and they lined Malcolm Smith in the slot on
Speaker 1: the white. Now, they can't expect him to run the
Speaker 1: entire field with that wide receipt the way he played
Speaker 1: like that, he settled down. So I'm not sure. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what should have happened. Because Jordan Lewis was
Speaker 1: the corner over there. He locked on, He locked on, locked,
Speaker 1: and if he didn't lock on, that guy's wide open.
Speaker 1: By the way, it didn't so in the safety was
Speaker 1: single high and he they had the other safety Heath
Speaker 1: they were on the other side. I think Ernst was
Speaker 1: over there. Uh, and they ended up doubling Earnest and
Speaker 1: with Iron Jones, and it's like, okay, well, what was
Speaker 1: this guy supposed to do? You couldn't expect him to
Speaker 1: run forty yards down field with the wide receiver, but
Speaker 1: the safety was so high he couldn't get there. How
Speaker 1: much respect do we have for we put Biling Jones
Speaker 1: on it? Oh? Yeah, yeah, put zones and even so
Speaker 1: it was that was twelve personnel. Yeah, they had they
Speaker 1: put their two wide receivers on the right side. And
Speaker 1: when we're able to scheme it to where the linebacker
Speaker 1: then was covering a wide receiver, that means that it
Speaker 1: is a zone. Got to be zone. It's got to
Speaker 1: be zone coverage because why the cornerback is not coming
Speaker 1: over exactly with the two wide receivers right, So, so
Speaker 1: why tell me why? And I see this all the
Speaker 1: time and I never understand it. And somebody explained to me,
Speaker 1: when you put two wide receivers to one side, what's
Speaker 1: the other corner doing on the other side doing nothing?
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be in the slot coming over if
Speaker 1: it's if it's man to man, if it's he stays over,
Speaker 1: he stays up. But why why leave him over there?
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you put him on the in the slot
Speaker 1: because they're not expect that right now? The depending on
Speaker 1: the yard and uh, you know, the down in the yardage.
Speaker 1: If they're playing run, then I still have to have
Speaker 1: my safety over here in run situation because you asked
Speaker 1: you asked about Okay, Jordan Lewis locked on the wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I don't remember which wide receiver was. It went across
Speaker 1: the middle. Well, that safety would have taken him. But
Speaker 1: but Jordan Lewis took the took the receiver. Defensive personnel.
Speaker 1: Was it regular? It was regular because Malcolm Smith was
Speaker 1: on the field. Everybody standard. Yeah, because it was Malcolm
Speaker 1: didn't That's who was on the field. If if the zone,
Speaker 1: if it's his zone call, and the cornerback stays over,
Speaker 1: then he's the force on the on the week side,
Speaker 1: he's the force on the tighten side. And if it's
Speaker 1: his zone, then obviously he's gonna be the deep third,
Speaker 1: or depending on what the call is, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: deep third. That's a flat depending on what the call is.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they should have if the if
Speaker 1: the cornerback didn't come over, then there's no reason for
Speaker 1: the other corner to lock on to the wide receiver
Speaker 1: outside he was in that post, rat would be the
Speaker 1: safety woods jacko into the stay unless he goes shallow
Speaker 1: across right sat, then you want to hit the post
Speaker 1: with somebody else coming down the other side. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: the running back Jalen Smith took the running back lead. Yeah.
Speaker 1: At the last minute, Lee's yelling at her get over there. General. Okay.
Speaker 1: By the way, he had seventeen seventeen tackles John Lee. Yea,
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Speaker 1: specific play that I want to get to. Oh, I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: over there. All right. The other play that I want
Speaker 1: to get to is the play on the goal line
Speaker 1: where Sanders scored the touchdown to give the Eagles the
Speaker 1: seventeen touched after the play we just talked about, right
Speaker 1: after the right after after the ward play. Okay, so
Speaker 1: they got down third and goal at the one. Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith on the previous play made a great stop along
Speaker 1: with Xavier Woods on Sanders, okay, to stop him at
Speaker 1: the one. Now forced a third and goal at the one.
Speaker 1: All right. Eagles had two tight ends on the field
Speaker 1: for almost all day long, right, Mickey, Yes, they did
Speaker 1: not have two tight ends on the field for this play.
Speaker 1: They went three wide and the Cowboys went Nickel exactly
Speaker 1: good on the goal line and he went right up
Speaker 1: the gut and they went right up to gut and
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, your middle linebacker is lined up at right
Speaker 1: defensive end, a wide nine right defensive end. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: that they were concerned with the well Shawn Lee had
Speaker 1: the tight end. Shaun Lee's lined up to the right side.
Speaker 1: He's got Goddard. Okay, but I'm thinking they were concerned
Speaker 1: about the quarterback run on that, and so that's that's
Speaker 1: the only reason that I can think that they would
Speaker 1: have Smith lined up as a defensive Did you think
Speaker 1: what did you think they thought he was going to
Speaker 1: run exactly the middle? Still? Well, and that's the other thing.
Speaker 1: When the when the running back, Okay, when you're running
Speaker 1: that read option as a quarterback with a running back
Speaker 1: lined up on the right side, the quarterbacks not running
Speaker 1: to the left side where Jalen Smith is lined up.
Speaker 1: If he's gonna keep he's gonna read it, he's gonna
Speaker 1: put the ball in the belly on the back, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna take off on the right side where DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence was. I have no idea what they were doing
Speaker 1: defensively on that. And on the middle of the crushed
Speaker 1: they crushed the middle the nose Covington got bl right
Speaker 1: out it. Well, it almost seems as if he stepped
Speaker 1: that way initially. Yeah, he held out. Yeah, And as
Speaker 1: if someone as we's called a tango, someone would tango
Speaker 1: into the hole. I saw Sean Lee looking there that beat.
Speaker 1: He had got it, and you can't have got it
Speaker 1: on the running play, right, you gotta have got it
Speaker 1: on the passing play, right on the running play. That's
Speaker 1: his Well, I don't know if that's here. I just
Speaker 1: think when I saw that, that's all I could say. Well,
Speaker 1: number one, I just don't see how you can you
Speaker 1: can go nickel on the one yard line in a
Speaker 1: goal line situation like that, have a safety, take that wide,
Speaker 1: receive that extra wide receiver. You can. He gotta have
Speaker 1: the middle line nickel and still have a middle linebacker
Speaker 1: in right. You can, yeah, because all you gotta do
Speaker 1: is Jalen instead of lining up at right defensive end,
Speaker 1: line up as a middle linebacker. Now you have. I
Speaker 1: thought they were going to call a quarterback run. That's
Speaker 1: what I was waiting for. And they had that defended. Well,
Speaker 1: they had that defended because the defensive line there were
Speaker 1: four defensive linemen and then Jalen was the fifth. They
Speaker 1: were shaded to that side where the to the running
Speaker 1: back side. Okay, and so if if Wentz was gonna
Speaker 1: keep they had the manpower over they had. They were
Speaker 1: not outnumbered right defensively, we were not outnumbering in that
Speaker 1: if he's going right, which he has really no choice
Speaker 1: because the back is the exactly so he has to
Speaker 1: fake it right, right, right. So but I just don't
Speaker 1: understand why you don't have a middle linebacker in there
Speaker 1: on on a goal line, third and goal. That's good, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I would think that Wentz saw
Speaker 1: the alignment and he may have had a pass play
Speaker 1: called or something and he saw the alignment and said, no,
Speaker 1: we're giving it to you right up the gut. I
Speaker 1: saw Cheeto was lined up out wide in the corner, right.
Speaker 1: I thought that maybe they were gonna go jump all
Speaker 1: because they were going after Cheeto in the game, right,
Speaker 1: But you're right. The middle was why I won't ask
Speaker 1: him enough that they yanked him and put Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: out there in the base defense. And that was why
Speaker 1: I was. I was gonna why was Jordan Lewis in
Speaker 1: the game. That was gonna be my question when we
Speaker 1: talked about the wheel route. So that was not Nickel personnel.
Speaker 1: That's why I asked you. What was Jordan was in?
Speaker 1: After second maybe the second or third possession, he got
Speaker 1: benched and he would only come in on Nickel, so
Speaker 1: he did continue to play. So it's not the injury. Then, No, no,
Speaker 1: come in on Nickel and he went back to his
Speaker 1: left corner. So I want, I want, I want the
Speaker 1: guy that tweeted it out a long time ago about
Speaker 1: me picking on Jordan Lewis that when I said sometimes
Speaker 1: he gets lost, and he tweeted, he tweeted me and
Speaker 1: included Jordan Lewis on it. We'll go ahead and tweet again,
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