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Speaker 2: you're having a great day. At an unbelievable weekend, right,

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Speaker 2: big time college football, big time pro football, got a

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Speaker 2: lot to talk about. We had a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know because the sports counter

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Speaker 2: is so weird, right, like mondays are really hard to

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Speaker 2: talk about college football. We're gonna start by talking about

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Speaker 2: college football, but we're not going to talk about the

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Speaker 2: fact that Ohio States kicker missed like a two yard

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Speaker 2: field goal to tie the Big Ten Championship game, which

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Speaker 2: is a stunner. And Indiana and Kurt Signetty literally called

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Speaker 2: his shot, called his shot two years ago when he

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Speaker 2: got and he's done it. It's remarkable. And yet I

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Speaker 2: and Indiana is the number one seed. It's not really

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Speaker 2: where we want to go with it, but I just

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Speaker 2: I want you to take a snapshot. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if there is any more kind of bizarro sign of

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Speaker 2: the times and how college sports is evolving in that

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Speaker 2: Indiana when we finally have a college football tournament, if

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Speaker 2: you will, is the number one seed. And they played

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Speaker 2: Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship, they played at Oregon,

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Speaker 2: won both those games. They're undefeated, right. They did beat

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Speaker 2: Penn State. Granted it was after Penn State lost its quarterback,

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Speaker 2: lost its coach, but whatever, they won those games. Indiana

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Speaker 2: is the number one team in the country and the

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Speaker 2: regular season is complete. That is if that is crazy

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Speaker 2: crazy crazy, but it's not the topic of the day.

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Speaker 2: It remains in the state of Indiana. It's the fact

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Speaker 2: that No. Tra Dame is not in the College Wall Playoff,

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Speaker 2: is not in the College Wall Playoff. Why is that? Well?

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Speaker 2: I mean, do we really need to to put it

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Speaker 2: out there? The college Football Playoff, which of course was

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Speaker 2: announced yesterday, and the College Wall Playoff bracket is out

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Speaker 2: and James Madison is in, James Madison is in, Tulane

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Speaker 2: is in. Both of them are losing their coaches. Here's

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Speaker 2: where we as media, we just wear the worst, right

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Speaker 2: like James Madison and or as fans, you're the worst.

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Speaker 2: James Madison and Tulane they've both lost their coaches and

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Speaker 2: yet they're still playing in the College Wall Playoff. And

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Speaker 2: it wasn't made to a big deal that their coaches

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Speaker 2: are coaching their team in the College Wall Playoff. But

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Speaker 2: Ole Miss it was made into a massive, massive deal.

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Speaker 2: And Lane Kiffin can't coach, but his head, his offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 2: Charlie Weis Junior, can coach. But we're here. Don't kid yourself.

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Speaker 2: We're here because we're trying to be fair in a

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Speaker 2: completely unfair sport. That's what we're trying to do. We're

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Speaker 2: trying to be fair in an unfair sport. That's the

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Speaker 2: reality of it. The reality. It's not to say that

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Speaker 2: is literally point zero zero zero zero zero zero zero

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Speaker 2: disagrees with me. And they're not built for that. They

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Speaker 2: just are not. Because the attrition of every game in

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Speaker 2: by automatic qualifiers from the we call it the Power five,

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Speaker 2: not even really the Power four. It's really the power too,

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Speaker 2: not good. They're just not one of the twelve best

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Speaker 2: So when you're trying to play to different masters, if

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Speaker 2: But we got to get these teams in that we

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Speaker 2: out here. Talk about Notre Dame because you went there.

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Speaker 2: have no I do have a love for DOTIM. I

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Speaker 2: real world of college athletics that I'm gonna tell you.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame has said and done everything exactly the way

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Speaker 2: I would do it. They have every right to be

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Speaker 2: pested at the ACC, every right, every single right to

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Speaker 2: not playing a bowl game because they're saving us all

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Speaker 2: from inevitably saying, well, Notre Dame, should they have been in?

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Speaker 2: Should they not be in? Let's see how they play

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Speaker 2: in the bowl game. When half the guys don't play.

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Speaker 2: It's like the Florida State thing. Florida State should I

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Speaker 2: then half the guys don't play. Then they lose in

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Speaker 2: the ball game, and they're like, see, Florida State's a phony.

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Speaker 2: Like no, they I didn't think they were good enough,

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Speaker 2: And you're trying to develop your culture while having a

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Speaker 2: great trip. But the bowl games no longer mean anything,

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Speaker 2: and Notre Dame actually separated themselves as a serious college

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Speaker 2: football program. Hey, we're just in to win a championship.

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Speaker 2: We got to the finals last year. We lost two

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Speaker 2: close games. This year felt like we should have probably

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna fake it and go to a bowl

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Speaker 2: game when that's not what we're playing for and that's

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Speaker 2: not what anybody cares about anymore. And half the players

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Speaker 2: our season when half of our team is not gonna

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Speaker 2: play in a meaningless bowl game. And even if they

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame has had that a traumatic injury about a

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Speaker 2: decade ago in the Cotton Bowl. And then two I

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Speaker 2: So what are we doing? I don't know everything about

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Speaker 2: college athletics, even coaching in college athletics, but I do

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Speaker 2: know what Pete Bavaqua said is true, Like there's some

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Speaker 2: unwritten rules that everybody knows about conferences, Right, you can

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Speaker 2: criticize somebody within your own conference. Dan's a gigantic, big

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Speaker 2: some level he's an Ohio State fan. Right as an

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Speaker 2: that kind of takes shots at the credibility of the program.

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Speaker 2: It's just not done. Just not done. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to criticize any other program or what they do,

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Speaker 2: how they do because they're in our league. That's your conference, brethren.

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Speaker 2: Here's Peter Vaka. Earlier today he was on with Dan Patrick.

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Speaker 3: We're frustrated with the process, not the teams. They're all

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Speaker 3: great teams, and it's a bunch of teams. BYU has

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Speaker 3: all have great arguments. It's the process that bothers us.

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Speaker 4: Well, those ranking shows bother me, Pete, because well they.

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Speaker 3: Bothered me too. Because you know, if we just said, well,

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Speaker 3: we're in, We're in. Take care of business, take care

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Speaker 3: I get it, But these ranking shows, as I said yesterday,

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Speaker 3: And then, like I said, it just felt in that

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Speaker 2: I will point out that while I believe he's right,

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Speaker 2: don't think that he manages Notre Dame's social media, Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame on Saturday, when the Big twelve championship game was

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame's social media sites. Okay, now that doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: they don't have to. It's they're Catholic. They don't have

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Speaker 2: little gamesmanship. We're cheering for, you know, we're cheering for

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech because if Texas Tech wins, we feel like

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Speaker 2: we're in, which is what most people thought. Only it

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Speaker 2: didn't happen that way. So there is a slight lack

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Speaker 2: Now but now BYU's not a conference brethren, not a

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Speaker 2: and so maybe that goes out the window. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: What I do know is he's right, the ACC you

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Speaker 2: can't do it the overall overwhelming support of well they're

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Speaker 2: Miami's good enough, it doesn't have to be Miami versus

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame. I would also point out that the constant

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Speaker 6: hasn't been as strong, especially on third downs and not

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Speaker 6: getting off the field as much as they used to.

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Speaker 6: But again, I don't see this as a Mahome prom

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Speaker 6: but this is probably have to be a reset. You know,

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Speaker 6: this is a lot of years that they've been picking

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Speaker 6: very low in the draft and making a run every

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Speaker 6: year and bringing in some free agencies and trades for

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Speaker 6: more on short term basis. But this may be a

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Speaker 6: little bit of a reset this year to get a

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Speaker 6: little bit younger on the defensive front, and you know,

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Speaker 6: just really start retool that offensive line, especially the tackle positions,

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Speaker 6: to get home a little bit more time.

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Speaker 2: Stuck out leap show here on Fox Sports, trader Tom

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Speaker 2: Telesco is our guest. You are uniquely qualified for these

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Speaker 2: next couple questions, right because you you very much lived this.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the Indianapolis Colts. They they lost Daniel

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Speaker 2: Jones for the year with I don't know, has it

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Speaker 2: been reported as an achilles or we know it's it

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Speaker 2: looks like a torn achilles, right, Okay, so the torn achilles. Okay,

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Speaker 2: You've worked with Shane stich In before. You actually was

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Speaker 2: interim offensive coordinator for a year before he left and

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Speaker 2: went to went to Philly. Right, who do you? Who

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Speaker 2: do you? How does it work here? We are we're

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Speaker 2: a December eighth. You've been in a similar situation where

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Speaker 2: I gotta find a quarterback here? You know who's on

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Speaker 2: the street. And I got a potential playoff team. What's this?

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Speaker 2: What's the process?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 2: How does it work well?

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Speaker 6: At this point? Since you're past the trade deadline, you're

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Speaker 6: really your only chance is gonna have to be somebody

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Speaker 6: from your own roster at this point. Unless you just

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Speaker 6: get lucky and there's a quarterback who's on the street

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Speaker 6: who's been in a Shane Steak Upstiken offense before, I'd

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Speaker 6: have to look it up. For the chances are slim

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Speaker 6: so well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you call Philip Rivers, get him out of retirement,

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Speaker 2: or or or you go any of the Philly backups

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Speaker 2: when he was there, I guess is the only other ones?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if you've seen Philip recently. I

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Speaker 6: mean he's coaching high school football think right now, So

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Speaker 6: I think that may not work. But look, I think

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Speaker 6: as as third quarterbacks go, and hopefully he's healthy, but

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Speaker 6: Riley Leonard, you could do worse than Riley Leonard because

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Speaker 6: when he has a side strength and athletic ability, he

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Speaker 6: could make some plays with his feet. And Shane's very

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Speaker 6: creative with the offensive scheme, and you're gonna have to

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Speaker 6: rely on Jonathan Taylor and you're gonna see a lot

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Speaker 6: of Jonathan Taylor. Their offensive line is excellent now with

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Speaker 6: Riley Leonard. It was the same thing at Duke because

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Speaker 6: it wasn't Notre Dame look as a pastor decision making accuracy.

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Speaker 6: It's not quite NS already yet. But he's a big

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Speaker 6: time athlete and he's a leader. So he does give

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Speaker 6: them a fighting chance with their offensive line with Jonathan

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Speaker 6: Taylor and with Shane Stichen. But at this point, with

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Speaker 6: four weeks ago in the year, to go outside your

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Speaker 6: team to find a quarterback to come in and start,

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Speaker 6: very highly unlikely.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Torod Taylor was your starter. You had drafted, you know,

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Speaker 2: you had drafted a guy who has now become an

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Speaker 2: absolute star for the for the LA Chargers, right, and

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert. So Justin Herbert just had surgery on his hand,

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Speaker 2: and I guess he's gonna play. Before we get to Herbert,

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Speaker 2: what was that like during his first start as the

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Speaker 2: general manager when you found out about the injection gone

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Speaker 2: wrong for Torod Taylor?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely incredible because where I was up in the suite

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Speaker 6: arm break before kickoffs and none of us knew what

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Speaker 6: that happened, and that all happened right before kickoff, obviously

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Speaker 6: within like thirty seconds to a minute, and we see

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Speaker 6: Justin run onto the field and we're looking at each

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Speaker 6: other like, hey, you guys kind of holding this back

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Speaker 6: of the secret, like absolutely not. So I looked down

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Speaker 6: and I saw Tarrod Taylor on the bench. I saw

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Speaker 6: them walking to Rod into the locker room, and honestly,

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Speaker 6: my first thought was, what's wrong with Tarad? So that's

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Speaker 6: so I was on the phone with the doctors downstairs

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Speaker 6: in the locker room through that situation. Out. I missed

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Speaker 6: the whole first series that Justin drove us down for

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Speaker 6: a score against Kansas City, missed the whole thing because

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Speaker 6: we're trying to figure out with Tarrod Taylor where he

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Speaker 6: was and it was he okay. But the interesting whole

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Speaker 6: thing about that situation was this was the COVID year,

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Speaker 6: so there were no preseason games. There were no live

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Speaker 6: scrimmages against any other teams in the preseason, so Justin's

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Speaker 6: teammates and as coaches had never seen him play live.

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Speaker 6: They've seen him throw the ball in practice, they've seen him,

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Speaker 6: you know, in a practice of them, but never live.

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Speaker 6: So his first play in that huddle was the first

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Speaker 6: time that eve ever seen him play live football and

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Speaker 6: him drive us down put a score in the end zone.

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Speaker 6: Was pretty cool. But situation obviously something I've never seen

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Speaker 6: of or been part of before, but it was kind

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Speaker 6: of a surreal experience.

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Speaker 2: All right, So tonight, what are your expectations. Philly doesn't

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Speaker 2: have their best pass rusher, but still a dynamic defensive

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Speaker 2: line against the Chargers team that has sort of stabilizer

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Speaker 2: offensive line. But you know, down their two starting tackles

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Speaker 2: for the year, it's not great. They've been able to somehow,

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Speaker 2: you know, get it to this point at eight and four.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of the matchup?

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Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing tonight is Omurray and Hampton

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Speaker 6: back in the lineup. He's a big time running back.

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Speaker 6: He's big, he's powerful, he runs with an identity with

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Speaker 6: his physicalness, but he also has some speed if you

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Speaker 6: can get out in space to finish run. So they're

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Speaker 6: gonna have to run the ball as well as they

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Speaker 6: can tonight. He's gonna give them a big jump, a

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Speaker 6: big boost. I think, thank you. I want to see

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Speaker 6: how Justin Herbert maneuver is in the like just with

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Speaker 6: handoffs with this left hand. Rayn how he's going to

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Speaker 6: do that. I play at should pass where they work

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Speaker 6: under center at all, we'll all be out of shotgun.

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Speaker 6: I'm assuming it'll be on a shotgun, but we'll find

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Speaker 6: out tonight. But I think can't they could be a

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Speaker 6: big part of this. It's a playoff game for the Chargers,

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Speaker 6: no doubt. Eagles. I think they're good. They'll still be in,

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Speaker 6: but AFC is a little bit jumbled up right now.

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Speaker 6: This is a big time game for the Chargers tonight.

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Speaker 2: Awesome stuff, Tom, have a great weekend. Hope you had

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Speaker 2: a happy Thanksgiving and a merry Christmas to you and

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Speaker 2: your entire family. Thanks for our guests.

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Speaker 6: You've got Doug any time. Take care.

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Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

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Speaker 2: game with Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: What up, Dan? What do you got Doug?

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Speaker 8: The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal,

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Speaker 8: big deal, little deal or no deal. That Isaiah Likely's

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Speaker 8: touchdown for the Ravens was ruled incompletes in yesterday's game

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Speaker 8: against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a big deal. There's just no other way

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Speaker 2: around it. Games are that close and that thing, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's a gigantic deal. Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Dan, No, I was just gonna say. There

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Speaker 5: is so much being made about this third step. There's

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Speaker 5: so much being made about what is a catch, what

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Speaker 5: is in a catch? And I think we all think

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Speaker 5: that holding the football and tucking it in is a

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Speaker 5: complete of the catch. But yesterday with Carrie Rhoades on

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Speaker 5: our Sunday Show, Carrie made this point. A few others

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Speaker 5: who have actually played the game made the point as

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Speaker 5: well today that tucking it in isn't necessarily the safest

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Speaker 5: way to keep the football, which is what Isaiah Likely

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Speaker 5: did in this situation, and was holding it out so

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Speaker 5: it wouldn't be knocked away from him, and so like

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Speaker 5: that is a football play, but the rules in the

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Speaker 5: way that they're defined, don't characterize that.

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Speaker 2: So it's a mess. It's a big mess. It does

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Speaker 2: remind me of the Virginia Florida State game, right it

585
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Speaker 2: was like second or third game of the year with

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Speaker 2: the Florida State kid. He bobbled it through the end

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Speaker 2: zone and then he had it, but then he adjusted it,

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Speaker 2: and after the adjustment, after it looked like he had it,

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Speaker 2: then it wasn't a complete pass. But it's like he

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Speaker 2: caught the ball and then a jut.

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Speaker 5: It's very hard, big deal, little deal or no deal

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Speaker 5: that the Bengals blew a ten point fourth quarter lead

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Speaker 5: to the Bills in a snowstorm.

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Speaker 2: Gigantic, gigantic. I mean, this is why Joe Burrow came

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Speaker 2: back and played. Obviously, T Higgins hitting his head on

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Speaker 2: the turf was terrible considering what he's gone through with concussions.

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Speaker 5: He returned to the game, by the way, and then

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Speaker 5: today was putting concussion protocol. So yes, that was.

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Speaker 2: Weird because when he saw him hit it and he saw

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Speaker 2: him hold his head, You're like, ooh, that's not good.

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Speaker 2: Then he's back in the game. You're like wait, how so?

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Speaker 2: But sometimes they miss him when you try and see

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Speaker 2: him early on, and then you have a headache the

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Speaker 2: whole night. But it's a big deal. Big deal obviously,

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Speaker 2: playoff implications for the Bengals, playoff invocations for the Bills,

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Speaker 2: and you know it's whatever you want to call it,

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Speaker 2: miraculous comeback or collapse, depending on which side of the

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Speaker 2: ale you.

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Speaker 5: Sit, big deal, little deal, or no deal. That the

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Speaker 5: Raiders kicked the field goal to lose by seven instead

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Speaker 5: of ten at the end of the game against the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Now, were they doing it so they get then on

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Speaker 2: side kick or they just doing it no cover?

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Speaker 5: Oh, time expired? They did it with five seconds left,

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Speaker 5: forty six yard field goal from Daniel Carlson. I encourage

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Speaker 5: you to check out Fox Sports Radio dot com, check

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Speaker 5: out Fox Sports Radio on x or at Dan Byer

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Speaker 5: on Fox on x I as this happened yesterday, explained

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Speaker 5: my thoughts on the deal. Feel that Pete Carroll wanted

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Speaker 5: to shove it down the throats of all the Broncos

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Speaker 5: fans and make them lose their bet since that was

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Speaker 5: the only thing that he could win. And you know

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Speaker 5: that there were Broncos fans who probably placed bets on

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Speaker 5: the Broncos by minus eight or minus eight and a half.

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Speaker 5: I think that's exactly what Pete Carroll was doing.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's what he's doing. I think he

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Speaker 2: was trying to lose by fewer points. I really think

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Speaker 2: that's what he's trying to do. You're like, well, I

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Speaker 2: could have thrown in the end zone, you know, or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I think he was in terms of take the shirt points.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't look as bad when you lose by seven.

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Speaker 2: I think that's right.

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Speaker 5: Can I bring in Jason Stewart for this, who I

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Speaker 5: always feel has a great critical eye? What did you

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Speaker 5: think on the Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 7: Was an atrocious beat? And anyone who had money on

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Speaker 7: the Broncos has to question what's going on, Why there's

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Speaker 7: no reason to kick that field goal, and then also

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Speaker 7: there's a questionable call to even get them in field

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Speaker 7: goal range. The whole thing was extremely questionable.

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Speaker 2: So you're you're going, you're going conspiracy, theoris it's.

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Speaker 7: Rigged, something is, something's up. This is not just a

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Speaker 7: coach trying to get the score closer.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna say, because again, if you're doing

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Speaker 2: it for the lot for the line. Everybody gets fired,

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Speaker 2: just so we're aware if it ever comes out that

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Speaker 2: you were doing it because of the betting line. Everybody

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Speaker 2: gets fired.

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Speaker 5: College coaches do it all the time. Though in college

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Speaker 5: football they they know what the line is. Yeah they do.

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Speaker 5: You know that, true, coach. But it's difficult when in

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Speaker 5: college football you're a big school. You know what the

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Speaker 5: line is, you know who is betting out.

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Speaker 2: You know what the line is. But you also you

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Speaker 2: can run it up now because you have the you

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Speaker 2: have the rankings based upon based upon score differential.

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Speaker 7: Don't tell David Portnoy this by the way he wants

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Speaker 7: he thinks Pete Carroll should be walked up. Sounds like

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Speaker 7: he lost at least five figures on.

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Speaker 5: You also went a little bit further that he shouldn't

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Speaker 5: have said.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, no way, no, no, I would he would never.

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Speaker 2: He would never go top on something.

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Speaker 5: Big deal, little deal or no deal. That Ohio State

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Speaker 5: only dropped to two in the rankings after losing to Indiana,

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Speaker 5: that's a huge deal.

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Speaker 2: Huge. I know they lost on a very makeable field

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Speaker 2: goal that was pulled wide left, but that's not generally

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Speaker 2: the case of how it works. They did in fact

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Speaker 2: lose the game, but again, I think that's the overwhelming

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Speaker 2: belief that Ohio State's still gonna win this thing, and

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Speaker 2: that is game time. Come up in the doc coming

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