1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: M The Around the League Podcast keeps sandwich shops in business. 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal sitting here for Dan Handis. I'm alongside 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and Kevin Patra very emphatic what's 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: happening it Happy Friday, Boss the Boss. I wanted to 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: make sure I brought the same energy that Dan brings 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: to the top of the show. It's a veteran move. 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: You just sunk West's consistent opener. Though that's all right, 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: It's only meant for Dan. It would be weird if 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: he said Hi, Dan too, So you don't want to 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: say hi to me. You didn't say what up boys? 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm just happy I didn't have to sit there silently 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: like I normally do, because I know what up boys 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: is a rhetorical question that really should have no answer. 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: There is no answer. You're saying you're more logical host 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: than day. I would not say that. But let's stop 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: with the chit chat this time, because we've got a 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: big NFL story that dropped a bomb on us in 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: the newsroom just a couple of hours ago. We thought 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: we were gonna have to stretch and make up some 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: crazy segments for this show, but we don't have to 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: because we've got big news. We're gonna talk to Sean 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: Jackson getting cut by the Eagles first, talk about some 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: potential landing spots, will go into the news, and then 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: we'll wrap up the show just with a quick some 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: winners and losers from this week. But let's start with 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: the Sean Jackson. We didn't think it would happen this soon, 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: did we? Why did the Eagles let go of de 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: Sean Jackson? And why did it happen now? Chris Wesley, Well, 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: I think they realized nobody was giving anything in a 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: trade once the rest of the thirty one teams knew 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: that they weren't gonna they were gonna release him any way, 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: So why give anything up? And then obviously, well not obviously, 34 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: but we can surmise that whatever personality class he had 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: with Chip Kelly, or missing meetings, whatever was going on 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: off the field asking for more money, the Eagles decided 37 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: wasn't worth what he was doing on the field. So 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: that's why I would say that the timing of coming 39 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 1: out of the week, we just were at the NFL 40 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: annual meeting where whoever is going to help Finesse and 41 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: Greece a trade. Had every chance to talk with every 42 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: possible person you could at length. Nothing came out of that, 43 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: and like clockwork, he's gone, and for all the reasons 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: that the West just mentioned. Do we think the fact 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: that an article was released today on NJ dot com 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: that basically detailed some of the off field concerns the 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: Eagles had about Deshaun Jackson, including his inconsistent work ethic, 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: bad attitude, missed some meetings, um they referred to, some 49 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: possible connections with his friends and two gang members. Do 50 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: we think it's a coincidence that this article comes out 51 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: today and he gets released later that day. I don't 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: think so. I think this is inevitable thing that was 53 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: gonna happen. I don't think that it. I mean, do 54 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: we think that it's sped up the process somebody reporting 55 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: that he might have been a member of a gang 56 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: or had gang affiliates. I don't think though. I think 57 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: this is it was Eagles that already made up their 58 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: mind to release him. And I think what Chris said 59 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: earlier that they didn't find a trade partner and they 60 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: had no that might as well do it now, why 61 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: why let it linger on into the off season. It's 62 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: disheartening to me that this ruse that professional sports teams 63 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: have been perpetrating on the American public for for hundreds 64 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: of years, I mean over a century. When we cut 65 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: ties with a player, we have to pull the wool 66 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: over the public's eyes and give them a reason why 67 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: we're doing it. The same thing that the Panthers a 68 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: report leaks on the same day that they released Steve 69 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: Smith that says he was just a distraction, despite over 70 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: a decade of reports saying he was a team leader. 71 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: These things just it. It's disappointing to me that teams 72 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: feel like they have to do this and they don't 73 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: have to just to least the guy stand by why 74 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: you released him. And if the fans can't deal with it, 75 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: they're still going to turn out because you you have 76 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: an NFL team that's more valuable than that. On the 77 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: Jackson front, though outside of some of the more detailed 78 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: reports of the gang connection, and that was that was 79 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: lower and lower, but there. But but we've been writing 80 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: about de Sean Jackson for weeks and the narrative that 81 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: he's not a great fit for Chip Kelly's team building 82 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: operation is not an alien thought to us. We've known 83 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: this for ages, and I think that's, along with his salary, 84 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: something that made him a tough sell for a big 85 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: chunk of teams that might be interested. Well, whether or 86 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: not it's founded, by the way, has never been arrested, 87 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: has never really done something well, but but he's been 88 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: painted that way, which if you're de Sean Jackson and 89 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: his camp, has to be annoying. I think it's not 90 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: gonna stop teams from going after him, and that will 91 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: get into in a minute. Who could I mean, whatever 92 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: concerns you're we're meant talking about. There are a lot 93 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: of NFL players who have had way bigger problems with 94 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 1: the law or off the field stuff that are making 95 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: a lot of money. You know, the teams are they'll 96 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: sign him. Teams aren't going to just get rid of 97 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 1: a player with his talent just because of red flags. 98 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: There there was those off the field things, There was 99 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: more going on in the background. Was Chip Kelly. I 100 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: think has faith that his offense can move on from 101 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: and be successful without to Sean Jackson, and they have 102 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: pieces that they believe that can fill those receptions. It's 103 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: nice to have Kevin Patrick in the studio, And isn't 104 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: it's such a wooly manly beard here too. I mean, 105 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: it just adds a level of somebody has to he's 106 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: brought the lavender shirt to the mixes that lavender a 107 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: purple ish, I'm not. It's like the only that's an 108 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: off field concern right there? That sure, Uh, just don't cut. 109 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: The thing with Jackson though, is he's coming off a 110 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: d and thirty two yards season with nine touchdowns. That 111 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: is the best season of his career. And you can 112 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: make I would argue he's not a true number one 113 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: receiver in the sense that he's not a top ten 114 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: NFL receiver because he has a little more limited of 115 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: a skill set. But he's a great vertical threat and 116 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: it's not that crazy to pay him ten million dollars 117 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: and he's coming off a great season. So what's going on? 118 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: Because tons of cap room? They have tons of cap room. 119 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: That's not the issue, and the production is not the issue. 120 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: So there is something going on here, right. I think 121 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: that's what we talked about a few minutes ago. We 122 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: we can't say what it is because we're not there, 123 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: but the reports are he and chip Kelly don't get along. 124 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly wants to establish a culture that Jackson doesn't 125 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: fit in. And you know, I think chip Kelly is 126 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: the kind of guy that believes in his offense, not 127 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: the players. And it's not just chip Kelly sitting in 128 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: a room by himself pulling a trigger. This is Howie Roseman, 129 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: this is the owner. You know, they gave this guy 130 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: a fat contract and there's the report it out there 131 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: that he came back two years later and asked for more. 132 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: And it's it's maybe a conversation the Eagles had in general, 133 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: because Hey, don't tell me that chip Kelly didn't have 134 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: players at Oregon that didn't have sketchy pass or sketchy 135 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: current lifestyles. Yeah. I don't think it's about the past 136 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: as much as his actions within the building, how they 137 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: feel like if he's missed meetings or his leadership or 138 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: whatever issues they have when they're actually face to face 139 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: with him. Do we think the Eagles offense takes a 140 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: significant hit here? Patrick Well, I think we have to 141 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: see what what what do they do in the draft? 142 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: Who's healthy? I mean Darren Sprowls in that offense. I 143 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: think it's an interesting piece that he can move all over. 144 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: That's the kind of player he had at Oregon, maybe 145 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: a little older, but moved all the way around. So 146 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't think a significant drop off, no, because I 147 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: also think that Nick Foles will get better over the 148 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: course of the year. All you hear is that it's 149 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: a super deep draft for wide receivers. The one thing 150 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: about d Jacks, it's it's one thing that it would 151 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: have been more well in his His yardage from weeks 152 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: one through eight was about six something yards, and he 153 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: doubled it and down the stretch. He didn't fall off 154 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: a cliff and he wasn't replaced by someone else. They 155 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: do have Macklin back. I think that's a big part 156 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: of why they were able to consider doing this. He 157 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: wasn't targeted as much by foals at the end of 158 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: the year as he was in the beginning. We have 159 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: deep production did did He's valuable. The player closest to 160 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: him in the NFL got a five year, sixty million 161 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: dollar contract last year, Mike Wallace. These are two guys 162 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: with about four three three four three five speed who 163 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: can get down the field and blow the top off 164 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: a defense. They're valuable and I take Jackson over Wallace. 165 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: I think he's a smarter player, like just in terms 166 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: of how he gets open. He has seemed more motivated 167 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: the past two years than Mike Wallace has. I wouldn't 168 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: be shocked, honestly, with this thing gets published in two 169 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: hours that by the time people are clicking into this tonight, 170 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: he already is on a new team. Oh no, So 171 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: what would we do then? Well, we would I don't know. 172 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: We would probably all come back in here at midnight 173 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: and refashion a show about Clay Harbor. What if calling 174 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: I'll call him from that bar Imann in Chicago. We 175 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: could just replace for Deshan's name. I think one of 176 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: us is going to nail his landing spot, and so 177 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: that'll make one of us look very smart. I I 178 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: do worry about the Eagles that we're just assuming Chip 179 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: Kelly can solve everything. Jeremy Macklin Rally Coubert not a 180 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: really exciting starting wide receiver. Do but let's talk about 181 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: where Jackson could land, like you mentioned, and let's bring 182 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: back one of our favorite games that was such a 183 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: big hit. Go get my sandwich. You know what's next. 184 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: It's implied, um, let's pick landing spots, and if any 185 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: one of us in the room gets the right team, 186 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: the other three gentlemen in the room have to go 187 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: get them a delicious, high octane sandwich. Am I gonna 188 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: have to fly in to get you that sandwich. We'll 189 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: have to That's a good better just Win Jackson, high octane, 190 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: elaborate sandwich, Kevin Patrick. We might have to wait for 191 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: the time when Patrick comes back in to cash in. 192 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: If you you know win or either way, you're gonna 193 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: have to when you come back to l A. You'll 194 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: have to get us some sandars Goldman Zach. The gold 195 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: standard is behind the glass. You could jump in on 196 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: this if you want, but you have to have the 197 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: fifth draft pick and give us the sandwich. So you 198 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: take that challenge. I mean, I already know one of 199 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,359 Speaker 1: these picks and it's my pick, but I'll hop in nobody, 200 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: nobody else has taken the Titans yet. I'm just impressed. 201 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: If you can. If you know five NFL teams, you're 202 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: gonna have to do some goog Here's a backhanded compliment. 203 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: Let's start with Wesley. I'm going with the team that 204 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: was in the original DeShawn Jackson report as already having 205 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: made inquiries. Sean Jackson went to college at Cal, which 206 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: just just happens to be very close to the San 207 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners. Jim Harball said this week, I'm looking 208 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: for a third guy who can get open to make plays, 209 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: a guy who can attack all areas of the field, 210 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: a playmaker. That's what we're looking for. De Sean Jackson's 211 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: that guy. Perfect for that offense. They need a speed guy. 212 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: They they said publicly Trent Balky that they weren't interested 213 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: in trading for Deshan Jackson. I like how Trent Balkey 214 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: went about his denial. He said, as of this moment, well, 215 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: they weren't interested in trading for him. Ian Rapport reported that, 216 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: and no team was. That's obvious. That's why they get cut. 217 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: But this this changes things now that he's free man. 218 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: He makes a lot of sense, and they have salary 219 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: cap issues, but you can arrange his contract now to 220 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: fit that, and they don't have to get an extension 221 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: done with Kaepernick. They can pay him less than a 222 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: million this year and do it next year. I like that. 223 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to go Kansas City chiefs. Uh two reasons, Well, 224 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: what I think They're interesting. Interest is legitimate. We heard 225 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: even before we came up here into a Studios sixty 226 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: six that there is some feelers coming from the Kansas 227 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: City area. But big piece for me because that's an 228 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: organization that doesn't go out of its way to sign 229 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: total headcases. And I think that read though already can 230 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: go to his owner and that front office and say 231 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: I can vouch for this guy. I've worked with him 232 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: and he and he has and that takes a big 233 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: chunk of the risk away. It also fits a big 234 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: need on that offense. It would give the Chiefs that's 235 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: something they did not have on any level last season. 236 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: Like you guys say, is a unique playmaker. They can 237 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: they can go to that in the draft, but they 238 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: can go somewhere else in the draft that they do 239 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: get this. They don't have a ton of space, but they, 240 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: like you said, the good teams find a way to 241 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: get this done. Kansas City Andy Reid was thanked by 242 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: d Jackson his statement his name was spelled incorrectly. They 243 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: can get over that, guaranteed. D jacks didn't didn't type 244 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: that thing out. It's not his fault that he's also 245 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: a good Donny Avery, you could tell that like Andy 246 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: Reid was trying to replacing Donnie Avery with the Sean 247 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Jackson is like replacing Sessler's goatee with Patra's beard. I 248 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: mean it is a It is a major effort. This 249 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: is just because lazy. You know, this isn't I'm not 250 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: trying statement with my goateee. I thought that was letting 251 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: your beat Nick flag fly A little bit of that too. 252 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: I like it because Sessler, you can't compare a goatee 253 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: to it all out Woodsman's beer exactly. They're different. You're 254 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: trying to do something differently. That's why your goatee may 255 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: or may not make the roster this year. But Patrack 256 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: gave him some money. Beat Nick is donny ay. Yeah, 257 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: well you are going on vacation next week, and so 258 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: I think it's in preparation for just letting it, letting 259 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: it go real did say he at the owner's meetings. 260 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: He has nothing but good things to say about the 261 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: Sean Jackson. He drafted him, he had a great relationship 262 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: with him. Uh that he's experienced life things. So it 263 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the world if I'm gonna 264 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: lose a sandwich. I have a feeling it's the mark, 265 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: but Patrick, you can still try. Yeah, I'll try, all right, 266 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: I'm going to chess. I'm going to give him to 267 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: the New York Jets. I think it makes sense. Woody 268 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: Woody Johnson's already on the record saying they wanted him. 269 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: They didn't want to trade for him, but they were 270 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: extremely interested. When you're whenever your owner is willing to 271 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: in my world, Tamper, he was still part of the 272 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: Eagles at the time. He said that there's too certainly 273 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: they have they have they have the money, They certainly 274 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: have a need next to to Decker. That would be 275 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,479 Speaker 1: a good fit there. I think, Um, he has familiarity 276 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: with Vick is already on the roster. Maybe he's not 277 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: the starter yet, but he has familiar there. He has 278 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: familiar ardy with moren Wegg. So I mean, I think 279 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. They can afford one big, one, 280 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: big issue, all right, the glacial john is currently in 281 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: Central Iowa at a ten day raw foods retreat, doesn't 282 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: even know the free Agency oll and tex waking him 283 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: up right now. Rex is running to his door. Calls 284 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: to Sean Jake's Jackson's agent. Twenty four hours after he 285 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: assigned with another team. Big issue, not big enough. Not 286 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: when the owners on on records saying he wants, uh, 287 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: we're due for Woody Johnson fingerprints move. I mean we 288 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: you know these moves tend to happen every couple of 289 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: years in New York when they need a big splash. 290 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: Brett Farve, Yeah, I'm sure that was Eric Mangini's idea. 291 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: Really wanted to bring that into the mix. Tim T Bump, Hey, 292 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: what the heck? He makes all the sense in the world. 293 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: I like it. Patrick. I'm going with the Raiders, another 294 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: Bay Area team, and the biggest reason why is that 295 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: they are the team most likely to give de Sean 296 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: Jackson that number one wide receiver money. That de Sean 297 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: Jackson wants that the same sort of contract he got 298 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: from the Eagles, the Raiders could go get him. It's 299 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: always always come found the money with you. It's a 300 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: big factor in the NFL free agent Yet it didn't 301 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: matter such a well. I mean, I threw this out 302 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: there that Jackson actually might be a little too young 303 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: for Reggie mckennny. He wants more thirty two. Thirty three 304 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: year old Jason Avant might be more his style. But 305 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: it would be a great fit. Right. You've correctly foreseen 306 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: a time when Mackenzie signs d Jacks to play with 307 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: Oakland in two thousand and nineteen. I love the idea 308 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: of DeShawn Jackson running a go route seventy yards downfield 309 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: and match shop jumping off to Marcel Reese. Yeah, that 310 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: that is a problem. But I love my pick, and 311 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna give the gold Standard the scraps. You gotta 312 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: pick another team. You gotta pick it now. I read 313 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: the tea leaves going to the Seattle Seahawks. Wow, I see. 314 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is a proselytizing healing figure. He wants this 315 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: guy like he he sounds like as oh yeah, I'll 316 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: throw that one in. Sounds good to me. Um, yeah, 317 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: I know, it just feels it feels right to me. Guys, 318 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: we're asking a lot of the gold Standards to stop 319 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: in mid conversation and then do some heavy levels him 320 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: in that offense along with you know who is the 321 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: Sean Jackson kind of a low grade facts simile, a 322 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: more physically weak facsimile of Percy Harvy. No, I think 323 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: they're different because Jackson is really that vertical guy and 324 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: not that Percy harv And can't get vertical, but he 325 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: you can do anything with him. He's a tough guy 326 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: running over people in the backfield and the slot. If 327 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: they did that and then they you know, we talked 328 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: to John Schneider in Orlando and he said they're still 329 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: interested in Finley, They're just waiting it out. That offense 330 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: completely different from what we saw. Just give him the Lombard, 331 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: you do. Interesting the Seahawks have been tied in some 332 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: shaky looking national reports, uh tying them to the Sean Jackson. 333 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: So it's not that crazy. See, they don't have a 334 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: ton of cap room, but Pete Carroll did try to 335 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: recruit de Sean Jackson to USC. The Seahawks and forty 336 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: Niners are kind of like ten year old girls. If 337 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: one gets a pony, the other one needs one to 338 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: In this case, there's only one pony. Good job, gold 339 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: standard jumping in there. All right, Well, let's wrap up 340 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: this DeShawn talk and let's get to the rest of 341 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: the news in the NFL. Alright, let's start with Maurice Jones. 342 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: Drew we thought this would be leading off the show, 343 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: joining the Oakland Raiders on a three year contract. Good 344 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: move or not. Chris Wesley, I like him as a 345 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: bounce back candidate. You know, reading about him, he looks 346 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: slimmer this year. I don't know. I want to see 347 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: him on here this year. Come on, I want to 348 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: see him on a contender. I don't want to see 349 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: him on a rebuilding team. To me, that doesn't make 350 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: any sense. I agreed. I I had a weird feeling 351 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: that he was going to end up with someone like 352 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: San Francisco or some team where they could use him 353 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: in the right role and he would have been an 354 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: interesting addition the Raiders backfield with mg D and McFadden. Uh, 355 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: you got Reee in there. I like Reese probably more 356 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: than any of them. Frankly, it's a strange move, and 357 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: it completely backs Greg's concept that we're going to sign 358 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: players just to tad after they have done their damage. 359 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Surprising that he would move to another team that really 360 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: he didn't go to a contender. I thought that maybe 361 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: he would sign with somebody like the Steelers, where he 362 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: might not have as big of a role, but they 363 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: could can go and be in the playoffs next year. 364 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't. He didn't make much money that 365 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 1: a ton of money on this deal as it is, 366 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: so I'm kind of surprised that he went to another 367 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: team where he's not gonna win again. Probably the best 368 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 1: deal he was offered, though, what is it probably come 369 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: down in the best chance to actually become a starter 370 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: if you want a factor in McFadden's lack of durability, 371 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: and if you go to Pittsburgh, you're not touching, you're 372 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: not taking anything away from Lavon Bell. So maybe that 373 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: was part of his decision making. Who who gets more 374 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: carries next season, McFadden or Jones Drew. I think Jones drewdeus. 375 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: I think he's a better runner right now. I think 376 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: Jon Drew just because of McFadden's inability to stay healthy. 377 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: I'll go Reheese. This is tough for wrestling because he's 378 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: been irrationally backing Darren McFadden for many years and oddly 379 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: is jumping on the Jones Drew bandwagon. This yes irrational 380 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: when Westling is bringing out he's in the greatest shape 381 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: of his life. As no, I don't think his legs 382 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: are in the greatest shape of his life. Jones Drew 383 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: was not a good runner last year, especially in the 384 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: open field. Usually when you're that old. You don't bounce back. 385 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: I don't like it doesn't make much. They have a 386 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: brilliant backfield in two thousand nine, Yes they do. It 387 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: did work though, when they signed the Jacksonville to Oakland 388 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: backfield move worked very well for them next year. You know, 389 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: last year they had Rashad Jennings. This year Jones Drew, 390 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: Next year Jordan Todman, Little Jordan season, Toby Gerhard trade crickets. 391 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Mark Sanchez, Chris Wesseling's third 392 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: favorite player in the league behind McFadden and Jones Drew. 393 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: Philadelphia signed him as a backup championship move. I argued 394 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: in the news room, we shouldn't even bring up Mark 395 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: Sanchez because he doesn't matter in the NFL anymore. Yeah, 396 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: so we should just move on. That's what you're saying. 397 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: That's lame. We talked about Ryan Fitzpatrick, we talked about 398 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: lots of backups, the backup quarterback. He's not good enough 399 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: to start for anyone, So that's why he's with the Eagle. 400 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: It's interesting that he would sign there where he clearly 401 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 1: I mean, fools, doesn't you know, I don't see him 402 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: getting hurt next year. I don't see Sanchez ever, well, 403 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: you don't know that getting better than him. It's like 404 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: he plays the way like Vick would play, where I 405 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: could you know, sense that he would get hurt every 406 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: Marcus Mark assumes every player. I mean it's a part 407 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: of the sport. I think it's interesting for I think 408 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: it's interesting for Sanchez that he would go go there 409 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: where he's clearly gonna be back up for just once 410 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: sign just one year. Um, I mean clearly. I feel 411 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: like he thinks he wants to do kind of what 412 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: Foals didn't learn quickly under Chip Kelly. Maybe he gets better. 413 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't see that offense is a great fit for him. 414 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: I don't know where he was going to go and 415 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: legitimately be um a starter outside of one or two teams. 416 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: The Raiders went off the board with Shob Cleveland needs 417 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: a starter, but I think they would prefer Hoyer over Sanchez. 418 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: This to me is the parallel of Chip Kelly saying 419 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring in a coach who was about his 420 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: vanilla and off the radar and potentially not going to 421 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: be a head coach again in Pat Shermer and re 422 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: engineer his entire career. This is good for Sanchez to 423 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: go get some good coaching. I'm not sure morning Wig 424 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: is a good coach, but he's had so many different coordinators, 425 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: so many different systems. Let's go see tuck him away. 426 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: I agree with West. He's not a factor in the 427 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: National Football League this year barring injury, and we don't 428 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: need to talk about him again until next year when 429 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: he's going to be on the free agent market again. 430 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: He's a backup on a division favorite team. There the 431 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: odds are in favor that Mark Santez will start a 432 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: very meaningful game. But he is the perfect kind of 433 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: player that we forget, not necessarily you or you or you, 434 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: but in this time of year that this was a 435 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: disastrous quarterback when he played last He is not the 436 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: guy unless you're gonna hand to have him hand the 437 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: ball off to in two thousand and nine, four times, 438 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: this guy is not a guy you can trust. My 439 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: uh unwillingness to talk about Mark Sanchez isn't because I 440 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: don't think he will get into a game and play 441 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: meaningful minutes. It's a complete reaction to all of the 442 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: media jumping on board the Mark Sanchez circus that every 443 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: every time he sneezed, we had to report it. Yeah, 444 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: that was This is my reaction to that. But I 445 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: agree it's smart. It's smart by him to sign with 446 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: the Eagles. Where else can he go and if he 447 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: gets five starts, rebuild his value where we're better than 448 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: than Philly. I think he has a great career in 449 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: front of him as a very good backup that is 450 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 1: sort of comfortable in that role and helpful to the 451 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: other starter. And you'd be good at that. Although you 452 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: listened to his press cover, he kind of made it 453 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: sound like, you know, he saw Philadelphia as an opportunity 454 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: and it's not the most established quarterback in the world. 455 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: It's not. Yeah, he did say that he wanted to start, 456 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: but he also said, you know, he's talked to two Foals, 457 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: they at the same agent, and you know he's not 458 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: he knows he knew he knows coming in that he's 459 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: the he's a clear backup that there is not gonna 460 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: be competition, that he's only going to play if if 461 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: Foals gets hurt. Essentially, that's what I saw. I that's 462 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: what I took. It can look like Johnny Unitus, Mark 463 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez can look pretty good too, and that and 464 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: one other system that I think would have been a 465 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: fit and I killed myself when I didn't ad him 466 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: to our potential landing spots was Mark Trustman in the 467 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: Bears because they don't have a backup. Uh. You know, 468 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: Cutler hasn't had a full season since what two thou nine, 469 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: and that would have been a chance where he would 470 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: have gotten great coaching too. But it's also true in Philly. 471 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not just Seattle in San Francisco trying to 472 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: top each other. Maybe Chip Kelly saw what Jim Harbaugh 473 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: did with Blade Gabbert and he said, I'm gonna top 474 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: you if I can turn Mark Sanchez around. I have 475 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: long term contracts for the rest of my life in 476 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: the NFL. Well, we're still waiting to see what anyone 477 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: does with Blaine gabb but other other than trade him, well, 478 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: just it's they're they're raising the difficulty level, like you 479 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: don't think I can do this, I'm gonna turn around Kelly. 480 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: Is interesting to think about it from that angle because 481 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,239 Speaker 1: he came in with this. Everyone said when he when 482 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: he signed with the Eagles that he needed a running 483 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: quarterback like allah Vic and had that, and now let's 484 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: look at his three quarterbacks. I mean, none of them 485 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: are gonna blow you away on a forty time, not 486 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: to mention J. G. Kinney also on the right. That 487 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: is a very slow group of relatively slow Sanchez is 488 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: the most athletic of the three of them, so that's 489 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: not a good sign. I'll packed twelve guys too. Interestingly enough, 490 00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: speaking of unathletic guys, Vince Wilfork signed a new contract 491 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: with the Patriots, did not get released in the end. 492 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: It amounts to a one year, eight million dollar contract, 493 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: but its signed as a three year deal. Do we 494 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: still have any hope that Vince Wilfork's going to be 495 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: an impact player coming off and Achilles Tendon? Is this 496 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: a Patriots like move to pay a guy that age 497 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: coming off and Achilles Tendon eight million dollars this year? 498 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: Let's start with not letting you slip by an athletic 499 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: and Winsfield With Vince will this guy could dunk a basketball, 500 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: that's fair. He's not just King Kong Bundy just rolling 501 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: down the bed. I mean, this is a that's true. 502 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I love Vince Wilfork's one of my favorite 503 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: players in the last ten years, so I apologized to 504 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: him and his wife in the whole family, they must 505 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: think so. At the owner's meeting, when Greg dispatched me 506 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: to go and get a quote from an owner on 507 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: a rather serious matter, I was trying to get Robert 508 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: Kraft and the Patriots pr guy Stacy James had me 509 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: standing somewhere about five feet away from Kraft, who suddenly 510 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: took a phone call, and it was very clear to 511 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: me that he was talking about Willfork with someone attached 512 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: to Wilfork, and Stacy James walked up because it was 513 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: there only there's no one else around. He said, excuse me, 514 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: can you go stand twenty ft over that way and 515 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: I'll bring Mr Craft to you when he's done, And 516 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: I knew something was going down, and then bang Craft 517 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: spoke glowingly about how he was hoping and desperate in 518 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: that Wilfork was one of his favorite players. So at 519 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: the end of the day, when the owners talking that way, 520 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 1: maybe the eight million comes from from there. If this 521 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: was ten years ago, there's no way he gets them money, 522 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: because that's how far achilles surgery has come in the 523 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: last ten years. And it used to be a death 524 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: knell for any player, especially a player at an important 525 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: position where you need the leverage like nose tackle. But 526 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: the last five years, especially starting with Damarus Thomas bouncing 527 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: back to an all pro level receiver, You've seen like 528 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: Terrell Sucks came back in six months of other players 529 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: have come back and said Crabtree came back. So I 530 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: don't think I don't think it's impossible to believe that 531 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: Wilford can come back and play at a high level. 532 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: And on the Eagles front, they must have the same 533 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: confidence in Macklin coming off major knee surgery as well. 534 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't think this is a move the Patriots would 535 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: have made ten years ago, because they didn't make sentimental 536 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: moves ten years ago. And there is just a little 537 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: bit of hey, this has been our guy. He is 538 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: next to Tom Brady, exactly what we want to put 539 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: forward as a New England Patriot. We're gonna have dead 540 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: money anyways, I'm like, maybe we can work out something. 541 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: I do think maybe ownership got involved or whatever it 542 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: was they worked out at the type of move that 543 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: this has been our guy. Let's try to keep him around. 544 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: It's nice to see as a Patriots fan, for once, 545 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: does this preventing them from having the ability to go 546 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: get to Sean Jackson. They have cap issues. It actually 547 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: saves money for them against the cap compared to where 548 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: they were. I think they're a long shot to get 549 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: to Sean Jackson with Amondla there, and they're really they 550 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: kind of packed at the wide receiver position, don't have 551 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: a lot of money, and they have no defensive tackles. 552 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: The other defensive tackles on their team are Tommy Kelly, 553 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: who may or may not make the team, Armand Armstead, 554 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: who has never really played in the NFL coming from Canada, 555 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: and Chris Jones. I mean, it's it's a bad position, 556 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: so they kind of had Esquire writer Esquire writer reference. 557 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's nice that you know him. If 558 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: he's happened to be listening. A little shout out from Toronto. 559 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something we almost never do on the 560 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: Around the League podcast. I'm gonna break some news to 561 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: you guys. While we've been up here taping. Le Garrett 562 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: Blunt has signed or agreed to a contract with the 563 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. Mike Tomlin talked about how they wanted to 564 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: get to get a veteran presence back there. I think 565 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: he actually works really well with Bell in that backfield. 566 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: He can be the third down sledgehammer, goal line, goal 567 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: line player that they didn't really use. It seems like 568 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: a Steelers kind of back. Absolutely, you groaned, Mark Sesler. 569 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: Why was that? Um? That just the little Browns fan voice? 570 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: Because I like I like Blunt and Ion. I thought 571 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: that of the few teams where if he weren't in 572 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: New England, could go and be productive and be used, well, 573 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's definitely one of them. Perfect Back when I used 574 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: to root for the Bengals, I have all these memories 575 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: of big backs like Bam Morris just salting away fourth 576 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: quarter leads. Give the ball to beddest, give the ball 577 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: to Band Morris, Walter Ambercrombie and and Blood's gonna fill 578 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: that role like he's your four minute back. Not on 579 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: the free agent market and do much. But this made 580 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: sense for them, right. And you don't see many backup 581 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: running backs that that don't catch the ball. But it 582 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: works out perfectly for them because Levian Bell. You know, 583 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: I spoke with Mike Tomlin at the at the annual 584 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: meeting and he said, I see him as an every 585 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: down you know, three hundred plus carry touched kind of guy. 586 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: That's who he is. He's at work. Course he did 587 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: in college. He can do it again. So Blunt in 588 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: this specialized role. Behind him now Levan Bell, last of 589 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: a dyning breed, three down back. Snap them up in 590 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: your fantasy leagues. Wait till Blunt we is announced that 591 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: he signed a two year, eighteen dollar deal. Because that's 592 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: the market for running backs right now, it is. I 593 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: wrote an article last night, Uh, the top six highest 594 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: paid punters in the league. We'll make more money this 595 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: year on average than all of the running backs average 596 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: on the open market from free agent everyone. Check that 597 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: out was a really good piece. It's up on the site. 598 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: Just google punters, running backs, and Chris Westling and you'll 599 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: find Well, I guess I didn't follow up on this, 600 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: but the next logical step is when do we start 601 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: seeing running backs don't get drafted until the fifth round 602 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: because punters and kickers don't get drafted into the fifth round. 603 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: They got it, Well, you still need running backs so 604 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: that they'll still go in the second, the third, by 605 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: the way, one of your favorites. And we won't belabor 606 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: this point though. Another move happened while we were up here. 607 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: The guy that Chris overrated more than any on our 608 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: top one hundred. Pat Sims has resigned with the Raiders. 609 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: He's only overrated if he doesn't play well. Is it 610 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: bad that that's my favorite Raiders move of the offseason? 611 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: Bad for the Raiders. Let's talk a little number one 612 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: pick of the NFL drafts. Mark He wrote a piece 613 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: today about the Texans and their possible interest in moving 614 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: from that number one pick. This came across the the 615 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: wire earlier in the day that Damn Pompey, who we 616 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: saw wandering up and down the hallway of the RITZ 617 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: talking to a lot of people last this week about 618 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: obviously the draft, came up with a report that the 619 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: Texans are trying very hard to trade down, that the 620 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: Bills are one team that is willing to go up 621 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: to number one. Now John McClean shot it down and 622 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: he's plugged in, dude, So we'll have to see what happens. 623 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: But I don't nothing surprises me that the Texans might 624 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: want to get out of that number one spot to 625 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: if they're a if they're looking for a quarterback, to 626 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: not over draft someone at number one. But the Bill 627 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: else Wesley and heard Doug Moron say anything goes at quarterback, right, 628 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: But then this week at the combine he said that. 629 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: This week of months later, the GM says Buffalo is 630 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: all in on ej. Manuel. So they're all in if 631 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: they're at number nine and the guy they want is gone. 632 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: But if they move up to number one, who could 633 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: it before other than a quarterback unless you're gonna over 634 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: value a Khalil Mack at number one, or you're gonna 635 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: go with one of the clowns. Obviously you did not 636 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: pay attention when you watch draft. I could see it 637 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: be a Clowney, but I don't know number one for Clowney, 638 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: I guess you you put them with Mario Williams. I 639 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: mean he would work really well and schwarts his defense. 640 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: By the way that Force is gonna want. That would 641 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: be the perfect pass rusher for him. Um, I think 642 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: you're you're right in that. The Texans, it's not a 643 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: surprised that they want to move down back. I think 644 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: every with the depth in this draft, I think pretty 645 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: much everyone's looking to move back. The Rams are gonna 646 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: If the Rams pick at number two, I would be 647 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: shocked if the Bill's drafted Clowney. They would have the 648 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: best defensive line in the NFL. I think he Mario Williams, 649 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: Marcel Darius, Kyle Williams and Clowney that would be I 650 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: completely agree. But here's the issue. If you're Doug Marone 651 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,479 Speaker 1: and these coaches don't have seven years to sit around 652 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: and build their team, Buffalo is a team that you 653 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: could look at and say they are ready to win now, 654 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: except for quarterback. But He's they looked, maybe they had 655 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: some interest in some free agent quarterbacks or whatever, but 656 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: they didn't do anything about it. And now they're not 657 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: only sticking with Manuel, they're saying that Lewis is the 658 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: guy they're confident as their backup. So that's it. They're 659 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: they're stuck there. These are the types of reports that 660 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna see a lot over the next six weeks, 661 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: and I don't put too much stock into any of them. 662 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: They're speculative. They'll go back and forth. I think, of course, 663 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: the Texans are trying to trade the one pick if 664 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: they can get the right offer, because no one seems 665 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: to be convinced that they're going to take a quarterback there, 666 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: or that any quarterback is worth taking number one. And 667 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: Clowney it's easy to sort of forget because a lot 668 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: of negative have come up about him. You know, he's 669 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: arguably the most talented player of the last three or 670 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: four drafts, so he's a guy you had trade up for. Um, 671 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: let's stay, let's stick on college football. You know, we 672 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: don't do a lot of college football around here, but 673 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: we're getting into the draft scene, NFL Draft. I mean, 674 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: we gotta start getting into it. It's coming up. Johnny 675 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: Manzel Pro Day this week apparently did his job, did 676 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: it like no one else has done it. As a 677 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: as a Browns fan. Mark Seessler, who might have the 678 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: chance to take Johnny football your thoughts, I will, I mean, 679 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: I guess the Pro Day, you keep hearing that it's overrated. 680 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: It means nothing. It's in this sterile, perfect environment. But 681 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: it kind of I found it a little bizarre that everyone, 682 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: even some of our own analysts on the network, admitted 683 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: that they're just like a Johnny Manziell fanboy at this 684 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: time after what they saw at the Pro Day, which 685 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: I guess what happened to looking at the game that 686 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 1: the game tape that other people say is so damning 687 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: that there's no way you can take him number one. 688 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: I haven't watched that tape, so I can't really comment. 689 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: I think something like the the Browns getting questioned for 690 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: why they didn't send somebody there even though they said 691 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: they weren't going and already said that they would have 692 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: a private workout with the quarterback. Why why does it 693 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: matter whether they send somebody or not. I agree with 694 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: Mark on the sense that we're told that these don't 695 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: matter that much. These don't matter that much, and then 696 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: the same people who have been saying that freak out 697 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: when a Jeddy Bridgewater doesn't do well, or go the 698 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: opposite way when Johnny Football does really well. The only 699 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: thing the thing I took most away from yesterday because 700 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, it was interesting that he did it in 701 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: pads and helmets, but not that it's the way he 702 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: kind of presented himself, like he gathered all the media 703 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: around him before and the you know whoever was there 704 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: and gave a little speech and they had a mix tape, 705 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: and then after after the way he you know, he 706 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: was kind of like he he was. He was very 707 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: self confident, but not like boastful after with the media. 708 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: So I think those aspects of it um are interesting, 709 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 1: where as because he gets so much attention off the field, 710 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: so I think that was important for him. Whereas the 711 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: stuff that he actually threw the ball, I don't think 712 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: that matters as much as his tape does. I I 713 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: am buying in not on him being a great player, 714 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 1: but I just like the fact that he's coming. I 715 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: like the fact that he's got this Joe Namath sort of. 716 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't care what every other Pro days gonna do. 717 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make my own mix tape and the Bush 718 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: family is gonna come out and a whole Pro day 719 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: is gonna stop for that. I mean, that's great, it's 720 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: great for us, great football. Why not like interesting? I 721 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: like the Broadway Joe comparison, and I think pro days 722 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: mean nothing, and whether the Browns were there or not 723 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: means even less than nothing. Yeah, I don't know. To me, 724 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: I know people who followed the draft get all worked 725 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: up about this kind of stuff, and I just it 726 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: doesn't even get on my radar. Right, all these teams 727 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: are working out privately. Which do you think matters the 728 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: choreographed pro day, you know it's charade in front of everyone, 729 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: or the fact that you've got him in your building. 730 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: You can ask him to do a million different specific 731 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: things and get him on the board an interview. I mean, 732 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: that's obviously gonna matter much more, but the media is 733 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: not at that. I'm excited for the Johnny football well 734 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: and I and I think Gregg said it well. I mean, 735 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: it's like, no matter what or where he goes in 736 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: the draft, it is going to be one of the 737 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: more fascinating players to write when week ones over. In 738 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: that game, rewind all twenty two hits on Tuesday, I 739 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: want to watch him and sit back and see what 740 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: he looks like. I don't have an ounce of free 741 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: time to go back and watch his game versus Louisiana 742 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: Tech from September two thousand twelve. Don't care as a 743 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: devote of the IT factor. I'm I'm waiting on Johnny 744 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: Man's believe in the factor, right. I got tired of 745 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 1: the Tim Tebow coverage very quickly. Not tired of Johnny Football. 746 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: I like that. All right, Let's wrap it up with 747 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: a quick segment on our winners and losers of the week. 748 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: And if you guys like this, you can tweet at 749 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: us and let us know and maybe we'll do it 750 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,919 Speaker 1: every Friday, or maybe we'll do it some Fridays when 751 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: we have the time. Basically, we're looking back at the week, 752 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: and you know, each one of us gives a winner 753 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: or a loser or both from the last seven days. 754 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick, let's start with you. I'm gonna do I'm 755 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 1: gonna start it with a both. That way we can, Okay. 756 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: I think that uh, the Bears one with getting um 757 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: Jared Allen, because I think he changes their defense and 758 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: they have to get after guys like Aaron Rodgers and 759 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford in that division, and I think that helps. 760 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: It's an immediate upgrade. But at the same time, I 761 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: think this whole process kind of like would have humbled 762 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: Jared Allen a little bit. He wanted ten million dollars. 763 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: He didn't get it. Now he got eight millions. They 764 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: still paid him a good amount, pretty good, but not 765 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: what he was wanted. And I think in the the 766 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: way these stars um think of themselves, I think that 767 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: he had to he he went through the ringer a 768 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: little bit, he would be he would be the loser 769 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: of the Bears are winner in this situation, only because 770 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: he didn't get what he set out to get when 771 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: free agency started or whether he got what he thought 772 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: he was worth, which means more so I think that 773 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: he's a older I think he got lucky to get 774 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: that much and he landed on a good team, right. 775 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: That would make him the loser, though, But if he 776 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: he was lucky to get that much when he valued 777 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: himself so much higher, he came down lower on the book. 778 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm just happy his agent isn't gonna send any more 779 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: angry emails. Chris and I, Well, we don't know that. 780 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: We gotta win, win, win. If this is if he 781 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: is the loser and he's he don't cement against I 782 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm out of the wood yet. I 783 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: think Pastor basically just called the agent a loser. We 784 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: also don't know what the clients this agent has, and 785 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: in West is bound to insult one of them as well. 786 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: Before this whole thing wrap, Mark, what who's your choice? Um, 787 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I know, you know. We keep throwing 788 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: jabs at the Raiders left and right, but we did 789 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,479 Speaker 1: get a chance to. Greg was impressed with Dennis Allen 790 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: number one, and I got into a little group with 791 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: Reggie mackenzie where they were We're all hitting him with 792 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: questions I basically said at one point, how do you 793 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: do you admit that to a Raiders fan, it just 794 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: looks bizarre that you didn't re sign player x Y 795 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: and Z hughes in veil dear, and I thought the 796 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: Mackenzie you hear. Oh, he's intelligent, he's funny, he's got 797 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: his but we've seen all these things that make me think, really, 798 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: who is this guy? What's this team about? He came 799 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: across like a total champion. I thought that he one 800 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: question after the next, affably, very clearly went after the answer, 801 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: didn't shy away from anything. He was funny. He was 802 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: probably the funniest guy that we talked to the entire week. 803 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: I just liked him. I mean, I'm human. He won 804 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: me over. I thought he was interesting and he didn't 805 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: seem to be without a plan. He went through and 806 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: explained why they didn't do and why they did do things. 807 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: They all made sense to me. I'm with you on Alan, 808 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm impressed. I think he well. I thought, even going 809 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 1: into last year he could be a very good coach. 810 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: He is trying to make a nice meal out of 811 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,959 Speaker 1: some poor ingredients that the last regime in Oakland games. 812 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: All the ingredients are just a tad stale, right, a 813 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 1: little old. I don't know. At least the Raiders are 814 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: kind of like any football at least the Raiders are interesting. 815 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,919 Speaker 1: They'll be more interesting than most five and eleven teams. 816 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: They won one week, got the last fifty, Well Wesley 817 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: and who's your choice. The Eagles are a loser. You 818 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: lose the most dynamic member of your passing game and 819 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: replace him with the butt fumble. This is your net more. 820 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: He's more than a play. This is your net game 821 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: for the week. And not only that, but you've got 822 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: nothing in return for DeShawn Jackson. You put him on 823 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: the market and didn't get a draft pick or anything. 824 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: I feel like Brandon Moore really gets out, you know, 825 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: easy with the whole butt fumble thing. People remember him. 826 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: It was his button after he was just there. He 827 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,720 Speaker 1: got blocked backwards. Had it been a slighter, more lithe 828 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: like thinner, smaller, but it probably wouldn't have happened. The 829 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: word live makes its first appearance on the NFL podcast 830 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: My winner for the week, and this conversation only makes 831 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: this more true. Is the Around the League podcast is 832 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: the winner? I mean, we had patra here in the studio. 833 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 1: That's nice. I make things win. We had a great time. 834 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: Uh in Orlando, Mark and I not only went jogging together, 835 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: but we saw Anderson Cooper on that jog. I don't 836 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: know why. Well, we were a bit off course. Wouldn't 837 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 1: that be the perfect montage thing. We're like, they're running 838 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 1: slow motion together and then they just look over and 839 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: there's Anderson Cooper. Were asking and just as we were pondering, 840 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: have we gone off path? Should we find it? Anderson 841 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: Cooper hands in pockets. Nice Florida sunset stroll gives us 842 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: a wave sound like the dream sequence and have a 843 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: Gilmore where likeycle with two pictures of beer. Was very surreal. 844 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: And and then on top of that, when we were 845 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:59,479 Speaker 1: at the NFL owners party, a former general manager Mike 846 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: an and Bomb came up to us and told us 847 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: that he's a listener of the Around the League podcast. 848 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: Nice I beat him at the Super Bowl and he 849 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: was as nice as could be. Yeah, he was great. 850 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: A former two lane grad like myself. He went to 851 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: the you know, law school, the tough part, and I 852 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: was undergrad. But so you're saying he was a smart 853 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: one to say it. He's listening to them. If we're 854 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 1: getting people that are in the room with the NFL 855 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: owners and former general manager, they're starting to listen. He 856 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: wasn't He wasn't just good. He wasn't just you know, 857 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: talking win because he brought up his phone Click podcast 858 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: and was sitting right there as one of the two 859 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: that he downloads each week. So while we're dropping names, 860 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: I forgot to tell you guys that I am great 861 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,720 Speaker 1: Twitter friends with de Sean Jackson's mom. What Yeah, great started? 862 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: She started following me like four or five years ago, 863 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: and there was once upon a time where she would 864 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: wish me good morning, like for a week straight she 865 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: would see. She seemed as nice as can be. Some 866 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: news starting makes something of this. I met de Sean 867 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: Jackson's older brother last year when I interviewed him, and 868 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: he used to play for the Chiefs. He went to 869 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: like training camp with the Chiefs wing year and was 870 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: as nice as could be. Recuse not to deliver a 871 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: post about forty five minutes from now with a scop 872 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: date to the landing spots piece that is just a 873 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: hammer shorefire report. Well, they have no idea who I 874 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: am anymore. Probably maybe DeShawn Jackson now We know you're biased. 875 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: That's why the Eagles were losers this week. They seem 876 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: like an they they seem very nice. Plus the gold Standard, 877 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, spread his wings out. He made it obviously, 878 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: knows five different NFL teams. He gave a great suggestion 879 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: with the Seahawks, and he might be the winner of 880 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: four Delicious Sandwiches in the next few weeks. I think 881 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: that's it. We missed Dan, but he had a great 882 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: week as well, the first couple of shows of the 883 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 1: week while we were in Orlando, and he will be 884 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: back on Monday. Come back to us, Dan, We'll talk 885 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: about all the news over the weekend and we're doing 886 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: a little wind West's toast there on Monday. It got 887 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 1: delay aid one show, but we had to have Dan 888 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: here and he will be back in his Wink Martindale role. 889 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: So let's just I mean, I'm excited, you're excited, gold Standard, 890 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: a little nervous, a little excited. You gotta deliver some 891 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: good contestants this time. I have faith that you will. 892 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: So for the gold Standard. Kevin Patrick, coming at you, 893 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: the Sizzler. What is your nickname? Anyways, no one calls 894 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: the mail man. I'm Greg ros it doll, We'll see 895 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 1: you next time. This is gold.