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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show Ridiculous Historians and hopefully fellow animal lovers.

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Speaker 1: This episode is going to maybe knock your socks off,

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Speaker 1: or at least maybe you'll take your socks off while

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Speaker 1: you're listening to the podcast. Ben, are you what kind

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Speaker 1: of animal person are you? I'm pretty much every animal

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Speaker 1: person real, Yeah, except for the tales of rats and

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Speaker 1: possums bother me, but yeah, But other than that, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm super into pretty much every animal. So you're a

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Speaker 1: bit of a doctor Doolittle figure, yes, yes, but I

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Speaker 1: have been thinking about life lately, Nolan. Maybe I should

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Speaker 1: be a doctor do more so I don't get sued.

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Speaker 1: And that's very good. That's very good. I like what

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Speaker 1: you did there. I'm a cat person, I guess a

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Speaker 1: fair weather cat person. They kind of just they should

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Speaker 1: have drift around my periphery and they don't really bother

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Speaker 1: me too much. There's the occasional meal. I'm an indoor

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Speaker 1: outdoor cat person, so not as much of a do

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Speaker 1: little as you. But um, I really do appreciate your

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Speaker 1: your commitment to the animal kingdom. Oh man, where would

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Speaker 1: we be without animals? As a matter of fact, where

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Speaker 1: would we be without our superproducer Casey Pegram, who, if

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Speaker 1: ever an animal is probably only a party animal. He is,

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Speaker 1: he's he's like animal from the Muppet Show. He plays

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Speaker 1: drums about as as aggressively. This is this is true.

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Speaker 1: Casey is an incredible drummer. Yes, this is true. We

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Speaker 1: actually have a lot of very talented percussionists here at

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Speaker 1: how stuff works. Maybe we can get a drum circle

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Speaker 1: going on one day. However, today is not that day, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: but you know, fortunately for other reasons. Right, today is

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Speaker 1: another kind of very special day. As you can tell

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Speaker 1: from whatever we end up writing the title of this episode,

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Speaker 1: as we are exploring a very particular type of candidate,

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Speaker 1: political candidate. One thing that's great about this country almost

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Speaker 1: anybody can run for some sort of office. And one

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Speaker 1: thing that's great about this podcast is Noel and I

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Speaker 1: are not launching out on this endeavor alone. We are

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Speaker 1: joined by our returning guest, longtime friend of the show.

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Speaker 1: Uh fellow, ridiculous historians give it up for Christopher haciotis. Hey,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon, good evening. If you're listening in the evening,

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Speaker 1: good morning, we're waking you up. And if you are

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Speaker 1: sleeping to this podcast, just keep on sleeping. No, wake up,

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Speaker 1: wake up. I don't think this is a good sleeping

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Speaker 1: podcast because it's a little too frenetic, which you high energy,

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Speaker 1: a little ridiculous. Yeah, wake up. We could do an

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Speaker 1: a S m R. You know, lower the voice, quiet

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Speaker 1: st you want to talk about some animals? You know?

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Speaker 1: You know what I discovered the other day? What podcast?

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Speaker 1: It's called Sleep with Me? Have you heard of this?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Is that just a text you got? No? No, No,

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Speaker 1: it's a podcast. It's a guy who plays this character

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Speaker 1: named the Divine Scooter or something like that, and he

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Speaker 1: just tells weird, non sequitur stories in this very relaxing,

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Speaker 1: kind of an unplaceable accent, and it's just a delight.

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Speaker 1: So if you're looking for a podcast to sleep too,

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Speaker 1: I recommend Sleep with Me American Public Media. But not

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Speaker 1: this podcast. No, definitely not this podcast. So Christopher, earlier

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Speaker 1: you had given us this amazing idea. You gave us

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Speaker 1: a choice between two possible topics to explore, and the

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Speaker 1: one we ended up going with was the idea of

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Speaker 1: non human political candidates. Yeah, that's right. There are a

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Speaker 1: lot of ways that people around the world choose their leaders,

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Speaker 1: and one of the most popular in um. If you're

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Speaker 1: is to vote right. We we we put folks in

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Speaker 1: office that we as a whole decide will best represent

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I wanted to talk about non human electoral candidates

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Speaker 1: after we dug into the story of Hartleypool. Now, ridiculous historians,

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Speaker 1: monkey perhaps that washed ashore in Hartleypool, England. The Harleypool

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Speaker 1: the soccer team, and ended up becoming the mayor of Hartlepool. Now,

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Speaker 1: these weird, strange, ridiculous stories of things, of animals, of

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Speaker 1: we had this criteria. Well, they were successfully candidates, right,

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Speaker 1: But the sad part is when we set off, we're

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Speaker 1: you you you underestimate the ridiculousness of human history and

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Speaker 1: how seriously or not we're willing to take our political process.

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Speaker 1: That's true, and we found one of the very first

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Speaker 1: examples of this, which I think no you had looked into.

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Speaker 1: Oh I get to go first. Oh please, you're nominating me? Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think should we should we vote? I

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Speaker 1: for Nolan. I already did that. Will vote for myself. Perfect. Okay,

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Speaker 1: are we are we in agreement? Casey, what's hereby declare

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Speaker 1: it shall be nol? That's been case on the case.

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Speaker 1: you guys ever heard of Pegasus, the the Immortal pig Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Pegasus the Immortal? Did you say Pegasus? No, pigassus, my

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Speaker 1: on the other hand, was an actual pig, a spotted

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Speaker 1: The Yippies. Yep, yep, yep. You know these guys been

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Speaker 1: I am not terribly familiar with the Yippies. Well, they're

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Speaker 1: as they might have said, was kind of political theater, right,

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Speaker 1: Yippies kind of connected with UM a bunch of different people,

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Speaker 1: They were led by Abby Hoffman. He may know of

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Speaker 1: he was in Forrest Gump. He's a Forrest Gump fame.

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Speaker 1: They hung out. He always were like an American flag

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Speaker 1: you know, proponent of free love. Yeah exactly, yeah did

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Speaker 1: That really really is Yeah, Abby Hoffman, Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: the levitating of the Pentagon. Yeah, okay, now I remember

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Speaker 1: the Yippies in further detail, but I still have a question.

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Speaker 1: And the Yippies put forth a nominee for their party

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Speaker 1: But but here's the thing, it really didn't go over

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Speaker 1: they elected the foot Powder? Yes, yes, that's so. You

423
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: were there. You were there, Christopher, I've been to Texas.

424
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: You've been to Texas. But they also had their own

425
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: versions of local celebrities, and one of them was a

426
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: fellow named Clay Henry. Clay Henry, the first Clay Henry

427
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: hung around at the Lahita's trading post for years and years,

428
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: and in nine six he entered politics. His qualifications included

429
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: a love of alcohol, and the race for mayor was

430
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: organized by a man named Walter Mischer, who was Houston businessman,

431
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: and he thought, you know, it would be a good

432
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: promo thing, good pr right. Yeah, So so clay Henry

433
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: is getting involved in politics. It's a good name. It's

434
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: a good, solid kind of political name. I think it

435
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 1: is a great political name. You're right about that, Christopher.

436
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: But he was perhaps best known this goat for his

437
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: consumption of booze upwards of forty beers a day. I'm sorry, Ben,

438
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: can we rewind a bit? Did you say goat? Yes? Oh?

439
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: Did I not mention that? As in greatest of all time? Well,

440
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: at least in Texas. There's a couple of different levels. Yeah,

441
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: he's a goat. Wait a minute, all right, you you

442
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: buried the lead here. Clay Henry is a drunk, belligerent goat. Okay.

443
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: His qualifications include drinking a cartoonish amount of beer and

444
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: I quote, headbutting constituents without provocation. Not only is he

445
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: uh famous in this town, but he's he's famous in

446
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: the region. People would come to see, you know, to

447
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: have a beer with the mayor. And he was known

448
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: for walking around the trading posts and other places in town.

449
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: And if someone didn't hand him a beer, he would

450
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: just find some one and take it, find their drink

451
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: and take it. And there's a great article in the

452
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: Houstonia by Peter Holly that describes the experience with the

453
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: first Clay Henry in because he was mayor for essentially

454
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: the rest of his life. I never actually witnessed Clay

455
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: Henry drink a beer. I did see him slam them,

456
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: guzzled them, and ferociously ingest them at a rate capable

457
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: of incapacitating a full grown man in minutes. To see

458
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: it in person was nothing short of incredible. Do you

459
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: think a shotgun dam or funneled them to Yes, I could.

460
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: I could see a goat just just eating the whole

461
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: can just a full canopy, or just chomp, chomp, chomp.

462
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: So not only is he a physical goat, he is

463
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: also a goat greatest of all time when it comes

464
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: to being a goat that drinks. There there, there we go.

465
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: We got there. Yeah. So one of the questions you

466
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: would have is how does he drink without thumbs? They

467
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: are two answers. The first, there's a holster that they

468
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: fixed two in his office that you know, he could

469
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: put a bottle in it like a water feeder for

470
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: a hamster cage. And then sometimes he would just go

471
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 1: up to people and bug them until they got him

472
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: a Lone Star because of course it's a lone Star beer.

473
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 1: That's what he drinks. And he would polish off a

474
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: twelve ounce bottle in ten seconds or less. And here's

475
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: the thing. This guy was so popular that one of

476
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: his offspring was elected mayor later Clay Henry Jr. And

477
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: then Clay Henry Jr. Was so popular that they elected

478
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: a third goat mayor, Clay Henry the Third. Clay Henry

479
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: the Third unfortunately was involved in an altercation uh where

480
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: in a local who would probably been drinking or we

481
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: don't know if they had an argument, because all three

482
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: Clay Henry's are pretty heavy drinkers. Clay Henry three was

483
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: attacked ouch one of his testicle was cut off. He

484
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: stayed in office, of course, he did. Well, you know,

485
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: you don't need both testicles to stay in office, especially

486
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: if you're a goat. Right you get all the headbutting

487
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: done in your early days. Yeah, I mean, you know,

488
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: surely one goat testicle is like the equivalent of several

489
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: human testicles. I don't know why I think that, but

490
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: out there you mean in terms of like the yeah, exactly, yeah,

491
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: and just the sheer gumption that goats are very stubborn

492
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: and they eat like everything, and this goat surely was

493
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: no different. Also, goats have those weird snake octopus like Yeah,

494
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: favorite goat. I don't know about you guys, but my

495
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: favorite goat, Sorry Clay Henry, My favorite goat is and

496
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: will always be black Philip from The Witch. It's a

497
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: good one. I thought, maybe you're gonna go with Gregory

498
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: the Hungry Goat. There's there's a there's a spot up

499
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: in North Georgia called goats on the roof. Have you

500
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: guys been there goats on the roof. No, but there

501
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: is a place around here where you can rent a

502
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: goat to mow your lawn. Yeah, it's good business. Yeah,

503
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: my palace Scott Benjamin is actually a huge fan of

504
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: those guys. Okay, So we have a successful line of

505
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: goat mayors, the goat dynasty, the goat dynasty. We have

506
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: the foot powder candidate not elected, and we have the

507
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: pig president not elected, but we have more defined. I

508
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: want to see a runoff between the drunk goat and

509
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: the and pigasus. I don't know, man, that goat has

510
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: like has the political game locked down. Yeah, they know

511
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: how to play it. Was there an election. Every time,

512
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm picturing a goat on a deathbed, you know, kind

513
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: of wheezing its last breath and as it says good

514
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: bye to this mortal coil, passing along the mayoral responsibilities

515
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: to the next goat in line. Well, here's the thing.

516
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: The mayor, the position of mayor in this small town

517
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: contains no actual duties and responsibilities. I think the original

518
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: Clay signed one thing with a hoof, but essentially their

519
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: mayor is just their drink to drink beer, to drink beer.

520
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm sure there are a number of

521
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: towns around the country that would think something similar about

522
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: their own mayor. That's true, that's true. So what what's next?

523
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: What's our next animal? Oh boy, next one we get

524
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: to talk about my favorite Roman or gy uh connoisseurs

525
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: psychopathic emperor um, that kind of rhymed connoisseur and emperor.

526
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: Sure I got there with the rhyme scheme. UM by

527
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: the name of Caligula. Also one of my favorite UM,

528
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, fully pornographic um yet artistically rendered films, the

529
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: one in Esperanto. Huh wait is it? Is there a

530
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: version of it in Esperanto? Think it? Starr wat No, no, no, no,

531
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the one with Malcolm McDowell. That was

532
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: the one that was produced by like the publisher of Penthouse.

533
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. It's not really my favorite, but it

534
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: is in fact a pretty epic film with a giant

535
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: budget UM that depicts the life and times of the

536
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: Roman emperor Caligula, who had many predilections UM, including fondness

537
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: for coupling with his sisters. Basically just a total hedonist UM.

538
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: There's some stuff in the film that I don't know

539
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: if it actually happened, but there's a part where he's

540
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: buried his enemies up to their necks in the sand

541
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: and then has this crazy like threshing lawnmower head cutting

542
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: machine that just like goes over them and cuts all

543
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: their heads off. I'm gonna interrupt you real quick, Noe,

544
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: And I just want the listeners to know you were

545
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: making some amazing hand motions right now, sweeping back and forth,

546
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: sort of like I wish everyone could see this, maybe

547
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: some sort of like a like a gift or a boomerang,

548
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: maybe social media. We know we didn't get better at that.

549
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: We need to do more like real time podcast studio

550
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: hijinks talking about Caligula sweeping my arms back and forth.

551
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: And I could just get somebody in here to film

552
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: us while we were recording this. We mean, we could

553
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: recruit somebody from our socials. Have to put on pants,

554
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: but you know what, that's a um no, it's fine,

555
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: but it's a it's a sort of a waste up view.

556
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: That's a hill I'm willing to die on for the

557
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: good of the show. Now, speaking of dying on hills,

558
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: um that probably happened a lot in Calligula's day in

559
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: terms of his enemies, because he was pretty brutal, and

560
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: one of his main group of enemies was the Senate,

561
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: because he was always constantly beefing with the Senate because he,

562
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, was basically like trying to be a complete

563
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: and utter totalitarian ruler, and you know, they still kind

564
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: of had a semblance of a little thing called democracy

565
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: or at least what was it, like a republic right

566
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: in rome Um. So he was not fond of the Senate.

567
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: And in fact, the legend has it this is this

568
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: is a little unconfirmed, but there's there's a few historical

569
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 1: counts of this happening. He had a horse that he

570
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: was quite fond of, a horse with this the doozy

571
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: of a name. We see, if I can like, if

572
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: I can do this one a horse by the name

573
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: of Incitatus. It's actually not that hard. But when you

574
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: look at it, you built it up. I'm I'm excited.

575
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm so glad. There's more. So. This is his favorite horse.

576
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: He loved this horse. He loved it more than he

577
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: loved probably any human person in his life, to the

578
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: point where he got this horse had it fashioned a

579
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: jeweled collar. Um. He even like had like a special

580
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: like manger built out of ivory for it. He had

581
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: a stall made out of marble um and and supposedly

582
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: some accounts say that he bought him as a very

583
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: own house. So that's a lot of stuff you gotta made.

584
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: Also heard you own slaves though the horse did. Yeah,

585
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: that's one of the accounts. Can a horse really own

586
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: anything though? I mean it's a great question. Yeah, it's

587
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: the own Collius heart. He did own Colligula's heart, And

588
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: apparently he was fed with food with the gold flakes

589
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: built mixed in and stuff, you know, because gold is

590
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: important to consume for for animals. Colligula was a big

591
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: fan of consuming or at least bathing in gold himself.

592
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: He's a very pro gold guy. He is very pro excess.

593
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: And a big part of this was he was constantly

594
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: thumbing his nose at the poor and just like you know,

595
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: one to just be as decade and as possible, display

596
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: it as openly as possible with his little shame zero shame,

597
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: as it turns out, as possible. And another thing he

598
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: liked to do was humiliate the Senate because they were

599
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: like his nemeses. You know, these these senators, these puffy,

600
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, stuffed shirt senators. So supposedly he put forth

601
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: in titat us to become a console, like an officials

602
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: an official console. But he's a horse. He's a horse.

603
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter because it's a very special horse

604
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: in doubt now, you know, surely endowed with the same

605
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: amount of wisdom that any of these you know, lifelong

606
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: politicians possess, at least according to Caligula. And a big

607
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: part of this was obviously to kind of humiliate them

608
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: and say, you know, a horse could do your job,

609
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: you morons, and you're gonna like it. You're gonna take it,

610
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: and you're gonna you're gonna he's gonna live amongst you,

611
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: and he's gonna vote. He's gonna hold up his hoof you.

612
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: That's how he's going to vote. Obviously. Um, But apparently

613
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: this did not go through because Caligula was was just

614
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: universally hated for obvious. Yeah, he was just kind of

615
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: a he's kind of a bad guy what with the

616
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: thresherd head chopping machines and the crazy Roman orgies with sisters,

617
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: and he just wasn't a wasn't a good look for

618
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: this guy. That's funny how that can turn the people off.

619
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: The chopping off of heads and such. Yeah, you would

620
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: think it was just a different time. But I like

621
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: to think. I know this is not true, folks, but

622
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: I like to think that the horse becoming console was

623
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: the last straw. I feel like the horse burn is

624
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: what set everyone over the edge. Horse burn, horse burn.

625
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: I like that you elected a horse or you pointed

626
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: a horse to burn his enemies, So it's a horseburn.

627
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the move horse bites the corn? No,

628
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: I am mystified. It's when you it's when you take

629
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: your when you take your hand and make it into

630
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: a C shape. I'm in it right now. And then

631
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: you grab someone right above the knee and you go

632
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: horse bites the corn. And it's the most annoying thing.

633
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: Is this? Is this a brown family? You know? It's

634
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: just it's maybe it's just my friend Tyler. It's a

635
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: thing that he does to me all the time, and

636
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: I hate it. I hate it. I hate it and

637
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: it gets a rise out of me every time. Why

638
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: do you It's a very strange relationship. It is a

639
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: very strange relationship. Maybe google it and see if other

640
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: people do it, because it sounds like he's just making

641
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: up reasons to grab you. Wow, you're right, it's not

642
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: it is it is? Well, okay, so yeah, what's it

643
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: called when you squeeze just above someone's knee. It's called

644
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: a horse bite that or a horse bites corn. That

645
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: guy is making this up, so okay, horse bites aside.

646
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: Caligula super unpopular. He was assassinated, he he died, and

647
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: so the horse did not ascend to the consulate. Right.

648
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: It was before the horse was able to get in,

649
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: which is a shame. Will never know how history would

650
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: have changed. I would have liked to see the horse's

651
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: fiscal policy, you know, play out in the in the Senate.

652
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: I would like to see it bite some cord, you know.

653
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: I'd like to see the horse out there pressing the flesh,

654
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: kissing the babies, given complicated speeches, having political intrigue. I'm

655
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: getting carried away, Christopher, what's next? I we we need

656
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: a stick on the horse for one second more, because yeah,

657
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: I want to hear a horse put things up for

658
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: a vote. I want to know if the horse is

659
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: going to vote ya or or yeah, it was absolutely sorry,

660
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: I had to do it. Yeah, absolutely, were required contractually

661
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: to do that day. It's the reason I'm here. And

662
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: you're in fact a dad now, so you're allowed to

663
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: You're in the the exclusive camp of of the dad

664
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: joke elite. It's the US jokes. Yeah exactly. And you

665
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: know people say politics these days are just a horse race. Yeah,

666
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. Let's right. I'm gonna bring

667
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: us from the Roman Empire back to modern times so

668
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: we can debate how historical this is, but it's part

669
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: of modern history. I want to tell you guys about dustin,

670
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: dust in the wind, No, dustin the Turkey. Yes, dustin

671
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: the Turkey is not actually even a turkey. Dustin the

672
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: Turkey is a Turkey vulture. But dustin the Turkey is

673
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: not even a Turkey vulture. Dustin the Turkey is a

674
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: puppet turkey vulture. Yeah. So, one of the fun things

675
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: I think about traveling the world is you get to

676
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: see pieces of pop culture that are so deeply in

677
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: mestion other countries that you've never heard of. You know,

678
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: folks come to the States and they're like, what is

679
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: this purple dinosaur Barney, Like it's confusing, go to Ireland

680
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: will be confronted with Dustin the Turkey. So Dustin the

681
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: Turkey is is a character. He's a television presenter. He's

682
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: a puppet who was on TV. He made his debut

683
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: in ninety nine on the show That Den was on RTE,

684
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: which is kind of the Irish version of PBS. Here

685
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: is it the kind of publicly funded broadcasting. Um. Dustin

686
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: the Turkey was on the show until two thousand ten.

687
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: And I want to paint a picture for you of

688
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: dust In the Turkey. Imagine a cloth creature that looks

689
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: like a mix of Gonzo from the Muppets with Bernie

690
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: Sanders kind of you know Statler and Waldorf, the two

691
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: cranky guys also in the Muppets. Yeah, imagine Statler. He's

692
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: the one with kind of the ring of hair around

693
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: his head, that sort of Bernie Sanders, Larry David Hairstyle. UM,

694
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: cross him with Gonzo the Muppets, big weird beak and

695
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: you get a cranky, strange, odd Turkey puppet. Now Dustin

696
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: the Turkey. He's he's very specific kind of Turkey. He's

697
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: from Dublin and he spent a lot of time. He's

698
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: kind of a roust about. He's got a strong attitude

699
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: and he loves his city so much. He speaks out

700
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: specifically as an advocate for Dublin itself. He's got a

701
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: very strong Dublin accent. And I think, Casey, if you

702
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: could queue up the sound bite we've got from Dustin himself.

703
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: He brought a clip. I brought a clip. That's why

704
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: I'm here, over achiever, not just jokes Dublin. Sure don't.

705
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: We have the biggest rock and roll band in the world. Yeah, alright, UK, okay,

706
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: and we have James Joyce, Yeah, the bell Jimmy Joyce,

707
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: brilliant form with Glen Hansard. Okay, he might watch, but

708
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: listen he did once. And that's that's Dustin the Turkey

709
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: is he voiced by Colin Farrell. He's a doublinger through

710
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: and through, but he's he's deeply Irish, so much Southern.

711
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: In seven, Dustin ran for President of Ireland. Oh cool? Yeah,

712
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: how far did he get? He did not get far

713
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: at all. In fact, he had troubles with getting on

714
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: the ballot because Dustin is a one named guy. He's

715
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: just he's just dust In the Turkey. And you've got

716
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: to have two names to get on a ballot. That

717
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: was what That was the technicality. He worked his way

718
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: around it by listing himself as Dustin Hoffman. Oh great,

719
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: So it wasn't that okay, so able to overcome that

720
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: bureaucratic obstacle, and that was apparently more important than the

721
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: fact that someone has their hand inside of him in

722
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: his orchestrating his movement. He is truly a puppet, political puppet.

723
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: But the thing is, Dustin went nowhere in that candidacy

724
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: nor a subsequent one for president. However, in two thousand eight,

725
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: I've got to ask you guys. Are you guys familiar

726
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: with the Eurovision Song Contest? Yes, i am. No. That's

727
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: a thing for yeah, yah yeah. It's sort of like

728
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: America's got talent, isn't it? Yeah, super huge, super popular.

729
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: So Ireland is a country known for its song It's story,

730
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: It's it's oral tradition. I've got all this great music

731
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: from Ireland. Ireland is actually the winningest country on the

732
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: Eurovision Song Contest. Yeah, for for decades, They've won seven times.

733
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: Sweden is number two with six wins, but Ireland tops

734
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: it with seven wins. One of those wins however, was

735
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: not in two thousand eight, and this is where Dustin

736
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: comes in. So the way that you Revision Song Contest

737
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: works is every country has its own kind of championship

738
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: round where five or six songs from that country are

739
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: voted on locally. All those um the winning songs from

740
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: each country then go to the finals wherever that is

741
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: every year, and then Europe as a whole and parts

742
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: of North Africa in the Middle East vote on who

743
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: the winning song is that year. In two thousand eight,

744
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: the champion in Ireland, the one who beat out actual

745
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: musicians like Maya, like Donald ski In, like Liam Gettis,

746
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: was Dustin the Turkey. Yeah, so in two thousand eight,

747
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: Dustin the Turkey was the Ireland representative in the Eurovision

748
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: Song Contest. His song Ireland dues point Uh it's a

749
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: really dumb name that me kind of is a mispronunciation

750
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: of Ireland twelve points in French, which is the number

751
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: of points needed to win this the Eurovision Song Contest.

752
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: So saying the name or the title of the song

753
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: would sound like someone is saying that Ireland had one,

754
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: but it didn't. Anyway, this competition, this election is what

755
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: Dustin the Turkey one, and you can actually go on

756
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: YouTube you can find his performance at Eurovision. Did not

757
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: win at all overall, um, but it's this weird psychedelic

758
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: nonsense song about the competition itself. It's sort of meta textual.

759
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: Dustin the Turkey is sitting inside of a shopping cart

760
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: with backup dancers painted in gold dancing next to him.

761
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: There was some confusion among the judges. Well, I would

762
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: imagine there's a lot of confusion among the judges whether

763
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: he should be disqualified because you're only supposed to have

764
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: a certain number of people on stage for your performance.

765
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: And did the puppeteer actually count as an extra person?

766
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: And so did Dustin the Turkey actually violate the Eurovision

767
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: Song Contest rules by having a man hidden under the

768
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: cart with his hand up his butt? Something we all

769
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: want to know and I haven't. Oh yeah, puppet, they

770
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: got it right, Yeah, it's a puppet. So what happens

771
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: to Dustin the Turkey later? Is he still around? Dustin?

772
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: Is still around? Dustin? He did not win the finals

773
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: in the Eurovision Song Contest, but he did then go

774
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: on to campaign that next year against the Lisbon Treaty,

775
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: which was an EU policy treaty. Uh so, Dustin has

776
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: been involved in political life. He went on to record

777
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: with UM release albums with artists like Ronnie Drew of

778
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: the Dubliners, Bob Geldoff of the Boomtown Rats. Uh yeah.

779
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: And you know you can still use the hashtag vote

780
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: Dustin to look up what's going on with the Poultry Party,

781
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: which is Dustin's official group. Dustin also is taking things global.

782
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: He became a UNICEF ambassador for Ireland. This ugly, foulmouthed,

783
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: crass little puppet and he went to South Africa to

784
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: the Quasulin Natal region to learn about the plight of

785
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: people with HIV and AIDS, positive change through comedy. Yeah

786
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: so he he won an election, he lost an election.

787
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: He's a weird puppet, um, but he's got the people

788
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: behind him. It's not even an animal. He's now officially

789
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: my favorite Key Buzzard because I just I said at

790
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: the beginning, I love animals, but those things freaked me out.

791
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: Turkey Buzzards. How about puppets? How do you feel aboutuppets?

792
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Pro puppet? Yeah? Yeah, and you got a pet puppet?

793
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: Don't you have a puppet? Yeah? You pet? Unfair to

794
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: Stephen companion is technically an intern. Steven really formal with him.

795
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: Now I thought it was Steve. He's earned he's earned

796
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: that second syllable pH V pH. Okay, there was a

797
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: moment of tense silence between us. Just now. I hope

798
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: we're still friends. We are. And uh, if you're out

799
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: there listening, if you're a Stephen with a pH, if

800
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: you're a Stephen with a V, We're happy to have

801
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: all of you. Yeah, thanks for hanging out. Well, maybe

802
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: we can put a put a picture of the puppet

803
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: on the on the social media's one day this. This

804
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: is interesting though, that we're talking about a political party,

805
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: because this is not my second thing. But this reminds

806
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: me of the Inanimate Objects Party. Did you guys hear

807
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: about this. It's a It's a party that is based

808
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: in Troy, New York, and their main thing is that

809
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: we should elect more inanimate objects in political office. Their

810
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: main candidate is an inflatable whale named Arthur Galpin, and

811
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: there are other major candidate is an albinos squirrel. Their symbol,

812
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: their formal symbol is a fork, but check them out.

813
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: But that squirrel is is not an inanimate object. So

814
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm already seeing some flaws in there in their policy.

815
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: I think they're a fractured party, to be honest with you.

816
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: But well, you're saying that it's not a serious thing,

817
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: that the people who put forth inflatable whales are not

818
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: taking this process seriously. Perhaps I'm saying comedy is in

819
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: the eye of the beholder. Fair enough. God, I hope

820
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: they take it really seriously. Um. But this, this leads

821
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: us to um. An example of when these animals, or

822
00:46:54,840 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: these non human candidates become a matter of very serious, important,

823
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: non comedic stuff, and this story takes us to Brazil

824
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: is the story of a female black rhinoceros named Cocareco.

825
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: Cacareco was in nineteen fifty eight. She was residing at

826
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: the dim zoological do Rio de jan Arrow. I am

827
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: not a Portuguese speaker, but you could be. Yeah, I

828
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: just have to try harder. So Cockreco was the daughter

829
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: of Brittador and Terra Zena, and in nineteen fifty eight

830
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: she was loaned out to the sal Polo Zoo. People

831
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: knew about this rhinoceros and they didn't say particularly kind

832
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: things about her. In the case of the drunk goat, mayor.

833
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: People like the drunk goat, They like the bit he

834
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: hangs out, he has a beer, maybe a whiskey. I

835
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: don't know who knows, But in the case of Cocareco,

836
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: people would say this rhino is dumb as a door nail,

837
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: as the brains of a peanut, and is still the best,

838
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: uh still like the best possible political candidate. So a

839
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: group of students print over two hundred thousand ballots with

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Speaker 1: Coco Raiko's name on them, and the ballots are all

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Speaker 1: legitimately cast by voters. One person, because you could write

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Speaker 1: in this is the right and election. One person said

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Speaker 1: better to elect a rhino than an ass. You see,

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Speaker 1: this election was the result of serious and valid concerns

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Speaker 1: about rampant corruption in the Brazilian political scene, especially in

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Speaker 1: Sal Paulo. And not only did she end up winning,

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Speaker 1: she won by a landslide, and it was one of

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Speaker 1: the highest totals for a local candidate in Brazil's history

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Speaker 1: to that date, which is weird because we also have

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Speaker 1: to point out. People who are familiar with the way

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Speaker 1: voting goes in the US will know that our country's

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Speaker 1: notorious for a lot of people just not voting it's

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Speaker 1: way way worse in Brazil, or it was at that time,

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Speaker 1: and so this was a way to get people engaged

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Speaker 1: or were they protesting the actual people who were on

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Speaker 1: the ballot. Both both Brazil seemed at the time, according

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Speaker 1: to some sociologists, to be on the threshold of revolt.

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Speaker 1: It was seen as a general protest from people who

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Speaker 1: had varying different objections to the way things were going.

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Speaker 1: There were food shortages, the cost of living was going up.

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Speaker 1: Of course, political corruption, as we already meant, uh, and

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Speaker 1: some voters there were actually multiple forms of protests. Some

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Speaker 1: voters in the same election voted in local politics by

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Speaker 1: putting black beans in the ballot envelope instead of the

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Speaker 1: actual ballot. So this is kind of a way for

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Speaker 1: people to say, our choices are so poor, we would

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Speaker 1: rather have not just a rhinoceros, but a damas beans rhinoceros. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and Calcaico dies in sixty two, but her legacy lives

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Speaker 1: on today. Uh. There's a widely used term that derives

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Speaker 1: from her name. They think you you've heard about before,

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Speaker 1: Voto cocareco, which means cocarego vote. It's kind of it's

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Speaker 1: almost like kangaroo court, but it's a rhino vote. And

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Speaker 1: she also inspired the formation of the Rhinoceros Party of Canada,

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Speaker 1: whose members went on to appoint the Rhinoceros Cornelius the

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Speaker 1: First as their leader. You know what a rhino is

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Speaker 1: in American politics, Republican in name only. It's not like

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Speaker 1: the perfect acorym. But I'm as fond of acronyms in general,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's about me. And there's something

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Speaker 1: about Brazil I think, like, I think they have fun

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Speaker 1: with their politics there too, because I think in the

881
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Speaker 1: eighties or nineties there was a monkey who ran for office,

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Speaker 1: Macaco Chiao, who was a chimpanzee. You know what. That

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Speaker 1: was on one of the lists for for this, uh,

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Speaker 1: this whole thing that we're doing, this crazy experiment. I

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Speaker 1: think we really need a part two, guys. I think

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Speaker 1: we should come back for a part two because we

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Speaker 1: did pretty well, but we only had a total of

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Speaker 1: six and then maybe a couple of ancillary mentions. Why

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Speaker 1: do they call a kangaroo court because in the early

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Speaker 1: days of the formation of Australia, all judicial positions were

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Speaker 1: occupied by kangaroos. Of course, I don't believe it they

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Speaker 1: were Wallabies Wallabies. You're right, nobody gives enough credit to

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Speaker 1: the Wallabies role in the creation of Australian government. But

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Speaker 1: maybe we can in part two if it actually happened.

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Speaker 1: We can't just make up a Wallaby story. Christopher. We

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Speaker 1: want to thank you so much for coming back on

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Speaker 1: this show. It's always a blast to have you over. Hey.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me here, guys, and thank you everyone

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Speaker 1: for listening. Um. I really love digging into these weird,

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Speaker 1: ridiculous facts and sharing them with everyone. And we have

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00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: not seen the last of you. Spoiler alert. If if

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Speaker 1: Casey Nolan I have our way, you will be returning

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00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: to the show. It's sometime sooner rather than later. This

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Speaker 1: could be like a recurring episode. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: like this, there were so many more that we got

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Speaker 1: to or maybe we could just do other list episodes

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Speaker 1: like this in the future. I would like to get

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Speaker 1: an animal and see if we can get it in

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Speaker 1: office or at least in the running for a position

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, or maybe we could at the very least

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Speaker 1: have one as a guest on the podcast. I yeah, see,

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Speaker 1: I thought you just said I would like to get

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Speaker 1: an animal in the office and I thought you were

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Speaker 1: going to bring a rhinoceros here into the studio. I'm

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Speaker 1: also open to that, at least an inflatable whale. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at least in it. See see this is cut from

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Speaker 1: the same cloth. Yeah, cut from the same same inflatable cloth.

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Speaker 1: We hope that you enjoyed checking out this episode. Right

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Speaker 1: to us and let us know if there are any

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Speaker 1: notorious animal or at least non human politicians in your

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Speaker 1: neck of the global woods, thinks of course, to our

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Speaker 1: super producer Casey Pegram. Thanks to Alex Williams, who composed

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Speaker 1: our theme, and Eve's Jeff Code, who is not here,

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Speaker 1: but it's also an incredible UH research associate for UM

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Speaker 1: this show, along with our illustrious guest Christopher hasiotis who

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Speaker 1: I can thank for the first time and the first

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Speaker 1: time I thank you for stuff, but in person, it's

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Speaker 1: nice here. I am a human touch. Yeah, thanks thanks Ben,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Casey of course, of course, so find us on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: find us on Facebook, find us on Twitter. Post your

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Speaker 1: favorite pictures of non human politicians. These questions are becoming

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Speaker 1: increasingly specific as we continue with the show. I love it,

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Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, post some We'll see if we

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Speaker 1: can get someone to start filming in the studio as

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Speaker 1: we record, and uh, stay tuned for our next episode,

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Speaker 1: which is it's about a Napoleon thing. It is, it's

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Speaker 1: we don't want he really is. He's done a lot

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Speaker 1: for this show, you guys. I know he's not perfect,

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Speaker 1: but he has done a heck of a lot for

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Speaker 1: our show.