WEBVTT - A.Chic 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.760 R and B Money. 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:05.880 We are. 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:10.160 Thanks take vologized. 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:15.640 We are the authorities, R. 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:21.280 And B Ladies and General Jay Valentine and this is 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:26.360 the R and B Money Podcast in today. You know 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:31.320 what they say, black people can't swim, but I know 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:36.080 they can as I can. And somebody writes about swimming 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:42.240 and she's black. So are you hooligans act normal today? 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:44.279 Okay, not. 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.279 From Florida, and you know how South Florida get out 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.800 without further ado, I'm going to introduce you to someone 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.840 that is very special. Today we are We're gonna do 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:01.480 something a little different. We're gonna go behind veil and 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:07.400 introduce you to an amazing singer songwriter, rapper Doug. 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:10.360 And the mosquitoes be chasing her down. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:14.000 It's a hell of a intro. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:20.880 He you, thank you, thank you. I'm glad. 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.120 I'm glad you talk about black people know how to 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.040 so I can write about swimming, but I can't swim. 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.800 So no. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.199 Jamaican girl from South Florida they can't swim? 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:38.959 What's new? It's whole time you Dine wrote this huge record. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.880 Hey man, Babyface said seventy percent of the songs he 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:43.160 wrote had nothing to do with his life. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.400 I'm just studying the greats and being greater. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.680 You're gonna have to learn how to swim. That record 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:53.520 is too massive, It's true, too massive. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.800 And for my extra black audience who don't know what 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:00.440 we're talking about this yet, we talked about from the 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:06.080 biggest records in the world, Craig in the world, bts 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.560 as your kids, your kids know, all the kids know. 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.280 Swim is massive and this young lady can't swim. But 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.200 we you know what, We're gonna get to that. We're 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:18.720 gonna get to that. How are you doing today. I'm good, 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:20.000 you look amazing. 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.280 I'm happy to be here. I'm so happy to be here. 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:23.959 Thank you. 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.080 This is this is like I said in the intro, 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:31.360 this is really important because the reason we started this 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:35.519 show was to shine light on all facets of the 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:39.000 music business and the entertainment industry. And obviously, yes, our 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:40.959 show is called R and B Money, so everybody thinks 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:42.280 it always has to be RB R. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.160 No, no, no, no, that's. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.080 The name of our company, and that's really why we named. 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.120 Show R and B Money. You know what I mean. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:54.840 But people like yourself are so important, you know, just 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:59.480 to our industry and the reason why our industry is 0:02:59.520 --> 0:02:59.960 doing so well. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.280 Thank you. Everybody be trying to lie talking about a 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.400 no money in the music business. Damn lie that ship somewhere, 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:06.160 it's somewhere. 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.880 We just gotta find We just gotta find it, right, So, 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.520 so thank you, Thank you, first, first, and foremost. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:14.919 You know what I mean. And I know you. 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.399 You know you're moving into a new space. You're gonna 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.160 move into this artist space. We're gonna get to that. 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.360 But let's start in South Florida. 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:29.880 Yeah, little chic, little she, little little Chrissy. 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:32.680 Give me some you know, give me, give me, give 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.920 me some of the journey. How does how did this 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:36.800 whole thing kick off for you? As far as you 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:42.120 just wanting to be this entertainer and being this music business? 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:43.640 You know what. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.240 I so, I've just always been a writer, Okay. I 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.600 won my first writing contest when I was like seven seven? 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:55.040 Yeah, who decided to enter you? Or did you enter yourself? 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:56.720 I had a teacher I wrote it was like a 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:00.080 short story contest. I wrote a story about like this 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.720 bear that sold some honey from some bees and they 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.720 called him and put him on trial and found him guilty. 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.160 So you was growing up and the trap is you listen. 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:14.680 So Sugar Bear himself was slang in that you feel me, 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:16.880 it was, you know, and he went. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.880 To jail, okay, and he went to jail. And so 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.240 I just always been a writer. I just was always. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:27.120 I'm an aquary. So I'm really just like you like 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.400 an aquarius, that that's an aquarius. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.360 But I'm the water bearer, not a water sign. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.400 Okay, all right, all right, I don't know about it, 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:37.320 but let you talk. 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:42.120 So I just I was always a writer. And I'm 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.200 the baby of eight. So I have six older sisters 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:49.559 and an older brother, and everybody had different musical tastes. 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.200 So I was just kind of like running around the 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:55.000 house and you know, one room would be playing Outcast 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.320 and one room is playing you know, more East Coast 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:01.000 hip hop, and one room is playing like you know whatever, 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.919 older motown or this and that that they liked. And 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.360 my mom she really loved like Barris Hammon and like 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.000 Elton John and stuff like that. 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:10.480 So then I would get some of that. 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.520 So I was just a sponge, you know what I mean, 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:17.359 just like soaking things up. And then I would just 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.200 like try to like write songs. And I just vividly 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.760 remember like listening to certain artists and like trying to 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:25.680 mimic them, like just you know. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.360 So that was the radio, was your teacher? Oh? 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.120 Absolutely the radio. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.320 And and just like albums, Like my sisters they were 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:38.320 obsessed with albums. Excuse me, they were obsessed with albums. 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.000 So they would always be like listening to the music 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.040 and stuff, and I would just be there, like listen, 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.680 and the stuff they were listening to, I'd get my 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.920 ass will if I was listen to it by myself, so, 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.600 you know, and they're at school, I'm like, oh, just 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.200 go sneaking their home real quick, and you know, and 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.760 like listen and and then I think I just kind 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.200 of like the funny thing about me when I listened 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:03.279 to music, I never listened to music for the technicality. 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.000 I always listened for the feeling. 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.600 So I noticed I noticed very early on that I 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:14.440 was trying to mimic feeling. So like whether it was 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:19.040 the aggression in the delivery or like you know what 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.440 I mean, just the pain or the yearning or the 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:25.200 happiness or the joy or the whatever it was. I 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.400 realized that I was more trying to mimic that than 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.440 anything else, not really like the technical things, the technical 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.200 things for me just kind of came along with it. 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.120 But I noticed that and this is just for me 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.480 that I was more fascinated by how things made people 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.040 feel or made me feel, and I tried to imitate that. 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:48.640 So how was your first song? Do you remember it? Yes? 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.920 I was twelve and I wrote it in science class 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:56.000 Missus Bullard, and she damn sure, I took my paper, 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:57.760 and I know, I said, I'm crazy to that lady. 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.640 Oh he's beef al what her about to absolutely bitch? 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:01.320 Give me my paper. 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.839 Oh I ain't say bitch, but that's how you felt. 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:05.520 That's how I felt. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.760 Yeah, like, don't be reading my shit? So did she 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:08.520 read it to the class? 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.480 So she just no, she just took it, OK, she 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.120 just took it. And like, so what was this song about? 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.560 It was just I don't even remember, like I remember 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.320 the song, but like the subject matter was like it's 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.600 probably just me like trying to like be you know, saucy, 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.720 just like trying to like flex or some crap or whatever. 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:29.000 But I didn't nobody really knew that I could write 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:33.120 or sing or rap or anything till I was like seventeen. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:37.080 Oh, so five year span I was owning. 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.720 That little craft by myself, like I just and I 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.040 would just write books and books and books and songs. 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.080 And then I used to spend all excuse me, I 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.720 used to spend all my summers in Jamaica. So I 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:50.280 would go to Jamaica and telling my cousins like there 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.640 was like songs that wanted radio popular songs or whatever. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:53.960 And I'd be telling my cousins like. 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:54.400 You wrote it. 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.400 You notice my song? Oh my god, like hell yeah, 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.480 be performing it and everything. You had to see me 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:00.920 one crazy. 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.440 Yeah, I wrote you should let me love you absolutely what. 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:06.000 Yeah? 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.680 I mean they don't, yeah, because I'm right that, yes 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:10.640 she did. 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.280 It was a time, okay, line my ass off on 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:15.120 summer vacation was. 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.120 Literally going on vacation to your family house telling them 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.520 you wrote all these and how are you this point sixteen? 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:23.960 Oh no, this was way before that. I was probably 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.440 like eleven. Oh shit, like yeah. 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:27.840 This is a thing. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.720 I was like again, and I was telling my cousins like, yeah, 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.520 these are my songs. I mean they're like eight and nine. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.040 So like just over there, line my ass off. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.520 But you know you're speaking into existence. 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.199 I mean that's what we're gonna call it now, yeah, 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.440 you know what I mean, that's what. 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:44.640 We call it now. 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.880 But so that was just a lot of I guess 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:50.360 early artists development. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:51.960 Yeah, and then. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:59.600 I never took I really wasn't taking music serious. Like 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.280 I did everything but music. 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.840 So I was what are the other things you were doing? 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:12.400 You were who sent you? 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.240 Oh hang out? 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.839 Yeah, I'm joking, no, but I did, like. 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:19.920 Florida City Girl herself is here. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:26.280 Look man, listen, we don't judge, but no, I mean, 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:31.520 like at least you honestly. But you know, like when 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.559 I was in high school, I duel enroll college and 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.199 high school and I got like a degree in child 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.880 development while I was getting my high school diploma. And 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:39.760 then so I did work as like a teacher for 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.800 like a short period and then I would just be like, oh, 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:44.920 I'm going to like dip in music and dip out 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.640 and then I would like do music on the artist's 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.680 side and then just stop. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.360 And then at one point. 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:57.000 I had quit music for probably about like five years years. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.360 I didn't do nothing like like before that. I was 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:04.120 like really like going crazy on my artist stuff, and 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:08.200 I was like performing overseas and doing all the things. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.560 And then I just got fed up and I just stopped. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.520 Oh so you had motion with it and everything. 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.600 And I just quit because I was just fed up. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:20.560 Why I think I had gotten to a place where 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.319 I had carried myself as far as I could go. 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.679 And one thing about us as artists, we will dey 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:31.960 ourselves to death, like that whole shit about Oh yeah, 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.840 like I did all this shit. That shit is not 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:38.079 a flex Like I don't believe in burnout culture. I 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.160 don't believe. I mean, I believe I'm a hard worker, 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:44.480 don't get me wrong, but for me, it's like I'm you. 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:48.240 You can you can work yourself to a point where 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.080 you're just busy and not productive. 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.280 It's the hamster wheel. 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.240 And I feel like I had kind of gotten to 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.960 that place where I was just doing shit. And it's 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.040 not that it wasn't it. It's not that things weren't 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.440 like moving, because they were. But it's like as things 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.520 are growing, it's like things are growing, but my teethes 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.560 isn't growing because I'm still trying to balance everything on 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.319 my own and I didn't know how to ask for help. 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.880 And the people that the people that I would ask 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.840 for help, it was like they can't help you, you know, 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.760 so I just got annoyed and was like, fuck this shit, 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:22.320 I'm done. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:26.440 And at this point, purely artists. You're not writing for 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:27.000 other people. 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:28.080 I didn't know that was a thing. 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.600 Wait, but you told your people you were. 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:32.320 No, no, no, no, no, I did it. 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:37.560 Hold on, hold on, see that right there, that's me 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.360 just lying at like age eleven. 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.599 But real shit that I did. I did it. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:49.040 Songwriting was an occupation. I didn't know that I fell 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.760 into songwriting. I didn't actively pursue songwriting. 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.280 So South Florida really is its own world. 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.320 Absolutely, Huh. 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.360 You did not know that that was occupation, This is 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:01.800 something you could do with your life. 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.120 No, I thought that you had to. I thought the 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:09.240 artist was everything right. I didn't know that, Like there's 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.440 a room of people, and I didn't, and hence why 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.120 I ended up getting burnt out. I didn't understand the 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:18.760 collaborative process. I didn't understand that things take a team. 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:20.440 I didn't understand that. 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.600 Did you not know anyone who had ever been in 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:23.760 a music business at this point? 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.080 No, I don't come from a background of music. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.160 I come from a background of hustlers and hard workers, 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.120 you know, like I'm Jamaican, you know, they about us 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.920 were gonna have five jobs minutes. I can, That's what 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:40.040 I But you know, so I come from hard workers, 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.320 but I don't come from like this musical background. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.400 I'm the first in my family. 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:48.160 How did your family take to that? 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.440 I have the most supportive family on this planet. My 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.199 family is fucking incredible. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.679 My mother is If I tell my mama, I'm jumping 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.920 off a bridge, she gonna be like, well, it looked 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.160 kind of high, but metrust you. 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.480 She's gonna be like, where should I be? Stand over there? 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:05.480 You want me to film it? Like? 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:10.000 Yeah, my family puts like I I've only been able 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:15.080 to operate at the capacity that I have because my 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.360 family is so supportive. 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.880 It's just something to that. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:23.840 I get it. I get it all right. 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.199 So you quit? 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.440 Yeah, I ain't gonna ask you what you've done with 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.160 you know, the things that you were doing after you quit, 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:30.480 because I don't. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:30.800 Have no wire. 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:32.280 I'm not wearing one, and I don't want, you know, 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.200 I don't want to be put in that box. So 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:39.319 when you come back from uh, what is it that sabbatical? 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:40.600 Is that what we'll call with that? 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.720 Yeah, from your sabbatical and you come back into the 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:45.920 not even the music industry at this point, because you 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.160 don't feel like you're in the music industry, you're just 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:49.120 doing music. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:50.280 Well, I didn't even come back. 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.600 I got dragged, you know what. 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.560 That's what happens with talented people. At times. We identify 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.240 them and say, hey, you need to be over here. 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:00.160 Well that's all. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.719 So what happens when you think that you're going to 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.000 control a destiny that was written before you were even 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:07.320 a thought. 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.000 And that's what that space, that time in my life 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:10.400 taught me. 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.440 I was I went to Atlanta, a place that at 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.920 first I was like, I'm never going to Atlanta. I 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.600 had nothing against Atlanta. I just was so South Florida, 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.480 like I'm not going there, you know. And I ended 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.600 up going to Atlanta to visit, and I was like, 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:25.720 who do I know here? 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.280 And here's a producer named Needles. 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.840 My brother, my brother, great. 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:36.200 Person, amazing, It's somebody that I I could do a 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.920 whole podcast on just how amazing he is. But I 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:40.360 called him and I was just like, Hey, I'm in 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.640 Atlanta visiting, and he was like, come to my studio 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.800 and I was like okay. So I pull up on 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.040 him and He was like, where the fuck you Ben? 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.880 And I'm like, man, I've been in a trap doing 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:55.360 bullshit bullshit like and he's like, so you not. He 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.400 was like you had all this motion, like I was 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.840 excited and then you just disappeared. And I was like, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.560 I'm tired, and he was like absolutely not. 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.080 Were you going by sheic then too? Or no? 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.600 I was always yeah, it was always yep, okay. But 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.480 I was just like I'm tired, and he was like, nah, 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:12.840 we're not doing that. He was like, go to Florida, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.200 pack your ship and get back to Atlanta now. Oh shit, 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.400 And I was like, what do I have to lose? 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.800 Nothing? So I went to Miami and packed my shit 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:22.560 and moved to Atlanta. 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.680 Oh okay, so now you're in Atlanta. Cause I thought 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.200 she's gonna be like, oh, I don't know how that 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.440 you went. You took it. You said that I'm coming, 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:32.840 Let me ta take this opportunity. 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.080 I don't got no kids yet, no husband yet. There's 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:41.000 no reason, you know what I mean. When you don't have. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.120 Certain things, it's like it ain't if you have an excuse, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.520 that's that's self made, you know what I mean. Like 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.080 for me, it was like, what, what's the real excuse? 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.240 There is none, you know what I mean. So just 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:53.840 do what the man said, go pack your ship and 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:55.400 get back here when. 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:56.920 You come back to Atlanta. 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:01.280 Now, when you go pack your shit, the intention is 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.120 to be an artist or to be a writer. Now 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:08.480 now just Bill still artists, still hyperfocused because needles. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.560 For him, it was like I saw you perform overseas. 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.400 I saw you do all these things, so I know 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:15.560 what you're capable of, so we need to hone in 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.280 on that. So I'm like, all right, cool, So we're 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.240 doing that. And in the midst of us, excuse me, 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:25.080 in the midst of us doing all of that, he 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.200 would play the music for people and they'd be like, 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.720 who's writing for her? And that was the first time 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.680 I had ever heard that question, because I had heard, 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:36.080 like there would be guys that would say little things 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.360 sometimes like they'd be like, yo, whoever's writing for her 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:42.320 is sick? And I'd be like, like, what is it like? 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:47.720 But somebody actually asking me like who's writing this? 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.840 And I was, honestly, I was I wasn't even offended. 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:52.960 I was confused. I was just like, what do you mean? 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.800 Like I'm writing it? And then it would be like, oh, well, 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:57.760 can I get you over here to write the past? 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:01.400 And I was like, okay, cool. 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.320 So I started doing that and in the first year 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:11.880 that I was open to it, there were three three 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:17.120 big fish okay, and with the people at the time 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:22.720 who it was, they were massive artists. But the albums 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.880 they they cut my records. But the albums never came. 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.399 Out for whatever reason. 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:30.720 But what it let me know was that I was 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:34.520 onto something. I wasn't even upset about the album's not 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.600 coming out. I was just like, oh, it was a 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.880 a proof of concept for me. It was just like, oh, 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.200 all right, like I can, I can do this right. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.040 So that's when I was like, all right, let me 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.920 just take it a little more serious. And then COVID hit. 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.679 So when COVID hit, do you go back to Florida? 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.280 No, I was still in Atlanta because baby Atlanta was open. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:05.080 Florida. I thought I thought Florida was over. I like Atlanta. 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.920 I think it was still smoking hookahs, hook in each 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:14.639 other's face, ship babe. Atlanta had to be there. No, 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.480 I didn't want you. I wanted no parts. I wanted 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:17.920 no parts. 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.720 Atlanta was a crazy time. Atlanta COVID and Atlanta was unmatched. 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.040 Unmatched, Yeah, because I'm sure there was some ships and 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:27.960 PPPs and all of yeah. 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.560 Yeah, the people, the people were outside. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.080 Yeah yeah, it was out and the money was floyd 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.320 and the money was and the money was floored. 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.480 Times would be a had listen. 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.560 So during that time, I mean, I stayed in Atlanta 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:43.800 and I was kind of in a limbo. 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.160 I didn't really know like what to do. 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:49.639 I was just still like working on artists stuff and 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:51.960 you know, but no one was really doing sessions and 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.320 you know what I mean. And then there were like 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.440 the Zoom sessions, but I personally am not a fan 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.560 of those kind of sessions. I feel like they're not 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:04.840 really this was something about person to person, like you 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:06.440 know what I mean. Like the Zoom sessions for me 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:10.080 were just like eh, So I didn't really know like 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.760 what was happening. And then a good friend of mine, 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.600 Chris Patterson that's my dog, shout out to him. He 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.879 hit me one day and was like, yo, this is 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.439 probably I want to say. We were like mids like 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:24.840 not at like the beginning of COVID. I wanted this 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:30.320 like twenty twenty one ish, excuse me, and He's like, Yo, 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.840 do you want to go to LA and do some 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:36.399 stuff for Insecure the show? And I was like okay, 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:38.359 like I'll do it. But he was like the only 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.520 thing though, is that, like you got to be vaccinated. 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.240 And I was like shit because I didn't get the vaccination. 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.880 And then I was like, yo, what fuck it? Because 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:48.400 at that time, you know, they were making us feel 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.439 like COVID was like over here forever. So I was like, well, 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.399 it's either gonna be I'm never gonna work in this 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:56.080 town again, or you know, I'm gonna go get this 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:56.719 little vaccine. 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:58.040 So I was just like fucking let me just go 0:19:58.040 --> 0:19:59.080 get this out. I went and got it. 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.840 And then and I went to a camp that Issa's 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:06.800 company radio ad for Insecure was for season five. And 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.639 as I was there, I was like talking to this 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:13.480 guy and you know, I'm just I'm just talking. 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:15.320 We just talking about food and whatever else. 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:16.680 And I'm like, yeah, cause you know, I'm from South 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.679 Florida and you know, I'm like Jamaican and you know 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:21.280 I love Haitian food and I love this and that. 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:22.880 He's like, oh, I'm patient. I'm like, oh cool, We're 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:23.280 just talking. 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:26.520 So then I get a call like an hour later 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:28.879 and was like, hey, you were just talking to a 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:30.760 guy named Phelipe And I was like yeah, and they 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:33.240 were like yeah, Philip is like the head of music 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.760 supervision for her company. They got a new show coming 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:37.479 out called rap Shit and you must have told him 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:39.520 you were from Miami and he really wants you to 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.160 be a part of oh Shit. 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:43.640 And I was like, oh, just being willing to talk 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:44.639 to somebody. 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:46.399 Just being willing to talk, and just being like not 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:50.440 being an asshole, like just being respectful, just like having 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.159 an identity that exists outside of what you do for 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:56.200 a living, because that's another thing, like some people don't 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.120 even know how to hold a conversation outside of their 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.960 job or their acay vasion. Yeah, and and so I 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:07.239 was like okay, cool, and I stayed behind and we 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:11.240 started on Rap Shit Season one, and so I worked 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.600 on I was like the main pen behind the character Mia. 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.560 So these are your in the sense your first placements. 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:19.840 Yes, My very very very very very first placement was 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:22.719 the Georgia Lottery. I wrote a jingle for the Georgia Lottery. 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:26.800 That's a fun fact. But after that, yeah. 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:28.199 No, no, no, no, we think we ain't gonna. We 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:29.560 ain't just gonna over there. 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:33.720 You was writing jingles, I was writing jingles. You gotta 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:35.720 start somewhere, man, can you sing the jingle? 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:36.040 Please? 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.600 No, come on, I got it here? Did you at 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.960 least tell me what what was you saying? They had 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.359 a character named Aunt Edith. She was like this ninety 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:48.160 year old lady that hit the jackpot and was going crazy. 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.760 She was buying like pink poodles, diamonds like I had 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:54.919 her out here, stunting like she was flexing. It was like, 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:58.320 oh my god, out with my ladies, manni's and petties. 0:21:58.680 --> 0:21:59.200 What was it? 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.280 Edith made it walking around pinch there, walking around, jet 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.600 sitting pete poodle, diamond wearing like she was really doing this. 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:08.240 She was performing into everything. 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.840 Wait, wait what she was? I got there's a real character. 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:14.160 Yes, she was an actress. 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:16.640 Who went and started performing. 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:20.000 Yes, and I had to vocal producer. I was vocal 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:22.520 producing this eighty that. She was like eighty five years old. 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:25.800 Somewhere around there, I think, man, shout out to Edith 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:28.159 was going crazy. She was performing this shit got the 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:41.800 Hawks games only Atlanta, only Atlanta, only Atlanta, only Atlanta. 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:45.080 Okay, so you know it is. The show is called 0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:48.520 on RB money. What did they pay you for Georgia 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:50.800 Lottery jingle? Do you remember? I don't. 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:51.879 I don't. 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:54.879 It wasn't a lot of money though, But at that 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:57.280 point I think for me, it wasn't even about the money. 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:01.520 It was like, look, I am a firm believer in 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:06.800 you have to earn your no. Okay, I live by that. 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:10.040 You have to earn your no when you are trying 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:14.119 to get somewhere. You better if somebody say I need 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:16.040 I need you to write a song out of a 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.080 squeaky chair, you better do that shit. You at least 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:21.240 try listen, do everything at least once, as long as 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:24.440 it's not you know, putting you in a compromising position 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:27.119 with your integrities. You're more's whatever you're saying for. I 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:30.000 don't believe in that. But you get that call one 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:31.320 o'clock in the morning, Hey can you come to studio? 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:35.200 You better get your ass up. You if your opportunity 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:39.800 for something. Because when I did that for the Georgia Lottery, 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:42.480 even though it was like you know, now you laugh 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.000 about it and you're like, oh whatever, but at the 0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:46.959 time it was like, oh wait a minute, like this 0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:48.480 is existing on television. 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:52.080 Yeah, it's existing in a place, you know what I mean. 0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:55.560 And so it's and then you now when you go 0:23:55.640 --> 0:24:01.200 into rooms, you have something to say, you know, and 0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:03.119 I don't think people understand the power of that, you 0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:04.920 know what I mean, like to just show that you're 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:10.120 working or that you're capable, like we all start somewhere. 0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:14.760 So that was my that's that's actually dope though. Yeah, 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:16.520 it's actually dope. And you know, I'm going to look 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:17.040 it up to I. 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:20.280 Got send you the video having to please I need it. 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:21.840 I need it, people tagging me in it. For the 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:23.080 longest it was so funny. 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:24.200 So now you're on. 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:30.639 The writing team for rap shit, yes, and who's the 0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:31.880 character you're writing for on there? 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:33.440 Mia for mea Yeah. 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:38.320 Are those songs also being distributed as well? 0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:40.280 Or is it just purely for the show. 0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:42.200 For the show, But the show also has a soundtrack, 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.120 so the songs are also on the soundtrack. 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.399 And then I was like contributing to other songs. 0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.200 For the sound you get writing the TV money, yeah, 0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:54.920 which was which was cool this and TV money is nice. 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:58.080 Yeah, and building a great relationship with the radio team 0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:00.840 and you know, stuff like that. And then in the 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:03.400 midst of all that, you know, like I'm still like 0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:06.280 working like a couple of days a week, but then 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:08.800 still hustling. Like I worked as a stylist for a 0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.840 little while, so I'd get like styling gigs, and you know. 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.399 And you are when you come to write for Rapture? 0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:16.160 Do you stay in la or do you go back 0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:16.720 to Atlanta? 0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:16.879 No? 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:17.560 I was back. 0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:19.840 You're back and forth yep, And you're styling in. 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.560 Atlanta and in ls styling in Atlanta or New York 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:24.760 or wherever. Like one thing about me, If you tell 0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:26.560 me there's an opportunity somewhere, I'm gonna go. 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:30.040 Hey, were you styling for artists directly or were you 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:31.000 just styling. 0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:31.640 For What were you styling for? 0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:33.600 So one of the things that I had styled during 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:37.960 that time was it was a short film, independent film. 0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.200 It was called around ninety nine. It was like starring 0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:40.800 jaw Rules. 0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:44.199 So I was styling him and like all the characters 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:45.919 and stuff for the cast. But then it was funny 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:51.200 because that led to me styling styling Rock Kim. Sure, 0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:53.679 So I styled Rock Kim for like his concert at 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:55.879 like Sony Music called him and his whole entire band 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:57.000 and stuff like that. 0:25:57.040 --> 0:26:00.600 Styling is a lot of work though that only imagine. 0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:04.720 So, so, was it just something that you just dove 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.280 into on your own word, or did somebody say, you 0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:08.000 know what you fly? 0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.280 Would you mind you know, helping us with this? 0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:14.840 You know what it is? It's like I'm I'm a 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.200 multi hyphen it right for sure? 0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.199 Yeah, And it's and the thing is, I'm more than 0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:25.360 being a multi hyphen it. I'm determined. So if somebody 0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:27.879 says to me, you know, how do you if I 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:29.320 want to know how to do something, A lot of 0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:31.000 things that I learned how to do came from me 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:33.840 just not having the budget. So when I learned how 0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:36.040 to style, it was because I couldn't afford a stylist, right. 0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:36.840 You know. 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.240 When I was writing my own music is because I 0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.320 just thought that's that's what it was. You had to 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:46.439 write your own music. And anything that I do is 0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:49.000 just because I'm like, oh, well I want this. 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:51.640 It's really a no brainer. It's like I want this, 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:52.840 How do you do it? 0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:54.000 How do you do it? 0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:58.080 It's really simple, you know what I mean. So, and 0:26:58.119 --> 0:26:59.960 then opportunities just kind of go. 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.760 So, you know, one lead because. 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.920 I made sure you were always there was the opportunity. 0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:08.280 You were always showed up. 0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:09.399 Even the ones I didn't want to do. 0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.720 And that's huge, Yeah, that's huge. Just so many people 0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:14.000 like you said, earning your. 0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:17.280 No, yep, And at that time I hadn't earned mind out. 0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:21.640 But there's so many people who believe that, oh, that's 0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:22.199 just not for me. 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:24.280 No, you don't know what's for you. 0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:28.320 That opportunity that could be around the corner is now 0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:29.960 for not for you either at this point. 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:34.280 And the thing is is that listen, true story. 0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:39.080 I was working with these girls one time, and they 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:43.800 were a girl group, and they the manager had brought 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.200 me in to do some writing and stuff for them. 0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.160 And as I was working with them, they were really talented, 0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.600 but I wasn't sure what was really happening with them, 0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.199 you know what I mean, because they weren't they they 0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.400 were still developing, so I wasn't really sure of what 0:27:57.440 --> 0:27:57.879 was happening. 0:27:57.880 --> 0:27:59.200 So I was just like, you know, whatever. 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.960 And then sometimes when you're working with artists that are 0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:06.159 still developing or whatever the case is, especially if you 0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.520 don't have a background in the business, it's hard to 0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:12.479 understand the pipeline and understand what it takes to develop 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.160 an artist and that you know, the quiet moments are 0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:18.480 normal or like the building is not as exciting as 0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:19.320 you might think it is. 0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.320 So I would be I would just go to. 0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:24.320 These sessions and do the work, and no matter what 0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.320 if I'm in the room, if I if I say 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:28.959 I'm gonna be in the room, I'm not gonna come 0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:29.919 in there and be half assed. 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:31.480 I don't care if it's. 0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:33.679 A big artist a small artist. I'm giving it my 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:38.040 best because I agreed to be there. So I go 0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:39.840 to one of the sessions one day and there's this 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.880 guy sitting in the corner and he's super quiet, and 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.360 I'm just kind of like, you know, I'm always just 0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:47.560 paying attention to my surroundings. 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:48.720 I'm like, what the fuck do mother fuger? 0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:48.840 Like? 0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:49.320 You know what I mean? 0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.120 But he's super quiet. Hein't really saying too much, so 0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:54.120 I'm like, all right, whatever. So I'm working with the girls, 0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:56.760 working with the girls, so a couple hours ago back 0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:58.920 he really wasn't saying much at all. And then finally 0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.239 he comes up to me and he's like, hey, can 0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:04.840 we change information? And I was just like okay. Creative 0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.320 to creative, it was nothing like creepy and I was 0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.440 just like, all right, cool. So then he goes to me, 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.880 I think you'd be really cool to bring you into 0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:14.880 work with Missy Elliott. 0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:15.720 And I was like what. 0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:19.680 And I'm like, this guy's been sitting quiet as hell 0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.240 in the corner the whole time, and in my head. 0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:24.880 I'm like, you fucking miss right. 0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:29.040 So he calls me like two weeks later, twelve o'clock 0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.120 at night, yo, can you pull up to the studio. 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:33.600 For what? 0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.760 He's like, Missy's here. I want you to And I 0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.840 was like all right. So I'm not really sure what's happening. 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.200 It's Atlanta. Ain't gonna lie. I got my little little 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:53.240 bodyguard with me and I'm speeding down little bodyguard, so 0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:59.040 I'm speeding on the highway studio. He tells us to 0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:00.360 go to anybody's from it lea. 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:00.480 No. 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:02.680 The distance from Midtown, where I was living at the time, 0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:03.959 to Alpharetta. 0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:05.760 Is yes, okay, yep. 0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:07.440 He was like, I need you hear in fifteen minutes 0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:09.360 you all right? 0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:09.680 Yes? 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.920 So I'm like, ain't no way I'm gonna get there 0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:15.239 in fifteen minutes. But I'm gonna just say yes and 0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.120 figure it out. I ain't put on no makeup. 0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:19.080 Guess what. 0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:20.760 It wasn't my show. It wasn't time for that. You're 0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:22.280 telling me I need to come there and work with 0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:25.560 Missie Elliot. I'm coming. So I get my ass up. 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:31.720 I'm speeding, speeding, okay, exit, get to the studio. I'm like, 0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.960 what kind of fucking studio is this? It's an ice 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:39.320 skating rink? Right, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Yo, 0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:44.560 I'm looking and I'm ice skating. It ain't no fucking way. 0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:45.920 This is a real studio. 0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:46.880 Okay. 0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:51.920 So I got my you are, I'm a bodyguard. 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:52.160 And my jackets. 0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.040 So I'm looking through the whole parking lot and I 0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:59.360 see one car to the back and it got a 0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:01.320 covering on but I could see at the bottom and 0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:03.160 it was like a lime I think it was like 0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.200 a lime greenish color or something. And I was like, 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.880 Missy's a car person. I said that gotta be her car, 0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:09.600 all right, because for me, I'm scope, but just to 0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:11.680 make sure that, yeah, I'm safe, you know what I mean, 0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:15.080 because just you know, you gotta always do that. So 0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:19.960 I get there and it's the guy who I'm talking about. 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:20.600 Shout out to him. 0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:25.040 He's my brother's Corte, it's my dog, and he goes. 0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:26.600 Yeah, like Missy's here, like I once you come work, 0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.080 and I was just like okay, cool. So it's me 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.640 and a couple other guys and I didn't really know 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.920 any of the other guys or whatever. And Missy is 0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:38.000 you know how they say like nobody sees her record 0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.600 anything or anything like that, like you don't watch her 0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.000 work at all, Like that is very very true. 0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:45.200 So I didn't know what was happening, but I just 0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:46.160 knew I showed up. 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:47.080 Okay. 0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.760 So the guys are kind of like writing some stuff 0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:53.160 for her, and I'm listening to the stuff that they're saying, 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:55.600 and it was no shade, but it's like, yeah, I 0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:56.920 need me something with some money. 0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:58.880 Motherfucker. Missy is the. 0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.280 Nigga with the money. What are you talking about? 0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:06.120 Missy has all the money through that car under there 0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:09.400 was either a Ferrari or Lamborghaine. It was something crazy something. 0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:12.120 Yes, So here's the thing and this and this is 0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.840 this is where integrity and just want to do the 0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:15.960 right thing comes into play. 0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:19.000 We didn't know that she was outside the door listening. 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:21.880 So I go in there because you know, I do 0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:23.720 my homework before I get there and I'm trying to 0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.360 because that's the thing about songwriting is people don't realize 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:29.280 like how mental it is right and spiritual it is, 0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:33.200 because you literally have to take on another energy, yes, 0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:35.840 and you have to absorb that and become it right. 0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:37.960 So I'm like, okay, I'm sitting there. I'm like, all right, 0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:39.640 if I was Missy mind you. I don't have no 0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.840 big places at the time, so I'm like, if I 0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:45.440 was Missy whatever. So I'm in there and I'm working. 0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.480 So Corte comes in the room and he's like, hey, y'all, 0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:48.640 can we talk to shek real quick. 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.600 I'm like, ah, ship, what the hell out undead? 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:55.920 So I got my bodyguard man listen, I'm like, what 0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.440 the hell out undead. I'm just like nervous as fuck, 0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.280 and I'm like, they about to tell what ever? 0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.080 So the guys come out the room. 0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.800 The Corte's like, he looks at the engineer and goes, 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.360 delete all that shit they was doing. We about to 0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:11.440 give you another a whole other hard drive. That Missy 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.200 got some ideas she wants she to work on these 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:19.840 by herself, and I was like, oh, okay, cool, And 0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.240 she came in the room and we got to talking, 0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:25.800 and that was one of the best moments of my 0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:29.520 career because just being able to even like, first of all, 0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.800 she's someone I look up to, Like, my goal in 0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:35.360 my career is to be this generation's Missy Elliott in 0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:37.720 terms of like and I got some big shoes to 0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.200 feeling a long way to go, but in terms of 0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:45.480 how she exists, how she exists as a creative, whether 0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.760 she's in the back or in the front, or a 0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.960 producer or a songwriter or an artist, and just her 0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:55.680 creativity and how she pushes like Missy and even with 0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.400 her like how she started you know what I mean, 0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:00.920 and everything, like I being able to sit there and 0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.760 just talk with her, and she gave me a piece 0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.680 of advice that I still take with me till now. 0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.000 Whereas when she said to me, because I don't like 0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.280 the booth, I don't record in booths. I hate the booth. 0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:15.759 It's a disconnect for me, okay, And I said, well, yeah, 0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.480 I was. I said something how it came up, and 0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:18.600 I was like, yeah, I don't really like the booth. 0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:22.360 And she goes, listen to me, She said, whatever people need, 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.920 whatever you need to be your best. When someone wants 0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:30.000 something from you, never be afraid to ask for it. 0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.280 And she was like, it don't matter if it's white, 0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:35.840 Eminem's can whatever. 0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.600 She said, when somebody asked you for something. 0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:42.000 Whatever you need to deliver at your best, don't ever 0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:45.520 be afraid to ask for it. I've taken it with me. 0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:49.080 I will continue to take that with me. And it's 0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.160 just the truth, like if I know that I require 0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.160 this to give you because if I come up, if 0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:57.360 I come and I'm doing bullshit and I'm not asking 0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:58.719 you for the things I need, whether it is that 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.360 make you comfortable, comfortable or gis you didn't need like 0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:02.280 five baby doves. 0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:03.399 All you asked for was teeth. 0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.520 That's all I asked for And I haven't even you know. 0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:06.040 That's it. 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:06.880 That's all I needed. 0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:08.440 That's it. I'm easy. 0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:12.240 So she she taught me that, and you know again 0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:14.920 like shout out courte for that. That's something that I 0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.319 take with me, you know, like throughout my career and 0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.160 I've been able to pass to like other girls. You 0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:23.080 know what I mean, because as women, sometimes you're very 0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.120 afraid to ask for things in the studio you know, 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.480 or you know or you're just afraid to rock rooms, 0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.520 to shake a room, and it's like you're not shaking 0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:35.200 the room by telling somebody that you know, this is 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:37.640 not loud enough or this is not this, or it's 0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:40.000 like what do you need It's okay, do you need 0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:41.759 everybody to get out? I don't work well with a 0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.040 million people in the room. 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:48.200 I think I think it's it's important just to just 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.279 to let women know. 0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:53.879 That you guys have earned the right to be there. 0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.880 It's a reason why you're there exactly, you know. 0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:58.839 So if you are in that room and you've made 0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.520 it to that room, your presence has to be felt, 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:02.160 it has. 0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.080 To be felt. And the thing is to me. 0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.400 I can listen, I can listen to records, and I 0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.600 can tell when there's no female energy in the room 0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:13.520 that their female energy is a thing. 0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:15.239 Absolutely, it is a thing. 0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:18.920 It's a it's a balance, it's a balance, and you 0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:20.680 can hear it a lot of times. Like there are 0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:24.080 songs I can listen, I can hear that we're written 0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.520 for like women and you know, the female artists like 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:28.240 they sing them or whatever it is, and there's certain 0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:29.000 lines I'm like. 0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.440 Boy, you know, good and fucking will no woman talk 0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:33.520 like that? Right? Right, like, we don't. 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:36.160 We don't speak that way you right now. From a 0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:38.319 perspective of how you wish a woman would speak to you, 0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:41.960 there's that too, because not how they talk, that's how 0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.680 you wish they would talk, and that's different. 0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:48.160 But I think from a from a from a writer's perspective, 0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.480 as a man who's written a lot of records for women, 0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:55.360 I just always ask questions. I've always I've always just 0:36:55.440 --> 0:37:00.720 been inquisitive about whoever I'm writing for are with. 0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.920 To just be like, Okay, how do you feel? How 0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:04.640 did that feel? 0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:05.480 But that's a lost art. 0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:07.320 How do you what did you talk about? 0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:10.919 Like what did you say when you found such and such? 0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:13.080 Like what's your real reaction? 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:18.800 But that is a skill and a gift in itself 0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:22.640 because that approach. I learned that from watching Jimmy jam 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:26.000 and Terry Lewis interviews, right, And I heard the story 0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:29.600 of when they had Jane Jackson and they were working 0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:31.000 on well, they didn't know what they were working on 0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:32.560 at the time. They knew they were going to work 0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.839 with her, and they spent a few days with her, 0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.000 going to the movies all the things, and finally they 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:40.080 asked her, you know if you could have anything you 0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:41.399 want in life, what would it be right now? 0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.800 Her answer was Control, And they wrote the Control album. 0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.520 And so when I watched that, I was like, Oh, 0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:48.600 this is how I want to approach things, and I'm 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.640 going to tell you something. I personally think that that 0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:54.560 has contributed to a lot of my success is because 0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:57.520 I know how to respect people as individuals. 0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.040 I don't go into a room just assuming. 0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:05.480 That you you know, like sushi, or you want to 0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:08.120 be with eight dudes or this and that. There's some 0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.480 girls that I've gone into rooms and I'm always having 0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:12.480 conversations and by the time I'm done talking to them, 0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.160 I'm like, you sure you don't want to do gospel 0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:17.120 cause I don't know if this is. 0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:20.240 For you, you know, and like, but. 0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:23.000 That's but you know, but people feel seen. 0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.680 People feel seen, and at the end of the day, 0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:31.120 there's a bullying that takes place sometimes from producer to 0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:33.400 artists or songwriter artists where it's like, no, you need 0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:35.040 to say this, and it's like they don't need to 0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:38.560 say shit. That's not your job. Your job is to 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.680 go in there and bring out the best in them. 0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.799 You don't know them like that. I don't care what 0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:47.719 the fuck you read on the internet. People see in 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:51.800 stories all damn day for sure. So it's like, why 0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:55.560 are you so why are you so afraid to ask 0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:58.920 a fucking question? Just ask them how they feel, you 0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.160 know what I mean? Like, are you do you want 0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.120 to talk about this? Don't do you want to talk 0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:03.520 about that? 0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:04.120 Do you want? 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:04.879 Whatever it is? 0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:14.200 But respect people's individuality. 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:17.280 I think. 0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:23.440 Everybody says they want to be collaborative until it's time 0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:26.319 to collaborate, like truly, but. 0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:27.040 I'm gonna tell you something. 0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:28.680 Needles is the one that taught me about the power 0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:33.080 of collaboration because before that, again, like I said, people 0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:34.880 will do I wi themselves into the floor. 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:39.120 I didn't know and I never figet. He told me. 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.160 He was like she'd listened to me. He was like, 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.640 I used to do everything by myself. He's like the 0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.600 record that changed my career, which was just the way 0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:48.880 you are he did for Bruno Mars. He said that 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:52.759 was a collaborative record. He said that record has been 0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:55.399 paying me for the past thirteen years. 0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:56.239 I don't give him. 0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.319 About doing anything by myself whoever we need. 0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:04.200 And then also to like just other creators that I 0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:07.719 admire so much, when you watch them work and you 0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.839 see how many people are in the room and how 0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:12.280 many people it really takes. 0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:16.799 Yeah, we're just going after the ultimate goal, which is 0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:17.520 a hit record. 0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.440 Yeah, that's it. However, you get to that point. 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:25.760 Now, when you get there, you know, obviously sometimes people 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:32.359 have what we call it azia. I won't even call 0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:34.640 it ego. I just call it am Niche. 0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:38.120 Did what and how it was done? 0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:39.719 You know. 0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.759 But that's why I'm also like, especially since I got 0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:46.480 you here, even just the business side of it, I 0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:50.400 am an advocate for handling the business day of. 0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.080 I know it's tough, it is. 0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:57.080 But I tell you young writers and older writers, shit, 0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:03.640 but you young writers, get that split sheet done, get 0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:07.640 it done, have everybody signed their signature on it. Don't 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:10.960 have to argue about it. But when those publishing splits 0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:14.800 come in at one hundred and seventeen percent, that don't 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:19.520 fucking exist in a song, No, motherfuckers. 0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.440 It don't imagine. I asked if I could curse on 0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:23.839 this podcast. 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:28.319 I'd be cussing my ass off. But that's the thing. 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.560 Those are the things that really make me cuss and 0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:32.200 make me mad. It ain't much, but make me mad. 0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.840 I don't know, right, but I just I hate that. Yeah, 0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:39.640 when it's now okay, the song is out and now 0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.920 that don't even it doesn't add up to one hundreds 0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:43.880 beyond one hundred percent. 0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:52.160 Yeah, no, also to it. It's they're hard conversations to have, yes, 0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:56.960 but easier if it's on the table early, early, and 0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.719 even if you don't want to have it. That's what 0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:01.080 you got a team for, you know. But if you're 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:04.080 at an early place where you don't have the team, 0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.480 you cannot be afraid to have those conversations. 0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:07.279 And I'm gonna tell you this. 0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:11.239 Anybody that gives you any kind of attitude, backlash or 0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:15.160 anything about trying to have that conversation, don't mean you will. 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.759 Anybody that is like, you. 0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:20.880 Know what, cool I got? I got you, like, you 0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:23.000 know whatever, it's like all right. But anybody that's like, 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:26.360 why are we talking about? It's like you just you 0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:27.000 don't mean you. 0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:30.800 You know what I what I tell people and something 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:38.560 I live by. I'm important and I am an asset 0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:42.360 And the worst thing I can do to you is 0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:43.279 not work with you. 0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:45.160 That's it. That's it. 0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:49.239 I ain't got a beef with nobody. Okay, you know 0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:54.000 what I'm gonna take less on this one. Yeah, at 0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:57.239 some point you're going to call me again, and my 0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:59.160 immediate response is going to be. 0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:02.120 I can't do that. That's it. And you know why, 0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:07.960 always mean, you know why, that's it. 0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:11.520 You think your ten percent is worth twenty five and 0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:15.400 you know it was ten and I gave you twenty 0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:16.839 so we would both feel good. 0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:19.760 I'm never doing it again with you again. 0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:23.080 Yeah, And we just have to we have to understand 0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:24.920 how important we are. 0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:25.719 Yep. 0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:26.640 And I think too. 0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:32.000 I have something I say all the time, Eddie Murphy 0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.240 and Will Smith don't have a movie together. 0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:36.160 They don't. 0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:38.120 And what I mean by that is. 0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:39.799 I think you're about to start some shit though, but. 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:45.239 I don't, right, But what I mean is, we ain't 0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.879 got to work with everybody. Like Eddie Murphy and Will 0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:53.240 Smith don't have a movie together, and they are both successful, iconic, 0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:56.279 legendary at the highest level. And it doesn't mean they 0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:57.799 have beef. I don't want to say I don't want 0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:00.920 to make it seem like something. It probably just happened 0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.920 that way, right, But this whole notion of like, no, 0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:07.680 everybody gotta work with it, It's not like that, Like 0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.480 you should in the beginning parts of your career, like 0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:14.000 or even sometimes you know, like do the session. But 0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.400 if a shoe don't fit, it's not the end of 0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:17.200 the fucking world. 0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.600 You're the fool. If it happens to you again, that's 0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:20.600 it you are. 0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:22.880 And the thing is is like there's a precedence that 0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:26.200 you said very early in your career, and people talk, 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:29.040 and if you are not and I'm not saying you 0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.719 gotta be nasty, because I don't believe in that, but 0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:34.560 you do need to be assertive and you do need 0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:36.640 to be serious about your business because people talk. And 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.839 if somebody gets over on you and then they're part 0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:41.560 of something else and they see that you're it'd. 0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:43.400 Be like, oh, well they ain't finna say shit, or 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:45.719 like you know, so part of me. 0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:46.360 But you have to. 0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:47.799 You have to. 0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:53.080 It is it is your responsibility to decide how you 0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.239 want to be handled in this business and how you 0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.759 want to be respected, and what you want the trajectory 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:00.400 of your career and what you want your creer to 0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:01.239 look like. 0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:04.720 Like that's nobody else's job. If you if you sit. 0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:07.600 There and you know, continuously take the short end of 0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:09.879 the stick. You can't cry about always getting the short 0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:11.359 end of the stick because you the one taking it, 0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:13.040 because they gonna try everybody. 0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:17.160 How long did it take you to start understanding the business? 0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:22.960 Ooh baby, I'm still trying to understand the business. 0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:27.640 I don't love, I don't I don't think. I don't 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:29.680 think any of us fully know it. It's such an 0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:34.480 ever growing and ever changing and evolving business. Like just 0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:37.239 when you think you figured out streaming a new law, 0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:39.279 you know what I mean, just when you think you 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:43.320 figured out, oh this is how blah blah blah blah blah. 0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:49.360 It's just constantly growing and evolving, and you know, you'll 0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:51.760 do things for a long time and you'll think it's normal, 0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:55.120 and then you get into another situation where finally somebody's 0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.640 actually being honest and you're like, wait a minute. The 0:45:57.640 --> 0:45:59.600 whole time, so sometimes you're getting jerked around and you 0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:02.239 didn't even you know what I mean. So I think, like, 0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:08.360 just I'm constantly I'm constantly a student, constantly a student, 0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:10.520 you know what I mean. I don't know everything, and 0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:12.919 any day that I feel like I know everything, that's 0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:15.680 the end of me because you don't, you know what 0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.879 I mean? I know what I know, but if good 0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:22.680 and I know it feels good, and and if I 0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:25.759 don't know something, I'm not afraid to ask questions. I'm 0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:28.279 not afraid to go do some research. You know, you 0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:30.560 a fucking idiot. If you want to sit there pretending 0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:33.560 like you know everything, you only hurting yourself. Like, just 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.520 just ask, just ask, you know, Because as much as 0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:39.000 there's like messed up people in this business, there are 0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:42.120 incredible people in this business too, you know, there are 0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:46.040 I have some of the greatest people I know in 0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:49.520 life I met in this business. So there's this whole 0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:53.080 thing about like, oh the business, and yeah, the business 0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:56.920 is messed up, but everybody's not fucked up. There are 0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:58.600 people that will tell you what you need to know. 0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:03.400 It's just life. You're gonna be good people, great people, 0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:05.240 bad people, horrible people. 0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:09.280 It's levels to all of it, and there's always another 0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:09.920 side of it. 0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:12.560 But it's something that you said earlier. Even with it. 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:17.360 Like you said about writing records, you wrote records chasing 0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:22.400 a feeling. We also have to do business chasing a feeling. Absolutely, 0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:25.799 if it does not feel right to you, it's not right. 0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:27.719 It's not right for you. 0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:32.120 You one else, but not for you, but for you, 0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:35.520 and I think we get away from that. Some peopeople like, 0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:37.759 oh man, well, so why did you do that deal? 0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:44.120 They offered me more money hmm, and now you're fucked. Yeah, 0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:45.960 and now you feel fucked and you feel like they 0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:50.560 fucked you over. But truthfully, they might not have at all. 0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:52.880 They might not even been a bad deal in itself. 0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.520 It just may not have worked for you because there 0:47:57.280 --> 0:47:59.799 the things that were in place where the more money 0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:03.080 will us over. Then where the feeling of somebody who's 0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:05.560 going to fight for you. You know, it could be 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:07.400 somebody coming up to you like, you know what, I 0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:09.319 rock with you, but I only got this. 0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:14.040 But you also have to you have to know what 0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:14.799 your needs are. 0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:18.040 Like anytime somebody calls me and asks me for advice, 0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:20.920 the first thing I asked them is what are your goals? 0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:22.120 What do you need? 0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:25.200 There's some people that need the money and they don't 0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:28.959 care about the back end. And if that's what, Yeah, 0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:31.360 you got to remember remember that when it dried up. 0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:33.479 Yeah, you got to remember that I needed that break. 0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:35.160 I needed that bread, and that's why I made this. 0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.600 Decision, my first deal. I needed that breade. 0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:41.000 Listen, I don't care who you are there's not one 0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:42.920 creative that could ever tell me they ain't fuck up 0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:45.440 their first bag. We have all fucked the money up 0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:49.920 at least once, at minimum more device or three. 0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:50.600 You know. 0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:57.759 Listen, but it's also but also a driver, right or 0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:01.960 it's no for real, like it's real. It's motivation. And 0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:03.759 that's why when people be like, well why did they 0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:08.759 buy a plane because the cars wasn't getting them out 0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:09.440 of bed every day? 0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:09.799 No more. 0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:14.840 Let's just be real, nieces, Like listen, I'm trying to 0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:18.279 figure out how to buy this G five, So I 0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:20.680 got to work a little harder, you know what I mean. 0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:24.400 Things have to motivate you, whatever that is. So sometimes 0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:25.359 going broke. 0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:31.320 Yeah, motivate you. You get back on your the greatest 0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:33.000 song about life way I'm. 0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.680 Back, wait till I get my money right. 0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:41.439 It's all part of the process, and you know it's 0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:42.319 it's to me. 0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:46.000 It's what gets us all going, and it's it helps 0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:48.560 in our service to the world. Yeah, we're here to entertain, 0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:52.080 We're here to give feeling. We're here to make people 0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:55.359 feel a certain way about what we're doing, about what 0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:59.919 they're doing. And sometimes we just were able to worry 0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.239 better than others. You know some of these songs, I'm 0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:04.040 not sure, but you. 0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:08.399 Know, but you know, go crazy, go on. Somebody need 0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:08.680 to hear. 0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:14.319 Not have been me, yeah, but somebody somewhere needed to hear. 0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:21.759 It's okay. So what's your first big record that you 0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:26.680 can that you felt like, I've arrived. I've done it 0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:28.160 the ship I was shooting for. 0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:31.960 I had the honor. 0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:33.960 Come on, I love this record. 0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:35.839 I'm grateful for everything I do. 0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:36.400 So I've had. 0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:38.680 I had the honor being a part of I was 0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:41.440 a co writer on Red Ruby a Sueeze. 0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:41.960 Oh. 0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:45.480 I love that song and I love the fact that 0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:48.799 y'all it was great. Yeah, great song. 0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:53.080 So that record, that record definitely changed the trajectory of 0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:54.040 my career for sure. 0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:57.400 And it kind of you know that record. 0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:02.720 That was just a crazy moment when that record took off. 0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:08.719 Like the text messages that went unanswered for years. Ah, 0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:11.719 they mails that never got to respond in real time. 0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:13.799 I was just watching my phone and I was just 0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:17.160 like wow, And I wasn't even upset. 0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:17.840 You can't be. 0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:21.520 You can't be, because what you have to understand in business, 0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:26.400 not even in our business, but in business, everybody's busy. Yeah, 0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:30.120 and if you are not an asset your liability. 0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:38.520 And you know, look, look, once I learned politics, my 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:43.480 my career changed. I stopped taking everything personal because before 0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:46.200 you learn politics in this business, you will think something 0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:49.200 is wrong with you, right, and ain't gonna lie. 0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:50.160 Some of y'all suck, But. 0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:54.480 For the ones that you know, you're good and people 0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:56.360 are constantly hearing your shit, and it's like, damn, this 0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:56.640 is hard. 0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:59.200 This is hard. Listen you. 0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:02.480 There's been times I remember that I would hear a 0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:06.560 song and I'd be like, man, I was gunning for 0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:09.080 the same thing. This is trash. I know the shit 0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:11.880 that I did was better. But when you start realizing 0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:14.560 who's connected to who and who owes, who will favor 0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:18.560 and all that other shit, you're like, oh, okay, so 0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:25.280 play ball, motherfucker. Like I don't you gotta just play ball? 0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:28.480 You know what I mean? You have to figure out 0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:30.040 what your strategy is. 0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:31.040 For me. 0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:36.360 My strategy has always been movement. Right, Like I was 0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:38.160 raised in church. I go to church, so everything for 0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:40.800 me is spiritual. When I read the Bible. In the Bible, 0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:44.080 every time God was doing something, he made them move. 0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:46.319 He was never it was never intended for people to 0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:50.080 stay in one place. So when people would probably look 0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:53.040 at for me and call instability, I don't give a 0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:55.000 fuck what you call it. I know what God told me. 0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:57.879 So if God told me to go to la that's 0:52:57.880 --> 0:52:59.200 where I gotta go. If he told me to go 0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:02.520 to Atlanta, that's where I need to be. And every 0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:06.880 time I was obedient to my calling, my life changed. 0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:10.759 So Atlanta, shout out to Atlanta. Atlanta is literally one 0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:15.000 of the greatest cities on this planet. Atlanta changed my life. 0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:18.560 The people that I met in Atlanta food amazing. Food's amazing, 0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:22.479 the people are amazing. And Atlanta. No city supports young 0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:26.080 black ambition like Atlanta. No city supports it. 0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:27.920 Like you sound like Tyree's right now, it's just the 0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:33.080 truth he'd be preaching for. Listen, Atlanta should give tyrese us. 0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:36.319 Don't yes, that's you a star. I know y'all got 0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:40.759 the stars. Now y'all doing Tyree's because he beat It's 0:53:40.840 --> 0:53:44.400 true him a jingle. I will write him come to 0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:45.520 or come to Atlanta. 0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:48.640 Listen to something jingle. But like, Atlanta's a great city. 0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:51.120 And and you know, when I was in Atlanta, I 0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:54.680 had gotten I did a lot, but I knew that 0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:57.000 if I wanted to get to the next phase of 0:53:57.040 --> 0:53:59.080 my career, that the next phase of my career was 0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:01.040 going to be in Los ange And so I had 0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:01.759 to make that move. 0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:03.960 So let's talk about Los Angeles. Let's talk about it 0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:06.280 in La. In La, it's cracking. 0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.160 Yeah, but before you even get here, when you get here, 0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:12.839 after you get your your first big hit record, did 0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:13.880 you buy anything stupid? 0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:17.440 No, not yet, not yet? Not yet? 0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:18.439 Have you on yet? 0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:23.560 Okay, okay, okay, but you know, also like my stupid days, 0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:27.440 I'm not going to say they all the way over. Listen, 0:54:27.719 --> 0:54:31.120 we all got some bullshit left, bullshit. 0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:33.400 I was looking. I looked at my stock duror. One day, 0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:35.040 I said no way. 0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:40.080 I started, I start adding up the socks and the 0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:40.880 cost of socks. 0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:42.359 I said, no way. 0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:45.920 Listen, Hey, hey, everybody has their thing, and socks are 0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:46.399 your thing. 0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:48.920 We're not going not even that's just my thing. That 0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:52.680 was just it's just some and no, I don't need it. 0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:57.240 I'm grown take accountability. I was like, this is stupid. 0:54:57.520 --> 0:55:01.680 Yeah, Jay, I love it all, all right, I love exactly. 0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:03.480 I love a good dumb ass moment. 0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:04.600 I'll take it all. 0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:08.560 So when you get to La. You already moving. Have 0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:10.960 you done your publishing deal yet? 0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:11.359 Yeah? 0:55:11.920 --> 0:55:14.600 Did your publishing deal in Atlanta? I did it. Yeah. 0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:16.440 I was still living in Atlanta when I did it. 0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:18.279 And when I did my publishing deal, I opened a 0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:18.879 coffee shop. 0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:24.600 Oh what made you do that? I love coffee, And 0:55:24.640 --> 0:55:26.200 it was purely that it was. 0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:28.200 It wasn't even about the business itself. You just like, 0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:31.080 I love coffee, I love the people love coffee. I'm 0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:32.359 gonna sell coffee. Yeah. 0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:34.560 And then my great grandmother was a coffee farmer and 0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:37.040 I didn't know that. I learned that because I was like, 0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:39.120 I love coffee so much. And one day I was 0:55:39.120 --> 0:55:41.000 talking to my mom and she's like, you know, my 0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:42.680 grandmother used to grow coffee Jamaica. 0:55:42.800 --> 0:55:45.040 We actually produced some of the best coffee in the world. 0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:46.680 That's what. When I went did you make it? They 0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:47.759 tell me I'm not a coffee. 0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:51.160 Drinking so I don't know if I trust you anymore. Yikes, 0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:53.839 But you know, so I did. 0:55:53.880 --> 0:55:56.160 That's kind of manage addictions. I don't, you know, I 0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:57.080 try to stay away from it. 0:55:57.400 --> 0:55:58.360 Give me my caffeine. 0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:00.840 Yeah, because that isn't it. I've seen it didn't close 0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:03.560 coffee is in a diction. 0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:05.560 Number one consumed drug on the planet caffeine. 0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:08.920 Yeah, but I tried to stay away from all things addictive. 0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:11.200 Yeah, when I was in Atlanta, I did that. But 0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:15.040 here's the funny shit. Earlier that year, God was like, 0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:18.600 moved to LA and I was like, no, I'm going 0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:22.000 to open a car, okay, and let me tell you 0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:26.600 how to have it. But lost story short it. You know, 0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:30.040 I did it. I loved every second of having it. 0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:33.520 It ended up not the person I went into business 0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:35.320 with ended up not being the greatest. 0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:37.279 Okay, so you didn't make no money. 0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:38.880 Well, I lost a lot of money. 0:56:39.000 --> 0:56:40.560 You lost not even about not making that. 0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:43.040 Oh, I lost so much money. 0:56:43.040 --> 0:56:47.280 And I remember the day publishing money Yeah, and money 0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:49.840 from just other things, you know, and the other things. 0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:51.000 Boy, we don't remember. 0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:53.360 We're not talking about that. Even though the statue of 0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:54.880 Libertation is over it. 0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:55.520 Is, you know what I mean? 0:56:55.600 --> 0:57:00.840 Like, hey man, nah, but I remember the day I 0:57:00.920 --> 0:57:03.200 closed my shop. I said, fuck this shit, I'm gonna 0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:04.759 go write two songs and make it all better. 0:57:04.840 --> 0:57:06.799 Come on, you know who told me that? 0:57:07.280 --> 0:57:09.520 And I'm about to tell you you can use this 0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:12.080 because I'm sure He's fine with it. He said, Jay, 0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:16.040 you know what, sometimes you gotta charge it to the microphone. 0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:22.080 E forty. Come on, shout out to Earl Stephens. Shout 0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:23.480 out to Earl Stevens. 0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:26.400 He said, flat out, I was talking about something, you know, 0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:28.720 wins and losses, you know what I mean, some money 0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:32.600 that I invested in something. Charge it to the microphone. 0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:35.320 Yeah, and it's what it is, because I'm gonna do 0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:38.480 another one. Absolutely. It was the time of my life 0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:40.120 and I was proud of myself for having a goal, 0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:42.120 having a vision and doing the thing. 0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:43.920 But it was the name of the coffee shop. It's 0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:46.200 called grind Time. Grind Time, so you had a good 0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:46.600 name of that. 0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:47.320 Yeah. 0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:49.760 It was all of we sup print song lyrics on 0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:52.640 the lattes. It was a whole music kind of Yeah. 0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:55.000 It was great and I loved having it, and Atlanta 0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:57.080 was so supportive, like so many people would pull up 0:57:57.080 --> 0:57:57.440 all the time. 0:57:57.480 --> 0:57:58.120 It was great. 0:57:58.280 --> 0:58:01.480 But you know it, I remember the day that I 0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:04.000 closed it. I'm like a strong person, so it's like 0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:06.280 very rare that people ask me how I'm feeling. So 0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:09.000 when I closed it, I think everybody was like, oh, well, 0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:11.560 she must have another like thing. Up her sleeve like 0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:14.240 she's going to be fine, and I was like dying inside. 0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:16.240 You know, this was my baby, like I closed it. 0:58:16.760 --> 0:58:19.560 But I remember sitting there and just being like, God 0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:22.880 told my ass to go to LA, and I just 0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:25.600 did what I wanted to do. And then I was like, well, 0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:28.120 what you gonna do now, bitch? And I was like, 0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:31.840 might as well take your ass La, And so two 0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:33.000 months later I moved to La. 0:58:35.440 --> 0:58:40.800 Damn yeah, but yeah, I say, but I. 0:58:43.520 --> 0:58:47.720 Moved to LA and caught the number one record in 0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:50.880 the world. And if that coffee shop didn't go sour, 0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:53.960 I wouldn't have had that because I didn't have any 0:58:53.960 --> 0:58:54.960 plans on ever come here. 0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:55.840 I was. 0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:56.919 I was at a place. 0:58:58.280 --> 0:58:59.760 Oh yeah, I was like, I'm gona buy a piece 0:58:59.760 --> 0:59:02.800 of land, build a house, my coffee shop, I'm gonna 0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:03.480 expand it. 0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:06.920 I'm gonna feel like writing writing. During that time, I 0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:08.040 was kind of slowed up. 0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:11.440 I was making my exit and God was like, no, bitch, 0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:14.600 dragged me right by the eyelashes, right back into this motherfucker. 0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:17.800 He said, you're not done girl. 0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:18.240 Sorry. 0:59:19.320 --> 0:59:22.560 So okay, So even in that, because we've all been here, 0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:27.000 at least I have where you have these partners. You 0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:31.400 have these these publishing label whatever it is, you have partners. 0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:35.440 So how are they feeling because you've done this publishing 0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:38.320 deal but now you're selling coffee. Ain't no publishing and coffee. 0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:41.840 How are those conversations going? Because we you know what 0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:45.120 I mean, Like the people that watch our show want 0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:47.640 to know how they ship with works. When you make 0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:50.840 a decision like that to say I ain't writing songs 0:59:50.880 --> 0:59:51.760 right now, I ain't gonna. 0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:52.880 Tell you, I can't really tell nobody. 0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:55.000 I was just like what. 0:59:55.040 --> 0:59:56.400 You thought I was gonna call him and be like, 0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:57.480 now I ain't writing no something. 0:59:57.720 --> 1:00:01.040 Motherfucker. Oh yeah, I got you, I got your money. 1:00:01.040 --> 1:00:02.480 They gop over here doing payroll. 1:00:03.880 --> 1:00:06.480 Listen when they negotiating my deal, the first thing I 1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:08.080 told my lawyer, I said, make sure I got to 1:00:08.080 --> 1:00:09.640 buy out clausing that motherfucker. 1:00:10.000 --> 1:00:13.560 Are you looking for your exit from the beginning. 1:00:13.200 --> 1:00:17.520 From the beginning. But I'm gonna tell you what things 1:00:17.520 --> 1:00:18.640 have taught me over time. 1:00:18.840 --> 1:00:22.840 You do not have the power to stop what is 1:00:22.880 --> 1:00:26.640 for you and where you're supposed to be that Oh man, 1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:27.320 I fucked it up. 1:00:27.400 --> 1:00:28.960 You don't have that kind of power. 1:00:29.240 --> 1:00:31.240 Like how many times did I tell you, I tried 1:00:31.240 --> 1:00:33.480 to get out this shit that I quit that God 1:00:33.600 --> 1:00:38.320 was like, m come back and here's the funny part, 1:00:39.680 --> 1:00:41.800 and we'll get to this stuff. But even when I 1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:45.080 ended up doing my artists deal, that took me forever 1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:49.080 because I'm doing artists music and everybody's, oh, who's writing 1:00:49.120 --> 1:00:50.960 for you? And I fell in the songwriter and I 1:00:51.080 --> 1:00:54.600 was totally content with never being up front facing artists again. 1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:59.840 But then the question flipped, where's your music? I know 1:00:59.880 --> 1:01:00.760 you fucking. 1:01:00.560 --> 1:01:05.320 Lying the amount of years that's how go that I 1:01:05.480 --> 1:01:12.200 spent And I literally got offered deals from multiple labels 1:01:12.240 --> 1:01:17.640 off of my references. Again, not something I was actively seeking. 1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:21.240 It sought me out and I was like, you know what, 1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:24.520 fuck it, y'all giving trash motherfuckers checks every day, I 1:01:24.600 --> 1:01:25.480 might as well take one. 1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:30.439 Minus well, I say that a lot if y'all don't 1:01:30.440 --> 1:01:34.400 steal my ship as well, because once you got to lose. 1:01:34.240 --> 1:01:36.640 What you got to lose, you know, and clearly guys 1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:38.520 not letting me out of this thing, so we might as. 1:01:38.480 --> 1:01:40.520 Well go all the way. We just keep putting it 1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:41.760 the buyout clauset. 1:01:41.800 --> 1:01:45.680 We just keep putting the listen know your clause is 1:01:46.040 --> 1:01:48.040 you got to know what you want for your career. 1:01:48.400 --> 1:01:51.680 Yeah, and sometimes you want out and sometimes you want out. 1:01:51.800 --> 1:01:54.040 But you know what, I think we have all wanted 1:01:54.120 --> 1:01:55.040 out at some point. 1:01:55.120 --> 1:01:57.440 I think I've wanted out, maybe three days ago, But 1:01:57.480 --> 1:01:59.160 I'm out of wanting out. 1:01:59.360 --> 1:02:04.120 You are sitting with the King of the Pivot. What nigga, 1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:08.880 I will jay? So you just put out a song. 1:02:09.360 --> 1:02:13.280 No, I didn't musten man, I just I can't. I 1:02:13.680 --> 1:02:15.880 tell a joke, I will tell a lie. Yeah, this 1:02:16.200 --> 1:02:18.640 I we all fight with this. 1:02:18.240 --> 1:02:18.920 This business. 1:02:18.920 --> 1:02:20.920 But at the end of the day, I'm happy to 1:02:20.960 --> 1:02:23.120 be here and I'm grateful. 1:02:24.000 --> 1:02:28.520 And you're an amazing person. First, let's start there above all, 1:02:29.280 --> 1:02:32.280 you know what I mean. And your talent has been 1:02:32.320 --> 1:02:33.560 able to just shine through. 1:02:33.880 --> 1:02:34.280 Thank you. 1:02:44.760 --> 1:02:48.400 And so speaking of talent and shining through and these 1:02:48.440 --> 1:02:49.640 big records. 1:02:49.600 --> 1:02:54.640 How the hell do you get to Korea? Yeah? How 1:02:54.760 --> 1:02:55.360 what you know? 1:02:55.400 --> 1:02:58.240 That's what that's the old black that's the old black 1:02:58.280 --> 1:02:59.520 man you used to say back in the day when 1:02:59.520 --> 1:03:00.400 he came back from. 1:03:02.160 --> 1:03:05.360 Korea. You know what I mean, Get to it. Listen, 1:03:05.520 --> 1:03:10.200 trying to tell you kids in Korea, that's what that's just, 1:03:10.480 --> 1:03:12.480 that's just talk talk. 1:03:13.520 --> 1:03:16.600 How did you get over there to write for these 1:03:16.640 --> 1:03:19.280 amazing artists in the K pop space. 1:03:19.600 --> 1:03:22.680 So fun funny thing. 1:03:23.560 --> 1:03:27.360 I didn't go to Korea until after I did all 1:03:27.360 --> 1:03:27.880 those things. 1:03:27.960 --> 1:03:29.160 I did those records here. 1:03:29.400 --> 1:03:33.200 Okay, So my first record in the K pop world 1:03:33.240 --> 1:03:34.320 was Zen by Jenny. 1:03:35.360 --> 1:03:36.880 I did that with Plus. 1:03:37.800 --> 1:03:40.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, come on, you just you're 1:03:40.760 --> 1:03:46.040 just saying it like ye did that capitals Yeah. 1:03:45.920 --> 1:03:49.600 I mean yeah, but we did Zen and it was me, 1:03:49.680 --> 1:03:52.520 Bibi Barelli, Jelly and Plus. Shout out to them, I 1:03:52.840 --> 1:03:56.080 co writers and producer. And the crazy thing about that 1:03:56.520 --> 1:03:59.800 was the day Plus called me. He goes I'm at 1:03:59.800 --> 1:04:02.400 the udio with Bbi Barelli and she's, look, she needs 1:04:02.600 --> 1:04:05.400 someone to collaborate with, but she wants like another girl, 1:04:05.440 --> 1:04:09.280 are you available? I was at my shop. I was 1:04:09.320 --> 1:04:12.400 at my coffee shop, and I was like, I'm so tired. 1:04:12.440 --> 1:04:13.000 I'm so tired. 1:04:13.000 --> 1:04:15.360 And I was like, you know what, it's one session, 1:04:15.440 --> 1:04:22.040 it's not gonna hurt taking espresso, shot and go. So 1:04:22.160 --> 1:04:25.120 I ended up going and that was where I met 1:04:25.200 --> 1:04:27.840 Nicole Kim. She's A and R for Jenny at the time, 1:04:28.560 --> 1:04:30.840 and you know, BB and I we were there Plus 1:04:30.840 --> 1:04:33.480 like just having a ton of conversations and everything, and 1:04:33.800 --> 1:04:37.040 through the conversations again, importance of conversation in the studio. 1:04:37.120 --> 1:04:38.520 Through the conversations came Zen. 1:04:39.320 --> 1:04:43.000 Jenny would always do her interviews and talk about how 1:04:43.080 --> 1:04:46.120 Zen was like her favorite record, and Zen means a 1:04:46.160 --> 1:04:48.880 lot to me because it's a record that's really about 1:04:48.920 --> 1:04:52.640 like empowerment and really just like fighting through the bullshit, 1:04:52.760 --> 1:04:54.840 and even the way it's written is really poetic. So 1:04:54.960 --> 1:04:56.680 I personally didn't think she would like it, but she 1:04:56.720 --> 1:05:00.120 loved it. So Zen cames and did very well. 1:05:00.040 --> 1:05:00.520 Oh yeah. 1:05:01.000 --> 1:05:03.720 Nicole calls me the following year and she's like, hey, 1:05:03.920 --> 1:05:06.040 she would you want to work with BTS? And I 1:05:06.080 --> 1:05:08.880 was like, girl, is water what? I didn't say that 1:05:08.920 --> 1:05:11.000 to her, you know, yep, I'm like, oh yeah, sure, 1:05:11.200 --> 1:05:14.840 like yeah and oh yeah, you know, I mean, I'll 1:05:14.880 --> 1:05:18.800 see if I have time. But so she was like okay, cool. 1:05:18.840 --> 1:05:21.240 So a couple months go, but I didn't hear anything. 1:05:21.320 --> 1:05:23.320 And you know, I never get upset about things like that, 1:05:23.400 --> 1:05:26.200 you know, because again, when you learn politics, you don't 1:05:26.200 --> 1:05:27.080 take things personal. 1:05:27.520 --> 1:05:28.840 So I was just like all right, whatever. 1:05:28.880 --> 1:05:30.320 So then she calls me a couple months later and 1:05:30.320 --> 1:05:31.800 it's like, hey, I want you to do one day 1:05:32.120 --> 1:05:34.480 with RM. So I'm going and I'm like doing my 1:05:34.520 --> 1:05:37.360 research and I'm like, okay, he's a group leader. Cool, 1:05:37.880 --> 1:05:42.000 go to Conway Studios here. And the day that I 1:05:42.040 --> 1:05:44.480 got there, me and Derek actually pulled up at the 1:05:44.520 --> 1:05:49.240 same time shout out Derek Malano and I look at 1:05:49.280 --> 1:05:50.800 Derek and I was just like, do you know what 1:05:50.840 --> 1:05:51.240 we're doing? 1:05:51.240 --> 1:05:53.040 And He's like do you know what we're doing? And 1:05:53.080 --> 1:05:55.160 I was like I don't. So he's like all right. 1:05:55.200 --> 1:05:59.000 So we get there and we're talking to them, and 1:05:59.000 --> 1:06:01.520 they bring Derek to another so he was like doing 1:06:01.520 --> 1:06:04.200 whatever they needed him to do, and they basically said 1:06:04.200 --> 1:06:06.920 to me, like, you know, one of the things about 1:06:07.080 --> 1:06:11.840 LA is that we have massive melodies and big production, 1:06:12.080 --> 1:06:19.600 but people really neglect lyrics, and you are a great lyricist, 1:06:19.640 --> 1:06:20.040 Like you're. 1:06:19.920 --> 1:06:21.240 One of the best lyricist out of it. I was 1:06:21.240 --> 1:06:23.120 just like, okay, girl keep suting my horm but okay. 1:06:23.600 --> 1:06:25.439 So she was just like, you know, I really want 1:06:25.480 --> 1:06:27.720 you to like sit with RM and like help to 1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:31.040 curate these songs, to like make them more, make them 1:06:31.160 --> 1:06:33.400 unique to the band, and just things that they can feel. 1:06:33.440 --> 1:06:37.000 And I was just like, okay, So I sat with 1:06:37.200 --> 1:06:40.280 Ram the first day and I was just I couldn't 1:06:40.280 --> 1:06:43.520 really read him. And it was a very different approach 1:06:44.120 --> 1:06:46.800 than that I normally taken songwriting, because an enormous songwriting. 1:06:46.840 --> 1:06:48.360 You know, we sit down and it's like, oh, hey girl, 1:06:48.400 --> 1:06:50.400 like hey, you know so, but this was a whole 1:06:50.400 --> 1:06:53.200 other culture. It was a whole other so you know, 1:06:53.280 --> 1:06:55.160 now this is where I'm just like, all right, let 1:06:55.160 --> 1:06:58.960 me observe be a student. So after a couple hours, 1:06:59.000 --> 1:07:01.240 like We're sitting there with your lyrics and I'm throwing 1:07:01.280 --> 1:07:03.600 ideas out and some of them were landing and some 1:07:03.680 --> 1:07:06.360 of them weren't. And you know, I keep getting into 1:07:06.400 --> 1:07:09.200 these roadblocks because I would say something and they're like, well, 1:07:09.240 --> 1:07:12.840 you know, because of our native tongue, they can't pronounce that, 1:07:13.760 --> 1:07:16.480 or you know that they have to stay away from 1:07:16.600 --> 1:07:17.560 it's that's drugs. 1:07:17.560 --> 1:07:19.760 They can't say that. That's alcohol, they can't say that. 1:07:20.520 --> 1:07:22.240 And then after a couple hours, he's just like, you know, 1:07:22.360 --> 1:07:24.000 I'm kind of tired and I just don't really want 1:07:24.000 --> 1:07:25.640 to do this anymore. And I was like, oh shit, 1:07:25.760 --> 1:07:27.120 and I was like all right, cool. So I was like, 1:07:27.160 --> 1:07:29.120 you know, thank you for having me. Like I had 1:07:29.120 --> 1:07:30.960 a great day with you, and you know, I appreciate 1:07:30.960 --> 1:07:31.560 the opportunity. 1:07:31.600 --> 1:07:33.600 So in my head, I'm like, well, there's that shit, 1:07:33.720 --> 1:07:34.360 Like that's over with. 1:07:35.560 --> 1:07:37.080 And I was only supposed to be there for a day, 1:07:37.160 --> 1:07:40.320 so I was like, well that's done. So at like 1:07:40.520 --> 1:07:42.360 three o'clock in the morning, I get a text from 1:07:42.440 --> 1:07:46.160 Nicole and she's like, hey, I really need you for 1:07:46.280 --> 1:07:48.640 like the next seven or eight days. And I was like, 1:07:48.680 --> 1:07:51.120 what do you mean and she's like, RAM really really 1:07:51.200 --> 1:07:52.280 loves working with you. 1:07:53.400 --> 1:07:55.800 I thought it was over with, yeah, but. 1:07:56.000 --> 1:07:58.880 I was like okay, So I'm like supposed to fly 1:07:58.960 --> 1:08:01.800 out the next day. I'm she travel around and I 1:08:01.840 --> 1:08:04.360 did all the things, and I was like, okay, I 1:08:04.400 --> 1:08:06.520 got the I got the days you need, you know whatever. 1:08:06.560 --> 1:08:07.320 And she's like all right. 1:08:07.360 --> 1:08:07.640 Cool. 1:08:07.720 --> 1:08:10.120 So the next day they hit me and they're like, 1:08:10.480 --> 1:08:12.360 he doesn't want to work in the studio. 1:08:12.400 --> 1:08:13.280 He wants to work in the house. 1:08:13.320 --> 1:08:14.520 And I was like, okay, cool. 1:08:14.560 --> 1:08:19.400 So they rent us a mansion and come on, and 1:08:19.400 --> 1:08:22.000 I'm gonna tell you something. I've worked with a lot 1:08:22.000 --> 1:08:24.439 of people. I've had the blessing and the honor and 1:08:24.479 --> 1:08:27.000 privilege to work with so many people, and this is 1:08:27.160 --> 1:08:34.880 no shade. But up until that moment coming, I was like, oh, 1:08:34.960 --> 1:08:36.240 these are superstars. 1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:38.640 I told you how shade was coming, and. 1:08:38.920 --> 1:08:42.080 This is no, no, no, no, no no, because this is 1:08:42.240 --> 1:08:49.519 no shade, right. But it's like there's levels, the levels. Listen, 1:08:50.840 --> 1:08:53.400 they could say they cold, and it's eight motherfuckers jumping 1:08:53.400 --> 1:08:57.639 out the vent with a jacket like this was different levels, 1:08:57.760 --> 1:08:59.880 it's levels. And I was just like, oh, he doesn't 1:08:59.880 --> 1:09:02.640 want to work in the studio. Cool, let's let's just 1:09:02.680 --> 1:09:06.280 go get them a mansion on the ocean to finish 1:09:06.280 --> 1:09:07.080 writing swimming. 1:09:07.200 --> 1:09:08.760 Why not? Because why not? 1:09:08.800 --> 1:09:12.759 And I was just like, okay, because what did Missy say? 1:09:12.800 --> 1:09:15.640 Whatever, you need to get the job done to be 1:09:15.960 --> 1:09:17.960 your best, you better ask for it. 1:09:18.960 --> 1:09:22.080 You know, I'm shooting these podcasts on the ocean from 1:09:22.120 --> 1:09:22.439 now on. 1:09:22.640 --> 1:09:24.320 I don't know if none of this is gonna. 1:09:24.080 --> 1:09:26.280 Fly away, because that's what I'm going to figure it out, 1:09:26.320 --> 1:09:27.479 because I like the ocean. 1:09:27.680 --> 1:09:28.479 I know that's right. 1:09:29.120 --> 1:09:34.559 And we sat there and you know, we finished swim 1:09:34.600 --> 1:09:38.120 in front of the ocean, and then once I now 1:09:38.160 --> 1:09:42.679 started figuring out a rhythm because again in those moments, 1:09:42.800 --> 1:09:44.599 like it's one of my favorite quotes is a Richard 1:09:44.600 --> 1:09:47.040 Branson quote, you get an opportunity, you don't know what 1:09:47.040 --> 1:09:47.519 to do, you. 1:09:47.479 --> 1:09:49.200 Say yes and figure it out along the way, or 1:09:49.240 --> 1:09:50.000 figure it out later. 1:09:50.560 --> 1:09:53.679 So I'm just like, now I'm studying the way that 1:09:54.640 --> 1:09:59.599 you know, I'm actively learning him. I'm learning the rest 1:09:59.640 --> 1:10:02.800 of the ban and through him, but learning him as 1:10:03.040 --> 1:10:06.080 we're going. So now he's getting a little more comfortable. 1:10:06.120 --> 1:10:08.280 We move on to normal, and that's when I started 1:10:08.320 --> 1:10:11.040 asking questions like, you know, what is your normal? 1:10:11.400 --> 1:10:12.880 And that's when he's explaining their life. 1:10:12.880 --> 1:10:14.800 So when you watch a Netflix documentary and you see 1:10:14.800 --> 1:10:17.160 me and him there having a conversation, we're having a 1:10:17.160 --> 1:10:18.280 conversation about. 1:10:18.040 --> 1:10:21.280 Normal and you know what is normal for them. 1:10:21.479 --> 1:10:24.679 And that's where we were able to contribute to normal 1:10:24.800 --> 1:10:27.880 and stuff like that. So it was really a very 1:10:27.880 --> 1:10:30.439 interesting process. And then we moved on to like the 1:10:30.520 --> 1:10:32.960 other you know records as they went. So a lot 1:10:33.000 --> 1:10:36.479 of these records they were started by like amazing writers 1:10:36.479 --> 1:10:38.920 and producers, so like, you know, a lot of these 1:10:38.960 --> 1:10:42.920 records were like Ryan Tedder and Livvy Frank and Bow 1:10:42.960 --> 1:10:46.160 Knox and Sean Foreman, Derek like a lot of people. 1:10:46.240 --> 1:10:48.559 So that's the thing about Hit records is like they 1:10:48.640 --> 1:10:52.679 passed through a lot of hands in order to become 1:10:52.720 --> 1:10:55.400 what they need to become. Because when you're adamant about 1:10:55.400 --> 1:10:58.280 the hit, you gotta y gotta do what you gotta 1:10:58.320 --> 1:10:58.960 do to get the hit. 1:11:01.760 --> 1:11:04.000 It had a lot of hits out there. Yeah, So 1:11:04.080 --> 1:11:04.920 when you have. 1:11:06.520 --> 1:11:10.080 Ideas that feel like they could be something, but maybe 1:11:10.120 --> 1:11:11.920 you need somebody else's hands. 1:11:12.000 --> 1:11:14.960 Yeah, and that's the important thing, right. 1:11:15.040 --> 1:11:19.519 So the important thing is that listen, if we got 1:11:19.520 --> 1:11:22.479 some chicken in the fridge. Okay, if you got some 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:25.439 chicken in the fridge and you take the chicken out 1:11:25.520 --> 1:11:27.760 the fridge and you thaw the chicken out, and you 1:11:27.800 --> 1:11:29.599 put chicken on the counter, and the chicken is sitting 1:11:29.600 --> 1:11:32.040 in the bowl, but you don't know how to season 1:11:32.080 --> 1:11:32.680 and the cook it. 1:11:32.880 --> 1:11:34.720 Yeah, you gotta call somebody else to do it. 1:11:35.200 --> 1:11:36.519 Right. You see your flower too? 1:11:36.680 --> 1:11:36.840 Huh? 1:11:36.920 --> 1:11:37.920 You season your flower too? 1:11:38.000 --> 1:11:42.040 Depends on if I'm frying chicken or you know. Okay, 1:11:42.080 --> 1:11:47.639 I absolutely you gotta season. I gotta season a flowery. 1:11:48.360 --> 1:11:51.240 Everybody don't. Everybody don't season they flower, which is wild 1:11:51.280 --> 1:11:51.479 to me. 1:11:51.800 --> 1:11:52.519 But we are. 1:11:52.680 --> 1:11:55.240 Next conversation is going to be while we're cooking, because 1:11:55.240 --> 1:11:58.640 I can cook my ass. So yeah, but you know, 1:11:59.320 --> 1:12:01.760 somebody else come and season it, and the thing is 1:12:01.800 --> 1:12:03.920 the person that seasons it might not know how to 1:12:03.920 --> 1:12:06.879 cook it. So now somebody else comes and they actually 1:12:06.880 --> 1:12:08.720 cook it, but guess what, they might not know how 1:12:08.720 --> 1:12:11.880 to serve it. And now somebody else comes to service. 1:12:12.000 --> 1:12:16.640 So we have this, we have this this perspective or 1:12:16.720 --> 1:12:20.160 just this this way of thinking that like somebody's job 1:12:20.240 --> 1:12:23.600 is more important, or every job is equally important, and 1:12:23.720 --> 1:12:26.360 every creative that's a part of the process matters. 1:12:26.640 --> 1:12:28.400 Yes, that's at least how I see it. 1:12:28.439 --> 1:12:30.560 Now, you do have some people out there that d 1:12:30.960 --> 1:12:33.160 and it's like that's on y'all. But I think that 1:12:33.280 --> 1:12:36.599 for me, what has contributed to my career is, Look, 1:12:37.200 --> 1:12:39.000 this whole shit is like a vehicle. I know when 1:12:39.040 --> 1:12:40.600 I'm in the driver's seat, I know when I'm in 1:12:40.600 --> 1:12:42.519 the passenger seat, I know when I'm in the back seat, 1:12:42.720 --> 1:12:43.639 and I also know when. 1:12:43.479 --> 1:12:44.320 I'm not in the damn car. 1:12:45.560 --> 1:12:48.040 Knowing your laane, knowing your position, and knowing how to 1:12:48.080 --> 1:12:52.200 operate in that position when you're needed, don't be. 1:12:52.160 --> 1:12:52.880 A me monster. 1:12:53.240 --> 1:12:56.160 I love being a part of thing. That's it. But 1:12:56.200 --> 1:12:57.480 I think it's also. 1:12:58.479 --> 1:13:01.200 I grew up playing sports from a big family as 1:13:01.240 --> 1:13:05.839 you do. So I think when you have certain things 1:13:06.400 --> 1:13:10.479 that you just grew up not knowing any better, yeah, 1:13:10.560 --> 1:13:14.200 are different, it just becomes second nature to you to 1:13:14.280 --> 1:13:17.560 be like, oh, yeah, well I assisted exactly, you know 1:13:17.560 --> 1:13:19.280 what I mean. I didn't do it by myself. No, 1:13:20.439 --> 1:13:21.160 And I'm cool with. 1:13:21.120 --> 1:13:23.639 That, and that's okay, and that's okay, It's totally fine, 1:13:23.720 --> 1:13:26.720 and I think that. Look, man, I always say this, 1:13:26.960 --> 1:13:30.040 like when Ego walks in the room, God walks out. 1:13:30.960 --> 1:13:32.600 You can be as intentional as you want to be 1:13:32.640 --> 1:13:35.439 with the creative process. And the creative process does require intention, 1:13:35.880 --> 1:13:38.920 but you have to leave two percent from magic. You 1:13:38.960 --> 1:13:40.760 got to leave two percent for God, like you need 1:13:40.880 --> 1:13:43.200 something that just moves in the air, you know what 1:13:43.240 --> 1:13:47.320 I mean. And Ego cannot be present during that because 1:13:47.360 --> 1:13:48.960 you will stifle the process. 1:13:49.439 --> 1:13:51.880 You'll stifle it. And I think that again. 1:13:52.120 --> 1:13:55.880 You know, I'm blessed to even if I didn't work 1:13:55.880 --> 1:14:00.000 with certain creatives directly, I'm blessed to even be adjacent 1:14:00.080 --> 1:14:03.759 sent to them. I'm blessed to even have been able 1:14:03.800 --> 1:14:07.160 to contribute to something along with them for our journey 1:14:07.200 --> 1:14:08.840 to even pass. A lot of these are people that 1:14:08.920 --> 1:14:12.080 I grew up like, oh my god, like this is 1:14:12.080 --> 1:14:13.320 such and such, you know what I mean. 1:14:13.479 --> 1:14:17.000 Like, I'm grateful to even be in their path. 1:14:17.120 --> 1:14:22.000 And I'd be a liar to think that I was like, oh, like, man, 1:14:22.040 --> 1:14:23.679 one day, me and that person going to do a record. 1:14:23.760 --> 1:14:26.640 Some of those things seemed far fetched, you know what 1:14:26.720 --> 1:14:30.040 I mean, And now they're not. Now they've actually become 1:14:30.040 --> 1:14:33.000 a reality. So I'm grateful for those things, you know. 1:14:33.080 --> 1:14:38.120 And I'll never ever stifle the process or like or 1:14:38.200 --> 1:14:41.320 base or even just like downplay people or diminish their 1:14:41.360 --> 1:14:43.960 contributions or try to make something seem like you know, 1:14:44.600 --> 1:14:47.760 there's look, man, there's people out here running around with 1:14:48.000 --> 1:14:49.840 plaques for songs that they weren't. 1:14:49.600 --> 1:14:52.519 Even in the room when it was made. 1:14:53.439 --> 1:14:55.479 So if there's a person in the room and you 1:14:55.600 --> 1:14:58.320 have an idea or an energy or anything, and you 1:14:58.360 --> 1:15:02.559 were there and it actually contribut to this, why would 1:15:02.640 --> 1:15:05.720 we try to rob you of your contribution, no matter 1:15:05.760 --> 1:15:08.759 how big or small. Sometimes one of my favorite stories 1:15:08.840 --> 1:15:12.400 is when Sierra did goodies and it was my cookies 1:15:12.400 --> 1:15:13.880 at first, and they were like, what the fuck is 1:15:13.920 --> 1:15:14.479 this right? 1:15:15.320 --> 1:15:16.400 One word? 1:15:16.760 --> 1:15:19.439 One word going from cookies to goodies. 1:15:19.800 --> 1:15:21.719 Yeah, gave them the hit for sure. 1:15:22.240 --> 1:15:23.519 So those things are important. 1:15:23.680 --> 1:15:26.919 And I and I think that everybody's role is important, 1:15:27.120 --> 1:15:28.599 you know, And I don't think it's cool to like 1:15:28.640 --> 1:15:30.240 diminish anybody shit like. 1:15:30.800 --> 1:15:33.960 So you're gonna learn how to swim? I'll try. You 1:15:34.000 --> 1:15:35.840 can't have this record and I know how to swim? 1:15:36.240 --> 1:15:39.080 You got it? Listen, tread water or something. You gotta learn. 1:15:39.760 --> 1:15:41.000 You have to learn. You can't. 1:15:41.120 --> 1:15:43.920 No, No, I don't need so I can just keep 1:15:43.960 --> 1:15:44.519 writing about it. 1:15:44.720 --> 1:15:47.160 My god, So swim. 1:15:47.280 --> 1:15:50.360 Yeah, you had to buy something stupid after swimgae. 1:15:50.360 --> 1:15:52.479 It's coming. I haven't done it yet, no, so oh 1:15:52.520 --> 1:15:55.000 so when you said yet, you haven't even done it yet. Period. 1:15:55.120 --> 1:15:56.439 No, it's coming though. 1:15:56.479 --> 1:15:59.680 What you're gonna do? But come on, I don't I 1:15:59.720 --> 1:16:02.320 don't know? What's what's what? Do you feel like? It's crazy? 1:16:02.400 --> 1:16:04.439 Well you want to know, Okay, you really want to 1:16:04.479 --> 1:16:06.840 know the truth. And everybody that follows me knows this. 1:16:07.520 --> 1:16:09.640 I am hell bent on buying a flamingo. 1:16:11.600 --> 1:16:13.760 They so, here's a thing. 1:16:15.120 --> 1:16:18.360 Here's a thing. I learned that a group of flamingos 1:16:18.400 --> 1:16:21.840 are called the Flamboyants. Flamingos. You can't just have one, 1:16:21.920 --> 1:16:24.320 you have to have more than one because they're social animals. 1:16:24.760 --> 1:16:26.719 They eat pink shrimp and that's why they. 1:16:28.600 --> 1:16:30.679 And you have to be either like a zoo keeper 1:16:30.760 --> 1:16:33.439 or have like a specialized I'm fully prepared to become 1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:34.400 a zoo keeper. 1:16:34.080 --> 1:16:36.680 To have it, just have just to have the flamboyant 1:16:36.720 --> 1:16:37.560 as fustele. 1:16:38.120 --> 1:16:38.960 How many youre you gonna get? 1:16:39.040 --> 1:16:44.280 I want like five Q five piece. I gotta have. 1:16:45.880 --> 1:16:47.320 Got in the back. 1:16:47.720 --> 1:16:51.559 It's me in the bagoyance in the bag. And it 1:16:51.640 --> 1:16:53.920 happened because one day I was looking for flamingo to 1:16:53.920 --> 1:16:57.120 shoot something, and I called everywhere around South Florida, and 1:16:57.200 --> 1:16:59.120 one motherfucker kept answering the phone. 1:16:59.160 --> 1:17:00.880 You gotta know what you mean when you say shoot 1:17:00.960 --> 1:17:02.560 up because you keep your little bodyguard. 1:17:04.479 --> 1:17:09.080 I guess gotta make sure you wouldn't having a moment 1:17:09.120 --> 1:17:10.160 like I'm. 1:17:10.000 --> 1:17:14.559 Raising No no, no, no, no no, shoot hey some content 1:17:14.640 --> 1:17:16.799 some content, not some content. 1:17:16.880 --> 1:17:17.040 Yes. 1:17:17.880 --> 1:17:21.720 So one motherfucker kept answering the phone, and finally I 1:17:21.760 --> 1:17:23.960 said to him, are you the person that I just 1:17:23.960 --> 1:17:24.960 spoke to three times? 1:17:24.960 --> 1:17:25.519 He goes yeah. 1:17:25.560 --> 1:17:27.880 I said, why do you have all these different phone numbers? 1:17:28.120 --> 1:17:30.000 He was like, listen, man, I'm the only person in 1:17:30.080 --> 1:17:31.320 Florida that got flamingos. 1:17:31.320 --> 1:17:31.960 I said, is that? 1:17:32.040 --> 1:17:34.960 So he goes yeah, and I said so. Then it 1:17:35.040 --> 1:17:40.240 kind of became like this. His name is Spencer. Shout 1:17:40.240 --> 1:17:43.400 out Spencer. He's the only motherfucker that owns flamingos in 1:17:43.439 --> 1:17:44.040 South Florida. 1:17:44.160 --> 1:17:44.880 Shout Spencer. 1:17:45.000 --> 1:17:49.040 Shot flamingo man. But it became like a personal mission 1:17:49.080 --> 1:17:53.000 of mine. I'm like, oh, you trying to monopolize the 1:17:53.040 --> 1:17:57.680 flamingo game. Bet bet, And I'm dead ass serious about this. 1:17:57.960 --> 1:18:00.000 I'm coming for his ass. You think I found out 1:18:00.040 --> 1:18:02.519 that they were called the Flamboyance because I was bored. 1:18:02.600 --> 1:18:04.439 I've been actively researching this. 1:18:06.960 --> 1:18:08.040 I'm finding them flamingos. 1:18:08.040 --> 1:18:10.720 You wait, do you know how much they cost? Once 1:18:10.760 --> 1:18:11.880 you get your license and all that. 1:18:11.960 --> 1:18:14.000 See, the thing is they not that expensive. It's the 1:18:14.200 --> 1:18:16.240 up key. It's like the cares. 1:18:16.520 --> 1:18:18.599 You gotta find these certain shrimp to keep them. 1:18:18.520 --> 1:18:22.760 The shrimp, certain client, all the things like it's it'll 1:18:22.800 --> 1:18:24.599 be fine, though, it'll it'll be fine. 1:18:24.640 --> 1:18:27.640 I'm getting you gotta buy all the things. Yeah, for 1:18:27.760 --> 1:18:28.920 the flamingo. 1:18:28.479 --> 1:18:31.400 I'm getting the motherfuckers, okay, mark my word. And when 1:18:31.439 --> 1:18:33.000 I get them, we're coming right back here. 1:18:33.120 --> 1:18:38.080 No, you're not bringing flamingos in here. It's not boring. 1:18:38.600 --> 1:18:41.000 I'd be like, wait, no, this is. 1:18:41.320 --> 1:18:42.719 So, that is what I will be buying. 1:18:43.320 --> 1:18:45.080 Okay, yeah, five flamingos. 1:18:45.120 --> 1:18:45.800 Five flamingos. 1:18:45.800 --> 1:18:48.120 I don't think I've ever heard Ruben. Have we heard 1:18:48.200 --> 1:18:50.920 that one before? Okay, we've never heard that before. 1:18:50.960 --> 1:18:53.559 And a candy pint helicopter definitely won't. 1:18:53.400 --> 1:18:55.320 One of those like the cash funny one. 1:18:55.360 --> 1:18:58.760 Remember that, Remember they had the helicopter need a helicopter, 1:18:59.320 --> 1:18:59.920 candy paint. 1:19:00.160 --> 1:19:03.280 Candy paint got to be you know, listen, man, I'm 1:19:03.280 --> 1:19:04.559 from South Florida, baby, come. 1:19:04.400 --> 1:19:06.480 On lightly, I actually respected. 1:19:06.640 --> 1:19:09.519 Yeah, gotta be candy paint. Might put a flamingo on 1:19:09.560 --> 1:19:10.479 the side of that motherfucker. 1:19:10.479 --> 1:19:10.920 I don't know. 1:19:11.120 --> 1:19:14.960 See how I'm feeling, See how I'm feeling. 1:19:25.040 --> 1:19:28.719 Another amazing artist you work with? Who I love Becky 1:19:28.760 --> 1:19:29.880 g my girl. 1:19:30.600 --> 1:19:34.560 Shout out Becky, shout out, shout out by. 1:19:35.680 --> 1:19:44.160 I can't speak no Spanish, boy, but I'd be like, yeah. 1:19:41.720 --> 1:19:44.759 Becky, so fire man and shout out Deputy and Sada 1:19:44.960 --> 1:19:48.000 and Campaigny, like we did that record together with Becky 1:19:48.120 --> 1:19:50.479 and ud I love that record. 1:19:50.720 --> 1:19:53.400 Yeah, made to the World Cup, Yes, we did. How 1:19:53.439 --> 1:19:54.400 did that feel. 1:19:55.680 --> 1:19:58.639 Amazed balls. It was great. I love that. 1:19:58.680 --> 1:20:00.920 That has to be a crazy. 1:20:00.640 --> 1:20:02.840 But you know, not even you know what's crazy though. 1:20:03.400 --> 1:20:06.639 It was like the world has kind of just been 1:20:06.680 --> 1:20:09.559 like the theme of my year, swim was number one 1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:10.000 in the world. 1:20:10.800 --> 1:20:13.120 The world has been the theme of my years. 1:20:13.200 --> 1:20:16.400 You know that is a bar it really has that. 1:20:16.400 --> 1:20:19.920 That's been the theme, you know, World Cup, number one 1:20:19.960 --> 1:20:23.839 in the world, the world, the world's been happening. 1:20:24.040 --> 1:20:26.439 I know you're publisher, happy that you don't sell coffee 1:20:26.439 --> 1:20:26.840 no more. 1:20:27.560 --> 1:20:33.599 Shout out to my home girl, Christina, come. 1:20:33.400 --> 1:20:36.120 On, come on. 1:20:37.560 --> 1:20:37.800 Girl. 1:20:38.600 --> 1:20:41.160 Oh that is so dope. Yeah, that's so dope. 1:20:41.200 --> 1:20:42.760 But EPA's fired. 1:20:42.840 --> 1:20:45.360 The album comes out August fourteenth, when Backyard have four 1:20:45.439 --> 1:20:49.680 on their patrona Glitch and oyc that I did with 1:20:49.840 --> 1:20:51.600 all the my same collaborators. 1:20:51.640 --> 1:20:53.800 We are definitely a threat when we get there. 1:20:53.840 --> 1:20:55.240 So do you speak Spanish? 1:20:56.200 --> 1:20:58.639 Winter a little bit, but not that great. 1:20:59.000 --> 1:21:03.200 So it's it's funny because with this process again being 1:21:03.200 --> 1:21:07.120 a student, this is where that you know, growing up 1:21:07.120 --> 1:21:09.400 in Miami or growing up in South Florida because I'm 1:21:09.400 --> 1:21:12.320 from East Merrimar, which Broward don't want us in day, 1:21:12.400 --> 1:21:16.240 don't want us whatever, I'm literally from the border of 1:21:16.479 --> 1:21:18.880 Broward and daycount One side of the street is three 1:21:18.960 --> 1:21:20.040 or five, the other side nine five. 1:21:20.080 --> 1:21:21.040 Oh it's the county line. 1:21:22.560 --> 1:21:23.240 So I read book. 1:21:24.000 --> 1:21:26.080 But growing up. 1:21:26.040 --> 1:21:28.880 Down there, like it's just it's a huge musical soundscape, 1:21:28.920 --> 1:21:32.000 you know. So you grow up with everything reggae, reggae, thon, 1:21:32.120 --> 1:21:34.879 you know, house, hip hop, whatever. 1:21:35.320 --> 1:21:37.080 So I always had. 1:21:37.080 --> 1:21:41.160 Like an ear for things and an understanding of all 1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:43.360 these different like sounds because I grew up in them. 1:21:43.720 --> 1:21:47.519 So being able to go into these rooms, it was like, Okay, 1:21:47.640 --> 1:21:51.120 I'm one thing I'm really good at is like going 1:21:51.160 --> 1:21:54.479 in a room being observant, being a student and being like, oh, 1:21:54.479 --> 1:21:55.200 this is what we're doing. 1:21:55.520 --> 1:21:56.759 Bet cool. 1:21:57.200 --> 1:21:58.919 So me Insida. 1:21:59.040 --> 1:22:02.520 We have a really she's an incredible writer from Venezuela 1:22:02.600 --> 1:22:05.160 as my girl, but she and I have a great 1:22:05.200 --> 1:22:08.439 little system. So it'll be like I'll know, like, okay, 1:22:08.479 --> 1:22:12.360 I want to say something like hot, like a blue 1:22:12.360 --> 1:22:15.599 flame or something, and I'll be like, sada, how would 1:22:15.640 --> 1:22:16.120 we say? 1:22:16.400 --> 1:22:19.679 So, like how do you say blue flame? 1:22:20.160 --> 1:22:22.120 And I'll be like okay, because I know blue is 1:22:22.160 --> 1:22:26.320 asul flame caliente or fuego callient tastes hot fuego and 1:22:26.320 --> 1:22:29.800 she'll be like, oh uh, fuego assoul and it's like, okay, 1:22:29.800 --> 1:22:32.000 cool because so she'll make sure that my Spanish is 1:22:32.439 --> 1:22:35.960 in check, and then she's also throwing out lines as 1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:38.479 she you know, in Spanish. And then there's times where 1:22:38.479 --> 1:22:41.360 I'll throw out an English line and we'll try to 1:22:41.360 --> 1:22:43.320 translate it and she'll be like, you know what, I 1:22:43.320 --> 1:22:46.400 think it sounds better in English. Let's keep it in English, 1:22:46.560 --> 1:22:48.960 or she'll translate it to Spanish and we kind of 1:22:49.000 --> 1:22:49.920 just ping pong like that. 1:22:50.160 --> 1:22:54.320 And this is how you write for the world, guys, girls, 1:22:54.800 --> 1:22:57.479 This is this is she's giving a masterclass. And I 1:22:57.520 --> 1:23:00.840 hope you're paying attention. And I'm not even charging y'all 1:23:00.920 --> 1:23:04.040 for this. You know, she my homie and she pulled 1:23:04.120 --> 1:23:08.519 up on me for free. So now that's that's incredible. Though, 1:23:08.560 --> 1:23:11.599 because I've written songs for a long time, I've never 1:23:11.640 --> 1:23:14.880 written a song in another language. So that's why I asked, 1:23:14.880 --> 1:23:18.080 because if I don't know something, I'm gonna ask. 1:23:18.160 --> 1:23:20.320 But again, like for you, like, let's just say you 1:23:20.360 --> 1:23:22.000 were like, you know what on my bucket list I 1:23:22.000 --> 1:23:24.960 want to I want to do a Latin song again. 1:23:25.320 --> 1:23:29.200 Going back to air, Corossiter. Huh ass you should cap. 1:23:29.200 --> 1:23:30.800 You should go side off for every Latin. 1:23:30.880 --> 1:23:31.080 Yeah. 1:23:31.120 --> 1:23:33.720 Absolutely, it's my girl. Shout out to her and Nate 1:23:33.800 --> 1:23:37.559 Nate's fire. Natea is the glue. But the thing is 1:23:37.760 --> 1:23:39.120 when you just know how to go in the room, 1:23:39.240 --> 1:23:41.720 leave your ego at the door. Be a student. Yes, 1:23:41.800 --> 1:23:43.439 don't go in there acting like you fucking know everything 1:23:43.439 --> 1:23:46.880 all the damn time. Be open to other things. Throw 1:23:46.920 --> 1:23:48.880 your ideas out there, don't be afraid. Don't think like 1:23:48.880 --> 1:23:51.000 just because I don't speak the language fluently that I 1:23:51.000 --> 1:23:54.000 don't have anything to say. Say the things. You know 1:23:54.000 --> 1:23:55.920 what I mean, and then they can take it and 1:23:55.960 --> 1:23:59.000 flip it. Like if you can, we can write any 1:23:59.080 --> 1:24:01.040 damn thing for sure, Like you know, and once you 1:24:01.120 --> 1:24:02.360 know how to write, you can do. 1:24:02.680 --> 1:24:06.519 Just your process though, is something in my opinion, that 1:24:06.560 --> 1:24:09.960 should be studied. Thank you, because there is there's a 1:24:10.000 --> 1:24:13.920 true process to it. You're everybody does this whole Oh 1:24:14.160 --> 1:24:18.799 vibe vibe vibe, hey man, good luck getting hit records. 1:24:20.920 --> 1:24:21.840 That ship is tough. 1:24:23.080 --> 1:24:26.640 There's a science to this ship, you know, and and 1:24:26.680 --> 1:24:30.599 that is really a big reason I wanted you here 1:24:30.640 --> 1:24:32.640 to be able to break that science down because I 1:24:32.960 --> 1:24:36.120 know that there is something that you have really spent 1:24:36.240 --> 1:24:41.479 a lot of time learning how to do this, especially at. 1:24:41.360 --> 1:24:42.080 The highest level. 1:24:42.160 --> 1:24:46.080 Absolutely, and but I also want to know about this music. 1:24:47.360 --> 1:24:50.280 I want to know about Sheik the artists. 1:24:50.360 --> 1:24:52.080 You know what I mean, because you through this whole year. 1:24:52.200 --> 1:24:55.439 You know, I got a deal and you know they 1:24:55.600 --> 1:24:56.080 was homie. 1:24:56.520 --> 1:24:58.519 I don't know if you know, but you know everybody 1:24:58.600 --> 1:25:04.760 called me, you know, tell me about this new project that. 1:25:04.760 --> 1:25:06.799 You got going Welcome to my life. 1:25:07.200 --> 1:25:11.479 Yeah, yeah, so that that means that that means it's 1:25:11.479 --> 1:25:14.040 about to be, you know, fully autobiographic. 1:25:14.520 --> 1:25:20.120 Yeah, it's gonna be chaos and chaos. I'm organized chaos, Okay. 1:25:20.439 --> 1:25:22.639 I told you I'll move every damn where, be all 1:25:22.680 --> 1:25:25.040 over the place. Yes, Listen, when I was in Atlanta. 1:25:25.080 --> 1:25:26.840 You know what my nickname was in Atlanta. 1:25:26.840 --> 1:25:27.400 Chek Meach. 1:25:28.880 --> 1:25:29.200 I was in. 1:25:29.640 --> 1:25:31.639 Listen to me. I used to walking to the club 1:25:31.640 --> 1:25:34.559 they like meeting the pitch. Listen. I was at that 1:25:34.600 --> 1:25:36.280 motherfucker spending money like. 1:25:36.840 --> 1:25:40.320 She she she damn that called me the fans earlier. 1:25:40.360 --> 1:25:42.000 So I've been trying to get away from it. But 1:25:42.120 --> 1:25:46.160 now I was on. I was on bull ship. 1:25:47.640 --> 1:25:49.479 And now I'm just about to put it in songs. 1:25:50.200 --> 1:25:54.200 The bullshit I be on but Welcome to My Life, 1:25:54.400 --> 1:25:56.920 the name of the projects. Also the first single that 1:25:56.960 --> 1:26:00.679 we're gonna be running with produced by day Trip, Girl 1:26:00.720 --> 1:26:05.240 on the Beat, Johnny May, the guys. So when I 1:26:05.280 --> 1:26:07.559 got when I have people like offering me like the deals, 1:26:07.600 --> 1:26:08.640 I was like, I don't know if I want to 1:26:08.640 --> 1:26:10.200 do this again, And I was like, fuck it, I'm 1:26:10.200 --> 1:26:10.640 gonna do it. 1:26:11.360 --> 1:26:15.120 But for me, huh my shout out, my team, shout 1:26:15.120 --> 1:26:15.759 out Jay why. 1:26:16.560 --> 1:26:19.880 And I my guy shout out to my home girl 1:26:19.920 --> 1:26:24.680 man Tasha Stoff Whoashai Tasha, not the. 1:26:24.600 --> 1:26:26.280 Little one, my girl. 1:26:27.439 --> 1:26:29.880 But you know, I knew that if I was going 1:26:29.960 --> 1:26:33.160 to do this it it couldn't be no bullshit. I 1:26:33.200 --> 1:26:37.360 can't be sitting there pouring my all into everyone else 1:26:37.960 --> 1:26:41.240 just being honest career wise, you know, like giving people 1:26:41.240 --> 1:26:43.120 these big records and all these things and then being 1:26:43.200 --> 1:26:46.960 mediocre with myself. I don't even add up. So I 1:26:47.040 --> 1:26:49.280 was like, how are you going to approach this? How 1:26:49.360 --> 1:26:52.280 what do you want this to be? And I've always 1:26:52.320 --> 1:26:55.520 had a crazy love for just like house and electronic, 1:26:56.360 --> 1:26:59.960 but I'm also very much of the culture. So I 1:27:00.200 --> 1:27:03.400 coined the term hood house hood house house, that's what 1:27:03.400 --> 1:27:06.519 we're calling it. Okay, Yeah, it's. 1:27:10.040 --> 1:27:13.280 I'm sure I'm making no music, that's. 1:27:12.400 --> 1:27:15.000 All right, making something, making something that made it out 1:27:15.000 --> 1:27:15.840 of sorry. 1:27:15.880 --> 1:27:21.679 Making or cooking. He's kidding, No, I ain't say. 1:27:25.520 --> 1:27:29.240 But you know so I am djane. 1:27:29.600 --> 1:27:33.000 Okay, Okay, give us the give us the food run down. 1:27:33.800 --> 1:27:35.960 We're gonna hear some singing too, because you know, I'm 1:27:35.960 --> 1:27:39.559 gonna tell you I'm willing to fight the good fight. Yeah, 1:27:39.920 --> 1:27:41.880 but I know they're gonna be kicking my ass. She 1:27:42.040 --> 1:27:45.600 don't sing and listen, I don't care. She is amazing 1:27:46.600 --> 1:27:50.280 here because she's amazing, and I hope y'all learned some ship. 1:27:50.280 --> 1:27:52.000 But are you gonna sing on there too? Yes? All right? 1:27:52.160 --> 1:27:55.280 And she's singing on there. 1:27:55.200 --> 1:27:57.320 Ish and it's you know what. 1:27:58.040 --> 1:28:00.639 There is going to be R and B influence, okay, 1:28:00.720 --> 1:28:02.840 because we never leave the culture out. 1:28:02.920 --> 1:28:06.040 Listen. If you sing I say everybody's RB, I'd be fighting. 1:28:06.080 --> 1:28:10.759 I'd be like, well it's such a yeah, yeah, getting 1:28:11.760 --> 1:28:12.839 listen that's mine. 1:28:13.560 --> 1:28:15.200 But we're definitely gonna have that. 1:28:15.320 --> 1:28:20.760 It's it's just a very interesting collective of house and 1:28:20.840 --> 1:28:23.920 electronic Miami based, just like all the things that are 1:28:23.960 --> 1:28:27.479 super high energy, very raw, very aggressive, very gritty, and. 1:28:27.520 --> 1:28:30.400 Just what's the style of it? What's the style of it? 1:28:30.439 --> 1:28:33.040 Because you know you you be pulling up, you pulling 1:28:33.120 --> 1:28:34.920 up and listen, you got you got that ship. 1:28:34.800 --> 1:28:37.599 Off light light right now, okay, right right now. 1:28:37.439 --> 1:28:37.720 All right? 1:28:37.840 --> 1:28:41.280 But for some it's heavy. Okay, I appreciate what I mean. 1:28:41.560 --> 1:28:43.560 I like the drop curl, you know, get your m 1:28:43.640 --> 1:28:47.679 j R and B and I feel about Michael Jackson. 1:28:47.840 --> 1:28:55.920 Listen, I hate you bad, but so style wise, I 1:28:55.920 --> 1:29:01.639 am so just being Jamaican. I I attribute a lot 1:29:01.640 --> 1:29:06.120 of my fashion influences to just Dance all Culture, Patra 1:29:07.200 --> 1:29:11.080 Queen and add Puck listen, Pat shout out Patra my 1:29:11.160 --> 1:29:14.759 earliest influences. But you know, I think that fashion wise, 1:29:14.800 --> 1:29:16.760 we are going to have a time. Even like with 1:29:16.840 --> 1:29:19.840 hoodhouse is like house is spelled haus, so you can't 1:29:19.880 --> 1:29:23.160 leave the fashion out. So I think like the fashion 1:29:23.200 --> 1:29:25.880 is very experimentative. There's going to be like a lot 1:29:25.920 --> 1:29:28.720 of punk influence, a lot of just like you know, 1:29:28.880 --> 1:29:32.640 high end vault designer influence, like all the things, but 1:29:32.960 --> 1:29:35.960 just in a way still that just feels very free 1:29:36.040 --> 1:29:38.800 and liberated. I don't want this to feel stiff. I 1:29:38.800 --> 1:29:40.720 don't want it to feel limiting. I don't want it 1:29:40.800 --> 1:29:44.600 to feel like something that has to be overthought. 1:29:44.960 --> 1:29:47.760 It just needs to exist, you know what I mean? 1:29:47.840 --> 1:29:51.479 And so for me, the same as a creative I 1:29:51.560 --> 1:29:54.600 approach any creative process the same where I'm just I 1:29:54.640 --> 1:29:57.080 said it before, I'm just big on not stifling it. 1:29:57.439 --> 1:29:59.160 So I'm not going to be like, well, I have 1:29:59.240 --> 1:30:01.360 to be like this, like, listen to the record. What 1:30:01.400 --> 1:30:03.280 does the record call for? What's the character that the 1:30:03.320 --> 1:30:05.280 record calls for? What does it look like to have 1:30:05.280 --> 1:30:07.640 a head piece on? Is it in all black? Is 1:30:07.680 --> 1:30:10.680 it in all red? Is it in fucking feathers? Like? 1:30:10.800 --> 1:30:11.920 What is it that? 1:30:11.960 --> 1:30:14.200 You know what I mean that just do what the 1:30:14.320 --> 1:30:16.720 song tells you to do. Niggas, don't be listening to 1:30:16.760 --> 1:30:19.040 the song. That's y'all problem, y'all. Don't listen to the song. 1:30:19.120 --> 1:30:23.200 Listen to listen to the song. He did the song 1:30:23.240 --> 1:30:25.320 tell you did the song called for a gown and sneakers, 1:30:25.360 --> 1:30:27.200 put it the funk on and stop complaining. 1:30:28.920 --> 1:30:31.440 Do we get it this year? Absolutely? 1:30:31.800 --> 1:30:41.840 Iren monarch Irene Irene, she said, okay, we go right, alright. 1:30:41.880 --> 1:30:44.200 We God holding y'all to that because listen. 1:30:44.280 --> 1:30:47.280 I tried to I tried to get like to get 1:30:47.320 --> 1:30:49.880 you a sneak peek, but you know, it's some business 1:30:49.960 --> 1:30:50.960 that need to get take care of. 1:30:51.000 --> 1:30:54.160 So can we want to make sure you're respective creative 1:30:55.360 --> 1:30:58.720 hood house is going to be a time. It's definitely 1:30:58.840 --> 1:31:01.000 left of things that people are probably used to hearing 1:31:01.000 --> 1:31:03.680 me work on. But you know, I don't believe that 1:31:03.720 --> 1:31:05.800 any artists or paint will one color. So I hope 1:31:05.800 --> 1:31:07.160 that people will be respectful. 1:31:07.240 --> 1:31:09.080 And I've seen some pictures and it's colorful. 1:31:09.600 --> 1:31:12.040 It is colorful you and not listen, you're using the 1:31:12.080 --> 1:31:14.639 whole crayon by you're using extended everyone. 1:31:15.600 --> 1:31:18.360 We're even making colors. Come on, we're going out the sky. 1:31:18.640 --> 1:31:19.679 Other things should making. 1:31:20.080 --> 1:31:22.040 Yeah that you know, before we get to some other 1:31:22.200 --> 1:31:24.799 R and B type ship word on the streets. 1:31:25.040 --> 1:31:28.360 Yeah, is that pee Valley is coming back? 1:31:28.520 --> 1:31:28.960 It is. 1:31:29.920 --> 1:31:31.920 You're writing songs and ship for it. It is. 1:31:33.080 --> 1:31:38.320 Listen, pe Valley, the paint is on the way. Shout 1:31:38.320 --> 1:31:41.320 out to coatry Hall my girl. I promise y'all stop 1:31:41.360 --> 1:31:43.519 bullying her. I promise it's Pea. 1:31:43.400 --> 1:31:46.799 Valley's coming, people won't it. That's how this is coming. 1:31:47.400 --> 1:31:49.400 You know, we had a few hiccups and here and 1:31:49.439 --> 1:31:51.400 there and everything, but baby, it is shot. 1:31:51.520 --> 1:31:54.400 It is done, it is signs still delivered, It's gone. 1:31:54.479 --> 1:31:56.400 And if you write them songs already know it's crash. 1:31:56.760 --> 1:31:59.280 I had that was man. P Valley was. 1:32:00.800 --> 1:32:04.040 The process of just the music on that like being 1:32:04.080 --> 1:32:05.640 able to contribute to the music for it. And I 1:32:05.680 --> 1:32:07.640 was also the vocal producer for all the actors that 1:32:07.840 --> 1:32:10.800 had songs on the show, which was so fun and 1:32:11.000 --> 1:32:13.800 just another creative outlet for me. 1:32:15.360 --> 1:32:17.000 But it was great. It was great. 1:32:17.040 --> 1:32:20.679 It is Honestly, this season's gonna blow everybody's mind. 1:32:20.680 --> 1:32:21.639 It is so brilliant. 1:32:21.840 --> 1:32:24.880 It is so brilliant, It's shot beautifully, so many twists 1:32:24.880 --> 1:32:27.040 and turns of surprise. I can't tell y'all everything. All 1:32:27.040 --> 1:32:29.200 I can tell y'all is that it's coming that. 1:32:29.120 --> 1:32:31.519 This year too, ah Ship. 1:32:32.720 --> 1:32:34.479 You know what we're gonna speak. We're gonna speak it 1:32:34.479 --> 1:32:39.960 into existence. Yep, this year, this year, speaking of it. 1:32:39.840 --> 1:32:41.080 Speaking of it to existence. 1:32:41.320 --> 1:32:43.760 I'm just about to start going into a bootleg strip, Clay. 1:32:43.760 --> 1:32:48.839 I'm gon shoot my ohole Peevalley. You know what Jay doing. 1:32:49.360 --> 1:32:50.240 I'm shooting pe. 1:32:50.320 --> 1:32:57.560 Valley, b Valley, be Valley. 1:32:56.640 --> 1:33:00.960 Ship Oh my god, god damn show. 1:33:00.960 --> 1:33:03.280 All right, it's definitely coming all right. 1:33:03.280 --> 1:33:06.000 So we're about to get into the inspirations. You know, 1:33:06.360 --> 1:33:10.519 you know, because I know in my mind all of 1:33:10.560 --> 1:33:13.000 these hits and all this great stuff that you're doing, 1:33:13.080 --> 1:33:14.240 it all comes from R and B. 1:33:14.920 --> 1:33:16.720 This is just what I'm just gonna say. You know, 1:33:16.840 --> 1:33:18.160 that's one of my release influences. 1:33:18.200 --> 1:33:31.040 Go along with it, okay, but it is okay, So 1:33:31.400 --> 1:33:34.240 I want to get into those influences. So our brother 1:33:34.360 --> 1:33:37.880 Tank has sent something in for you, Ruben, can you 1:33:37.920 --> 1:33:38.680 play that for me? 1:33:38.720 --> 1:33:39.040 Please? 1:33:46.400 --> 1:34:04.439 Your top five five all NB songs. We ain't got 1:34:04.479 --> 1:34:06.600 to know one know, we thought. 1:34:06.360 --> 1:34:08.120 You cann't there wrong? 1:34:08.280 --> 1:34:09.519 This show your. 1:34:19.439 --> 1:34:26.200 Top you. 1:34:35.000 --> 1:34:41.479 Boy, good good, real good boy, good real good. To 1:34:41.479 --> 1:34:43.240 get into the inspiration, oh he good. 1:34:43.400 --> 1:34:46.960 Know of your top five R and B singers and 1:34:47.400 --> 1:34:50.599 R and B songs, We're gonna start with the singers. 1:34:50.880 --> 1:34:56.160 Oh, top five R and B singers, Top five R 1:34:56.160 --> 1:34:59.599 and B singers. Yep, does it matter the era, Nope, 1:35:00.200 --> 1:35:00.719 it's yours. 1:35:01.160 --> 1:35:07.800 Okay. Whitney's my favorite sing Come on, come on, come on. 1:35:07.880 --> 1:35:13.120 Whitney's easily my voice, She's easily, easily, easily my favorite singer, 1:35:14.040 --> 1:35:18.080 I can listen to her all day. I really really 1:35:18.240 --> 1:35:20.400 really love and I feel like she's I'm not gonna 1:35:20.400 --> 1:35:22.360 say she's underrated, but I feel that she's not mentioned enough. 1:35:22.479 --> 1:35:29.080 I really love Faith incredible. Faith is incredible. 1:35:28.439 --> 1:35:33.639 Also as a songwriter in Faith a songwriter. We don't 1:35:33.640 --> 1:35:34.479 talk about that enough. 1:35:35.600 --> 1:35:37.840 I singer, songwriter, she is. 1:35:38.680 --> 1:35:42.400 Faith is incredible. I really really really and she fly 1:35:42.800 --> 1:35:45.240 and she's fly and she's and kind of crazy and 1:35:45.320 --> 1:35:48.600 I love it. Faith wasn't having it. Faiths beating bitches. 1:35:48.320 --> 1:35:48.800 The fuck up. 1:35:50.160 --> 1:35:54.120 I love reading play that ship now not a day. 1:35:54.760 --> 1:35:58.040 Sometimes you kicking the door, sometimes you do. So I 1:35:58.160 --> 1:36:02.599 love Faith, I love Whitney. There's singers, well, oh. 1:36:03.960 --> 1:36:06.880 So God. 1:36:06.920 --> 1:36:09.000 I love them both for different reasons. But I'm gonna 1:36:09.000 --> 1:36:12.080 group them as one, Casey and Jojo. 1:36:14.120 --> 1:36:16.840 I So I get it. I get it. 1:36:17.000 --> 1:36:19.160 So the reason that I group them as they're gonna 1:36:19.160 --> 1:36:21.680 be one. I don't care what everybody says. So I 1:36:22.720 --> 1:36:26.519 mentioned them because remember what I told you about listening 1:36:26.600 --> 1:36:30.560 to feeling for me, that's Casey, Yes, Casey and and 1:36:30.800 --> 1:36:35.200 incredible singer still, but the aggression in his voice and 1:36:35.439 --> 1:36:38.880 just Jojo, we don't talk about like Jojo on. 1:36:38.920 --> 1:36:41.839 A technical level. Insane is insane. 1:36:41.920 --> 1:36:45.439 And I've always always always loved listen and my sisters 1:36:45.479 --> 1:36:48.680 were huge jo Toasy fans when I was a kid, 1:36:48.760 --> 1:36:50.920 and so like I listened to like a lot of 1:36:51.000 --> 1:36:55.479 that like growing up, love them. Let me think of 1:36:55.560 --> 1:36:59.000 somebody that is from like today, that's more like current 1:37:00.280 --> 1:37:05.439 want to do I singer singer singer, because it's different, 1:37:06.160 --> 1:37:09.240 because some people are great singers are not great artists. 1:37:11.000 --> 1:37:12.880 How the fuck did I leave out Jasmine Sullivan? 1:37:14.760 --> 1:37:15.080 I don't know. 1:37:15.520 --> 1:37:21.320 I didn't leave her out. She's yes, Jasmine Jasmine. 1:37:21.400 --> 1:37:23.840 When she sang I'm in love with another man, I 1:37:24.080 --> 1:37:27.920 wasn't even in a relationship, and I felt that he like. 1:37:28.240 --> 1:37:32.080 Am I am? I? I don't have one man, but 1:37:32.680 --> 1:37:33.759 in love with two people? 1:37:34.000 --> 1:37:37.080 Like my home is drier than a Popeye's bis. 1:37:37.560 --> 1:37:39.280 Do I feel this way? Ship? 1:37:39.479 --> 1:37:43.240 Make sure you at leastberry SODA's something. 1:37:43.400 --> 1:37:49.240 No shatto shatto out here, But Jasmine, I love. 1:37:49.560 --> 1:37:50.040 That's four. 1:37:50.720 --> 1:37:51.559 I have one more. 1:37:53.280 --> 1:37:56.200 If I had to pick somebody. Oh, I mean this 1:37:56.400 --> 1:37:58.640 is an older one, but I love his catalog. I 1:37:58.720 --> 1:38:00.320 listened to it all the time, and I'm up says 1:38:01.360 --> 1:38:07.400 it's Rick James. Rick James yeah, and maybe I don't 1:38:07.400 --> 1:38:10.200 know if you guys know his R and B. But no, 1:38:10.880 --> 1:38:14.200 don't do this but Rick James, No, you don't have 1:38:14.360 --> 1:38:18.599 to make no excuses for Rick Rick James. 1:38:19.920 --> 1:38:20.200 Listen. 1:38:20.960 --> 1:38:25.080 Special love Rick James so very much, just like I. 1:38:25.840 --> 1:38:28.400 There's so many James. 1:38:28.479 --> 1:38:30.960 I love a lot of older music. 1:38:31.000 --> 1:38:34.760 I listened to older catalogs all the time because there's 1:38:34.920 --> 1:38:38.040 so many There's so many little tricks in the older 1:38:38.080 --> 1:38:40.560 catalogs and a lot of little gems and things that 1:38:40.640 --> 1:38:42.040 you can get from the older cat So I listened 1:38:42.040 --> 1:38:43.240 to a lot of older catalogs. 1:38:43.280 --> 1:38:45.719 But Three Signs is incredible. 1:38:46.360 --> 1:38:47.519 Rick James just as an artist. 1:38:47.520 --> 1:38:51.639 Side he gave Eddie Murphy a here record and died 1:38:53.360 --> 1:38:56.719 and died like the party all the time, all the time. 1:38:57.280 --> 1:39:01.600 Damn girl, hell is wrong with you? 1:39:01.840 --> 1:39:04.519 Nigga need to remake what of those because they partied 1:39:04.560 --> 1:39:05.960 even more than they was back then. 1:39:06.120 --> 1:39:10.240 Now. Yeah, but I love Rick James, and yeah I will, 1:39:10.439 --> 1:39:15.160 I will and design Yeah Jane, Ebony eyes, come on, 1:39:15.560 --> 1:39:16.439 Ebony eyes. 1:39:16.960 --> 1:39:20.960 Standing on the top for the Temptation. Yeah, Temptation's sad. Listen. 1:39:21.160 --> 1:39:24.120 He yelled at his friends, he did his uncle. They 1:39:24.200 --> 1:39:26.080 got to it. They got to it. 1:39:26.240 --> 1:39:26.640 I love Rick. 1:39:26.920 --> 1:39:29.400 Rick James is one of my favorite singers. There's some 1:39:29.520 --> 1:39:33.719 amazing like singers out now like and just like artists 1:39:33.760 --> 1:39:36.120 out right now. But that I that I also do 1:39:36.280 --> 1:39:38.960 love like you know, I love Isaiah falls Dust and 1:39:39.000 --> 1:39:44.160 Conrad Florida Boys them down. Yeah, I love them, but 1:39:44.320 --> 1:39:46.240 like I definitely and I listened to a lot of 1:39:46.360 --> 1:39:47.680 like new stuff for sure, but. 1:39:49.160 --> 1:39:49.759 Like top. 1:39:51.040 --> 1:39:52.840 You know what, I'm gonna shut up now. 1:39:54.200 --> 1:39:57.040 It's hard. I have so many No, this is we didn't. 1:39:57.120 --> 1:40:00.560 We didn't create this for it to be easy. This 1:40:00.760 --> 1:40:02.559 is a very tough and it might change. 1:40:02.560 --> 1:40:04.120 I might walk out of door and be like, damn, 1:40:04.240 --> 1:40:04.880 I didn't say. 1:40:04.760 --> 1:40:06.160 This person, you're absolutely going to do that. 1:40:06.320 --> 1:40:09.320 Yeah, and this, and if they asked me this in 1:40:09.520 --> 1:40:12.519 twenty other interviews, I answer might change. They do without 1:40:12.560 --> 1:40:13.960 the with the exception of Whitney. 1:40:13.640 --> 1:40:16.080 That's well listen, if they asked you this is another interview, 1:40:16.320 --> 1:40:17.960 I'm going to sing copyrighting. 1:40:20.840 --> 1:40:23.880 They said you gotta pay Tank and Jay because you 1:40:24.360 --> 1:40:25.639 wasn't doing that ship. 1:40:27.160 --> 1:40:31.559 Okay you would, Okay, So we got our artists, our singers. Yeah, 1:40:31.720 --> 1:40:33.680 top five songs to R. 1:40:33.680 --> 1:40:41.040 And B songs, Yes, Jesus Christ God, it's so tough. 1:40:41.600 --> 1:40:44.439 It's unfair question and it should be. 1:40:47.600 --> 1:40:47.920 Okay. 1:40:49.400 --> 1:40:55.960 Bag Lady by Eric Abad is metaphorically probably the greatest 1:40:56.080 --> 1:40:57.840 R and B song ever written. Metaphorically. 1:40:58.600 --> 1:41:01.479 I'm not you don't get our and yeah, I'm never 1:41:01.520 --> 1:41:02.559 gonna argue about Eric, but. 1:41:02.840 --> 1:41:07.599 I love it metaphorically, like the entire song from top 1:41:07.840 --> 1:41:11.760 to bottom is a bar bag Lady. You gonna hurt 1:41:11.800 --> 1:41:14.840 your back dragging all them bags like that. She was 1:41:14.960 --> 1:41:18.959 never talking about a bag, never talk about that baggage, baggage, 1:41:19.080 --> 1:41:21.760 and it is that is a song that like I'm 1:41:21.800 --> 1:41:24.200 a lyric girl, Like one of my favorite things is 1:41:24.680 --> 1:41:26.560 when I can't sleep at night, is I google my 1:41:26.600 --> 1:41:30.479 favorite songs and I read lyrics like poetry, so that 1:41:30.680 --> 1:41:33.600 that's like a past time of mind. And if you 1:41:33.880 --> 1:41:37.120 really read bag Lady like the poetry that it is, 1:41:38.240 --> 1:41:40.880 that song will give you goosebumps and it'll probably even 1:41:40.960 --> 1:41:43.599 strike up a trauma chord in you, like I'm sure 1:41:43.720 --> 1:41:48.080 you will even that song metaphorically is it is so 1:41:48.240 --> 1:41:51.400 damn incredible, Like I love bag Lady. You should be here, 1:41:51.840 --> 1:41:54.640 Raphael Sadik and di'angelo. 1:41:54.360 --> 1:41:59.320 You knowin I Got Molded just some good and some money. 1:41:59.360 --> 1:42:02.599 What else you got? M That's such an incredible song. 1:42:02.920 --> 1:42:06.400 Rob Elsidic is also one of my He's probably in 1:42:06.479 --> 1:42:07.840 my top three favorite writers. 1:42:07.600 --> 1:42:09.639 Of all greatest whoever list, He's one of the greatest. 1:42:10.200 --> 1:42:10.439 Listen. 1:42:10.880 --> 1:42:13.559 I just told him that a week ago. Just told 1:42:13.600 --> 1:42:14.160 him that a week ago. 1:42:14.240 --> 1:42:16.479 I met him in a coffee shop like two months ago, 1:42:16.680 --> 1:42:19.840 like just randomly, and I was like, you know, like 1:42:19.960 --> 1:42:23.880 I try to be professional, and I'm going to be 1:42:24.000 --> 1:42:26.920 professional at all times, but it's certain people that I'm like, 1:42:27.000 --> 1:42:27.559 fuck that shit. 1:42:27.640 --> 1:42:29.519 You don't know you inspired me, damn it. You know 1:42:29.720 --> 1:42:33.960 this shit right listen, you know and love love But. 1:42:34.080 --> 1:42:37.479 That record right there, like R Peter di'angelo, that's such 1:42:37.479 --> 1:42:41.240 an incredible, incredible record. And I don't even know if 1:42:41.280 --> 1:42:43.840 they even realized how much they were like the sound 1:42:43.920 --> 1:42:45.880 that they were even like creating at that time. 1:42:46.360 --> 1:42:49.679 They were just being them. Oh a newer one that's 1:42:49.760 --> 1:42:50.920 like new but not new. 1:42:51.040 --> 1:42:52.880 But I run this record into the floor, and I've 1:42:52.880 --> 1:42:54.800 been running it into the floor for probably seven years. 1:42:55.479 --> 1:43:00.400 CPR by Summer Walker is a special, special, special song 1:43:00.960 --> 1:43:06.160 that is one of the most beautiful songs about being 1:43:06.280 --> 1:43:08.640 pulled from a space of bitterness in love like that 1:43:08.920 --> 1:43:12.640 that record again, I'm a lyric person. How she compared 1:43:13.400 --> 1:43:16.200 getting out of just a space of bitterness to CPR 1:43:16.320 --> 1:43:19.120 and being revived again. I was like, come on, wordplay, 1:43:19.240 --> 1:43:21.760 come on CPR by Summer Walkers in. 1:43:21.760 --> 1:43:22.920 Credib It's a special talent. 1:43:23.200 --> 1:43:23.519 She is. 1:43:23.640 --> 1:43:25.320 I love Summer. I'm a huge fan of Summer. 1:43:26.040 --> 1:43:26.960 Oh this one is. 1:43:27.640 --> 1:43:31.759 This is an older one, but this album is actually 1:43:31.960 --> 1:43:33.639 in my top five of favorite R and B albums 1:43:33.680 --> 1:43:36.200 of all time. All Her Love by Donelle Jones. 1:43:38.880 --> 1:43:44.200 If you know, you know it's that album is arguably, yeah, 1:43:44.560 --> 1:43:44.800 say it. 1:43:45.280 --> 1:43:48.200 Say it because I'm not arguing shit, the. 1:43:48.240 --> 1:43:51.360 Greatest R and B album of the last twenty years. 1:43:51.479 --> 1:43:54.400 Yeah, who's arguing Ruben Irean can't remember anyone. 1:43:54.560 --> 1:43:57.960 I'm not twenty five. Who's arguing you that? Alum? Where 1:43:58.000 --> 1:43:58.519 I want to be? 1:43:59.120 --> 1:43:59.400 Listen? 1:44:02.040 --> 1:44:04.760 That motherfucker told this girl he need time to see 1:44:04.760 --> 1:44:06.879 where he want to be And it stood outside the restaurant, 1:44:06.960 --> 1:44:11.120 stalking her while she was on a date. How it 1:44:11.320 --> 1:44:15.640 doesn't get better than that, sweetled deedle deedle whatever the 1:44:15.680 --> 1:44:20.000 fuck outside the damn restaurant window, Go find. 1:44:19.800 --> 1:44:21.400 Out where the fuck you want to be and leave 1:44:21.439 --> 1:44:21.960 me alone. 1:44:23.840 --> 1:44:25.960 Amazing to Eddie f t. 1:44:27.840 --> 1:44:28.559 Fucking amazing. 1:44:28.680 --> 1:44:29.160 What am I on? 1:44:29.320 --> 1:44:36.519 I said where I want to be? But she gives 1:44:36.560 --> 1:44:38.439 me all her love only half the time. Come on, 1:44:38.680 --> 1:44:41.679 bars bars, but yeah, all her Okay, So we said 1:44:41.680 --> 1:44:43.960 all her love. He's a bad lady, we says CPR. 1:44:44.200 --> 1:44:46.679 We say you should be here, and I will pick 1:44:46.880 --> 1:44:51.360 one more, that greatest R and B song. I love this, Okay, 1:44:51.640 --> 1:44:55.200 so this one because he's my favorite writer. This is 1:44:55.520 --> 1:44:57.759 more of like a party song, but it's it's timeless 1:44:57.880 --> 1:45:00.000 for me, and it's a classic, and it's my favorite. 1:45:00.000 --> 1:45:00.639 It is my list. 1:45:00.680 --> 1:45:03.120 I can say what I want rocking that. 1:45:03.160 --> 1:45:05.640 Shit by the Dream It's incredible. 1:45:08.040 --> 1:45:08.960 Fucking Terrrius. 1:45:10.439 --> 1:45:13.439 That sounds incredible because that's the other thing. 1:45:13.640 --> 1:45:15.519 It just never gets old ages. 1:45:16.560 --> 1:45:19.799 It is not easy to write tempo record, No, especially 1:45:19.880 --> 1:45:23.120 in R and B. No, No, it's not. 1:45:23.640 --> 1:45:27.559 And the crazy thing about it is like especially meaningful. Yes, 1:45:27.920 --> 1:45:30.799 it has substance. It's shady at the same. 1:45:30.720 --> 1:45:32.719 Time substance in shade. 1:45:33.120 --> 1:45:35.800 We love substance shade Terrrius. No one does it better 1:45:35.840 --> 1:45:37.960 than mister Terrius. I've never met him. He's on my 1:45:38.160 --> 1:45:41.040 list of people that like to collab with at some 1:45:41.200 --> 1:45:44.719 point in my career. He's a big inspiration of mine. 1:45:44.880 --> 1:45:50.920 Just such a crazy, such a crazy, crazy crazy pen effortless, 1:45:50.960 --> 1:45:52.400 too effortless. 1:45:52.720 --> 1:45:55.519 But yeah, there's my five, and I'm sure there's more. 1:45:55.600 --> 1:45:57.200 But y'all we're sure. 1:45:57.840 --> 1:46:01.439 I know all these songs released every day, damn it, 1:46:01.760 --> 1:46:02.639 that can't all. 1:46:02.520 --> 1:46:03.320 Be in the top five. 1:46:03.439 --> 1:46:03.840 They can't. 1:46:03.920 --> 1:46:06.479 They can't off in the top five. Okay, Now I 1:46:06.600 --> 1:46:10.240 need your votron. Okay, I need you to build the 1:46:10.560 --> 1:46:14.880 ultimate R and B artists. Here are the elements. Okay, 1:46:16.240 --> 1:46:20.280 who's going to Who's gonna be the voice? Who got 1:46:20.320 --> 1:46:24.120 the stage performance? Who got the fly ship on? Who 1:46:24.200 --> 1:46:28.880 the styling? Who has the passion to make you believe 1:46:29.040 --> 1:46:32.640 all of that ship works? And then who's gonna write them? 1:46:33.200 --> 1:46:34.880 You know about to cuss again? Who gonna write them? 1:46:35.360 --> 1:46:36.120 Terry Wright? 1:46:36.720 --> 1:46:37.559 The dream is writing? 1:46:37.640 --> 1:46:40.040 You going in the wrong order? 1:46:40.240 --> 1:46:43.400 Oh damn? Okay? Sorry, first one voice? 1:46:43.960 --> 1:46:46.160 Come on? Who the latest? Who the leads singing ship? 1:46:46.200 --> 1:46:46.320 Now? 1:46:46.479 --> 1:46:50.720 I just said, lad sing? Who the least sing any 1:46:50.840 --> 1:46:52.480 talking to a Nigga FM Florida. 1:46:52.240 --> 1:46:52.320 So. 1:46:54.520 --> 1:46:56.160 Sing you know what? 1:46:56.320 --> 1:47:01.200 Okay, we are gonna make our lead singer. I want 1:47:01.280 --> 1:47:05.000 somebody that has technique but still feeling which. 1:47:06.560 --> 1:47:10.559 With your executive because your executive curl. 1:47:11.479 --> 1:47:13.800 Listen, you know, I get this this curl, get the 1:47:13.840 --> 1:47:16.519 going there. Who the fuck I'm gonna be? Here's the thing. 1:47:17.439 --> 1:47:21.040 Motherfuckers with technique are like battle rappers, right, so they'd 1:47:21.080 --> 1:47:23.000 be Oh but the lay that I just get all 1:47:23.080 --> 1:47:25.080 right back, But we gotta sell records. 1:47:24.760 --> 1:47:28.400 So much I run, goddamn. 1:47:28.160 --> 1:47:33.040 Running away from the money. But my okay, who's my voice? 1:47:33.400 --> 1:47:34.880 I gotta pick a voice. I gotta pick a voice 1:47:35.120 --> 1:47:37.639 somebody with technique, but that still knows. 1:47:37.520 --> 1:47:39.479 How to deliver, and it can be singing these songs 1:47:39.520 --> 1:47:40.040 for the world. 1:47:40.160 --> 1:47:42.560 Craig sing songs for the world. Oh my god, this 1:47:42.760 --> 1:47:45.400 should not be as fucking hard as it is. I 1:47:45.760 --> 1:47:49.280 hate this question. Oh my god, you know what I 1:47:49.520 --> 1:47:50.800 am going to pick? 1:47:52.120 --> 1:47:52.400 Shit? 1:47:52.800 --> 1:47:56.200 I don't know, Oh god, pick J Balentie. 1:47:57.479 --> 1:48:03.880 Let me say to the that I'm definitely not editing 1:48:03.960 --> 1:48:04.360 that neither. 1:48:04.479 --> 1:48:08.800 No, you're not. Okay, you the first one ever said 1:48:08.880 --> 1:48:11.599 me me, Yay, I'm going with Jay Valentine. 1:48:11.720 --> 1:48:13.840 Damn it, I'm going with j Valentine, right who you 1:48:13.880 --> 1:48:14.880 going with? For real? Okay? 1:48:15.040 --> 1:48:17.479 Damn all right, but I wiggled my way out of 1:48:17.520 --> 1:48:22.120 that one. You know what I'm going, I'm going, Okay. 1:48:22.200 --> 1:48:24.080 Oh my god, if I let you go with me, 1:48:24.520 --> 1:48:26.200 that means they're gonna be telling me I gotta put 1:48:26.240 --> 1:48:26.839 out an album. 1:48:27.160 --> 1:48:29.639 So and I get enough of that abuse. I don't 1:48:29.720 --> 1:48:31.360 need it. It's like me and p Valley. 1:48:31.479 --> 1:48:36.439 Okay, Oh yeah, yeah, I get that. Okay, I am 1:48:36.560 --> 1:48:39.360 going to go, all right, girl, pick somebody. Damn it, 1:48:39.439 --> 1:48:40.680 Who do I love right now? Who? 1:48:40.920 --> 1:48:44.960 Who? Who? Who? This is stupid? 1:48:45.120 --> 1:48:46.240 This shouldn't be this hard. 1:48:46.680 --> 1:48:47.560 Let's let's go. 1:48:47.960 --> 1:48:49.320 I'm sorry, I hate this. 1:48:49.400 --> 1:48:52.000 You gotta have to edit all of this. This I 1:48:52.080 --> 1:48:54.080 help you. It's gonna be music under you. That's what's 1:48:54.080 --> 1:48:55.200 going to help you. Dude. 1:48:57.640 --> 1:49:01.960 Okay, R and B that could sell, But see who 1:49:02.000 --> 1:49:03.640 I have in mind. I don't think she's technically R 1:49:03.680 --> 1:49:03.840 and B. 1:49:04.800 --> 1:49:08.000 She's not your singer. Is your singer? You just pick 1:49:08.040 --> 1:49:12.479 a singer, Yes, your singer is your singer? All right, 1:49:14.000 --> 1:49:21.360 I'm going with you. Know what I'm going. Chloe, Chloe 1:49:21.600 --> 1:49:25.320 is very talented. I'm going Chloe and can sing her 1:49:26.200 --> 1:49:27.840 face off. Yes, Chloe can. 1:49:28.960 --> 1:49:33.160 And Chloe's not She doesn't run from feeling Chloe's Chloe 1:49:33.360 --> 1:49:34.080 is gonna go feeling. 1:49:34.200 --> 1:49:36.120 She's gonna give you that. I'm gonna go Chloe. 1:49:36.240 --> 1:49:40.000 Okay, all right, okay, So who's so Chloe voice. Who's 1:49:40.160 --> 1:49:42.720 gonna be the stage performance? 1:49:43.920 --> 1:49:49.840 Stage performance, stage performance? We are going to go who 1:49:50.400 --> 1:49:52.920 has been you know what? We'll go Victoria money on 1:49:52.960 --> 1:49:57.080 the stage. Yeah, yeah, people go Victoria money on stage. 1:49:57.280 --> 1:50:01.000 Yeah that Victoria ain't fucking a nobody. 1:50:01.120 --> 1:50:02.200 Come on the Jaguars. 1:50:02.360 --> 1:50:04.840 She's not fucking around at all at all. 1:50:05.200 --> 1:50:07.599 If you've seen her on this tour with them, post 1:50:07.840 --> 1:50:09.040 been posting, let me tell you something. 1:50:09.560 --> 1:50:15.080 This every what she was doing to get paid. Have 1:50:15.200 --> 1:50:18.240 you one of your back up you know what happening? 1:50:18.400 --> 1:50:20.560 It's not Nope, not not the Valentine. 1:50:21.320 --> 1:50:23.479 I'm sorry, I will come hang out with you, but 1:50:23.560 --> 1:50:26.720 I'm not coming to We're gonna no back up there 1:50:26.960 --> 1:50:27.439 and saying that. 1:50:27.880 --> 1:50:31.240 Nope, just not happening. We're going Victoria for okay, for sure, 1:50:32.400 --> 1:50:36.040 Victoria for stage styling. Who's gonna put the fly sh 1:50:36.120 --> 1:50:41.879 it on? Styling? Styling? 1:50:42.000 --> 1:50:42.960 Styling styling? 1:50:43.000 --> 1:50:44.799 Who can we dress up ass for Halloween? 1:50:45.920 --> 1:50:49.000 So you don't even want to see my allween, you're 1:50:49.000 --> 1:50:49.639 gonna die. 1:50:49.920 --> 1:50:51.400 I can only imagine. 1:50:51.120 --> 1:50:52.080 It's gonna be hilarious. 1:50:52.120 --> 1:51:02.120 But let me see styling, styling, styling, styling, who has 1:51:02.240 --> 1:51:03.519 been correct? 1:51:05.120 --> 1:51:06.040 Mm, she's not. 1:51:07.960 --> 1:51:11.719 Hip hop R and B R No, yeah, listen, stylin styling. 1:51:11.840 --> 1:51:15.479 We're going dojah on style Doojah is this? You know? 1:51:15.840 --> 1:51:18.559 We're going dojah? We're going is. 1:51:18.760 --> 1:51:22.439 Partially R and B. She is those you can fucking say, she. 1:51:22.479 --> 1:51:24.040 Can sing, she can rap THOSEA is one of the 1:51:24.200 --> 1:51:27.240 greatest artists of our time right now, like and not 1:51:27.320 --> 1:51:28.040 even just right now. 1:51:28.200 --> 1:51:29.799 She's one of the greatest artists. 1:51:29.800 --> 1:51:31.280 And she fully commits. 1:51:31.479 --> 1:51:33.240 Yes, she understands errors. 1:51:33.360 --> 1:51:34.360 That is important. 1:51:34.479 --> 1:51:37.559 People don't understand eras the way that Dojah like understands errors. 1:51:37.680 --> 1:51:39.439 But style, we're going. 1:51:39.600 --> 1:51:42.920 I love dot okay, And now who got the passion? 1:51:42.920 --> 1:51:45.680 Whos gonna make us believe that this artist is the 1:51:45.920 --> 1:51:48.719 greatest voutron of all times. 1:51:51.880 --> 1:51:58.839 The passion, the passion, the passion, the passion for passion. 1:52:00.600 --> 1:52:02.040 Oh, this is a good one. 1:52:04.160 --> 1:52:07.040 Passion ship not to edit this one too? 1:52:07.560 --> 1:52:14.200 Damn, fuck damn, fuck damn. 1:52:17.280 --> 1:52:21.559 The passion. Who has the passion right now? 1:52:24.640 --> 1:52:24.800 Hm? 1:52:24.880 --> 1:52:27.840 Hm, damn you don't have to be right now of 1:52:27.920 --> 1:52:28.360 all time? 1:52:28.439 --> 1:52:34.080 Who got the It could be anybody. Yeah, okay, you 1:52:34.240 --> 1:52:37.320 know what we want to talk about passion. We want 1:52:37.400 --> 1:52:38.280 Bobby Brown. 1:52:40.400 --> 1:52:44.360 H every now and then. 1:52:45.920 --> 1:52:49.000 I got so many theories on Bobby, so many. 1:52:50.520 --> 1:52:52.720 I catch myself on YouTube. 1:52:53.960 --> 1:52:58.080 Watching Bobby Brown performances either at awards shows, live and 1:52:58.200 --> 1:53:01.320 such and such, and I am so entertained. 1:53:02.960 --> 1:53:08.880 I love Bobby Brown. Brown is a national treasure. 1:53:09.040 --> 1:53:11.640 Yeah, and you want to know something crazy like she 1:53:11.760 --> 1:53:15.840 makes barbecue, so he does. Like even with Chris Brown, 1:53:15.920 --> 1:53:18.839 for example, I love a huge about. 1:53:18.600 --> 1:53:19.080 The Brown name. 1:53:19.400 --> 1:53:19.920 Something about the. 1:53:19.880 --> 1:53:23.360 Brown name Brown, Chris Brown, Bobby Brown, Jane, Orlando Brobby 1:53:24.200 --> 1:53:25.960 or Orlando is Orlando Brown? 1:53:26.640 --> 1:53:28.680 Who gonna win the fight? Orlando Brown or ray J? 1:53:28.880 --> 1:53:31.040 They about to fight for real, They about to have 1:53:31.160 --> 1:53:34.360 a celectrity box about you know what. It's random, but. 1:53:34.640 --> 1:53:37.280 Ray J might lose just because Orlando. I don't know 1:53:37.280 --> 1:53:38.479 if you can knock a crack it out? 1:53:38.520 --> 1:53:39.560 What is he a cracky. 1:53:43.520 --> 1:53:44.120 He's something. 1:53:44.640 --> 1:53:46.400 I just know, motherfuckers that be on that ship. You 1:53:46.400 --> 1:53:49.880 ain't knocking him out. I hope he crack it might not. 1:53:50.000 --> 1:53:52.240 I don't know him. It might be something, so I 1:53:52.360 --> 1:53:55.120 hope not. But I love Bobby. I think that. 1:53:55.479 --> 1:53:57.120 What I was gonna say is that like even with 1:53:57.240 --> 1:54:01.160 Chris Brown and in all his greatness when but like Michael, 1:54:01.200 --> 1:54:03.439 Michael Michael, and yes we see the Michael influence. 1:54:03.760 --> 1:54:06.400 But there's a lot of Bobby Brown in there too. Yes, 1:54:06.640 --> 1:54:07.760 there's a ton of Bobby Brown in. 1:54:07.760 --> 1:54:10.280 There, even the career like the ye, the bad boy, 1:54:10.400 --> 1:54:13.479 the controvert, like all the things, like yes, like for sure, 1:54:13.600 --> 1:54:17.160 Bobby's that guy. Bobby was like, who give me this 1:54:17.280 --> 1:54:19.639 mic and get the fuck out of my way? Bobby 1:54:19.680 --> 1:54:21.200 did what the hell he had to the guy. 1:54:21.040 --> 1:54:21.719 Out his business? 1:54:22.280 --> 1:54:26.760 Right, Okay, who's gonna write the song dream a right? 1:54:27.040 --> 1:54:28.640 Because we said to him earlier, but I want you 1:54:28.680 --> 1:54:33.920 to say it again. Nood I forgot Yeah, Okay, we 1:54:34.000 --> 1:54:37.080 need hits, that's what we got. And he got hits 1:54:37.160 --> 1:54:38.480 on top of good lord. 1:54:38.640 --> 1:54:43.120 Yeah, he breathes its like he just takes a breath. 1:54:43.200 --> 1:54:43.320 Hit. 1:54:45.360 --> 1:54:45.920 This is true. 1:54:46.080 --> 1:54:47.080 Yeah, that's true. 1:54:47.400 --> 1:54:49.480 Okay, we know one more thing before I let you 1:54:49.560 --> 1:54:52.480 out of here. Okay, and don't act like you weren't prepared, 1:54:52.840 --> 1:54:54.920 because I know you know, I know you know what. 1:54:55.080 --> 1:55:00.240 What's what's on the way, play of jams, plenty of jamser. 1:55:02.160 --> 1:55:06.680 I ain't saying no nature, saying no names, saying no names, 1:55:07.040 --> 1:55:08.040 ain't saying no name. 1:55:11.320 --> 1:55:12.040 What you did? 1:55:12.720 --> 1:55:18.520 Don't say? She ain't saying no name. 1:55:24.920 --> 1:55:30.000 We've arrived. We've arrived. We have arrived at this very 1:55:30.280 --> 1:55:32.440 very important part of this show. 1:55:33.080 --> 1:55:33.360 Lord. 1:55:33.600 --> 1:55:35.280 A lot of people will say it's their favorite part 1:55:35.320 --> 1:55:38.120 of the show. What I've heard in the streets the 1:55:38.280 --> 1:55:43.160 name of the game. I ain't saying no names. Will 1:55:43.200 --> 1:55:47.400 you tell us a story funny or fucked up? Are 1:55:47.600 --> 1:55:52.080 funny and fucked up? The only rule to this game 1:55:53.360 --> 1:55:55.640 is she can't say no name. 1:55:55.960 --> 1:56:00.720 I won't, Lord, what they doing out here? What you what? 1:56:00.800 --> 1:56:09.880 You didn't do? What you inexperienced out here? Oh Ship? 1:56:10.680 --> 1:56:13.000 Because you didn't tell me some funny ones before I did. 1:56:14.520 --> 1:56:16.560 There's some there's some funny ones, but you know some 1:56:16.760 --> 1:56:17.000 of them. 1:56:17.040 --> 1:56:21.320 It's like, I can't the dance is yours? 1:56:22.120 --> 1:56:26.280 Mm hmm, what's the fun Do I have a funny one? 1:56:27.760 --> 1:56:28.400 I fucked up? 1:56:30.000 --> 1:56:30.240 Damn? 1:56:30.520 --> 1:56:33.320 Are so funny as fucked up? So fucked up? It's funny? 1:56:35.640 --> 1:56:41.200 You see what I did that, Oh Ship? This is 1:56:41.480 --> 1:56:42.040 oh man? 1:56:42.600 --> 1:56:46.120 See I got some good ones. But they probably watch 1:56:46.200 --> 1:56:46.640 a podcast. 1:56:46.680 --> 1:56:53.280 They're gonna be like, bitch, ain't saying your name, Okay, okay, 1:56:54.600 --> 1:56:54.960 all right. 1:56:56.960 --> 1:56:59.920 So one time I. 1:57:02.120 --> 1:57:05.840 Called to the studio to write some R and B 1:57:06.000 --> 1:57:11.520 records and I was like, okay, So I get to 1:57:11.600 --> 1:57:13.560 the studio and there's like. 1:57:15.760 --> 1:57:20.600 Fifteen street niggas in the room, and I'm. 1:57:20.480 --> 1:57:25.200 Like, for R and B, that all cool, all good, 1:57:25.240 --> 1:57:27.520 and I just, you know, I walk in there, it's 1:57:27.520 --> 1:57:31.040 all good. So you know, again, me with myself, when 1:57:31.040 --> 1:57:33.320 I go in rooms, I'm just very observant, and especially 1:57:33.360 --> 1:57:37.240 when I see too much of one thing, I'm paying 1:57:37.360 --> 1:57:43.120 very close attention to my surroundings. So the person that 1:57:44.040 --> 1:57:48.680 that was leading the session, I guess he was a 1:57:48.840 --> 1:57:53.480 little under the influence, so he started kind of getting 1:57:53.480 --> 1:57:55.840 a little like demanding to the room. 1:57:56.200 --> 1:58:00.720 It's like, bring me to Hookah, come over here and 1:58:00.800 --> 1:58:02.200 take it back and bring it over there. 1:58:03.400 --> 1:58:07.800 And this poor intern is getting ran ragged, and I'm 1:58:07.960 --> 1:58:09.920 just like, oh my god, I feel so bad for 1:58:10.000 --> 1:58:13.000 this person. So we go in the in the booth, 1:58:13.520 --> 1:58:16.800 and which I don't even like booths to begin with, 1:58:17.480 --> 1:58:20.840 but we're in the booth and because we're writing and 1:58:21.840 --> 1:58:24.120 freestyling and writing a little bit at the same time, 1:58:24.360 --> 1:58:28.160 and it's fifteen, it's just it's a lot going on. 1:58:28.400 --> 1:58:35.000 So the other producer could hear me saying the lines 1:58:35.320 --> 1:58:41.400 to this writer and he goes, why don't you just 1:58:41.560 --> 1:58:47.280 let she record it? And I don't know who or 1:58:47.400 --> 1:58:50.160 what told him to say that, but that, for whatever 1:58:50.360 --> 1:58:56.640 reason triggered this person and he goes, what the fuck. 1:58:56.480 --> 1:58:57.400 You just told me to do? 1:58:57.760 --> 1:58:58.320 And I was like. 1:59:00.040 --> 1:59:01.960 Sitting in the back and I'm like, he gotta be joking. 1:59:02.720 --> 1:59:07.200 So everybody's laughing, oh ha ha ha. His dude storms 1:59:07.320 --> 1:59:10.880 out the booth, looks at the in turn that. 1:59:11.000 --> 1:59:12.520 Is like, go in there and get the hookah because 1:59:12.520 --> 1:59:13.640 he's got the hookah in the booth. 1:59:13.880 --> 1:59:17.080 This is obnoxious behavior going there and get the hookah. 1:59:17.320 --> 1:59:18.920 It goes thep to the producer and it's like, what 1:59:19.040 --> 1:59:20.720 the fuck you just fucking told me to let this 1:59:20.800 --> 1:59:24.400 girl record? And they're like, bro, she's feeding you the 1:59:24.480 --> 1:59:28.200 lines like just let her do it, motherfucker. 1:59:28.200 --> 1:59:29.880 You can't fuck it down me how to ride a song. 1:59:29.800 --> 1:59:32.800 And this and that, and they're going off and then 1:59:32.840 --> 1:59:37.520 I'm looking and I'm like, oh, there are firearms in 1:59:37.600 --> 1:59:41.440 this room, and there are tension. Tension is like raising, 1:59:42.320 --> 1:59:44.680 and I'm texting my whole boy, what are my really 1:59:44.720 --> 1:59:48.240 close friends. And I'm like, hey, I'm about to exit 1:59:48.400 --> 1:59:53.120 left because I'm not doing this. And they're literally arguing 1:59:53.360 --> 1:59:58.240 back and forth like two babies, all because one person 1:59:58.360 --> 2:00:00.480 told the other person to just let me. 2:00:00.560 --> 2:00:03.960 Record the reference. So I was just like, hey, you know, 2:00:04.080 --> 2:00:05.320 you can record the reference. 2:00:05.400 --> 2:00:06.320 I don't have to do it. 2:00:07.120 --> 2:00:11.400 But by this time it's already up, so the other 2:00:11.520 --> 2:00:14.360 producers trying to calm the situation down, the other men 2:00:14.440 --> 2:00:16.200 that are in the room. That's when I realize, oh, 2:00:16.280 --> 2:00:17.720 y'all don't even fucking write songs. 2:00:17.800 --> 2:00:18.360 Y'all just here. 2:00:19.560 --> 2:00:23.080 So it was just like tension was just getting super 2:00:23.320 --> 2:00:27.080 super high there are well, one person was arguing, the 2:00:27.200 --> 2:00:29.360 other one is like laughing at the situation. 2:00:30.120 --> 2:00:31.320 Mid argument, he's like, and. 2:00:31.360 --> 2:00:32.160 Where's the hookah? 2:00:32.200 --> 2:00:34.160 And I'm like, you gotta be fucking kidding me. At 2:00:34.200 --> 2:00:37.760 this point, you still screaming for this day of hookah. Meanwhile, 2:00:37.840 --> 2:00:39.920 I'm like, y'all, we're in here writing R and B. 2:00:40.120 --> 2:00:42.080 I don't know a single R and B song that 2:00:42.160 --> 2:00:46.640 requires hookah, guns, arguments and any of this energy, but 2:00:46.760 --> 2:00:48.640 I know that I'm about to get the fuck on, 2:00:49.040 --> 2:00:49.760 like I'm leaving. 2:00:49.880 --> 2:00:51.240 Yeah, this is a new era of R and B. 2:00:51.480 --> 2:00:54.040 It's a new era of R and B. And honestly, 2:00:54.920 --> 2:00:58.400 this is like a light story. But they they ended 2:00:58.480 --> 2:01:02.040 up like call me down and everything. They ended up 2:01:02.080 --> 2:01:04.080 calming down and stuff. But that did not stop me 2:01:04.160 --> 2:01:08.040 from getting the fuck on. Needless to say, these R 2:01:08.040 --> 2:01:10.160 and B songs never came out. I don't even know 2:01:10.200 --> 2:01:11.680 if these R and B songs were ever even the. 2:01:11.720 --> 2:01:12.880 Hookah records would never drop. 2:01:12.960 --> 2:01:14.480 The Hookah records were never dropped. 2:01:14.920 --> 2:01:18.400 They they never came out, but it was It was 2:01:18.440 --> 2:01:21.680 pretty hilarious because it was a pretty big writer and producer, 2:01:21.800 --> 2:01:25.600 and the producer was even just so puzzled, like, what 2:01:25.720 --> 2:01:26.960 the fuck is even happening here? 2:01:28.040 --> 2:01:28.760 Is Hookah. 2:01:30.200 --> 2:01:30.560 Legend? 2:01:30.640 --> 2:01:30.880 Has it? 2:01:30.960 --> 2:01:35.320 It's still on the way you left because I fucking 2:01:35.400 --> 2:01:36.040 got the hell on. 2:01:39.040 --> 2:01:40.200 Oh man, poor kid. 2:01:40.280 --> 2:01:42.240 And I just looked at the intern before I walked out, 2:01:42.280 --> 2:01:44.280 and I said, hey, honey, you know you don't have 2:01:44.360 --> 2:01:46.760 to deal with this, right, Hey, when people are mean 2:01:46.800 --> 2:01:47.720 the interns. 2:01:47.480 --> 2:01:48.440 Yeah that's just not cool. 2:01:49.160 --> 2:01:50.360 But yeah, there's something light. 2:01:50.520 --> 2:01:52.480 I have other stories, guys, but you guys are gonna 2:01:52.480 --> 2:01:54.240 have to wait like another twenty thirty years before I 2:01:54.280 --> 2:01:56.360 could tell those No, it's. 2:01:56.200 --> 2:01:56.720 Gonna be tough. 2:01:56.920 --> 2:01:57.800 You already got them. 2:01:58.600 --> 2:01:59.960 Yeah, we sat in the studio in day. 2:02:00.080 --> 2:02:04.040 You got a lot of tea. Yeah, but that's that's 2:02:04.040 --> 2:02:04.640 the one I got. 2:02:05.200 --> 2:02:07.280 The other ones are I love it. That's funny. That's 2:02:07.360 --> 2:02:07.880 really funny. 2:02:08.040 --> 2:02:11.160 It's actually it's like, I know, the firearms make it 2:02:11.240 --> 2:02:13.560 sound serious, but it's Atlanta whatever. 2:02:14.000 --> 2:02:15.240 Yeah, Drake, I. 2:02:15.240 --> 2:02:17.840 Already knew it was Atlanta when you said too, he 2:02:17.880 --> 2:02:19.840 said to hookah r and b hookah. 2:02:19.600 --> 2:02:21.640 Guns Atlanta easy. 2:02:22.720 --> 2:02:26.520 So yeah, there we go. That's what I got. This 2:02:26.640 --> 2:02:29.120 has been amazing. I had a blast and I really 2:02:29.200 --> 2:02:31.720 appreciate you pulling up on me. Thank you for having me. 2:02:31.760 --> 2:02:34.720 Really cool and I'm glad that you were here to 2:02:34.840 --> 2:02:38.040 give this type of information. Yeah, because people need to 2:02:39.280 --> 2:02:42.480 from the young oh male. 2:02:42.360 --> 2:02:43.240 Female. 2:02:44.680 --> 2:02:44.920 Need it. 2:02:45.120 --> 2:02:45.720 They need this. 2:02:46.000 --> 2:02:48.840 They need to hear how this is really done and 2:02:49.000 --> 2:02:52.560 the process of it, all the sacrifices of it, all. 2:02:54.600 --> 2:02:59.440 The acceptance, the putting your ego to the side. It's 2:02:59.440 --> 2:03:02.400 a big part of it. This is a huge part 2:03:02.480 --> 2:03:04.360 of how this really works. 2:03:04.480 --> 2:03:08.440 Instead of being the person that's on the sideline talking 2:03:08.520 --> 2:03:12.120 about all these people are evil, I can't get my shot, 2:03:12.800 --> 2:03:14.120 and you had your shot. 2:03:14.320 --> 2:03:17.600 And you weren't open to it. You didn't allow it 2:03:17.720 --> 2:03:20.000 to come into your life. You didn't listen to God. 2:03:20.440 --> 2:03:22.800 No obeience is a big part of it. 2:03:23.560 --> 2:03:25.920 And also like just in closing line, you know we're 2:03:25.960 --> 2:03:28.680 wrapping up and everything, but the bottom line is like 2:03:29.640 --> 2:03:33.640 nobody is going to give you shit, right and even 2:03:33.720 --> 2:03:35.920 if they do give you shit, you still have a 2:03:36.000 --> 2:03:38.000 job to do, you know what I mean. Even if 2:03:38.040 --> 2:03:40.840 there is somebody that is kind enough or gracious enough 2:03:40.880 --> 2:03:43.440 to extend something to you, they can put you in 2:03:43.480 --> 2:03:45.560 the room. What you do when you're in there, that's 2:03:45.640 --> 2:03:47.760 all on you. Nobody can't, you know what I mean? 2:03:47.880 --> 2:03:49.760 Like these hits on right themselves. You want them to 2:03:49.760 --> 2:03:51.400 write you to hit and give you the credit, doesn't. 2:03:51.200 --> 2:03:53.040 It doesn't work that way. Show up and show out. 2:03:53.160 --> 2:03:54.320 You have to show up and show out. 2:03:54.360 --> 2:03:57.760 And you know, just if you run into a situation 2:03:57.840 --> 2:03:59.480 where you feel like, you know, I've been done wrong 2:03:59.680 --> 2:04:02.640 or these people aren't fair to me or whatever, just 2:04:02.760 --> 2:04:05.840 remember Eddie Murphy and Will Smith don't have a movie together. 2:04:06.160 --> 2:04:09.040 You ain't gotta work with them, and you'll still be successful. 2:04:09.040 --> 2:04:11.480 And you know what, God bless them, maybe they'll still 2:04:11.520 --> 2:04:14.440 be successful too. It's okay. You don't got to wish 2:04:14.480 --> 2:04:17.960 people bad. You just go find your circle of people, absolutely, 2:04:18.080 --> 2:04:21.080 you know, and you'll be fine. But you know that 2:04:21.160 --> 2:04:25.520 whole saying, I have this thing where I'm just like people. 2:04:25.600 --> 2:04:27.640 You say things and people say, oh, that's cliche, But 2:04:28.280 --> 2:04:30.760 cliches are only cliches because everybody says it. But if 2:04:30.760 --> 2:04:34.960 everybody says it, it must be true. So when they say, like, 2:04:35.160 --> 2:04:38.040 it doesn't get easier you get better, that is cliche 2:04:38.080 --> 2:04:38.600 as the sounds. 2:04:38.640 --> 2:04:40.800 It's the truth. This shit doesn't get easier. 2:04:41.240 --> 2:04:43.080 The further and further that you go, the bigger the 2:04:43.120 --> 2:04:46.600 records get, the more crazy the politics get, the harder 2:04:46.680 --> 2:04:49.600 it gets. But you do get better at learning how 2:04:49.720 --> 2:04:54.080 to navigate the bs and learning to like not take 2:04:54.160 --> 2:04:56.560 everything so personal, not like they're out to get me, 2:04:57.120 --> 2:04:59.160 you know what I mean. People, if someone's a fuck 2:04:59.200 --> 2:05:01.240 the person, just a fuck a person, you know what 2:05:01.280 --> 2:05:03.480 I mean, It's not always personal to you, And all 2:05:03.520 --> 2:05:05.240 you know to yourself is like, Okay, I don't. 2:05:05.040 --> 2:05:05.640 Have to deal with that. 2:05:05.800 --> 2:05:07.800 But the people that you do do good business with, 2:05:08.600 --> 2:05:12.640 keep them, protect them, keep those relationships, relationships, keep those relationships, 2:05:12.680 --> 2:05:15.240 protect them with your life and even if you have 2:05:15.400 --> 2:05:17.440 like two or three or four people that you're like, 2:05:17.560 --> 2:05:20.080 you know what, every time we get in, we make magic. 2:05:20.160 --> 2:05:21.880 We're making money you need. 2:05:22.160 --> 2:05:25.080 Yeah, you'd be all right. I love that. Thanks, I 2:05:25.200 --> 2:05:25.440 love that. 2:05:25.960 --> 2:05:30.960 Thanks for pulling up. Protect the Valentine. Okay, protective. I 2:05:31.000 --> 2:05:32.360 don't know from what, but just protect me. 2:05:32.400 --> 2:05:33.760 Okay, I'm protecting you. 2:05:34.200 --> 2:05:37.120 It's fine. Me and my flamingos were pulling up and 2:05:37.280 --> 2:05:41.160 the bodyguard. Could you imagine that? Me, flamingos and a bodyguard. 2:05:41.880 --> 2:05:45.560 What on the way, it's a movie? Oh yeah, that 2:05:45.720 --> 2:05:52.200 is absolutely what you are. You are a movie coming soon. 2:05:52.680 --> 2:05:57.720 The movie's coming soon. Save Valentine. This is a chic. 2:05:59.640 --> 2:06:02.800 You've been tuned into R and B money. We love you. 2:06:04.080 --> 2:06:06.360 Don't beat me up in the comments this week. Okay, guys,