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Speaker 1: Many books, but one you might want to pick up

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Speaker 1: pretty quickly. Here you will own nothing, Carol. Okay, we

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Speaker 4: So basically this has been going on. Honestly, for a

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Speaker 4: So these are these huge tech companies that have absorbed,

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Speaker 5: It's you know, it's a good question. What happens.

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Speaker 4: Certainly, we've seen companies like Lockheed Martin's stock go up

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Speaker 4: It's something that we don't want to involve ourselves in,

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Speaker 1: Jesse, war, what a shock The defense contractors are doing okay,

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Speaker 2: Seen that before.

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Speaker 1: Carol, you are the best.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You might want to go pick up her book, You

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Speaker 1: Will Own Nothing, learn a lot about who's actually running

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Speaker 2: The world, what they want for you, for me.

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Speaker 1: worth picking up. All right, So let's shift gears on

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Speaker 1: off all this dark economic news and patriotism in America.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the VP dome. Dome's supposed to roll

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Speaker 1: out her VP pick tomorrow. Is it gonna be Shapiro?

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Speaker 1: Sure looks like it's gonna be Shapiro. Seawn Spice is

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Speaker 1: gonna analyze all that force in just the moment before

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Speaker 1: Sean does that, I'm gonna analyze something for you, your sleep,

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Speaker 1: more specifically, what you take to sleep. Everyone has a

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Speaker 1: thing when they don't feel like they're gonna sleep. I

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Speaker 1: hope you don't take something every day, but when they

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Speaker 1: don't feel like they're gonna sleep, a thing they take. Listen,

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Speaker 1: there are a bunch of things that can help you sleep,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of things that will put you to sleep.

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Speaker 1: I have found exactly one thing in my entire life

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Speaker 1: that I can take to sleep and I will feel

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Speaker 1: amazing when I wake up. And that is dream powder

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Speaker 1: from being It's all natural melotone and things like that.

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Speaker 1: It's hot chocolate, really the mind's cinnamon chocolate. I warm

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Speaker 1: up a glass of milk, mix it up. It's delicious

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Speaker 1: cup of hot chocolate. I just sit there, read the book,

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Speaker 1: watch TV, sipping on it, and I'll drift off to sleep. Okay, good.

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Speaker 1: But when I wake up, I don't feel groggy. I

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Speaker 1: don't feel half dead. I don't feel like my body

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Speaker 1: weighs five hundred pounds. I feel amazing. That is the difference.

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Speaker 1: What off Shopbeam dot com slash.

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Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly, we'll be back.

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Speaker 1: VP. It's weird that Dome picking her VP is almost

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Speaker 1: like a tenth tier issue. Today there's World War three,

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Speaker 1: the markets are crashing. But Kamala Harris, who really worked

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Speaker 1: hard to earn that nomination, is now going to make

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Speaker 1: her selection. And who are they going to pick? And why?

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Speaker 1: And remember, they don't think the way we think. They

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Speaker 1: don't think the way you think, They don't think the

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Speaker 1: way I think.

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Speaker 2: Is it? Mark Kelly?

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Speaker 1: Is it gonna be this loser in Minnesota walls. Is

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Speaker 1: it gonna be shippee? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Let's ask Sean joining me now.

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Speaker 1: My friend Shawn Spicer, host of The Sewn Spicer Show.

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Speaker 1: He always has all the good inside juice on all

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Speaker 1: this stuff. Okay, Sean, I understand everybody and their brother

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Speaker 1: thinks it's Shapiro, and if I had to bet, I

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Speaker 1: would bet it's Shapiro. But let's be honest, Shapiro's jewition.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't land that well in the Democrat Party anymore.

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Speaker 1: It's weird how times have changed. But who's it going

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Speaker 1: to be and why?

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Speaker 6: I still think Shapiro makes the most sense. If I

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Speaker 6: could take nineteen electoral votes and get a better chance

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Speaker 6: of getting them, that would make my life a lot

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Speaker 6: easier if I were her. I think electorally he makes

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Speaker 6: the best sense. I talked to a couple of Democrats

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Speaker 6: about what you were just saying, I mean, like big

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Speaker 6: time player Democrats, and they said to me, in response

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Speaker 6: to this accusation about anti Semitism, which is unbelievably running

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Speaker 6: high in the Democratic Party, they said, where are they

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Speaker 6: going to go? And I guess in a way that

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Speaker 6: that's I get why they're thinking that way. I find

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Speaker 6: it ironic that a party that loves to throw arrows

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Speaker 6: the way they do has such an open problem with

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Speaker 6: anti Semitism in their ranks. And I also think it's

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Speaker 6: sad to see a guy like Josh Shapiro, who is

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Speaker 6: very proud clearly of his religion, backpad Ale the way

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Speaker 6: he is he's embarrassed, which continues to show that not

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Speaker 6: just Kamba Harris, but potentially Shapiro, it's they stand for

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Speaker 6: whatever they need to stand for at the moment. Josh

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Speaker 6: Shapiro should be very proud of his religion and saying,

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Speaker 6: you know, I'm a proud to you, I'm proud of

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Speaker 6: Israel and its role in the Middle East. And yet

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Speaker 6: here he is apologizing for standing firm on Israel and

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Speaker 6: and and afraid of the work that he did in college.

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Speaker 2: I did a lot of things in college.

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Speaker 6: I'm not proud of, but standing up for Israel is

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Speaker 6: not one of them that I would be embarrassed about.

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Speaker 6: And anyway, I just it's now, I mean, it might

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Speaker 6: as well be him, because they're literally both seem to

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Speaker 6: be willing to say or do whatever it takes to

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Speaker 6: whomever they're talking to.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Sean, let me dig into this a little bit

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Speaker 1: deeper with you, because I am curious how big of

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Speaker 1: a problem this, you know, hamas lover base of theirs,

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Speaker 1: actually is because there's so much Look, it's an overused phrase,

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Speaker 1: but there's so much gaslighting today. There are so many

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Speaker 1: paid organizations, paid protesters, paid this paid dad, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I never know whether I'm seeing the same thousand

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Speaker 1: faces on the news every night, one at Columbia and

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Speaker 1: they fly to Berkeley and do it the next day,

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Speaker 1: or if they have a legitimate, you know, two hundred

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Speaker 1: and five hundred thousand person problem.

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Speaker 2: Who hates Jews?

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Speaker 1: Your Democrat friends, how big of a problem do they.

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Speaker 2: Think this is.

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Speaker 6: It's an interesting question you're asking, Jesse, because they all

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Speaker 6: acknowledge it's a problem. But their answer is, well, when

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Speaker 6: it comes to voting, they're not going to vote for Trump.

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Speaker 6: My my concern if I were them, would be that's fine,

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Speaker 6: But there's also a third option we have, which is

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Speaker 6: not to vote. And in a state like Michigan that

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Speaker 6: was won by ten thousand, seven hundred and three votes

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Speaker 6: in twenty sixteen, I would be very concerned about those

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Speaker 6: sixteen electoral votes. If I were them, they seem to

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Speaker 6: have it in their mind. Where By the way, that's

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Speaker 6: the reason we bring that up is there's a very

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Speaker 6: large population of Arab Americans there. I would think it's

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Speaker 6: a problem.

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Speaker 1: I also think that we're overlooking young people.

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Speaker 6: So you look at a state like Wisconsin, where you've

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Speaker 6: got Madison, huge, huge population of college students that tend

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Speaker 6: to vote Democrat.

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Speaker 5: If they're disillusioned, if.

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Speaker 6: They really are rallying around this thing, then that's a problem.

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Speaker 6: And remember again, Madison, Wisconsin was won by two tenths

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Speaker 6: of a point last cycle. So these are margins that

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Speaker 6: you're playing on the edge of in both campaigns. And

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Speaker 6: if I was Harris, I think that they have to

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Speaker 6: factor it in. All that being said, I would rather

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Speaker 6: take Shapiro's and hope that he can get me Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 6: No one else wal I mean, Waltz gets you Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: I get it was in play with Biden. I don't

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Speaker 6: think it's really that in play anymore. Mark Kelly, I

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Speaker 6: don't think it gets you Arizona. I think Trump still

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Speaker 6: wins Arizona. And so all that being said, and this

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Speaker 6: is the first time in my lifetime that would ever

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Speaker 6: argue that you're actually using a VP to get you

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Speaker 6: something right. Most vps are additive in the sense that

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Speaker 6: they they you know, penns helped with the evangelicals, but

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Speaker 6: they the voters weren't going to go anywhere else. It

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Speaker 6: reinforces something that the candidate needs to have reinforced. Quail

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Speaker 6: added youth to Bush, but it wasn't like they were

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Speaker 6: going anywhere. Biden added foreign policy to the newly senator

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Speaker 6: from Illinois Obama. So, but I think in this case,

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Speaker 6: if Josh Shapiro can legitimately put Pennsylvania in play, there

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Speaker 6: is a political reason to put him on the ticket.

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Speaker 6: That being said, the other thing is apparently they're the

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Speaker 6: only two that have any Kamala Harris and Josh Shapiro

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Speaker 6: are the only two of the finalists that have any

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Speaker 6: kind of personal previous relationship.

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Speaker 1: She's okay, Now, let's talk about Kamala for a moment.

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Speaker 1: She's had a bounce in the polls, There's no question

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Speaker 1: about it. Every poll is different. She's up to she's

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Speaker 1: down three, but she's not down like Joe Biden was down.

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Speaker 1: That at least has been fairly consistent across all of them. Now,

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Speaker 1: what are we seeing here, Sean. Is this just the

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Speaker 1: all out propaganda push from the Democrats and their friends

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Speaker 1: in the media that does work, It can effectively bring

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Speaker 1: you up for a time. Is this the honeymoon phase

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Speaker 1: that's about to end? Or are we looking at it

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Speaker 1: yet another one to two percent presidential race.

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Speaker 2: What's your instinct on this?

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Speaker 1: Well, two things.

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Speaker 6: First of all, like if this pen was the one

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Speaker 6: thing that you didn't like about Democrats and I put

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Speaker 6: the pen over here in a way, I mean, that's

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Speaker 6: what Kamala Harris effectively did when they got rid of Biden.

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Speaker 6: They pushed him out of the way. They took away

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Speaker 6: the biggest impediment to Democrats and independents who had problems

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Speaker 6: voting for them.

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Speaker 2: They got rid of it.

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Speaker 6: So she defaults to being the Democrat that they can

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Speaker 6: live with. They don't like her, but she's just not Biden.

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Speaker 6: Now she got a sugar high again. You replace the

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Speaker 6: one impediment that you have with anything else. People go,

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Speaker 6: oh cool, okay, good, so she's riding a sugar high.

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Speaker 6: But look, you talked about this just a second ago.

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Speaker 6: Look around the world today looked domestically today, and you

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Speaker 6: realize the Biden Harris policies are a problem. The number

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Speaker 6: one issue that voters care about it is the economy.

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Speaker 6: What happened today scares people. It scares people who are

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Speaker 6: working today, who have savings, who are hoping retired, scares

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Speaker 6: retirees who are living on a four oh one k

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Speaker 6: or an ira.

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Speaker 1: People are genuinely concerned today.

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Speaker 6: About the state of the world, whether or not we're

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Speaker 6: on the precipice of a world war, whether or not

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Speaker 6: what's going on in the Middle East bleeds into us

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Speaker 6: to some other way, the economic implications of this market cratering.

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Speaker 6: And that's because of these policies on both sides. And

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Speaker 6: the one thing that Trump can say that neither one

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Speaker 6: of them can say is you may not like me,

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Speaker 6: you may not like some of the things that I've

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Speaker 6: said or done, But for four years this country was

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Speaker 6: safer and more prosperous under me than it is for them.

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Speaker 6: There might have been chaos in my White House, but

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Speaker 6: the world was safe and calm. They might have a

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Speaker 6: boring White House, but the world has turned into a

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Speaker 6: chaotic nightmare under their watch. That is an unbelievably succinct

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Speaker 6: argument that they can make based on their record. It's

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Speaker 6: not promises. It's not hypothetical. I will promise you I

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Speaker 6: will do this, I will appoint this. Trump can literally

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Speaker 6: point at his record and say, for four years I

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Speaker 6: did the job. The world was safer, the country was

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Speaker 6: more prosperous, the country was safer under my leadership. Do

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Speaker 6: you want more of that or more of the nuttiness

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Speaker 6: that's going on now?

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Speaker 1: No doubt, John, Thank you, my friend. Go Do you

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Speaker 1: want that kind of wisdom every day? Go watch Sean Spicer.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: That's how I get smarter. All right?

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Speaker 1: The churches, the Olympics going all full demon but all

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Speaker 1: that other stuff. What are my thoughts on it? Well,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk to Megan Basham about that next.

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Speaker 1: You've heard me talk to you many, many, many times

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Speaker 1: about America's Christian Church, about the failings of America's Christian Church.

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Speaker 1: The apathy of Christians in this country is something that

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Speaker 1: makes my head explode. And the pathetic weakness and oftentimes

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Speaker 1: open corruption of America's pastors, elders, leaders, It is a

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Speaker 1: long way to.

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Speaker 2: Gutting this country.

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Speaker 1: And I'm really really glad Megan wrote the books she

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Speaker 1: wrote joining me now reporter for The Daily Wire and

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Speaker 1: author of the book Shepherds for Sale. Megan Basham, Megan,

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Speaker 1: you wrote the book on this. This is something I

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Speaker 1: rant about so often. There is so much poison coming

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Speaker 1: from the pulpit today and it freaking steems me.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, obviously, Las it upset me as well, and

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Speaker 3: it's part of why I started researching it and investigating

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Speaker 3: what was going on. And a big part of what

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Speaker 3: I found was that, yes, some of it is organic.

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Speaker 3: You have some pastors who are simply falling prey to

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Speaker 3: fear of.

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Speaker 5: Man, as scripture calls it.

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Speaker 3: They want to align with the culture, they don't want

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Speaker 3: to be distinct. But you also have a lot of

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Speaker 3: this being orchestrated. So you have left wing foundations funded

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Speaker 3: by billionaires like George Soros deliberately setting up evangelical front

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Speaker 3: groups and making use of the evangelical leaders to create

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Speaker 3: AstroTurf campaigns to try to co opt that all important

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Speaker 3: to evangelical vote. And you know, for your voter or

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Speaker 3: for your viewers who may not be aware, they need

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Speaker 3: to know why all conservatives, all Americans, all patriots need

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Speaker 3: to care about what goes on with evangelicals because they

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Speaker 3: are thirty percent of the American electorate, and even left

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Speaker 3: wing media outlets like The Atlantic call them America's most

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Speaker 3: powerful voting block. They were the people who put Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump in office. They are the people who have been

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Speaker 3: holding back the leftist agenda on issues like anti human

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Speaker 3: climate change policies, on open borders policies when it comes

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Speaker 3: to immigration, and so it's very important what's going on

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Speaker 3: with them, and that is why so much of this

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Speaker 3: leftist effort has gone into co opting their institutions and

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Speaker 3: their churches so that that influence will trickle down.

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Speaker 1: It is interesting how often and this stuff is flat

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Speaker 1: out nefarious and not just some do good or weeni

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Speaker 1: pastor in his skiddy jeans who doesn't understand how to

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Speaker 1: protect the nation or protect his flock. But actually, I

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Speaker 1: want to talk to you about that guy for a moment.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back to this Soros thing. My pastor actually

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Speaker 1: gave us a sermon a couple of weeks ago, and

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Speaker 1: he couldn't megan, he couldn't help himself. He had to

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Speaker 1: talk about how we're called to be kind to the immigrants.

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Speaker 1: Of course, just completely freaking moths that he's a wonderful

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Speaker 1: human being, and of course we're supposed to be kind

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Speaker 1: to everyone, but doesn't realize he got co opted. The

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Speaker 1: dirty Communists co opted his faith, his belief in kindness

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Speaker 1: and love, and they co opted him. And there he

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Speaker 1: is up up with the pulpit, running his stupid mouth

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Speaker 1: about things he knows nothing about. How often does this

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Speaker 1: happen to pastors where they just kind of get used?

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Speaker 3: This happens so often, Jesse and I spend a very

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Speaker 3: long chapter detailing the very issue of immigration that you

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Speaker 3: just brought up. So what you will see these AstroTurf organizations,

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Speaker 3: these left wing funded evangelical organizations do, is they'll create

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Speaker 3: a general statement of principle, something like what your pastor

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Speaker 3: said that we all agree with. Yes, of course we

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Speaker 3: should be kind to immigrants, regardless of how they got came.

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Speaker 5: To be in our country.

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Speaker 3: Yes we should share Jesus with them, regardless of whether

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Speaker 3: or not they are legal or illegal. But what they

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Speaker 3: do is then take that general statement of principle and

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Speaker 3: they use it to approach GOP lawmakers and say, look,

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Speaker 3: your evangelical constituents, the most important constituents, the people who

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Speaker 3: put you in office, want you to back Senator James

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Speaker 3: Langfort's border bill that allows up to five thousand illegal

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Speaker 3: immigrants into the country every day.

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Speaker 1: And the important thing to know.

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Speaker 5: About that when they say things like we want to

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Speaker 5: be kind to.

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Speaker 3: The immigrant, that is absolutely true, but we also want

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Speaker 3: to be kind to the citizen. And allowing this kind

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Speaker 3: of chaos is not loving our neighbor. It's not loving

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Speaker 3: the people who live in our communities. It's actually very hateful.

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Speaker 3: It's not just a question of crime and drug and

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Speaker 3: sex trap. It's also a question of the job loss

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Speaker 3: that they're experiencing, the housing prices that the next generation

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Speaker 3: is experiencing, that's classing them out of the American dream.

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Speaker 3: So all of this is not kind, and we need

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Speaker 3: to talk about that as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's a fact.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing Christian about bringing barbarians in to rape your

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Speaker 1: women and steal your jobs.

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Speaker 2: Nothing Christian about that at all.

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Speaker 1: But well, you know, we're going to set that aside

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Speaker 1: for a moment, and I'm want to go back to

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Speaker 1: what you were talking about about Soros and these left

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Speaker 1: wing organizations who are co opting and doing horrible things

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Speaker 1: with American Christianity. Is there a not a right wings

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Speaker 1: I know you're all over this stuff and I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you are. But is there a Christian organization or Christian

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Speaker 1: organizations aware of this and pushing back against this, or

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Speaker 1: does this all fall to you and me?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest with you, Jesse. Right now,

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Speaker 3: it mostly falls to you and me. I wrote this expose.

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Speaker 3: I brought an incredible number of receipts I show hard documentary,

742
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Speaker 3: I show irs nine nineties that prove beyond a question

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Speaker 3: of a doubt that people like George Soros, like Buddhist

744
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Speaker 3: eBay founder Pierre Omiitiar, like the Clinton Foundation, like Bill Gates,

745
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Speaker 3: that they are funneling money into these evangelical and Christian organizations.

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Speaker 5: And now that I am bringing it up.

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Speaker 3: You, in fact, have so many people who have benefited

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Speaker 3: from this system that they have mobilized to try to

749
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Speaker 3: discredit the work, to try to say you shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of it's not Christian for her

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Speaker 3: to be criticizing our evangelical leaders like this.

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Speaker 5: This is divisive you should mark and avoid.

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Speaker 3: So they are doing everything they can right now to

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Speaker 3: avoid the substance of this book. And all I can

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Speaker 3: say about that is that that is why it's important

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Speaker 3: and this is not just a plug for me, but

758
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Speaker 3: it's important to buy it. Be aware of this information,

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Speaker 3: and start demanding answers from your pastors and from your

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Speaker 3: ministry leaders. Because the incentive system right now now is

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Speaker 3: all on respectably ignoring it. That is the polite thing

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Speaker 3: to do, to pretend it's not happening. So the only

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Speaker 3: way to stop that is for enough people to say,

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Speaker 3: we see what you're doing, and we're demanding answers.

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Speaker 2: Good. I'm glad they're criticizing it.

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Speaker 1: I would worry about it if they weren't criticized, and

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Speaker 1: it may I suggest everyone who goes to church maybe purchase.

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Speaker 2: A copy for your pastors.

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Speaker 1: Pastors don't make any money unless they're Joe Olstein, so

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Speaker 1: you might want to purchase a copy for them and

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Speaker 1: give it to them.

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Speaker 2: They'll actually read books you give them. I've done this.

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Speaker 1: Before, okay, Megan, before I let you go. The Olympics.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it's not something i'm currently watching because I hate

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Speaker 1: that demonic filth they pulled in the opening ceremonies. But

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Speaker 1: what strikes me is how bold they are about that stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's so bold, it's so in your face down, it's

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Speaker 1: so very obviously a spiritual war that's been declared, and

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of floorided how many people can't see it

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Speaker 1: or don't want to see it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not just that some of these pastors that I

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Speaker 3: was just talking about, you have actually seen them out

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Speaker 3: argue for Christians don't need to be upset about this

784
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Speaker 3: because the Last Supper isn't actually a representation of price.

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Speaker 3: I have seen pastors out there doing it on social media.

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Speaker 5: Jesse.

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Speaker 3: They say that we as Christians are not to be

788
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Speaker 3: about our outrage, so we therefore should show no love

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Speaker 3: for our Savior in objecting to his mockery and to

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Speaker 3: his denigration. And all I can say is that I

791
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Speaker 3: don't think those people know their Bibles.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 3: It's despicable, and I have to question how much do

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Speaker 3: you love your Lord that you in no way feel

795
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Speaker 3: that Christians should object to this and look as a Christian,

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Speaker 3: I also have to say that the fact that it

797
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Speaker 3: is Jesus that they mock and that they denigrate again

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Speaker 3: and again tells me that they understand where the real

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Speaker 3: power lies and that there's only one true faith and

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Speaker 3: it's the one they continually attack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, the good news is it's nothing. Jesus isn't used

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Speaker 1: to Megan. Her book is Shepherds for sale.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, ma'am. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Seriously, Go buy a copy for your pastor if it's

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Speaker 1: something in you.

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Speaker 2: If you read it, you like it.

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Speaker 1: Pastors don't know. I had a lunch with one of

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Speaker 1: my pastors a few months ago.

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Speaker 2: Forget what it was.

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Speaker 1: I probably told you about it on the air, and

812
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Speaker 1: wonderful guys wanted to chat and check on my family,

813
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Speaker 1: and it was wonderful.

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Speaker 2: It was good. But the topic, because of what I do,

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Speaker 2: the topic.

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Speaker 1: Of politics and the news and the world came up

817
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Speaker 1: during the course of our conversation, and he didn't know

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Speaker 1: anything nothing, just totally blissfully unaware of what's happening in

819
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Speaker 1: the world.

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Speaker 2: We can't have that.

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Speaker 1: We can't pull ourselves apart from that anyway. Something to

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Speaker 1: think about, all right, you know what else you can

823
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Speaker 1: think about?

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Speaker 2: You know, you can.

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Speaker 1: Podcast this show, right, Josh Hammer, Mike Slater Eddy one

826
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Speaker 1: of our shows. If you go to the first tv

827
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Speaker 1: dot com Slash Podcasts, you can just go get a

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Speaker 1: podcast version. Listen at listen, listen, listen.

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Speaker 2: That's your leisure.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back, all right, it is time to lighten

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Speaker 1: the mood. And you probably have heard of trolling. Never

832
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: heard of trolling. It's something that people will put something

833
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Speaker 1: up online, something that's obviously wrong or false, just to

834
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Speaker 1: get people mad and screaming and yelling about this. And

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Speaker 1: I don't have very many skills.

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Speaker 2: As you know.

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Speaker 1: I'm a great orderer of food. I make a wonderful cheeseburger,

838
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Speaker 1: I'm a wonderful napper. But beyond that, I don't have

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Speaker 1: a lot that I'm good at. But I'm very, very,

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Speaker 1: very good at trolling. And here's why. It's not just immaturity,

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Speaker 1: although there's a whole heat being helping at that. Here's

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Speaker 1: why I'm good at trolling because I understand what it

843
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Speaker 1: actually is.

844
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Speaker 2: And here's what trolling actually is.

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Speaker 1: It's taking somebody's false notions of you and enforcing them

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Speaker 1: to make them look stupid. For instance, if you're on

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Speaker 1: the left, if you're a dirty communist, maybe you're one

848
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Speaker 1: hate watching this show right now. I know you believe

849
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Speaker 1: a bunch of things about people on the right, but

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Speaker 1: one thing you definitely believe, no question about it. Do

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Speaker 1: you believe people on the right are stupid and naive

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Speaker 1: an uneducated. Of course you went to an Ivy League

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Speaker 1: school and you live in New York City, and of

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00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: course every farmer in Iowa was an idiot.

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Speaker 2: Of course that's how you're trained. That's how the American

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Speaker 2: communist thinks.

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Speaker 1: And so because that's how they think of us, I

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Speaker 1: like to use that and make them look dumb. I

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Speaker 1: put up a stupid post on Twitter a while ago

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Speaker 1: calling the Statue of Liberty basically American architecture. I said

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Speaker 1: something to the effect of, well, the Europeans would never

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Speaker 1: know that this is American architecture, and of course everyone

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Speaker 1: knows it's a gift from France. Well, this was a

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Speaker 1: joke I made. I swear it was a year ago.

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Speaker 2: And watch this.

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Speaker 7: Jesse Kelly DC tweets people love to sound sophisticated and

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Speaker 7: brag about European art and architecture. I've seen Americas and

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Speaker 7: I've seen what they've got. Theirs can't touch ours. And

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Speaker 7: then he puts up an image of the statue at Liberty,

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Speaker 7: which is French art and French architecture. You rube dumbed.

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Speaker 2: That's how you troll.

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00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: Take their false notions of you, and you use it

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Speaker 1: to make them look really really really dumb.

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Speaker 2: I'll see them all