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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do it live on a Tuesday edition

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Speaker 2: of Clive the Browns Daily. I am merely bo he

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Speaker 2: is the great z nice relaxing mourning for you. Yes, no,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe you are.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Boom, I forgot.

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Speaker 2: It's been a minute.

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Speaker 3: It's been a minute since we've been in this studio.

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Speaker 3: Oh baby, Now we're you.

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Speaker 2: Know, now, you know you're on, Mike light On, We're on.

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Speaker 2: I think Connor's got his hands full with enough stuff

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Speaker 2: going on that we won't but when we get to

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Speaker 2: the off season, the next step would be mounting it

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Speaker 2: up top up top, yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: You can and also have one for you to a

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Speaker 3: button for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you just and then you're good. That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's all you get.

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Speaker 3: Ate like a two side of them. So there's like

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Speaker 3: buttons on his side and you just go you press

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Speaker 3: I press.

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Speaker 2: Boom and like you turn that key. Both of us

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Speaker 2: at the same time time. Yeah, yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. Yeah, not a lot going on.

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard much yet about the Browns and the note.

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Speaker 2: It's been quiet. I haven't seen anything. I've got no

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Speaker 2: text from Browns fans wanting to know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: I've nothing.

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Speaker 3: It's I haven't heard anything about the Dome. I haven't

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Speaker 3: heard anything about there's.

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Speaker 2: Been nothing about receivers for other teams. There's nothing.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing that it's been a lot of. So what

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Speaker 2: the hell happened on the season finale of House of

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Speaker 2: the Dragon there, I've gotten that a little bit.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I haven't watched it, Okay, I heard

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Speaker 3: it's I heard it basically that the show should have

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Speaker 3: ended with the penultimate, which is basically people complaining thinking

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Speaker 3: that the season finale is supposed to go back and

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Speaker 3: watch a game of Throne. Seasons one, too, three, four,

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Speaker 3: or five, the penultimate episode is always the finale, and

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Speaker 3: the next episode kind of sets the table for the

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Speaker 3: next season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd get a well, we'll talk about it once

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Speaker 2: you've seen it.

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Speaker 3: But that's what I heard. That's what and I heard

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Speaker 3: people complaining about it and I'm like, but that's what

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Speaker 3: they do. Yeah, you get the think about it, Ned Stark,

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Speaker 3: was episode nine, Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, black Water, blackwater, yeah, red, Well that's there, all nines.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if our episode nine, as it were,

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Speaker 3: Well sure, sure, sure it really was. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: It was more like they're four if four was that way,

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Speaker 2: because that's when you had the But.

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Speaker 3: If it had ended with like the scene of her

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Speaker 3: with the three dragons behind her, that's a pretty good closer.

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Speaker 3: And it ties back to you know, Denarius and being

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Speaker 2: He said that this morning's as well, so she finished

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Speaker 2: the unsullied and they panned out all that. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: so it ain't that nor anyway. But irregardless, by.

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Speaker 3: The way I tell you, just crawl quick funny story

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Speaker 3: notes went h I just I just finished it. Interviewing

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Speaker 3: New Brown's receiver Jerry Judy, and he and I have

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Speaker 3: gotten along really well. I've interviewed him a few times now,

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Speaker 3: A lot of warning about that. There was a certain

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Speaker 3: someone who gulps life. Yeah, I try to have a

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Speaker 3: Three two one, and then yeah, Nathan's girl alongside Jay's

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Speaker 3: like your voice changed. I'm like, yeah, baby, that's the

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Speaker 3: So he got a big kick out of that, which

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Speaker 3: I thought I thought was funny, and I know I'm

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Speaker 3: sure that's probably happened to you at some point as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, okay, all right, because we have

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Speaker 2: to let me set the table because there are probably

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Speaker 2: people who are coming out here too.

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Speaker 3: They got boards, you've got boards, there's copious notes.

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Speaker 2: Practice is slated, Yes, at four fifteen today, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Those gates open at three point fifteen today, unless you've

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Speaker 2: been under a cave. Yeah, you are aware that we

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Speaker 2: have had a lot of weather already this morning. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's rains sound I thought you were going there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've had a lot, so pay attention to that.

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Speaker 2: Going forward. We will update you on any changes that

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Speaker 3: Mis Kate is supposed to see Hosier tonight at as

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Speaker 3: singer take me to church? Remember that? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: yeah Hosier. I probably said Hosier hose Hosier.

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Speaker 2: Rough shake and he knows he's yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: But it's outdoors.

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Speaker 2: I mean it feels like, well, I'm sure with all your.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going This wasn't me, this was she did

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Speaker 2: Well we know what happened with miss k Book's plane tickets.

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Speaker 2: You're in thirty six E. We love her, we love her,

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Speaker 2: but like I'm fine with that bid. No you're not

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Speaker 2: well hustling back there.

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Speaker 3: I don't whatever. Just get get my plane to take off.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 2: If my plane on thirty six on a connector, if

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Speaker 3: Time and lands on time, I don't care where I

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Speaker 3: say put me in Thouys. I had one of my

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Speaker 3: great friends, Dizzio, was supposed to go to Ireland for

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Speaker 3: like a ten day family reunion. Yep, and he is

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Speaker 3: a family of five. He's they got grown kids that

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Speaker 3: And the one that was in Chicago made it. The

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Speaker 3: going to fly together. Canceled for like three days in

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Speaker 2: This is where we're at.

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Speaker 3: This is where we're at. No accountability, no, no nothing,

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Speaker 2: This is where we're I don't think I told you

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Speaker 2: this on our flight to Boston two weeks ago. I

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Speaker 2: guess almost two weeks ago. Tomorrow yep, six o five departure.

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Speaker 2: We're loaded by ten to six yep. Right, everybody's in.

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Speaker 2: That's early. Yeah, kids, everybody's in. We're ready to go,

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Speaker 2: and we set fifteen minutes, goes by, twenty minutes, goes by.

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Speaker 3: On the plane.

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Speaker 2: On the plane, pilot gets on and goes, we've got

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Speaker 2: a little bit of delay here. We anticipate this being fine.

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Speaker 2: There are no tight connections. Looks like everybody. Boston's a

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Speaker 2: final destination. We're going to get there. It's not a problem,

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Speaker 2: but we're going to be a little bit delayed here,

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Speaker 2: probably another ten fifteen minutes. Comes back on in ten

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Speaker 2: here's what's happened. My co pilot left his identification in

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Speaker 2: the identification like his ID card, to which I am blown.

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Speaker 2: My mind is blown that this is what's holding this up.

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Speaker 2: That there's not a retina scanner that this guy can.

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Speaker 3: Do a scan to go through clear right, No, it's

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Speaker 3: me exactly, just rent the skin him.

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Speaker 2: Let's go pop him in. So he comes on and says,

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Speaker 2: left his thing. It's taking longer. We thought we'd be

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Speaker 2: can't find it at the hotel. The hotel can't find it.

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Speaker 2: Now the pilot is going to have to leave Opkins

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Speaker 2: So a six O five departure ended up being seven

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Speaker 2: we did get there, you know. Way, Yeah, it was fine,

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Speaker 2: it was fine, I have a connection. It was fine.

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Speaker 2: But the guy the copilot didn't even show his face,

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Speaker 2: so he slunk on and then he slunk off yep,

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Speaker 2: So like as soon as the door opened, he was gone.

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Speaker 2: So the pilot had to sit there and suffer the

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Speaker 2: slings and arrows. It's this guy got to bounce because

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Speaker 2: he forgot his ID, and I thought we brought down

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Speaker 2: air travel because we don't have we don't have the

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Speaker 2: we don't have a physical identification nuts.

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Speaker 3: By the way, in the state of Ohio, now you

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Speaker 3: can add your driver's license to your Apple wallet and

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Speaker 3: use it. So he could have done that.

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Speaker 5: He could.

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Speaker 2: That would have been helpful. Yeah, that would have been

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Speaker 2: very helpful. There's a great many ways to identify one

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Speaker 2: it's oneself at this point. So that's where you're standing that.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do uh chronologically and we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: why tell around with this momentarily I believe I think

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Speaker 2: that is that happening soon or do we know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll I'm in contact with Gibbs.

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Speaker 4: Me too.

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Speaker 2: The great jow Hayden's back there.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Gibbe having a Gibbet having a rough day.

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Speaker 3: He failed to uh let Mo Pedman know that availability

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Speaker 3: was actually one and not at eleven fifteen. So Mo

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Speaker 3: Pedman showed up at eleven fifteen and then is busy

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Speaker 3: a kerfuffle. And I haven't seen apologetic Gibbe, Like, have

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Speaker 3: you guys ever seen him that apologetic? That beaten down? No, no,

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Speaker 3: it was he took it. It was he was.

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Speaker 2: He felt like he was entirely in the wrong.

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Speaker 3: He knew he was entirely.

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Speaker 2: He blew it.

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Speaker 3: He blew Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Is it his responsibilit to put that information out or

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Speaker 2: is that the responsibility of the person doing the interview

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Speaker 2: to pay attention to Brown's communication?

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Speaker 3: Lobably. I believe he told him oh to be here

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Speaker 3: at that time, ouchy, which she had told me this

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Speaker 3: morning too when I texted him, He's like, make sure

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Speaker 3: hear this is this plan. And I was going to

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Speaker 3: be here anyway. But it was fine.

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Speaker 2: It was different, all right. Zadarius first, Zadarius scary but

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Speaker 2: in the moment, but fine, okay, I'm told good. Good,

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Speaker 2: So that's very very good. Yep, we have Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even see it happened yesterday, So I got

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I got a text I said,

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Speaker 3: for the whole practice, But I don't know when it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it happened from the time that you know, I

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Speaker 8: But but yeah, no, you get a lot of reps

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it all certainly is talking to three time Pro

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Speaker 5: We'll get it.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get it's better, but we got to get

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Speaker 5: Quiet.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious you guys spend all that time down at

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Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I mean, I love, I love heading down

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Speaker 8: here the past couple of years, there's you know, Browns

436
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Speaker 8: fans in West Virginia. You know, I know that you know,

437
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,400
Speaker 8: it's not that crazy because there's no team in West Virginia.

438
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,520
Speaker 8: But you know, being a you know, I guess people

439
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,160
Speaker 8: in West Virginia they can kind of pick what team

440
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,520
Speaker 8: they want to be a part of. But you know,

441
00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,919
Speaker 8: we do have fans in West Virginia, so it's awesome.

442
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 8: But you know, most of the practices, you know, they're

443
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 8: nitty gritty, you know, or practice them once a day.

444
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 8: But still, you know, you know, walkthroughs and everything like that.

445
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,159
Speaker 8: You know, you're tired, you're you know, sometimes you got

446
00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,919
Speaker 8: to forget, you know, or you do forget to, you know,

447
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,560
Speaker 8: look up. I always say that when I when I'm

448
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,200
Speaker 8: golfing and I just hit a bad shot or something

449
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 8: like that, I'm like, don't forget to look up. You know,

450
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 8: it's beautiful. You get to see the mountains, you get

451
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 8: see everything. But but yeah, no, it's it's definitely a

452
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,560
Speaker 8: special place. And you know, it was it was great,

453
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 8: you know, being out with the team, you know, not

454
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Speaker 8: half in.

455
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Speaker 5: You know.

456
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Speaker 8: Luckily my wife came down and I got to see

457
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 8: her almost every day and got to put Brooks to sleep,

458
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,439
Speaker 8: but my son Brooks. But you know, still it was

459
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 8: you know, even after that, I would only get to

460
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,639
Speaker 8: spend like twenty minutes you know, give him hugs and

461
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 8: kisses and then send him to bed and give him

462
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,159
Speaker 8: his bottle and go hang out with the team and

463
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Speaker 8: get some snack or everything at that and you know,

464
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 8: because we don't have anywhere to go or anything to do,

465
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 8: which is what I you know, I don't really do

466
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 8: anything anyway, but it gets people together and it gets

467
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 8: people to talk and everything.

468
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Speaker 5: So it is special.

469
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Speaker 3: It is special, and I think for you obviously a

470
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Speaker 3: special time a year. You mentioned that your wife, Carly

471
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Speaker 3: and Brooks were there, but also another bundle of joy

472
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 3: on the way. How excited are you for that? Growing

473
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 3: your family and you know, getting to celebrate that, and

474
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 3: they've been so it's been so Brown centric. I'm pretty

475
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 3: sure if I have it right, you proposed in the stadium.

476
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 3: You then announced that Brooks was coming in the stadium.

477
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 3: I remember seeing that a couple of years ago, and

478
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Speaker 3: so it's a special thing for you. So very happy

479
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Speaker 3: for you.

480
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, thank you, thank you. But you know,

481
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 5: it is kind of funny.

482
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Speaker 8: As soon as Brooks started getting easy to uh, no,

483
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 8: of course easy, but you know it's of course, you know,

484
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 8: as soon as you're like, oh, you know, hey, Brooks

485
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 8: can start walking, you can start, you know, communicating a

486
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 8: little bit, and all of a sudden you like, oh,

487
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Speaker 8: let's we're having another one.

488
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Speaker 5: But no, I'm so excited.

489
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Speaker 8: You know, every tough guy I've ever met who has

490
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Speaker 8: a you know, has a little girl, they're just absolutely

491
00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 8: wrapped around her finger. And I know I'm not gonna

492
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Speaker 8: be any different, but you know, I'm so blessed, and

493
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 8: you know, we're excited to bring her into the world.

494
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Speaker 3: Daddy's a little girl. I will tell you this though,

495
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 3: I'll just I'm gonna shoot you straight. I don't know

496
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 3: if people will shoot you straight. Two is way more

497
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 3: than double one, even though it just seems like it

498
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 3: should just be. It is way more than double one.

499
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 3: But you guys certainly will be ready for that. Why

500
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 3: talking about you know, iron sharpening iron, that's a theme.

501
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 3: We get the Browns defensive lines as good as it

502
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 3: gets in the National Football League. Some new faces on

503
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 3: the interior that you've had to tangle with, a veteran

504
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 3: Quinton Jefferson who knows how to get to the quarterback,

505
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 3: and then my call, who you know. Zadarius Smith certainly

506
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 3: had high praise for his athleticism and physicality. What have

507
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 3: you kind of seen from some of those new faces

508
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 3: along the Browns defensive line on the interior?

509
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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I mean really good. Of course, I always

510
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 8: got my work cut out for me. As soon as

511
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 8: I'm like, oh, you know, you know, I hopefully this practice,

512
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 8: you know, I can just get my hands right and

513
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 8: get my feet right. And then you're going against someone

514
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 8: who's you know, damn good and trying to get to

515
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 8: the trying to get to the quarterback every play. So

516
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 8: you know, it's it's always work. It's always you know,

517
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,400
Speaker 8: getting a fit and everything like that. You know, they're

518
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 8: giving us fits, is what I mean. But you know

519
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 8: it's Ah, they're a special team. I mean they're they're

520
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 8: led great, they have a great coach there. I mean,

521
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 8: you know I always say that, you know, you know cliche.

522
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 8: Some of the best people you go against in the

523
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 8: season are the guys you go against every single day

524
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 8: in practice because they know the snap count, they.

525
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 5: Know your plays, they know our calls.

526
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 8: We say we're going this way, oh oh oh, and

527
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 8: they start widening out.

528
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 5: You're like, come on, what are you doing? How do

529
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 5: you know what's going on?

530
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Speaker 8: But uh, you know, going against the defenses is never

531
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 8: i'd say fun, but you know, going against any defense

532
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 8: and a lot of fun.

533
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 5: But yeah, I know, Mike.

534
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 8: Hall's, ah, he's a dog, he's a great player, you know, uh,

535
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 8: you know Moe's Mo's, Mo's you know, a great player.

536
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 8: We were going against a lot of guys who you know,

537
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 8: are just are talented and everything like that and are

538
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 8: working hard and you know, but yeah, iron sharpens iron,

539
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 8: you know. So they are they're they're really good and

540
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 8: they're making us better.

541
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Speaker 2: Why and obviously a lot of knicks, a lot of

542
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 2: guys banged up both sides of the ball. How do

543
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 2: you guys balance as a guy who's been through this

544
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 2: a lot, who's a pro, how do you balance getting

545
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 2: ready for September and and all that goes into that,

546
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: but also making sure you're healthy in September most especially

547
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 2: healthy in November and so forth. Is that in the

548
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: back of your head at all? How do you balance

549
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: all of it?

550
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm a firm believer. You know.

551
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 8: Whenever you start going half speed, that's when the injuries happen.

552
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 8: That's when people get tangled up and bad things happen.

553
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 5: So you got to go full speed.

554
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 8: You gotta you gotta practice hard, you gotta be running,

555
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 8: you gotta be doing the right stuff, because if you don't,

556
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 8: you stand no chance, you know. So it's it's it's

557
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,719
Speaker 8: it's work, but you know it also, I mean, we

558
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 8: play we played it. We have an unbelievable job. So

559
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 8: you know, oh, no I get to go outside and

560
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 8: play football. You know, Oh it sucks. You know, it's hot,

561
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 8: you know whatever, and we're so blessed and sometimes like

562
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 8: the same thing, you got to look up and just

563
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 8: realize how how blessed you are and that we're playing

564
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 8: a sport for a living, and you know, paid handsomely

565
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 8: for it, so it's it's amazing.

566
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 5: But yeah, I know, we uh we you know this

567
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 5: is is hard. Campus training, training camp is hard.

568
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 8: You know, it gets chippy and everything at that, but

569
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 8: you got to remind yourself that, you know, we're so

570
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 8: blessed to be here and be blessed to be playing football,

571
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 8: especially you know, I always make this joke to all

572
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 8: my friends. I'm like, I'm twenty nine years old, about

573
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 8: to turn thirty and I'm still playing football, and all

574
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 8: my friends are like, yeah, it's crazy. I'n't been playing

575
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 8: for seven years Wyatt, and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah,

576
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 8: I forget. But you know, I've been extremely blessed and

577
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 8: you know, it's a it's a lot of work, but

578
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 8: you know, taking care of your body as you get

579
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 8: older and everything at that, you know, or someone told me,

580
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 8: you're not getting older, you're getting more experienced.

581
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 5: Thanks. I appreciate that's right.

582
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: Season.

583
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 8: Maybe I'm feeling every hit that I ever threw out

584
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 8: my body for, but uh but no, I'm I'm I'm

585
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 8: so lucky. And you know, but yeah, like I said,

586
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 8: you just got to go full speed. You gotta you know,

587
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 8: get ready to go and get you get your body right.

588
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 8: And that's why I think these preseason games and uh,

589
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 8: you know, camp is so important.

590
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: Talking with Browns three time Pro Bowl guard why ittt Teller?

591
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: Whyatt the new workout facility than the weight room? Basically, Oh,

592
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 3: we liked what we saw at UCLA. We're gonna just

593
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 3: bring it right here Eveland. And you know some of

594
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 3: those new rooms that they've shown us with you know,

595
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: the twenty five yard wide screens and all of that.

596
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: What do you kind of make of some of the

597
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: new facilities to help you? As you talked about with

598
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: that recovery, with getting your body right, with getting your

599
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 3: mind right, and and all the things that it takes

600
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Speaker 3: to go through the riggers of a seventeen game NFL season.

601
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you know, I always make this joke,

602
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 8: is you know, you give me, give me a squad

603
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 8: rack and some weights. I don't care if the floors,

604
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 8: you know, even whatever, as long as you're your squatting

605
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 8: heavy and lifting lifting heavy weights. I think that it's

606
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 8: gonna better us. But no, it is beautiful. You know,

607
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 8: the upstairs is crazy. I think there's a golf simulator

608
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 8: that absolutely no one's been able to use because of

609
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 8: course it was done right before season. You used that

610
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 8: in April when my swing was horrible. But uh but whatever,

611
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 8: here we are. But maybe I'll get to use it

612
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 8: next year. But uh no, it's been. It's amazing. I

613
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 8: mean it's so beautiful. Yeah, like you said, I know

614
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 8: that there was a lot of stuff that came from

615
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 8: UCLA because I mean they had an unbelievable you know,

616
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 8: workout performance area, you know, our region reginative area and

617
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 8: everything like that is I mean, hop notch. We have

618
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 8: all the stuff we could we could need. The Haslum's coach.

619
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 8: They've just taken.

620
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Speaker 5: Care of us.

621
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Speaker 8: You know, sometimes you forget how how pampered you are

622
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 8: when when you're playing football. But we're we're so lucky

623
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 8: to have everything around for us, you know, the gym,

624
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 8: I mean, we have a little turf area where we

625
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 8: get to uh, you know, stretch and everything at that,

626
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 8: do hurdles and stuff, and we don't have to go

627
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 8: outside for that anymore.

628
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Speaker 2: It's it's nice, it certainly is. And it's nice having

629
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Speaker 2: you a part of the part of the operation, buddy,

630
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 2: as it has been for all these years. And we

631
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for the time today and and

632
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Speaker 2: have a great practice out there this afternoon.

633
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, thank you, good talking with you.

634
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's three time pro bowler, Wyatt Teller.

635
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: It's joining us two time.

636
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: All God, why don't you just tell we could have

637
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: made it all one. We should have just said that

638
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: all should have been three time pro bowler, two time

639
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: All Pro, and that could have went into it.

640
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Speaker 4: All right.

641
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Speaker 2: We've got another pro bowler to my right. Joe Hayden's

642
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: gonna continue. We still have not discussed a potential trade

643
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,639
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Speaker 2: A chance to have your pup compete in the annual

651
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Speaker 2: halftime dog races. Was it Cleveland Browns dot com slash

652
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653
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: your local grocer pet supplies store as well. Somehow, we've

654
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: had a lot going on. We had Joe in here orly,

655
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: which is great to have the great three time pro

656
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: bowler Joe Aayden in here with us. And then we

657
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 2: had Wyat live and so there's there's a lot going on.

658
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: We have yet to discuss what has been the overwhelming

659
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: story the National Football League of the last twenty four hours,

660
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 2: and that is the potential trade of Brandon Ayuk and

661
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: that the Cleveland Browns are reportedly among two teams in

662
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: the mix for Brandon Ayuk. This report came out last

663
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: night from NBC Bay Area. I'm sure Pedro was boots

664
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: on the.

665
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: Ground over it. He's been all over it, all over.

666
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: There was also talk that Pittsburgh and the Commanders were

667
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: in on this, and then they are now apparently reportedly

668
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: out of the bidding. Schefter has some reporting on this

669
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: as well. Let's just talk big pickures.

670
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: I don't know how much the Patriots are are still

671
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: necessarily in the picture, folks.

672
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: It's there's time, you know.

673
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 3: Here's what I would say. Okay, doctor ze, you have

674
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: the floor, all right? So just just who is Brandon

675
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: Ayuk ayuk six foot two hundred pounds, first round pick

676
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: of the Niners in the twenty twenty NFL Draft out

677
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: of Arizona State. He is twenty six years old, so

678
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: he is younger coming off of his fourth season last year,

679
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: was second team All Pro. Career high thirteen hundred and

680
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: forty two yards, seven touchdowns, average seventeen point nine yards catch.

681
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: He averaged twelve point eight yards at target, which I've

682
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: done this for a very long time, and this was

683
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: one of the stats I used to use back in

684
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: fantasy football days. So we're going back to the mid

685
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: two thousands. I have I could probably count on one

686
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: hand the number of times a guy who had over

687
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 3: one hundred targets in a season, averaged over twelve yards

688
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: at target for a season like Tyreek does that. Yeah,

689
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: that is a that is a rare bird. That means

690
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: so when you say yards, that means they average gaining

691
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: twelve point eight yards every time they threw a pass

692
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: to Brandon Nayuk period. Yeah, that is outrageous. Caught seventy

693
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: one percent of his targets and obviously had a monster season.

694
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: He was Pro Football Focus as number two graded wide

695
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: receiver in the league last year, behind only Tyreek Hill.

696
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: He's a star and wants to be paid as a star.

697
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: And right now that with the Niners, they are Trent

698
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 3: Williams is holding out. They had to pay Bosa, they

699
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: have to pay Christian McCaffer i, have paid Deebo. They

700
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: have too many stars. They're going to have to pay Party.

701
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: They are in a tough situation there and so they

702
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: have not yet been able to work anything out with him.

703
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: What I know about this organization, what I know about

704
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: Andrew Berry and Kevin Sefanski and Paldi Pedessa and the HASMS,

705
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: is that any opportunity that presents itself to improve the roster,

706
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: they are certainly going to look at and they have

707
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 3: been very smart with how they space salary cap things out.

708
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 3: We talked about the restructure of Amari Cooper. One of

709
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: the things Andrew Berry said when we talked to him

710
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: at the Greenbrier was that freed up I think roughly

711
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: around fourteen million in cap space this year, likely that

712
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: would be rolled over. But if an opportunity again presented

713
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: itself that they wanted to jump on, they could. So

714
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: I think it makes tons of sense that this team

715
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: would be looking at that. I think that they love

716
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: Amari Cooper. I think there are ways in which, if

717
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: this were ultimately to happen, that you could have Ayukamari Cooper,

718
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: and Jerry Judy. That is all feasible. So what will happen?

719
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I think that a lot of

720
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: this depends on, you know, the player. I think a

721
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: lot of it has to do with Obviously, money's gonna

722
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: be a big part of it, if the Niners and

723
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: and the Browns can make an agreement. I think that

724
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 3: there's reports out there that you know, it's already been predetermined,

725
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: and I don't know that that's true that there they've

726
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 3: already agreed on terms. I don't believe that to be true.

727
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: You know, Ayuk just kind of background for him. Born

728
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: in Reno, Nevada, played at Arizona State, played for the Niners.

729
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: So he has not been He has not been in

730
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: the Midwest, which really should be called the mid East

731
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: because it is nowhere near the West coast, nowhere near Nevada.

732
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: So there are I think a lot of factors in there.

733
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: I think that what you have here in in an

734
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: ownership group and in a general manager in front office

735
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: and is a desire to continue to get better. And

736
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: I think that people who are looking at this and

737
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: when they heard the rumors there, any thought was, you know,

738
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: why would you do that? It's just about this year.

739
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: You can't look future. First of all, gems have to

740
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: look at everything. But I think there is an outcome

741
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: in here that satisfies, oh my god, we become like

742
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: a fantasy team for this year and also sets you

743
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: up for the future where you would have a situation

744
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: we have a UK and Jerry Judy under contract in

745
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: their mid twenties for the next three years at least.

746
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: Right it's two parallel lines, correct, You're doing on one,

747
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: you're looking at this year. Yeah, what can we do

748
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: for this year to make sure we're a Super Bowl

749
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: contender this year. It's a stated goal. That's that's the

750
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: whole operation, right. But at the same time, on a

751
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: similar parallel line, we want to make sure that we're

752
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: never in jail. I mean, look at the organization you

753
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: played for after playing for US in Pittsburgh. Always in

754
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: the mix, always always able to be malleable, always able

755
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: to be nimble if something presents itself. That's what this

756
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: operation has been. It is pretty stupefying to wrap your

757
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: head around. If somehow this is able to be pulled

758
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: off and you're able to keep Amari and Ayuk and

759
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: Chief and Judy and Judy and.

760
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: Tillman, it's a lot going on. Somebody would have to

761
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: know that way.

762
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, I mean, Joe, that's.

763
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's all star. That's an all star roster.

764
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's your name.

765
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 6: He's like very very Pro Bowl caliber players at four

766
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 6: of the receiver.

767
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: All right, let me ask you this because and I

768
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: think this is true today by the way, no trade happening. Yeah,

769
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: and this is based getting into advanced stats. But Amari

770
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: is one of the best players in the league against

771
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: man coverage. Judy is one of the best players in

772
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: league against the man coverage terms of creating separations, so's Elijah

773
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: lies is like top six. So we have like three

774
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: of the top six in the league against a man coverage.

775
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: That makes it difficult for a defensive coordinator to say

776
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: we're gonna play man right and then all of a

777
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: sudden for an offense if we know that there isn't

778
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: a ton of man out there, it's a there are

779
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: zone beaters. Every zone has a beater, so it's a

780
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: you can almost you're in a position where you can

781
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: almost dictate what cognito coverages defenses have to play. And look,

782
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: the fact of the matter is if this, if this

783
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns football team can throw the balls at successfully

784
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: against too high, there will be no answer for what

785
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: we are as an offense because we'll beat you and man.

786
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: And if we can throw at you against you in

787
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 3: too high, we're gonna be able to run it against

788
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: you in too high because there's gonna be six man boxes,

789
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: which Nick Chubb has never seen in his career. So

790
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: I kind of in some ways think we're there, But

791
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 3: then you if all of a sudden it's you, Judy Cooper.

792
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 6: Chief I'd say this, the Burn's been doing one thing,

793
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 6: and that's just bringing in talent and evaluating talent and

794
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 6: trying to just, no matter what, making this team better

795
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 6: at every opportunity that they can. So just the people,

796
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 6: just the roster when you look at it, roster for roster,

797
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 6: for everybody, they're ballers on the team. Just being able

798
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 6: to walk into a stadium going against anybody, knowing like

799
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 6: it's not a talent thing. We should be able to

800
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 6: beat you. All we have to do is execute. And

801
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 6: now you can run. The defense has always been special,

802
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 6: and now this having a legitimate running game.

803
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 7: And then you bring.

804
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 6: These these wide receiver options that we never we had

805
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 6: Josh Gordon that was the best receiver I've seen when

806
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 6: I was out here. But now you have three dudes

807
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 6: that are legitimate I could be ones on the team.

808
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 7: So how you can't guard that?

809
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: There's a for the Browns fans out there driving around

810
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you were text this a billion times.

811
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: I was text a billion, you probably a billion and

812
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: a half. You know, in terms of what are you hearing? Yeah,

813
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: this is what I This is kind of my standard

814
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: answer to it. I don't know if this can happen.

815
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: You don't know if it's gonna happen. No, they don't

816
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: know if it's gonna happen. Brandon, you might be the

817
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 2: only one who knows if it can happen. Who knows?

818
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 2: And his representatives they might It might be that simple

819
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: where it's they'm trying to sort through this.

820
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: But this is what you should be rest assured of.

821
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: Your ownership and front office relentlessly tries to improve the

822
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns.

823
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a full stop.

824
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: Yes they will. No stone will be unturned. Does this

825
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 2: make us better now? Yeah? Does it make us better

826
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: three years from now? Yes, anything that starts with does

827
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: this make us better? They will investigate.

828
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: I'll look into it.

829
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: They will never say, oh I don't know the price, Senator,

830
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: that I don't know about That is always never to

831
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: be always they're always open to a conversation. They're always

832
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: snooping around, They're always looking looking for deals. Look what

833
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: they did we're talking about, Coop. It's robbery. What we got, Coops.

834
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 2: The cowboys were in a pickle.

835
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 4: Well we can get you out.

836
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: Of a I like pickles.

837
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: We love pickles.

838
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: Give me a couple of pickles. We can We'll take

839
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: a couple of pickles. Who gets hurt? Nice crackle to it.

840
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: Who gets hurt? So that's that's the thing, whether this

841
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: happens or not. And we don't know what this machinations

842
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: could be or what it could look like or who's

843
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: going there. Obviously have to give up something to get

844
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: somebody of that caliber. You don't have to pay him.

845
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: It's funny people, how many people you get this?

846
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: Or like, well, can we afford him? It's not your money.

847
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't worry about it. Yes, yes, you can afford

848
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: act afford it.

849
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: The ownership here like and and Paul deep Us of

850
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: those guys Coop, those guys like they're dialed.

851
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 3: They're locked in, Dude. They have this ali They map

852
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: out season three five years and they're constantly planning. And

853
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: there's always the ability to restratructure. And when you do that,

854
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: and you have an ownership that's willing to pay the

855
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 3: cash that it costs to restructure, you can do these

856
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 3: things and you have an advantage over the salary cap.

857
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: The Browns have been toortned to the top of the

858
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: league in cash spending, but have been able to push

859
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 3: salary cap implications down the line. Because you have an ownership,

860
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: they'll do that. Amari Cooper was acquired in a trade

861
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty that sent a twenty twenty two to

862
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: fifth rounder to the Dallas Cowboys and swapped twenty twenty

863
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: two sixth round picks full stop Amari Cooper. Jerry Judy

864
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: was just acquired in a trade from the Denver Broncos,

865
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: where the Brown sent a twenty twenty four to fifth

866
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: round pick and a twenty twenty four to sixth round

867
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: pick for Jerry Judy. Robbery, robbery, I'm both. I got

868
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: talked to Jerry Day. We saw him out here. You

869
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 3: saw him on Monday. Yes, on that option route takes

870
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: a slant, gone down the sideline gone, may have been

871
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: a push off. Maybe not. No officials out here at

872
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: the time. Only a dB would say an offense. I

873
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: would be like, yeah, no, but yeah, he looks fantastic.

874
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: This would not be that. I would imagine the compensation

875
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: would be more significant than we're talking fives and sixes. Yeah,

876
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: but it certainly is something that's very feasible. Then if

877
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: you're thinking about it from the Niner standpoint, right, if

878
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: he if you cannot get a deal with him, and

879
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: he walks. The very best you can do is get

880
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: a pick after pick ninety seven would be the best

881
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: you get is in terms of a compensatory pick. Yeah,

882
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: that's the best that it could be. So anything above

883
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: that is obviously better than it would be had he

884
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: just left. So there is room in there. Somebody asked

885
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 3: me to you think they give him, but one firm

886
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: there's no There is no world that exists in which

887
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: Andrew Barry would give up a first round pick to

888
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 3: trade away and then pay a guy immediately. First round picks.

889
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: We've talked about it. They are going to be for

890
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: the next however many years. Wide receivers, cornerbacks, pass rushers,

891
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: whether it's interior or exterior, and maybe a pass catching

892
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: tight end, so you can put we'll call him pass rushers.

893
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 2: Pass catchins, pass catching weapons.

894
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: Corners, left tackle or right tackle, and quarterbacks, and hopefully

895
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: we don't need a quarterback for a very long time.

896
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: But those are the positions that when you draft them

897
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: in the first round, you're getting a supreme talent, and

898
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 3: it's immediately getting you a salary cap savings relative to

899
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: their talent at the position that they play exactly. That's why.

900
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: And I'll say it again, and we joke about the

901
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: Falcons all the time, but when the Falcons sake be

902
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 3: Jeon Robinson eighth overall, even if he is great, you're

903
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: already paying him like a top five running back. So

904
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: even if he is a top five running back, he's

905
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: already being paid like that. You get you don't have

906
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: a single year of a salary benefit with Jon Robinson. Now,

907
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 3: then when you draft a backup quarterback who's twenty six

908
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 3: at eight overall, when you just pay Kirk Cousins one

909
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: hundred million guaranteed, that also doesn't give you much of

910
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: a benefit at the beginning of his career.

911
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: But that's neither here nor there. So that's where you stand.

912
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 2: That's where it stands with ayok.

913
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: Right now, Look, they will do everything they can to

914
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: improve their team. Now, what I would say to you

915
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 3: is there aren't going to be left tackles that would

916
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: do that for your team available, just not going to

917
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: happen unless you get a contractual, crazy situ suation. But

918
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any way the Niners are letting

919
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 3: Trent Williams go. No, They're not going to be pass

920
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 3: rushers at this point of the season where that is possible.

921
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: So really the only kind of dynamic position there are

922
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: gonna be corners, and Wed's giving away their corners right

923
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: now for nothing. It wide receiver where you have an

924
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: issue coming up. And now, if you're the Browns, you

925
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: can go and ake or you can say we're good

926
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: if it doesn't work out, We're good where we're at.

927
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 3: We're in a great position, and we are in a

928
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: position where next year we will have the money to

929
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: go after an ayuke a T Higgins if we want

930
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 3: to bring in a receiver of that caliber. So for

931
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: the brown great and a first round pick to draft

932
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 3: a restriver at a salary cap benefit there. So, yes,

933
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 3: there you have an operation here. And I said this,

934
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, did you watch any I'm do you

935
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: watch the off season hard knocks with the Giants?

936
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 7: No?

937
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: No, it's very interesting.

938
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 7: It is, okay, just.

939
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: A window into how certain for an offices go about

940
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: their business. And it's it's not how we do.

941
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: It's like a warm blanket forbid. It really is, because

942
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: you're like, we at least have a significant competitive advantage

943
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: over one team. And it's probably more clear that it's

944
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: a lot more than one team, you know what I mean,

945
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 3: we operate our business. Uh, And so that's where you're at.

946
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: That's where things stand right now. I think it's probably

947
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 3: very fluid. I wouldn't say that anything is imminent and

948
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: with it, yes, no, not, maybe, whatever, and we'll just

949
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: kind of see how it plays out. My guess is,

950
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: if you were going to do something like this, you

951
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 3: want it done as soon as possible because you need

952
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: him to come in and get into your system. He's

953
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 3: going to be and you know what it's like to

954
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: go against the Kyle system, but he's going to be

955
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 3: in a shant in a hand system. That's what he's

956
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 3: been in the last few years. The difference in that

957
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 3: system and our system now is significant, not because we

958
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: don't still have some of those keepers and all of that,

959
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: but Joe would remember from his time here is Kyle Shanahan.

960
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: Systems are orchestrated down to the toe, like the route

961
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 3: has to This is what the route is. This is

962
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: where you need to be on this angle with this

963
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: foot at this exact moment, because everything is one hundred

964
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: percent predicated on the choreography of what he is doing.

965
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 3: Whereas this offense. Now there are option routes all over

966
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: the place, and so it's gonna be about number one,

967
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 3: how that freedom would affect the guy like Brandon Ayu

968
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: can somebody's probably not as used to. And then two,

969
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 3: the key to those is seeing through the same eyes

970
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 3: for the quarterback and the receiver, so that when defenses

971
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: go certain ways, your bull saying ah, that changes it

972
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: to this at the same time, and that all st

973
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 3: happened under two seconds. So you need those reps together

974
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 3: because it is different as a corner when you were

975
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: going against a system where you knew the receivers didn't

976
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 3: have that the flexibility versus one where you knew they

977
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 3: were running option routes which are going to be dictated

978
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: based on your leverage and everything. How what's tougher to

979
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: defend or what's maybe what what's more common.

980
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 6: Even tougher is the freestyle because most coaches they want

981
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 6: things ruar in a certain way. When you give the

982
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 6: receivers that freedom, you know sometimes they might not be

983
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 6: on the spot.

984
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 7: The quarterback could be looking at the need to be

985
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 7: somewhere exactly.

986
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 6: I like when we get to I like them when

987
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 6: I play the on time where you have to be

988
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 6: on that spot because the film study that I study,

989
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 6: their routes are kind of the same. There's going to

990
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 6: be three steps. On that third step, they're running the slant.

991
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 6: So it's enough, no real questions. So you see them

992
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 6: their line, you know, one yard outside of the numbers.

993
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 6: They're one yard outside of the numbers. Every time you

994
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 6: can just keep running place to see the alignement is

995
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 6: going to be exactly where it has to be. There's

996
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 6: no like I'm gonna laying out a little bit more

997
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 6: because he'll know that I'm normally doing that.

998
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: So how crazy good is Kylevich given that all of

999
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 3: that is true that dudes are still completely wide open

1000
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: all the time.

1001
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 6: Because he has it like if you're in the right position,

1002
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 6: someone else isn't, do you know what I'm saying. So

1003
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 6: I mean they they, like you said, with timing, with

1004
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 6: foot placement, where everybody being in going through the same

1005
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 6: things at the same time. That's the only way it works.

1006
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 6: So I think for him, his offense is amazing, but

1007
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 6: you have to be on it. You have to know

1008
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 6: exactly where to be on exact same page.

1009
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Mari talks about the time with his you

1010
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: know let's say he was going to go against you

1011
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: and you guys had battles. I remember, I think for sure.

1012
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: Was his first game of his career was at Cleveland

1013
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: Brown Stadium.

1014
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 7: Is that one in Oakland?

1015
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1016
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 7: Oh my goodness. He yes, I will never forget that game.

1017
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 7: He got the best to be that game and you've

1018
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 7: come back. But oh yeah.

1019
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: He would watch and he told me this, if he's

1020
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 3: playing with Plain Johden, he would watch every route that

1021
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 3: he's ever ran against you, over and over leading up

1022
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 3: so that he could say, all right, well I ran

1023
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: this route this way that time, and it works. So

1024
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: you he knows that you're watching tape too, so you're

1025
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: gonna be looking for that. So he's gonna give you

1026
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: something different so that he's still gonna get where he

1027
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: wants to go, but it's gonna look totally different to you.

1028
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: And that's the kind of detail. But he said, in

1029
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: all systems, you couldn't do that, he said, especially here,

1030
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: Kevin's given him the flexibility to do that. And then

1031
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 3: now in this offense especially he has He's like, I'll

1032
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: get where you need me to be when you need

1033
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: me to be there, but just let me get there

1034
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 3: how I'm gonna get there.

1035
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, before we let you go your early impressions here.

1036
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: We get another public practice today at four fifth the

1037
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: little left or four o'clock. What are you looking to

1038
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: see this week leading into the first preseason game on Saturday.

1039
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 6: I really I believe in the defense, like I'm super

1040
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 6: excited about them, everything we got going. I just really

1041
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 6: look forward to our passing game. I want to be

1042
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 6: able to see we can get the ball, like some

1043
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 6: some deep shots, some deep balls going through the air

1044
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 6: with Judy Amari Cooper, just some just some some some

1045
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 6: passes because I know a running game is amazing. Our

1046
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 6: offensive line is sick, but I just want to be

1047
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 6: able to see some some explosive shot plays and just

1048
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 6: get to get the crowd going because I think everything

1049
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 6: else that we got with defense, offensive line, running backs,

1050
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 6: skill positions are amazing. But just seeing that ball go

1051
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 6: through the air and some touchdown passes.

1052
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: We definitely saw it a little bit on on Monday,

1053
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: yes or Sundayday.

1054
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: Sunday Sunday you saw.

1055
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: You saw a bunch of vertical balls. I'll tell you

1056
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: yesterday when they're in pads. This d line is a problem.

1057
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: We don't have like we left, tackles are out.

1058
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 3: It is a problem. It's a problem. A cross really

1059
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: dewand is kind of just like a black hole. He

1060
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: just vaporizes whoever's across room. But there's a lot of

1061
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: pressure and they can just come in waves. And that's

1062
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 3: no Dalvin, no Dalvin.

1063
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: And so that's let me tell you something.

1064
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: Quentin Jefferson in this defense, if he gets the opportunities right,

1065
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: so he's gonna and I think he's gonna be competitive.

1066
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 3: Who's gonna be the sub package interior pass rusher? Because

1067
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: we could go Miles, Zadarius, Alex Right, and Obo. We

1068
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 3: can go four defensive ends and put two of them inside.

1069
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 3: Miles can be inside that, areas can be inside. Outs,

1070
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: Right can be inside. So we can just go complete

1071
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: Nascar and yeah, or we can go three and one.

1072
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: Who's gonna be that one? Quinn Jefferson, you know, sixteen

1073
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: sacks last three seasons, six last year, probably a good

1074
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 3: candidate for that. And then you got my Hall, which

1075
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure is a rookie. What he's gonna do

1076
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: with subpackage rush the quarterback more than he can do that,

1077
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 3: he can do that. So I don't know if anybody's

1078
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Speaker 3: get the opportunity. Quin Jefferson spoke to me today, He's like,

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00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: you know, I want to get ten sacks this year.

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00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 3: I don't know if any of the interior guys will

1081
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: get those kind of opportunities, but they will always be

1082
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: one on one, always, yes, and so it is possible

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00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: that we could. We set the franchise record for sacks

1084
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: last year. I think we're gonna shatter that this year.

1085
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: I think we've made Zadarius is healthy and last year

1086
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 3: he played, he battled through a back that was that

1087
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: that nagged at him all year. You bring in a

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00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 3: pro like Quentin Jefferson, then you bring in a young

1089
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: bull like you know, Mike Hall, and all of a sudden,

1090
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: it just Alex Wright's continuing to get better. You know,

1091
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: he had a sack and four straight games to finish season.

1092
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: This could be if we can play games where we

1093
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 3: are ahead and teams in the second half to become

1094
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: one dimensional.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like that's where it is fun for yeah, fun.

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00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: To come out coming out. Yeah, sure, exactly. You know

1097
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Speaker 3: that's where good good seed is always Jo Sandy Game

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Speaker 3: Insider Later today, me and Joe get ready for it.

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Speaker 2: Alright, Second hour a reminder training camp practice set today

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00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: four fifteen. I believe four fifteen ish is the idea

1112
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: and I know great, yeah, maybe you are probably trying

1113
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: to make your way out here. We've had some crazy weather,

1114
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: a lot of rain over through the last twenty four

1115
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: hour hours or so, starts and stops that could be

1116
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: in play. Right now, we're full go. We just saw

1117
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: everybody cruising through the great Mike Vrabel bouncing stride him.

1118
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: He's got a certain stride to him. He's bouncing through.

1119
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: We had why tell her on in the first hour

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00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: of the program around the league. Obviously, we are in

1121
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 2: the center of one of the big stories in the league,

1122
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: and that is the potential trade of Brandon Ayuk. You said,

1123
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: the reporting last night from NBC out in San Francisco,

1124
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: and then Florio, I'm sorry, Schefter this morning was some

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00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: reporting as well. Z went through it. We went through

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00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: it in the previous hour. Just to give you an

1127
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: idea if you're just joining us very much in play.

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Speaker 2: The thing that Z said, and I've parroted many many

1129
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: times through the years, is here's the deal. If there's

1130
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: an opportunity to make this team better, this front office

1131
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: and this ownership will do everything in its power to

1132
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: make the team better. But they will not do it

1133
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: at a cost that they don't want correct both financially

1134
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 2: and also within the roster.

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Speaker 3: So correct they.

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Speaker 2: They will not. They will always negotiate in a position

1137
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: of strength in these scenarios, and so that's probably what

1138
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: is going on here. We don't have any reason to

1139
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 2: believe that anything's iminent. We don't have any reason to

1140
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: believe that anything isn't. It's very possible that this is

1141
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: the ball, and there's been reporting on this this morning

1142
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: that the ball is in Brandon Ayuk's court and him

1143
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: and his representatives and they can see if they can

1144
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: get a deal from there, and then something could come

1145
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: together very very quickly. But we don't know where that

1146
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: stands today, correct, And that's that's.

1147
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: Where it is. So it's one of those things where

1148
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: we'll probably all find out at the same time if

1149
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 3: something were to happen. So we'll, uh, we'll see. But

1150
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: this is this This is a Browns football team that

1151
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 3: is right now. They love their top four receivers with Cooper, Judy,

1152
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: Moore and Tillman.

1153
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 5: Uh.

1154
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: If they feel that they can improve, they're going to

1155
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 3: do it, and we'll see what that ultimately looks like.

1156
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: I do think I'm curious to see what you know,

1157
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 3: we've heard now that the Packers will be playing people.

1158
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: I'm very curious to hear, you know, hopefully we'll get

1159
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 3: to hear that sooner rather than later. What that looks

1160
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: like for the Cleveland Browns and this preseason opener.

1161
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: If you were Kevin Stefanski, what would it look like

1162
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: to you?

1163
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 3: That's a tough that's a tough question, reloaded question. You're welcome,

1164
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 3: given that I know that I'm not playing my guys

1165
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 3: in week two. Yeah, I would want them to at

1166
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: least come out, and I don't even care if it's

1167
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 3: the most vanilla opening series in the history of the game,

1168
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: but just maybe come out so they can practice coming

1169
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 3: out of our locker room, going through a pregame, taken

1170
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 3: a series, and then being done. And I'm fine with

1171
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 3: that because otherwise you're not going to have that experience

1172
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Speaker 3: at home before the home opener.

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Speaker 2: So I was turning with this this morning, and it's

1174
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Speaker 2: you know, we had when we had Joe haydena and

1175
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Speaker 2: even he was still in the when he played mode,

1176
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 2: which was third preseason game, dress rehearsal, fourth preseason game gone.

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00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: That's all flipped because of the three preseason world we're

1178
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: in now and the fact that a gross many of

1179
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: these teams in the league do joint practices now, so

1180
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 2: the calendar for that typically sets up first preseason game

1181
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 2: a joint practice. Although the Lions and Giants are going

1182
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 2: right now and they're fighting every day, they're doing their

1183
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: joint practices.

1184
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Speaker 3: Lacey and Kevin O'Connell, I don't I just don't see

1185
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Speaker 3: that happening with our practice. Those are like but that's

1186
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: the Lions are.

1187
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Speaker 2: And the Giants too. Of course Stable and those guys

1188
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: come on, it fits exactly. Uh, they drafted Neighbors because

1189
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: he's a dog and I think is going to be

1190
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Speaker 2: very very good.

1191
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Speaker 3: But that's why they.

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00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: So the new way to look at this, if you

1193
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Speaker 2: don't play in the Hall of Fame game is first

1194
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: preseason game you get a little run. Second that you

1195
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 2: have those joints that you give up a rest, then

1196
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 2: the third you give up some run.

1197
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're exactly right about that. All right, it's good.

1198
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 3: Get some water in there, get some water in there,

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Speaker 3: get it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

1201
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 3: But I think you know, even if you think about

1202
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 3: last year, starters didn't play in the Hall of Fame game,

1203
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 3: they did play a little bit of a against Washington,

1204
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: then they did not play with the joint practices in Philly,

1205
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 3: and then they did play against Kansas City. So if

1206
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 3: you follow last year's model, it would stand a reason

1207
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 3: that the starters would play a little bit in this game.

1208
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: Then they would play not at all in game number

1209
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 3: two against Minnesota, and then they would play a little

1210
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 3: bit more against the Seattle Seahawks in Week three. Although

1211
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 3: I wonder how that trip and if any of that

1212
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 3: affects it. But I believe Gibbe said we're going out

1213
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: there two days early, so they'll be very acclimated for

1214
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: the game. It's just coming home is going to be dreadful,

1215
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 3: but you got a bunch of time to recover.

1216
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: Rest on the back end of it is there. But

1217
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 2: I do wonder if that ten eastern kick, if that changes,

1218
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: you know, kind of the way that you would normally

1219
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: view that one. So yeah, that's something worth monitoring. This

1220
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 2: is such an abnormal preseason for us with that last

1221
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: game all the way out west on a Sunday night late,

1222
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 2: so I mean that that's not something you normally see

1223
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: around the league. There's quite a bit of news elsewhere.

1224
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: I mentioned the joint practices with the Lions and the

1225
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: Giants and the fight that broke out there yesterday. They

1226
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 2: were fights as well. But honestly, knowing the front office

1227
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 2: of the Lions in terms of we know Dors very well,

1228
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: and we know Chris, I know Chris Pielman very well,

1229
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell we know from hard knocks, like even what

1230
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: we're seeing from Deuce, Yeah, like there's that's just their deal.

1231
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 2: And then mix that with Dable my guess is they

1232
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 2: love this as long as nobody gets hurt.

1233
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 3: Correct, I'm sure that they do love it. This is

1234
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 3: a it is a physical it's a league of physicality.

1235
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 3: Is a league where you've got to compete and in

1236
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 3: some cases impose your will. I mean, I think for

1237
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 3: the Browns, I go back to, you know, the game

1238
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: against Baltimore. Not only did you have Deshaun Watson performing

1239
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: at the level that he did fourteen for fourteen in

1240
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 3: the second half, but you also had you know, in

1241
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 3: that game, Dave Nijoka when the Angry Runs award for

1242
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 3: carrying Geno Stone like a backpack fifteen yards. And then

1243
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: you also had the rugby scrum where we pushed their

1244
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 3: entire defense, you know, twenty yards down the field. So

1245
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 3: that was imposing your will. That was the physicality. That's

1246
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 3: what it's all about. And so yeah, you could see that.

1247
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 3: By the way, speaking of some of the guys who

1248
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: imposed their will, Ethan Posa and our guy Big Thanos,

1249
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 3: Dewan Jones, well the birthday, said, I happy birthday to

1250
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:21,959
Speaker 3: those guys. I love Doan.

1251
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: Well, how about it, Dewan was?

1252
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 3: I love Dowan. He's easy to fall in love with. Totally.

1253
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 2: And what I think it's so cool about him is

1254
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: how he took to it. And I think the fact

1255
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: that he was drafted here and at the time drafted

1256
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 2: to play for Bill Callahan taught him how to be

1257
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: a pro. And he could look over and he could

1258
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: see Wyatt and Joel and he could go, oh, this

1259
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: is what a pro does. And sometimes that's all it takes.

1260
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 2: Because the piece of clay with him was always there.

1261
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: I mean, he was dominated at Hio State. At times

1262
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: it was just where's the lock in? And now he's

1263
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: got it And it's what he was doing when he's

1264
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: pointing at guys and ugh, come on, he's ready to.

1265
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: Bring it on. He's so ready. He uh has a

1266
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: chance to be one of I don't want to go

1267
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: to Hyperboleans av He has a chance to be one

1268
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 3: of the most dominant pass blocking tackles in the NFL

1269
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 3: this year. Like I think, if he plays seventeen games,

1270
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 3: he will be a pro bowler and will be in

1271
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: the running to be in All Pro. Think of the

1272
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 3: theft and he was a fourth round pick, was a

1273
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: third round I mean the two when you did not

1274
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: have a first round pick, you were able to get

1275
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 3: first round talent in mj Emerson and also in Dwan Jones.

1276
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 3: That's incredible. Now this year remains to be seen if

1277
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: you're able to do that as well. But you've gotten

1278
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 3: your You've gotten two of them, yep, without a first rounder,

1279
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 3: which is incredible. Yeah, and they and just dudes and

1280
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 3: j Okay is a first rounder that you got in second.

1281
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 3: They're like they've done.

1282
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: They're pro Bowl guys, yes, and you're you're able to

1283
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: land them. So that's a very good job at aby.

1284
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 2: Here's the thing that I don't understand.

1285
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: And one of the lists we were going through and

1286
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe it's rundown today, but I handed

1287
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 3: mine over there to Joe Hayden, So I'm flying blind.

1288
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 3: If we never did those cornerback rings.

1289
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it coming up

1290
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 2: here in a second right, if right, if we get

1291
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: through some.

1292
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 3: Of the well, it's just a there's an absurdity. The

1293
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 3: exclusion of m j Emerson from that is to me

1294
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 3: just it's.

1295
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 2: Rotten hard knocks training camp with the Bears Premier Premiers

1296
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: tonight at nine o'clock on HBO. Go Ahead.

1297
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 3: It's too much. There's too much to watch. There's too

1298
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 3: much going on. By the way I found the Olympics.

1299
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: I'm loving the Olympics. I haven't had this much fun

1300
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: with the Olympics in a long time. I'm loving watch.

1301
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: Sing I have too. We're watching as a family same,

1302
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 2: which is really cool.

1303
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1304
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 3: Somehow I'm keeping away from most of the spoilers. Me too,

1305
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 3: so I don't check in during the day. I hate

1306
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 3: when I get an alert where it's it's like they

1307
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 3: tell no, don't tell me. I don't want to know.

1308
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: Do you think you'll have the same enthusiasm for it

1309
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: now that the swimming and gymnastics is over, because those

1310
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: were kind of the ones.

1311
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 3: That have carried I enjoy watching some of the track,

1312
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: you know, the sprinting's fun.

1313
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 4: You know.

1314
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: I would became a huge fan of the Turkish pistola guy. Yeah,

1315
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: I mean, you got people eight hundred contraptions out there,

1316
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 3: you know, with goggles upon goggles and glasses with thirty

1317
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: eight monocles, and they're just like very precise, and he's

1318
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 3: just like pulls up with nothing. It's like boom, silver next.

1319
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 3: Like that guy's gotta be a hit man or something.

1320
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 3: I mean, he's too he's too good. Yeah, that guy,

1321
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: Like I love that guy. Uh No, obviously, I love

1322
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 3: the swimming and the diving. Gymnastics is very fun to watch.

1323
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 4: Man.

1324
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 3: The balance beam was just brutal for them last night.

1325
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 3: I mean nobody could stay on that beams.

1326
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: I think they were kind of just house money. I

1327
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: think so too.

1328
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 3: But like when Simone was on there, she just put

1329
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 3: in a decent routine. She was gonna win gold probably, Yeah,

1330
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: I mean, how cool though, for the Italian young Italian

1331
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 3: lader the first that's the first gold medal and gymnastics

1332
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 3: for the country of Italy. Ever, Like that's cool.

1333
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: That's very cool. Yeah. And I thought what they did

1334
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: with the Brazilian girl who won the floor was.

1335
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 3: Really and she's like Simon's kind of like protege basically.

1336
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1337
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think it's been very, very enjoyable.

1338
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 3: Now we're getting into the metal rounds and you know, hoops, and.

1339
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 2: I paid attention to none of that to this point.

1340
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll watch if it gets down to it. I

1341
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: just soccer ball.

1342
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: Could come out of it.

1343
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't been paying attention to the soccer

1344
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: at all. And it's funny because I pay attention to

1345
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: the World Cup. Obviously a great deal and I'll watch.

1346
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll watch some European stuff on the men's

1347
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 2: side of things, but I love the Continental Championships with

1348
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: the gold medal stuff. It just hasn't done it for me.

1349
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: And I know they're playing now, aren't they?

1350
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 10: Yes, they are, And I will not, okay, if you

1351
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 10: want to spoiler and give it to you, If not,

1352
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 10: I won't.

1353
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: If we don't win the Golden the two basketball is

1354
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 3: like what are we doing? And by can I ask you?

1355
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 3: How is our three on three team? Not like Jalen Brown?

1356
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 2: So the next NBA guys can't play in it because

1357
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: you have to hit all of these qualifications that happen

1358
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 2: over the course of the year. So you have to

1359
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 2: qualify one step after another. It's not like you just

1360
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 2: put the three best. But what about the dudes from

1361
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: the Big Three? Well that was Ice cubeses thing is

1362
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: but apparently even those guys so like Jimmer Furdette was

1363
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: on our team. Yeah, but like we couldn't have like

1364
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: our dudes. Here's the thing that I think stupid. They're

1365
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 2: both basketball, they're both basketball.

1366
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 3: The rules should be the same totally. So if NBA, guys,

1367
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 3: what do we need a three on three Olympic event for?

1368
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: We don't. It's just basketball. Yeah, we played, He's not

1369
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: a different sport. It's just basketball.

1370
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 3: Well, I guess they would say it's like instead of rugby,

1371
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 3: there's full rugby and then there's rugby.

1372
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 2: Seven's you know my hot take that's my hot And

1373
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: as a swimmer, you'll you're gonna not like this. What

1374
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: are we doing with this butterfly?

1375
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 3: What do you mean?

1376
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 2: What are we doing with this thing? It's a great stroke.

1377
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: It's not a great show.

1378
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 3: It's the hardest stroke to do.

1379
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: That's exactly it.

1380
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 3: I always say the rest of them, of course, we

1381
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 3: all maybe Z was great everything. I only I never

1382
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 3: was in. I never did butterfly individually as its own event,

1383
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 3: but I was. I did the individual medley, so I was.

1384
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: I was a good enough butterfly.

1385
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: But so all the rest of the strokes, I'm like, Okay,

1386
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 2: that's practical. It makes sense if you're in a situation

1387
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: where you're trying to stay alive, which I'm guessing is

1388
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: how swimming started. Let's stay alive right backstroke, breaststroke, freestyle,

1389
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 2: all well, you could stay afloat it's kind of like

1390
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: you're treading water on the breaststroke. The way now they

1391
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: accentuate it to go way up and way down, but

1392
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: like just the motion of it is is kind of

1393
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: treading water, just accentuated. No one is going to butterfly

1394
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: ever by choice in the history of your life. Have

1395
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 2: you ever seen anybody who's not training for something go

1396
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: do that.

1397
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 3: No, but I've never seen that. I mean people just no.

1398
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why.

1399
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: But it's the most dolphin like stroke, and dolphins are

1400
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 3: true continue.

1401
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: To not be dolphins.

1402
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 3: They're mammals.

1403
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 10: The mammals, and they've allowed too much dolphin kick and

1404
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 10: other strokes that wasn't supposed to be. My dad was

1405
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 10: my swim coach, and he forced me to do butterfly.

1406
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 10: I never did it willingly. My best stroke was the

1407
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 10: breaststroke butterfly. He learned his lesson very early. Don't put

1408
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 10: my son in those events.

1409
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,439
Speaker 3: Well, they used to not let you dolphin kick under

1410
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 3: the water in basically anything. I mean, you could backstroke

1411
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 3: that was always part of the start was kind of

1412
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 3: on your back. The dolphin kick freestyle you could, but

1413
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 3: you're supposed to dolphin kick back up to the surface.

1414
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 3: Like the original thinking was you're supposed to go it's

1415
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 3: shallow on your dive as you could, and now they

1416
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 3: go deep and they get out there and they've limited

1417
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 3: the backstroke. You can't be underwater past fifteen meters. But

1418
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 3: like breaststroke, I don't remember there being dolphin kicked do.

1419
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 3: You used to have to kind of dive in and

1420
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 3: just glide and then you got to do one pull

1421
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 3: down and then you'd come up.

1422
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 10: And now they have a dolphin dolphin pull out and

1423
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 10: then they come up to the surface. Plus in the

1424
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 10: individual medley, you weren't allowed to do any sort of

1425
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 10: flip turn, and now it's like a modified flip turn

1426
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 10: that they allow everybody to do. So it's all it's

1427
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 10: all different. I just that's what gets me. But you know,

1428
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 10: if you're enjoying the event enough, it's those things don't.

1429
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 2: Really love it. I love all of it. I just

1430
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: I was arguing with my wife and I'm just like,

1431
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: this is a not this thing is nonsense. This this

1432
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: butterfly thing one thing.

1433
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 3: I want to run by it when you see a

1434
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: guy though, like Leon, I'm not saying it's not impressive awesome,

1435
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 3: It's really impressive.

1436
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: It just seems nonsensical to me. Okay, all right here

1437
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 2: it is? You ready for this?

1438
01:02:58,480 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 3: I don't know?

1439
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 2: Is there Well, you're gonna like more than that?

1440
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 4: Okay.

1441
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: Is there a cooler title that you get from winning

1442
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: anything than winning the one hundred meters fastest man Alive? No,

1443
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: it's the coolest.

1444
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 3: I so it is the coolest undisputable, right, there's no

1445
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 3: arguing it. Well, that's what I like about it, I am.

1446
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 2: There's nothing subjective.

1447
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 3: That's why it's hard with the judging events that mean too,

1448
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 3: I hate that. I hate that. Like that's why I

1449
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 3: like about swinging. Did you touch the wall first? You did? Cool?

1450
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 3: You win?

1451
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: You win?

1452
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,439
Speaker 3: Did you did you get to the finish line first?

1453
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 5: Cool?

1454
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 3: You win? That's it's obvious. Did you outscore the team?

1455
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 3: In basketball? Now they get officials in there, and of

1456
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 3: course it can be Shenangan's that way. But I like

1457
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 3: the pure sports that and what's fun about those is

1458
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 3: typically you kind of know who's gonna win even before

1459
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 3: they do it, because you just know what your time is, like,

1460
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 3: you know you're faster than the other people.

1461
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I know, fastest man Alive is pretty cool.

1462
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 3: It is great And I thought it was cool. The

1463
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 3: fastest woman alive. I want to say it was from

1464
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 3: Saint Lucia. Saint Lucia and when their first ever medal,

1465
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 3: the country's first ever medals goal, Like that's cool. Here's

1466
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 3: the thing I have for the for the the opening ceremonies.

1467
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 3: When a country comes up, I need to know their

1468
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 3: country's complete metal history, Like I want to see the

1469
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 3: countries that have never won a medal, or they've only

1470
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 3: won one, or and that if they've never won one,

1471
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 3: they'd say, like, you know, this year they think they

1472
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 3: got a shot in the you know yah, watch out

1473
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 3: for her in one hundred meters could win the first

1474
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 3: metal because that's fun to roof for a country to

1475
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 3: get their first medal.

1476
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it came at the expense of our girl,

1477
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 2: Karry Richardson. She ended up second in that, but yeah,

1478
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: and so we have two hundred tonight, two hundred to

1479
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: night and the Saint Lucia girls looking for the double,

1480
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 2: and so isah Lyles.

1481
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 3: But we have we've got dudes. Though, we've got dudes.

1482
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 3: But did you see our our our top qualifier in

1483
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 3: the two hundred looks to me like she's gonna win.

1484
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 3: She smoked everybody. Yes, she wasn't even no, she didn't

1485
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 3: even break us sweat. She was everybody at all. And

1486
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: she's like, what's I said to the boys?

1487
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: I was, we were watching the one hundred meters qualifying

1488
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 2: and or no twometer qualifying last night, and I said,

1489
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 2: I go, do you notice like when they're done, they're

1490
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 2: not even breathing hard? And so NBC twelve year old

1491
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: NBC goes, well, Dad, I could probably do that if

1492
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 2: I trained for four years. I said, no, you couldn't.

1493
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 2: And you didn't join for you didn't train for ten years.

1494
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 2: You're sitting near on your phone on Snapchat and playing

1495
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: college football on the Xbox.

1496
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah that's the difference.

1497
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't do all of that, and they did.

1498
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 3: Correct one huge miss. When I was a kid, one

1499
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 3: of my favorite video games ever was The Barcelona Olympics.

1500
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 3: It was on Sega. It was, oh wow, epic game.

1501
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 3: I remember diving all of it. It was one of

1502
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 3: the best video games I've ever had. And then they

1503
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 3: made a Winter Games. I think they had a little

1504
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 3: hammer that was awesome and you could do the biathought

1505
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 3: ski and then you come and bobs. They had it all. Yeah,

1506
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 3: I looked. I was like, I want an Olympic game.

1507
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 3: I'd play some Olympic games right now. Nothing, bub kiss,

1508
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 3: that's a big miss to me. That's a very big miss.

1509
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: And usually the Olympics do not miss when there's an

1510
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: opportunity to make money.

1511
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, so no Olympic game out there, that's a big miss.

1512
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 3: College football, I'm enjoying it. I went through, I won

1513
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 3: a title. I found that All American is too easy.

1514
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 3: I can score whenever I want, and then Heisman is

1515
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 3: too hard, Like you can lose to an FCS team,

1516
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 3: and they haven't. They haven't got a proper difficulty setting

1517
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 3: to play the computer yet. I did take young Jordan

1518
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 3: to the woodshed. I took FeelA to the woodshed. And

1519
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,919
Speaker 3: so with the Arizona Wildcats against the Buckeyes, by the way,

1520
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 3: really that's oh, you're superior gamer, then well, and Arizona's

1521
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 3: guy that they're one number one receiver is going to

1522
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 3: be a star.

1523
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: Let's relax. I mean, if you're you do you should

1524
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 2: take the Buckeyes of the woodshed. Woodshed, never unless your

1525
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 2: skill is so superior to their skill.

1526
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 3: If you guys are Jordan, I was Texas LSU. Yeah, Texas.

1527
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 2: Well, that's an even.

1528
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:48,919
Speaker 4: That's fair.

1529
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 3: Well, what wasn't He's on the scoreboard, My friends, who

1530
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 3: were you? Texas Quins is out there throwing.

1531
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: Texas is better than LSU, but it should be that

1532
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: should that's a twenty eight seven at the half.

1533
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, this conversation just happened because what do you know

1534
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 4: about college football? And he goes, I know, I got

1535
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 4: whooped by.

1536
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 3: Nate feeling like pretended to take a call from his

1537
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 3: girlfriend to get out of the game. Yeah, Arizona was

1538
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 3: I was screaming bear down and yelling about Zago and

1539
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 3: running through the living would.

1540
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 4: Occasionally run through the Olympic watch area and run back

1541
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 4: into his bedroom to continue to beat that.

1542
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 3: I tell him, I was like, don't press my dude.

1543
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 2: On the outside, I think it's more fun than Madden

1544
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 2: because of the variety of game and because I think

1545
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 2: they have the algorithm on catching and is much better

1546
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: than Madden. The only problem with the game when you

1547
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 2: when you're in the dynasty mode, like the Boys are

1548
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 2: in this We're in some dynasty mozone doing something with

1549
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State and like they like n C State and

1550
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 2: these other teams like in the playoff, so what they

1551
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 2: haven't figured out is quality losses. Yeah, so like they

1552
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 2: only have two SEC teams in a twelve team playoffs

1553
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 2: four loaded, there's gonna be four of them in there.

1554
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: And they had like NC State undefeated, Kansas undefeated. It's like, no,

1555
01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 2: that's not the way that's good.

1556
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 3: I had a murderer throw. I had to go through.

1557
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: Arizona.

1558
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 3: I was Arizona and I had to go through the

1559
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 3: buck Eyes. Oh in the playoffs. In the playoff, I

1560
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 3: beat the buck Eyes, Georgia Oregon back to back to back.

1561
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 2: You played Oregon and the Chipper.

1562
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1563
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's robust. No, it was so you won.

1564
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 2: There was twelve and then you got the bye and

1565
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: then you played buck guys in the quarters Georgia and

1566
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:24,799
Speaker 2: the semi and then Pistol.

1567
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 3: Like I couldn't even recruit because it was air. I'm dude,

1568
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 3: we just won the national championship. I was able to

1569
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 3: get like a couple of five stars and a couple

1570
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 3: of four stars, and then everybody else was like three

1571
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,480
Speaker 3: year But I'm like, which won the national championship?

1572
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: Dude, I was, I was doing this and then I

1573
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 2: just quit on the recruiting. So I'm not going to

1574
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: do another season. I'm like NBC. NBC's like, give it

1575
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: to me, give it to me, and I'm like, what

1576
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: do you mean. He's like, you're not recruiting anybody. You

1577
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 2: got to do this, this and this. And I'm like,

1578
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing a DM there, I'm

1579
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 2: DNA these idiots and I'm losing them to Penn State

1580
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 2: in West Virginia. I'm like, what's going on is not right?

1581
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 2: I'm the buck.

1582
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 4: Guys.

1583
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 2: If I offer you and you're in Ohio and you're

1584
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 2: a five star receiver, you're coming here.

1585
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 3: Well, you're coming, You're coming to You might be coming

1586
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 3: to my version of the Arizona Wildcats, where I think

1587
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 3: my star receiver had like four thousand yards and sixty touchdowns.

1588
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 3: He went number one in the draft, by the way,

1589
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 3: and my quarterback, who was a red shirt sophomore, left

1590
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 3: me and he went like number two in the draft.

1591
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: Oh, he went pro.

1592
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 3: They both went Pro one or two.

1593
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 4: There you go to elite.

1594
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun game. It is fun.

1595
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 3: They and Joe Hayden and I talked about earlier the

1596
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 3: biggest miss of this entire game, like we fired up

1597
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 3: two k who do I I can't remember who I beat.

1598
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 3: Oh Connor beat Connor and two K, but in two

1599
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: K you can just go into the plane now mode,

1600
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 3: and we did. I was All Time Warriors, yeah and

1601
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 3: he was all Time doesn't matter. I don't remember who

1602
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 3: he was. Beat him thoroughly.

1603
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 2: But so your year beef is in the college football game.

1604
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 4: You can Gators.

1605
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 3: Yes, I want Joe Hayden, I want Tim Perris, though

1606
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 3: they don't want to pay all them. They're already into

1607
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 3: EA from now on. The license to be in the

1608
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 3: NFL game should cover the college game.

1609
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 2: Too for those guys. But there's a lapse from two

1610
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 2: thousand and fourteen to now. All those college guys aren't.

1611
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 3: No, right, but they should be able to But you

1612
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 3: could go if they're good, they're in the NFL. If

1613
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 3: they were college, you could do that. They made the

1614
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 3: NFL at some point, you could do that. You could

1615
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 3: do that if you had guys who were already licensed

1616
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 3: in Madden. Yeah then because in Madden, and you could

1617
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 3: do it. In Madden. They had a mode two years

1618
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 3: ago where you could play and there were only eight teams.

1619
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 3: I think there was like Ohio State, LSU, the U.

1620
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 3: I remember that where it was, and that's what it was.

1621
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 3: It was like those the best guys like you go

1622
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,839
Speaker 3: out there with, you know, Deshaun and you know Sammy

1623
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 3: Watkins from college and Mike Williams and uh was it

1624
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 3: Martavis Bryant. Was he a Clemson guy?

1625
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1626
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 5: He was.

1627
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had all these like dudes just running around.

1628
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 3: They probably had somebody else that's better than that. I'm both.

1629
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 2: I think Taj would have been the quarterback, which TOAJ

1630
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 2: Boy'd have been the quarterback for Martavius and Sammy you.

1631
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 3: Might have been the quarterback. I love todje Boyd. Yeah,

1632
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 3: I gues It was a shock that he never was

1633
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: a pro. That was before I really knew it was

1634
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 3: going on.

1635
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1636
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: They landed like five straight five starquarterbacks at Clemson starting

1637
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: with him.

1638
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 3: Had one of the all Times Sports Center interviews. Yes

1639
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 3: maybe ever, maybe ever? Training study group, good, study group.

1640
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 4: Very good.

1641
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 2: Yes he did. We'll do that quarterback rankings PFF versus ESPN.

1642
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,280
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1653
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 2: PFF versus ESPN the corners and you have beef, sir, well, I.

1654
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 3: Do have beef, yeah, because mj Emerson I don't think

1655
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 3: is on either list, which I find to be repugnant, abhorrent, ridiculous.

1656
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 3: If you said to me, I have the master Do

1657
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,719
Speaker 3: you have the master the Master List, the Master List.

1658
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 3: I don't have the list.

1659
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 2: I don't have the list.

1660
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 3: If you said to me, here's a guy who you

1661
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 3: have the list, here's a guy who had four picks

1662
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 3: last year YEP fourteen passes defense, led the team in interception,

1663
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 3: tied for the team leading pass defense on the number

1664
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 3: one defense in the NFL that since entering the league

1665
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 3: has got twenty nine passes defense fifth most in the NFL.

1666
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 3: But how about these things, now, you tell me, does

1667
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 3: this sound like a Pro Bowl corner to you. Completion

1668
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 3: percentage allowed in coverage forty seven point one, second best

1669
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 3: in the NFL, rating allot in coverage forty five point

1670
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 3: three second best in the NFL, touchdowns allowed in coverage

1671
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 3: last year zero best in the NFL, nineteen percent forced

1672
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 3: in completions sixth best in the NFL, fifteen point four

1673
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 3: cover snaps perception ninth best in the NFL. And by

1674
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 3: the way, he was according to PFF. Yeah, and all

1675
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 3: these are the advanced stats. Yeah, CFF stats. Everybody who

1676
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 3: was one, two, three, four, or five in any of

1677
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 3: these all were Pro Bowlers, and most the other ones

1678
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,799
Speaker 3: in terms of where he was number two in completion

1679
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 3: percentage rating and touchdowns which seems to be a pretty

1680
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 3: big deal, and forcing completions everybody around them we are all.

1681
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 4: Pros, I can tell you. On the PFF list, Martin

1682
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 4: Emerson Junior just missed the list. He wasn't ranked as

1683
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 4: one of the top thirty two.

1684
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 3: That's right, that's yes.

1685
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 4: So just on ESPN he was receiving votes, he was

1686
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 4: not even honorable mentioned.

1687
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: Okay, so he's in the shadow Listenzel for sure, but

1688
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: even PFF has Greg ahead of him. And I like

1689
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 2: Greg a lot.

1690
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 3: But didn't MJ have a better season last year than Greg? Well,

1691
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 3: I just gave you those numbers.

1692
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Greg was really good and I think he probably

1693
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 2: should be on the list.

1694
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 3: Greg had his best season last year fourteen games, career high,

1695
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 3: two interceptions, creer high, fourteen passes defense. Now, in those

1696
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 3: things that I was talking about, fifty eight point two

1697
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 3: percent completions, so that ranked twenty seventh. Nineteen percent force

1698
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 3: in completions was tied for six with MJ, so was

1699
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 3: very good there, seventy six point four rating in coverage

1700
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 3: was seventeenth.

1701
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in Brown's on Brown's crime. I'm just saying,

1702
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 2: very good Newsome makes the list. We should have three

1703
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: of these three, yes, yes, And Denzel ought to be

1704
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 2: a lot higher than seventeen and MJ aught in the

1705
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: middle of it.

1706
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, on the ESPN list, Denzel was higher.

1707
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 2: Yes, they get it right on him, right, don't they

1708
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 2: have him what two or three?

1709
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 3: Number two?

1710
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1711
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean the fact that did Greg Newsom receive

1712
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 3: votes in the ESPN that's interesting. I mean ESPN's going

1713
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 3: to ten.

1714
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 2: ESPN's going to ten, and they're going to personnel guys

1715
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 2: office types. That's there.

1716
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean ultimately it's twenty because they by the

1717
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 4: time they get the honorable mentions that there's at least

1718
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 4: seven or eight right there and then.

1719
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 3: And receiving votes. Yeah, as up twenty. So MJ's in

1720
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 3: the top twenty and amongst the league. Yeah, even though

1721
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 3: he should be in the top ten, and Greg they

1722
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 3: shall be in the top thirty two. It's really I

1723
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 3: don't even get it.

1724
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: Is that let's do the consistency thing. Give me the

1725
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 2: PFF top five versus the ESPN top five. Give it.

1726
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 3: Let me see if I can Let's see if Zigger

1727
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 3: can get him.

1728
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 4: I bet.

1729
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey is still on there.

1730
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 4: Number five for ESPN, number six per PFF.

1731
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 3: Jalen Johnson.

1732
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 4: U mean, look here, number five on the PFF list.

1733
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 4: I gotta do some scrolling.

1734
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 3: He should be in the top ten.

1735
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 4: Jalen Johnson, number eight on the ESPN list. A want

1736
01:15:58,400 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 4: of descript here in five.

1737
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 3: Sauce Gardener number one and number one, Pat Certan the second.

1738
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 4: Actually, I'm sorry, I take that back. Sauce Gardner is

1739
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 4: number three on ESPN's list.

1740
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:11,839
Speaker 3: Okay.

1741
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 4: Number one is Pat certain okay, and Certan is four

1742
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 4: on the PFF.

1743
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 3: All right, so we've gotten one three five. You said

1744
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 3: Denzel was two, yep, And what was he on the

1745
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 3: other one?

1746
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 4: Seventeen on the other's I'm missing.

1747
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 3: All I'm missing is number four, number four on ESPN.

1748
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you the uh oh, come on Internet,

1749
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 2: I'm right here.

1750
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 4: There we go.

1751
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 2: All right, Titans, Titans.

1752
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 3: Well he didn't play for them, and last season he's

1753
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 3: a Titan. Now you just signed a big free agent

1754
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 3: deal with the Titans. A corner who do you play for?

1755
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 4: Might have been traded there? I believe?

1756
01:16:59,280 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 2: Was it a trade?

1757
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 3: Is what it was? Oh?

1758
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 7: The jerious?

1759
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 4: Yes?

1760
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 2: So Ramsey five.

1761
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 4: And then he was twelve by the way on pff

1762
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 4: Snead was yeah, yeah.

1763
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 3: Where's us? Like Dari Slay still on the lists?

1764
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 2: He might not be Number six on ESPN was Trent McDuffie. Okay,

1765
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 2: So Casey last year had two of the tops.

1766
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 3: And McDuffie was a late pick.

1767
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 4: Yeah he was twenty. He was twenty eight on the PO.

1768
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 2: Why this is the biggest discrepancy When we were doing

1769
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 2: this like we were comparing.

1770
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 3: Really close. This one is all over the place.

1771
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 12: J R.

1772
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 2: Alexander seven on ESPN.

1773
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 4: Seven on the PFF. Now there's one, there's one.

1774
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: Then Jalen Johnson was eight on ESPN, and then Devin

1775
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 2: Witherspoon and Derek Stingley top ten.

1776
01:17:53,680 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 4: He was five on PFF. Devon Witherspoon was nine Seattle, YEP.

1777
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 3: Rookie, really good player, Yeah he was. Wolan fell off

1778
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 3: a little bit last year after a monster rookie season,

1779
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 3: but they have some pretty good.

1780
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 4: So he was nine on ESPN. He was twenty one

1781
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 4: on PFF.

1782
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a big discrepancy there.

1783
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 4: Ten was Derek Stingley Junior YEP from the Texans.

1784
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 2: Here's the quote on Denzel who was second, fast, fluid,

1785
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 2: upper tier, covered skills, high football like you canmrigate ball, production,

1786
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 2: man or zone. We can match up against just about

1787
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 2: any number one rue receiver due to size and speed.

1788
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 2: He has the elite movement skills to cover in the

1789
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 2: slot when asked in the words, in the words of

1790
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 2: this program, the best mirror corner in the NFL.

1791
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 3: That's right.

1792
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 4: Stingley was twenty seven. Yeah, there's all over the map.

1793
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 4: On over the map.

1794
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, really are I like it though. I like the

1795
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 2: fact that there's still this much discrepancy sometimes in how

1796
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: the people who make the decisions and then PFF's algorithm

1797
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 2: spits it out.

1798
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 3: Well, I just I mean, I think that the case

1799
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 3: I made for him, j Emerson.

1800
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 2: Is that I don't understand how he saw a PFF.

1801
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 3: Those are their stats, and then somehow he doesn't have

1802
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 3: as good of a coverage grade as other people that

1803
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 3: you think would. No, it's wild, it's it's it's unique.

1804
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Speaker 2: wide receiver coach a passing game coordinator, Chattoshit did.

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Speaker 11: You see out of Jerry his first practice during Sunday

1821
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 11: that you know you hadn't seen to this point from.

1822
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 13: That, well, I think it's what we really the most

1823
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 13: important thing is what we did see that we really

1824
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 13: liked in him prior to him being here, and that's

1825
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 13: his versatility. You know, he was able to function inside

1826
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 13: force and make a play on a choice route, and

1827
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 13: then he jumped outside and was able to produce on

1828
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 13: a vertical route down the field. So the versatility is

1829
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 13: one thing that obviously we knew about that it showed

1830
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 13: up on the field in his first few days with us.

1831
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 13: And then I think that what we didn't see because

1832
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 13: you can't see on tape is his ability to function mentally.

1833
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 13: He was able to handle a lot of volume, which

1834
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 13: is great with a person of his physical skill set.

1835
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 13: To match that with the ability mentally to move around

1836
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 13: and play different positions will be great benefit to us

1837
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 13: as a team into him personally if you had There.

1838
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 8: Are rumors out there that the Browns might be praying

1839
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 8: here for Brandon and I you I didn't gonna ask

1840
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 8: you about him personally, But how.

1841
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 4: Difficult is it to bring a.

1842
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 2: Guy in a month before this season starts.

1843
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 4: And get him up.

1844
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1845
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 13: My focus right now truly is on the guys that

1846
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 13: are here on this team. And I'm gonna say this,

1847
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 13: the group that we have right now has worked so

1848
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 13: hard both in the off season and then so far

1849
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 13: in training camp of doing the things we asked them

1850
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 13: to do, they've been able to really stay in the

1851
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,679
Speaker 13: present and really work to improve every day. And uh,

1852
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 13: it's a very enjoyable group that I'm working with at

1853
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:39,719
Speaker 13: the Cleveland Browns.

1854
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 3: Certain you were asked, sorry, but how have you seen

1855
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 3: Cedric Tillman kind of tackle learning coming into this year,

1856
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 3: taking some of the things he maybe struggled with a

1857
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 3: little bit last year even and.

1858
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 5: Apply them so he's ready for the year.

1859
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1860
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 13: I feel like Cedric's really attacked the off season. He's

1861
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 13: done the same here in training camp. He's really worked

1862
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 13: so hard to again learn the offense to be better fundamentally.

1863
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 13: You can see a player in year two how he's improved,

1864
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 13: but that's he's improved because of how he's approached it.

1865
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 13: And I can't say enough about his work ethic and

1866
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 13: what he's done to try to improve every day. I mean,

1867
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 13: we really have tried to put the focus with the

1868
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 13: receivers of just let's be day to day, stay in

1869
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 13: the president and really work to improve daily. And he's

1870
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 13: a great example of that.

1871
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 11: He said one of the things that he's talked to

1872
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 11: you about his consistency.

1873
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 4: So how did you see him just Growkay that he's

1874
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 4: see what you guys.

1875
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 3: Talked about in building that.

1876
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 13: Yeah, that was a difference in his rookie year. There

1877
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 13: were some things that he did really well and then

1878
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 13: there was a lack of consistency at times. But that's

1879
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 13: what he's really working hard on right now, to be

1880
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 13: a more consistent player in all areas we asked the

1881
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 13: receivers to do so much, whether it's in the run game,

1882
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 13: it's in the past game, even in some protection that

1883
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 13: we've asked said to do. And I believe that he's

1884
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 13: done a great job of embracing that role and being

1885
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 13: more consistent in all those areas.

1886
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 12: Is how about David Bell? How's David coming.

1887
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 13: Along this year? Think David's had a great training camp

1888
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 13: so far. I mean the word that always comes with

1889
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 13: David is the word dependability. He's been dependable in various

1890
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 13: roles for us. He's able to handle multiple roles for

1891
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 13: us in different ways. He helps our team. So I

1892
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 13: can't say enough about David Bell. And again when I

1893
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 13: say the word David Bell and his name, dependability comes

1894
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 13: right with that.

1895
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 12: What are you seeing with is Michael Woods obviously enforce

1896
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 12: an injury last year and give.

1897
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 13: Them back out You're now a chance to be Yeah,

1898
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 13: I see a player in Michael Woods that you know,

1899
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 13: had the injury last all season, a player that's moving

1900
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 13: past the injury, you know, I think both physically and emotionally.

1901
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 13: I think one of the things about coming back from

1902
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 13: an injury like that is not only physically you need

1903
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 13: to go out there and have the confidence you can

1904
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 13: do it, but most importantly is emotionally and mentally that

1905
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 13: you feel confident that you recover from the injury.

1906
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 4: And I'm seeing that in his game.

1907
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 13: Mike's always been some body that has really strived both

1908
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 13: at the line of scrimmage in the top of the route,

1909
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,799
Speaker 13: his ability to separate, and you're starting to see those things.

1910
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 13: Like we knew Mike before the injury.

1911
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 11: I'm not a new roster, but Jamari Brash.

1912
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,560
Speaker 2: What have you liked from him as you've gotten to

1913
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 2: see him out in the field and get to.

1914
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 3: Know him as a person.

1915
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 13: Yeah, Jamary's we knew he was a very instinctive player

1916
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 13: that brought some value inside as well as outside. And

1917
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 13: that's what we've seen so far on the on the

1918
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 13: field and in the meeting rooms. He's been able to

1919
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 13: kind of function in a couple of different roles for us,

1920
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 13: whether he's inside or we choose to play him outside.

1921
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 13: He's done a real good job, and I think like

1922
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 13: all rookies, he's really embracing just improving and learning from

1923
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 13: some veterans in the room that are a great example

1924
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 13: to him, not only on hey, what the plays are

1925
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 13: and how to run the routes, but how to be

1926
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:51,839
Speaker 13: a professional daily. And he sure has been very enjoyable

1927
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 13: to coach so far, and he's working hard, and he's

1928
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 13: a player that I think is getting better every day child.

1929
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 11: I know that Amari's been around the block up a while,

1930
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 11: but his name's linked to these these reports the IU trade.

1931
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 11: Do you have to talk to him at all or

1932
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 11: does he sort of under I mean one of those

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Speaker 11: understand the you know, the business side of things.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I think our I think our team

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Speaker 13: in general has done a great job here under Kevin's

1936
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Speaker 13: leadership of just ignoring all the outside noise. I really

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Speaker 13: believe that you think back of some of the challenges

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Speaker 13: we've had in recent years, of some of the things

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Speaker 13: that have been outside of our building. Like everybody does,

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Speaker 13: every team goes through that where you have noise outside

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Speaker 13: the building. This team at the Browns has done a

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Speaker 13: great job of ignoring that noise and just focusing and

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Speaker 13: on the job at hand and today is to have

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Speaker 13: a great practice and to have great walkthroughs and great meetings.

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Speaker 13: And I can speak specifically for the wide receiver group UH,

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Speaker 13: their focus and their attention to detail and what they're

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Speaker 13: bringing to the table as far as their work ethic

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Speaker 13: every day has been outstanding.

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Speaker 14: WHI should be always hear about it Mary's leadership and

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Speaker 14: a lot here players. What has he youngers career or

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Speaker 14: is at this camp, especially with likes going back.

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Speaker 4: Here to crash fails.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Amari. I mean we all know Amari on the field.

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Speaker 13: We can see that. You can see it on tape,

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Speaker 13: you can see it on TV. But what people sometimes

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Speaker 13: don't realize about Amari because he doesn't say a lot right,

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Speaker 13: is how strong of a leader he is for our

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Speaker 13: team and specifically our younger players that are in the room.

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Speaker 13: You take a rookie like Jamari Thrash who has the

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Speaker 13: opportunity to learn from Amari, and Amari is very willing

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Speaker 13: to provide his insight and not only again the way

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Speaker 13: in which you do things on the field, but maybe

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Speaker 13: more importantly that for a development of a rookie player

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Speaker 13: is how to do things off the field, how to

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Speaker 13: conduct business in the meeting rooms. You know, how to

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Speaker 13: build relationships with both your coaches and the players and

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Speaker 13: your teammates. So Amari's leadership is very strong despite not

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Speaker 13: being at times a very vocal.

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Speaker 4: At the receivers to do a lot.

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Speaker 13: Do you feel like this system is different than others

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Speaker 13: who are maybe other teams story as Yeah, I really

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Speaker 13: feel good about our system in place now because you

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Speaker 13: know it takes players to be very multiple uh in

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Speaker 13: their roles. And that's why we've really gone out and

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Speaker 13: tried to find versatility in our receiver group, because the

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Speaker 13: you know, more versatile they can be. Obviously, we can

1977
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Speaker 13: move them across the formation, we can do different type

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Speaker 13: of routes with them where they might have a couple

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Speaker 13: options on some of these routes. So it's been very

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Speaker 13: enjoyable working with coach Dorsey UH and and you know,

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Speaker 13: merging some of the things we've done here in the

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Speaker 13: past that have been good with some of the new

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Speaker 13: ideas and it's been very refreshing that way, both for

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Speaker 13: the coaching staff and the players.

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Speaker 12: Especially some of the one on one matchups dvs looks

1986
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Speaker 12: like some of the most competitive portions of practice just

1987
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Speaker 12: from the other side, Like, how tough of a test

1988
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Speaker 12: are those defenders than Zel Martin.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I just came in the room a couple of

1990
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Speaker 13: days ago and I said, this is awesome for us

1991
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Speaker 13: as receivers to be able to face the competition we

1992
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Speaker 13: are on a daily basis. I mean, you know, we

1993
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 13: were able to do a lot of crosswork with our

1994
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Speaker 13: secondary here at the Browns, whether it's a release drill

1995
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Speaker 13: after practice or working one on ones or obviously once

1996
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Speaker 13: we get into the team settings and have a tremendous

1997
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Speaker 13: amount of respect for our defensive guys and our secondary

1998
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Speaker 13: and it's really what an opportunity that is for us

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Speaker 13: to work against those guys. And they're great teammates. Our

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Speaker 13: defensive guys are great teammates. They share things that they

2001
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Speaker 13: might have seen it in our route. Hey, maybe do

2002
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Speaker 13: something different here or there. So that's the one thing

2003
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Speaker 13: that not only are they good players, but more important

2004
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Speaker 13: of that, our defensive guys are great teammates to the receivers.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go, chat o'shay from the podium,

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