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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm

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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with my friend Alana Rizzo and Alana,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember which show it was, who can remember

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Speaker 1: what is said and when? But I do recall saying

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Speaker 1: on one of our shows that the only bummer about

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Speaker 1: the season is that the races are kind of decided.

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Speaker 1: We know who the playoff teams are going to be. Well,

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Speaker 1: as I always say, and this is the one intelligent

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Speaker 1: thing I will say, this game makes fools of.

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Speaker 2: Us, all Ken. It does make us look a little

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Speaker 2: bit silly.

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Speaker 3: And I think it was on this very show we

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Speaker 3: had that discussion. But let's look at this from a

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Speaker 3: different perspective. The Seattle Mariners Ken seem to have a

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Speaker 3: pattern of play at this time of year in recent memory.

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Speaker 2: What's going on with the Ems.

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Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure what's going on. Obviously, they're not

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Speaker 1: playing well right now, six and fourteen in their last

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Speaker 1: twenty Remember they went ten and one starting July thirty first,

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Speaker 1: the day of the deadline, looked like they were going

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Speaker 1: to be in great shape. On August tenth, they were

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Speaker 1: a half game out of first, holding the top wildcard

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Speaker 1: spot and again since then six and fourteen, the Astros

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Speaker 1: actually have gone ten to ten over that same span,

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Speaker 1: not exactly burning the house down, and they've gained four games.

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Speaker 1: You see the standings in the wildcard race right there,

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Speaker 1: and this is what we're talking about. The Mariners lead

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Speaker 1: over the Texas Rangers, a team that was left for

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Speaker 1: you know what after the injuries to Siger and Evaldi

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Speaker 1: and so many others. They're just one and a half

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Speaker 1: back Kansas City and Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay that just

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Speaker 1: swept the Mariners. They are now two and a half back,

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Speaker 1: the Guardians three back. Do the Mariners have still a

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Speaker 1: commanding position for the wildcard? Yes, but they are four

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Speaker 1: out in the division, which is a place they should

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Speaker 1: not be. And yes, Alana, as you mentioned to get

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Speaker 1: to what you were referring to, this would be the

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Speaker 1: third straight year that they would miss the playoffs with

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Speaker 1: a really good chance. On September second, September second, right

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Speaker 1: around this time of year, they're seventy seven and fifty eight.

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Speaker 1: They lead the division by a game. They then went

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Speaker 1: eight and fifteen, eight and fifteen. They won three of

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Speaker 1: their last four, but still missed the playoffs by a game. Now,

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Speaker 1: last year was a little bit different, but on June eighteenth,

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Speaker 1: they were forty four and thirty one, lent the division

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Speaker 1: by ten games ten and yet it still didn't happen

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Speaker 1: for them. They go twenty five and thirty nine from

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Speaker 1: June nineteenth to September third, play well down the stretch again,

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Speaker 1: but again missed by one game in the wild card,

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Speaker 1: falling short. So this is a third straight year where

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Speaker 1: we've seen this swoon from them. Now their players are

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Speaker 1: aware of it, they've spoken about it, and clearly they

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Speaker 1: want this bad spell to end. But obviously they know

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Speaker 1: this too. They need to do something about it now.

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Speaker 1: The one qualifier I'll give here is that every team

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Speaker 1: in contention we have seen this sea seem to have

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Speaker 1: these incredible peaks and valleys. So maybe this is their valley,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it'll come out of it again, and especially

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Speaker 1: when they get home, because they've been a poor road team.

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Speaker 1: But this is certainly not what they envisioned. Since the deadline.

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Speaker 1: People talk about, well they improve their offense with Aohano

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Speaker 1: Suarez and Josh Naylor. They did, but Suarez has really struggled.

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Speaker 1: He's one ninety five batting average with the Mariners. Six homers,

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Speaker 1: six sixty five ops. Naylor's been good, but their pitching

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Speaker 1: has not been what it was what it was advertised

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Speaker 1: to be, twenty fourth in the majors in e since

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Speaker 1: That's where the problem is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the pitching has always been their strength, though,

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Speaker 3: although I felt like this year the whole team was

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Speaker 3: a little bit more complete. But Ken, it's not just

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Speaker 3: the Mariners. You discussed it. Why does it seem and

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Speaker 3: I know that this is not the case, but why

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Speaker 3: does it seem like nobody really wants to win the

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Speaker 3: Al West? They continue to jockey for position, but nobody's

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Speaker 3: pulling away.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that, and I don't

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Speaker 1: wide problem. Now. The Astros are in a very good

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Speaker 1: position right now. That was a huge win last night

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Speaker 1: over the Yankees. We'll get into that. But they have

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Speaker 1: been a team that has been riddled by injuries, so

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Speaker 1: necessarily to their potential. Even now they're missing Hater. They've

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Speaker 1: Until you knock them off, they're the champ and they

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Speaker 1: Even with this week's Shenanigans with fromber so sure, they

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Speaker 1: still look like the team that is going to get there,

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Speaker 1: and not only get there, I would expect that they're

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Speaker 1: going to be a problem in the postseason as well.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the MVP race, Ken, because obviously cal

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Speaker 3: Raw very much a huge piece of the Seattle Mariners.

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Speaker 3: But how does it impact the MVP race with Seattle

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Speaker 3: not playing as well as they should be at a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would, And obviously this season is not over,

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Speaker 1: so we cannot make any determination just yet, but Raleigh's

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Speaker 1: chances fade a little bit in my estimation if the

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Speaker 1: Mariners do not make the playoffs, if they fall out

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Speaker 1: of it, that would be a problem. That wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: his fault, of course, And you see the numbers right there, Judge.

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Speaker 1: Still with the massive lead in ops on base percentage. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Rally's got the fifty one homers at catcher, which is incredible.

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Speaker 1: But Raleigh, since I don't know, June twenty fifth or so,

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Speaker 1: something like that. But he was much better before June

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Speaker 3: Hen, let me ask you really quick before we move

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Speaker 3: on to the AL East Judge's division. Obviously, who is

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Speaker 3: the more valuable player to their respective team in your estimation?

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Speaker 3: Is it Hal Rawley to Mariners or is it Aaron

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Speaker 1: It's such a difficult question. They're both extremely valuable to

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Speaker 1: their teams, and Alan I hate to dodge it, but

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Speaker 1: I always dodge this question when AJ asked me on

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Speaker 1: foul Territory, who would your MVP right now? A real

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Speaker 1: good question to answer right now. They're both incredibly important

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Speaker 1: of where he plays. But when you have the advantage

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Speaker 3: All Right, hopefully I don't have that same type of

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Speaker 2: Let's move on to.

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Speaker 3: The AL East, and of course it also seems like

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Speaker 3: this is a division ken that nobody really wants to

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Speaker 3: win this either jocking for position. As you mentioned, we

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Speaker 3: could talk about this league wide because the NL West

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Speaker 3: is the same way. But the Blue Jays gained a

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Speaker 3: three and a half up. In terms of that springer again,

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Speaker 3: Benjamin Button, much like E Roll, this Chapman is doing

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Speaker 3: such an amazing job this season. Offensively, he's third in

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Speaker 2: What do you make of it?

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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to have an interesting showdown this weekend

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Speaker 1: Blue Jay's Yankees, and that's going to be something that

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Speaker 1: I don't know that determines this thing, but certainly if

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about the Red Sox too. Their chances

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Speaker 1: But the Jays, it seems to me they have enough

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Ilana and Jeff Hoffman. He's been up and

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Speaker 1: that have been really bad too, and they're perplexed by it.

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Speaker 1: So the bullpen clearly is a huge question for them,

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Speaker 1: we'll see how they fare this weekend. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be a fascinating series in Yankee Stadium. But I still

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Speaker 1: like the Jays to win this division because of what

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Speaker 1: get into that. Let's get into Anthony, because Anthony had

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Speaker 1: been for the Red Sox such a valuable player. This

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Speaker 1: dude comes up and in seventy one games, two ninety

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Speaker 1: we can certainly see in the future being an MVP candidate.

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Speaker 1: Without him, they're not the same. And you'll see Duran

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Speaker 1: and we saw that game last night. It was kind

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Speaker 1: it was awful. And yes, there were calls, particularly against

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Speaker 1: Devin Williams that should have gone the other way. But

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Speaker 1: Will Warren starts the sixth inning and he's at sixty

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Speaker 1: Now a Yankee fans are saying, oh, you should have

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Speaker 1: bullpen is also an issue, obviously, and they, even after

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Speaker 1: that big win in the series opener, need to show

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Speaker 1: they can play consistently solid baseball against the better teams.

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Speaker 1: This weekend for them against Toronto, a team that they

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Speaker 1: have struggled with all season. Next big test.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 3: Circling back to the Boston Red Sox for just a second.

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Speaker 3: It's a two part question, two different people. They just

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Speaker 3: Grill and Ken? Should code I Senga accept going down.

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Speaker 3: It's his decision based on a clause in his contract.

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Speaker 1: The door keeps spinning. Yes, Senga has struggled. Yes, it's

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Speaker 3: What do you think is going on with Seinga. I'm

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: Ken, the fork ball isn't forking. We know that, Daniel

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Speaker 3: Rothenberg the next question here. Thank you for the super chat, Daniel.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Pitchers always give one hundred percent effort on each pitch.

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Speaker 3: If you signed one to a nine figure extension, would

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Speaker 3: you want them to throw at eighty percent if it

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Speaker 2: What do you say?

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Speaker 1: right now. I know there are many, many, many problems

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Speaker 1: I don't buy that. And to me, shrink the staff

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's such a difficult conversation to have. Everybody throws

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Speaker 3: be creeping up. But if you don't throw one hundred

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Speaker 2: Okay, Cole Bassett's left foot, it's an interesting handle.

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Speaker 1: Ken.

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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on Cardinals hitting coach Brent Brown

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Speaker 3: and manager Oliver Marmle speaking out on kmox Gas House

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Speaker 1: I was a little surprised to see them that honest.

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Speaker 1: Ali Marmle is an honest guy. But this has been

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Speaker 1: They have said these things to him in face to

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Speaker 1: I don't think they were ripping him per se. They

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Speaker 1: were just kind of explaining, Hey, here's what needs to happen,

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I appreciate the honesty. It's it's rare in today's game.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate the questions you guys on Grill and Ken.

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Speaker 3: We will be right back after this break with Dude

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Speaker 6: Dude, dude, dude, okay, Ken, who is your dude of

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Speaker 2: Who are you given props too?

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Speaker 1: All right, not to rub salt in the Red Sox

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Speaker 1: wounds right now, but Rafael Devers and forget the Kyle

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Speaker 1: But since August first, starting August first to ninety one,

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Speaker 1: Melvin was reported to be in trouble. He still might

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Speaker 3: Due to the week, again, nobody wants to win the division.

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Speaker 3: Dang it, somebody please pull away and win a division.

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 3: you're still a hack. He had a laugh about that.

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Speaker 3: His younger brother in the stands. He's like, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: what's such a big deal about his major league debut.

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Speaker 3: No big deal, the perfect response from a younger brother.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the bigs, Peyton Toley, we are very proud

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Speaker 3: of you. Okay, time now for dork of the week. Ken,

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Speaker 3: If you don't mind, I'm going to take honors here

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Speaker 3: and do my dork of the week First. My dork

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Speaker 3: of the week is a Houston astro by the name

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Speaker 3: of from ber Valdez. And why this man decided he

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Speaker 3: was going to throw and hit at his own catcher

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Speaker 3: because he didn't like his catcher telling him to kind

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Speaker 3: of step back off the rubber is unreal to me.

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Speaker 2: You don't hit your own teammate.

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Speaker 3: And again, this is not the first time that framber

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Speaker 3: Valdez has had temper tantrums on the mound or in

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Speaker 3: the clubhouse. Or on the field that's inappropriate. And you

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Speaker 3: heard Eric Kratz say on fair chair foul territory rather

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Speaker 3: that he wanted to punch him right in the face.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know that there's a minor leaguer or

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Speaker 3: a major leaguer that wouldn't want to do the same

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Speaker 3: thing from ber Valdez.

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Speaker 2: You were my dork of the week.

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Speaker 1: All right now, Alana, speaking of poor teammates, and that's

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about here. I want to play for

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Speaker 1: you a clip from the end of our broadcast Saturday

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City on Fox. Bobby, Congratulations, thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Takes back to you, Ken, Thank you, Bobby, Thank you. AJ.

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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure, Thank.

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Speaker 5: You, Jason.

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Speaker 2: Always fun working with you.

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Speaker 5: I'm just mad they didn't get Ken rose Domo.

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Speaker 1: Nice fucking he saw it coming. Now we're talking about

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Speaker 1: teammates here, and we had at the end of the

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Speaker 1: broadcast the situation where Bobby Wick got water dunked on

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Speaker 1: him and I did slip out of the way. I

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Speaker 1: don't always I did in that case, Alana, you know

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Speaker 1: the feeling as well as anyone for AJ to say that,

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Speaker 1: for him to wish ill on me, wish ill on

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Speaker 1: his teammate. He is dork for the week. And I

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Speaker 1: will say this, Alana, this is not the first time

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Speaker 1: he's won the award. Like Fromber, he's a multiple offender.

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Speaker 2: If a Pierzinski Dork of the Week, you.

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Speaker 1: Know you are reading my mind. We are working together instinct. Now,

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Speaker 1: we had the award named for another person. We ended

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Speaker 1: that we didn't want to do that anymore. But we

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Speaker 1: have to rename it for somebody else. We'll rename it

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Speaker 1: for somebody else. Aj, congratulations, doork of the Week again.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I know won't be offended by

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Speaker 1: this one because he's been called wars and two because

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Speaker 1: he doesn't watch our show, doesn't watch our show, doesn't

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Speaker 1: read my stories. Just wishes ill on me at the

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Speaker 1: end of games, right, David.

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Speaker 3: AJ Pierzinski wishing ill will and our friend and colleague

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Speaker 3: Ken Rosenthal. All right, let me ask you this, Ken,

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Speaker 3: before we say goodbye to our TV audience, tell me

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Speaker 3: about your memory from the cal Ripken twenty one to

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Speaker 3: thirty one game.

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Speaker 1: Well, I wrote about this yesterday in the wind up

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Speaker 1: for the Athletic. It's our daily newsletter, it's free, and

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Speaker 1: I've said this forever that was the highlight of my career.

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Speaker 1: That's my column on the left side that night, and

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Speaker 1: it's the highlight of my career because of what that

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Speaker 1: night meant to Baltimore, to baseball coming off the strike,

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Speaker 1: really so the country as a whole. Both the President

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton and the Vice President Albert Gore were in

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Speaker 1: attendance that night, as well as Joe DiMaggio and a

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Speaker 1: zillion other people. It was such a positive, warm, wonderful event.

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Speaker 1: And the thirtieth anniversary is this weekend, and I wish

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Speaker 1: I could be a Camden Yards. I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: in Texas for Rangers Astros, which will be great too,

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Speaker 1: But that was just a special, special occasion and it's

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Speaker 1: always near and dear to my heart. I've covered World Series, Olympics,

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals, NHL finals, you name it, and I've done

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Speaker 1: a lot of amazing things, but that night stands out

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Speaker 1: above all.

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Speaker 2: Thirtieth anniversary.

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Speaker 3: I cannot believe it's been thirty years, Ken, and you

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Speaker 3: continue to have guys like AJ Pierzinski make fun of you.

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Speaker 2: You have come a.

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Speaker 3: Long way in your career, Ken Rosenthal, Happy thirtieth anniversary

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Speaker 3: to the iron Man. That certainly is a record that

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Speaker 3: will never ever be broken.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we have a.

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Speaker 3: Couple more minutes with our YouTube family. We appreciate you

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Speaker 3: guys very much. Ken, you just mentioned it. You have Texas,

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Speaker 3: Houston and Texas this weekend.

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Speaker 2: That's going to be a good one.

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Speaker 3: Because it's Jacob de Gram going up against Hunter Brown.

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Speaker 3: On paper anyway, that's like a pretty good preaching probable.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's a fantastic matchup. And two guys who are

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Speaker 1: in the cy Young conversation, maybe not at the forefront,

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Speaker 1: but certainly in that mix. Crochet and schoobl are the

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Speaker 1: two leaders. Perhaps School and Crochet, I should say it

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Speaker 1: that way. But Hunter Brown has had a brilliant season

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Speaker 1: for the Astros, and Jacob de Kram, of course, has

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Speaker 1: had an amazing comeback season one hundred and fifty innings

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Speaker 1: now for the Texas Rangers, and without Evaldy at least

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Speaker 1: for the time being, he's their ace.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting about the Gram is that, because of of

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Speaker 1: course his injury history, they've cut back on his workload

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Speaker 1: in recent starts. And I was around the Rangers this

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Speaker 1: week and I asked about maybe extending him in this

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Speaker 1: game because of its meaning. Of course, and was told, no,

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Speaker 1: we're going to take it easy with him. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: hopefully get what we can out of him, but it's

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Speaker 1: not going to be letting him go for eight innings.

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Speaker 1: He'll probably be at a five inning level, maybe six.

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to that game. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing Texas too. This team, of all the teams

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Speaker 1: this year, has been one of the most confounding, and

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Speaker 1: that's saying something given all the confounding situations we've seen,

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Speaker 1: sort of like the Dodgers in that they've under really

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Speaker 1: all year long, especially on the offensive side, and now

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Speaker 1: they're without Corey Seeger. They had one span of eight

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Speaker 1: players going on the IL in sixteen days in August,

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Speaker 1: including Seger and Evaldi and Simeon. They're scrappy. They're playing

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Speaker 1: without these guys. They are hanging in there. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they have the offense to sustain it without

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Speaker 1: the players I just mentioned, but here they are. They're

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Speaker 1: just five and a half out in the division and

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Speaker 1: more importantly for them, one and a half back in

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Speaker 1: the wildcard race. I give them a shot. They're too

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Speaker 1: talented not to be in a strong position. And if

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Speaker 1: Seger comes back, which they do expect, even though he

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Speaker 1: had an apendectomy about ten days ago. They expect him

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Speaker 1: back maybe even next week. Then Ivaldi by the end

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Speaker 1: of the regular season. Evoldi's a little bit more problematic

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Speaker 1: and doubtful. Then okay, maybe they have a chance.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying there's a chance before we say goodbye quickly,

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Speaker 3: Ken you talked about Hunter Brown, you talked about Schoogle,

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Speaker 3: you talked about Curshet. Of course, a rolled As Chapman

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Speaker 3: has been unbelievable. Red Sox just extended him for next year.

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Speaker 3: Is he in your cy Young conversation? Or is the

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Speaker 3: only thing he gets is the Mariano Rivera, you know,

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Speaker 3: reliever Award, which is great as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm partial to starting pitchers in the Scion conversation simply

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Speaker 1: because they have greater volume, more innings pitched. If a

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Speaker 1: Roldis Chapman was pitching two hundred innings, okay, well nobody's

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Speaker 1: pitching two hundred, but one hundred and eighty, then it's

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Speaker 1: a different discussion. Perhaps, So the BBWAA is going to

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Speaker 1: institute a relief Pitcher of the Year awards starting next year,

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Speaker 1: and at that point we'll get to honor them in

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Speaker 1: a way that we have not ever in our history. Obviously, Yes,

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Speaker 1: there are the two awards now, the Marianna Rivera Award

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Speaker 1: and the Trevor Hoffmin Award, and that's the spot for

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Speaker 1: a Chapman. He has had an amazing season and actually

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Speaker 1: I've got story about him and sal Perez coming to me.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, look forward to that.

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Speaker 3: We We are appreciative of everybody that joined us today

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Speaker 3: here on Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 3: Ken is on the call for de Gram and Brown,

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Speaker 3: the Rangers and the Astros this weekend, and he is

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Speaker 3: back on Monday with a fresh episode of Fair.

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Speaker 2: Have a great weekend, everybody. We'll see you then