1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: and you I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, he I ghost said, I Nandez. 4 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: Police. 5 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: Hey boo, it's me Raz and welcome to Ghosted by 6 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: Roz Hernandez. I like to talk to people that I 7 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: like about ghosts, aliens, cryptid creatures, anything freaky. I have 8 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: got on somebody that I really like. I mean, I 9 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: don't want to be dramatic by saying this, but he's 10 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: truly one of my favorite comedians, and I'm just gonna 11 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: go so far as to say one of the best 12 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: comedians of all time, a big inspiration to me. And 13 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: now someone that I feel like I can call a friend, 14 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: somebody that I met from this very podcast talking about ghosts. 15 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: Patton Oswalt. He is back on the show and I 16 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: hope he comes back again and we have many, many 17 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: more conversations like the one you're about to hear. But 18 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: before we get to that, I was looking through my email. God, 19 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: you should see the weird shit I get in that email. 20 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: Some of it is good weird, some of it is spooky. 21 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 1: Sometimes I get stories that are a little cute too. 22 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: This one right here is from Kelly. Kelly, thank you 23 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: so much for sending this to ghosted by Roz at 24 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Kelly writes, my house in Vermont sits 25 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: close to the road. When I'm washing dishes, I can 26 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: look out my sink window and see neighbors walking past. 27 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: They usually glance in and we exchange ways. It's not 28 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: super private, Okay, Kelly, I'm sorry this to me personally 29 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: sounds like my worst nightmare. But good for you. I mean, 30 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: it's charming. It really is. My sister Tracy visited us 31 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: in July and we took a trip to Bangor to 32 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: take the Stephen King Tour. It was a long drive 33 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: and when we arrived back home we were tired of sitting, 34 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: so Tracy, my husband Danny, and I stood around our 35 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: kitchen island eating pizza. I glanced over to the sink 36 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: window and I noticed my neighbor walking past, and I 37 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: waved to her. She was looking through the window back 38 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: and forth into the kitchen with a curious expression. She 39 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: hadn't met Tracy yet, so I assumed she was wondering 40 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: who she was. She waved, and when she caught my eye, 41 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 1: she continued on her walk. When she came back down 42 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: the road, we were outside and I called her over 43 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: to meet Tracy. I introduced them and made a remark 44 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: about our classy standing pizza dinner. She said, I thought 45 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: it must be a formal affair, since that man was 46 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: wearing a white shirt and necktie. I said, what man? 47 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: She said, the man in the kitchen standing at the 48 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: island with you. He was wearing a white shirt and necktie. 49 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: Where is he? I said, No one was there but 50 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: us three. She insisted that there was an older man 51 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: there about Danny's height. Tracy, Danny, and I were all 52 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: wearing black or dark gray T shirts. There was no 53 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: way any of us could have been perceived as wearing 54 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: a white shirt and tie. So who was the extra guest? 55 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: Our dad wore a white shirt and a tie six 56 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: days a week before he retired. He passed away two 57 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: years ago. The day of the stand up pizza dinner 58 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: was July tenth, my dad's birthday. He must have wanted 59 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: to celebrate with us. Later, I showed my neighbor a 60 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: photo of my dad and she confirmed that he was 61 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: the man standing in the kitchen with us. Oh my god, 62 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: that is such a beautiful story. I really loved that one. 63 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: And it's so mysterious because, like you, guys didn't see 64 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: him in the room with you, but somehow through the 65 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: glass your neighbor was able to. It's very mysterious. I 66 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: don't know how any of this stuff works, but I'm 67 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: here for it and I think it's a beautiful story. 68 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: So thank you Kelly for sending that. All right, I'm 69 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: going to talk to Patton Oswalt once again. He of 70 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: course needs no introduction. I mean, you've seen him on 71 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: so much TV. He's got his specials on Netflix. I mean, 72 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: it's the voice a rat, a two week a true 73 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: icon of comedy and one of the funniest people ever. 74 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: Here he is Patton Oswalt. And with the show, Oh 75 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: my God, everybody, I am joined by a repeat guys, 76 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: Patton Oswalt, Hello, how are you? 77 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: I am very good, Roz. Thank you so much for 78 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: having me back into the etheric, ghostly world of Ghosted. 79 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: Yes, ah, oh my god, it's such an honor to 80 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: have you on here. You and your lovely wife Meredith 81 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: were the first guests that I had when I like 82 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: changed the format because you know, it used to be 83 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: only people woul like ghost stories for the most part, 84 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: that's right, and I'm like, oh, I hope it's gonna work. 85 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: And then as soon as I was done with you guys, 86 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: I was like. 87 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: It works. 88 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you said the bar Hi. You guys 89 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: were perfect. 90 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: That's very ironic, coming from the fact that, as I 91 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: said on my last appearance, I have never had any 92 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: kind of supernatural encounters and could not be more open 93 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: to it and have never had anything. 94 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: But that's why it's the beast like you're You're very 95 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: down to get weird. You're open, you're here for it. Also, 96 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: I heard from the internet that you're gonna be in 97 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: the Ghostbusters movie. 98 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: Weirdly enough. Yes, I spent the summer in London filming 99 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: the Ghostbusters movie. Got to hang out with Dan Aykroyd, 100 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: who's had nothing but supernatural encounters in his life. 101 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, his whole family. Oh yeah, they're like paranormal royalty. 102 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: Porm royalty. Yeah, it's nuts. And we were in London 103 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: filming in a lot of old locations that had a 104 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: lot of creepiness to them, you know. But again, I 105 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: didn't encounter anything drove me crazy. 106 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: Even with dan Aykroyd there, well. 107 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: You know. I remember I told you the story of 108 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: a couple of summers ago. I was filming something on 109 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: the Queen Mary and everyone on the crew had a 110 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: supernatural encounter except for me. So they were setting up 111 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: a shot and I'm standing in front of this grand 112 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: staircase and then over in video village where I can't 113 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: see someone looking at the monitors said go up there, 114 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: we got to clear the background. There's a crew member upstairs. 115 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: Their shadows moving around, and a PA went up there 116 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: to clear the background, and then came up down and said, well, 117 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: there's no one up there, so I don't know what 118 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: you saw. And by the way, I had been hanging 119 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: out in video village and it felt like the minute 120 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: I got on my spot, all the spirits went, oh, 121 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: he's gone. Go over there, let's start messing around. 122 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: I bet you that that was the ghost of somebody 123 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: that was an aspiring extra. They wanted a SAG voucher. Yeah, 124 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: they were there trying to get a little airtime. 125 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: Get a little health insurance from me on the grave. Yes, 126 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: too late, now, buddy, you should have got that while 127 00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: you were alive. 128 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: So also after your last appearance, you hooked me up 129 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: with your friend Darcy, who does a tour of a 130 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: place in Orange County that's a haunted. She does like 131 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: a ghost tour. 132 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: Oh that's right, Yeah. 133 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: The Kellogg House, which is so cool. Have you been? 134 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: Oh? Boy, no, I've never been to that, and I 135 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: hear it's crazy haunted. 136 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah that's what they say. I don't know. Maybe it 137 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: was because I had just talked to you, but the 138 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: ghosts they didn't want anything to do with me. 139 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, They're like, she's going to go right to Pat 140 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: and no, we don't want any of this. I feel like, 141 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 2: here's what I how I equate it. I feel like 142 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: I'm the person that's in the nightclub or the bar 143 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: that's way too eager and it's giving off needy vibes 144 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: that everyone just keep the hell away. Yeah, he's going 145 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: to write a massive blog. 146 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's gonna end up in one of your 147 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: specials or something. 148 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: Yes, So I got to learn to act like I 149 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: don't care, but I do. I want to see the 150 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: nether world, damn it. 151 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: I feel like there needs to be Do you remember 152 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: there's a show early two thousands that was like the 153 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: pick Up Artist or something, and it was like some 154 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: guy he had like a big old hat on and 155 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: he would like tell men like, here's how you get girls. 156 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: You gotta like act like you're not. Oh, I want 157 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: to be that. But for like people that want to 158 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: talk to. 159 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: Ghosts, Oh my god, teach ghost hunters pick up artist techniques. 160 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure it applies. I honestly do think that 161 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: that is true. 162 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: If you make contact with the Wiji board, wait three 163 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: days before you get back on the Wiji board, don't 164 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: immediately put your hand on the plan chet like make 165 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: them wait. 166 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: Yes, that's so desperate. 167 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 168 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: They don't want that. 169 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: No, they don't pick up artist techniques to meet spirits. 170 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: That's actually kind of brilliant. 171 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. Can I share with you a case that 172 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: I did some research on. 173 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: Boy, sure, here we go. 174 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love how scared you is? This 175 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: is so fun. The last time I did this with you, 176 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: we had Jeff the talking mongoose, Yes, which there's a 177 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: weird story about mongoose ghosts that talked. 178 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: That said rude things, was apparently cursed and was very 179 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: rude and inappropriate. 180 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: Yes, a bitchy mongoose ghost. And this is also something 181 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: that spoke. This is the union screaming house. 182 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 2: Oh boy, and where is this located. 183 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 1: This is located in gorgeous Union. 184 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: Missouri, Union Missourra. 185 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: Have you played Union Missouri. 186 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: I have not played Union Missourra. But I have been 187 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: in Saint Louis, I've been in Kansas City, I've been 188 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: all through the Midwest. The Midwest is, from what I understand, 189 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: crazy haunted, not just with the dead but with the living. 190 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: Apparently the winds. There's an amazing documentary about folk horror, 191 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: the horror that comes out of like rural settings. Oh yeah, 192 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: and it's pre and a half hours long. It could 193 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: have been eight. I would have watched the whole thing. 194 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: It's so good. Woodland's dark in day something. 195 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: I forget it anyway, Yes, I think I remember seeing 196 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: that on shutter or something. 197 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: It's on shutter. But they talk about how the wind 198 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: over the plains Midwest drove people insane. It's non stop 199 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: and it makes people crazy out there. So yeah, Missouri, 200 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: that whole area. Absolutely, I believe that it's haunted. And 201 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: the fact that you're just said, screaming Union House, here 202 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: we go, here we go. 203 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, the wind can keep these screaming goes away. 204 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: Yep. 205 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: So a book was written by the man that the 206 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: story revolves around. 207 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: Oh. 208 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: In two thousand and eight. It's called The Uninvited, The 209 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: True Story of the Union Screaming Houseoo. So there's been 210 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: a lot of details. I didn't read the book. I'm sorry, 211 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't have time. But I did read a two 212 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: thousand and four piece that he wrote on legendsofamerica dot com. 213 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,479 Speaker 2: Uh huh, which. 214 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: I should be on. Thank you. 215 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: Hell yeah. 216 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: So this was before he wrote the book, so he 217 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: kind of gives the beginning, middle, and ends. 218 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, which I appreciate. 219 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: So this is back in May of two thousand and one. 220 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: His name is Stephen A. Chance. 221 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: Oh. 222 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: Stephen is a single father of three. 223 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: Okay, his lease is up. 224 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: He's desperately looking for a place to live, and he 225 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: and his daughter roll up to an open house, a white, 226 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: two story home. It's got original woodwork, all intact. 227 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: Oh. 228 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: The living room is decorated with cherubs, and it's two floors, 229 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: three bedrooms. The basement has an old butcher shower and 230 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: a fruit seller down there. 231 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: Wait, I'm sorry when you say butcher's shower, what does 232 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: that mean? 233 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: Oh, you know, we're a butcher showers. 234 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: So you got a butcher shower in the basement, as 235 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 2: one does. Of course, yeah. 236 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: It says the price is good. He really wanted this house. 237 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: He's like, I need this. It was pretty cheap for 238 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: what it was and they were living in an apartment 239 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: at the time and he had three kids, and he's like, 240 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: I want this house. So the landlady doing this open house, 241 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: she's a strange old lady, and he gives her his 242 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: application and she's like, do you understand the responsibilities that 243 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: come with owning an old house like this? And he's 244 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: like yeah, and she's like okay, And then a week 245 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: later she calls him he got the house. They go 246 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: to a restaurant they sign the papers, which he thought 247 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: was a little weird. Like he's like, I want to 248 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: go see the house, but she's like, m meet me 249 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: at Denny's and we'll go to this. So as he's 250 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: moving in, everything's going normal until somebody drives by and 251 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: they roll down their windows and they're like, I hope 252 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: you get along okay here, and then they just like 253 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: speed off. 254 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: That is the class Class sixth scene at the beginning 255 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: of every slasher and Haunted House movie where the kids 256 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: are going to the camp and there's the old weird guy. 257 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: That camp's got a death curse on it, like it. 258 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: That's the classic opening scene. 259 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: In this movie. I want to play the old lady. 260 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: Land Lady. I hope you're okay with this? 261 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: Oh, Abs, come on, are you kidding? 262 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: So first night is totally fine. Second day he notices 263 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: that all the doors in the rooms and stuff have 264 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: a hook and eye lock on the outside of them, 265 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: as if to keep something in the room, which is 266 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: a little suspicious. He's hanging up a painting. He's got 267 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: a painting of two angels, and he's like, oh, well, 268 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: it goes perfect with the decor of this living room. 269 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: So he's hanging it up and right after he walks away, 270 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: it just falls down. 271 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: Okay, like whatever, big deal. 272 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: But it happened twice. 273 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: Well that's right, then you're out run. 274 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: So the third time he puts it back up and 275 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: he feels a a gush of cold air by his 276 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: feet and it falls again, and he says that he 277 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: literally yelled out like girl stay. I don't know what 278 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: he said, but he said something. 279 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: I don't think he said girl, but yeah, he. 280 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: Said girl stay. He says that after he yelled out. 281 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: It listened. 282 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: Sure. 283 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: So then his daughter's playing outside and she's like, Daddy, look, 284 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: every time somebody walks by the house, they go on 285 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: the other side of the street as soon as they 286 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: get in front of the house. Nobody wanted to walk 287 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: right in front of the house, okay, And he's like, 288 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: let me see about this. So he goes out there. 289 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: He stayed for three hours, and he noticed that every 290 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: single person would cross the street, they didn't want to 291 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: walk in front of it. And he said that if 292 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: he was like, hey, hey, girl, they would turn their 293 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: heads down and nobody wanted anything to do with it. 294 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: Yikes. 295 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: So he also another thing, noticed that there's a tree 296 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: in the yard that has shedding leaves, even though it 297 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: was May and just the one tree a little weird. 298 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: Don't like it. 299 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: So anyway, it's starting to get scary now. 300 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 301 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: One day, while they're doing yard work, he tells his son, 302 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: go get the hose that's in the basement somewhere near 303 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: the butcher shower. The kid goes down there. He runs 304 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: up from downstairs without the hose. He has pete his 305 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: pants and he says that something big chased him up 306 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: the stairs. This is why I don't have kids. I 307 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: would have been like, get down there. Yeah, you are 308 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: younger and faster than me. You will be able to 309 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: outrun whatever that is me with my knees. 310 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: Oh you kidding. Yeah, I mean. 311 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: You're the man of the house. Have you moments like 312 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,119 Speaker 1: this where you have to, like by default. 313 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: I've had a couple of moments where yeah, I mean, 314 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: you're supposed to, I guess, defend the homestead. But one 315 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: of the times when I had to defend the homestead, 316 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: my wife pushed her way past me and stormed out 317 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: in the yard with a baseball bat and started screaming 318 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: at someone while I trailed behind her. So, yeah, I mean, 319 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure that if push came to shove, I might 320 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: stand up out of pure terror, but it wouldn't be 321 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: out of any kind of macho like if there were 322 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: weird noises in a basement, I wouldn't send my kid 323 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: down as bait. But I would also not go stand 324 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: aside everyone, I'm going downstairs, like that's not happening. 325 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: Did your daughter ever say like there's a monster in 326 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: my closet or like anything like that, because that's what 327 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: I would be gone right. 328 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: No, she never had any monster in the closeting. She 329 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: just had a lot of bad dream stuff where I 330 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: could just go, well, that's in your head, that can't 331 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: hurt you. You're just having a dream, and like I 332 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: can't go, well, I'll go into your dreams and fight 333 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: these monsters. So so far, I've been lucky to know 334 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: nothing weird under the bed. 335 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: This is why I don't have kids, probably never will. 336 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: You know, there's that classic I think it's a creepy 337 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: pasta story, super short story where a father goes into 338 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 2: his son's better midnight. The sun's really scared, it's like 339 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: what trolling. He's like, there's a there's a monster into 340 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: the bed and the fatherly does a classic well I'll 341 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: look under the bed and I'll make sure that there's 342 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: nothing there. And he looks under the bed and under 343 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: the bed is his son going there's a monster up 344 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: in bed. 345 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: A oh my god. 346 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. So that's like, whoa is that? 347 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: Where it ends? 348 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: That's it. That's the story right there, all you need 349 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: because creepypasta is all about the shock, right. Some of 350 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: them are really well done. 351 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: That's the thing, though, I need to know what the 352 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: good ones are because I've wasted some time on some time. 353 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, this creepy pasta is gluten free pasta. Right here, 354 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: this is not pasta. 355 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: This creepy pasta is a little overcooked. 356 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: This is zucchini noodles, zoodles. This is not any real pasta. 357 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: Fuck zoodles, fuck zoodles. 358 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I know it's all like old school gender normsy 359 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: like whatever, but I'm gonna come out and say right now, 360 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: of all the reasons I transition, it's shit like that. 361 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: This is the number one reason that I transition is 362 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: because I'm not being no man of the house, none 363 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: of that. 364 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: So hang on, you're saying that ghosts and the supernatural 365 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: is one of the reasons you transitioned. 366 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: Just the idea of man of the house, right right, 367 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: You're like, fuck that. I'm not doing any of that, right, 368 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to home deep. But I will say nowadays, 369 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: when I go to home depot, it's so much better 370 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: because before, like I don't know how to fix anything. 371 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: I know how to I break everything. And so if 372 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: I go just the like it's just all this gender 373 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: norm shit that is like so oh no, I get it. 374 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: You know how many times I bought something and then 375 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: I get home and I'm like, it's the wrong size. 376 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: I should have googled what a screwdriver looks like. 377 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: Well, also, I imagine before you transitioned, you were tall 378 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: and slender, but also muscular and looked competent. Right, I'm 379 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: a man who looks incompetent. So I never get bothered 380 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: with that shit you unfortunately tall, Like, oh that that 381 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: guy knows? Hey, what kind of do I get a 382 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 2: tea boult or an end bolt here? Like? Oh God, 383 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: let me alone? So yeah, exactly, I never get those questions. 384 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm always praying that the one lesbian that works there 385 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: is on shift. And sometimes you get there she's not there, 386 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: and then I'm stuck. Right, But nowadays, Oh, I go 387 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: in there, I put on a red lipstick. 388 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I pad my bra. 389 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: And I'm like, who wants to help me? I need 390 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: a ham? Okay. So back to this man, what he 391 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: decides to do. Oh yeah, yeah, he goes down there 392 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: with the kids, and I don't blame him. 393 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, Okay, he brings a couple, brings the kids 394 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 2: with him. 395 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: I love it perfect, And he says he doesn't find anything. Okay, 396 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: So at this point the painting is fallen, You're noticing 397 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: the neighbors. It's a little weird at this point. 398 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: Maybe ask if the house has a history, or go 399 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: to the local library, Like why is he doing it 400 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 2: all piecemeal like this? 401 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: He's single father three trying to you know, it seems 402 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: like a tough situation when people get in these situations 403 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: because they're like, fuck, I just signed the lease and 404 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: we just did all this move That's another thing. I 405 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: hate moving. So wherever I'm going, I'm staying. 406 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: That's it right right right by the way. 407 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: All this stuff has happened only in the first week. 408 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: Jesus dude. 409 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: So another thing that happened. They keep finding that when 410 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: they come home, the lights are on, all the lights. 411 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: So one morning the two boys go in the car 412 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: before school and he and his daughter go around. They 413 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: check all the lights. They make sure, okay, all the 414 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: lights are off, no one's keeping them on. They get 415 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: home and all the lights are on. That would piss 416 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: me off. Who's paying for that? 417 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 2: Now? That's costing you money? 418 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: Exactly. 419 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 420 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: But one cost that they don't have to worry about 421 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: is the air conditioning because the living is thirty degrees 422 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: cooler than everywhere else. 423 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 2: Ooh, well, that's actually kind of convenient. 424 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: That's nice. There's been some days lately where I'm like, 425 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: if a ghost wants to come in here just for 426 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: like a couple hours in cold spots, exactly. 427 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: Is that the way to solve global warming? This help 428 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: us go. 429 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: This is why mary Anne Williamson needs to win. I 430 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: feel like this is she would do. 431 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: So. 432 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: He notices that all the lights are out. He goes 433 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: around the house. He's literally working up a sweat trying 434 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: to figure out how are these lights again? Another thing 435 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able. I don't know what a damn 436 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: breaker box says whatever. He's trying to figure out why 437 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: the lights are on, can't figure it out. He's sweating. 438 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: That's when he goes into the room and his daughter's like, 439 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: it's thirty degrees or she shouldn't say, but she's like, 440 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: it's colder in here. And then he goes into the 441 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: living room and he notices it is and as he's 442 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: in there, this is the first time that he feels 443 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: a presence. He feels like an electrical current going through 444 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: his body. Oh boy, this was the first night they 445 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: all slept together there in the same room. 446 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: Yep. 447 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: So another time, one night, they're sitting in the living room. 448 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: He's about to go the next morning on a work 449 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: trip and the kids are gonna stay with their grandma. 450 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: He sees by the corner of his eye, like some movement, 451 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: and they're all just sitting in the living room, you 452 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: know whatever. He sees like some movement, and he looks 453 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: over and there is the figure of a man, but 454 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: it's made out of dark mist. It's kind of like 455 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: swirling around classic totally. He looks away, he looks back. 456 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: It's still there. Which is that's supposed to work. You're 457 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: supposed to look away. 458 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: Oh, you're right. 459 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's still there, he says. It starts to 460 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: kind of moving walking, and then it just vanishes. He 461 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: decides to keep calm. He's like, all right, kids, we're 462 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: going to grandma's now. And so they get into the 463 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: car and his son goes, Daddy, look the basement monster 464 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: is standing in the upstairs window. So sure enough he 465 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: looks and that same figure that he just saw was 466 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: looking out the window. 467 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: Figure at the window. 468 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: Oh boy, so patten, in the words of the great 469 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: John kinones, what would you do? 470 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: I mean? Except for it scaring the kids. It doesn't 471 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 2: seem to be overtly like if it's trying to get 472 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: people out of the house, it's not doing a good job. 473 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: It only knows how to minorly annoy people, Like it's 474 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: not making the walls bleed. It's not. I mean, I 475 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: guess it could disturb your sleep, but I mean, the 476 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 2: first thing I would do is look into the history 477 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 2: of the house. I'd either ask the neighbors to go 478 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: to the library. Was there a murder, was there some 479 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 2: kind of thing? But the ghost needs to up its ghostgame, right. 480 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: It's not great at what it's doing right now. Remember 481 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: the Maitlands and Beetlejuice, So they don't really know how 482 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: to haunt a house all that well, like they're just 483 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: so corny. 484 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: With it exactly they were new yeah yeah, yeah. So 485 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: but say you do find out there was a murder 486 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: or whatever, what do you do with that? 487 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 2: Uh? Whush? Maybe get your money back from the wheel term. 488 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: Is there a way to get like either a reduction 489 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: in what the you know, mortgage is or if you're 490 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 2: determined to stay, make it worth your while. If not, 491 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: leave and try to get like a bonus or damages, right, 492 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 2: and get another place. You know what I mean. 493 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: It's kind of state by state, right, I believe the 494 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: different laws on I don't know what it is in Mizori, 495 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: but I think that some states they do have to 496 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: disclose if anything happened. 497 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: Wow. 498 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: Well, okay, it's funny you bring. 499 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: This up because ooh ooh what happens? 500 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: He is, you know, rifling around his shed and he 501 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 1: finds some old belongings of different people. 502 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: Oh shit. 503 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: He's like, all right, I'm gonna call that creepy, weird 504 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: old landlady. This is my second scene in this movie. 505 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: And he asks her, like, all right, it's a little 506 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: weird that. Has anyone ever reported a go? And by 507 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: the way, do you ever ask have you ever asked 508 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: that when you move into a place? 509 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: I have asked, what the especially in Hollywood? You want 510 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: to know anyone famous live here? 511 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: Okay, wait a second, have you ever lived in a 512 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: house that was somebody famous's house? That's amazing? 513 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: No. No, never lived in anybody. But I have a 514 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: lot of friends who have houses where they're like, oh, yeah, 515 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: at one point this person lived here. I had a 516 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: friend that lived in Roddy McDowell's house. 517 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: Cool. 518 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was just like, based on the number 519 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 2: of gay parties that happened in this house, I could 520 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: take a cup of the pool water to a lab 521 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: and regrow tab hunter. 522 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: Ah. 523 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: That was Dana Gould's joke about that. But like Roddy 524 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: McDowell hosted genuinely amazing parties, we would screen things. So 525 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: the history of the house was incredible. 526 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: I love that, and I believe that that vibe can 527 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: stay around. 528 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: Yes, Like, you know, have you ever lived in a 529 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: place where there was a death or someone famous or 530 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: a haunting or something like that? 531 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: Not that I know it, but I've always asked every 532 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: place I go. And you know what's so funny. I 533 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: was just thinking last night about when I moved into 534 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: this place. I asked my landlord, is this place haunted? 535 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: I said, legally I have to ask, yeah, yeah, And 536 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: he was truly weird about He was like, no, what 537 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, how long did the person live 538 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: here before? And he said, oh, like a really long time. 539 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: He's like, all the people that have lived here have 540 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: stayed for a really long time. They love it. 541 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: Oh. 542 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: But what I realized last night was I didn't ever 543 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: ask did the person move out? Oh shit, or is 544 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: this the last place that they were breathing. I don't know. 545 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: The phrase anyone who's ever lived here has stayed for 546 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: a long time is weirdly ominous. 547 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: So back to the story. So when he asked her, 548 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: has anyone ever reported a ghost, she's a little dodgy 549 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: and she's like, what goes? Uh huh? What's that? And 550 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: she does say, well, the last two tenants only stayed 551 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: here for a short time. One of them left their 552 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: belongings and never came back for him, and then another 553 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: one left in the middle of the night, never to 554 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: return again. Wouldn't answer phone calls in anything. She's like, 555 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: but I don't know about a ghost. 556 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: But I don't know about a ghost. 557 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: So he's on the phone with his mom one night 558 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: and the doors are rattling around the house and he's like, 559 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: all right, kids, stop horsing around. And it gets more 560 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: intense and they're like, you know, rattling, bang and whatever, 561 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: and he's like, stop and knock it off. His daughter 562 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: like comes in. She's like, I'm reading my book and 563 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: my two brothers are sleeping. What are you talking about. 564 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: Instantly the temperature drops, he feels the electrical rush back 565 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: in his body and he smells a terrible odor. He 566 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: checks his panties. It's not coming from him. I added that. 567 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: Part, and that's that's a very human thing to do. 568 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: So he hears a screaming of a man and it's 569 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: getting intensely louder and louder. The whole house comes alive. 570 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: Shake it. His daughter is screaming in her room. He 571 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: goes up there and it is locked. He cannot get 572 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: it open. He's trying, he's doing ever. He going to 573 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: bust it open, and he hears some of them coming 574 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: behind him. He finally gets in there. She is literally 575 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 1: in shock. He grabs her, gets the boys. They run outside. 576 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: Everyone's screaming. They're here in the same male screaming coming 577 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: from inside the house. They go into the car and 578 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: they're just like looking at the house and they see 579 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: the dark figure pacing around looking for them. 580 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: Okay, first off, better job ghost. That's a little more 581 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: aggressive and creepy. 582 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Everything else was a dress rehearsal. 583 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Yeah, he was trying out some new material. 584 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: Didn't work. Yeah, went back to the classic stuff because 585 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: that is classically scary as shit. 586 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: Totally. Yeah, He's like, you know this worked the last 587 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: two people. 588 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: That stuff, I'm fucking gone. You got me there, Well, 589 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: you can't live. 590 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: That's unlivable. Now where does it go from there? You 591 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: know it's only going to get worse. They never came back, 592 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: except he did come back to get belongings, and he 593 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: brought people with him, and every time they did, they 594 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: heard a whisper, they heard, you know, all kinds of stuff. 595 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: And again this was in two thousand and four. He 596 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: has since written a book, and apparently his book goes 597 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: into way more detail, like there's a lot more to it. 598 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: Did anyone move in after him? 599 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: It's as if your psychic, the way you ask me 600 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: the questions that I got ready for you. 601 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: Here we go. 602 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: So he says, that's someone he knows. Saw a family 603 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: running out of the house in their Jammy's in the 604 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: middle of the night with the cops driving up. Wow, 605 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: this was in two thousand and four. He also says, 606 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: in two thousand and four, apparently the landlady couldn't get 607 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: anyone to stay there, so she turned it into a 608 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: dog kennel. So that's those poor dogs. That's horrible. 609 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not good. 610 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the scream and the bargain. That is the story 611 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: of the Union Screaming House. 612 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: Hell yeah it is. 613 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: Can I can I show you a haunted doll? 614 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: Oh god, Roz. This is where I have some problems 615 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: with you. And we talked about this last time. Haunted objects, 616 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: haunted mirrors. There's all kinds of haunted objects everywhere, and 617 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: you actively troll eBay at whatever. I don't know where 618 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: you find this ship. 619 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of times it's eba. 620 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the Sarah McLaughlin of haunted dolls. You are 621 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: adopting these fucking things. 622 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: Now I'm not adopting them, I'm just talking about them. 623 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: Maybe it's safe because because this is over zoom, so 624 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: I've got like two levels of separation going on, so 625 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: this should be okay, right. 626 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're fine. Also, stay in your you know, desperation. 627 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: I want to see a ghost. 628 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 2: Oh shit, you're right. Wait wait wait ooh let me 629 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: see this haunted doll. I can't wait. Maybe this spirit 630 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: will jump into me. Yay, let's do it, do it? Okay, good, 631 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: now we're safe, go ahead and do it. 632 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: All right, it's time for a segment I like to 633 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: call the dolls are living. So this doll does not 634 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: have a name. She's got no bids currently twenty dollars, Jieha. 635 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: Could you throw up the doll for us please? 636 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: There we go Ooh well, okay, first off, this is 637 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: clearly made in more modern times. Yes, those weird dark 638 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: circles in the eyes you notice that? 639 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 640 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, like the doll has insomnia. 641 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not good lighting for the doll. 642 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: This one doesn't creep me out as badly as the 643 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 2: one you showed me on my last appearance, because this 644 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: doesn't have that weird antique the near. Yes, a lot 645 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: of these dolls, they are clearly antique. A lot of 646 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: them are handmade. This is clearly polyurethane rubber mass produced. 647 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 648 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: Why do they say this doll is haunted? 649 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: Well, and this doll too, like beautiful eyes, she is 650 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: Joe roganbald. Yeah, but this one allegedly has a demon. 651 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: Oh so this person wrote, I got this doll from 652 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: my friend who didn't know a demon's soul was attached. 653 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: I cleaned up the doll not knowing and ended up 654 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: making her mad. She scratched the shit out of my arm, 655 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: but I made peace with her once I made her 656 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: the dress that she's wearing. I would keep her, but 657 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: she is not getting along with the other spirits in 658 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: my home, and I need peace in the home. She 659 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: seems to be understanding, but she needs respect. If you 660 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: do not show her respect, I'm sure she will become 661 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: your nightmare. So please only take her if you will 662 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: take care of her properly. 663 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 2: I gotta think a demon that chows that doll to 664 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: hop into is not the most powerful or intelligent demon. 665 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: There are creepier dolls that you can haunt. That is 666 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 2: such a generic looking doll. 667 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: Maybe it's the only doll they had. 668 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: Maybe, but that would be like, how can I put this? 669 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 2: That would be like haunting a cheesecake factory? Why, Like 670 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: there are creepy old houses you can jump into. But 671 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: you're right, maybe that's the only thing that this thing 672 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: had available. 673 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: That's a technique, though, you go where you're not expected. 674 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: You know, maybe you'll get more results, maybe you'll scare more. 675 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I also think of it. I've 676 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: made this comparison before. It's sort of like sometimes you 677 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: see a sad video of a hermit crab that's now 678 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: stuck in a seven up can because like that's all 679 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: they had they didn't have a shell anywhere. 680 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: Okay, ask your producer. There is either a picture or 681 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 2: a video of a hermit crab, and all they had 682 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: to use as a shell was a doll's head, like 683 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: a baby doll head. And it is the creepiest goddamn 684 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: thing you've ever seen. Creepy doll, but with crab legs 685 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 2: coming out the bottom. 686 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: How ironic that I just made that comparison? 687 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. 688 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: Gee, do you any chance have that? 689 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 2: Yes? There it is? 690 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Nope, nope. Honestly, it's kind of fabulous. 691 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: It looks like the doll has like a really cool, 692 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: like punk rock hair. Oh yeah, wait a minute, it's 693 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: kind of orange. 694 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I don't hate that. 695 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you look at it like that. It also 696 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of that scene in It, the 697 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: original one where they're like at the Chinese restaurant and 698 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: they have fortune cookies and one of them is like 699 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: a little. 700 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 2: Or that scene in John Carpenter's The Thing where the 701 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 2: shevered head suddenly sprouts legs and antenna and then walks away. 702 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: Yes, well, Patten, can I play you some ghost voices? 703 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, do it? It's time for evp. 704 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: Or e ev pase. All right, Patton, you know how 705 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: this works. I go to TikTok YouTube wherever or people 706 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: can send them to me, and I find electronic voice 707 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: phenomena alleged recordings of ghosts speaking, and I'm going to 708 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: play you two of them. I want you to tell 709 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: me what you think this ghost is saying, and then 710 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: I'll give you some options, the correct answer being what 711 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: the person that posts it believes it's saying. So this 712 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: first one is from Sequaria Underscore Raven on TikTok okay, 713 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: and it's at an abandoned school in Kentuck. Oh boy, 714 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: all right, what is it saying? 715 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 2: Oh? 716 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: That is aggressive? Yeah, it's I'm gonna play it again. 717 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, I'll do it again. It's like, 718 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 2: don't take yourself back, or don't take don't take that 719 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: book back, like it's angry that something is being taken. Oh, 720 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 2: or like the way that someone like is lecturing you. 721 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: Don't you ever do? Like it has that rhythm to it, 722 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 2: Yes it does. 723 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: Well, here's some options. Okay, if that's not what they thought. 724 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: Is it A. I said my name's Matt. Is it B? 725 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: I just said that? C turn up the ther mustat 726 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: or d I was gonna eat that. Okay, here we go. 727 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 2: It's the second one. Yes, I just said that, Yes, 728 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 2: I just said that. 729 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: I hate that tone. 730 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 2: It feels like the idea of that's a ghost or 731 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: that's a spirit that's stuck in a moment, a loop 732 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 2: of pure rage, and they're just going to relive that 733 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 2: moment totally. That's when they exist forever. 734 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: And I'm sure somebody was like, ooh, it's you know, 735 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's cold in here, and then the 736 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: ghost was like, yeah, I just said that. 737 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 2: Right, oh boy. And it sounds young. It sounds like 738 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 2: a pissed off teenager. M imagine being a powdy teenager 739 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 2: for eternity. 740 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: I absolutely know what that's like. So here's another one. 741 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: This is from at two seventy nine to four. Jess 742 00:38:53,920 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: on TikTok. What is it say? It's way more whispered. 743 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hang on one more time, one more time. 744 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: I don't like it because of how's like a It 745 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: reminds me of like the Poulter guy, like when you're 746 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: talking through the TV. It has like that layered thing 747 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: to it. Wait, let me play it again. 748 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 2: It sounds like it's saying exactly, this is. 749 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: Going to be a new thing for the network. 750 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: Exactly right, Oh that should be the. 751 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: Well that's not what they believe. 752 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: Okay, what are the options? 753 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: Is that a oopsie shot? B? Hold on one sec? C? 754 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 2: Who is that? Or D? 755 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: And just like that? Maybe they have a subscription to Max. 756 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's C. Who is that? 757 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: Yes? 758 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? Who is that? Maybe? You know there's that theory 759 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 2: that when we contact ghosts in a way, we're haunting 760 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 2: them because it's someone time and they're hearing a weird voice. 761 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 2: So that's someone in the future with a kind of 762 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 2: Ouiji board or something like, who is that? What was 763 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: that voice? I think that's what's going on. 764 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: I hate it. 765 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 2: Oh, I fucking love this. Well, how is this not 766 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 2: a game show? All right? Anyway? Go ahead? 767 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: Well not an EVP. Just one more quick little thing. 768 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: Oh I just I'll throw out a couple of things. 769 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: And I'm just curious if you have, you know, any 770 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: anything to say about these things. 771 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 2: Oh sure, sure. 772 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: Superstitions. 773 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 2: There's this great phrase superstition brings bad luck. Like in 774 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 2: other words, if you follow a superstition, you are creating 775 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 2: the structure to have, then bad luck hit you because 776 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 2: you can't follow the structures of a superstition forever. In 777 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 2: other words, bad luck doesn't exist until you put the 778 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 2: superstition around it. So it's like when a when a 779 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 2: ballplayer is in a pennant race and the wins the 780 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 2: first game. So it's like, Okay, I'm not changing these socks. 781 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 2: Then the socks create the condition that Okay, well then 782 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 2: if you change the socks, then you're you're destroyed. I 783 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 2: take a reverse view of superstition. If you bring rituals in, 784 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,919 Speaker 2: superstition follows them. 785 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: So do you have superstitions? 786 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 2: I do, and I'd rather not talk about them. No, 787 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 2: you don't have to, but I do have them. 788 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: But so you do believe in that sort of thing, 789 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: and you. 790 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 2: Oh yes, I mean superstition is rubbing shoulders with OCD. 791 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 2: I think it's just another version of it. OCD is 792 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 2: the scientific name we put onto superstition, and a lot 793 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 2: of superstition is about It's like when you don't tell 794 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 2: anyone your mantra if you meditate. So I just I 795 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 2: feel like if I reveal what the superstition is, then 796 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 2: that gives bad luck free range to do whatever the 797 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 2: fuck it wants. It makes the It makes the rituals powerless. 798 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: Which is a superstition in itself. 799 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 2: Which is an another fucking super goddamn it. 800 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: Raz You're right, yeah, fuck if I'm up for a 801 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: job or something, I'm like, you can't tell anyone, it'll 802 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: ruin it or whatever. 803 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't want to jinx it to you. Hang out. 804 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 2: You also have superstitious structures and rituals. 805 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: Filled filled to the brim with superstitions. And there's certain 806 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: things like before I go on stage, like I just 807 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: gotta I always have to do it. Oh yeah, but 808 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: I try not to do like something where like my 809 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: lucky underwear or whatever. I try not to do like 810 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: that kind of a thing because like what if I 811 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: didn't have it, Oh my god, like then I'll panic exactly. 812 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,479 Speaker 1: So it's more like mental things or like little things 813 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: that I can do, or like not saying certain things 814 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: like that I'm up for a job or whatever. Like 815 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: it's more like that. 816 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to do with any object that you 817 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 2: have to have with you, because that leads to disaster. 818 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 2: I feel like an object always gets forgotten. 819 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: That's the thing. 820 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 2: Uh. 821 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 1: Oh, I do have a Lucky Ring. Oh really Yeah, 822 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: but I like to tell my because I know that 823 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: thing that you had said, and I like to think 824 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: if I don't have it, I still I still have 825 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 1: whatever the power within me. Yeah. Wait, so I saw 826 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: you went to Stonehenge. Do you have any paranormal theories 827 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: about that? 828 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 2: My god, there are so many paranormal theories about Stonehenge 829 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 2: that it is a weird much like the Pyramids. It's 830 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 2: a power focusing point. I guess. Other people say that 831 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 2: it has to do with how they told time or 832 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 2: the sun. Again, I don't know enough about it. I 833 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 2: do know we had just missed the winter solstice. We 834 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 2: were there. It was after Christmas that we went there, 835 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 2: and our tour guy was like, yeah, if you'd been 836 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 2: here on the twenty first, every it is. This is 837 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 2: the biggest freak magnet on the planet. They come from 838 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:57,720 Speaker 2: miles around and you just missed it. No, No, I'm sorry, 839 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 2: that's wrong. We were there on the twentieth and we 840 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 2: could see all of the camper vans and caravans were 841 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 2: lining up, and our tour guy was like, if you 842 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 2: stayed another day tomorrow, it gets insane out here for 843 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 2: the spring and autumn. Equinox and the summer and winter 844 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 2: solstice that's when Stonehenge goes nuts. 845 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: I want to do that. That sos fun. 846 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know enough about Stonehenge and lay 847 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 2: lines and all that stuff, but I do know that 848 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 2: it was its significant pagan And again, you got to 849 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 2: watch that documentary. I think it's called Woodland's Dark and 850 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 2: Days Bewitched. 851 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: Yes, but did you feel a vibe? 852 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 2: No? Because I was so jet lagged, and so I 853 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 2: think that's what kept me off of any kind of vibe. 854 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 2: I have felt weird vibes places. Again, never been haunted, 855 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 2: but I've been places where I'm like, clearly, something fucked 856 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,439 Speaker 2: up has happened here. Like I got a background tour 857 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 2: of Alcatraz once and I was like, this is like bad. 858 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 2: The architecture itself is designed to affect you men to 859 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 2: lee and physically totally. And whoever designed Alcatraz was a sadist. 860 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: I was just thinking, like it would be such an 861 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: interesting study or whatever to like be blindfolded and put 862 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 1: in a place and knowing it's Alcatraz or knowing whatever. 863 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure that effects, right, But I wonder, you know, 864 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: just going to a place if any of us can 865 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: be like, it feels like something bad happened here. You know, 866 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: I don't. 867 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, We've all been places where there like, okay, something 868 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 2: shitty went down here. 869 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: Oh totally. There's certain places I've performed sometimes where I'm like, 870 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 1: what is this vibe? 871 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 2: I'm actually about to go down to San Diego for 872 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,479 Speaker 2: the Comic Con later this month, and there's a big 873 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 2: hotel there called the Hotel Coronado, which you will famously 874 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 2: remember from Some Like It hot It's where Joey Brown 875 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 2: and all of Joey Ross and all of the bachelors 876 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 2: are waiting to hook up with young women. 877 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: Oh, I know all about it. 878 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 2: And the Coronado is supposed to be crazy haunted, and 879 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 2: people who never had ghost encounters still go there and go, oh, 880 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,320 Speaker 2: there's a vibe something went down there. 881 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: You know what. One time, this was in my early twenties, 882 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: I was dating an older gentleman and he was like, 883 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: I got the weekend free. We could go anywhere where 884 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: do you want to go? And I was like, Hotel 885 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: the Cornett. 886 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 2: Yep. 887 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: We went and there was no ghosts, but there is 888 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: a room that is like the haunted Room. The woman 889 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: that haunts the place. I want to say. Her name 890 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: is Kate Morgan. I think it was her name. Anyway, 891 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: maybe you can request to go into the room something 892 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,479 Speaker 1: for some content so you can come back. 893 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 2: You got to start taking this on the road and 894 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 2: do like live shows or like a live broadcast. 895 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: Don't you worry it's all in the plane. 896 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,439 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well what about you? 897 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: That's about it. But what's going on with you? What 898 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 1: do you want people to know? 899 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 2: It's already been out a month. My new trade paper 900 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 2: are Back Minor Threats, collecting the first four issues of 901 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 2: my dark Horse comic. Minor Threats, is available in comic 902 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 2: bookstores and bookstores. I hope you buy it at a 903 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 2: comic bookstore or bookstore. If you got to buy it online, 904 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 2: go to bookshop dot org. And then in about a 905 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,320 Speaker 2: month from now, I'll be announcing my fall tour, new dates, 906 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 2: new cities, so stay tuned for that. oOoOO yeah, it's 907 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 2: all coming. 908 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 1: This is amazing. Thank you so much, Patten Roz. 909 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 2: As always, this is fascinating, horrifying, very uncomfortable. Please have 910 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 2: me back in a few months. 911 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: I would want nothing more. Thank you so much. To 912 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: Baton Oswald. I hope to have more conversations with him 913 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: and all kinds of guests very soon. Next week. I 914 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: will be back. You know what I like. I always 915 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: appreciate when people send me that they heard some celebrity 916 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 1: talked about their ghost experience or someone that they like. 917 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,879 Speaker 1: I like suggestions. I like you know, people go, hey, 918 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: have you ever talked to this person or that person? 919 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: I love that kind of stuff. Funny people, cool people, 920 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 1: you get the vibe. You see what it is. If 921 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: you have any of those, you know, send it to 922 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,879 Speaker 1: my Gmail or tag me on Instagram or something like that. 923 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: You know how to find me. All right, I'll be 924 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 1: back next week. I love you all, both living and dead. 925 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't 926 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: haunt me. Hey By, this has been an exactly right production. 927 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I 928 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you, 929 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,280 Speaker 1: so email me at ghosted by Raz at gmail dot com. 930 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 1: You can send a DM or voice message to the 931 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 1: show's instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow 932 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at 933 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. 934 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer 935 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 1: is the alarming Alex Chief. This episode was mixed and 936 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 1: sound designed by the eery Edson Choi. My guest booker 937 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the 938 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crighton. My theme music is by 939 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky 940 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced 941 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: by the chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia hart Stark, 942 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: and the frightening Danielle Kramer