Speaker 1: R and B Money.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 1: Thank you take about the child.
Speaker 3: We are the authority on all.
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Speaker 1: Tank and this he left and already.
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Speaker 1: B talk about.
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, Wow, here she's here. She you know, she
Speaker 3: don't she don't be doing a whole lot for everybody,
Speaker 3: not for everybody, but she pulled up on the family.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, this is this is this
Speaker 3: is our loved one. I mean, she's she's just special
Speaker 3: to me for so many.
Speaker 1: Reasons outside of music.
Speaker 3: You'll get to some of that too, But she's a singer,
Speaker 3: a real one. Stomp down, black foot, flat foot, that's
Speaker 3: what case?
Speaker 1: What what y'all were you wanting? In? Whatever one? Whatever
Speaker 1: one you want, y'all makes a noise because how you
Speaker 1: want it? How do you feel?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 1: Brother? You pulled up you know, brother, put.
Speaker 3: Up full glamor on us, Like I'm trying to understand
Speaker 3: you trying to do for this is a real.
Speaker 1: Ain't too many people pulling off the kneon?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I want to do something different.
Speaker 1: It looks good on you on your complexion, really looks cooking.
Speaker 5: Blessed. Yeah, I'm blessed. I'm in a good place.
Speaker 2: Come on in, brother, yea, yeah, just turn that, Just
Speaker 2: turn that though, because them niggas don't pay us, don't give.
Speaker 1: Don't you can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't put this off camera to your name
Speaker 3: party pod.
Speaker 5: So it's a clean pot to.
Speaker 6: I mean sometimes we get to it.
Speaker 1: No, talk your ship with y'all.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna do that for me then, and you're gonna
Speaker 6: get that for you.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, said listen, you won't sound.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm clean.
Speaker 3: I'm clean today, clean today, I'm with you. No, that's
Speaker 3: you know, that's that's what you do. Right then you
Speaker 3: get that brown going. It's gonna it's don't get this.
Speaker 1: It's don't get an aggressive interview. It's don't get aggressive.
Speaker 5: All right, come on and show up.
Speaker 1: I like that. You got you gotta on the beverage.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't know what you're doing. You don't
Speaker 1: know what you have got yourself into.
Speaker 4: I'm ready.
Speaker 7: I can't wait to see. I can't wait to see.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see. Let's get to it.
Speaker 3: Okay, First of all, we've been doing this. We've been
Speaker 3: doing this for a long time. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. We've been on We've been on a lot
Speaker 3: of stages together.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We've been We've been a lot of houses together, We've
Speaker 3: been everywhere together, and and and just to say before
Speaker 3: we get into anything, I'm super proud of you. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, because you know, none of this
Speaker 3: is promised, you know what I'm saying. And along with
Speaker 3: the hard work that goes into it, there are also
Speaker 3: hardships and setbacks and things that we go through from
Speaker 3: a business standpoint and a personal standpoint. And you've been
Speaker 3: you know, you've been very, very extremely transparent, which I
Speaker 3: would also like to get into just about the things
Speaker 3: that you go through in an attempt to encourage people
Speaker 3: to just keep on going, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: no matter what it is. So you know you you're
Speaker 3: still here doing big business and not just in music,
Speaker 3: but all over, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So first, we're proud of you, and we appreciate you,
Speaker 1: and we love.
Speaker 5: You, thank you so much, and we support you.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And you know we need to get
Speaker 3: some food that you're established.
Speaker 1: We'll get whatever the specials is special whatever like we do.
Speaker 3: Ok we like to do we like to start at
Speaker 3: the beginning, Okay, and we like to start where it
Speaker 3: wasn't even you you, you didn't even know what the
Speaker 3: music business was. Somebody, somebody just knew that that that
Speaker 3: good right there can sign downside that.
Speaker 1: Good right today?
Speaker 3: Yes, Memphis, somebody's Baptist church to somebody's.
Speaker 1: Convention. You know what I'm saying. That girl, whoever, whoever, all.
Speaker 5: That is and that's what happened.
Speaker 3: Okay, come on, give me, give me the identification of
Speaker 3: I got it or she got it? When did that happen?
Speaker 5: Dancy Hayes Ai Hayes wife.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold okay, we getting right to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah you popping off already.
Speaker 6: Yeah you heard her.
Speaker 7: Dancy Hayes went to my church and I would always
Speaker 7: sing at church, and she would tell my mama she
Speaker 7: need to be in the music business. My mom say, no,
Speaker 7: she's not. We ain't doing that. This girl going to college.
Speaker 7: It's not what we're playing, which is not what we're playing.
Speaker 7: And I was singing. I would look for her every
Speaker 7: Sunday before I sing because I didn't know anything about
Speaker 7: how to be famous or anything.
Speaker 5: I didn't. I was that young.
Speaker 7: I didn't even know Isaac Hayes. That made me like
Speaker 7: listen to his music and say, oh my god.
Speaker 8: And I would.
Speaker 7: She had this like like copper like hair or whatever,
Speaker 7: and I'd be looking for her when I would be
Speaker 7: singing at church because I want her to make me famous.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so that's how it started. And my mom
Speaker 5: just realized she loved it.
Speaker 7: She loved music. So she took me to Bob Westbrook. Hey,
Speaker 7: God rest his soul. He trained justin Timberlake. He trained
Speaker 7: Britney Spears, yeah, a lot of the Miss Americas things
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 5: And he was in Tennessee.
Speaker 7: So my mama took me to him and he said, well,
Speaker 7: who's our favorite singer And my mom was like, Whitney Houston.
Speaker 7: And he was like, I know, you know, like big voice,
Speaker 7: but I want to teach you how to yodel.
Speaker 5: And my mama was like, what.
Speaker 7: Are you talking about yodel? Like, we don't know nothing
Speaker 7: about that. We telling the seat know about that. He said,
Speaker 7: no offense if you let me talk to you, ma'am.
Speaker 7: They're gonna see this little black girl with this big
Speaker 7: voice and they're gonna expect for her to sing at
Speaker 7: the talent shows Whitney, Houston.
Speaker 5: So can I.
Speaker 7: Please teach you how to Yoda and teach to different things?
Speaker 7: And that's when the real like training and different things
Speaker 7: music came.
Speaker 6: How old are you at this point?
Speaker 5: I was still like ten?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 1: He said, let me teach her how to yoda?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 6: And had you even heard anyone?
Speaker 5: I know anything about that? I just know I love
Speaker 5: we in Houston.
Speaker 1: He was like, this is so far from Whitney, Houston. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was like, why are we doing this? I I
Speaker 7: just remember my mom. But I love music, so I
Speaker 7: ain't fight too much. I just know I ain't want
Speaker 7: to do gymnastics.
Speaker 5: I ain't had it.
Speaker 6: What how did we go through?
Speaker 7: Yoderlan was horrible, like hard boys, gym nasty, these little
Speaker 7: knock mes.
Speaker 5: I was secretary legs.
Speaker 7: It was just not watch secretary legs got secretary.
Speaker 3: They're supposed to be behind the desk.
Speaker 7: Her legs, and they said she's not going to be
Speaker 7: a gymnist.
Speaker 5: So they put me in voice and all of that.
Speaker 5: I play.
Speaker 7: You know, I can read music, so I played piano
Speaker 7: for nine years, read music. They were very big into music.
Speaker 7: For me, and I started to really love just like
Speaker 7: country music. And I remember watching Oprah and the Judge
Speaker 7: was yeah, and I knew every Christmas I would get
Speaker 7: a cassette tape and I remember watching the Judge and
Speaker 7: I was so infatuated and I said, Mama, I want
Speaker 7: the Judge.
Speaker 5: That's the tape I want. They was like, Okay, we
Speaker 5: get it.
Speaker 7: So I knew every Love Can Build a Bridge record,
Speaker 7: So do y'all know right now? I just once God
Speaker 7: rest her soul. Naomi just passed like last year, and
Speaker 7: her people who did all Love Can Build a Bridge,
Speaker 7: they reached out to me. I am I for her
Speaker 7: tribute album that actual song I'm singing, Love Can Build
Speaker 7: a Bridge with Jelly Roll Yeah, and it's coming out
Speaker 7: and it's like full circle, like people can count you out,
Speaker 7: people can look over you like I love the Judge.
Speaker 7: All of my R and B fans bring me Judge stuff.
Speaker 7: I never got to meet meet her anything, but I
Speaker 7: know every song with the Judge. So when she died,
Speaker 7: I was like, oh my god, I never got to
Speaker 7: meet her, and so I tweeted that and so the
Speaker 7: original producers who found them everything, Thank God. I just
Speaker 7: like a couple of months ago, got to get in
Speaker 7: the studio with them. I was nervous, but I got
Speaker 7: to sing love can build a Bridge and tribute her
Speaker 7: and it's about to come out.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's amazing.
Speaker 3: Congratulations on that.
Speaker 6: That's huge.
Speaker 7: So that's how I just kind of started liking and
Speaker 7: loving that type of music.
Speaker 3: So do you you're talking about ten years old? At
Speaker 3: any point out there? Are there talent shows? And is
Speaker 3: there the high school I want today is popular ship Michelle?
Speaker 2: So there's no one out there that can be like,
Speaker 2: you know what, Yeah, I may not sing no more,
Speaker 2: but you know that came Michelle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I won.
Speaker 6: They can't get that off.
Speaker 5: I won. I did.
Speaker 7: And I used to do Miss America preliminaries, and I
Speaker 7: used to Miss America preliminaries and I remember my butt
Speaker 7: was big then and then they would like wrap my
Speaker 7: mom and then wrap my butt up for the swim
Speaker 7: suit competitions, like to push it in.
Speaker 3: You can't have a lot of ass America. You know
Speaker 3: it had to controled environment. Yeah, y, not about ass.
Speaker 6: It's not Miss mephis what you.
Speaker 1: Basically that's that's the one I'm trying.
Speaker 3: To we need to go to the benefits preliminary. That's
Speaker 3: where it sat this black away this week. And you
Speaker 3: know there's a god somewhere they can take the picture.
Speaker 1: Only God.
Speaker 5: I care about this stuff already A.
Speaker 1: Pageant girl, Wow, girl, you've been a show off.
Speaker 6: That makes sense. You know it makes sense.
Speaker 1: You finishing girl, show off?
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I didn't really love it, but yeah, and
Speaker 7: I just was saying and saying. Then it was time
Speaker 7: for college, so I went and I went to I
Speaker 7: went to do my scholarship at Florida and University.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, let's let's let's talk about scholarship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, scholarship.
Speaker 2: Wait, you get scholarships for yodling?
Speaker 7: Florida A and M University's honored me. Uh huh, I
Speaker 7: got a yoling scholarship.
Speaker 5: You do, I'm doing it on this album.
Speaker 1: I've never heard you yodel.
Speaker 5: No one have, and I always have held it.
Speaker 1: Are you going to yodel today on my album? Today?
Speaker 1: We get yoda?
Speaker 5: No, You're gonna hit on this album.
Speaker 7: Every interview I've known for years, everybody have asked me yoda.
Speaker 7: And then the people in college be like, yeah, that
Speaker 7: was crazy.
Speaker 3: They was They wasn't your brothers. Though it's fine. No, No,
Speaker 3: it's coming, Jay, It's coming. When I started playing this
Speaker 3: piano brown, let's get back to this though. Scholars scholarship
Speaker 3: for yodling.
Speaker 5: To Florida A and M University and that's a music And.
Speaker 7: I did that and I went in there and sang
Speaker 7: and told the same country they had. They didn't know
Speaker 7: what they was shocked. And I say, you know, I
Speaker 7: say my gospel songs. I sang all of that. I
Speaker 7: did like ave Maria. You know, that was like the
Speaker 7: basic song. You got to sing a Maria for a scholarship,
Speaker 7: you know. So I went there and they gave me scholarship.
Speaker 7: I won Miss Freshman my first year and Fam You,
Speaker 7: and then I was in the show Quiet and did
Speaker 7: all of that and Fam You and then I want
Speaker 7: Miss fam You.
Speaker 6: You're still doing your passion stuff there too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I would do likes and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: You have to wrap up your.
Speaker 3: Yam you, you know, let her be her man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I think that's why I got to really
Speaker 5: just not got to be me. It wasn't like to
Speaker 5: fit into anything.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like it's miss fam You today.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, he said, you.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, I bleed on your gree Yeah, yeah, that's what.
Speaker 5: That's what it is.
Speaker 6: Went there and did I want to say.
Speaker 7: He used to sleep in my doorm? What we talked
Speaker 7: about that all the time. He dated my roommate. And
Speaker 7: I tried to drop out of school because Rico love
Speaker 7: and my parents went crazy, what do you do? Because
Speaker 7: I wanted to be a star, and he told me
Speaker 7: to drop out of school with him.
Speaker 1: He's coming with me, coming with me.
Speaker 5: I can't introduce me to his manners all of this,
Speaker 5: and I was like, I'm going, I am.
Speaker 7: We used to sit on the bench before going into
Speaker 7: the math class and all of that, and then I
Speaker 7: know one day he ain't come back and I looked
Speaker 7: up and he was like on Ush's cribs, And I
Speaker 7: was so pissed in my parents mad.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: I should have went with Yeah, and it's my other
Speaker 2: artist right here.
Speaker 7: I could not believe it because we we would be
Speaker 7: around it. So all we talked about. All we talked
Speaker 7: about was music. Yeah, like music, that's all we wanted
Speaker 7: to do.
Speaker 6: At fail you So did you finish?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I finished?
Speaker 1: You know what that come on here?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I didn't finish. I didn't go. So I got a
Speaker 1: full scholarship to Morgan State.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, sing yes, okay.
Speaker 1: The doctor Carter now got rest his soul.
Speaker 3: And after about like two months, it was just like
Speaker 3: you want you want me turned in my math homework.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I was feeling.
Speaker 1: You want me to English?
Speaker 6: Would you get your degree.
Speaker 7: In psycho psychology? And I had a music minor? And
Speaker 7: then I got a law school. Yeah, I got three
Speaker 7: law schools.
Speaker 6: What you got into? Three law schools and.
Speaker 5: Three law schools?
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, y'all looking at me.
Speaker 3: It's amazing. It's that's amazing. I didn't discovery for us
Speaker 3: like we know you for years.
Speaker 5: But about it for years. Media don't ever they want
Speaker 5: to do one.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. They don't want to highlight that point.
Speaker 5: But I gonna need somebody to go off.
Speaker 7: They never that's never been a thing like I got
Speaker 7: the Distinguished Alumni Ward from FAM you and all.
Speaker 5: Of that, you know that type of thing.
Speaker 7: I pledged Delta Sigma Delta, I did all of to
Speaker 7: day and they never want to focus on that, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: So, yeah, I graduated. I graduated. I had my son
Speaker 7: in college. I graduated with twenty one credit hours and
Speaker 7: two incompletes with a brand new baby still in four years.
Speaker 1: Oh you got busy, you got busy. We're celebrating that
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacob, make that one of the highlight post got
Speaker 2: highlight posts.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's incredible.
Speaker 5: I did that. And in that time, it was a
Speaker 5: lot of distractions.
Speaker 7: Like not Rica wasn't a distraction, but it was let
Speaker 7: me know, you know, I wanted to do music. Then
Speaker 7: I said I was gonna run away to Broadway and
Speaker 7: my mom was like, well, you're gonna lead his car.
Speaker 5: You're gonna lead his car.
Speaker 7: You're going to Broadway, walk, gonna walk, You're gonna pay
Speaker 7: your own bills. My daddy is a college professor, and
Speaker 7: my daddy is the Morning on Black Kids.
Speaker 5: She teaches history. My dadd college professor.
Speaker 6: So he was living in the house with educated.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's My mother was miss Laying college. She was
Speaker 7: her college queen.
Speaker 6: So they weren't playing with you.
Speaker 3: They My grandmother was the dean in the school, teacher superintendent.
Speaker 5: She was all that was not playing.
Speaker 3: It was not playing at the church. Dean of the
Speaker 3: National Baptist Congress and I don't none of that.
Speaker 1: None of that.
Speaker 13: My family, man, we saw so much dope. Man, that.
Speaker 1: Makes sense, make.
Speaker 7: Sense because even in that like I'm still from Memphis,
Speaker 7: of course, and.
Speaker 5: You know I always it's so crazy.
Speaker 7: Do y'all like see people now, like y'all see like
Speaker 7: young men and stuff like that, they want to be
Speaker 7: gangst so bad, like you know, they won't Like I
Speaker 7: was always super rough, I would like super rebelled.
Speaker 5: They wanted me like my family would call me Hillary.
Speaker 7: Banks my mom's side, and I would be so angry.
Speaker 5: So I would go hang out.
Speaker 7: I want to hang out in the hood, and I
Speaker 7: would get in trouble and do.
Speaker 6: Stuff you the girl that would get us to rent
Speaker 6: a car.
Speaker 7: Yeah, stuff like that, Yeah, coming down here to get it. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just get in trouble on your own. You didn't
Speaker 5: even have to do what you just did.
Speaker 1: Girl.
Speaker 5: Yes, And that's why I choked.
Speaker 7: Too.
Speaker 5: I do all of it.
Speaker 7: And that's why I showed, yeah to hang with like,
Speaker 7: and I chose because my dad was my family and
Speaker 7: I'm wanted to go to this side of the family.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I would not take that back because all the ship
Speaker 7: that I did, and that was with my cousins, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And that's how only wanted to be with my cousin.
Speaker 7: I didn't want to be with the pageant girls though,
Speaker 7: without Memphis white Haven. Yeah, that's why I went to
Speaker 7: school and haven View. We called it black Haven, but
Speaker 7: it was called white Haven.
Speaker 6: We call it black Yeah.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I'm very Memphis. And my daddy always would
Speaker 7: be like, that's my son. I never had that girl,
Speaker 7: that's my son's son.
Speaker 1: So you was definitely gave them here.
Speaker 5: Yeah I did a little bit.
Speaker 6: She's fresh out of college, new baby.
Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, yep.
Speaker 6: Where is your mindset at this point?
Speaker 7: Because they kept telling me my life was over, Like
Speaker 7: you know, you got me fucked up? My life ain't over.
Speaker 7: So my mom was really big and FedEx. If you're
Speaker 7: from Memphis and you get a corporate job, you work
Speaker 7: at FedEx. That's all Memphis head corporate. So soon as
Speaker 7: I got out, I got in law school. I didn't
Speaker 7: want to be a lawyer. My parents like about to
Speaker 7: like write me off, girl, if you're gonna be a
Speaker 7: lost I want to.
Speaker 5: Be a singer, and they was like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 6: No, any other singers in your family.
Speaker 7: My granddaddy sing and my on my daddy's side, my
Speaker 7: my grandmother used to raise bb King and listen to Mississippi.
Speaker 5: I talked about that.
Speaker 7: When he walked with his guitar and waywod and listen
Speaker 7: to Mississippi. All the stores is my last name, paid
Speaker 7: paid stores. He would play with my uncles and all
Speaker 7: of that.
Speaker 5: All the families could sing, all my grandparents could sing.
Speaker 5: But it always skipped.
Speaker 7: It skipped my mama and my daddy, but my granddaddy,
Speaker 7: My grandmama sang.
Speaker 5: In the church until she just never was sick.
Speaker 7: Just fell out making Sunday breakfast and just fell out
Speaker 7: on the floor. But she gonna go to church and sing.
Speaker 7: My granddaddy just passed. My best friend ninety two sang.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he lived it.
Speaker 2: He lived he and he got a chance to see
Speaker 2: you because he loved me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Bought I put on my page. I bought my granddaddy.
Speaker 7: So many people be taking money and doing stuff from you.
Speaker 5: I bought my.
Speaker 7: Granddaddy a car, a truck. It wasn't nothing like you know,
Speaker 7: like it was like six thousand dollars. That was the
Speaker 7: best one I ever spent in my entire career. He
Speaker 7: was so happy I got it's on my page.
Speaker 5: He was crying. He was just so proud of me.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, that's amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So they telling you it's over and and what are
Speaker 3: your movements from there? Because you can say, you know,
Speaker 3: where do you go from there? Where do you go
Speaker 3: back to Memphis?
Speaker 7: I went back to me because I had FedEx. My
Speaker 7: mama was you know, my mother was like miss Laying College.
Speaker 7: She had her master's degree and she had connects and FedEx.
Speaker 6: Oh you want to go work with FedEx?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I went to go.
Speaker 7: If you ain't gonna go to law school, girl, we're
Speaker 7: gonna do this. So I went over to FedEx and
Speaker 7: it was so crazy. My Space was poppering, Oh my god.
Speaker 6: To eight though, yeah, ended up growing to top eight. Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 7: Like music, I was like right, and I remember I
Speaker 7: was at working FedEx and Mace the wrapp Up he
Speaker 7: started a label. And you know how you have people
Speaker 7: in your top five. Some dude from Memphis had me
Speaker 7: in his top five. I ain't never meet him, don't
Speaker 7: know nothing about him. So he had hit Mace, Like, yo,
Speaker 7: how could I be on your record label. And Mace
Speaker 7: was like, I don't know about you, but that girl
Speaker 7: can be on my record label. So I get this
Speaker 7: random message and he was like, Mace is trying to
Speaker 7: get to you. And I was like, no, he's not.
Speaker 7: Don't know this dude, Yeah, I don't even know him.
Speaker 7: And so I pick up the phone and I.
Speaker 5: Was like, yeah, this nigga talks just like Mace. I no, no,
Speaker 5: better tell it like Mace. It would sound slow as fuck.
Speaker 5: And I was like this, you know, like, I'm like, think.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of town? Yes, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: That's what he was saying.
Speaker 1: I just feel like you can really be something if
Speaker 1: you put your mind to it.
Speaker 4: Yes, And that's what happened.
Speaker 5: It's maze.
Speaker 7: And I had already I had made friends with a
Speaker 7: lady named Erica Wright and she Johnny Wright's wife.
Speaker 5: And for those who don't, you.
Speaker 7: Got all times that boy, yes, like what like in
Speaker 7: sync everybody, John's Bros, Everything, Jenny Jackson, He's done everybody.
Speaker 7: So his wife took to me and I called her
Speaker 7: and said, this man said he mayce. I left my
Speaker 7: corporate job and I moved to Atlanta at the less
Speaker 7: than forty eight hours, and I said, I'm out.
Speaker 5: She talked to Mace, and then Mace moving to Atlanta.
Speaker 7: Oh okay, So now I'm in an a and I'm
Speaker 7: doing music. Rico comes back around, because you know, Rico
Speaker 7: ends up being.
Speaker 5: A part of the whole Mace ship. Yeah, all of this.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, oh my god, Rico's here.
Speaker 7: So we're doing this music and people this fight, you
Speaker 7: know here pastor.
Speaker 5: So my mom like, I don't know what type of
Speaker 5: pastor this see is? Man? Yeah, he pastor. He pastor
Speaker 5: mats my little Mace.
Speaker 7: And then I had went home and it was like
Speaker 7: a club, and then Antonio Tarvora was in there and
Speaker 7: he was like trying to talk to me, and I
Speaker 7: tell Antonio Tarva I'm like, I don't want to talk
Speaker 7: to you, but I'm over here with Mace. I'm trying
Speaker 7: to be famous. I want to do this or whatever.
Speaker 7: So he like, oh, I'm gonna put the money, okay,
Speaker 7: the investment, Okay.
Speaker 5: I don't put the money, let me holler.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So then Mace was like, so he was so intrigued
Speaker 7: with you know, with Tarboro.
Speaker 5: So I'm fine, I'm I'm good on both ends. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. And then one day May tried
Speaker 5: to sleep with me, and then Taboro tried to be
Speaker 5: his ass. Take a sip, drink, yeah, and then Tabora
Speaker 5: tried to be his ass. And this ain't nothing new.
Speaker 7: This spend when I first time I told my store
Speaker 7: of me in May school, you know, laughing about it.
Speaker 7: So it's not nothing I'm telling new or putting nobody
Speaker 7: on blast.
Speaker 5: Like what we talked.
Speaker 7: So then he had a record that was crazy, and
Speaker 7: then he Mace was trying to charge Tarboro for the record.
Speaker 7: Tarb was like, you finna get my girl away from you.
Speaker 5: You I'm gonna come beat your ass. It was just
Speaker 5: all of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So then that's when I stopped doing music with Mace
Speaker 7: because then that's when Taba was like, no.
Speaker 5: You're coming with me.
Speaker 4: And he had the money yeah, and y'all love him.
Speaker 6: So a whole lot of money.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 7: And then I just remember girls was trying to like
Speaker 7: run me out the road and cars and stuff when I,
Speaker 7: you know, got there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were you weren't messing with Tarboro.
Speaker 5: Now I was messing with I wasn't messing with.
Speaker 1: May, okay, So eventually.
Speaker 5: So when Tarma said, now you gotta go.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'm gonna just fund out a career around
Speaker 7: the you know, Mace, I'm just gonna pay for everything.
Speaker 5: So then.
Speaker 3: Shout out to pick up the tab Tarboro, come on,
Speaker 3: now picking up.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. When you like somebody, you pick.
Speaker 5: Up the okay as you do.
Speaker 7: So he believed he you know, he ain't know nothing
Speaker 7: about music. You know how athletes always want to do music.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, they don't have a clue, but they
Speaker 7: always want to do music. But money's been the same.
Speaker 7: So I'm going through this, but I'm really getting kind
Speaker 7: of off of music because now I'm liking a guy
Speaker 7: and all these women and all of this type of
Speaker 7: stuff going on.
Speaker 5: So I remember this. I will never forget this.
Speaker 7: This is one of the most pivotal moments of my career.
Speaker 7: He tells me, oh my god, I got you a
Speaker 7: record deal. I'm like, oh, I got a record deal.
Speaker 7: And I thought I was being smart because I was
Speaker 7: a college you know, I was.
Speaker 5: A college girl.
Speaker 7: I'm like, all the money, the personal money you put
Speaker 7: this here, but the industry money you put this here.
Speaker 5: I thought I was up on it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you put my business money in here. Y'all remember
Speaker 7: Cap from Sea Sick? Yes, Cap was the manager. Yes,
Speaker 7: so you're gonna put this here and then all any
Speaker 7: money for a person, anything going on, just go here.
Speaker 7: So I'm excited at all. Start we come up, and
Speaker 7: then all my friends say, can you ask can you
Speaker 7: ask Antonio kids Tarbor? Can we get rooms and all
Speaker 7: that type of stuff? And I was like, yeah, I can.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I'm yeah my friends, so I'm ready. Yeah, I'm ready.
Speaker 7: We got the chair, We're at there and then he
Speaker 7: say he told me I couldn't go. He said, no,
Speaker 7: you can't go, And I said, well why I can't go?
Speaker 5: He said, because you need to focus on your showcase
Speaker 5: for the label.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Focus, Like okay, yeah, I got I had a focus,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. And so I just remember
Speaker 7: All Star came. I remember I had this meeting with
Speaker 7: Kevin Black.
Speaker 6: Ben on Black Legendary.
Speaker 7: I'm just I don't care about an All Star because
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be a star.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be a star.
Speaker 7: And so All Star came in and Miss my Allsar
Speaker 7: came in in my meeting was like a couple of
Speaker 7: days later, and so all I know is that it
Speaker 7: was starting to circulate.
Speaker 5: I know, I got a text mess.
Speaker 7: Is from him, like in the middle of night, I
Speaker 7: will always love you, And then it started to circulate.
Speaker 7: So cap called me instead Antonio got married. I said,
Speaker 7: got married. I said, what you talk about?
Speaker 5: He was like, I don't know. Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 7: You know, Tava got married. I all start weekend. Got married,
Speaker 7: I'll star weekend. And I said, okay, but what're my showcase?
Speaker 7: And this ain't real. He ain't that crazy? Like he crazy,
Speaker 7: He ain't that crazy.
Speaker 5: It's so got married.
Speaker 7: I'll start weekend and I'm getting prepared, like in his house,
Speaker 7: literally getting prepared to go do my showcase. I'm like,
Speaker 7: I'm going to focus. And he's meeting me. Of course
Speaker 7: at the showcase. I can't get him on the phone
Speaker 7: for like three days, but I'm like, no, my showcase
Speaker 7: is still alone. It's an explanation, you know, I'm just young, dumb.
Speaker 7: It's an explanation for everything. And I end up getting
Speaker 7: ready to leave Capricia. I said, your meeting being canceled,
Speaker 7: and I said, no, the fuck, my meaning not canceled.
Speaker 5: And I called.
Speaker 7: I said, if you don't give me the number who
Speaker 7: canceled the meeting? You fired, Cap, You're fired.
Speaker 5: Give me the meat, Give me the number.
Speaker 4: I call the girl.
Speaker 7: She booho and crying, talking back, Oh my god, oh
Speaker 7: I cancer your mean because he got married.
Speaker 4: I said.
Speaker 5: He didn't marry me, I said, and it was Kevin
Speaker 5: Black's assistant.
Speaker 3: She canceling the meeting because okay, putting three and four together.
Speaker 5: So she canceled the meeting.
Speaker 1: You messing with her too?
Speaker 7: Yeah, she said, I just had an abortion by him
Speaker 7: last week. And I'm like, I got a son to
Speaker 7: take care of, Like, I don't know nothing about this.
Speaker 7: I got a son to take care and you my
Speaker 7: music is good?
Speaker 5: She was like, yes, it is.
Speaker 7: So we get to be cool because I'm like, no,
Speaker 7: you're gonna give me my me. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: You gonna give you what I mean. Let me tell
Speaker 7: you something. I'll walk into that meeting. I still have
Speaker 7: not seen this man.
Speaker 6: Cap.
Speaker 5: Is there, y'all? Remember Donald Woodard?
Speaker 7: Yes, Donald Wooded was there?
Speaker 5: We walking to this meeting. Donald Wooded was there. I'm
Speaker 5: thinking he had got me a high profile lawyer. He's
Speaker 5: the lawyer. Dah da, dah We walk in.
Speaker 7: I go in, and Tony or Purpose and say, yeah,
Speaker 7: they're gonna sign on the spot.
Speaker 5: So we need Donald Woodard to go. So we Donald.
Speaker 5: We all get there.
Speaker 7: I ain't even put him personally, and I think I'm
Speaker 7: being good. I'm just doing business.
Speaker 5: We get there.
Speaker 7: He come in like nothing happened, with his shades and
Speaker 7: shit on. He sit down, Kevin Black. We knowing I'm
Speaker 7: finna get it there Kevin Black and say come in
Speaker 7: and say what am I here?
Speaker 8: Fault?
Speaker 5: What's up? He said, oh, you look like Hesha called
Speaker 5: I had never I was. I was like what.
Speaker 1: I was, like what?
Speaker 5: Because he they said he had said he was Finns
Speaker 5: sign me.
Speaker 6: He don't know nothing about it.
Speaker 5: Though, you don't know nothing about it.
Speaker 7: So the assistant she got Antonio Tarboro tattoo.
Speaker 5: Antonio Tarboro tattoo.
Speaker 7: I had this song that keys y'all know, Tempthy Bloom Keys,
Speaker 7: and the song was saying, what you may not know
Speaker 7: is that your boyfriend he's a host. It's gonna shock
Speaker 7: you't for leeve and she just bop it and she
Speaker 7: gonna say, show Liz Donald what to say. I can't
Speaker 7: believe this. I hear him say this and I said,
Speaker 7: I feel I canna be a punk. Didn't get no deal,
Speaker 7: Ken Black didn't. It was so much negative energy. You
Speaker 7: ain't understand what the fuck was going on. Nothing that
Speaker 7: obviously it was the assistant in Antonio doing they want
Speaker 7: too so we don't know nothing. So we walk out
Speaker 7: this man at it's like, nothing happens. And then I'm like, well,
Speaker 7: you're gonna tell me you got married? He said, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna tell you on our vacation. So we're supposed to
Speaker 7: go on a vacation.
Speaker 11: Mm hmm. He yeah.
Speaker 5: I can't make it up.
Speaker 1: This is this is cold, this is this is different.
Speaker 5: And they did talk to me too about about this.
Speaker 1: Seemed like it's just a movie, like I see you
Speaker 1: like this in a movie.
Speaker 6: I was gonna tell you.
Speaker 5: Everybody know that happened. I've been talking about, go.
Speaker 1: Tell you on our vacation that I got married.
Speaker 5: Yes, yep. And then you know what he did.
Speaker 1: He left.
Speaker 5: I had to leave the house. He gave me ten
Speaker 5: thousand dollars in.
Speaker 6: The Jaguar severance package.
Speaker 1: Sean yep.
Speaker 5: And I ain't had nothing.
Speaker 4: I had that.
Speaker 7: I had ten thousand dollars and had Jaguar, and I
Speaker 7: came to Atlanta. He got all he signed on an
Speaker 7: apartment in Atlantic Station, and I didn't want to have
Speaker 7: nothing to do with my music, like none of that,
Speaker 7: and the money was running out, all the type of stuff.
Speaker 7: I was so embarrassed. I didn't want to go back home.
Speaker 7: And I see how my son, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: So what I do Because I'm in Atlanta here, I
Speaker 7: am misfamu everything I go.
Speaker 5: So I gotta go be a stripper. I'm in Atlanta.
Speaker 7: I got all I got is this, and I need
Speaker 7: some quick money so I can fund my own music
Speaker 7: and do my own thing. Yeah, And I ended up
Speaker 7: working at the strip club Flashes that was on Roswell.
Speaker 7: I remember my first day, the girls on drugs and everything,
Speaker 7: but that I can honestly say, even through college, that
Speaker 7: was the best learning experience I ever had in my life.
Speaker 7: And I was like everybody, it's two girls and they
Speaker 7: I'll tell you that I helped through college, like help
Speaker 7: them feel like college applications, Ken and them all them,
Speaker 7: I helped them feel like college application.
Speaker 5: I did all that.
Speaker 7: I didn't know what had happened to my life, and
Speaker 7: I wouldn't didn't want to say nothing. I didn't want
Speaker 7: to go be a lawyer. I didn't I wanted to
Speaker 7: be a singer. I was determined. I had bragged at home.
Speaker 6: Where were you telling your parents?
Speaker 7: I was telling them that I was okay and he
Speaker 7: was still taking care of me.
Speaker 5: And I had it handled. I had it. I didn't
Speaker 5: want to die.
Speaker 6: Did they know that he was married to Yep, yep, but.
Speaker 7: They didn't know I was no stripple. They didn't know
Speaker 7: what to whatever. I wanted to be left alone.
Speaker 5: I got it. I got it. I got it.
Speaker 6: You and you yep.
Speaker 7: My baby was with them then, so I was like,
Speaker 7: I'm ot here, I'm doing something.
Speaker 5: I got it.
Speaker 7: So I went into one of the worst strip clubs ever,
Speaker 7: holding the wall because I didn't want about it to
Speaker 7: see me.
Speaker 6: So you didn't go to You didn't go to Magic,
Speaker 6: you didn't.
Speaker 7: Go I didn't want about it as no I see.
Speaker 7: So I just remember I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 7: And I remember that the guys would be like, you're
Speaker 7: too smart, like what.
Speaker 5: Is going on?
Speaker 7: And the managers loved me because I wouldn't gonna be prostituting.
Speaker 7: I never on God's track now, I never prostituted I
Speaker 7: was really in there. I almost like my degree. I
Speaker 7: would talk to the white men and about them and
Speaker 7: they life. They that's I realized me and hate they
Speaker 7: wives and hate women.
Speaker 5: That was like the thing for me.
Speaker 7: I realized how many men hated women when I when
Speaker 7: I went in there, I couldn't really understand why they
Speaker 7: wanted to.
Speaker 5: Always get away.
Speaker 7: I always get away from them. And I would just
Speaker 7: sit there and talk to them, and they would pay
Speaker 7: me a lot of money.
Speaker 6: And so you were a strip club therapist basically.
Speaker 7: And I would only dance to Rascal flats Man. I
Speaker 7: danced to God, Blessed the Broken Road.
Speaker 1: I had overalls on God.
Speaker 5: That led me straight to you.
Speaker 7: I was up there stripping and my my manager would
Speaker 7: say you should take off your clothes sometimes like I
Speaker 7: was saying, it was a performance.
Speaker 5: I was singing and like perform up there, like.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And no, they love me like O girl.
Speaker 6: In Pa Valley who had like a full like I had,
Speaker 6: like a.
Speaker 5: People like And I would make money all of that.
Speaker 7: And I know one night Erica I had well, I
Speaker 7: had no connects mm hmm, and I said I had.
Speaker 5: Made a lot of money.
Speaker 7: It was a Friday night and I made a lot
Speaker 7: of money, you know people, and I'm not going back
Speaker 7: to strip club. I said, I'm not going back to
Speaker 7: strip club. I didn't have no plans, so I just
Speaker 7: said I'm going back. Erica Wright called me and said
Speaker 7: that Wayne Williams. Wayne Williams thinks that you are like
Speaker 7: a female Arkelly, and you need to meet with Rob and.
Speaker 6: Wayne and so you have music floating?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I gave her.
Speaker 7: She all had a demo that I had already got
Speaker 7: from these men, you know, like the demo, that type
Speaker 7: of thing. That's all I had was a demo. So
Speaker 7: I would go and take the money, try to go
Speaker 7: to the studio. I remember one day Jersey Fake came
Speaker 7: in the studio in the cir club and I ran
Speaker 7: off the stage.
Speaker 6: Just like he can't see me though.
Speaker 7: Because but I knew he was jes Yeah, and I
Speaker 7: like took off like running. And I would look for
Speaker 7: people from college because this is ms FAM you yeah,
Speaker 7: Like I would look and the like run off.
Speaker 5: Like two years for two years?
Speaker 6: Are you put in time?
Speaker 7: I remember the tags out on the jag while going
Speaker 7: down Roswell having.
Speaker 5: To go to jail because the tags.
Speaker 7: Was it inspired on you just always and some ship.
Speaker 3: I didn't know none of I knew pieces of it,
Speaker 3: but the in depth mm hmmm, when I said, you've
Speaker 3: been pushing through this is a whole nother level.
Speaker 5: No, we ain't even got to the phone when I
Speaker 5: met Zema, because that was a whole like.
Speaker 2: Williams, Williams and Rob rob Yeah, so do.
Speaker 7: I would never meet Rob Wick, never mean me. He
Speaker 7: was always busy. So I went up to Jive it
Speaker 7: was Jive Records at that.
Speaker 1: Time and where uh.
Speaker 5: New York.
Speaker 7: I went up there and I ended up playing the music.
Speaker 7: And then this guy he was so handsome. It was
Speaker 7: myth hits and he walked by and he was like
Speaker 7: you know how this was like it's if he had
Speaker 7: a nine on one chain. I was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 7: from Memphis. He was like really, And so he was
Speaker 7: doing this regular flirt. And so then the budgets was closing,
Speaker 7: like in January, and Wayne Williams didn't have the budget,
Speaker 7: but men pits they had gave him this big.
Speaker 5: Did so he said no, I'm signed.
Speaker 7: No, and then berry Wise said, I don't care who
Speaker 7: sign just Simon. So I went with the Mephian, this
Speaker 7: is your first deal, my first d I went with
Speaker 7: the Mephian and I remember R Kelly, you know how
Speaker 7: me and the Egos, and R Kelly was like.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I was supposed to signon.
Speaker 7: So right after I got signed, I had to go
Speaker 7: to Patchwork and meet R.
Speaker 5: Kelly, and I never forget. I walked into Patchwork.
Speaker 7: And the first thing he said, are you a stripper?
Speaker 7: And I said huh. I was like, you had me come.
Speaker 7: He said, noah, but you came in here like give
Speaker 7: me my money. What's so with my money? And I
Speaker 7: said and I said no because I at that time,
Speaker 7: you know, they be so open now that yeah, this
Speaker 7: time it was like embarrassing.
Speaker 5: I was hiding it and I was like, no, I'm
Speaker 5: not no.
Speaker 7: And so I remember being so hot in the studio
Speaker 7: that all the equipment shut down, and I was like,
Speaker 7: it's so hot in here, and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 7: that's the problem with y'all young artists. You spost sang
Speaker 7: out a desperation and I said, okay.
Speaker 5: They had on the bubble coat.
Speaker 6: He said, he had on the bubble a bubble.
Speaker 7: Coat, burning up, an equipment shut down. He had bubble
Speaker 7: coat and I.
Speaker 1: We're gonna create the theatrics.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he had bubble coat and I was.
Speaker 5: Like sitting there and so I played He's like you
Speaker 5: wrote that.
Speaker 7: I was like yeah, he was like okay, And so
Speaker 7: then I know, I tried to leave it. I was hungry,
Speaker 7: and then he was like what you want and he
Speaker 7: was like, yo, what you want?
Speaker 5: And I want to walk the house. And then we
Speaker 5: was friends like it was since then.
Speaker 7: It was like, I guess he never wanted me to leave,
Speaker 7: and it was that situation. So then I had a car,
Speaker 7: I had myth Hits.
Speaker 5: But you signed yeah, but I'm signing.
Speaker 6: His okay, okay.
Speaker 7: And but our Kelly has grown fun you know, norma situation.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm chilling whatever. But Memphis is my knight
Speaker 7: in sharing the armor because he is fine, okay, and
Speaker 7: he from my city. He talked my language. He talked
Speaker 7: at Memphis, you know.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's still he was still our Kelly, but
Speaker 7: it was different language, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 7: of course by then, memph Hits had all these women
Speaker 7: issues and things like that, and then I started to
Speaker 7: date myph Hits like really ended up moving in with
Speaker 7: him bare wise and then was like, this is not
Speaker 7: what he's supposed to be doing over here, Like I'm honest,
Speaker 7: like this is not supposed to be doing over here
Speaker 7: all the day.
Speaker 5: And then I would go see R. Kelly and then
Speaker 5: to do this and then Memphis would getting.
Speaker 7: Mad like that type of thing, and then he yes,
Speaker 7: and then Memphid, I still said this, this was my
Speaker 7: first I did. I did Dime and Drama Boy like
Speaker 7: I did do their interview some months ago, and I
Speaker 7: was able to kind of really give Mempids his you
Speaker 7: know props. You know, issues happen and things happened, and yeah,
Speaker 7: Mempids has a real volatile streak that I wasn't used
Speaker 7: to because I was I was kind of like a favorite,
Speaker 7: like I was everybody homegirl. Like it wasn't like, don't
Speaker 7: nobody hit on me like that, you know what I'm
Speaker 7: saying for what she cool?
Speaker 5: That ain't that ain't what we're doing.
Speaker 7: And I just remember he was very violent, and I
Speaker 7: know my career was caught up and dead, and I
Speaker 7: just remember kept on escalating the violence and everything kept
Speaker 7: on getting very bad, and he was like threatening to
Speaker 7: take my career.
Speaker 5: And then I remember that.
Speaker 7: I Kelly found out about the abuse and told him
Speaker 7: let me have a let me sign and and then
Speaker 7: me and people was like, oh my dead body, oh
Speaker 7: my dead body.
Speaker 5: We're not doing this. So I remember me and Dondrea.
Speaker 6: You remember, of course.
Speaker 5: He wouldn't let r.
Speaker 7: Kelly sign me MEI let me going out and went
Speaker 7: through abuse and dealt with all that, and he was like,
Speaker 7: taught me online and everything.
Speaker 5: I remember me and Dondrea went to his house in Camp.
Speaker 7: Creek and we went and pulled all the flowers out
Speaker 7: of his flower bed.
Speaker 5: Because I was so mad and I wanted Kelly to
Speaker 5: sign me and I want.
Speaker 7: Him to let me go and pull the I didn't
Speaker 7: know what to do, a random act of.
Speaker 5: We were gonna turn it, you know, peaceful.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 5: And by then he was still holding.
Speaker 7: Me, and then hear me and then he was cheating
Speaker 7: on me with Toya. I remember he made me watch
Speaker 7: Toya and Tiny show and I sat there and watched
Speaker 7: this show knowing that she was fucking hum and she
Speaker 7: knew about me and everything.
Speaker 1: And this is the manholding your career.
Speaker 7: Holding my career in his hands. Yeah, ald of my career,
Speaker 7: be my ad, keep my music. So I went over
Speaker 7: there to pull all the things out the flyer bed
Speaker 7: because I Kelly said to them, just let me through
Speaker 7: the project, just let me and whatever. So when people
Speaker 7: be trying to make me be angry with Rob, I'd
Speaker 7: be like, well, one abuser took me from another one.
Speaker 7: What you want me to do? Like that was the
Speaker 7: only person that really did it was a person who
Speaker 7: gotta save me and got my stuff going like would you?
Speaker 6: So you were able to get out of the deal
Speaker 6: and no, I was.
Speaker 7: Able to say leave her the fuck alone because of
Speaker 7: this abuse and leave this girl alone. You're gonna still
Speaker 7: get your credit, but we won't. This is our superstar here.
Speaker 7: We want him to write this music and we want
Speaker 7: him to do that.
Speaker 6: So did that end up happening?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's when stuff really started to look out
Speaker 5: for me when I went and stayed with Rob.
Speaker 6: So how long were you working with Rod?
Speaker 5: A long time?
Speaker 7: I was walking Rob a long time, and yeah, I
Speaker 7: got to just see a lot that was, like I say,
Speaker 7: those experiences that I'll never forget. But that was the
Speaker 7: most musical and the most I learned musically. But I've
Speaker 7: had some of the craziest, funniest weirdest experiences.
Speaker 5: Of my entire career. But rob one thing, he really
Speaker 5: did believe in me.
Speaker 7: Some reason he did, so I was not left, you know,
Speaker 7: like trapped in closets like I did.
Speaker 5: Get to work.
Speaker 7: I was always working and you know, doing things like that,
Speaker 7: and I just learned the whole world, yeah, of different things,
Speaker 7: and this.
Speaker 2: Whole time you're on jove yep. So none of that changes.
Speaker 2: You still change.
Speaker 5: None of that change.
Speaker 7: They tell him, you're gonna have to You're gonna chill
Speaker 7: out because my budget, it was I was the only
Speaker 7: one who had an open budget. So even when Hugh
Speaker 7: was having the songs and all of that, they were
Speaker 7: spending my budget on chains and stuff like that because
Speaker 7: no one had an open budget out of all them
Speaker 7: artists he signed up. So that was a problem. I
Speaker 7: was like, I didn't get that. I didn't even know
Speaker 7: all of this. Why is this these budgets don't mean
Speaker 7: because I had the only open budget out of all
Speaker 7: them NP his artists, but you were.
Speaker 6: Also paying attention to your budget too that well, No,
Speaker 6: I just knew.
Speaker 7: When they started to say I ain't I'm like, I
Speaker 7: don't have anything, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5: We can't keep on recording this, this, this, that and
Speaker 5: all of that. I started to know.
Speaker 7: And then I would start talking to people and and
Speaker 7: I don't know if anybody know, and she'd be like,
Speaker 7: oh of like Wu tang and all of that.
Speaker 5: And she's like Kelly's right hand. And she started to
Speaker 5: talk to me and be.
Speaker 7: Like, Okay, this is what's going on with you in
Speaker 7: your situation.
Speaker 5: Let's show you.
Speaker 7: But the whole time, you know, running the studio now
Speaker 7: running and Rob was.
Speaker 5: Really doing no career, Rob wild.
Speaker 7: Have Running and all of that record and me and
Speaker 7: Running to this day, that's my brother, never stuff together,
Speaker 7: his kids, my little girls and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 7: and Running would just take the shit for free and
Speaker 7: record me money.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And so when do you start to kind of see
Speaker 3: some light when it comes to like your your music
Speaker 3: coming out and you're getting an opportunity.
Speaker 5: I started to see some light.
Speaker 7: I remember I was very I was upset with Rob,
Speaker 7: and I remember I went in his his face, Oh
Speaker 7: I'm popping out, okay, and his face and I was
Speaker 7: like I just said, though, I love you and I
Speaker 7: care about you, but you keep on hurting me. And
Speaker 7: that man wrote that song in my face. I mean,
Speaker 7: it's genius now, but I was so it was so
Speaker 7: disrespectful at that. If a woman come and you be
Speaker 7: like I can't do this, like I'm not with this,
Speaker 7: and he say, do I love you, ain't care about you?
Speaker 7: But jogie, you heard me. I was like this, niggas
Speaker 7: really sanging in my face? You really like sanging in
Speaker 7: my face.
Speaker 6: Like this everything you were saying to him, he was
Speaker 6: turning into.
Speaker 7: It, just started singing immediately, and that was my single.
Speaker 5: I'm like, whoo, I feel to make some music.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like, I got it and
Speaker 7: it's not age. It ain't no age in country music.
Speaker 7: The older, the season, you're better your season. You can
Speaker 7: sing a song if you place. Yeah, I did, and
Speaker 7: I'm ready. I can't put out a country album to
Speaker 7: two months after this last R and B album.
Speaker 5: This is my country and today is out of here.
Speaker 5: I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Hanging out, yod around around words go together, Jay and
Speaker 1: you know they do, they do.
Speaker 2: But while we own this R and B thing, yeah,
Speaker 2: we still got you for two months.
Speaker 6: We still got you for two months. But she got
Speaker 6: over there, Chap and what are the name of your restaurants.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 7: So I saw that two weeks for COVID and the
Speaker 7: Garden Park is still open with my partner, and these.
Speaker 6: Are Memphis, of these in Atlanta.
Speaker 7: These are okay, And the new one is in Brookhaven.
Speaker 7: It is five thousand square feet. It's absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 6: That's open now, Garden Park. Okay, So we got to
Speaker 6: get by there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta get back there. I had my partner
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 6: Some army money is coming by.
Speaker 5: You got it, I got.
Speaker 7: You what you like whatever y'all get to do, you
Speaker 7: tell them because.
Speaker 5: I'm going there like, shame up.
Speaker 1: It's not that in the corner.
Speaker 5: No, but I know you like torquing on chicken. That's
Speaker 5: not what I'm doing here. I can't take what.
Speaker 6: I don't know how they be.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's like this thing like I don't understand
Speaker 7: why we can't have nothing.
Speaker 5: It's why, why does it have to do? Why nobody?
Speaker 5: I don't want your talking over my chicken. I don't
Speaker 5: want it. You know what I'm saying. It's certain places
Speaker 5: you go do that.
Speaker 7: But now this restaurant is very nice, like it's it's beautiful,
Speaker 7: it's about to open, and I just do a lot
Speaker 7: of different food cuisines from different places and like different.
Speaker 5: It's creative, like you.
Speaker 7: Know, like I love you know titles, so I love
Speaker 7: like doing K's bath water and all these type of.
Speaker 5: Things just like me.
Speaker 7: And you get to be like so creative. So I'm
Speaker 7: excited about this about to open. It's like the biggest
Speaker 7: one for me. So it's about to open up.
Speaker 6: Thanks, let us know when you open.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I gotta be there. I'm definitely gonna dry
Speaker 5: y'all crazius. I could be there. What you finking?
Speaker 6: Come on, mister.
Speaker 1: Rogers, are your top five?
Speaker 8: My top five? F you're tip five, top.
Speaker 5: Number one.
Speaker 10: Me?
Speaker 12: So okay, we walk case counry myself.
Speaker 1: We want to know you leave your time.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, and you can tell you we got soul
Speaker 8: your time.
Speaker 7: Okay, Time five, not saying because I'm your face.
Speaker 5: Definitely tank time five. Think I would say so it
Speaker 5: definitely powerhouse power.
Speaker 7: I would say three usher like yeah, don't play with us, like,
Speaker 7: let's not do this, Mario.
Speaker 5: We have a show a.
Speaker 6: Couple of weeks, yes, sir, yeah, well we had four.
Speaker 5: And then I would say female female lettsy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, people better start playing with.
Speaker 5: Letters yeah, yea, let us.
Speaker 1: Can cook five flat for the cook none.
Speaker 5: But it just feels like love.
Speaker 1: Let im like that.
Speaker 5: I would say, top five R and B songs.
Speaker 1: We'll leave the segment, go ahead, do your thing.
Speaker 5: I love Jenny Jackson. Let's wait a while.
Speaker 7: I don't know why new addition?
Speaker 5: Can you saying the ring?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 5: But Mary J. Blash and I can't beat it after very.
Speaker 7: I love and people will not consider this and even
Speaker 7: think about this. My favorite being save record is I
Speaker 7: Miss You like every Day the Friend.
Speaker 5: But it's like one of my favorite. It was like,
Speaker 5: you know what, but like I love that record, and
Speaker 5: I always say, oh, like I love Mint Condition.
Speaker 7: We all like they know the pretty brown eyes like.
Speaker 5: Them type of r Vy rocks.
Speaker 7: It's for me, like you know what I'm saying, Oh,
Speaker 7: and I love the don't want to make a scene.
Speaker 7: I'm like, I went to sing, but I'm like, I
Speaker 7: just look like when I think R and B get excited. Yeah, yes, oh,
Speaker 7: but we ain't gonna leave out my mentor we we
Speaker 7: just cannot we cannot leave out seems like you're ready.
Speaker 14: I'm gonna why you're not fella play with Robert Selvester
Speaker 14: Kelly Okay, so.
Speaker 5: I would saying them songs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you're gonna build a Vultron.
Speaker 3: No, he hasn't been in Voltron quite some time. Listen,
Speaker 3: they kicked him out of us. They kick him out
Speaker 3: of about three movies.
Speaker 5: Ago Entertainment.
Speaker 3: With him Transformer. We're building a Voltron. Voltron is your
Speaker 3: super hero R and B artist. You have to tell
Speaker 3: me what person we're gonna build it. What person You're
Speaker 3: gonna get the vocal from? What person You're gonna get
Speaker 3: the performance style from? What person? You're gonna get the
Speaker 3: styling from? What person you are going to get the
Speaker 3: passion from the heart of the artists. So you're building
Speaker 3: your super artist from one person? Are you going to
Speaker 3: get the vocal from to build this artist?
Speaker 5: Jasmine?
Speaker 1: Start off strong?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 1: The performance style on.
Speaker 7: Stage, oh, Michael Jackson easy, yeah, okay, the styling.
Speaker 1: Fly fly only with child.
Speaker 3: Doing it the whole time, and the passion of that artist,
Speaker 3: the heart of the artists.
Speaker 2: Mary, that's a cold last artist, that's a cold Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, it will be the greatest starts of all times.
Speaker 1: I like those.
Speaker 6: Laura Heil Oh yeah, huh mis education.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an artist.
Speaker 6: She just told you the album that they're gonna make to.
Speaker 1: What's the title of that?
Speaker 3: What's the title of that artists album?
Speaker 5: Walk around, find Out and bound out?
Speaker 3: Name something from me? Your titles got hit? Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: got conversation to it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, what what else you got over there?
Speaker 10: Chief?
Speaker 7: So let me give you, let me give you a phrase,
Speaker 7: and you make a song.
Speaker 1: Okay, Shells Cay Michelle's.
Speaker 6: Here, okay, here, okay.
Speaker 5: So if we any any phrase, you make a song.
Speaker 7: Okay, because let me tell you this, this one story
Speaker 7: before we do it. Every day when I live with
Speaker 7: ar Killing, he would wake up and he would do
Speaker 7: a new you know, in first place in the morning.
Speaker 7: Step in the Name of Love will come on in
Speaker 7: the house every day at ten o'clock over the whole
Speaker 7: house like a speaker. So no matter, it's gonna say
Speaker 7: step in the Name of Love. So then he make
Speaker 7: a drink every day, and a drink would be like
Speaker 7: call sex, sex in the city, sex on the counter,
Speaker 7: sex on the mic, sex around the corner. And then
Speaker 7: just like so we're gonna I'm gonna give you a phrase,
Speaker 7: give you a phrase, and you're gonna like tear this
Speaker 7: shit up.
Speaker 5: Okay. So let's say sex in Atlanta. It's like sex
Speaker 5: in Atlanta, but just like a song. Come on you
Speaker 5: sorry to y'all? Okay, ship sex and Alama.
Speaker 11: Mm hm m hm.
Speaker 1: She was from a small town.
Speaker 10: She had never been around room stars before. Come on,
Speaker 10: she can do the strip.
Speaker 13: Clar up for.
Speaker 1: Some wings and things.
Speaker 10: I told her about the place. I told her that
Speaker 10: a long scene. She said, were we going now? I said,
Speaker 10: to my room.
Speaker 5: To room room, to her room, to her room.
Speaker 10: She said she was down in order to know where
Speaker 10: we're going. Whatever you want to, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want me? And this good sex. And and Lena, this.
Speaker 10: Niggas called this nigg is called he had sex in
Speaker 10: and Lena?
Speaker 5: Yeah what we when.
Speaker 1: She put it down?
Speaker 3: But she worked from Magic City City, She's been around.
Speaker 1: I can't come this mello.
Speaker 3: Ain't saying no name, no name.
Speaker 1: Amazing what you did? Don't say I ain't saying no name.
Speaker 5: Lets play the game, Oh ship, there we go.
Speaker 6: We got k Michelle and the bill.
Speaker 3: We do the title of all titles, Title of all titles.
Speaker 2: So this game is called I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 2: Will you tell us a story funny or fucked up?
Speaker 2: Are funny? And fucked up all of your stories? Are
Speaker 2: you queen of this ship?
Speaker 4: I got what you that do not.
Speaker 6: The only rule to the game is you can't say
Speaker 6: no names. I won't so right now, Okay, this is
Speaker 6: miss Ky Michelle, okay, who always likes to say names.
Speaker 1: It can still be real, be real.
Speaker 6: I just don't say their names.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 4: No receipt, no receipt.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 7: So I was touring and there was this one R
Speaker 7: and B dude that was trying to mess with me, right,
Speaker 7: but then it was this rap.
Speaker 5: Dude too, Okay.
Speaker 7: So I decided in DC that I was going to
Speaker 7: use my tour bus. I was just gonna go with
Speaker 7: the rap dude. So we go into the strip club stadium,
Speaker 7: his friends around. I think they look like they the police.
Speaker 7: So he supposed to be like a street dude. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 7: is your dude's real police like? He's like no, no, no,
Speaker 7: then and street is. He proceeds to try to hold
Speaker 7: my hand in the club, okay, before getting any high
Speaker 7: pocket anything.
Speaker 11: So why watching the strips it was like he was
Speaker 11: fashing the street.
Speaker 6: This is fair, This is so fair.
Speaker 7: So then he go back, he get on my tour
Speaker 7: bus and all my friends there, all his homies and
Speaker 7: all this stuff. He got an intimacy problem. And then
Speaker 7: he drops his pants like no foreplay. He just assumed
Speaker 7: that I was gonna give him some. He drops his
Speaker 7: pants and bow bow. Guess what happens. His chain is
Speaker 7: bigger than his ditch. And I could not believe that
Speaker 7: he was that loud and that chain. He was screaming
Speaker 7: that loud rapping, and his chain was that big, and
Speaker 7: it's all he had the whole light show, but down
Speaker 7: there that thing was like I couldn't believe what I
Speaker 7: was witnessing. And I said, it's not you, it's me.
Speaker 7: I don't trust rappers.
Speaker 9: Yeah, no name game, that's it.
Speaker 1: One of your.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And it when I want to cad like I'm not
Speaker 7: the girl to be like, oh you gotta have this
Speaker 7: big I'm not even with that. It's just the fact
Speaker 7: that that you so like, you know, you just think
Speaker 7: that this is so much around here, it's so little
Speaker 7: down there.
Speaker 5: That was like a lot for me, you know, to.
Speaker 7: Experience and thens like find out Santa Claus like real ships.
Speaker 5: At a different type of experience.
Speaker 1: And you didn't proceed you.
Speaker 7: Because I was shocked in the first place, and I
Speaker 7: didn't see them like I didn't see them like they
Speaker 7: and then it was a whole thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then they get mad and they tried to
Speaker 5: say it was a situation. I said, I said, I
Speaker 5: don't trust rappers.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm did you? Did you? Then?
Speaker 5: No? The RN got me cool right now, I don't
Speaker 5: even know if he likes ship.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, let me tell you something. Come on, we
Speaker 1: can we can come through.
Speaker 3: Come on, Bishop can come through in a real way,
Speaker 3: in a real way. And I meant it when I
Speaker 3: said at the beginning, you are. You are a testament
Speaker 3: to you know, to fighting for it. Thank you to
Speaker 3: saying this is, this is what I'm going to do.
Speaker 3: And however in the hell I got to get there,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get there.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 3: And people can hear these stories and and people can
Speaker 3: say what they wouldn't do or try to judge from
Speaker 3: uh from from from their living rooms, but they will
Speaker 3: never understand what it takes to chase it dream, to
Speaker 3: have a real purpose in life and knowing that nothing
Speaker 3: is going to stop me from getting to the place.
Speaker 3: There's a destination over there, period and whatever I have
Speaker 3: to go through to get to that that is just
Speaker 3: going to be part for the course mm hm. And
Speaker 3: that's just gonna be my testimony to my greatness.
Speaker 5: Well, you have my bag. You have my beg when
Speaker 5: people didn't believe me.
Speaker 7: Then when I had them nked pitches, you have my
Speaker 7: bag about the naked pitches.
Speaker 5: You're trying to get the naked pitches down.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like, no, y'all, My brothers and y'all have been
Speaker 7: thorough like. Y'all have been solid a in an industry
Speaker 7: where people are not solid, y'all have remained who y'all are.
Speaker 7: And that is so respectful from where I'm from.
Speaker 5: So forever, forever, I got y'all forever my name.
Speaker 3: And this is the Army Way podcast on all things
Speaker 3: on R and B and.
Speaker 1: Country and Country Now.
Speaker 3: And this his it will always be Kay Michelle.
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