Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
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Speaker 1: Well it is Wednesday on this show. You know that
Speaker 1: means Dynamite is tonight, and a lot of stuff happening
Speaker 1: on Dynamite tonight. We're going to have at least one debut,
Speaker 1: and certainly the rumors are that we will have to.
Speaker 1: So we got a lineup for the show tonight. We'll
Speaker 1: tell you about everything scheduled for the Dynamite show and
Speaker 1: some speculation about who the two big surprises might be
Speaker 1: if there are two, I think there's two, and all
Speaker 1: of the rest of the news coming out of a
Speaker 1: w Dynamite. We have also got an x T two
Speaker 1: point oh last night, Everyone's Favorite topic. A lot of
Speaker 1: stuff happened on nx TEA, including the debut of Dolph Ziggler,
Speaker 1: who interrupted the summit between braun Breaker and Santos Escobar.
Speaker 1: This was the go home segment for their big match
Speaker 1: next week, but Dolph Ziggler was the focus of the segments.
Speaker 1: It was a little bizarre, we can tell you about that.
Speaker 1: And as noted the Raw ratings, Raw in fact drew
Speaker 1: its lowest audience in history and actually only the second
Speaker 1: lowest eighteen to forty nine in history. This of course
Speaker 1: was the show that is pre empted due to the
Speaker 1: Olympics that moved to sci Fi. We talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 1: Not really anything to be overly concerned about. It is
Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, everything going up against the
Speaker 1: Winter Olympics is going to take a hit, whether that
Speaker 1: be W W E programming, a w programming, or whatever
Speaker 1: the programming might be. But we'll give you the the
Speaker 1: hourly numbers and all of the details on Raw. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 1: the set an hour actually did the best of the
Speaker 1: three hours, So we'll go into the ratings and all
Speaker 1: of that kind of good stuff, and also updates on Yes,
Speaker 1: we are actually going to have a women's Dusty Cup,
Speaker 1: but you announced it will be taking place in a
Speaker 1: two weeks so apparently they now figured out who's gonna
Speaker 1: be and all of these teams, so we'll get into that.
Speaker 1: Mikesp for viv Joints is and more. After the break
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Speaker 1: Observer Alive, Mikes and Berviti also Wrestling Observer dot Com.
Speaker 1: Hello everyone, y'all enjoyed the toga party yesterday? I hope?
Speaker 1: So where's Mike now? He's there checking and it looks
Speaker 1: like we got a lot of people enjoyed it. I'm
Speaker 1: not blurry? Am I auto focus again? It's like, oh man,
Speaker 1: look at that? What is going on? Everything? I think
Speaker 1: we need to just manually manually auto focused it every
Speaker 1: day for some reason? Is the color right this time?
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on? All right, let's get
Speaker 1: right in the news here Tonight's Dynamite and obviously there's
Speaker 1: a lot of speculation about who who's debuting on the
Speaker 1: show tonight. Tony Kahn continued to pound the drum. It
Speaker 1: says here from Wrestling Observer dot Com with multiple media
Speaker 1: outlets that Wednesday's Dynamite from Atlantic City, New Jersey will
Speaker 1: be special for several reasons. Speaking of both people the
Speaker 1: inside are busted open and separate interviews contact about tonight's
Speaker 1: surprise news signing that will debut against Isaiah Cassidy in
Speaker 1: the face of the Revolution qualifying match in the show.
Speaker 1: In general, he says, I'm going to try to satisfy
Speaker 1: a lot of fans tonight. I had a lot of
Speaker 1: thoughts over the weekend and what that means. I pivot
Speaker 1: had some plans in the last few days in a
Speaker 1: good way to make tonight's show even better, told puple
Speaker 1: Insiderythings designing is a quote major one for them and
Speaker 1: that he hopes people's expectations will be met, also saying
Speaker 1: that even if the person isn't one of the guests,
Speaker 1: as fans have, that does not change the possibility of
Speaker 1: them showing up in a w in the future. He
Speaker 1: said that while there are a lot of fun things
Speaker 1: planned for Wednesday already, there is more that they have
Speaker 1: not announced, some of which will come today and into
Speaker 1: the evening. There is also gonna be some really exciting
Speaker 1: things on the show that have not been announced yet.
Speaker 1: He said he was non committal to p w Insider
Speaker 1: on whether there will be more than one debut tonight.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too specific to say exactly
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. It's going to be a great
Speaker 1: night for the fans. I promise there will definitely be
Speaker 1: one surprise, and I think there will be some other
Speaker 1: really fun stuff along the way to Part of cons
Speaker 1: approaches listening to the fans, which is driving some of
Speaker 1: what they will see Wednesday. I really do value the
Speaker 1: feedback from the fans, what they have to say. Part
Speaker 1: of the reason I'm going to do a lot of
Speaker 1: things we're gonna do on tonight's shows because I listened
Speaker 1: to the fans in their voice and what they want
Speaker 1: to see. There's a lot to look forward to on
Speaker 1: this show. So announced his Hangman Page Lance Archer, Texas
Speaker 1: death Match and appearance by m jf Isaiah Cassidy versus
Speaker 1: a debuting top wrestler, and an Inner Circle team meeting.
Speaker 1: Tony con also said the new debuting star walking through
Speaker 1: the Forbidden Door on Wednesday's Dynamite will also set up
Speaker 1: this Friday's rampage. He called it a huge signing. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a big reveal on Dynamite. It sets up
Speaker 1: this week's rampage, puts a lot of iron on the fire.
Speaker 1: We have created an environment in a w W W where
Speaker 1: people routinely expect great wrestling matches, and we have wrestlers
Speaker 1: to live up to those expectations. I've created some debate
Speaker 1: about what it means to open the forbidden door, and
Speaker 1: that's what we're going to do here on this show,
Speaker 1: he said. I recently asked Danielson and Jade Cargill, who's
Speaker 1: already starting an amazing runs our TBS Champion, to work together.
Speaker 1: Brian is gonna be training Jade Cargill. Well, that's good coaching.
Speaker 1: I guess it would be better. So anyway, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be tonight. Who's gonna be tonight? Anybody? I'll tell you,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be who I believe. And I'm
Speaker 1: not reporting this because I I don't actually know who's
Speaker 1: gonna be there tonight, but I I believe that tonight
Speaker 1: you will see the debut of Keith Lee and you
Speaker 1: will also see the A E W debut of j White.
Speaker 1: I do believe that both of those people are gonna
Speaker 1: be there tonight. They might not be, and as Tony
Speaker 1: conn noted, maybe the debuting wrestler is not Keith Lee. Well,
Speaker 1: if that's the case, maybe Keith Lee is going to
Speaker 1: show up later on. But it appears. Here's the two
Speaker 1: things that I can tell you that appear inevitable Jay White.
Speaker 1: At some point, it's going to appear for a W.
Speaker 1: He's promoted it himself on every New Japan Strong show
Speaker 1: that I've seen in the last couple of months. Now,
Speaker 1: whenever he's got a live mike, he's gonna show up
Speaker 1: at some point. I think it's gonna be tonight. Keith
Speaker 1: Lee his his uh, he's likely likely signed with with
Speaker 1: a W. UH. We'll find out soon enough, but I
Speaker 1: believe that Keith Lee is going to end up in
Speaker 1: a W one way or the other. So that's why
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be here tonight. Could be other people,
Speaker 1: but that's my prediction. Now, I know you're you're kind
Speaker 1: of allergic to it, you know, but do you want
Speaker 1: to have some fun here a little bit? Since I
Speaker 1: hate fun? I know you have streperous little man you.
Speaker 1: But you know, we've talked about a lot of names,
Speaker 1: names that you know won't be there for contractual reasons,
Speaker 1: like Jeff Hardy. Names that could be there like Keith Lee,
Speaker 1: Johnny Gargano, some people talking about I would say with
Speaker 1: nine certainty it's not gonna be Johnny. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, there's all these names that have kind of
Speaker 1: been floated out there, with Keith Lee being the most
Speaker 1: obvious one in j White like you men, and I
Speaker 1: think that would make a lot of sense for tonight.
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of new Japan contracts that
Speaker 1: had run out. So could we see Camatonga, g O D.
Speaker 1: Could we see Juice Robinson who I think Juice Robinson
Speaker 1: fit Finley I think would be a great addition in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Fly that would be a great addition.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, David, I'm sorry, it's I'm old and your
Speaker 1: father was great. Um, Look, you don't know Bandido Rush.
Speaker 1: I don't know where they fit in because of politics
Speaker 1: with Mexico and things like that. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: interesting to think about some names that are out there
Speaker 1: that could come in that people are not as hyper
Speaker 1: focused on, which could make it really cool, especially if
Speaker 1: you do get a keep Belie and then you do
Speaker 1: get a left field surprise, and I guess for some
Speaker 1: people that would be j White. But you know, again,
Speaker 1: there's so many names out there that could come in
Speaker 1: and be impactful. Again, Juice Robinson, I think, and again
Speaker 1: I don't know the situation of impact or any of
Speaker 1: that stuff. I think he would be as addition onto
Speaker 1: the a W roster. Here's the deal. What I love
Speaker 1: to see Juice Robinson and David Finley and a W.
Speaker 1: Of course I would what I like to see any
Speaker 1: number of of talented New Japan wrestlers there. Yes, but
Speaker 1: here's the deal. Tony Khan has has built this up big, Okay.
Speaker 1: I love Juice Robinson, I love David Finley. No, no, no, Look,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that not only as the only person. I'm
Speaker 1: saying along with Safe of course I would. No, the
Speaker 1: secondary person has got to be someone like J White
Speaker 1: to me, Like I I mean, if people are expecting
Speaker 1: somebody from New Japan to step through the forbidden door,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that like the real hardcorees would be excited
Speaker 1: for Juice Robinson and David Finley. But J White is
Speaker 1: at the top of the of all people. By the way, Mike,
Speaker 1: you're the biggest J. White fan in the world leaving
Speaker 1: on top of this pyramid. Look, but do you want
Speaker 1: to shoot that wade I'm looking at A double shot
Speaker 1: is over with me? You know. I want to do
Speaker 1: this tonight because Raw, even though it was on Sci Fi,
Speaker 1: it did a terrible number. So you know, both shows
Speaker 1: this week. I mean, man, this is I don't know.
Speaker 1: If they could beat Raw in viewership and eighteen forty nine,
Speaker 1: it would uh eighteen and forty nine. I think they
Speaker 1: can easily beat Raw. Actually total viewership. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: about that, but they it's it's not impossible. You're right,
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. But that's gonna be established because there's
Speaker 1: going to be a surpriser too, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: J White? Unless J White debuts at the very beginning
Speaker 1: of the show and then we see numbers rise, which
Speaker 1: could very well happen if J White is on your show.
Speaker 1: That's how much I believe in that guy, best wrestler
Speaker 1: in the world. Take that Osprey anyway, Look, if the
Speaker 1: number is gonna be set, I think so. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's him being on the show is going
Speaker 1: to be that it's not going to cause the number
Speaker 1: to go up. That that die I think is already
Speaker 1: cast going into the show tonight. So here's what Raw did,
Speaker 1: lowest audience in history, second lowest eighteen to forty nine
Speaker 1: in history. The show did one point three nine million
Speaker 1: viewers at an O point three six and eighteen to
Speaker 1: forty nine. I would be very surprised if Dynamite did
Speaker 1: not beat that point three six, but they have done
Speaker 1: one point three million before. But they would basically need
Speaker 1: to do one point four million for the show tonight,
Speaker 1: and I I don't think there's much of a chance
Speaker 1: of that happening. With the move to Sci Fi due
Speaker 1: to the Winter Olympics, record lows were expected. Demo number
Speaker 1: actually is raw second ever, as the December six raw
Speaker 1: on USA did a point three five went up against
Speaker 1: the Bills versus the Patriots. Raw still third on cable,
Speaker 1: behind Olympic coverage on the USA network, the five to
Speaker 1: eight coverage doing one point eight one million viewers and
Speaker 1: a point three at an eighteen and forty nine eight
Speaker 1: to midnight two point oh seven million viewers and an
Speaker 1: o point four. Oh so, I mean, honestly, honestly, like,
Speaker 1: these numbers are not terrible. I mean, when you look
Speaker 1: at them, they sure sound terrible, but considering the show
Speaker 1: was moved to Sci Fi on Monday night and if
Speaker 1: you watch the show, it wasn't like they packed the
Speaker 1: show or anything like that. I mean, these are not
Speaker 1: terrible numbers. The uh oh, I hear the music, Well,
Speaker 1: too bad. I'm gonna go through the break the main
Speaker 1: Olympic events aired on nb I'm just kidding. Back at
Speaker 1: the moment Observer Live. Back in the show, Bryan Albert
Speaker 1: is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike some per viv also
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer dot Com. We got a tough guy in
Speaker 1: the YouTube chat. Yeah, oh yeah, he's a tough guy.
Speaker 1: He's gonna call in and school me later. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: on what I'll be waiting. Well, you know, he's he's
Speaker 1: ranting about how much Dynamite sucks because they have never
Speaker 1: come close. He says to what they did for their
Speaker 1: very first a W Dynamite, and uh, I made note that,
Speaker 1: you know, the very first SmackDown on Fox and four
Speaker 1: million viewers, and they've never come close to that. In fact,
Speaker 1: they're two million away from what they did for that
Speaker 1: first show on Fox. But apparently this doesn't count, you see.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna school me as to why it's different
Speaker 1: that the SmackDown debut on Fox being half of what
Speaker 1: they did for their first show is fine, but a
Speaker 1: W being down a couple hundred thousand from their their
Speaker 1: peak is horrible. I'll be interested to hear this myself.
Speaker 1: Because I'm one of those people. I put a little
Speaker 1: bit more weight on that he won't call though probably not,
Speaker 1: you know, but I put a little bit more weight
Speaker 1: on that benchmark than say, like Dave doves Dave dismisses it.
Speaker 1: Go it's always gonna drop fifty cent or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And that's understandable, but it's also shows you that, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is how many people at least one time. That's
Speaker 1: always the goal that you're going to shoot for. And
Speaker 1: obviously there's little things here and there, and for right now,
Speaker 1: a W I think you know, their number is a million,
Speaker 1: and when he comes to w W E, when he
Speaker 1: comes to RAW, I mean, what's their number one point
Speaker 1: four million at this point, one point five million, one
Speaker 1: point six million. And you know, it's not that dramatically different.
Speaker 1: Now SmackDown obviously is different being on the Fox network.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I I just think, if that's what
Speaker 1: you're gonna try to call in and use as the
Speaker 1: reason that Dynamite sucks, like that's the best you got.
Speaker 1: Don't bother calling in? Really, you know, he could text
Speaker 1: an email as well. Briant Wrestling observation because it makes
Speaker 1: it a lot more pain zo seven five six six.
Speaker 1: I stepped on the number. Give it again four to
Speaker 1: five seven eight zero seven five six six. I'll read
Speaker 1: it verbatim unless you swear. I can't to do that. No, No,
Speaker 1: let's see the first hour of the show one point
Speaker 1: three eight million viewers, second hour rose to one point
Speaker 1: four five million, and then UH tumbled again at UH
Speaker 1: one point three four million viewers. So those are the
Speaker 1: raw numbers for for Monday. And keep in mind, I
Speaker 1: mean same, same deal could happen with Dynamite, happened with
Speaker 1: the rampage and SmackDown last week because the Olympics are
Speaker 1: a powerhouse. I haven't actually checked how the Olympics are here.
Speaker 1: I hear their way down in viewership, is that right?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. It's not a clue we actually
Speaker 1: are for me because I'm not watching the hockey and
Speaker 1: that's usually the only thing I watch. Alrighty w W
Speaker 1: revealed when this year's Women's Dusty Classic will be kicking off.
Speaker 1: U last night's at X T, it was announced the
Speaker 1: Women's Dusty roodse At Tag Team Classic would begin in
Speaker 1: two weeks. I feel like I've heard that before and
Speaker 1: I see will be back on USA that night after
Speaker 1: two straight weeks of airing on Sci Fi. So yeah,
Speaker 1: n x T on Sci Fi yesterday. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: that number in about thirty minutes. Maybe this bloc will
Speaker 1: talk about how great that number is. Well, he's at it.
Speaker 1: List of teams will take part of the Women's Dusty
Speaker 1: Classic if yet to be announced for Kell Gonzals in Court,
Speaker 1: jade Eo Shrii and Kaylee Ray and Lyssa Leone and
Speaker 1: Valentina Ferraz have been set up as three of the
Speaker 1: teams that will be taking part in the tournament. It's
Speaker 1: always starting, of course, is out of action this story.
Speaker 1: Should I do the I'll do the n x T
Speaker 1: report after the break. Might need a little bit of
Speaker 1: time ample time. This show is is is funny and bad,
Speaker 1: although I do, uh, there are things that are Memphis show.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's funny too. I'll talk about
Speaker 1: the Creed Brothers. They're great. Okay, here's the thing with
Speaker 1: these Creed brothers. So we got Julius and Brutus. They
Speaker 1: should have been part of our toga party last night,
Speaker 1: by the way, and uh so, uh if I recall
Speaker 1: correctly here correct me if I'm wrong. Julius is the
Speaker 1: taller one, right, and Brutus is the short, stocky one.
Speaker 1: Is that right? Okay? So uh, I watched the show,
Speaker 1: and and maybe Dave was confused or maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: He says that they are very high on Julius. He's
Speaker 1: the taller one, okay, And I you know, they do
Speaker 1: like guys that are tall and everything like that. But man,
Speaker 1: I watched these two guys, and man, I am so
Speaker 1: much more into Brutus than Julius. Like Julius is fine
Speaker 1: and all, but but of the two of them, Julius
Speaker 1: is the one that looks like he's gonna kill somebody.
Speaker 1: And he's also like he's tall and all, but he's
Speaker 1: he's you know, I don't want to say he doesn't
Speaker 1: he's kind of Yankee. He's kind of a tall, lanky,
Speaker 1: normal looking guy to me. And Brutus, I mean, he
Speaker 1: puts the brute in Brutus. This guy is a thick, powerful,
Speaker 1: mean looking you know. I just think that he's got
Speaker 1: way more upset at this point, and he and Julius
Speaker 1: looks more green than his brother. Like when I see
Speaker 1: the two of them in there, I feel like Julius
Speaker 1: is the one that needs way more work than than
Speaker 1: Brutus does. But they're a fun team when they're in
Speaker 1: there with guys that can like carry them to a
Speaker 1: good match. You put them with two guys that are
Speaker 1: also green, and it's just like the wrong kind of violence.
Speaker 1: You know, something's gonna get killed. But that's it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I believe every single thing that they are doing everything.
Speaker 1: When they fall out of the ring on their heads,
Speaker 1: in the top of you know, on their necks, I
Speaker 1: believe that when they are thumping around they were doing
Speaker 1: the deal with the knees. I thought that was a
Speaker 1: great spot, you know, the back and forth with delivering
Speaker 1: the knees and the guy rolls over. I I thought
Speaker 1: that was awesome. I think they're great. And they are
Speaker 1: again that old expression of puppies with big paws, both
Speaker 1: of them and I. And it's unfortunate that we're already
Speaker 1: hearing that they are favoring one over another, because it's
Speaker 1: just to me, it's like the USOS. You just put
Speaker 1: these two guys together of the Steiners for as long
Speaker 1: as you possibly can, because the mileage you can get
Speaker 1: out of them as a team is I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's infinite. But I mean, we've seen this formula work
Speaker 1: and pro wrestling for a gazillion years. With two meat
Speaker 1: head brothers out there just recking shop on people, I
Speaker 1: think it's great. All right, Well, let's do some of
Speaker 1: the feedback here and then we'll go into this. Uh
Speaker 1: this deal here is full n x T review in
Speaker 1: a in a moment. That's all the major news. By
Speaker 1: the way, today, we're just waiting to find out what
Speaker 1: happens on Dynamite, So uh, let's see what we got.
Speaker 1: Any scoops or hints on the ADEP I should read
Speaker 1: him before I read him. Do you have it? It's
Speaker 1: two now listen if you missed the first part of
Speaker 1: the show, I believe I believe it is. Keith Lee
Speaker 1: and Jay wat will be debuting on the show here tonight.
Speaker 1: And I know that you know, some people are are
Speaker 1: up in arms about this term forbidden door, and h
Speaker 1: Keith Lee is not walking through a forbidden door. You
Speaker 1: not fired from the other place, Isn't that? I think
Speaker 1: Tony just like the term forbidden door was used a lot,
Speaker 1: and so he appropriated it and he's going to use it. Obviously.
Speaker 1: Keith Lee is not stepping through any forbidden door. And obviously,
Speaker 1: now that they're working with New Japan, it's not really
Speaker 1: a forbidden door anymore. But I believe that Ja White
Speaker 1: coming in would be considered stepping through his idea of
Speaker 1: the forbidden door. And uh and Keith Lee, you know
Speaker 1: I don't get to hang up hung up on these words.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, does anyone ex expect
Speaker 1: that someone under contract with w w E's coming in
Speaker 1: because they're not gonna No one from w w E. Ali,
Speaker 1: You know what I'll tell you, No one from a
Speaker 1: W is gonna be in this year's Royal rumble? Are
Speaker 1: you sure I'm gonna be like that guy last year
Speaker 1: that did this prediction of something that had already occurred.
Speaker 1: He didn't win, by the way the voyagers that prediction
Speaker 1: contest I did. I won. I was the winner. It's
Speaker 1: right now, d O U c H. You can do
Speaker 1: a prediction contest and people claim that you rigged predicting
Speaker 1: the future. You can't do that. I accurately predicted the
Speaker 1: future better than anybody, and so I'm the winner. If
Speaker 1: you don't like it, you predict the future. I've only
Speaker 1: won once you've sullied this whole process and a trophy.
Speaker 1: I mean honorable people like myself, Tara Jim in Virginia.
Speaker 1: I mean we were past winners and we you know,
Speaker 1: we really brought that honor up and raised it up
Speaker 1: for the people. Now Here, you come bastardizing the whole thing.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about appropriation. Here, you just come
Speaker 1: in wanting to do something so you could buy yourself
Speaker 1: some more gold. That The fact of the matter, Mike
Speaker 1: is if I were really like not fair or unfairly rigging,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have won last year. But you did. So
Speaker 1: that's everything everybody needs to know about how fair this contest.
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to do is award you
Speaker 1: with a plaque. But I did because I'm a fair man,
Speaker 1: I'm undeniable, and I put it up to a vote
Speaker 1: and I was the winner. On your Twitter, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: worst place for me to put a poll on whether
Speaker 1: or not I should win. This person says a lack
Speaker 1: of a card als for Dynamite adds to the spookiness
Speaker 1: and mystik of the show. This person says, what is
Speaker 1: going on, well, spookiness and mystique. Yeah, spooky is a
Speaker 1: mystique for tonight. The person says, of course they beat
Speaker 1: Malik Blade and Dress and No in the semis when
Speaker 1: they could have gone on to win the whole tournament. Listen,
Speaker 1: I love those two guys. They should not have won
Speaker 1: that tournament. They were fine last night. They were carried
Speaker 1: all right, but they are green and going as far
Speaker 1: as they went is fine. And uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: bigger issue with them being geeks is like there's so
Speaker 1: many geeks on this show in terms of like, you know,
Speaker 1: they can't ask out anybody on a date. They're just
Speaker 1: too nervous. And then on top of that, either j
Speaker 1: B or b J whichever one is, is horrible with women.
Speaker 1: He's also poor. They added that last night, can you
Speaker 1: believe it? Getting them ready for the man roster back
Speaker 1: in a moment with more Observer Live already, let's talk
Speaker 1: about this n x T at two points. Oh show
Speaker 1: last night on sci Fi so no pup with the
Speaker 1: Creed Brothers and the Grizzly Young Vets. We talked about this.
Speaker 1: I had fun watching this match. Grizzled Young Vets are
Speaker 1: a fun team, and Creed Brothers, I mean, as I said,
Speaker 1: they can be they can be carried to a degree.
Speaker 1: It's not like gonna be a four star match or
Speaker 1: anything like that, but it's gonna be fun. And uh,
Speaker 1: Brutus pinned Gibson with his sliding D which they don't
Speaker 1: call the sliding D. I don't know why. So that
Speaker 1: was that. Then we had a core Jade interview and
Speaker 1: she's with Raquel and Valentina Ferraz and Ulyssa Leone interrupt
Speaker 1: and uh, the three women that could speak Spanish start
Speaker 1: yelling each other in Spanish, but core Jay doesn't speak Spanish,
Speaker 1: so she's just baffled. And it ends with Raquel saying
Speaker 1: something like, I can't believe they said that about you,
Speaker 1: and then she walks off. Of course that's what they
Speaker 1: say about me. It was wacky. We had Tiffany Stratton
Speaker 1: versus Wendy Chew and it was not as bad as
Speaker 1: last week, but the fans are still way more into
Speaker 1: Wendy Chew wrestling than pretending that she's sleeping the middle
Speaker 1: of the match and tripping to Tiffany Stratton beat her.
Speaker 1: They're just doing a match and she did like a
Speaker 1: twisting splash deal and Pinder it was like there was
Speaker 1: no bill to it. There was no near falls. It
Speaker 1: was just she beat her. So it's like you have
Speaker 1: a Vader Bomb with a barrel roll. It was weird.
Speaker 1: It was just a full twisting Vader bomb. But I
Speaker 1: mean just a full twisting Vader bomb. Dude. She was
Speaker 1: she was all right, lever he was a high level gymnast.
Speaker 1: You could do that or sleep. It was a single twist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've dude. They did have vign Yetta. Her father paid
Speaker 1: for to be an Olympic gymnast. Of course they know that. Again,
Speaker 1: don't look. I don't know if don't get all like that.
Speaker 1: It's just it was a cool looking move. I mean,
Speaker 1: if nothing else that was, that was a cool looking
Speaker 1: finishing move. We had Pete Donne meeting Draco Anthony. Holy smokes,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about guy's not ready to be
Speaker 1: on television, Draco Anthony and he was in there with
Speaker 1: Pete Dunne just preponderously green. Is that a word? He
Speaker 1: was very green? And so he won and then we
Speaker 1: had the interview or the segment afterwards with uh Tony
Speaker 1: D'Angelo coming in, tried to attack him and lung story short.
Speaker 1: Next week, they're not only having a cage match, but
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a weaponized cage match, which means there's
Speaker 1: weapons in the cage. It's weaponized hat on a hat.
Speaker 1: But you know what, in the case of Tony D'Angelo,
Speaker 1: that's the best thing you can do. I mean, you
Speaker 1: hide him with as many gimmicks as possible, and you
Speaker 1: put him in there with a great wrestler in Pete Donne.
Speaker 1: So I mean, this is the best you can do
Speaker 1: is to have him tried to learn on the fly.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about a little bit later on with MSK
Speaker 1: getting the win and how that goes on to actually
Speaker 1: really help the Creed Brothers winner losing that Dusty final. First,
Speaker 1: here says Draco is listening right now with a tear
Speaker 1: in his eye. Bro, this is nothing against Draco. Why
Speaker 1: do why do people always get mad at me if
Speaker 1: I say someone's green, Like, what do you expect him
Speaker 1: to be? I think he's had like whatever. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's green. It doesn't mean he's a bad person or
Speaker 1: or like he shouldn't be employed. It just means he
Speaker 1: needs more in ring and he shouldn't be on TV yet.
Speaker 1: And Bro, when I had three matches, I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to be on National TV either hell night. And speaking
Speaker 1: of Green Songa, guys seen Songa. What was the woman's
Speaker 1: name that had the match last week that I was
Speaker 1: just laughing and I begged you all to go watch
Speaker 1: the match? What's her name? Somebody on the chat alert me. Anyway,
Speaker 1: this guy is the male version of whatever. Not not
Speaker 1: Rhonda Rousey, you geeks. Someone just mentioned her name a
Speaker 1: little earlier here. Anyway, you wanna know you want me
Speaker 1: to describe Songa. Do you guys haven't seen Songa? Yeah? Okay, No,
Speaker 1: she was on n x T last week and she
Speaker 1: was all Kayla Inlay, thank you. This is the male
Speaker 1: version of Kayla Inlay. Okay, So do you want me
Speaker 1: to describe SONGA? Imagine a very green bron Stroman. That's Sana.
Speaker 1: He is big and he's short term fast, you know,
Speaker 1: like you know if if short term fast. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: like if quick explosive bursts. Basically like if you if
Speaker 1: you saw, if you saw bron Stroman, what he had
Speaker 1: to like go from the middle of the ring to
Speaker 1: the corner. He could sprint really fast, but if they
Speaker 1: made him do that run around the ring, like he
Speaker 1: wasn't moving very fast and he didn't look very athletic.
Speaker 1: This Songa is is good in short berths and like
Speaker 1: he works exactly like Stroman, except a totally green and
Speaker 1: over the top version of bron Stroman. And I was
Speaker 1: I listen, it's w W E so I couldn't even
Speaker 1: blee my eyes. L A. Night beat him, pinned him
Speaker 1: in the middle of the ring. For football terms, he
Speaker 1: comes off the ball quickly, so he he pinned him,
Speaker 1: and then Grace and Waller tried to sneak attack and
Speaker 1: Night avoided it. And uh, there you go. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be They're gonna be feuding. But man, I like, I
Speaker 1: see a guy like Songa and I just have my
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon brain on and it's like they're they're gonna
Speaker 1: d cue the guy or do a count out or
Speaker 1: something like that. But nope, it got pinned. It's like
Speaker 1: when Big Show showed up in in w W E
Speaker 1: and Vince, you know, oh this soup, this big what
Speaker 1: was this? The Giant is giant? They don't know a
Speaker 1: book a Giant. I'm gonna book him like Andre the Giant.
Speaker 1: Three weeks in Steve Buson pined him in the middle
Speaker 1: of the ring. Yeah, well we had this is a storyline.
Speaker 1: Remember we were talking about how they want women viewers
Speaker 1: and so like they do, like they got like nine
Speaker 1: romance storylines going on. So Duke Hudson doesn't interview, and uh,
Speaker 1: what's Indeed's partner's name, Pera Persia Parada. So Persia Parada
Speaker 1: likes Duke Hudson, thinks he's a handsome man. So Duke
Speaker 1: Cutson does his interview and then he paused, and he
Speaker 1: comes back and he goes, I just want to wish
Speaker 1: Indie luck in the Dusty Classic, not Persia Indie. This
Speaker 1: leads to a kerfluffle later. So we had this Championship summit.
Speaker 1: We've got braun Breaker out there with Santos Escobar and
Speaker 1: they're kind of going back and forth because I got
Speaker 1: a championship match next week, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: whose music should hit? But Dolf Ziggler. And Ziggler comes
Speaker 1: down to the ring and he sits in a chair,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know I've mentioned before I do this
Speaker 1: for a living, but I stay off Twitter as much
Speaker 1: as I can. Well, to my dismay, apparently I've missed
Speaker 1: like a week's worth of storylines by not going on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Ziggler starts cutting a promo about what braun Breaker has
Speaker 1: said about him on Twitter, and I'm I am lost.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what's going on with braun Breaker
Speaker 1: and Dolph Ziggler on Twitter. So they're having this conversation
Speaker 1: that's in like you know, some other parallel universe, and
Speaker 1: I'm just baffled. But apparently braun Breaker has been saying
Speaker 1: things about Ziggler on Twitter, and so now Ziggler has
Speaker 1: shown up and he's mad about it. So now Ziggler
Speaker 1: and braun Breaker having this conversation for Santos Escobar standing
Speaker 1: there like a dork like yeah, So I'm flabbergasted, and
Speaker 1: then uh so, finally Chompa comes out, and now Chompa
Speaker 1: is arguing with Ziggler and finally Santos Santa because what
Speaker 1: is happening here. I'm the guy who got a championship
Speaker 1: match next week, and so this, I mean, the fans
Speaker 1: were in his Ziggler because like, you know, a guy
Speaker 1: from up there blessed these blokes with his presence. But
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Ziggler was good and all. I
Speaker 1: have nothing against Ziggler's performance, but I just, you know,
Speaker 1: all this Lance Archer tonight and all this talk about
Speaker 1: how Lance Archer needs to get a win and you know,
Speaker 1: be dombin poor talk about making this guy do a geek.
Speaker 1: I mean, Santos Escobar came off as such a geek
Speaker 1: in this segment. And it looks like we're gonna have
Speaker 1: Chompa versus Ziggler I guess down the road and h
Speaker 1: Escobar and braun Breaker in a match that like no
Speaker 1: one on the planet thinks Escobar has a chance in,
Speaker 1: even less so after the go home segment. So I
Speaker 1: don't know about that one. So I beat Kota Kai,
Speaker 1: just dropped her on her head neck with the suplex
Speaker 1: and pinders. She killed her. We had a segment with
Speaker 1: Carmelo Hayes and Trick Williams in a barber shop, you know,
Speaker 1: talking about how cool they are and all that. There's
Speaker 1: something else we had G G and j C backstage. Well,
Speaker 1: first Indian Persia. This is just so wacky. So this
Speaker 1: is another one that maybe maybe I'm missing something on
Speaker 1: social media again, but Indian Persia backstage, and Persia is
Speaker 1: upset that her man, her wanna be man, said good
Speaker 1: luck to Indie but not herself, and Indy's trying to
Speaker 1: you know whatever. So then g G and j C
Speaker 1: show up and they have a photo that was taken
Speaker 1: some time ago, I guess of Indie Heartwell and Duke
Speaker 1: Hudson together like a sporting event or something like that.
Speaker 1: So they're trying to make it out like, oh, Indie, actually,
Speaker 1: you know, she's closer to this guy than than Persia thinks,
Speaker 1: and maybe more than her husband thinks as well. And
Speaker 1: then a brawl breaks out, and this show is just
Speaker 1: it's like a soap opera, and not necessarily a great one.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily well, I don't watch soap operas, so it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to I can't fairly say it's better
Speaker 1: or worse. I don't watch Young and the Restless or
Speaker 1: anything like that, not this pretty good one. Anyway. Look,
Speaker 1: it's like a big budget remedial nineties style Memphis show.
Speaker 1: You got some people on there, Yeah, the Young and
Speaker 1: the Wrestlers. That should be the name of this show.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Somebody trademark that. It's like Forbidden Door.
Speaker 1: Has anybody trademark that yet? The t K do that one?
Speaker 1: But hey, I they really sacrificed, you know, Santos to
Speaker 1: get to that you know, jump start chomp On Ziggler
Speaker 1: and put them in the mix with bron break or
Speaker 1: I I don't know, I do you think this is
Speaker 1: really all going to lead basically to a four way?
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know, but you know you're
Speaker 1: you know, you're a geek and I love listen. I
Speaker 1: say he's a geek because in the storyline he's a geek,
Speaker 1: but like, I'm the biggest fan of Santos Escobar and
Speaker 1: that's actually why I'm so mad about it. But you
Speaker 1: know you're a geek when you're the number one contender
Speaker 1: for the guy's title and another guy walks out and
Speaker 1: immediately the fans start channing triple threat because they'd rather
Speaker 1: see the other guy in the match, And then the
Speaker 1: other guy comes out Chompa and now they're chanting for
Speaker 1: a fatal four way, So go Lee, Well, can you
Speaker 1: imagine I gotta I gotta nitpick this is more or
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send the put up the landstorm stern face
Speaker 1: bat signal because during that first matches where it really
Speaker 1: stood out to me, but it was driving me nuts
Speaker 1: the referees. You know, you got that spot where they
Speaker 1: put Cass with what's his wrestling creed under the ring
Speaker 1: and they do the deal where they yank him up
Speaker 1: and he hits his neck on the steel underneath the
Speaker 1: ring and they throw him back in and you know,
Speaker 1: they throw a chin lock on him where it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's choking them. But I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: referee and the referees just dancing around arms and it's like,
Speaker 1: I know it's a lost art, but it's like, can
Speaker 1: you just try to check the can you do that please?
Speaker 1: And this is it? I know, it's not only there,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much everywhere. I mean, main event. Bryce Remsburg
Speaker 1: is great, you know, I did, uh what's her name,
Speaker 1: Aubrey Edwards? I think is great, you know, but I
Speaker 1: this is I know, it's a small thing. And when
Speaker 1: you were looking at the wrestlers and some of the
Speaker 1: things that they screw up on, to me, it's again
Speaker 1: it's like guys not being developed to be good wrestlers.
Speaker 1: Referees aren't being developed to be believable in the least.
Speaker 1: You know, had referee the referee coach was fired, they
Speaker 1: had a referee coach. Well, let me finish this real quick.
Speaker 1: MSK beat Edressenope and Mullike Blade. This is a good match,
Speaker 1: although it was all God bless him. Msk Edres and
Speaker 1: Molly can do some cool spots, but they are green.
Speaker 1: But I still I still enjoyed myself watching this match.
Speaker 1: And then Mandy Rose Kaylee Ray, I mean, Mandy Rose
Speaker 1: does the match and uh, Dolan and j C distract
Speaker 1: the wrath Mandy knee strike just pinzer in the middle
Speaker 1: of the ring. How's it very? Uh? It was very
Speaker 1: uh anticlimactic. And then EO Shia ran in, So she's
Speaker 1: gonna be teaming with Kaylee Ray and the Women's destin
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