1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, and welcome to this special edition free Agency 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: edition of Between the Hornsime Cameron Irwin, one of the 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: hosts for the Los Angeles Rams, those Super Bowl champions. 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: Of course, we've had a little bit of a wild 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: off season. As soon as you win a championship, values 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: go up, and naturally you lose and gain some different pieces. 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: And so today I've got the whole crew with me. 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: I've got the voice of the Rams, JV Long, and 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: of course there they are. There's a Bottley crew off airs, 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: de Marco Laughing as well, a Super Bowl champion, and 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Maurice Jones drew three time All Pro and Pro bowler 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: and running back. So it's time to get to it. 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: And guys, there's been a lot happening since free agency, 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: and I feel like we kind of just need to 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: go from top to bottom, start with what happened first, 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna be how about the offensive 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: line signing Brian Allen and I know Note Boom, that's 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: one that every one has kind of been king in on. 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: So JB, I'm gonna head to you to start off, 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: what does it mean for this offensive line? As soon 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: as you have the signings of note Boom and Alan 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: just a little bit of solidification, especially after the retirement 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: of our loved, loved Andrew Witworth. First, Cameron, let me 24 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: ask it seems like you stayed at a Holiday and 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: Express last night, So congratulations to ball Stream you're hosting credentials. 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: I did stay at a Holiday and Express last night. Yeah, 27 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: the late flight really has this beautiful background. I'm gonna 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: just got my wifi's working, y'all. Nice we are too, 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: and uh to my man m J D. I'm glad 30 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: we got this in before your thirty seventh birthday. Happy 31 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: bathday week. Oh thank you. Yeah, it's coming, it's coming. 32 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: Welcome your family, rewarding you this week at home. Uh JB. Well, 33 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: today's my daughter's day. So I had like seven girls 34 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: over here slumber party. They just went to the mall 35 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: to spend money, and now I'm here with my boys. 36 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: Is I have dogs barking, trying to get like lunch 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: scraped together real quick. You know, life is, life is 38 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: could be better, But we're gonna we're gonna figure it out. 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna figure this old dad thing out 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: as we get going thirty seven. I hope there's a 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: lot of dad material for me to learn. Think of 42 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: speaking of down material before we get to this offensive line. 43 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: I think JB, you may have had a contract extension. 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: Are you calling so on play by play for a 45 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: little league? I feel like that's what I saw. Yeah, 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: that's right. The Iron Birds had me on the PA 47 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: system over the weekend. I had my choice between that 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: or a two hour snack shack shift, So that was 49 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: a pretty pretty easy choice. I know my skill set 50 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: and I stayed in my lane, so it didn't embarrass 51 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: my five year old too badly, I hope. But yeah, 52 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: it's your original question, Cameron. I think makes sense to 53 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: start with the offensive line if I remember, it's kind 54 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: of where we finished off our most recent episode between 55 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: the Horns talking about the Rams made on themselves internally 56 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: not addressing that position group through free agency or the 57 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: draft last season, saying we have the group, not only 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: the starting five, but the backups we need to pursue 59 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: a championship. And they did, and I was impressed with 60 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: how Brian Allen would not take no for an answer 61 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: and won that starting center job back in training camp. 62 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: But I think that redirected a lot of the directions 63 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: the Rams went offensively from that point forward. But everything 64 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: I know says that Sean mcfay loves them and that 65 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford loves them, and the other people in that 66 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: room due too, So I'm not surprised that he's back 67 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: is kind of the centerpiece for that offense. And then 68 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth moving on is I think a move that 69 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: we all anticipated. It's too bad that it had to 70 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: happen at this juncture, but it could not have happened 71 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: in a better way, with him defeating the team that 72 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: drafted him in the Super Bowl as the Walter Peyton 73 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: Man of the Year as the first four year old 74 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: to start on the offensive line at left tackle in 75 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: that championship season. So hats off Andrew Whitworth. We will 76 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: always remember you as one of the most important free 77 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: agent signings and franchise history. Yeah, you gotta love it. 78 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: And as you look through, so Brian Allen three year deal, 79 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: Joe note Boom three year deal, and then also Coleman 80 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: Shelton picking up a two year deal as well, So 81 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: a little bit more in terms of filling out that 82 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: offensive line. And so I'm actually going to go to 83 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: MJD here when you're looking at some pieces moving around 84 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: and that solidification of the line. I mean, what does 85 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: that mean in terms of an offense to be able 86 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: to set up a scheme and have that kind of 87 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: If it ain't broke, don't fix it, especially with Brian 88 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: Allen's return. Well, I think it's the cohesiveness, right. You 89 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: want the same voice, the same voices in the room. 90 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: So you want the quarterback, you want the center. The 91 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: center one is the one who's going to kind of 92 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: direct the protections and get the word out from inside out, right, 93 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: So he's going to tell the tackle where he's sliding to, 94 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: as Matthew Stafford points out to where the protection shou start. 95 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: So I think that's important. And it's always tough to 96 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: have to bring in a new center teach him the 97 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: offense understand where Matthew Stafford, that's what he doesn't like. 98 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: When you have a guy there that did, you're comfortable 99 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: with and that has done a really good job, you 100 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: keep him. Um. I think what noteboom note is the 101 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: most important signing and and this is why for the 102 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: last couple of years, when Andrew Witworth has gotten hurt, 103 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: note Joe Nobom has come in and played and done 104 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: an awesome job. I mean it was a stretch not 105 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: this year, but the last year into twenty twenty where 106 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: we didn't hear it, Like we didn't call his name 107 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: at all for like three or four games. Jabe, you 108 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: remember that, And it was kind of like, Oh, this 109 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: dude has been playing. If you're not calling his name, 110 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: he's not giving up sacks, He's getting where he needs 111 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: to get to. That that's what you want. And then 112 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: we saw it again last year, and so I think 113 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: he's he's earned the right to um excause he's earned 114 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: the right to get this contract, and that it was 115 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 1: time for him to solidify his spot at left tackle 116 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: on how he's been and being able to get the 117 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: recognition that he deserves, which is good. I think he 118 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: was a much better run blocker than Andrew Witworth was 119 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: at the end of his career. When he first got here, 120 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: Andrew was a steamroller. I think towards the end he 121 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: kind of certain certain things go with you as you 122 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: get older. That's what happened. They leave right. He was 123 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: one of the better pass blockers, but Joe No Boom 124 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: was able to create a separation in space in the 125 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: running game, So you just should expect the running game 126 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: to be a little bit better this season. And another 127 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: thing is he did a really good job of blocking 128 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: these top pass rushers. Now the NFC has lost a lot, 129 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: the NFC West has lost a lot of pass rushers. 130 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: So if you're the Rams, keeping your guys and keeping 131 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: this offensive line attack should definitely help you go on forward. 132 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: And now I know you guys have talked about note 133 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: Boom and how he's been on the roster for the 134 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: last four years. Excuse you, I'm sorry, but one of 135 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: the interesting elements is you talk about the experience he's 136 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: gained and you actually, if you've got a chance to 137 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: listen to the pressers from No Boom as well as 138 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: Brian Allen this morning, there was a lot of conversation 139 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: about confidence that has been built. Even if we haven't 140 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: seen note Boom on the field with extensive numbers of reps, 141 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: he's built kind of a body of work and this 142 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: confidence having trained Underworth. So what is what should be 143 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: the expectation for him? And I'll come to you, DeMarco, 144 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: what should be the expectation for Boom heading into the season. Well, 145 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 1: he's ready. I was just looking up all the coaches 146 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: he had go back to Aaron Cromer, Andy Dickerson, who 147 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: was here, who's up in Seattle now, Now Kevin Carberry 148 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: steps in. So they've all done a fantastic job of 149 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: getting him ready. He is ready for this. If he's 150 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: not ready for it now, you're never gonna be. But 151 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,119 Speaker 1: the only thing that gives me pause is you can't 152 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: replace a guy like Andrew Whitworth. It's just it's not 153 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: gonna happen. You may be able to replace him athletically, 154 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: and I think Joseph Noteboom at this stage of his 155 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: career might be a better athlete and has a chance 156 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: to be as good as Wit. If you keep getting 157 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: those reps in and not miss days, you keep yourself healthy. 158 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: But just that leadership presence, that leadership coming from the 159 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: left tackle. Remember during the games, guys, you could see 160 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth. He was the only player that I saw 161 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: go back at Sean McVay while the game is on 162 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: your way, given him the come on man, speed it up, 163 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: or let's run the ball given a flex So that's 164 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: gonna be tough to replace. But physically, athletically above the neck, 165 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: I have no doubts. Joseph Noe Boom is ready for this. 166 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Like Maurice said, Ben, when we went in there to 167 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: you know, sub for Andrew Whitworth, there was no drop 168 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: off and there were some things that you might have 169 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: liked better with him in there. So I'm expecting big 170 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: things out of him. And I like the way you 171 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: phrased that JB about Brian Allen. Here's the guy that 172 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: everybody tried to write off and he just wouldn't go 173 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: away and became one of your best linemen towards the 174 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: end of the year. It actually led you sometimes so 175 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: that that contract was well earned and well deserved. But 176 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: to answer the note Boom question, Oh, he's absolutely ready 177 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: for this. There's nothing he hasn't seen. He's been coached 178 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: by the best, and he saw one of the best 179 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: to ever do it, you know, playing right in front 180 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: of him. So he is definitely ready to protect one 181 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty million dollar quarterback well, and that's obviously 182 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: the primary job, right And of course we we would 183 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: be remiss to not to mention the extension of Matthew 184 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: Stafford a four a year deal. And it's been intriguing 185 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: to me. You there's always been this station with the 186 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: Los Angeles rams that it's win and win now. However, 187 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: with this extension, is that evolution changing, Is that conversation changing? 188 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: And I'll go to you, JB. Is it just about 189 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: winning now or is about building something maybe a dynasty 190 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles? Yes, it's the NFL. It's always 191 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: about winning now. And when you have this nucleus from 192 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: front office and leadership and ownership down through the players 193 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: and the quarterback and the skill set that this group has, 194 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: they're very much a contender and maybe even a favorite 195 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: again in the NFC. I think in twenty twenty two, 196 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: I like how the time horizons seem to align now. Right, 197 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: we knew that Matthew Stafford, if he performed, was going 198 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: to have a chance to be someone who came to 199 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: Los Angeles and rewrote record books over the course of 200 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: what's left of his prime, what's left of his great thirties, 201 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: And now I think he and McVeigh and Cooper Cup 202 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: and some of the new pieces including Joe Noteboom, you 203 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: could see how they have a chance to build on 204 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: what they start and last year was just a starting point. 205 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: Can't imagine a better starting point. But now they have 206 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: a chance to tailor some more things to Matthew Stafford. 207 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: You see just how different the complexion of the offense 208 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: looked in terms of design alignment, play calling with Stafford 209 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: at the control as it was immediately more explosive, more spread, 210 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: more vertical. I think they're just getting to the second 211 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: phase of that, and some other moves, including Alan Robinson 212 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: that we're going to talk about later. I think all 213 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: feed into that now that Matthew Stafford is here from 214 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: more than just the two years that they inherited from Detroit. 215 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: And now I feel like that's a perfect segue. Jav 216 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: thinks so much because as much as you've got the 217 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: guy at the helm, he is there for you for 218 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: the next four years. Now it's about surrounding him with 219 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: some arsenal. And I know we have seen that Robert 220 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: Woods reportedly heading off to the Tennessee Titans, and we're 221 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: still waiting on that obj seeing what's going to happen there. 222 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: But this wide receiver group, there's a little bit of 223 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: some question marks. And I'll start with you at Maurice. 224 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean, what are gonna think that you might think, Hey, 225 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: heading into twenty twenty two, this is what we want 226 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: to see from that wide receiver group. Well, I think this, 227 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: I think the signing of Alan Robinson was was a 228 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: lot that happened with the Super Bowl. Right. If you 229 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: go back, Odell Beckham goes down and then Van Jefferson 230 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: really didn't show up like the way we expected him to. Um, 231 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: he had that that ball where the kind of guy 232 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: that over him, he overran it. Then you had Ben 233 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: Scronik who dropped a couple of passes, right, So it 234 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: was really like Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup. 235 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: So if you're the Rams, you're saying, Okay, you know 236 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: Robert Woods is coming off of acl O'Dell's coming off 237 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: in a cl we need to have someone here that 238 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: we can actually rely on if we need to. Um, 239 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: that's not saying Van Jefferson can't be that going forward. 240 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: Just with that opportunity, he didn't do it. And so 241 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: you go out and you pay Alan Robinson to be 242 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: able to surround and be that fade guy that Odell 243 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: Beckham Junior was the guy that you know when you 244 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: get inside that five yard like, you could throw the fade, 245 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: you could throw the slant. He's a he's a really 246 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: good route runner. He fits in that system. It gives 247 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: you a different element than what you've had. Right, we 248 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: haven't seen and correct me wrong, we haven't seen a 249 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: big receiver like Alan Robinson in this system. We haven't 250 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: seen it. And so I'm I'm excited to see how 251 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna be utilized. He's a terrific route runner, and 252 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: so yeah, you want to continue to put weapons around him. 253 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: But also they've been very strategic too. Right, you lose 254 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: Von Miller and you say, okay, well we have money 255 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: for Von how can we get better as a team. 256 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: We go, we go and get her another receiver. Okay, 257 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: now you have that Robert Woods. Obviously they want to 258 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: do right by Roberts, so they traded him to a contender, 259 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: which is fine, that's awesome, and now you have a 260 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: room to kind of maneuver throughout the draft and if 261 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: you have to pay some other guys later down the road. Now, 262 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to Odell Beckham Junior, the problem is 263 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: he towards ACL so late in the year, obviously at 264 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: the very end of the season, that he's not gonna 265 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: be ready until October November, and that's gonna be you know, 266 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: I think that's when you start to see his time 267 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: ramp up. I think the RAMS are gonna you know, 268 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: obviously they're doing right by and by taking care of 269 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: his rehabbing those type of things, but you want to 270 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: make sure that he's completely health by the time you 271 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: bring him back, so he may have another late season 272 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: running and which to be crazy and if it's for 273 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: the RAMS, it's going to be perfect. And so I 274 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: think this is a challenge to some of the receivers 275 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: at the RAMS have on the roster to show up 276 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: and play better. But also this is also for Matthew Stafford. 277 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: We need to add another weapon around Cooper Cup and 278 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: not just lead on Cooper Cup. Yeah. No, that's a 279 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: great point, especially when you've got the triple Crown winner. 280 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: And there's been a conversation that this room, yet again, 281 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: could be the best wide receiving corps. And I believe 282 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: that it was even asked of Matthew Stafford today and 283 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: one of the pressers, and he said, hey, we've still 284 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: got so much work to do. There's gonna be a 285 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: ton of competition in that room. But I know, JB, 286 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: you've got a chance to catch up with Alan Robinson 287 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: just this morning. I mean, what were some of your 288 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: takeaways from that first conversation. We talk a lot about 289 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: what it means to be a fifty fifty winner, to 290 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: be a jump all specialist, and what his catch radius 291 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: could mean to Matthew Stafford in the next iteration of 292 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: this offense. It's already been said and reported that Matthew 293 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: Stafford will be the best quarterback that he's ever played 294 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: with him without mentioning anything about who he has played with. 295 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: I think at this stage of his career, that's what 296 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: he wants. He wants to go put up big numbers, 297 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: but he wants to put up big numbers on a contender. 298 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: And I think the other part of it is he's 299 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: not just a contested catch winner. He's now in an 300 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: offense that's predicated around concepts that create separation and yards 301 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: after a catch, and I think he's looking forward to 302 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: maybe being in that Sean McVeigh ecosystem as well. Because 303 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: of all the things that it could mean for the 304 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: tenure of this contract. What else stands out One He's 305 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: going to wear the number one, it sounds like, which 306 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: is pretty cool, go back to his high school number. 307 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's of interest to some of our audience. 308 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: But MJD knows Greg Olsen who's returning to the offensive 309 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: coaching staff by way of Jacksonville and the Raiders and 310 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: some other places. I know that's where you connect MJD. 311 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: And Alan was quick to point out that he had 312 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: his best season as a pro with Olie in the room. Yeah. 313 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: I will say this. I think it's always good when 314 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: you go to a place I have a familiar face 315 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: that you can you feel comfortable with. For me, when 316 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: I I went to Oakland, it was only right and 317 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: I got a chance to be in that quarterback room. 318 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: Whenever I had an issue, I can rely on him. 319 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Alan Robinson's gonna have an issue, 320 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: but I think Alan Robinson is gonna be new right 321 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: and he's gonna need to try to find his way 322 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: to fit in and find his niche in this offense. 323 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: Where's it gonna be. I think, oh, Greg Olsen's gonna 324 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: be a great tool for him to use while finding 325 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: that niche to kind of get in there. Because as 326 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: we saw again, you know, I'm gonna say this, this 327 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: offense is predicated off of your quarterback and coverage, and 328 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: certain guys have certain roles right, Um, when you find 329 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: that role, you better embrace it. And I think that's 330 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: what Odell did. That's why he thrives so well. Obviously, 331 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup's role was you know, as Cooper Cups role, 332 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: but even Cam Akers had a role, Bryson Hopkins had 333 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: a role that he embraced, Kendall Bland, everyone had a role. 334 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: When they embrace it, when your time was called, you're 335 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: able to make a play. But he has to understand 336 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: this is what Alan Robinson has understand. Your role is 337 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: not gonna be Alan Robinson the Chicago a couple of 338 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: years ago. That's not your role, right, And I think 339 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: that's what it's gonna It's gonna take a little bit 340 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: of time to understand that, but I think he'll be fine. 341 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: What do you mean run and run for your life? 342 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean two hundred catches in two years 343 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: before you get killed. Cameron. I thought on this passing 344 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: game real quick. I don't know if you're transition to 345 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: defense or not, but I will say that when I 346 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: when I feel this group developing, I don't want to 347 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: overlook the running back position and what I think they're 348 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: gonna mean to this offense through the air. In twenty 349 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: twenty two, and I reflect back on that Super Bowl 350 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: and what it looked like to have Cam Akers and 351 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: Darryl Henderson on the field at the same time. This 352 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: is all about creating matchup stress for defenses, right, And 353 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: whether it's too two out Well getting in the mix, 354 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: or Jacob Harris well whoever else compliments that group, there's 355 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: going to come a point in time where you're looking 356 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: at a linebacker who's not qualified to run with Cam 357 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: Akers or Daryl Henderson, and Matthew Stafford and Sean mcvayh 358 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: have proven that they will go there until you until 359 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: you solve it. JB. You're nice man for mentioning two 360 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: too at Well, but all this is bad for him 361 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: and you know it. But the first thing I thought 362 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: when you bring in Robinson is red zone. And you 363 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: know how McVeigh loves the red zone. And I guess 364 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: the biggest receiver that we've had in this offense was 365 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins. Remember how good he was in the red zone. 366 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: So I don't know if you're gonna be better. I'm 367 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: hurt that Bobby Trees isn't here. I think he was 368 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: the heart and soul, the pulse of year football team 369 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna be hard to replace, like Whitworth, but you 370 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: did get bigger, you did get a little bit longer, 371 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: and you have more of a red zone threat. Didn't 372 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: the Rams finish like fifteenth in the league in red 373 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: zone offense this year? You know McVeagh hates that. So 374 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: if you're looking for an improvement on a Super Bowl team, 375 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl winning offense, it would be in the 376 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: red zone. He is definitely going to help you down there. 377 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins was here or miss, but in the red zone, 378 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: the guy was lights out. So that's where I see 379 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: that impact coming with Robinson. Well, and it's interesting too. 380 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you bring up Robert Woods, and I think 381 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: there was a definitely an emotional reaction only from team 382 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: and stuff, but also the Los Angeles Rams fan base, 383 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: the Ramley That one definitely hitting home. Such a trueheart 384 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: and a ton of leadership coming from that standpoint. But JB, 385 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: to go back to your point, I didn't want to 386 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: breeze over the running back group because that's actually one 387 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: of the areas I think maybe a position group that 388 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: hasn't been talked about enough this offseason that potentially could 389 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: have quite a bit of a level up between cam Akers. 390 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: Darryl Henderson and Sony Michelle is currently a free agent, 391 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: so I'm curious to see what they do there, because 392 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: Sony came in mid season and put up some numbers 393 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: for this crew. I mean, what's the expectation And I'll 394 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: go to mow over here, what's the expectation for this 395 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: running back group? Well? I think you skipped over it 396 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: because the last time we saw him it wasn't good. 397 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: It wasn't a good running game, right. They couldn't really 398 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: run the ball against the Cincinnati Bengals, and so it's 399 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: kind of like, all right, what are we going to do? 400 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: And then you hear the clip of Sha McVay saying 401 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: we're done running the ball, which I mean that was 402 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: like a would When you hear that, it's just like, 403 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't even want to I don't 404 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: even to watch this anymore, you know, But I can 405 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: You know what, Jabe, you know what's so funny. I 406 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: can remember the exact play when it happened. It was 407 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: Sony Michelle on a little die play. I got tackle 408 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: for a loss and I think I looked at you. 409 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, they're not gonna run the ball 410 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: anymore like that was it, you know? And um, but 411 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: what I what I believe is they're gonna find other ways. 412 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: And it may not. I don't know if they're gonna 413 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: bring Sony Michelle back. I don't know how they're gonna 414 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: do it. They're gonna add another piece to this running 415 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: back room. But I think with the explosives of the 416 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: explosiveness of Cam Akers and Daryl Henderson, you have something 417 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: that a lot of teams don't have. You have guys 418 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: that can you come out in two two backs and 419 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: then split them out wide and now you have a 420 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: mismatch somewhere on the field, right and again Jabe talked 421 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: about throwing that go ball to cam Akers and different things. 422 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: Those guys will be there, they'll be really good and 423 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: they were coach really well. Now they have a new 424 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: running back coach, a younger guy who's coming in. Um, 425 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: and you know that's gonna be that's gonna be a 426 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: learning that's always gonna be a learning curve. Because I 427 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: say this as a running back, your running back coach 428 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: has to be able to understand what you feel, right, 429 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: and it's hard to say. And if they always throw 430 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: anyone at running backs. And it's so funny when I 431 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: see like this guy played receiver, he played tight end, 432 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: or he's or whatever it is. But if you don't 433 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: understand how I feel, it's hard for me to communicate 434 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: with you. Right if cam Akers comes back and says, coach, 435 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: I saw this, but I felt that and on tape, 436 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: that might happen, But the coachman said, we the plays 437 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: designed to do this right. And so you want to 438 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: make sure that as a running back coach, and and 439 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: if you want to get this running game going, that 440 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: you understand how your players are gonna run, Your players 441 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: understand how you're gonna coach, and you all are able 442 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: to communicate to keep going forward. I would hate to 443 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: see the Rams do it again where they're like, we're 444 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: not gonna run the ball, even though you have such 445 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: talented runners. And I think again, Sean's donna. He did 446 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: a terrific job late in the year of finding a 447 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: way to get those guys going. But I think this 448 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: room is ready. They may add, like I said, they 449 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: may add another piece, but I think they're ready to 450 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: take off. And they started to take off a little 451 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: bit last year. We saw during the first playoff game 452 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: against the Cardinals. Cam Makers took the game over and 453 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: after that kind of went downhill. So we'll see what 454 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: they do from there. Yes, lots of room for improvement 455 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: and definitely enough potential in that group to see it 456 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: come to fruition in twenty twenty two. Now, I think 457 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: it's time we're going to breeze over tight ends. Johnny 458 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: Munt had the departure from the Los Angeles Rams, but 459 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: we got it. I know, I see you, DeMarco far 460 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: That one hurts a bit, but we're gonna move on 461 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: to defense because we got to get this conversation Roland. 462 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: Let's see the biggest headline, I mean, the departure of 463 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: von Miller, and now everyone's going, where are we going 464 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: to find a pass rusher? Who is that going to be? 465 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: And where is it coming from? So JB, I'll start 466 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: with you, where are we going to find that pressure? Well, 467 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: first of all, von Miller, good on you, nothing but love. 468 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: Thank you for everything that you did to give Los 469 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: Angeles the championship that it was hunting. I believe him 470 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: when he says that he wanted to come back and 471 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: that it felt like breaking up with a loved one. 472 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: But that offer from Buffalo made a lot of sense 473 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: to accepts and I think it makes sense for the 474 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: Ram standpoint to stand pat and not to match that 475 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: and not to chase that. Just to thank von Miller 476 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: for the service time that he did give. And he 477 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: was the best player of the postseason except for those 478 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: critical moments where Aaron Donald stepped up and rose to 479 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: the occasion. But throughout the postseason he was the best 480 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: defender maybe league wide. So good return on investment there. 481 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: Where do they go next, Chris Garrett, come on down 482 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: like you're tops. Now. There's a big void there. You 483 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: could argue it's the biggest void on the team opposite 484 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd, though there are some known quantities like Justin 485 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: Hollins and others. But it's an area where the Rams 486 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: are going to have to grow, and it's probably an 487 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: area the Rams are going to have to address between 488 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: now and training camp or the start of the season 489 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: or the trade deadline. This is a position we've seen 490 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: them go after mid season in recent years, so I 491 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: don't think we have the final solution yet by any means. Yes. 492 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: Also important to note because I know you guys have 493 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: loved Obo throughout his time as a Ram and his 494 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: departure also kind of hits a little bit hard right here, 495 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: we're still looking for somebody to step up into that. 496 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: Do you think this is going to be a problem 497 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: that's addressed, whether it's you know, free agency or the 498 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: draft and J M J D. I saw you, Raydn, 499 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: what you got? I was gonna say when when I 500 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: saw Dante Fowler get released by the Falcons, I was like, 501 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: oh my god, he's coming back right. I felt like 502 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: that was gonna be a great move a guy that 503 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: has sixteen and a half sacks during that time his 504 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: time here in LA. But as that didn't happen, expect 505 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: the Rams to address this in the draft too. There's 506 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: it's a deep it's a deep receiver or d N draft, 507 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: or outside linebacker draft or pass rusher draft if you're 508 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: looking forward, and I know they don't have a pick 509 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: until the third round, but there's still quality talent. As 510 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: we've seen the Rams hit on guys late in the draft, 511 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: so expect them to address this multiple ways. They may 512 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: find guys like they did Justin Hollins right who gets 513 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: released from the Denver Broncos. You're able to bring them 514 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: over we see that a lot in that that last 515 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: week of the preseason where guys are getting released. They 516 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: may address it there, but to me this is it's 517 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: it's important to have someone that you can count on. Right, 518 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: Von Miller was the is the cream of the crop 519 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: at that position, and we saw how important it was, 520 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: how he was just beating one on ones left and right, 521 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: and really how it opened up a lot for everyone 522 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: else right to have Leonard Floyd, him and Aaron Donald 523 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on offenses. So for me, 524 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: it isn't an important one, and I expect the Rams 525 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: to try to address it a couple a couple of 526 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: different ways. All right, I'm going to shift us onto 527 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: the interior. So DeMarco, I'm coming at your direction and 528 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: I'm just looking through what we've got. We've got Greg Gaines. 529 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: He will be an excuse me and understood free agent 530 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, so we get to retain him 531 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: at least one more year. And then obviously everyone's been 532 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: wondering what's going on with a d I mean the 533 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: ability to have him and what he is able to 534 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: do in terms of applying pressure. I mean, there's nobody 535 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: better than him, and it's so fun. If you look 536 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: through the BFF grades, it's like it's just astronomical what 537 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: he's been able to do. But what are the things 538 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: that maybe stick out? Because I know Sebastian Joseph Day 539 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: also signed a three year deal, I think just across 540 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: the way or maybe stadium on over to the Chargers. 541 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: But what's the expectation for this group? Every time I 542 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: see that highlight from the Super Bowl, I just feel 543 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: so bad for that dude. His mom, his dad saw that. 544 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: Just get just beasted in the biggest game of your life, 545 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: and you just get beasted. But look he does that 546 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: to everybody. So I'm with you, guys. Man. I'm so 547 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: happy for von Miller and I'm so appreciative of what 548 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: he gave this football team, this city. But look the 549 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: coverd ain't better. Man, you still got this guy coming back. 550 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: I saw Andrew Witworth on TMZ the other days talking 551 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: about Ana Donald coming back to play football. That's the 552 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: same thing I said. I mean, once the euphoria wears 553 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: off of being a champion, he's gonna get that hunger again. 554 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: It's more than about rings. This guy is about legacy. 555 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: So he still has more to do he still has 556 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: more he wants to do, so he'll be back. So 557 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: but to replace a von Miller or to find that 558 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: other outside linebacker, you're gonna have to throw some bodies 559 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: at it. The job is open um. You know, see 560 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: if you can claim it and if you can see 561 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: if you can hold it. But it's not like the 562 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: cupboard is bare. And look, don't count out or heat 563 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: Morse with some sort of scheme, flip or fit, because 564 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: if you can't find the right outside linebacker for the job, 565 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: then so be it. If you've got more defensive ends 566 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: than you do have outside linebacker's guess what, you're gonna 567 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: be playing a lot of four down stuff. But as 568 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: long as you have Floyd, as long as you have 569 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: a d I wouldn't say it doesn't matter who you 570 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: want about there, but it's it's less important to find 571 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: that guy when you still have the guy on your 572 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: defensive line. Tomark, what you've said this before, but now 573 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a future Hall of Famer who 574 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: are talking about benefiting from the Aaron Donald effect. Is 575 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: there any way to work some of Aaron's compensation to 576 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: include like a finder's fee or an agency item for 577 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: the contracts that the Dante Fowlers and the von Miller's 578 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: and the Morgan Foxes of the world benefit from after 579 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: a lining next to him, you know, I mean, that's 580 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: that's something if you're Eron's representation, you just are throwing 581 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: that out there, man. I mean, it's like the we 582 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: talk about the mcbatory hang out with mcbag and a 583 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: head coaching job. Yes, get a big contract. It's there 584 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: should be a line of guys coming this way that 585 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: want to play here in Los Angeles at least. I 586 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: love parties. Heck, yeah, all right, Well that's going to 587 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: be a coveted position heading into twenty twenty two. But 588 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: an area in a position group that I actually find 589 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: a bit intriguing is maybe more so that interior linebacker group. 590 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: And it's a little intriguing. Troy Reader was not tendered, 591 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: and you take a look also Travean Howard though was 592 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: And so I know that's a name, JB. That you 593 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: have thoroughly enjoyed saying multiple times, because this is somebody 594 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: with a ton of potential, not to mention Ernest Jones, 595 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: another that has done some heavy work just in his 596 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: first year. Yeah, I know, they can't wait to have 597 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: Ernest Jones come back through an offseason program in a 598 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: training camp in line to be the starter. The would 599 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: not have won the championship, of course without the clutch 600 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: efforts of Travean Howard. So good to see him back. 601 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: But there are still some other options out there. I'm 602 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: not going to mention them here. I think the comment 603 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: section has already documented them adequately. We'll see whether or 604 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: not any of those pan out, whether or not this 605 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: is another area where they can bolster through the draft, 606 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: or whether it's an area where they continue to cut 607 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: a corner. I'll use the air quotes. They're cut a 608 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: corner in terms of the voting resources, knowing how good 609 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: the defense is around them at just about every other position. Yeah, 610 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: you got it for sure. And Ernest Jones one of 611 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: my favorites. Actually got a chance to talk to him 612 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: one of a postgame and just the humility coming off 613 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: of him, I know, wearing green dot as well. So 614 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: looking forward to what he can put together come this season. 615 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: All right, guys, I feel like we're heading towards the secondary, 616 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: and I would say the other area that most people 617 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: have talked about in terms of meat is at the 618 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: cornerback spot the departure of Darius Williams. So who do 619 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: you think is going to be the number two guy 620 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: next to Jalen Ram. You know what, well, I would 621 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: like to say this. I think that two inside backers 622 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: have done a tremendous job that they kept, Travan Howard 623 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: and Ernest Jones. I thought they've done a great job 624 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: to fit this system. And I think you go with 625 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: your rookie you drafted last year, Rochelle Right, you drafted him. 626 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: You like his length, you like his in potential, his ability. 627 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: It's time to get him reps. So many times we 628 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: try to upgrade to say we need this, we need that, 629 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: when sometimes you have those guys on your roster like 630 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: Darius Williams. Right, there's Williams was an undrafted guy who 631 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: JB and DeMarco we would watch in training camp in 632 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: the first couple of years and he was just a 633 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: guy that made plays. And let's be honest, there's a 634 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: couple of guys that they kept. I want to say 635 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: Peterson was another one that they let go. They end 636 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: up going to Arizona. I mean, they had a They've 637 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: had a lot of dbs on their roster. That they've 638 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: developed in order to play well. I know David Long 639 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: got a lot of playing time and there I expect 640 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: them to play a lot still, But I think it's 641 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: time for your young rookie Rochelle to step up and 642 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: make some plays like he did early in the year. 643 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: We haven't try to find a way to get him 644 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: consistent and get him going. But you have Jalen Ramsey, 645 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: you have Burgess, you have Fuller, you have the guys 646 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: that you've been there as raps still there. You have 647 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: to excuse me if so you haven't. You still have 648 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: the nucleus of guys that have been in that room. 649 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: I if I go elsewhere, is it via draft. I'm 650 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: not going free agency to grab other guys. I know 651 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: I've seen Bobby Wagner out there and everyone's like, we 652 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: gotta go get Bobby. But I think Travian Howards played 653 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: lights out for you, right. He played well. He ended 654 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: that MC championship game. Ernest Jones had tremendous saxon plays 655 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: in this in the Super Bowl. Those guys have earned 656 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: the right to get the chance to start for your 657 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: defense and make plays. And if they don't, then you 658 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: try to acquire some different pieces. But I think this 659 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: young defense and this young nucleus of guys that you 660 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: have that you've drafted or undrafted guys that are playing 661 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: for you, they've earned the right to go out there 662 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: and be on your starting defense. Wouldn't that be funny 663 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: if the Rams did get Bobby Wagner after Sean McVay 664 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: exposed him Seattle time and time again, that would be hilarious. 665 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: But when did your middle linebacker have to lead the deep, 666 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: lead the league in tackles anymore? In today's NFL. Right, 667 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: it's more about coverage, so you can go with smaller 668 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: guys in there. So I'm with you. But corner, I 669 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: mean all the good corners are taken, but I mean 670 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: this one you might have to throw some money at 671 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: or drafting developed. And I did hear some scuttle bud 672 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: on the sideline that Rochelle was nipping at the heels 673 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: of Darius Williams anyway before he got hurt. So I'm 674 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: with you, Maurice. If the guys ready to go, he 675 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: can handle it. If they trust him to go out 676 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: there and play opposite Jalen Ramsey, your answer is already there. 677 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: But I like to have insurance policies, especially at that position, 678 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: because one bad corner ruins your entire season. I agree 679 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: with that point, you can never have too many at 680 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: that position. But I also think the Ramps sometimes give 681 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: you the answers if you look a year prior in 682 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: the draft. And there's tons of examples of this, whether 683 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: it's you know, drafting Jordan Fuller and Taylor Rap and 684 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: knowing that John Johnson's tenure was great but that it 685 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: was coming to an end. I feel that way right 686 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: now about Darius Williams. Robert Rochelle can't wait to see 687 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: what Bobby Brown brings to the interior defensive front, knowing 688 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: that Sebastian Joseph Day was probably going to get a 689 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: contract that the Rams we're not going to be able 690 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: to match. So uh, when you're looking for the next 691 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: rising star, it's usually worth going back to that kind 692 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: of red shirt freshman draft class. And there's some intriguing 693 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: options in the most recent crops for the Los Angeles Rams. 694 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna start next Scott, why not? You gonna You're 695 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: gonna tell him to sit down? No? Are you kidding me? 696 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: And I apologize, excuse me for not saying, Oh, here 697 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: here comes the clip. Tom. This is not even the 698 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: clip I want to see. I want to see the 699 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: one verse, the one to hit on debot that changed 700 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: the whole game, and a J. Green before that, and 701 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: exactly like you have guys that you can develop and 702 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: play man. I just I think the Rams have done it. 703 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: They've done it, particularly like you talk about the big 704 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: trades done, but no one talks about the undrafted guys 705 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: or the guys they draft laton rounds that they developed 706 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: and they're becoming the big time players for them. They 707 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: don't talk about that as much. And those guys stepped 708 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: up huge throughout this playoff run as well and the 709 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl run. That's what I think is most important. 710 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: That's why I say it's hard for me to go 711 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: out there and say pay this guy a bunch of 712 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: money when you drafted and developed so many guys well 713 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: and Mo to your point, you know, just looking through 714 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: some of those draft classes, and I know we've got 715 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: several coming up where we have rounds in three to 716 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: four and some of those later rounds even getting into 717 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: six and seven. I mean David Long was a third round, 718 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: or you go to Greg Gaines fourth round. Nick Scott 719 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: seventh round and that's just in the twenty nineteen class alone. 720 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: And then even on the offensive side we didn't work. 721 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean Bryson Hopkins fourth round, Jordan Fuller, how about that? 722 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: Obviously on the defensive side sixth rounds. So a lot 723 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: can be done with these later round picks, and the 724 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: Rams have proven that time and time again, so I 725 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: can't wait to see what they're able to do. Yes, congratulations, 726 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: do you want to Coach of the year? See ye, 727 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: how you can draft guys late and make them better? 728 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, that's a great point, all right, fellas. 729 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: I feel like we've got one more place to go, 730 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: and that is to special teams and another bigger departure 731 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: because this guy was another emotional leader and a heart 732 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: and soul. I know, JV You've loved this guy through 733 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: and through. Johnny Hecker, move it on. What are your 734 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: thoughts on him? Well? I know DeMarco has made the 735 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: case before that he's a Hall of Famer and I 736 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: would agree with DeMarco, and if and when he does 737 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: go to Kenton, I want him to go in as 738 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: a Ram. Maurice, you and I were in Denver for 739 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: that final preseason game, looking at each other as Corey 740 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: Bojorkez checked one out inside the five yard line, again 741 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: thinking man, is this really how it's gonna end for 742 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: Johnny Hecker. Thank goodness the answer was known, but I 743 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: remember flying home thinking we may have seen Johnny Hecker 744 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: and Horns for the last time. So much prefer the 745 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: fact that he was able to come back and go 746 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: out as a Super Bowl champion. I don't know where 747 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: the Rams go next at that position. Maybe it's going 748 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: for it on all of their fourth I would love that. 749 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: And Sean mcvag if you're still around at this point 750 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: in the Between the Horns podcast, go for broke Man 751 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: fourth and short. Who needs a punner? Yes for sure? 752 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: And then oh, go ahead, No, I'll just say whether 753 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: it's draft or another veteran free agent, obviously, it's a 754 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: it's a major void to fill in on the Rams 755 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: are going to have to solve in the coming months. Yes, 756 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: about a doubt. But one void that they were able 757 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: to fill was Brandon Powell signing him at to a 758 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: one year deal. And I know this is one that 759 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: got me so excited because when he showed up, well, 760 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: he showed up in some big time moments and with 761 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: some big time place this was a void for us, 762 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: especially early on the season, and for him to be 763 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: able to step in and do exactly this right here, 764 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: just like you did against the Vikingsol. Yeah, that man 765 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: can FLYE. I mean, what does it mean to be 766 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: able to sign a guy like this and just kind 767 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: of have that confidence heading in two next season with 768 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: special teams feeling a little bit, a little bit better 769 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: in this role. I'll go to you as jd Well. 770 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: I think I think that was always Achilles Hill for 771 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: the MS like it was a special teams, it was 772 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: a special teams blender here, a bad kickoff covers there. 773 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: There was a couple of years of that. It was 774 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: a twenty twenty and then the front part of twenty 775 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: twenty one, and so I think kind of solidifying having 776 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: a returner that you know this guy, we can count him, 777 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: this is what he's done for us, We trust him, 778 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: we know what he can and can't do. I think 779 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: that's important. And let's remember the special teams they don't 780 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: win you games, They rarely win you games. They lose 781 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: more than they win. And I think it's important. I 782 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: think it's important, important for every our fans and everyone 783 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: here to understand that that third phase has cost more 784 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: teams losses and jobs and people's jobs than any other 785 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: position on the or any other phase in football. So 786 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: it's important to kind of get that going, get that solidified. Um, 787 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be exciting to get the draft pick from you, 788 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: you UCF back. It's important to get Ben Scronic back 789 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: out there. Right. Those guys were monsters for him, and 790 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: you're losing one because of injury. Then the other one 791 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: is because he has to play received every right. So 792 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: just getting that special team's roupe going back again, I 793 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be huge for the Rams. Yeah really 794 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: didn't Yeah didn't you say that? Didn't you say that? 795 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: That return against Jacksonville is like one of the season 796 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: inflection points. It was the spark. I mean I told 797 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: him that at the super Bowl. I told him when 798 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: the confetti's going down, I grab Powell. I said, man, 799 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: this you were kind of the face of the turnaround. 800 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: Once you had a confident and fearless return game through him, 801 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: everything started to turn around. I mean, it just gives 802 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: you a team such a spark, so great. I love 803 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: having him there. Um, I thought that was a tremendous 804 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: keep for the rams. That solidifies that spot and you 805 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: can keep Cooper Cup on offense, thank you very much. 806 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: That got scary for a while. But having that spot 807 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: solidified with the guy who's smart, who can field it 808 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: and who's also aggressive that you can take it to 809 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: the house or just not give up the big bounce 810 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: to lose yard. It's just be smart at that spot. 811 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: So that's great. I mean, but Johnny Um, I hate 812 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: the auditions for punters, man, I really do, because sometimes 813 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't work out in your favor. And think about it. 814 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: If you have a putter that's not as good or 815 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 1: is struggling, that hurts everything, that hurts your defense, hurts 816 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: your offense, hurt your football team. So not having a constant, 817 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: a known quantity in Johnny Hecker like Andrew Whitworth, that 818 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: will be tough to replace. Hands down holder for Matt 819 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: Kay special teams thrower too. There's all sorts of elements 820 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: that come with Johnny Hecker that there's just not another 821 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: one out there like him. It's bad punts or good 822 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: punts and just a great guy right and in the day, 823 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 1: just a good dude right that you you you knew 824 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: in that locker room was gonna have your back and 825 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: and and deliver your message, you know, when needed. So listen, 826 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: the Rams lost a lot, They lost a lot in 827 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: the free agency, but you know what happens to good teams. 828 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: You lose a lot if you lose it, you lose coaches, 829 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: you lose team players, you lose everything, and you gotta ready. 830 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm excited about this year, for this 831 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: Rams around. That's kind of how I feel, Maurice about 832 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: Robert Woods. And it's kind of like, I don't want 833 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: to tell anyone how to feel about this, right I 834 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: try not to get into that. If you're angry, if 835 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: you're sad, if you're upset, I get it. I think 836 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: we've all kind of gone through a lot of those emotions. 837 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: Unfortunately that's the time of year that we're in. But 838 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: what I've settled on from Bobby Trees' standpoint is like 839 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: the saying don't cry because it's oversmiled, because it happened 840 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: right and right there next to Andrew Whitworth in early 841 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen was a signing that I think changed the 842 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 1: course of this Rams franchise forevermore and even though Whitworth 843 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: and Woods might be done contributing to the Rams in 844 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: terms of week end and week out wins, I think 845 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: their impact will be felt for many more years to come, 846 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: and I'll keep rooting for them and whatever walk of 847 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: life or whatever team they're playing for next. I know 848 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: for a fact that the only the only USC fight 849 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: on deuces that I've ever seen Maurice Jones Drew celebrate 850 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: where Robert Woods against the Houston Texans at the Colisseum 851 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: on that ninety f that's I had to catch myself. 852 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,919 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to say that on on like Live James, 853 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: Maurice's UCLA hands started creeping up. He was on. It 854 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 1: was unbelievable, man, I would and I'll tell you this too, 855 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: and this is me. The last thing I'll say is, 856 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right. Like it's It was so 857 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: many great memories of all the of everybody, right from 858 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 1: the highs and the lows. I think when you talk 859 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: about Robert Woods, what I what I remember most are 860 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: his blocks, him going in and blocking linebackers and blocking 861 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: for his teammates. When he didn't touch the ball, he 862 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: might not have caught a ball. I wouldn't say against 863 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: the Nineers he didn't catch one pass. He had a 864 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: couple of carries, but he was still blocking the selflessness 865 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: of those guys. Andrew Whitworth, all those things, they were 866 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: amazing and so um. They created a culture that became 867 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 1: a winning culture. It's different than any culture I've been around. 868 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of yelling. It's more talking, understanding 869 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: and in football to Marco as we know and JB 870 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: and Cameron is we know it's a lot of yelling 871 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: going on and trying to rev guys up and this 872 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: and that they do it differently is because of the 873 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: guys they brought it in that in that free agency 874 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 1: class was a twenty seventeen and they made a difference 875 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 1: and they changed the way this thing went out. And man, 876 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: what a ride has been. But I can't wait for 877 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: the next though, Like who's next? You know? And to 878 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: your point that was actually what I want to close 879 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,919 Speaker 1: up with is the thought of when you look at 880 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: some of the departures and you talk about Robert Woods 881 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: and the leadership he brought, the leadership Andrew Whitworth brought, 882 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: the leadership that Johnny Hecker brought, and with those pieces 883 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: even Von Miller. He's been coined for helping a D 884 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: kind of pull out some of that verbal and that 885 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: communicative leadership out of Aaron Donald as well. So I'm 886 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: going to open this to the floor for all of you. 887 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 1: Are there a few names that maybe sit in the 888 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: back of your head going these are the guys, These 889 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: could be the next up that's going to step in 890 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: and leadership it shouldn't be underrated. That's a huge quality. 891 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: And I feel like there's been some guys that have 892 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: been roomed for this, this time, this exact moment right now, 893 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 1: I got two guys off the top of my head. Well, 894 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,439 Speaker 1: number one, Sean McVay can handle that on his own. 895 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: But on the field, Matthew Stafford is poised. He's done 896 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: it in Detroit. Now he's got a championship to defend. 897 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: Your leadership on offense is settled. Wait until Cooper cup 898 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 1: steps into that role like Aaron did. He's a reluctant leader. 899 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 1: He does it by example. Wait until he becomes vocal, 900 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: Wait until he starts speaking. There's some new leaders emerging 901 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: here with the When you lose, some new guys will 902 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 1: step up, and it comes from some surprising places. Wait 903 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: until Cooper cup starts taking a vocal lead of this 904 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: football team. That's I'm not trying to undermine what you 905 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: just said. I think it's spot on, But I just 906 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: had this visual how many people are at midfield for 907 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: coin tosses this year for the Los Angeles Rams. That 908 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 1: guy nine, he's your answer, exactly exactly? All right, Well, 909 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I think for me it's gonna be Aaron 910 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the day because this is his team. 911 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: Right when you look at it, everyone knows the Rams 912 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 1: is ninety nine. He's been there now, he's figured out. 913 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt, but I don't know if if you 914 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: had a chance to read any articles today, but one 915 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: guy doesn't know ninety nine. Yeah, exactly. Listen, Hey, I 916 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: don't listen. And he found out on the second play 917 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: of the game. Who ninety n that's the problem. But 918 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: what I would I think? I think at the end 919 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,959 Speaker 1: of the day, when we look at this and the guys, 920 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: when we first came together, DeMarco, you were here before us, 921 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: there was one name we knew we got here. It 922 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: was Aaron Donald. And as we go through this journey, 923 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: guess what, guess what name is gonna be here, Aaron 924 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, and when it all else fails, like Sean 925 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: said on that fourth and one, Aaron Donald is going 926 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: to make a play. And I think that's the most 927 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: important thing, and that's the leadership because he leads by 928 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: his actions. And now that he starts to speak up, 929 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,439 Speaker 1: and yeah, they just speak up a lot. He only 930 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: spoke up. What game was it? The Niners game? He 931 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: spoke up, right, and then after that they shut down everything. 932 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,919 Speaker 1: After that it was like defense went crazy. And so 933 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 1: I think he when he understands the timing to speak, 934 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: that's when things are going to get really you know, 935 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: he's learning that, he's understanding that it's gonna be great. Yeah, 936 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: that's it. I'm done. I think that we are currently 937 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: all done. But before we hop off this incredible episode 938 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: up between the Horns, we just want to say huge 939 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 1: thank you to all those guys that did have an 940 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: impact for Super Bowl fifty six. I mean, from Andrew 941 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: witwith Johnny Hecker, Robert Woods, Vaughan Miller, Darius Williams, the 942 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: Fashion Joseph Day. I'm probably missing a few others, but 943 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: a huge, huge thank you to the impact that those 944 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: guys have made and the best of luck in their 945 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: next home. We're watching them all the best, I believe. 946 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: That's all we've got. Any body else, any final thoughts 947 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: before we sign off here on Between the Horn don't 948 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: Troy Reader, Troy Reader, thank you, Happy birthday, thank you, 949 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: there you go, and happy birthday Mo. Yes, all right, 950 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: old no, And of course don't forget to tune in 951 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: to the NFL Draft this year and see what our 952 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: Los Angeles brands can do with some of those middle rounds. 953 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 1: This has been the Ree Agency edition of Between the Horns. 954 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us.