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Speaker 1: On the Jordan Harbinger Show, You'll hear amazing stories from

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Speaker 1: people that have lived them, from spies to CEOs, even

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Speaker 1: an undercover agent who infiltrated the Gambino crime family. You're

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Speaker 1: with Jack Garcia, who did just that. My career was

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Speaker 1: I say, hey, Jordan, you're on record with us. That

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Speaker 1: For more on how Jack became so trusted in the

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Speaker 1: ninety two of the Jordan Harbinger Show. This is the

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. You know, I have always found its

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Speaker 1: fascinating what gets publicity and what doesn't get publicity and

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Speaker 1: the reasons why. And it's never it's never an easy answer.

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Speaker 1: Like today, it's easy in America, it's pretty easy to

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Speaker 1: figure out what's going to get a ton of publicity

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Speaker 1: is whatever makes Democrats look good and whatever makes Republicans

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Speaker 1: is whatever makes Democrats look bad and whatever makes Republicans

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Speaker 1: look good. It's just the way it works. Now, let's

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Speaker 1: be frank. If an illegal immigrant murders somebody, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: the country for three weeks. That's how it works. Unfair, yes,

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Speaker 1: but life's unfair. That's how it works. But historically, I'm

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Speaker 1: And you know what's amazing. Before I was I was

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Speaker 1: looking into today's show because I really wanted to do

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Speaker 1: something on the Baton Death March, which people don't really

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Speaker 1: put it. To a man, these guys, Army, Navy, Marines, Germany,

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Speaker 1: Hang on, is he smarter than everyone who knows? Does

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Speaker 1: so school dot com slash Jesse again, it's funny what

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Speaker 1: December seventh, nineteen forty one. Everyone can hear FDR's voice.

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00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: guys do what they can. It should be noted. I

429
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Speaker 1: want to give just a slight shout out here to

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Speaker 1: the Angels of Baton. They're known as There was a

431
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: bunch of women nurses who were serving treating some of

432
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: the most horrific injuries you can imagine, and many of

433
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: them were offered to bail because there were enough boats

434
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: to grab a few people and take them out, and

435
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: most of them stayed General MacArthur didn't stay. General MacArthur,

436
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: who was on Batan Baton got picked up by a

437
00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: pt boat cruised on off the island. You know that

438
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: famous MacArthur I will return speech. He gave that speech

439
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: from Australia in a radio bought broadcast after all of

440
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: his men were left on Baton to die. A lot

441
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: of people defend it, A lot of people are horrified

442
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: by it, as you can probably tell I am horrified

443
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: by it. You stay, you stand side by side, and

444
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: you die when your men die. That's military leadership. I

445
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about how important and special you are.

446
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: You don't hit your ride. You say I'm not leaving

447
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: my men. That's leadership. Now a man named King, he's

448
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: a general. It's complicated. He wasn't really in charge. Wainwright

449
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: was really the guy in charge. But King is kind

450
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: of in charge. It's it's complicated. But King arranges a

451
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: meeting with the Japanese number two men. They have a meeting.

452
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: They essentially say, yeah, sure, surrender, it's time to surrender.

453
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: You must surrender now. Keep in mind our guys have

454
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: fought for months. Now. I need to lay this out

455
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: for you lest you decide to destroy King, which King

456
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: was probably wrong to do this. Had he sought out

457
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: permission from the higher ups, which you usually have to

458
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: do to surrender, they would have all said no. But

459
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: American forces in that jungle and the Filipinos fighting with us,

460
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: we're starving to death. They were dying of thirst. They

461
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: were dying of malaria. Eighty percent had malaria and fifty

462
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: percent had dysenterry. I don't know about you, but I

463
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: can do some amateur math, and that tells me many, many,

464
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: many of our troops had malaria and dysenterry at the

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00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: same time. Quickside note for you, I've had dysenterry. I

466
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: got it in Thailand. I know, surprise, surprise. It feels

467
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: like you swallowed razor blades. That's what it feels like.

468
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: It's not a tummy ache. It feels like you swallowed

469
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: razor blades. And I know this is gross, but you're

470
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: gonna need to remember it for just a minute from

471
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: now when you have to go when you have dysenterry.

472
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: I cannot stress this point enough. It's not a normal

473
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: you know, green apples flatters. It's not asking permission when

474
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: you have to go, You're going Now it's horrific. It's

475
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: a stumach parasite. It's horrific. I've had Our guys are

476
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: starving to death. There's no water now in the jungle

477
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: because it dried out. They're dying of thirst. They're dying

478
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: of disease. And remember they're fighting this whole way, so

479
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: they're being shot to pieces. There are wounds everywhere. We

480
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: can't get fresh bandages. Our force is dying to the

481
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: last man and fighting like warriors. So people kill King

482
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: for this. But King arranges a surrender that eventually was

483
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: put on Waynwright, even though Wainwright really didn't do it.

484
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: Waynwright was a lieutenant general. I believe surrenders. Our guys surrender. Now.

485
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: The Japanese, again, remember, lived by their own rules, lived

486
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: by their own code. Now we're going to talk about

487
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: a few really really sad things. To just gear up

488
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: for this, they had a habit of not marking their

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00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: ships that were carrying our POWs with red crosses like

490
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do, so those ships were kept safe.

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00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: So on more than one ship, they would load our

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00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: POWs in the bottom of the ship, seal the doors

493
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: with almost no ventilation, no bathroom. Our guys would be

494
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: kept without water. They'd throw a bucket of rice down. Now,

495
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: not the whole bucket. They would dump a bucket of

496
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: rice down in the gigantic hold where five hundred to

497
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: a thousand of our guys were being held in total darkness?

498
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: What else is accumulating on that floor as you keep

499
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: five hundred to one thousand men in there? If you

500
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 1: want to eat and survive, you have to bend down

501
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: and pick up pieces of rice that are mixed in

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00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: with everything else. I know it's ugly. It look it's

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00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: gonna be ugly for a few minutes. Hang on, got

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Speaker 1: on a tangent here. I have nothing against having a

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00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: beer now and then, certainly not goody two shoes by

509
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: any means. But I don't like taking chemicals into my body.

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Speaker 1: is more healthy. That's why, even in my times where

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Speaker 1: I was really really having trouble sleeping, I didn't like

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Speaker 1: our POWs. Held in the bottom of a completely black

521
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: holed no food except the rice they're picking off the ground,

522
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: along with the own human waste, no water, men begin

523
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: to die pretty quickly down here in these conditions. Men

524
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: begin to go insane down here pretty quickly in these conditions,

525
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: as you can imagine, how much can the human mind

526
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: possibly take? How much can the human mind take? If

527
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: I locked you in an air conditioning, air conditioned, completely

528
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: dark room with food, water in a bathroom, how long

529
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: could you last before you lost your mind? And then

530
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: if you can imagine a living hell like this, somehow

531
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: getting even worse. Sadly, it got worse. You remember how

532
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: I told you the Japanese didn't obey the laws of war,

533
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 1: didn't mark the ships, the way they're supposed to. Well,

534
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: hang on the Jesse Kelly show. This is the Jesse

535
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: Kelly show. Those ships, unmarked ships carrying our POWs, sailing

536
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: through the water. Eventually an American submarine or two comes

537
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: across them, somehow found of functioning torpedo and sunk it

538
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: to the bottom of the Pacific with our own guys on.

539
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: It happened more than once, and other people were forced

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00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: to march. Here's the situation. Our guys surrender. The Japanese code.

541
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: The Japanese culture at this time. I'm not defending it

542
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: because some of this is just too sadistic, but the

543
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: Japanese culture at this time did view you as less

544
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: than human, less than a man. If you surrender, you

545
00:43:53,680 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 1: were supposed to kill yourself. Period. Again, I've told this before.

546
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: It's a true story. Japanese mothers would hand their sons

547
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: knives to kill themselves with rather than capture. That is

548
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: commitment your own mom, Hey, make sure you die, because

549
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: it was such dishonor not only on yourself, but your

550
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: family back home. If you were captured, if you surrendered,

551
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: you didn't do it. So all these Americans surrendering, the

552
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: Japanese viewed them as less than human. Now Here, you

553
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: have a whole bunch of Americans, You have seventy five

554
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: miles to walk, and your superior in the Japanese Army

555
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: is breathing down your neck telling you you had better

556
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: hurry up. We have other places to be. I don't

557
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: have a way to properly describe this to you. I

558
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: wasn't there. I can only say this, Remember our guys,

559
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: our sickest dogs. I want you to put in your mind,

560
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: what is the sickest you've ever been in your life.

561
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: You'll remember something, whether it was food poisoning, the flu,

562
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: maybe you had something more severe. You know how you

563
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: feel when you're sick. You can't hardly move it. Lifting

564
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: your arm can be exhausting. You don't want to talk now.

565
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: I want you to picture this. You're the sickest you've

566
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: ever been in your life. You're standing in the middle

567
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: of a road and it's one hundred and eight degrees

568
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: outside that I mentioned. You don't have any water, don't

569
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: have any food, and haven't had any for a while.

570
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: You're already skinny, and as you begin your march, the

571
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: guards have no orders to get you there alive. In fact,

572
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: they're looking for excuses to kill you. Remember that dysenterry

573
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: I told you about. Remember you have to stop, you

574
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: have to stop. You stop, you get a bayonet in

575
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: the ribs, dead or shot, or get your head cut off.

576
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: One famous story, after they'd been marching for some time,

577
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: had the troops stop in front of a bubbling spring

578
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: of water. The Japanese made him stand there and stare

579
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: at it. One American soldier loses his mind, as you

580
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: can imagine, runs over begins to drink from the water,

581
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: doing anything he can to nourish himself. A Japanese soldier

582
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: walks over to the man, pulls out his Samurai sword,

583
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: and with one stroke, lops his head off. The Japanese

584
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: have a few trucks where they only really let their

585
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: troops ride. And again we're getting to the point where

586
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: you're really going to start having hatred bubble. But you

587
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: need to know the Japanese would purposely swerve as they

588
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: drove down the road to run over and kill our

589
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: guys or mortally wound them. Are you starting to have

590
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: a better idea of an eighty some year old man

591
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: still hating them to this day. There is no defense

592
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: of it. They would do things like once they got

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00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: where they were going. The men who actually lived the

594
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: conditions in the prison camps were just as bad or worse.

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00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: You remember that Lieutenant General Wainwright who surrendered. The Japanese

596
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: thought that was hilarious. They had a lieutenant general under them,

597
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: so they would force him to salute and bow to

598
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: them repeatedly. They would force our guys into slave labor,

599
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: like building trenches around an airfield. And one time, after

600
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: our guys were done for the day, the Japanese, to

601
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: amuse themselves, filled up a trench next door to the

602
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: airport full of gasoline, told our guys an airstrike was imminent.

603
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: Our guys ran into the trench, where the Japanese then

604
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: lit them all on fire. Some of our guys laid

605
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: down and died. Some of our guys ran to the

606
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: cliffs to jump off, only there were Japanese soldiers at

607
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: the bottom of the cliff that shot them. Some of

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00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: our guys, in what I considered to be one of

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00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: the coolest, bravest things I've ever heard in my life,

610
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: after they were set ablaze, ran up to Japanese soldiers

611
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: and hugged them so they could burn them with them

612
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: Colonel Suji was one of the most sadistic people in

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00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: that war. He oversaw a lot of this stuff. And

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00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to stop now because I don't need to

615
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: groc you out and bum you out on a Friday.

616
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: Just know this never paid for his crimes and is

617
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: still celebrated in Japan to this day. There is a chance,

618
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: though Colonel Suji got his in the end, there were

619
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: roving bands of paid, unpaid, just vengeful people for years

620
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: after the war, hunting down escaped Nazis and others. We

621
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: have no idea what actually happened to him, but what

622
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: we do know is Colonel Suji, years later took a

623
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Speaker 1: vacation to Louse and disappeared and was never seen again.

624
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: One can only hope somebody paid that man a visit.

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00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: In the middle of the night, I hear a lot

626
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: of talk because of what's happening to our society. You

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00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: see it. I don't have to elaborate on it. We'll

628
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: get to your ask doctor Jesse questions. Here a lot

629
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: of talk out there about civil war this, and we

630
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: need a war. Let's just get bloody in the streets.

631
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: Let's just you hear a lot of that from people

632
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: who've never been in one and who don't really understand

633
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: how unimaginably cruel man can be to another man. You

634
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: live in a Judeo Christian society, at least it used

635
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: to be. You were raised with a certain set of value.

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Speaker 1: really really need to find a different solution than going

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Speaker 1: our ask doctor Jesse questions. You guys have sent in

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Speaker 1: plenty of them. Thank you for those. If you want

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Speaker 1: That's Jesse at Jesse Kelly Show dot com The first

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Speaker 1: one is this, I was told by a friend that

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Speaker 1: you consider yourself tall? And at one point? At what

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Speaker 1: point is one considered tall? Okay, I'm six foot eight. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I consider myself tall. Obviously, I'm pretty sure six ft

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Speaker 1: eight puts me in like the ninety nine percentile or

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Speaker 1: something like that. So yes, I'm tall. Yes, I'm so

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Speaker 1: tall that I realize I'm tall. Now, when I say

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Speaker 1: I realize I'm tall, I look down to this day.

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Speaker 1: I'm thirty eight years old. I'm almost thirty nine. In

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Speaker 1: consider tall. The tall The difference between tall and not

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Speaker 1: tall to be six four. If you're sixty three, I

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Speaker 1: don't consider you tall. If you're six four, I do

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Speaker 1: consider you tall. However, the line for manhood is six feet. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I can't what, Chris, but oh, I realized we have

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Speaker 1: phone screener Mitchell listening to the show, and he's about

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Speaker 1: five feet So that one's probably gonna hit hard. That

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Speaker 1: one's probably gonna hit hard for poor Mitchell. We'll patch

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Speaker 1: that up after the show. Chris. We don't even have

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Speaker 1: an HR around here, do we. I don't think. So

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Speaker 1: We're fine. Everything's fine. Nobody worried. Somebody asked doctor Jesse,

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Speaker 1: do you have Duke on your statue list? He's talking

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Speaker 1: about the list of colleges I've been going after. He's

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Speaker 1: talking about that cancel Yale campaign. I went on going

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Speaker 1: after the racist roots of America's universities. Let's be clear

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Speaker 1: about something here. I don't want any statues torn down.

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Speaker 1: I don't want any schools changing their names. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think judging the past by the standards of today

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Speaker 1: is absurd. And even if somebody was a horrible human being,

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Speaker 1: if somebody being a horrible human being two hundred years

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Speaker 1: ago in any way negatively affects your state of mind,

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Speaker 1: you are the problem. I cannot possibly stress that enough.

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Speaker 1: If something happened a long time ago and it negatively

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Speaker 1: affects your state of mind, you're the problem. You are

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Speaker 1: too weak. You must find a way to toughen up.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing about that. I just have to clarify.

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Speaker 1: It's not as if people aren't victims of injustice in

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Speaker 1: this country. Ever, they are, and that doesn't fall along

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Speaker 1: racial lines. The nature of man is sometimes you get

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Speaker 1: screwed over in this life. How screwed do you feel?

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Speaker 1: If you're an American soldier You just got to Philippines

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Speaker 1: that for your new station. This happened to people, by

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Speaker 1: the way in November, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: a few months later, you find yourself standing in your

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Speaker 1: pow ship and an American torpedo slams into the side

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Speaker 1: of the ship. And now this little hold you were

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Speaker 1: in is filling up with water. Does that seem like

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Speaker 1: an unfair shake in life? Yeah, that's the definition of

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you're the dog, sometimes you're the tree. So let

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Speaker 1: me be clear. There are absolutely people who are victims

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Speaker 1: of something bad luck, oppression, justice system, bad boss, bad company, circumstances,

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Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. However, let's be real, real

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Speaker 1: clear about this. If you raise your child to consider

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Speaker 1: themselves a victim, you are mentally handy capping your child

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Speaker 1: for the rest of their life. Even if it's true

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Speaker 1: you have put an artificial ceiling on your child's ability

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Speaker 1: to succeed and be happy, because once that is ingrained

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Speaker 1: in you, you can't get it out. Oh you'll never

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Speaker 1: get a fair shake because you're black. Oh you'll never

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Speaker 1: get a fair shake you're a woman. I see this

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Speaker 1: right now with white people all the time, because it's true.

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Speaker 1: Our culture now is become extremely anti white. That's just

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Speaker 1: a fact you can dump all over white people without

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Speaker 1: any fear of retribution. And so I see it from

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Speaker 1: from white people too. Odds Are you gonna address a

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Speaker 1: fact white man is under attack? No, go succeed. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear excuses from you because of your

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Speaker 1: skin color ever, not if you're black, not if you're white,

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Speaker 1: not if you're a man, not if you're a woman.

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Speaker 1: Even if those excuses are valid, and I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: I understand sometimes they're valid, I do. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to hear it because it only negatively affects you. You

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Speaker 1: can sit and make excuses your entire life. By the

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Speaker 1: time you're sixty or seventy, you'll still be a loser

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Speaker 1: until you decide to not be a loser anymore. I

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Speaker 1: don't care if that's harsh. It's not your mommy's show.

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Speaker 1: It's your daddy's show. I'm the one telling you how

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Speaker 1: it is. I don't want to hear it. We can

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Speaker 1: talk about these problems, absolutely, I don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 1: I don't care that people are going to be mad

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Speaker 1: and write the show. I don't want to hear it. Jesse.

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Speaker 1: You have to understand, I'm black and I got pulled

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Speaker 1: over too much. That sucks. That's disgusting. Actually, I hope

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Speaker 1: someone reforms that police department. Don't you dare let that

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Speaker 1: hold you back from success. Don't make it anyway, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: I'm white. I got this the other day. Jesse, I'm

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Speaker 1: white and I got denied scholarships because there aren't any

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Speaker 1: college scholarships out there for white kids. Yes, that's one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent true. That sucks. Go find a way to

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Speaker 1: make it anyway. Go find a way to make it.

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Speaker 1: You gotta find a way because the only other option

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Speaker 1: is be miserable. And it's that an option. Is that

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Speaker 1: an option you want? And I've done this thing in

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Speaker 1: my life. It's not like I'm talking down. I've had

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Speaker 1: these moments in my life. Not many because I wasn't

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Speaker 1: raised this way, but I've had these moments where I

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Speaker 1: got down blamed everyone else. Probably his fault, probably that fault,

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Speaker 1: probably this, Probably that. You gotta snap out of that crap.

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Speaker 1: You gotta snap out of it. Bad crap happens to everybody. Injustice,

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Speaker 1: Unfairness happens to everybody. At some point along the way.

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Speaker 1: You say it's not fair. Your dad gun right, it's

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Speaker 1: not fair. Life is unfair. Life is unfair. Snap out

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Speaker 1: of it. Do better, you must. Speaking of unfair You

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Speaker 1: know what we've never really dove into on the show, Chris,

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Speaker 1: the Jeffrey Epstein stuff too deeply. We have a lot

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Speaker 1: of Goodman. She's been on the show. She was on

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Speaker 1: the show a long time ago. She's dynamite. She wrote

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Speaker 1: And are you looking at the markets out there right now?

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Speaker 1: The economic dislocation. We just had a five percent contraction

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Speaker 1: of the economy. People, this economy is going to blow

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Speaker 1: inch Short's you know what? That's not nice? Chris, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm a foot short. Oh night, dodge that bullet. Joining

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Speaker 1: us now, a lot of good men. She's joining in

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Speaker 1: on a high level, high level conversation over here. Alana

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Speaker 1: Goodman is a senior investigative reporter for The Free Beacon

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Speaker 1: and author of a book I have to get my

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Speaker 1: hands on, called a Convenient Death. First of all, Alana,

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Speaker 1: what do you consider too tall for a man? Well,

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Speaker 1: I was not prepared for that question. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I would consider anything too tall.

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Speaker 1: I think height is always good in a man. I

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Speaker 1: okay for me as long as you're taller than me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I see women have that advantage. I feel bad for

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Speaker 1: short dudes. Women can be hot at any height, but

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Speaker 1: a dude who's like five to five, he's just totally screwed.

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Speaker 1: It's toss. It's really tough out there, all right, this book,

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Speaker 1: give it to me. What are the goods? Okay? So me,

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Speaker 1: my co author Daniel Halper, and I looked into the

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Speaker 1: mysterious death of Jeffrey Epstein in prison, which I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you remember from Lost, And he looked at his network

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Speaker 1: of friends, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Victoria's secret billionaire Leslie Wexner, Gates,

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Speaker 1: all of these very powerful people who were around him,

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Speaker 1: and um, you know, any any secrets of theirs that

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Speaker 1: he might have taken to the grave. What are these secrets?

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Speaker 1: I look, I'll be honest with you. I never bought it.

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Speaker 1: I always thought it was weird, but I never wanted

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Speaker 1: just pointed out, he knew a lot of extremely powerful people.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've done plenty of digging what do you

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Speaker 1: think actually happened. Well, we lay out a lot of

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Speaker 1: different options about what could have happened that night. Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean the short answer is, you know, we don't

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Speaker 1: think that foul play can be dismissed outright. We talked

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Speaker 1: to prison guards who worked at mcc pasmer Epstein died,

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Speaker 1: and they said that it would have been extremely difficult

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Speaker 1: talked about how he was, you know, just hours book

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Speaker 1: was enthusiastically planning out his legal defense strategy. He was

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Speaker 1: like really stamped up to fight this thing. And we

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Speaker 1: talked to Epstein's brother who said he's just been stonewalled

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Speaker 1: completely by authorities on this and he's trying to find

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01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: out basic information about what happens that night. So there

847
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: are a lot of reasons to say this isn't a

848
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: simple case, and there's there are legitimate questions, a lot

849
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Speaker 1: of could you lay out just for people who've probably

850
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: forgotten what is Epstein? What were his crimes or you've

851
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: not not just the ones he was formally charged with

852
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: what was this guy up tons sex trafficking operation involving

853
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: underage girls? And then that's what he was, you know,

854
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: that's what he was charged with. That's what I mean.

855
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: He was supposed to go on trial actually this month.

856
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: That was when his trial was scheduled to begin. You know,

857
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: who knows if it would have been delayed because of coronavirus.

858
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: But it's really a shame that we are, you know,

859
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: we're here and he's not here to face justice. And

860
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, I think that the Department of Justice really

861
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: needs to be more transparents about what was going on

862
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: in their prison and how he was allowed to die

863
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: under their custoday because his victims, unfortunately, are not able

864
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: to get that ultimate justice. You laid out some of

865
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Speaker 1: the famous, very wealthy, very powerful people he knew. Do

866
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: we have any idea how much they really knew him?

867
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: I mean, you and I both know in this political world,

868
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Speaker 1: you take a million pictures of a million different people,

869
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Speaker 1: you run into him at some big conference, and all

870
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: of a sudden, someone will blasted out there your best

871
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: friends or were they really close? How close was he

872
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: with these other powerful He was close? He was close

873
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: with Um, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump. Um, it was

874
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: with Clinton. I mean, Clinton has obviously downplayed their relationship,

875
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: but they were friends. Um. There was a story that

876
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: we report in the book on how Bill Clinton back

877
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: when he was still president, he was at a party

878
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: at Carolyn Kennedy's house on Martha's Vineyard and a Secret

879
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: Service agent comes in, taps him on the shoulder, says,

880
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 1: you know, you got a phone call on your cell phone,

881
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 1: and it's He stepped out, takes the call. It was

882
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, talked to him for like ten minutes, came

883
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: back into the party. Um. Alan Dershowitz was actually at

884
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: that party and Bill Clinton walks up him and he says, Hey,

885
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 1: Jeffrey's on the phone. You want to you want to

886
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: say hi to him? Um, So this was while he

887
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: was president. Jeffrey Epstein had a direct line to him

888
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: while he was in the White House, which is which

889
01:09:55,120 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: is pretty scary considering considering the what we know about now,

890
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: what do we know about Donald Trump? How close they

891
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: were close as well? Um, there was at one point

892
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: Trump actually organized a party for beauty pageant contestants at

893
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: Marlago and he invited Epstein as the like featured male guest,

894
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: and we talked to the pageant director and he was

895
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: actually really angry about this because he had previously banned

896
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: Epstein from his pageants because he had come on to

897
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: the contestants and some of these roles were as young

898
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: as fifteen years old. Um, so he bans Epstein from

899
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: this from attending these these pageants, which was a big

900
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: place at casinos. It was kind of a CD baby pageant.

901
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: But then Trump has a big party for these girls

902
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: at Marlago and he invites Epstein to it um as

903
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 1: again like pretty much the only male guest who is there.

904
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 1: So he did eventually cut ties with Epstein when he

905
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: found out that when comes on out that he tried

906
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: to solicit the the daughter of a Marlago member, But

907
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: you know before that they had a close relationship. Alana,

908
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 1: You hear all the time, or at least I do

909
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: all the time, and you never know what to believe

910
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: of people who think the billionaires, Hollywood whatever it may be,

911
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: that this kind of disgusting stuff is extremely prevalent. And

912
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: half of me wants to say, oh, I have a

913
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 1: hard time believing that, and then the other half of

914
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: me looks at the history of the world. And that's

915
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: what wealthy, powerful men have done in the history of

916
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: the world. What do you think, Well, I, you know, help,

917
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: I don't think that it's you know, everybody's involved in

918
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: you know things. I haven't I haven't seen anything like that.

919
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,919
Speaker 1: But you know, I think that when you are somebody

920
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: as wealthy and powerful as Jeffrey Epstein and this is

921
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: your saying, you know underage girls, you are able to

922
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Speaker 1: take it to a scale that you know, a normal

923
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Speaker 1: person who doesn't have five million dollars to throw him

924
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 1: as he is able to do. And I think that's

925
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: kind of the horrifying part about this. I mean, not

926
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: only was he able to run this this big operation

927
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 1: which required staff and and you know which is all

928
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: of the all these people to get these these many,

929
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 1: you know, hundreds of girls allegedly UM, but he also

930
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: was able to evade justice on it, you know. I

931
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: mean he was able to get this great deal UM

932
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: in Florida back in two thousand and seven when he

933
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: the first time that he got arrested for this, and

934
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: he was able to hire just a dream team of

935
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:41,759
Speaker 1: lawyers UM to fight on this. And you know, it's

936
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: it's it's really that's I think that's the scary part

937
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: of the whole thing. Why was he able to get

938
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: off in Florida so easy? Is it just the lawyers?

939
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: Was there a dirty judge there? Do you know anything

940
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: about that? Well, we do, We do go into that

941
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: in the book. I think he had he had some

942
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 1: great he had some great lawyers. UM. I will also say,

943
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: I mean he thought that he had a really good

944
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: case this second time around, Like his his legal team.

945
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: They it wasn't just like, oh, you know, we think

946
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Speaker 1: it's going to be fine. Like they really thought they

947
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Speaker 1: had a solid case, um because he had a non

948
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Speaker 1: prosecution agreement that he had signed previously in Florida. UM.

949
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Speaker 1: And he other than that, like there was double jeopardy

950
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Speaker 1: potential double jeopardy questions um for being tried again. And

951
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Speaker 1: they also thought that the state had a weak case

952
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Speaker 1: on interstate transport. So you know, they were very optimistic

953
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Speaker 1: about him actually coming out victorious on this one. So

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977
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Speaker 1: women approach men if they're interested. This is from a woman.

978
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Speaker 1: I've been accused of being a little old school when

979
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: it comes to things. And here's what I firmly believe

980
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: a woman should, by all means, do a little flirting.

981
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: It doesn't hurt to let him know you're interested. I

982
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: don't understand this modern way of thinking of I should

983
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: treat him like complete crap or be a total witch

984
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: to him as some kind of challenge or something. I

985
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: don't know what that is. I mean, especially if he's

986
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: a man with options, He's not gonna go running down

987
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: the lady who's an absolute witch. Little little flirting never hurts,

988
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 1: butn't hurt at all. However, I believe the man should

989
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 1: be doing the approaching. And here's why life isn't perfect.

990
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: By the way, if if this isn't your situation, that's five.

991
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: But here's why society, biology, how we're created, moves on better.

992
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: If bold men are the ones procreating and cranking out kids,

993
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: it just does. That's what we want. Part of were

994
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: part of the reason we're seeing what we're seeing is this.

995
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: We have weakened men in this society their own faults,

996
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 1: alway's fault with their own. We have become so feminized,

997
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: we've told men they're supposed to be feminized and weak,

998
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: and why aren't you more in touch with your feelings?

999
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,879
Speaker 1: Could you put on these put on these fake boobs

1000
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: and breast milked a baby? So you know what I'm

1001
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: going through. People. That happens now these days, and people

1002
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: will defend it, defend it. No, I always I always

1003
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: sit down and watch the view with my wife. It

1004
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 1: just helps me understand her more. It has killed us,

1005
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: killed us that men are no longer men in this

1006
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 1: world and the country. It just does. And you know

1007
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: it's not unusual. It's not like this has never happened

1008
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: to a great power. This is what happens in great powers.

1009
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 1: The men get softer and softer and softer, and men

1010
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: whose duty it is to protect a society. I don't

1011
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: care about you weavings, right stuff. It's a man's job

1012
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: to protect society. When they are unable to do so,

1013
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: a man from another society who wants to come in

1014
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,719
Speaker 1: here and take what is ours will come in here

1015
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: and take what is ours. Period. That's not some dire

1016
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 1: doomsday prediction. That is the history of the world. At

1017
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 1: some point, when you're rome, you rule the world, and

1018
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 1: everybody fears you, and then at some point when you're rome,

1019
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: the vandals are battering down the gates of your city

1020
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 1: and taking whatever they want. That's how it goes, and

1021
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: that's why I think men should be the one doing

1022
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: they're approaching. Allow me to give you some advice, young men,

1023
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: because I know I have a bunch of them who

1024
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 1: listen to the show. I have lived an adventurous thirty

1025
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:29,759
Speaker 1: eight years. Do you know the one thing I hear

1026
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: time and time and time again over the course of

1027
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: my life from unbelievably hot women. Nobody asks me out.

1028
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: Do you know how often you look around and you

1029
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: see his relatively ugly dude with some absolute dime And

1030
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: what do you say to your buddies? Not he must

1031
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: be rich? Do you know what the real truth of

1032
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: the matter is? Sure, sometimes he is rich. Sometimes he

1033
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: was the one with the balls to walk up and say, Hi,

1034
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm Mark. You want to go get a burger? Can

1035
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: I buy you a beer? Hey? You want to go

1036
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: for a walk out there with me? I want to

1037
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: talk to you. Why because I saw you and I

1038
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: think you're hot. Do you have any idea how much

1039
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: you would clean up in this society? If that's how

1040
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: you approached it, and I'm not doing this thing because

1041
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm safely old and married now where I'm telling you

1042
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: where I'm telling you this, and I act like it's

1043
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: not nerve wracking. You know, women don't realize that, and

1044
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: dudes have to try to lie about that. Granted, I

1045
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: lack a certain shame or things that connect, you know,

1046
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: things that are supposed to be in my brain are

1047
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 1: not there. But it is nerve racking, especially when you're

1048
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: with your boys. You see a group of girls. One

1049
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: catches your eye. It's a little nerve wracking. Just roll

1050
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: right up there, maybe get laughed at, and you might

1051
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: get laughed at. They might laugh in your freaking face.

1052
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: Of course, by the way, as you walk away, if

1053
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: she laughs in your face, you can take comfort in

1054
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: the knowledge that is one a girl who then leaves

1055
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: and goes and complains that guys never approach her. Yeah,

1056
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: because you're a witch when they do. Be bold if

1057
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Speaker 1: you see some girl, especially if you find one. I mean,

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01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: there are a million hot girls everywhere. If you find

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01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: one with an actual personality, brother, be bold, take the

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01:21:41,360 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: freaking chance. Trust beyond that. Hang on, b bold, gentleman,

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01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: Bi Bold, I have to get to this story before

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01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 1: I get back to my questions here really quickly, because

1063
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: it made me think of something. The headline is this

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01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: from Free Beacon, China and Russia rank as the worst

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01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: offenders in human trafficking. Do you know what headline came

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01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 1: out the other day that absolutely floored me. We talked

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01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: about it really briefly on the show. Walmart and Mississippi.

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01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: There's no longer going to sell the Mississippi state flag

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01:22:56,360 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 1: because of the Confederate flag connections. M how many things

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01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 1: in Walmart are made in China? Don't mean to ask

1071
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 1: the uncomfortable questions, just trying to put it out there.

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01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 1: How many things in Walmart are made in China? Mm hmm.

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01:23:22,680 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 1: Hang on Jesse Kelly Show. This is a Jesse Kelly show.

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01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 1: It is an ask doctor Jesse Friday eight seven seven

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Speaker 1: three seven seven four three seven three eight seven seven

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01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: three seven seven four three seven three. Somebody asked me

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01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: about a chiropractor. Apparently there's some chiropractor in the Houston

1078
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: area who wraps towels around your neck to elongate your spine.

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01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 1: I will tell you this, while I had to go

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01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:59,600
Speaker 1: to a chiropractor, I don't know whether I had to

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01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 1: go while I went to a chiropractor a lot when

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01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: I was a kid, when I was a teenager, because

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01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: I grew so fast, I had all kinds of black,

1084
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 1: black problems. Whether that was the right thing to do

1085
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: or not, I don't know, but I'll tell you this,

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01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: I had plenty of back pain. I generally am a

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01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 1: little creeped out by people who adjust your spine. That

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01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 1: seems like such an important thing, doesn't it, Chris, That's

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01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 1: just I'm out on that. It's not that I'm anti

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01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 1: chiropractor at all. A good adjustment can do you fine.

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01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 1: But you know what, you know what's funny. This is

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01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: what turns me off. And I'm not faulting them for

1093
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 1: it because they're not chiropractors out of the goodness of

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01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 1: their hearts. I mean maybe that's part of it, but

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01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 1: they're there what to make a living, right, and having

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01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: been to more than one in my lifetime, here's what

1097
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: happens every time, and you know I'm right. You walk

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01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: into the chiropractor, he gives you an adjustment, put you

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01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: on the table, does that thing where you feel like

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01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna die, You hear your backpop, so on and

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01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: so forth. And what do they say on your way

1102
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: out every single time? Well, we need to get you

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01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: back in here at least once a month for the

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01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: next six months. That every time, every single time, And

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01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: I've been to a million of them. I have never

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01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: once walked into a chiropractice's office for an adjustment and

1107
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 1: had him say, man, you're good to go. I don't

1108
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:33,839
Speaker 1: think I need to see you again. And I realize again,

1109
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm not criticizing a man. You know, I respect the hustle.

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01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm not criticizing how a man earns a living. This

1111
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: is Look, I think Dennis do the same thing. Oh,

1112
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: we need to see you back here in six months.

1113
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: Should we automatically make you an appointment? Oh, I'll call

1114
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: you if my teeth hurt, don't call me. I'll call you, though,

1115
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: doctor Jesse. Do the Redskins change their name within three

1116
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 1: years now? The Redskins have fought this off for a

1117
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: long long time. They have fought this off for a

1118
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:25,600
Speaker 1: long time. I think they collapse. I think in this society,

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01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: because of where they are too, they collapse. Remember the

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Speaker 1: Washington Redskins. They are in Washington, d C. It's ninety

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01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: two percent Democrat there, so It's not just that they

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01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:45,520
Speaker 1: have the redskin name, it's that they're under constant assault

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01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 1: by the people who live in the area to change

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01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: the name. That's one. Two. Look at the momentum in

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01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 1: society and where it's going all the I mean, they

1126
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 1: dropped Aunt Jemimah. They dropped her face off the syrup bottle.

1127
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: Somebody somewhere is going to have to explain to me

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01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 1: how it helps the cause of black people who think

1129
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 1: there's racism to remove a black person off of a product.

1130
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 1: Did anybody in the history of mankind ever look at

1131
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: the Aunt Jemima bottle and say, man, that really makes

1132
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: black people look dumb. I didn't even know there was

1133
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: some stereotype with it about Wow, there's the black lady

1134
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 1: on the bottle. I wonder if that's a real person.

1135
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 1: I bet she could cook, right, I bet she could cook.

1136
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: I don't understand why. I don't understand this elimination of

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01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 1: everything socide. Remember Lando Lakes did this with the Indian

1138
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: lady that was on their butter too. It was not

1139
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: some unless I'm mistaken here, it was not some negative

1140
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 1: display of an Indian woman. He was sitting there, the

1141
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: pretty little Indian gal holding some butter. What what's the problem?

1142
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: But you know what's amazing about it, As you will

1143
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 1: hear time after time after time after time, it's not

1144
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: just that people want it changed, they want it removed.

1145
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 1: It's that it's a minority of people who want it changed.

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01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 1: You know, there are tons of Indian tribes out there,

1147
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 1: because they're all just you know, one Indian group. I remember,

1148
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 1: we talked about that all the time, several different tribes

1149
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 1: who are totally fine with it. But it's this loud

1150
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: minority that always ends up getting its way as people

1151
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: break down, and that has been part of the reason

1152
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: we've lost so much ground in this culture war with

1153
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 1: the left. The truth is this, they never stop. You

1154
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 1: are reasonably happy with your life. What are you doing

1155
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: this weekend? Wife, husband, kids, spouse, pool, Jim, Maybe get

1156
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 1: some work done around the house. Maybe you got a

1157
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 1: party at the neighbors. Maybe you're going fishing, maybe you're

1158
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: going golfing. Maybe church on Sunday, Synagogue on Saturday. When

1159
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: do you people go to church? Chris Synagogue on Saturday.

1160
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 1: How many of you listening to my show right now,

1161
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: how many of you have a protest plan this weekend?

1162
01:30:56,360 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: How many any Are you going to tear anything down

1163
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 1: this weekend? Probably the mirror suggestion of it probably has

1164
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 1: you scoffing, right, and mea has me scoffing. Are you

1165
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: going to pick it in front of a building until

1166
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 1: they whatever? Fill in the blank on whatever your cause is.

1167
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:28,600
Speaker 1: Are you is there a planned parenthood in your neighborhood,

1168
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 1: in your area? Are you gonna go pick it this weekend?

1169
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 1: You aren't not judging you, I'm not, But that's why

1170
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:57,560
Speaker 1: we lose. They're picking The silent majority is completely useless

1171
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: because of its silent and look around. You can pat

1172
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 1: yourself on the back all day long. I've done it too.

1173
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 1: While we elected Trump. We elected Donald Trump, We're good

1174
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: to go. Look how many culture war losses we've had

1175
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 1: since the election of Donald Trump the United States president,

1176
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 1: especially a Republican one. It's not some all powerful being.

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01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 1: There are so many parts to American society beyond the

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01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 1: Oval office, and the leftists control almost all of them.

1179
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 1: Why the left plays offense? Have you ever heard of

1180
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 1: media matters? Maybe you have, maybe you haven't. It's this

1181
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 1: radical leftist organization website something. Do you know what they

1182
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 1: will do? They've done it to me, They'll do it again.

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01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 1: Do you know what they do? This is how committed

1184
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: the leftists are to winning the culture war. They'll wait

1185
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 1: until I say something controversial or relatively controversial, which, let's

1186
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:10,719
Speaker 1: be frank, that's about every day. They then have phone

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01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 1: banks of people set up with separate phones who will

1188
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 1: repeatedly call my advertisers as if they're all a different person,

1189
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 1: so that advertiser thinks everybody's mad about something I just

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01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: said and will try to cancel me. Is that disgusting,

1191
01:33:33,479 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 1: you bet? But it works. Hang on the Jesse Alicia

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01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 1: hometitlelock dot com. You see home title theft doesn't get

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01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 1: the pub the guests, which one the FBI is actually

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01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 1: concerned about. They're not, actually not worried about identity theft

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01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 1: or credit card theft. I mean, shoot, I'll tell you

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01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 1: multiple times I've had my credit card number stolen online.

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01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 1: And you know how much money it's costs me all

1198
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 1: those times? Not a dime, not a single dime. Credit

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01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: card company reimburses you. They go track things down, they

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01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: handle it all themselves. It's not a big deal at all.

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01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 1: It's just not Home title theft is a whole different ballgame.

1202
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 1: They steal your home title. They get your signature on

1203
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: your home title. They do all this digitally, and they

1204
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 1: take out a loan against it. Once they do that,

1205
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 1: guess who has to pay that money back. You have

1206
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 1: to pay that money back. It is a major crime

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01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 1: right now in the United States. Go to home titlelock

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01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 1: dot com. Don't forget to use the code Jesse get

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01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 1: you thirty free day hometitlelock dot com. All right, I

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01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: guess I'm gonna have to address it, Greg Abbott. Today

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01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 1: two Day has reclosed Texas. All bars are closed, all

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01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:54,719
Speaker 1: of them, every single one. Restaurants limited in capacity, rafting,

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01:35:54,800 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 1: tubing businesses closed. Um. I don't want to be Debbie

1214
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:10,520
Speaker 1: Downer on a Friday, but I will tell you this.

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01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:15,640
Speaker 1: This was the danger. This was the immortal danger that

1216
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 1: I warned everybody about, not when it was convenient, not

1217
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 1: when it was safe, not when everyone else was saying. So,

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01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: this was the danger I warned about when everybody was screaming,

1219
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 1: go home, lockdown, hide under your bed. We have to

1220
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 1: go home. The governor says, we go home, go home,

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01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 1: go home, go home. You have to lock down. The

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01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 1: Governor's not allowing us to open the Governor's ordering us

1223
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:54,680
Speaker 1: to close. And I came on the radio and I

1224
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 1: told each and every one of you, we have opened

1225
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: Pandoras box. It is a dangerous, dangerous precedent to tell

1226
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 1: governors and mayors across the United States of America they

1227
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: have the authority to order you to surrender your livelihood.

1228
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 1: I told you all when everyone else was screaming, do

1229
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 1: not let them do this. Why. It's not because I

1230
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 1: think they're all bad people, although some of them undoubtedly are.

1231
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 1: How many history stories have I sat behind this microphone

1232
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 1: and told you, how often have you heard of a

1233
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 1: man gaining the power to do something and not using it.

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01:37:55,360 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 1: That is the history of the world, people, That is

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01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 1: the history of the world. The history of the world

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01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 1: is man acquiring power and using that power. Period. I

1237
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:23,640
Speaker 1: told you all, do not let governors and mayors decide

1238
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 1: which businesses can open in which businesses can't. They're never

1239
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 1: ever going to forget that we as Americans, have given

1240
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: them that power. And I'll tell you something, and this

1241
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 1: is the truth. The Republican Party has completely abandoned us.

1242
01:38:54,840 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 1: The reason you and I feel abandoned and surrounded and

1243
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: without a powerful defender at virtually any government level, is

1244
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 1: because you are abandoned and surrounded and without a powerful

1245
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: defender at virtually any government level. You're feeling it. It

1246
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 1: is true, that's a fact. These people have walked out

1247
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 1: on us. Where are the people who fight for liberty

1248
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 1: in this country? Where are they? Where are they? And

1249
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 1: it's funny, I didn't notice many people stopping these protests,

1250
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matter protests spreading across the United States

1251
01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 1: of America for the last three weeks. People couldn't be

1252
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 1: bothered to call in the National Guard, or forgetting about

1253
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 1: the national Guard. The national Guard should have never had

1254
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:11,759
Speaker 1: to been called. These mayors couldn't be bothered to roll

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01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 1: out the riot control police departments and disperse these crowds.

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01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 1: Don't want to look bad. We certainly can't look racist,

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01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 1: after all, it's the cops that are the problem. We

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01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,719
Speaker 1: can't We have to look nice. We can't look racist.

1259
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 1: And now we have coronavirus cases spiking all over the country.

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01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 1: And you're going to tell me that I have to

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01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 1: shut down again. You're going to tell me I don't

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01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 1: get to keep my business that I worked hard for.

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Speaker 1: You're going to tell me I have to look at

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Speaker 1: my employees in the eye and say sorry, you're fired.

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Speaker 1: Who are these people? I had? Somebody asked me earlier

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Speaker 1: as and ask doctor Jesse question, how do we beat

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Speaker 1: the highly funded destruction in our country when the right

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01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 1: seems to have given up? So allow me to tell

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01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: you the good news. And this is the good news

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Speaker 1: leadership vacuums, which is most definitely what we have now,

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Speaker 1: a leadership vacuum. Leadership vacuums always, universally are a temporary thing.

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Speaker 1: The bad news is this right now. Yes, we have

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Speaker 1: balkanized as a nation. We are racing in opposite directions,

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Speaker 1: and the leaders we have at the local, state and

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Speaker 1: federal level lack the spine to do something about it,

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Speaker 1: to challenge these narratives, to push back. They're running scared,

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Speaker 1: they're hiding. They're too scared of being called this name

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Speaker 1: or called that name. Yes, things are bad, Douglas MacArthur

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01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 1: has hopped on a boat and left us hair on

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Speaker 1: the Baton peninsula. However, new leaders will rise and fill

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Speaker 1: that vacuum. It doesn't seem like it at the time.

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Speaker 1: It never does. When a vacuum is created, Ah, it's

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Speaker 1: empty forever. But that's why it's called a vacuum it

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Speaker 1: gets filled, somebody will step up and fill it in

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Speaker 1: this country. I don't know who that's gonna be. I

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01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 1: don't know if he's out there already or if he's

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Speaker 1: still to come. Might be Tom Cotton, hearing some good

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Speaker 1: things about him, don't know enough about him. Might be

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01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 1: that Rhonda Santis in Florida. That guy has impressed the

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Speaker 1: heck out of me. Florida is a state that can

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Speaker 1: go either way at any time. You get elected down there,

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Speaker 1: Republican or Democrat with razor thin margins. So this is

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Speaker 1: easily a man who could have gotten elected governor of

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Speaker 1: Florida and then raced to the middle like every other

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Speaker 1: Republican does. Well, I want to look really nice. Rhonda

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Speaker 1: Santis got elected. Rhonda Santis has stayed right on what

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Speaker 1: he campaigned on, and I have several several friends in Florida.

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Speaker 1: They speak very, very very highly of the man. I

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Speaker 1: don't know whether it's him. I don't know who it's

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Speaker 1: going to be, even though I am Jesse the Oracle,

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01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 1: Kelly Chris. I don't know who it's going to be.

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01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:43,679
Speaker 1: But I do know this, it's going to be somebody.

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01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 1: It's going to be somebody. I know it for a fact.

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01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 1: Take heart. Things are going to get better. However, I

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01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:07,599
Speaker 1: do have extreme, extreme doubts that we're going to win

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Speaker 1: the election in November. Now, the bad news is this.

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01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 1: The bad news is this Trump is down in every pool.

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01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:22,679
Speaker 1: The good news is Joe Biden is completely non functional

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01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 1: as an adult. And all right, now it's only an

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01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 1: indictment on Trump. It becomes an indictment on Biden once

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Speaker 1: it gets out in public, so maybe things change. Hang

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Speaker 1: on joining me now, I'm going to totally geek out

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01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 1: with this guy, Chris, somebody who actually knows history instead

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Speaker 1: of somebody like me. Doctor Winfrid McClay, history professor, University

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01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma wants me to call him Bill. I'm way

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01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,599
Speaker 1: too intimidated to do that. I opened every single show

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Speaker 1: talking about history. On this show a different history story,

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01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 1: and now I get to talk to someone who actually

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01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 1: knows something. Doctor, how long did it take you to

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Speaker 1: become a doctor of history? Was that just awesome or

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01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 1: was it brutal and miserable and boring? It was a

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Speaker 1: little of each, you know, there was plenty of brutal,

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01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 1: miserable and miserable and boring. But I had a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun along way, and I met my wife in

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01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 1: branch of school, so it redeemed everything. But now, well,

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Speaker 1: it took about six years from started to finish. I

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01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 1: didn't major in history as an undergrad, so I had

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Speaker 1: a real cold shower experience the first couple of ye

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01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 1: kind of getting up to speed, but it went pretty

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Speaker 1: well after that. I had a great advisor, a guy

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Speaker 1: named Kenneth Lynn. Some of your listeners would really benefit

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01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:13,600
Speaker 1: from looking at his stuff. He wasn't terrific. He's no

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Speaker 1: longer with us, but terrific writer and very hilarious and

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01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:24,160
Speaker 1: just a big, big example to me. So yeah, son,

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01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:26,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't so bad. It wasn't so bad. I went

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Speaker 1: to Johns Hopkins in Baltimore, which was at that time

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Speaker 1: I think, a pretty relatively conservative place. I don't think

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01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 1: it is as much as it was, but then what

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01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 1: is as much as it was? So but as I say,

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Speaker 1: it was not brutal at all, except occasionally. I am

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Speaker 1: thrilled to find out we have history professors still in

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Speaker 1: this country interested in actually teaching every aspect of history.

1343
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 1: I mean, we opened up the show today, we were

1344
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 1: talking about the Baton death March and things like that,

1345
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, and just it is

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01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 1: the history is so complicated, and we like to make

1347
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 1: everything as good versus evil and simplify everything, and that's

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Speaker 1: just not the case. Oh no, it's ridiculous. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, of course this latest a moral panic that

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01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:20,600
Speaker 1: we're going through, uh, which now I mean comminating in

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01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 1: the Dixie Chicks not renaming themselves the chicks. H It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: And where I particularly get off is someone like Thomas Jefferson. Well,

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Speaker 1: I actually have a lot of reservations about if we

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01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:39,679
Speaker 1: in my own way, but um to sort of throw

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Speaker 1: him on the trash heap of history just because he

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Speaker 1: was a slave owner and he actually was opposed to slavery,

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01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:48,759
Speaker 1: he just didn't quite have the ability to come across

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Speaker 1: with freeing his own slaves. He had too much a

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Speaker 1: dead and other things standing in the way. But this

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Speaker 1: is still a great man. And you know, John is

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Speaker 1: the civil rights guy who's now his longtime congressman from Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Was asked, I don't have the exact quote in front

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Speaker 1: of me, because he was asking after what do you

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01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 1: think of Jefferson? And he said, Jefferson, Yeah, we knew

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Speaker 1: about the bad side of him, but he was an

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Speaker 1: inspiration to us. He was the fountain. He uses that term.

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Speaker 1: He was the fountain from which all that is good

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Speaker 1: about America, all was good about the civil rights movement came.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if it's good enough for John Lewis,

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Speaker 1: it ought to be good enough for these bokesters marching

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Speaker 1: in the streets and screaming at the police. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's complicated. If you're exactly right, nobody is pure evil

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Speaker 1: and pure good. And you know, anybody who goes around

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Speaker 1: holding other people to that standard ought to expect at

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Speaker 1: some point they will be held to that standard. And

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01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:59,719
Speaker 1: when they are, they're going to be found wanting because

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01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 1: none of us can meet that standard. So um, if

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Speaker 1: I could mention this on your show, so crass to

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01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 1: mention my book, and you've never had any anybody on

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01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:14,680
Speaker 1: your show do anything like that, but I'll But I

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01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: wrote a book called A Land of Hope, an Invitation

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Speaker 1: to the Great American Story, and it really was meant

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01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 1: to be a textbook to displace some of the really

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01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 1: rotten textbooks that are just about all we have out there,

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Speaker 1: particularly that Hallington's People's History of the United States, and

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01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 1: but even the main more or less mainstream textbooks are

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01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:44,839
Speaker 1: very very bad in kind of conveying a balanced sense

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Speaker 1: of this country. And I don't mean a totally NonStop

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Speaker 1: celebratory vision. I mean just a balanced view of the

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Speaker 1: goods and the good, the bad, and ugly said to speak.

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Speaker 1: And so I wrote that, and it's been going great

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Speaker 1: guns and I really recommend it to your readers, to

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01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 1: your listeners and readers that the Land of Hope invitation

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Speaker 1: to the Great American Story publisfying encounter and which, as

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Speaker 1: you know, is a great, great publisher. Land of Hope

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Speaker 1: invitation to the Great American Story. I'm going to get it,

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Speaker 1: because I will tell you, as a history freak, it's

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Speaker 1: driving me nuts to try to find something that I

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Speaker 1: can teach my sons about history, Rob for the reasons

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Speaker 1: you just laid out every part of American history now

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01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 1: and again, like you said, I don't need NonStop Fourth

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01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 1: of July fireworks. America's perfect stuff. But I also don't

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01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:41,679
Speaker 1: want to teach them America sucks. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of what we're seeing now. That is a lot,

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01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 1: and that's a lot of what these these somewhat demented

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01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 1: and certainly morally uptight, particularly the women marching in these marches.

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01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're just they're all caught up. I

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01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 1: think this sense that America sucks and that's what they've

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Speaker 1: been taught. Uh. Now, I have some sympathy for them

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01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 1: on that level. I mean, they were paying attention in class,

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01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 1: you know they uh and and what they what they

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01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 1: got out of class was this this sense of guilt

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Speaker 1: over over their race, over their nationality, over their socioeconomic situation,

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01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 1: over their education, over blond hair, you name it. They're

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01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 1: they're guilty about all of it. And this is so

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01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 1: wrong and needless and anathetical to what America is as

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Speaker 1: a as a land of hope, a land of opportunity,

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01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 1: of land where we're able to pursue our ambitions, our

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Speaker 1: potentialities as to the greatest degree possible any anywhere in

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Speaker 1: the world. And I think that's still true. It's it's

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01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 1: remarkable how true it still is. Doctor. I assume the

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Speaker 1: University of Oklahoma gives you the freedom to teach history

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Speaker 1: in a more frank, even handed way, and I commend

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01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 1: them for that, because that's not popular in the university

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01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 1: system these days. My question is do you get pushed

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01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:15,639
Speaker 1: back a lot from your students when you're preventing presenting

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Speaker 1: a more even handed approach to history. No, not so much,

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01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: just from the other The other professors said that not.

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01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 1: The students I think are very happy to get and

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01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 1: I actually try to keep them guessing. And I some

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01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 1: of them know that I'm a conservative, but a lot

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01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 1: of them don't. And they and I like to try

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01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: to keep them guessing by being as fair minded as

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01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:43,520
Speaker 1: I can be. H. No, it's the colleagues who are dogmatic.

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Speaker 1: And I hate to I mean, I love the University

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Speaker 1: of Oklahoma. It's been a great place for me. But

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Speaker 1: you know, the faculties are pretty much the same all

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Speaker 1: over the place. I mean, we all go the same

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01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 1: graduate schools. We're all sort of socialized into professional historical

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01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 1: writing in the same way. There's a real ideological, um,

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01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, monochrome quality to academic history. And to write

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01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 1: my book Land of Hope, I had to really just

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01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 1: sort of set that aside. And you know that the

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01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 1: general public teachers really loved the book. Um, I haven't

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01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 1: heard too much from my colleagues about it. I think

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01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 1: they're they're maybe a little bit embarrassed by it, but

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01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how little that matters to me.

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01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 1: I think they we have a lot to answer for

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01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:49,760
Speaker 1: in a way that the last two generations or so

1450
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 1: of young people have been miseducated. So I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: I tried to do my little bit with Land of

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01:53:55,479 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 1: Hope and sort of turning that around and um, and

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01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not a book that you would pull

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Speaker 1: down off the shelf to answer every little question, like neil, doctor,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to get you off. Is there any way

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01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 1: I can hold you over and ask you just one

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01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 1: or two more questions that after this pot And by

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Speaker 1: the way, I want to send you a copy of

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Speaker 1: the books, So I need to get your address. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I want it, and we will give it to you

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Speaker 1: off the air, Doctor Winford McCay, University of Oklahoma History professor,

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Speaker 1: the author of Land of Hope. Hang on, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: What do you think happens if this stock market blows

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Speaker 1: and all your money's in stocks and bonds and you're

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Speaker 1: close to retirement age your toast, You are now going

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Speaker 1: to have to work for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 1: Does that sound awful? You want to work at a

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Speaker 1: fast food joint when you're eighty, or you want to

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Speaker 1: Go there now protect your finances. Oklahoma history professor doctor

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Speaker 1: Winfrid McClay is on the line has an actual history

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Speaker 1: book out there that doesn't say America sucks for five

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Speaker 1: hundred pages, and we applaud him very much for that. Doctor.

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Speaker 1: You are in what I consider to be the belly

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Speaker 1: of the beast. Full disclosure. I spend lots of time

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Speaker 1: bagging on the American university system because I think it

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Speaker 1: has become anti American and it teaches these young people

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Speaker 1: bad things. If you agree that that is relatively true,

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Speaker 1: how did that happen and how did you avoid it? Well,

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Speaker 1: I agree that it is mostly true. Um, and uh,

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Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a slow process. You know.

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Speaker 1: The left has always been very had played the long game,

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Speaker 1: and they're they're a very methodical about kind of the

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Speaker 1: way they infiltrate into over things. I think there's and

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Speaker 1: I think liberalism, which I by which I mean something

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Speaker 1: up its leptism. But liberalism has a weak point in

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Speaker 1: that it Liberals are very anxious about seeming to be illiberal,

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Speaker 1: you know, so they let things in the door that

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Speaker 1: they really ought to have. It's like they have the

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Speaker 1: damage immune systems, say, they let things in the door

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Speaker 1: that they really shouldn't. The next thing, you know, you

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Speaker 1: have your department being taken over by people who have

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Speaker 1: radical views or who are activists or both. And one

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Speaker 1: of the ways in the sixties, I think one of

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Speaker 1: the things that happened is that university administrators, many of them,

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Speaker 1: tried to hold the line for a kind of traditional

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01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 1: standards of excellence and so on, and they sometimes they prevailed,

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Speaker 1: a lot of times they didn't. I think the lesson

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Speaker 1: they learned from that is to give in, and so

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Speaker 1: they do. They very rarely, particularly when it's something that

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Speaker 1: deals with questions of race or or sex, gender you know, um, uh,

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Speaker 1: they're they're very unlikely to hold the line. And one

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Speaker 1: of the ways that they managed to kind of um

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Speaker 1: incorporate what these discision groups want them to is to

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Speaker 1: create studies programs. So you have gender studies, you have

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Speaker 1: Afro American studies, you have Hispanic studies, you have the

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Speaker 1: Native Americans. They're very big at at ou UM. And

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Speaker 1: not all of these departments are are of low academic quality,

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Speaker 1: but most of them are. Uh. I would say any

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Speaker 1: any department that has the word studies and the titles

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Speaker 1: that they regarded with theisticians and these are things that

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Speaker 1: were sort of outside the academic disciplines and um that

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Speaker 1: you know, that's one of the things in the decline

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Speaker 1: has really come into humanities and the social sciences and

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Speaker 1: the sciences a hard science. Um. There's some problems there, admittedly,

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Speaker 1: and there's some politicization, especially in recent years, but not

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Speaker 1: to the same extent that there is in the humanity.

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Speaker 1: I mean, humanities are just about shot, I think, and

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Speaker 1: there's a few of us. Unfortunately, I have several colleagues,

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Speaker 1: you know you who are just superb people. But that

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Speaker 1: coast to the second part of your question. How do

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Speaker 1: they how do they do it? How do they get

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Speaker 1: through graduate school, get themselves hired and tenured and still

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Speaker 1: be the people in the old Uh? You know so

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Speaker 1: of humanist vein and um, it's it's difficult. You have

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Speaker 1: to find you have to kind of thread your way

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Speaker 1: through the system. I mentioned my advisor. That's all important.

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Speaker 1: Any of your listeners who are thinking about going to

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Speaker 1: graduate school pay attention to who the person you will

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Speaker 1: be working with, uh, and not just the institution. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's really important. And so that's one of the ways.

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Speaker 1: And and all the people I'm thinking of very attentive

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Speaker 1: to that. And uh, but you're going to run into problems.

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Speaker 1: And it's more and more true. I mean, I look

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Speaker 1: at the people coming out of graduate school now, and

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Speaker 1: there's some who I know have a receptivity to conservative

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Speaker 1: or libertarian ideas, but they don't dare even to even

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Speaker 1: to indicate it to me, you know, what could be

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Speaker 1: savored and indicating it to be now, they're very very careful,

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Speaker 1: very cautious students increasingly are that way. I think that's

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Speaker 1: actually something to get back to your question about students.

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Speaker 1: What I've noticed about students by and Lars and I'm

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Speaker 1: not talking about the really flaming activist types, but most students,

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Speaker 1: they're more subdued, more subterranean, less likely to express an

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Speaker 1: opinion out of fear that they will have said something that, Oh,

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Speaker 1: even though that was correct yesterday, it's not correct today.

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Speaker 1: So there's this kind of scholarists like feeling to the

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Speaker 1: atmosphere for them. I hope I'm not exaggerating too much

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Speaker 1: by putting it that way, but I will tell you

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Speaker 1: I used to I love to teach through discussion. I'm

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Speaker 1: very much a partisan of that, and I'm finding it

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Speaker 1: harder and harder to teach that way over the last

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Speaker 1: five or six years. I mean, there's been a dramatic change.

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Speaker 1: And other people I know say the same thing, that

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Speaker 1: the students are much more reticent, much less willing to

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Speaker 1: take chances with the things they say in class, the

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Speaker 1: things they write about. They're very you know, I have

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Speaker 1: some wonderful students, but I remember one day in one

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Speaker 1: of my classes it was actually called the idea of

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Speaker 1: liberty as the name of the class, great class, and

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Speaker 1: we somehow the issue of someone used the word microaggressions

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Speaker 1: and I sort of smile, yeah when that we never

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Speaker 1: used that word around here for a doctor. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: real quick. We have got to wrap up the show.

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Speaker 1: Plug your book again really quickly. Yeah, Land of Hope

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Speaker 1: Invitation to the Great American Story published by Encounter Books.

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Speaker 1: It's available in colt only now. It will be available

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Speaker 1: paper in January. Thank you so much, doctor Winfrid McClay,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, it was absolutely wonderful. We will have

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