WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Glasses Malone On Street Ethics, Jada & Will, Men Marrying Hoes + More

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<v Speaker 1>Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Morning, everybody in Steve j n V. Charlamagne, the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the breakfast Club. We got a special guest

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<v Speaker 2>in the building, my guy Classes Malone's welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Back brother crying, laughing, Man.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens?

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<v Speaker 4>You're eventful dog. You just no this trip to every

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<v Speaker 4>time I come to New York, the trip being ventful. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>my toro caught a flat you renal, Yeah, my toro, right, so.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not big. It's not big here, but his toro

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<v Speaker 2>is big everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like, so we got here soon as we

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<v Speaker 4>got off the airplane. Right, we got off of Guardian,

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<v Speaker 4>So we get to Touro pick up the car. The

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<v Speaker 4>car is sketchy.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the man didn't change it in the last minute.

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<v Speaker 4>So he went from a twenty twenty camera to a

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<v Speaker 4>twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>A laundra. Okay, you know you notice a different. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to turn the lights on.

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't used to get in the cars that the

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<v Speaker 4>lights don't automatically come on at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon as we get we leaving, we want the.

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<v Speaker 4>Queens to eat to that's this little barbecue spot. The

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<v Speaker 4>police pull us over, have us for thirty minutes, damn.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm just thinking this whole trip, it's just been crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, soon as we get pulled over, right, the

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<v Speaker 4>man asking us all kinds of questions, like what y'all

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<v Speaker 4>doing in New York. I was like, man, I'm come

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<v Speaker 4>to do some press and this, that and the third.

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<v Speaker 4>So were telling him we come from the airport. I

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<v Speaker 4>showed the man the ticket and everything, and the man

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<v Speaker 4>just talking to me cousin. I'm like, yeah, man, we

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<v Speaker 4>just came in. He's like, you know, y'all got some

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<v Speaker 4>in the luggage, nigga, we had to be the greatest

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<v Speaker 4>international smugglers in the world to get.

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<v Speaker 1>It from the airport.

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<v Speaker 4>So we get there, We finally eat bn we go

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<v Speaker 4>to the Airbnb, so they.

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<v Speaker 2>Let y'all go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but took thirty minutes. The lights wasn't known in

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<v Speaker 1>the car. Yeah, but it was just weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Then the next day we're going to meet up with

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<v Speaker 4>a hommy, my homeboy, Trey that writing stuff for the

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<v Speaker 4>Athletic in New York Times, her riding for sports and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Trey Edwards the toro catch a flat when we coming

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<v Speaker 4>through the Lincoln Town so then we stuck on fifty fifth.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's that fifty fifth and like.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably like fifth Avenue just parked on the street in

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<v Speaker 4>front of the dunkin Donuts for like four hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they were a sign to get some donuts.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>We even got some steak okay, And then I went

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<v Speaker 4>to the steakhouse. Then I went to my favor, my

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<v Speaker 4>favorite steakhouse in New York. Uh Del Friscos. They wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>let U see.

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<v Speaker 2>What sweats up yeah, twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, damn, so we can't eve that my favorite.

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<v Speaker 4>So we go to another steakhouse and it was cool,

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<v Speaker 4>and we waited on the people.

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<v Speaker 1>From to row.

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<v Speaker 4>So we reported the old the whole ship, and they

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<v Speaker 4>sent the road side assistance. And by the time the

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<v Speaker 4>roadside systems have come, it's eight hours. The tire shop

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<v Speaker 4>is two blocks.

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<v Speaker 5>You could have just drove two blocks and gotta fix yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Well not on the flat t yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they could have ran on now.

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<v Speaker 4>So then I didn't know the address changed. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>been an eventful New York.

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<v Speaker 5>But you went to the old ad just this morning, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it boarded up?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was weird. You couldn't get in.

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<v Speaker 4>It had a weird door to the lobby, and men

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<v Speaker 4>was like, yeah, we ain't you know they left in January.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh we've been going. We've been Yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>why to produce it. Didn't tell you that it's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just been one of them New York trip here

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<v Speaker 1>the bullshit. Hey man, it's all good that I got. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, why are you still doing physical CDs? I already

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<v Speaker 3>bought tennedy.

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<v Speaker 4>I have it for you right now. Okay, hold up,

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<v Speaker 4>I got something for you every special cause at this

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<v Speaker 4>right here. Yeah, that's dope. Why are you still doing this?

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<v Speaker 4>Why I still see these so as an independent? Because

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<v Speaker 4>right you sell four thousand copies. I sell mine's autograph

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<v Speaker 4>at twenty five dollars. That's how you do your business.

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<v Speaker 4>M simple as that. Everything else is streaming is good,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. But that's a royalty. You

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<v Speaker 4>still got to sell music. My music good enough, though.

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<v Speaker 4>I really believe my shit good enough to sell. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be selling this though.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's called cancel these nuts.

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<v Speaker 6>To explain that title, it's pretty it's pretty pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I mean you talk to me enough

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<v Speaker 1>to know I don't really give.

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<v Speaker 4>I really just I'm honest with what I think, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not really intimidated. I feel like the industry, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the h the powers that be didn't make me, so

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<v Speaker 4>they can't break me, and they can't take what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just saying all the stuff I want to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I think canceled coaches on this last legs anyway.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, I actually think it's over because I think people

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<v Speaker 6>finally realize that it's all a circular firing squad.

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<v Speaker 1>So you may.

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<v Speaker 6>Shoot at that person today, but then it's gonna come

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<v Speaker 6>around in your turn eventually.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, so you feel like it's only be because it was,

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<v Speaker 4>like I don't want nobody to remember.

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<v Speaker 6>I think everybody's like, I don't want to be a hypocrit.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want to contradict myself. I know I probably

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<v Speaker 6>got some bullshit that people could bring up to and

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<v Speaker 6>if you hold everybody to the same standard, it's only

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<v Speaker 6>a matter of time before it's either you are somebody

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<v Speaker 6>you really really uck with that they calling to get canceled.

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<v Speaker 6>So what side you're gonna be on?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we definitely in this special where I think everything

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<v Speaker 4>is starting to be just obviously true, Like you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember five years ago, Jada and Will was goals.

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<v Speaker 4>That shit spoiled like milk, nobody know what to do,

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that's a coach is the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think all the ideas was never none permanent anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I kind of don't really get on trends

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<v Speaker 4>like that.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think what you're saying is, you know, everybody

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<v Speaker 6>had this vision of perfection, whether it was Jad and Will,

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<v Speaker 6>they had a vision of perfection, whether it's the way

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<v Speaker 6>we're supposed to move in society, it's a vision of perfection.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing's perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's what I'm saying, Like, how do we start

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<v Speaker 4>at that place from it? Like, how do we get

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<v Speaker 4>started with that? I was just having this whole conversation

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<v Speaker 4>about the same thing, like there's no way possible, especially

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<v Speaker 4>women chase that specific thing perfection, and it's no way possible.

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<v Speaker 1>So even setting somebody else as a.

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<v Speaker 4>Goal is ridiculous. I was listening to this shit jay

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<v Speaker 4>Z was saying. He was like five hundred thousand. He

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<v Speaker 4>was like, y'all just take the five hundred thousand. Jay

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<v Speaker 4>Z said that about jay Z for the five hundred

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<v Speaker 4>thousand yep, and I was like, damn, well, the truth

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<v Speaker 4>is coming.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like my time. It's good time to be a

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<v Speaker 1>live for me. You know what I mean. It's honest.

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<v Speaker 5>Niggas tell me the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>But at that time, the world wasn't really like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>accepting to the truth. Last time I was here, I

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<v Speaker 4>was niggas was threatening in my life over a song.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you did Tupac mus die So.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, why are you mad at me

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<v Speaker 1>for telling the truth? It was enough.

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<v Speaker 4>The nigga that made the song. He made a song

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<v Speaker 4>that was like some kind of crazy Tupac conspiracy idea

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<v Speaker 4>about soul and the Illuminati and shit. And I remember

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<v Speaker 4>watching this interview. He was like, man, this guy stole

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<v Speaker 4>my song. And I was like, I never heard of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And in the interview he's like, yeah, you know, well

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<v Speaker 4>if glasses you know in his story that don't even

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<v Speaker 4>make sense. Whoever heard a story like that? I bet

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<v Speaker 4>you that nigga somewhere looking like oh shit.

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<v Speaker 6>But you had you You had first hand knowledge of

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<v Speaker 6>the situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Not not not only just firsthand knowledge, it was just

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<v Speaker 4>common knowledge amongst everybody in the streets and the like.

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<v Speaker 1>We all knew in real time what was going on.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you shouldn't have put it in a song. You

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<v Speaker 6>should have sat down with Black TV and told the story.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Heavy.

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<v Speaker 5>Situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Keevy is crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm praying for him, you know what I mean. He

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<v Speaker 4>in a tough situation. It's gonna be tough as a motherfucker,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. You gotta fight a case.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm sure you're gonna get a turny, good representation.

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<v Speaker 4>And I doubt that a lot of the interviews is

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<v Speaker 4>something they could really use. I'm interested to see the discovery,

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<v Speaker 4>to see what they really have. As far as ever

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<v Speaker 4>you booking those interviews, Yeah, I need to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye gotta make that.

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<v Speaker 3>One last that they even reached out to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Was on the news. He was like, yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>my interviews.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like this, nigga, is you need as a

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<v Speaker 4>as a journalist?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Now, why hasn't been eight years since a Glasshouse two?

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<v Speaker 6>Last House two is your last album?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Same same mission. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>When I first started figuring all this stuff out, I

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<v Speaker 4>was learning hip hop. Last time I saw y'all you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. Before the last time, I was

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<v Speaker 4>just figuring it all out, same thing, figuring it all

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<v Speaker 4>out and taking my time getting back into the space

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure I can make something that represented where

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<v Speaker 4>we was at as far as the getto in general.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so many.

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<v Speaker 4>Where street urban culture at as a whole is in

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<v Speaker 4>such a funky place to where like you could like

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<v Speaker 4>a rapper dog and he'll be your guy, he'd be busting,

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<v Speaker 4>he got all the cuts. But then he'll do some

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<v Speaker 4>whole ass ship and then you'll be stuck with it

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<v Speaker 4>some ship that don't represent you, like you might like

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<v Speaker 4>this rapper right and then cuz gonna just wear some

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<v Speaker 4>figure out polis.

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<v Speaker 6>Stop looking for perfection the same way we can't look

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<v Speaker 6>for perfection and Jayden will or people in your street ship,

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<v Speaker 6>you can't look for perfection.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that wh not because that's not

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<v Speaker 1>cool to you.

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<v Speaker 6>To me first of all, you know, I hate the

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<v Speaker 6>street conversation because I think the street ship is silly.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you the ultimate.

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<v Speaker 1>Street that's not what you all your always.

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<v Speaker 3>You got it, you got it a lot, you got

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<v Speaker 3>paint a fingernails.

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<v Speaker 5>Does that make you soft.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody who got all the cocaine will paint their fingernails.

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<v Speaker 5>Why that's.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not what If you like this rapper right, he

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<v Speaker 4>wearing a dress, or if you like this rapper, he

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<v Speaker 4>wearing a purse, it's like they know it, y'all. Don't

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<v Speaker 4>really believe in your heart that it's something going to

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<v Speaker 4>the street dudes will wear dresses and the street street

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<v Speaker 4>dudes that wear dresses.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever, this new generation different.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the generation glasses. You don't see people men

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<v Speaker 2>wearing persons all the time. No, only niggas that follow

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<v Speaker 2>rap I don't. I've never been to a ghetto niggas

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<v Speaker 2>was wearing persons. You can't go to one borough, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't go to Month's Corner even in the country or

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<v Speaker 2>any ghetto, and niggas is walking around with persons.

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<v Speaker 6>Where is this happening into the hood in a long time.

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<v Speaker 6>So I don't know what they're doing. But they had

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<v Speaker 6>the person and they had a glock in there ready

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<v Speaker 6>to bust.

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<v Speaker 1>They would be a girl with a gun. Girls got guns.

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<v Speaker 3>Little girls can't be street.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes they are, but it's a girl.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, you gotta think eventually that it's a reason they

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<v Speaker 4>doing it. This ain't as simple as I just wanted,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I just felt I wanted, come on, man, No,

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<v Speaker 4>no man wakes up wanting to just wear a purse.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, we've never saw a person like me. That's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I want that. That don't even connect.

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<v Speaker 4>So again we be in these weird spaces where we

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<v Speaker 4>just again still kind of just be feline there. I

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<v Speaker 4>can't go to no ghetto and every man is walking

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<v Speaker 4>around with a purse. It's still gonna be a selective

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<v Speaker 4>few who trying to go against the grain based off

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<v Speaker 4>of what they saw somebody else.

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<v Speaker 3>What does the street dude in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 4>Anybody that grew up in street urban culture. It don't

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<v Speaker 4>mean you have to be a criminal. It's just it

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<v Speaker 4>raised you. It's you know, really, religion and street ethics

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<v Speaker 4>are the only thing that create morality. Regular people don't

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<v Speaker 4>have morals. It's just they go by laws.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't really have no morals.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think street people have morals anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they do.

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<v Speaker 4>If you from the street, you don't have no choice

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<v Speaker 4>because you gotta be whatever you say.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna come with accountability.

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<v Speaker 6>I get what n be saying I feel like they

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<v Speaker 6>used to have a moertain amount of principles. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know if i'll call it more, I would say principles

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<v Speaker 6>in the street. I don't know those principles too. I

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<v Speaker 6>think morals and ethics too, because there's certain things that

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<v Speaker 6>wouldn't happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, But again, everything always happened back in the day, right,

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<v Speaker 4>But it was Also, I think we keep confusing what

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<v Speaker 4>we're seeing on social media as the streets, and it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's the truth is that that's not the street.

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<v Speaker 4>Social media is a completely different place that you can

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<v Speaker 4>go and do anything. So when I talk to my

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<v Speaker 4>own boys, it's the same thing that I just got

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<v Speaker 4>this Gucci purse, not one ghetto. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 4>I called my it's not me.

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<v Speaker 1>See, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Know how you feel.

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<v Speaker 4>No, listen, that is not true. Nobody is wearing a purse.

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<v Speaker 4>Why would a man wear a purse?

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<v Speaker 3>They got man purses. They call it the one that man.

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<v Speaker 1>A satchel.

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<v Speaker 5>Purse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a satchel.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll call it a satchel.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not no.

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<v Speaker 4>They no, they be wearing purses like designer person or

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<v Speaker 4>fingernail polish or dresses were telling. It's like telling like

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<v Speaker 4>we can't even come to snitching.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy is crazy, man, But it seems like it's

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like it's so normal right now people people

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<v Speaker 2>accept stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do we act like firsther of all, stinching ain't normal.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, snitch ain't new. I don't know a time

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<v Speaker 3>when they happen.

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<v Speaker 4>It's normalized now though, it's normal, but it's not. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on on the internet. Ain't like hip hop

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<v Speaker 4>really used to be a representation of what was going

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<v Speaker 4>on in the community. At this point, it's far this

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<v Speaker 4>it's like removed, like, I don't know, it's not the same.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, right, people have always snitched, and back in

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<v Speaker 4>the day, niggas used to have like shame, like you

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<v Speaker 4>didn't just die for snitching.

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<v Speaker 1>You moved off and you realized the street life wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people got killed, some people got beat up and

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<v Speaker 4>stitches and all that. But for the most part, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>people used to just move off. They would just go

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<v Speaker 4>off into the yonder and realize get you know, go

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<v Speaker 4>boy Andre changes Now he ain't Big Dre no more Andre.

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<v Speaker 4>He just some regular nigga living his life, working at

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<v Speaker 4>the factory. Now, niggas will be in the midst of

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<v Speaker 4>shit still right then and there. The only thing that's

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<v Speaker 4>changes niggas don't have shame, ain't no more shame is missing.

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<v Speaker 4>So snitching has always happened, right, but it used to

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<v Speaker 4>come with accountability. It wouldn't be like in Gunner situation.

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<v Speaker 4>He wouldn't be runs motherfucker floorting around like Hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna go do concerts, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>showcase myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah blah. He'd be like, all right, let

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<v Speaker 1>me go sit my eyes down, let me not talk tough.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. Obviously this is not cut

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<v Speaker 1>out for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, was like, okay, well, the average human, average everyday

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<v Speaker 4>person don't really care, so I can still make my money.

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<v Speaker 4>So they don't even care about what's going on, like

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<v Speaker 4>their reputation. They just like, what fucking I'm.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't think Gunna getting ad a bad rap because the

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<v Speaker 6>person that he allegedly told on hasn't said that and

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<v Speaker 6>his dad, Thug's dad even said Gunna didn't do anything

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<v Speaker 6>that would hurt Thug's case.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not true.

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<v Speaker 4>If your whole if the whole premise of your case

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<v Speaker 4>is built off, if the whole charges you are running

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<v Speaker 4>a record label, that's a game. And somebody says, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it is a gang, it's obvious. It's not even like

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<v Speaker 4>one of my young homies, mom, but young homie Reil.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like, oh man, you know I need to

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<v Speaker 4>see paperwork, bro, it's on tape.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's obvious. It's obvious. They said they said they

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<v Speaker 3>were a gang in records and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But you have to deny it. That's the point of it.

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<v Speaker 4>So right, you have to deny it when it's a

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<v Speaker 4>legal charge. So when he was like, yes, are you

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<v Speaker 4>saying that wy Sail is the street? Yes, ma'am, that's telling.

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<v Speaker 6>So Thug's father saying him what Gunna said had nothing

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<v Speaker 6>to do did not hurt their case in no way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. It's not about does it hurt the case.

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<v Speaker 4>If let's say, if you get on the stand and

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<v Speaker 4>you point somebody out and you tell the truth, but

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<v Speaker 4>they disregard your testimony, nigga, you still a snitch that

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<v Speaker 4>don't have nothing to do with what happened to him.

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<v Speaker 4>You Gunner should be walking somewhere doing the walk of

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<v Speaker 4>shame somewhere sitting off making gospel rap something.

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<v Speaker 3>But didn't everybody in that case do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the video.

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<v Speaker 3>They had plenty of videos.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember, Remember the Gunner video was different because the nigga

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<v Speaker 4>snuck to get it. That would have never they had video.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't see them. No, I seen the one specifically

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<v Speaker 4>right here. But the thing is, I don't know none

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<v Speaker 4>of the rest of them people. And I hope the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of them people ain't just walking around Atlanta if

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<v Speaker 4>they told on that. Man, if they they ain't walking

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<v Speaker 4>around Atlanta like, oh you know, hey, I'm back in

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<v Speaker 4>the streets stugging.

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<v Speaker 3>So what if thug comes out of thug said he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't tell.

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<v Speaker 1>On you, I don't give a fuck.

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<v Speaker 4>If Jesus comes down himself and say that is telling,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm wise enough and smart enough to know exactly what

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<v Speaker 4>telling is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's telling that. But gun of music still jamming.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not listen, man up.

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<v Speaker 4>If you give a rat a microphone on the New

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<v Speaker 4>York streets, he might make some dope records.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not knocking it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying he don't even have shame, like nigga make

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<v Speaker 4>gospel rap.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, let me ask you a question. So does that

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<v Speaker 5>mean other rappers of the street rappers.

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<v Speaker 2>Should not do songs with him or support him because

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<v Speaker 2>of who he claims to be and who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, so I think a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of though I'm confused.

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<v Speaker 4>Crip first, that was the first problem. That was my

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<v Speaker 4>first and he was like, yeah, it's crip. He was

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<v Speaker 4>like neighborhood. But now it's like that look crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's a I think for most rappers

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<v Speaker 4>they trying to change their life, so they may not

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<v Speaker 4>maintain the same ethics. I mean they So everybody got

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<v Speaker 4>to make their own decision.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I don't. I wouldn't piss

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<v Speaker 1>on him if he was on fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn. I like Gunner, but I ain't in the street.

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<v Speaker 1>So and it's not the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and most people that listen to hip hop aren't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not mad at them. I'm not telling the.

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<v Speaker 4>Two shows a lot of show in New York. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>but why would the average everyday person care about.

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<v Speaker 3>Morals street street morals.

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<v Speaker 4>Not even street morals. This is something if you was

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<v Speaker 4>at right now, if we had a job and we

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<v Speaker 4>we at this job and the motherfucker came and stole

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<v Speaker 4>something and then somebody told their stuff. You'll be mad

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<v Speaker 4>at they snitching ass too. This is not what even

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<v Speaker 4>no matter what they stole. If something like, if you

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<v Speaker 4>took something and somebody told on you, you're gonna look

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<v Speaker 4>at that person crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm not. I shouldn't have stolen from that person.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 4>That set that don't change that this person particularly like

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<v Speaker 4>because I.

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<v Speaker 6>Stole, I know I did something wrong. I can't be

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<v Speaker 6>mad at the person for pointing out that I did

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<v Speaker 6>something wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I did something wrong. Of course you can't if y'all

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<v Speaker 1>did it together.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's different.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Say that now. But that's different.

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<v Speaker 6>If we stole something together and then he went and

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<v Speaker 6>told on me like he didn't do it, that's a

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<v Speaker 6>different way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what happened. And that's what snitching is all about.

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<v Speaker 4>Snitching really simply put, man, it's getting out of control.

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<v Speaker 4>It's when a criminal tells on a crime to avoid

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<v Speaker 4>accountability for their own crime. There is a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>other shit we could talk about. We could start breaking

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<v Speaker 4>down to all the nuances of street but really snitching.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't have nothing to do with like thug in or

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah. It's about accountability. Street life in general

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<v Speaker 4>is more about accountability and masculinity than everything. Being responsible,

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<v Speaker 4>saying what you mean, meaning what you say, standing by

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<v Speaker 4>what you said. It's accountability. It's not this ignorant kind

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<v Speaker 4>of concept. It's primitive at times, but it's not ignorant.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all about accountability.

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<v Speaker 3>So okay.

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<v Speaker 6>So with that said, me and you commit a crime together,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sitting in myself. I have a revelation all now

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<v Speaker 6>on a whole myself accountable. So I decided to say, hey, glasses,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm telling on both of us.

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<v Speaker 3>But I did for both of us.

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<v Speaker 2>No no or or Charlamagne Is talked about it before.

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<v Speaker 2>He was driving in the car with his homies. He

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<v Speaker 2>got pulled over when of his homies had something illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>They had cocaine on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlomagne didn't know it was in the car, no idea,

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<v Speaker 2>Charlomage tells, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>With Wendy Williams, No I didn't tell. I'm in the

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<v Speaker 3>back seat of.

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<v Speaker 6>The car and said you better tell all this exactly

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<v Speaker 6>he gave. He handed over his license and registration, and

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<v Speaker 6>inside the lights of registration he had three grams of cocaine.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm talking ship to the police, really cracking jokes, whatever, whatever, please,

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<v Speaker 6>I put your hand behind you back.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh shit, what I didn't said? That went

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<v Speaker 3>too far? We find cocaine. I'm like cocaine? Who had cocaine?

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<v Speaker 6>And he was The cop was like, whose is it?

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<v Speaker 6>I said, it's not mine. So let's use the process

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<v Speaker 6>of elimination. It's one of these two individuals.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, look, was y'all doing lines nor goal line?

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<v Speaker 4>Would y'all go to do lines at night?

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<v Speaker 3>I know hadaine?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so listen. So right, so look, if.

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<v Speaker 4>You not thugging or if you're not in any street life,

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<v Speaker 4>this is this is just simple street life, then it

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<v Speaker 4>don't have nothing to do with you. And really your

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<v Speaker 4>partner should be like, this is mine.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely right. So wait until we got to the jail

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<v Speaker 6>to do it, which is too late.

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<v Speaker 5>Then he thought about it on the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what happened. Charla was like, either you gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tell ing Lama, tell him. That's why what I have accountability.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but but if me and my homeboys.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's say, if I'm with Joey, Right, if I'm with

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<v Speaker 4>Joey west Side and I know he not thugging, and

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<v Speaker 4>I got a gun, it's gonna be my gun. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna let him get in trouble for my gun.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's just being a man. That's all street life

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<v Speaker 4>is about in general, even whether you're a criminal or not.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just about being a man and standing up for

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<v Speaker 4>all of the right things.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't never get tired of being in the screeg No, why.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's not being anywhere right, Like my my

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<v Speaker 4>conduct is consistent with the upbringing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Why would I change my moral code for what?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I walk in the breakfast club or if I

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<v Speaker 4>walk anyway, what's the point of what? Am I changing

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<v Speaker 4>my moral cold too? Like the only next thing is

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<v Speaker 4>like religion, Like whe where else would I go? Like

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't want to be a regular person. Motherfuckers is

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<v Speaker 4>the scum of the fucking earth. I mean, like, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't stand by nothing. You know, people mistreat each other,

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<v Speaker 4>they don't they save mean ship to each other. You

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<v Speaker 4>could be driving, motherfucker, be like, shut up and call

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<v Speaker 4>you crazy. The tow truck man that was in uber

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<v Speaker 4>call a nigga a bitch, like you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 6>So you're telling me that a man that calls somebody

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<v Speaker 6>a woman a bitch don't have no morals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you call no a man, he called another

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<v Speaker 1>man a bitch.

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<v Speaker 3>If you call a woman a bitch.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know that called a man a bitch. So

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<v Speaker 4>it was a man hitting the you turn and you

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<v Speaker 4>know how New York motherfuckerspl and shit. So it was

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<v Speaker 4>a man in a carriage and here a you turn

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<v Speaker 4>in front of the tow truck and the motherfucker's like yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know you bitch ass motherfucker and you know your

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<v Speaker 4>your your your driver don't know how to drive. And

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<v Speaker 4>it's like see that, Like where come from? You call

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<v Speaker 4>a man another man a bitch, you better be ready

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<v Speaker 4>to fight. And I think in regular life, if you

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<v Speaker 4>hit the motherfucker for calling them a bitch, they'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they'll call the police.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't put my hands on you.

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<v Speaker 3>But what about calling a woman a bitch?

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<v Speaker 6>Because that woman is somebody's sister, somebody's wife, somebody's daughters.

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<v Speaker 3>What if that man want to fight you because you

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<v Speaker 3>called the woman a bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the point. You gotta take the fed right you squabble, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's all.

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<v Speaker 2>Aboutbody want to squabble though, Like so, so you call

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<v Speaker 2>that man a bitch, right now, that man comes and

0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:33.679
<v Speaker 2>it's snuff you. You call police and he gets arrested,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you press charges. There's no morals, That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that no morals?

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<v Speaker 2>You can't me a bitch? And then when I react

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<v Speaker 2>to you called them a bitch upunt you in the face.

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<v Speaker 2>He puts me in the face you started.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but you people want action.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree with that, but I mean I still that's

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<v Speaker 6>still reserve to right to call you agree with you?

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you?

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<v Speaker 4>And see That's what I'm saying with them in that middle,

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<v Speaker 4>Like so, like religious people, morally, the goal is to

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<v Speaker 4>be here.

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<v Speaker 1>The streets is here.

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<v Speaker 4>Regular people don't really have no moral they don't have

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<v Speaker 4>no true sense of accountability.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree with what NB just said, not because of

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<v Speaker 6>the street shit. And I agree with what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 6>but not because it's scree just because I like to

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<v Speaker 6>see people have to deal with the consequences.

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<v Speaker 3>Of their action.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the streets.

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<v Speaker 6>If you punch me in the face, you gotta deal

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<v Speaker 6>with the consequences of that action.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's regardless of what it is. If I call

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<v Speaker 3>you a bitch, I gotta deal with that.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, if you punch me in the face, now you

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<v Speaker 6>gotta deal with whatever that comes. Great, and it might

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<v Speaker 6>come with me calling nine one one.

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<v Speaker 2>But nowadays you have to know that if Charlemagne or

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's calling you a bitch, it's usually a setup, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because they want to set you up to punch you

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<v Speaker 2>in the face, and then what that They're gonnarest you.

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<v Speaker 5>They're gonna miswork for nine months, they're gonna see you.

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<v Speaker 3>True. I'm just hoping you're not doing that. I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 3>you don't do that.

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<v Speaker 6>I hope I can get That's the thing, right everybody,

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<v Speaker 6>I hope they can do some shit and hope nobody

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<v Speaker 6>not Accountabiley.

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<v Speaker 4>So so when you ask me about do I it's

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<v Speaker 4>not being in the streets is not like a location, right,

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:54.280
<v Speaker 4>It's a It's a conduct. It's the way you act.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the way you really is rooted in masculinity and accountability.

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 4>It's being responsible. I can make him you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can be a man and you can't and have accountability.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be in the street.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but when you say being in the streets that's

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<v Speaker 4>where you get the sense of accountability from. Obviously, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not selling sharm on one hundred and seventeenth Street no more. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>but the conduct still remains the same. I didn't assimilate

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<v Speaker 4>it into mainstream. I didn't become successful and changed my

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<v Speaker 4>life and then start okay, well, I'm gonna still enjoy

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<v Speaker 4>Gunner's music even though he don't have no shame and

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 4>he told on that man like that. Don't change my conduct,

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<v Speaker 4>my cold, my moral, my behavior, the moral compass doesn't change.

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<v Speaker 6>You got a song on the new album called Kanye

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<v Speaker 6>should have Never married that bitch.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus talk to about that record. What do you mean

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<v Speaker 3>it's that bade?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that really bad? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>That's bad? Why you call it? This? The mother of

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<v Speaker 3>a child a business?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if Kanye comes to swings on you that what

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<v Speaker 2>happens from then that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>We can line it up.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a fair faith like if he wanted to faith

0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 4>he called me like glass, I need that.

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<v Speaker 2>If he snuffs you, knock you down, he worth close

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<v Speaker 2>to billion.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not soon first off from get up and dust

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<v Speaker 4>cuts off or he finna win.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, we're fin the fight.

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<v Speaker 4>But the idea of the song was turning the hole

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<v Speaker 4>into a housewife. I just feel like in today's time

0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 4>his glasses, that's not that bad? Is that really that

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<v Speaker 4>that we didn't got that far?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't see the need to call her

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<v Speaker 1>that not what's the bitch or ho?

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<v Speaker 3>Both? What both classes?

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 2>That's that man's wife, my ex wife.

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<v Speaker 6>Crazy see snooping them back in the day. It wasn't

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 6>right when they did it, but they never put a

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<v Speaker 6>name to Why wasn't it right? They never put a

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<v Speaker 6>name to it, and they didn't label like there was

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<v Speaker 6>like there was certain views that you come on ge style.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, just you can't put a label.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can't call a whole hole.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe maybe a generalization, but you can't say that person

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<v Speaker 6>right there as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not if.

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 6>They're a whole, But if they not, they are anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>But we got messed up at it is we started

0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 6>referring to all.

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Women as correct. But we all all knew all women

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't we didn't.

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 3>We didn't say it enough.

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 4>No, No, we knew it, even if nobody else knew it.

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:07.880
<v Speaker 4>We knew all women wasn't holes. But what's wrong with.

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<v Speaker 1>A girl if she's a hole? To call her a

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<v Speaker 1>whole anymore? Though?

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<v Speaker 5>But she's a mom and the housewife?

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Now right? A business woman?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean you could have said Kanye should have

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<v Speaker 2>married that business woman.

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<v Speaker 4>If you get arrested for a feeling and you go

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 4>to prison, you get out of jail when you fill

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 4>out the application when they ask you are you're a feeling?

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:25.680
<v Speaker 4>Why can't you say I'm not a feeling anymore?

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.359
<v Speaker 3>I got parton? What if I got partoned?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well who partner? Jimmy? The PaperWorks in our chair?

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<v Speaker 1>The paperwork could not change it? Oh my god, no.

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<v Speaker 4>So listen, I didn't No good look, and I'm so serious.

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 4>This is serious part. So we wrote the song right,

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 4>don't You can't turn the hole into our sall? That's

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 4>why I did the song right. And I just felt

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 4>like we're in a weird time where people are really trying.

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 1>To wife worse. This is a big movement going on.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a lot of really unstreet and unaccountable things right,

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 4>and it's like people are not accountable, so they're just

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 4>doing anything. And so when we wrote the song, we

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 4>wasn't it wasn't even it's not specifically about them. Nobody

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.880
<v Speaker 4>was even thinking about Kanye or Kim when we wrote

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 4>the music. We just wrote the music to be honest.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just listening to the song and I'm like, damn,

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 4>you know. The idea of the song was called that

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:25.439
<v Speaker 4>bitch right, that bitch belonged to the streets. But I

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 4>was thinking about it. We're such a time where nobody

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 4>is actually like, it's hard for people to put a

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:35.440
<v Speaker 4>face to an idea because it's so far out of

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 4>their wheelhouses every day, and I was like, damn, who

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 4>going through something that proves and validates this idea? And

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 4>Kanye just look at this situation.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I guess everybody has a pass, is what I

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 6>would say, men and women.

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<v Speaker 4>But we don't get to say we not that no more.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you go to prison and you get two

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 4>felonies for the rest of your life, you're a fella.

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 6>That's like saying nobody can evolve. So Malcolm X wasn't

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 6>always Malcolm Little. I mean, Malcolm Little did stay mackam

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 6>Little he became Malcolm X.

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Totally agree.

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 3>So you can you can definitely evolve and change.

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 4>Do we think Kim evolved, Hell yeah, she didn't a

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.359
<v Speaker 4>hundred percent from ten years ago she did.

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 2>How do we don't know, you know, because we don't

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 2>know the situation that might have been. Kanye might have

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 2>been a problem in that relationship. She might have wanted

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 2>to be a housewife.

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 4>The problem was when you first went into that relationship

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 4>with that lady. It's a lot of stuff going on

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 4>with women. Man, you gotta be really careful when you

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 4>just jump out there. And obviously he wasn't listening to

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.439
<v Speaker 4>the Doctor Dre's album like he should have been. He

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 4>would have knew that any of them Snoop Dogg's album.

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:35.719
<v Speaker 4>You can't turn the hole into a housewives. These are

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 4>simple things, simple truths.

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a lot of holes that have been

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<v Speaker 3>turned into housewives. I actually think.

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<v Speaker 6>Sometimes in a lot of ways, holes make the best

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 6>housewives because because just like people who've been in the street,

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 6>they didn't been there, done that, and they don't want

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<v Speaker 6>to do that no more.

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 3>So they evolve and.

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 6>Now they you would never know there's somebody married to

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 6>a woman right now and had no idea glasses and

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 6>them crips was running trains on her and watched in

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<v Speaker 6>the nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't know that. No, but it's again. The

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.679
<v Speaker 4>concept is just really simple. And obviously you see it

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 4>went down in flames. It went down in flames. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not again, it's not. I don't want to sound like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm being harsh to Kim.

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 6>Or even but I don't know whose fault it were,

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 6>but it could have been Kanye's fault that it went down.

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Sure, I think that's what you were trying to think.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not blaming her, just a bad idea, Like you

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<v Speaker 4>got to get somebody that's a little bit more plausible

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 4>for the job, and I don't think that that was

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 4>the correct plausible person for the job. Her life was

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 4>shaved to be something completely different. But again, sometimes like

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 4>ever since I've been talking about the song, it's been

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 4>more or less about Kim Kardashian, my like or dislike

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 4>for Kim Kardashian.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just not true. I love Kim Kardashian.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, as much as you could love somebody you

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 4>don't know that you don't have to really have a

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 4>lot of respect for she was you know, yeah.

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>No, because.

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<v Speaker 6>Hasn't got a podcast called No Ceilings, y'all enjoy.

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 4>Y's the point because everybody would be thinking, I'm crazy.

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>She was sucking J Dick on tape.

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 3>Jesus, that matters. I just mean somebody had a camera.

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>No, she actually recorded, then they sold the video.

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 3>That's a hustle. That's a hustle. Ge.

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not mad at her. I totally understand.

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 4>I have the utmost respect for prostitutes, porn stars and

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 4>anybody else that's hustling.

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>But let's actually call it what it is.

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 3>Most men that get with their women, they not getting

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 3>a virgin. G. Come on, it's just the truth.

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 6>They're not getting a virgin, whether it's on tape or

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 6>not on tape.

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Him is far from a virgin man, Like we gotta.

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 3>Go that far, but virgin every woman had the path.

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<v Speaker 1>On tape, Jesus. So we just start with not sucking

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>dig ona tape.

0:29:58.360 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 3>In this day and age is kind of hard.

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 6>See everybody pulling their phones out.

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 3>This new generation got it rough. G.

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 4>This is why I stay streaked, I see, because you

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 4>have to have some moral compass and cold of behavior.

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Because look where we're at, like you like.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, now the only pool of women is who's sucking

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 4>dig gonna tape?

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Now, I know, look at this one.

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 4>So this is bout because I have to look at

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 4>her face, right, because I don't want her to think

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 4>like I'm like some kind of hee man woman had her.

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 4>But it's like, it's too late if we start with

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 4>sucking dig on tape.

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 3>I get what you're saying.

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>This woman has not sucked nobody dick on tape.

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 4>And we've seen the video this lady, So I don't

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 4>want her to think I'm just saying. I don't want

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 4>her to think that I'm saying, we got at least

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 4>start with not sucking dig on take.

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, can we not wife who sucking dig.

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 3>On test shouldn't be disqualified?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, it's yes, Okay, So what if what if the

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 6>woman is given and doesn't know that he's being recorded.

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 4>The exception is not the rule. She knew she was

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 4>being recorded, she was performing, and then they sold the

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 4>tape for money. They like Kanye's kids, His daughter gonna

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 4>have to see that, his daughter gonna see this enemy

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 4>like this man, this man calling my mother out of

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 4>her name and it's not that's not what it is.

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean the young lady and young man, that's not

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 4>what it is. They do this thing and don't think

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 4>for tomorrow.

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Back to the streets. They teach you accountability.

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 4>Everything you do. You remember, this shit is going to

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 4>matter everybody else in regular life. Sucking dick ona tape,

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 4>You will not think how that's gonna bother you because

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 4>they don't fucking got no morals. Who the fuck would

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 4>suck dick on tape and think like later on cry

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 4>like I sucked dig on tape and everybody saw it.

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 3>What about people? Who's secret?

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 6>He just said.

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 3>The exception is some people out there that we've seen.

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to bring those names up, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you can't sell it right if you sell it,

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 4>soe like, this is way past it, sucking dig onna tape, Like, yes,

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 4>most women probably most women probably have gave flatio right,

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 4>that's the way right, So most women have right, but

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 4>they also not doing on tape correct. And then if

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 4>they did it on tape, they're not selling it for

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 4>money because they.

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 6>Mean they're making the best out of a bad situation,

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 6>Beyonce said turned lemited in the Lemonade g what was

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 6>the bad situation?

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 3>She got caught sucking dick on tape? Who got caught

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 3>Kim and or whatever it was. But then they ended

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 3>up selling it, right, Yeah, what's wrong with that?

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Nothing?

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<v Speaker 4>But told him, why is it wrong when I'm saying

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 4>you sucking dick on tape?

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 3>No, it's not wrong with saying I don't think they

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 3>got caught.

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 5>They solely. That's how everybody saw it.

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:39.719
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and I thought they got leaked and then they

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 3>didn't know they solely solely. Anyway, let's move on.

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 5>Let me ask you a question.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I see I didn't hear the album yet, but

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I see Notorious b I G on the album that

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<v Speaker 2>a new verse old verse.

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<v Speaker 5>No, that's a hooks Okay, I didn't hear it.

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 4>It's caused the log. It's dope, the loco. It's a

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 4>really dope song. It's really dope. At one time, I

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 4>felt like Big Daddy came rapping at that bpm.

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 2>You can you can relate of cane shit in one

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 2>twere problems and me thinking I'm up.

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 4>There like chub rock, and I closed with chub rock.

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 4>That was the feel of the song. So I felt

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 4>like such a hip hop Vet doing that, gotcha.

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 6>I wanted to ask you about something you sit in

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 6>to the group chat the other day. You said that

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 6>mcavelly album and Snoop's doggy style dog Father dog Father.

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, Snoops dog Father are the same album. Every

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 6>time I come here, we be and some ship. So

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 6>let's go right to it.

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not even front.

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<v Speaker 4>If Tupac doesn't pass away, mcavelly would be considered what

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 4>dog Father is because you would have been coming off

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 4>such high production, high value production, high value everything. What

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 4>happens to somebody really shaped the market. What happened to

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 4>Tupac shaped the marketing and how we received the next album,

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean.

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Snoop didn't have the benefit of that. He just dre

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>skipped on.

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 4>He just DJ Pool, Me and DJ Pool even talked

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 4>about it, and he was talking about how much he

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 4>had to how how hard it was working on that

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 4>album much they didn't get to do certain things, and

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 4>then Snoop got the utmost criticism for it. But imagine

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 4>if mcavelly follows all lies on me and Tupac is

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 4>alive and it doesn't have how do you want it?

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:13.479
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't have the success of California lovet two number

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 4>one songs. It don't have the Johnny j production because

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 4>him and POC had fell out at that point. It

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:22.439
<v Speaker 4>doesn't have Doctor Dre because now Doctor Dre is gone

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 4>and you dissing him, and now we could listen to

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 4>your dishes and judge whether or not we think it's okay.

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 4>So I think they're almost like the same style of

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 4>album as far as the way they will follow such huge,

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 4>huge releases.

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 6>So you're not talking about sonically because sonically I just

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 6>think Mcavelly's just a way better album, and I think

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 6>that album goes.

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Whether or not it's my no I mean, bomb first,

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 3>hell Married.

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite POC album.

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 4>But again, following the album, I don't think we hear

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 4>it the same way. I think we when somebody passes away,

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 4>we take their music differently.

0:34:58.360 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>We start to accept certain things.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 4>It has an ominous feel, things start to happen, and

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 4>I think in park situation, him passing away made us

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:07.919
<v Speaker 4>feel a lot different about what we heard.

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't that the point of that album?

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 6>Or whether't he coming out through the alias mcavelly, which

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 6>it made even crazy.

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>So you said, I'm confused, You're saying the Dog for

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 2>the album. Yeah, it's on the same as the mcavelli album.

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:21.919
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I said, the only difference is Tupac passed away,

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 4>so set a marketing landscape for how we receive it.

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 6>I disagree with that now mcavell album and you said

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:28.720
<v Speaker 6>it's it's it's my favorite.

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.280
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying, But it's part of him passing

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 4>away because of the ominous feel of the records.

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 5>What records is you like on album Dog?

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 2>So?

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean I like Pool's production.

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Pool did a lot of it, so I pretty

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:44.760
<v Speaker 4>much liked about three or four five songs.

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>But again I like every song.

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 4>On mcavelly because it just maybe if he's alive and

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 4>he dis and nods, now it's different him this and.

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Nos in depth, it's like he did when he was alive. No,

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean on the records.

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, like if he's dissing jay Z, if he

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 4>dissing notas if he's dissing doctor Dre and he's breathing air.

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 4>Maybe again, right now we just talking about somebody looking

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 4>at me crazy.

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 3>You think they shouldn't have put the ABU ount is

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 3>what you're saying.

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 1>No, I think they did the right thing by putting

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the album out.

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying I think they're the same type of

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 4>follow up to those albums, Doggy Style and dog Father.

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 4>I think dog Father got a lot of unwarned criticism

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 4>because of where everything was at at that time. I

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 4>think DJ Pool being there, it didn't get enough credit

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 4>because it wasn't Doctor Dre Doctor Dre leaving and I

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:34.800
<v Speaker 4>think Pop passed away, so it created a different space

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 4>for us to hear the music.

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think to Live and Die in La, and

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 6>you correct me if I'm wrong. This is because I'm

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 6>on the outside looking and to me, that is the

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 6>when I think LA, I think the Living Die in

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 6>La to mean that is the quintessential West.

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Coast record in Los Angeles.

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 6>If I landed at the airport, I would want to

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 6>hear the Living diel a plan you know what?

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 3>That's over California love.

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 4>Because I can understand that from somebody that's from out

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 4>of town. In town probably not, but out of town.

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean to us, like, we'll probably thinking about shook

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 4>Ones or cream like that. But I'm sure New York

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 4>is a completely different vibeh.

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 1>Ones to cream.

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 2>But most people would think Empire State Jay Z and

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Alicia Keys. Most people think that when they come to

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 2>New York the States, but US hip hopheads, I would

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 2>think of p s A.

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 5>Jay Z, I would think of shook ones. I would

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:20.399
<v Speaker 5>think of you know, records like that.

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 4>That's a great point because I don't think nobody in

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 4>New York would think of Empire State of Mind as

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 4>the record that you would think that's something.

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>But then we was crazy because were healing chilling cousin.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a horse and carriage planning, and it was like, oh,

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 4>this feels like New York.

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>But I guess I never thought about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Because that's a touristy type of song.

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<v Speaker 2>But here we were gonna play PSA allow me to

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 2>reintroduce myself ones like That's it's hard to say that's

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:46.439
<v Speaker 2>a touristy song when a post child for New York

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 2>made it to be a New York anthem. The Empire

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:53.320
<v Speaker 2>State of Mind is doing exactly what jay Z wrote it. Yeah,

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 2>for sporting events and stuff, but I think he made

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:58.800
<v Speaker 2>it for everybody to see New York from a wide perspective,

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 2>correct versus get even though raw New.

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 4>York vibes, whereas like like I said cream. When I

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.319
<v Speaker 4>think of New York, I think of Cream, or I

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 4>think of I guess because I've been here too, so

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 4>you see certain parts of certain worlds you're like, oh,

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 4>it's rougher, and in part said of mind is so clean,

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 4>but it does fit for us. I guess inside.

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Probably something like I love it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>East Siders Okay, Okay, that's a that's a super inside

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 4>of l A song.

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess that would be like our shook ones, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it the way the hommies come up to

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 4>Snoop Dogg group, the East Siders, him and Trady and Goldie. Uh.

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 4>Inside LA sugar Free, I'd rather give you my bitch.

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 4>That's a super Los Angeles. You come into Los Angeles.

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't think nobody outside of Los Angeles really know

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 4>about it, But inside of Los Angeles, that ship sets

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<v Speaker 4>everything off.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty fucking dough.

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<v Speaker 6>When we talk about LA, is it anything that can

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 6>be done to make the streets safe? Because when you

0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:01.320
<v Speaker 6>think about you know, losing Great Nifty Hustle, losing.

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 3>P and b Rock their way to make the streets safer.

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 3>I guess in particular for rappers.

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<v Speaker 1>Pop smoke, I mean, just people poor. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>So many of these situations is just crazy. Like when

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 4>we even we talked about what happened.

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>With with A.

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.880
<v Speaker 4>P and B Rock, Like, you've been to La enough,

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 4>You've been to La enough. I don't think either one

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 4>of y'all been over there. I don't think either y'all

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 4>been to Roscos. I'm sure multiple times neither one of

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 4>y'all been to that rocks recently. But I wasn't stopping

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 4>over there though, right, So that's like the locals Roscos,

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 4>and it's like a place that look really poor.

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>That's on the east side. This is my side of town.

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>This is the Roscos I go to.

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:41.439
<v Speaker 4>I've been going there my whole life, and I don't

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 4>think that's the kind of place where you jump out,

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 4>so don't. I don't know if there's something that could

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 4>be done except just making smarter decisions, Like I wouldn't

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.359
<v Speaker 4>go to no ghetto with what looks like two three

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:52.439
<v Speaker 4>hundred thousand dollars worth of jeweliy on. I just think

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 4>that's a bad idea. I agree, I mean, why would

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:58.839
<v Speaker 4>you go around poor people You're supposed to look like

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 4>an opportunity you're supposed to look like you can give

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<v Speaker 4>an opportunity, not look like an opportunity. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of times rappers it's a weird space. I

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 4>think hip hop takes a lot of blame for a

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 4>lot of shit, But I think the one thing that

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 4>they have really elevated is floshing on poor people. Hip

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 4>hop used to be the voice of poor people. Now

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 4>it's about people telling other people how poor they is.

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 6>You know what I mean, And take your woman because

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:26.720
<v Speaker 6>you're too poor to have us.

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.760
<v Speaker 4>Broke nigga, You know, broke nigga. Me and broke niggas

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 4>don't get along. It's just like God, damn all your

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:34.760
<v Speaker 4>partners is broke and your friends don't get along. So again,

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 4>I think hip hop is and I think rappers are

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 4>kind of flossing on poor people.

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Impoort.

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 4>They gotta remember poor people following them, People who don't

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 4>got a bunch of stuff. If you look on my page,

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 4>you ain't seeing shit I got.

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:47.959
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 4>Because I know people that support me, they don't have

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 4>what I have, So why would I go to any

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:54.880
<v Speaker 4>ghetto with just all this jery on?

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I just think that's a bad idea.

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 4>So I don't think what needs to be done is

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 4>rappers got to kind of realize maybe the goal is

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 4>not to floss on poor people. I mean I think

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 4>they I think rappers got to make their own adjustments.

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's nothing that could be done amongst

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 4>I think we blame poor people for enough shit.

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 6>So so what about somebody like nip who who was

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 6>providing opportunity?

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that situation is really nuanced, Like we you know,

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 4>we talked about that.

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a really weird situation.

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 4>Between two people from you know, the same community in

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 4>so many words, and it's like it's a situation that

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 4>went bad, you know what I mean. And it's it's

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 4>so much stuff that we don't know about it, even

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.359
<v Speaker 4>me being from right down the street and this being

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 4>my friend, I don't so many things that I still

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 4>am learning every day about the dynamics of it. Death

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:46.359
<v Speaker 4>just come with life, and it ain't no getting away

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 4>and the solution ain't always getting away from poor people.

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 4>That's not going to cause you to die. It's just

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, we can die. That's the point of it.

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 4>We can die, you know what I mean. And I

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 4>think it's more important that we stay around poor people

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 4>and providing opportunities and help when people get, you know,

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 4>the better their life. That's the only solution. More opportunities

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 4>for livable wages for poor people. I was thinking about

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 4>that too. Hip hop is the America's last hope. Explain

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 4>you mean just culturally what we represent that, Like I'm

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 4>saying accountability, making.

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Sure a square is still a square.

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 4>Like the fact that right now I'm telling y'all, you know,

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 4>this lady is probably not the kind of lady you

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 4>should marry, because in the everyday world is just losing

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 4>morals every day. It's just more things are becoming acceptable

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 4>for no reason, just for some false sense of inclusion,

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 4>and it's just not real.

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 6>But hip hop, and I love hip hop, so don't

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 6>take this the wrong way. But hip hop can normalize

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 6>a lot of bullshit too. We have normalized a lot

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 6>of bullshit.

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 4>But have we really normalized a lot of bullshit that

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 4>wasn't normal in our communities already?

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 6>Like what I think that we've celebrated a lot of

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 6>Like we celebrated the drug culture, Like we've glorified the

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 6>gang culture. I think a lot of times people did

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 6>those things out of survival, especially especially hustling. So we

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 6>turned it turned into a thing people did out of

0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 6>survival that people never spoke about to coming cool, making

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 6>records about it, like everybody want to be a dope

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:06.959
<v Speaker 6>boy or trap boy?

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 4>Now, I mean, is that really the ghetto? I mean,

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.880
<v Speaker 4>what year the scarface come out? I don't know what

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 4>the seventy something seems like it got worse though, No,

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 4>it just became something appearing to us like we we

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 4>take the burden. We take the blame as far as

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.919
<v Speaker 4>the ghetto, street urban culture, hip hop takes the blame

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 4>for everything America's been celebrating this shit.

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:29.359
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, But if we know better, shouldn't we do better?

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 6>Like, if we know these things only lead a lot

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 6>of our people to jail, a lot of our people dead,

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 6>shouldn't we come up with something else?

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Well?

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 4>I think what we as far as hip hop, we

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 4>also do do the best job for the people at

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 4>the lowest parts of.

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:41.839
<v Speaker 1>Our community needed.

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.400
<v Speaker 4>Every while, I do agree that there is some responsibility,

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:47.439
<v Speaker 4>it's more about the elite. It's more about the top.

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 4>It ain't really about the bottom. The bottom is going

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.319
<v Speaker 4>to be the bottom because it's you know, motherfuckers don't know,

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:55.440
<v Speaker 4>they ignorant, they don't have the information. So it's about

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 4>us at the top, right, it's about the jay z.

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 4>It's about envious about the people at the top, right

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:02.839
<v Speaker 4>by poor people. And you can't ask poor people to

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 4>make better decisions out of you poor everything you do

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 4>is by necessity.

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 3>So I agree with that.

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:10.879
<v Speaker 6>But to your to what we were talking about earlier, Man,

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 6>when you go down to that bottom, that's when you

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:13.720
<v Speaker 6>get real morals.

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:14.920
<v Speaker 3>That's when you get real principles.

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 6>People that may not have a dollar, but they still

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 6>got an integrity about themselves. Sometimes people at the top

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 6>with all that money don't have that integrity.

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.240
<v Speaker 4>Well, they got the same integrity because the same person

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 4>gonna sell drugs, right, the wealthiest person and big pharma

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 4>and the poorest person gonna sell dope, same mentality. So

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 4>I think it's about the job we do by other

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 4>poor people within hip hop. That's the only place we

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:36.320
<v Speaker 4>fell in that in my mind, we don't.

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Do a really ghetto.

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 4>People that succeed don't do the best job by people

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.279
<v Speaker 4>that's not succeeding. It's always kind of like, oh, you

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 4>figure it out, Like that's why we started the New West.

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 4>At that time, it was like it's way too much

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 4>y'all figured out versus hey man, this is how you

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:50.879
<v Speaker 4>do it. You in the door, now let me show

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 4>you how.

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 1>To do it.

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 3>It was you, it was Kendrick, it was Nip who was.

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 4>Up Mike stro So that that hip hop has to

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 4>do a much better job of that, Like the the

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 4>people that are successful gotta come grab people that ain't successful.

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 1>That's the whole premise. That's why it works so well.

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 4>So I think, no, I don't blame us for I

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 4>don't think we normalized drug dealing. I think drug drug

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 4>dealing is normal in our ghettos.

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Definitely.

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because we supposed to.

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 5>We made it cool.

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Well it's not. It was cool because it was cool

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:24.240
<v Speaker 1>because it was success in the community.

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 2>That I think they but a lot of people talked

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:30.399
<v Speaker 2>about an act like they did. Like even we talked

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 2>about this morning on Yesterdays show. We talked about Michael

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Irving and his son, and Mike Rveran was like, my

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 2>son is not that street yet, but he was. His

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:38.880
<v Speaker 2>son was acting rapping like a street dude because he

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 2>probably sees it working. But he was like Mike Veran

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 2>was like, my son grew up in the gated community.

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 2>It was there's no street in him.

0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, we had this conversation a many times before.

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 4>I think that's the problem when everybody's trying to jump

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 4>on the way that poor people have to kind of create.

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 1>A way out for themselves.

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:54.719
<v Speaker 4>If you're a middle class person and you on the

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 4>next track to be Michael Irvan's son and maybe go

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 4>coach a football team, why the fuck is you doing?

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Rap? I mean, you just want But that's another thing.

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 6>Glass alone told me I'm not a man if I'm

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:04.800
<v Speaker 6>not in the street.

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 4>No glasses Malone told you the streets made him a man.

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 4>Michael Irvin made cousin man. You know what I mean,

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 4>Like Nigga, your middle your wealthy existence was the platform.

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 6>That that proves you don't have to be street or

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:20.760
<v Speaker 6>necessarily religious.

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:22.399
<v Speaker 3>Then still morals in a person, Well.

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, because Mike erv was saying he don't

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 4>got morals right now. He's like, man, I don't know.

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:28.400
<v Speaker 3>What's lack of morals. That's just like you pretending to

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 3>be something you're not.

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:30.320
<v Speaker 2>That's a lack of morals.

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Ain't committing the crime, you just rapping about it.

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:35.040
<v Speaker 1>That should be a crime. We're just just lying and

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 1>ship like you just Street and thug and up man

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>some motherfucking interview.

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:48.759
<v Speaker 5>That's the truth, lied.

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean a lot of rappers say they done killed

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 2>this person, shot this person, but a lot of it

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<v Speaker 2>is not true.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope not.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope not. I host everybody. I was just telling

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<v Speaker 4>them the other day we was talking about Drake was

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<v Speaker 4>talking about your boy, right, so he was like, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Whole shit was Joe.

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<v Speaker 4>And my whole point with Joe was like, how do

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<v Speaker 4>you talk about Drake's mute?

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<v Speaker 1>This is what Drake do. If you're not a.

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<v Speaker 4>Fan of Drake music, you're not a fan of the

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<v Speaker 4>current wave of whatever's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I saw you do that. I saw I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know whose podcast was you when I saw that.

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<v Speaker 4>Back on, I'm telling them and my nigga was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>well you know what about him talking Street. I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>Drake talked like he was making threats in the chat,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, I don't want to find out. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to be the nigga to find out that

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<v Speaker 4>he has spent some money. So my whole attitude is like,

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<v Speaker 4>do I thank the man out there thugging?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not. You know what, if I might even fluce,

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<v Speaker 1>you could do some dumb ass shit.

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<v Speaker 4>So if he trick his shit off playing around with

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<v Speaker 4>the low level, then let's see all he.

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<v Speaker 6>Got people around him that could be about that life.

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<v Speaker 6>Who tied of people playing with their money?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they ain't talking. They wanted you to get some money.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know, but they got to.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought what you said was true though.

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<v Speaker 6>It was just like, yo, if you to not like

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<v Speaker 6>this Drake album is kind of hypocritical because it's the.

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<v Speaker 3>Same music that he's That's what I say. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>same music.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever the current he's the best at like Madonna. That's enough.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody got mad when I kept comparing with Madonna, And

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<v Speaker 4>it's like Madonna used to do the same thing with music.

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<v Speaker 4>She would take whatever the current wave of music and

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<v Speaker 4>make a Madonna's song. Drake does the same thing right now.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you you can't really dislike Drake's music, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like you can't really dislike McDonald's. You can talk about

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<v Speaker 4>it's unhealthy. You could make a lot of ridiculous arguments

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm not in the mood for it. I want better,

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<v Speaker 4>But come on, man, like Drake is like Drake, she

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<v Speaker 4>is like a happy meal. It's kind of hard to

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<v Speaker 4>kind of really hate on you just kind of be like,

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't needing that shit today.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can say, like I think some people say

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<v Speaker 2>I want more rapping. Some people can say I want

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<v Speaker 2>more of this type of song. But like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't hate this, it's true.

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<v Speaker 4>But who would even want more from Drake? Like it's

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<v Speaker 4>like want more from McDonald's. I want McDonald's to sell stakes.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just not what Drake does. Drake has done the

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<v Speaker 4>same consistent thing this whole time, whatever the current way,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever's going on. He makes that and he's gonna make

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<v Speaker 4>it the best it could be made at a mask consumption.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my point. So I think it makes sense, makes sense.

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<v Speaker 6>Cancer these Nuts is out right now from my guy

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<v Speaker 6>glasses Malone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 6>Make sure you subscribe to the No Ceilings podcast on

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<v Speaker 6>the Black Second Podcast network.

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<v Speaker 4>That's another thing. Like my motherfucking podcast is really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just pretty good at this.

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<v Speaker 4>And don't don't go you can stream my ship. Go

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<v Speaker 4>to the cryptstore dot com and buy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the crypt store, the crypt Store, the crypt But

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<v Speaker 1>I got blood on these they can shop with the

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<v Speaker 1>making sure. I used to sell them. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>sell I used to sell drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>I would sell them drugs. They would make money off

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<v Speaker 4>my drugs so they could buy my music.

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<v Speaker 6>Cripstore dot com, Cryptstore dot com, Man, go get a

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<v Speaker 6>cancer these nuts from my guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Shout out to my boy Brasco, man the cryptstore dot

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<v Speaker 4>com gave me my idea too for the crypt store.

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<v Speaker 4>Who my boy Brasco, one of my partners from out

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<v Speaker 4>the Myphis. He was like, man, you gotta be more

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<v Speaker 4>a cript. I was like, man, you're right, I got

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 4>to be a crypt more out loud? What yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 4>No for real because it matters back ten and everybody

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<v Speaker 4>will hear me, like hey, you cripping too arm.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, just just enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, it's Glass alone, It's the Breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning with that ass up in the morning. The

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast Club