Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Morning, everybody in Steve j n V. Charlamagne, the guy.
Speaker 2: We are the breakfast Club. We got a special guest
Speaker 2: in the building, my guy Classes Malone's welcome.
Speaker 1: Back brother crying, laughing, Man.
Speaker 3: What happens?
Speaker 4: You're eventful dog. You just no this trip to every
Speaker 4: time I come to New York, the trip being ventful. Okay,
Speaker 4: my toro caught a flat you renal, Yeah, my toro, right, so.
Speaker 2: It's not big. It's not big here, but his toro
Speaker 2: is big everywhere.
Speaker 4: So it's like, so we got here soon as we
Speaker 4: got off the airplane. Right, we got off of Guardian,
Speaker 4: So we get to Touro pick up the car. The
Speaker 4: car is sketchy.
Speaker 1: Because the man didn't change it in the last minute.
Speaker 4: So he went from a twenty twenty camera to a
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: A laundra. Okay, you know you notice a different. I
Speaker 1: don't know how to turn the lights on.
Speaker 4: I ain't used to get in the cars that the
Speaker 4: lights don't automatically come on at this point.
Speaker 1: Soon as we get we leaving, we want the.
Speaker 4: Queens to eat to that's this little barbecue spot. The
Speaker 4: police pull us over, have us for thirty minutes, damn.
Speaker 4: So I'm just thinking this whole trip, it's just been crazy.
Speaker 4: I'm like, soon as we get pulled over, right, the
Speaker 4: man asking us all kinds of questions, like what y'all
Speaker 4: doing in New York. I was like, man, I'm come
Speaker 4: to do some press and this, that and the third.
Speaker 4: So were telling him we come from the airport. I
Speaker 4: showed the man the ticket and everything, and the man
Speaker 4: just talking to me cousin. I'm like, yeah, man, we
Speaker 4: just came in. He's like, you know, y'all got some
Speaker 4: in the luggage, nigga, we had to be the greatest
Speaker 4: international smugglers in the world to get.
Speaker 1: It from the airport.
Speaker 4: So we get there, We finally eat bn we go
Speaker 4: to the Airbnb, so they.
Speaker 2: Let y'all go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but took thirty minutes. The lights wasn't known in
Speaker 1: the car. Yeah, but it was just weird.
Speaker 4: Then the next day we're going to meet up with
Speaker 4: a hommy, my homeboy, Trey that writing stuff for the
Speaker 4: Athletic in New York Times, her riding for sports and stuff.
Speaker 4: Trey Edwards the toro catch a flat when we coming
Speaker 4: through the Lincoln Town so then we stuck on fifty fifth.
Speaker 1: And what's that fifty fifth and like.
Speaker 4: Probably like fifth Avenue just parked on the street in
Speaker 4: front of the dunkin Donuts for like four hours.
Speaker 3: Maybe they were a sign to get some donuts.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: We even got some steak okay, And then I went
Speaker 4: to the steakhouse. Then I went to my favor, my
Speaker 4: favorite steakhouse in New York. Uh Del Friscos. They wouldn't
Speaker 4: let U see.
Speaker 2: What sweats up yeah, twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, damn, so we can't eve that my favorite.
Speaker 4: So we go to another steakhouse and it was cool,
Speaker 4: and we waited on the people.
Speaker 1: From to row.
Speaker 4: So we reported the old the whole ship, and they
Speaker 4: sent the road side assistance. And by the time the
Speaker 4: roadside systems have come, it's eight hours. The tire shop
Speaker 4: is two blocks.
Speaker 5: You could have just drove two blocks and gotta fix yourself.
Speaker 3: Well not on the flat t yeah.
Speaker 1: Now they could have ran on now.
Speaker 4: So then I didn't know the address changed. It's just
Speaker 4: been an eventful New York.
Speaker 5: But you went to the old ad just this morning, Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's what.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Was it boarded up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was weird. You couldn't get in.
Speaker 4: It had a weird door to the lobby, and men
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, we ain't you know they left in January.
Speaker 6: Oh we've been going. We've been Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 6: why to produce it. Didn't tell you that it's all good.
Speaker 1: It's just been one of them New York trip here
Speaker 1: the bullshit. Hey man, it's all good that I got. Hey,
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 3: Okay, why are you still doing physical CDs? I already
Speaker 3: bought tennedy.
Speaker 4: I have it for you right now. Okay, hold up,
Speaker 4: I got something for you every special cause at this
Speaker 4: right here. Yeah, that's dope. Why are you still doing this?
Speaker 4: Why I still see these so as an independent? Because
Speaker 4: right you sell four thousand copies. I sell mine's autograph
Speaker 4: at twenty five dollars. That's how you do your business.
Speaker 4: M simple as that. Everything else is streaming is good,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But that's a royalty. You
Speaker 4: still got to sell music. My music good enough, though.
Speaker 4: I really believe my shit good enough to sell. So
Speaker 4: I'll be selling this though.
Speaker 3: And it's called cancel these nuts.
Speaker 6: To explain that title, it's pretty it's pretty pretty.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I mean you talk to me enough
Speaker 1: to know I don't really give.
Speaker 4: I really just I'm honest with what I think, and
Speaker 4: I'm not really intimidated. I feel like the industry, you know,
Speaker 4: the h the powers that be didn't make me, so
Speaker 4: they can't break me, and they can't take what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying all the stuff I want to say.
Speaker 3: I think canceled coaches on this last legs anyway.
Speaker 6: Actually, I actually think it's over because I think people
Speaker 6: finally realize that it's all a circular firing squad.
Speaker 1: So you may.
Speaker 6: Shoot at that person today, but then it's gonna come
Speaker 6: around in your turn eventually.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, so you feel like it's only be because it was,
Speaker 4: like I don't want nobody to remember.
Speaker 6: I think everybody's like, I don't want to be a hypocrit.
Speaker 6: I don't want to contradict myself. I know I probably
Speaker 6: got some bullshit that people could bring up to and
Speaker 6: if you hold everybody to the same standard, it's only
Speaker 6: a matter of time before it's either you are somebody
Speaker 6: you really really uck with that they calling to get canceled.
Speaker 6: So what side you're gonna be on?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we definitely in this special where I think everything
Speaker 4: is starting to be just obviously true, Like you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 1: I remember five years ago, Jada and Will was goals.
Speaker 4: That shit spoiled like milk, nobody know what to do,
Speaker 4: So I think that's a coach is the same thing.
Speaker 4: I think all the ideas was never none permanent anyway.
Speaker 4: That's why I kind of don't really get on trends
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 6: But I think what you're saying is, you know, everybody
Speaker 6: had this vision of perfection, whether it was Jad and Will,
Speaker 6: they had a vision of perfection, whether it's the way
Speaker 6: we're supposed to move in society, it's a vision of perfection.
Speaker 3: Nothing's perfect.
Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying, Like, how do we start
Speaker 4: at that place from it? Like, how do we get
Speaker 4: started with that? I was just having this whole conversation
Speaker 4: about the same thing, like there's no way possible, especially
Speaker 4: women chase that specific thing perfection, and it's no way possible.
Speaker 1: So even setting somebody else as a.
Speaker 4: Goal is ridiculous. I was listening to this shit jay
Speaker 4: Z was saying. He was like five hundred thousand. He
Speaker 4: was like, y'all just take the five hundred thousand. Jay
Speaker 4: Z said that about jay Z for the five hundred
Speaker 4: thousand yep, and I was like, damn, well, the truth
Speaker 4: is coming.
Speaker 1: It's like my time. It's good time to be a
Speaker 1: live for me. You know what I mean. It's honest.
Speaker 5: Niggas tell me the truth.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But at that time, the world wasn't really like, you know,
Speaker 4: accepting to the truth. Last time I was here, I
Speaker 4: was niggas was threatening in my life over a song.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you did Tupac mus die So.
Speaker 1: And I was like, why are you mad at me
Speaker 1: for telling the truth? It was enough.
Speaker 4: The nigga that made the song. He made a song
Speaker 4: that was like some kind of crazy Tupac conspiracy idea
Speaker 4: about soul and the Illuminati and shit. And I remember
Speaker 4: watching this interview. He was like, man, this guy stole
Speaker 4: my song. And I was like, I never heard of it.
Speaker 4: And in the interview he's like, yeah, you know, well
Speaker 4: if glasses you know in his story that don't even
Speaker 4: make sense. Whoever heard a story like that? I bet
Speaker 4: you that nigga somewhere looking like oh shit.
Speaker 6: But you had you You had first hand knowledge of
Speaker 6: the situation.
Speaker 4: Not not not only just firsthand knowledge, it was just
Speaker 4: common knowledge amongst everybody in the streets and the like.
Speaker 1: We all knew in real time what was going on.
Speaker 6: Well, you shouldn't have put it in a song. You
Speaker 6: should have sat down with Black TV and told the story.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: Heavy.
Speaker 5: Situation.
Speaker 1: Keevy is crazy.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: I'm praying for him, you know what I mean. He
Speaker 4: in a tough situation. It's gonna be tough as a motherfucker,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. You gotta fight a case.
Speaker 4: But I'm sure you're gonna get a turny, good representation.
Speaker 4: And I doubt that a lot of the interviews is
Speaker 4: something they could really use. I'm interested to see the discovery,
Speaker 4: to see what they really have. As far as ever
Speaker 4: you booking those interviews, Yeah, I need to see it.
Speaker 1: Ye gotta make that.
Speaker 3: One last that they even reached out to him.
Speaker 1: Was on the news. He was like, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: my interviews.
Speaker 4: I was like this, nigga, is you need as a
Speaker 4: as a journalist?
Speaker 5: Sure?
Speaker 6: Yes, Now, why hasn't been eight years since a Glasshouse two?
Speaker 6: Last House two is your last album?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Same same mission. Man.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: When I first started figuring all this stuff out, I
Speaker 4: was learning hip hop. Last time I saw y'all you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Before the last time, I was
Speaker 4: just figuring it all out, same thing, figuring it all
Speaker 4: out and taking my time getting back into the space
Speaker 4: to make sure I can make something that represented where
Speaker 4: we was at as far as the getto in general.
Speaker 1: And it's so many.
Speaker 4: Where street urban culture at as a whole is in
Speaker 4: such a funky place to where like you could like
Speaker 4: a rapper dog and he'll be your guy, he'd be busting,
Speaker 4: he got all the cuts. But then he'll do some
Speaker 4: whole ass ship and then you'll be stuck with it
Speaker 4: some ship that don't represent you, like you might like
Speaker 4: this rapper right and then cuz gonna just wear some
Speaker 4: figure out polis.
Speaker 6: Stop looking for perfection the same way we can't look
Speaker 6: for perfection and Jayden will or people in your street ship,
Speaker 6: you can't look for perfection.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that wh not because that's not
Speaker 1: cool to you.
Speaker 6: To me first of all, you know, I hate the
Speaker 6: street conversation because I think the street ship is silly.
Speaker 3: But if you the ultimate.
Speaker 1: Street that's not what you all your always.
Speaker 3: You got it, you got it a lot, you got
Speaker 3: paint a fingernails.
Speaker 5: Does that make you soft.
Speaker 4: Nobody who got all the cocaine will paint their fingernails.
Speaker 5: Why that's.
Speaker 4: That's not what If you like this rapper right, he
Speaker 4: wearing a dress, or if you like this rapper, he
Speaker 4: wearing a purse, it's like they know it, y'all. Don't
Speaker 4: really believe in your heart that it's something going to
Speaker 4: the street dudes will wear dresses and the street street
Speaker 4: dudes that wear dresses.
Speaker 3: Ever, this new generation different.
Speaker 2: It's not the generation glasses. You don't see people men
Speaker 2: wearing persons all the time. No, only niggas that follow
Speaker 2: rap I don't. I've never been to a ghetto niggas
Speaker 2: was wearing persons. You can't go to one borough, you
Speaker 2: can't go to Month's Corner even in the country or
Speaker 2: any ghetto, and niggas is walking around with persons.
Speaker 6: Where is this happening into the hood in a long time.
Speaker 6: So I don't know what they're doing. But they had
Speaker 6: the person and they had a glock in there ready
Speaker 6: to bust.
Speaker 1: They would be a girl with a gun. Girls got guns.
Speaker 3: Little girls can't be street.
Speaker 1: Yes they are, but it's a girl.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: Look, you gotta think eventually that it's a reason they
Speaker 4: doing it. This ain't as simple as I just wanted,
Speaker 4: you know, I just felt I wanted, come on, man, No,
Speaker 4: no man wakes up wanting to just wear a purse.
Speaker 1: That is, we've never saw a person like me. That's nice.
Speaker 1: I want that. That don't even connect.
Speaker 4: So again we be in these weird spaces where we
Speaker 4: just again still kind of just be feline there. I
Speaker 4: can't go to no ghetto and every man is walking
Speaker 4: around with a purse. It's still gonna be a selective
Speaker 4: few who trying to go against the grain based off
Speaker 4: of what they saw somebody else.
Speaker 3: What does the street dude in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: Anybody that grew up in street urban culture. It don't
Speaker 4: mean you have to be a criminal. It's just it
Speaker 4: raised you. It's you know, really, religion and street ethics
Speaker 4: are the only thing that create morality. Regular people don't
Speaker 4: have morals. It's just they go by laws.
Speaker 1: They don't really have no morals.
Speaker 2: I don't think street people have morals anymore.
Speaker 1: Of course they do.
Speaker 4: If you from the street, you don't have no choice
Speaker 4: because you gotta be whatever you say.
Speaker 1: It's gonna come with accountability.
Speaker 6: I get what n be saying I feel like they
Speaker 6: used to have a moertain amount of principles. I don't
Speaker 6: know if i'll call it more, I would say principles
Speaker 6: in the street. I don't know those principles too. I
Speaker 6: think morals and ethics too, because there's certain things that
Speaker 6: wouldn't happen.
Speaker 4: Right, But again, everything always happened back in the day, right,
Speaker 4: But it was Also, I think we keep confusing what
Speaker 4: we're seeing on social media as the streets, and it's not.
Speaker 1: That's that's the truth is that that's not the street.
Speaker 4: Social media is a completely different place that you can
Speaker 4: go and do anything. So when I talk to my
Speaker 4: own boys, it's the same thing that I just got
Speaker 4: this Gucci purse, not one ghetto. I don't care if
Speaker 4: I called my it's not me.
Speaker 1: See, that's.
Speaker 3: Know how you feel.
Speaker 4: No, listen, that is not true. Nobody is wearing a purse.
Speaker 4: Why would a man wear a purse?
Speaker 3: They got man purses. They call it the one that man.
Speaker 1: A satchel.
Speaker 5: Purse.
Speaker 1: It's a satchel.
Speaker 3: We'll call it a satchel.
Speaker 1: That's not no.
Speaker 4: They no, they be wearing purses like designer person or
Speaker 4: fingernail polish or dresses were telling. It's like telling like
Speaker 4: we can't even come to snitching.
Speaker 2: This guy is crazy, man, But it seems like it's
Speaker 2: it seems like it's so normal right now people people
Speaker 2: accept stuff.
Speaker 3: Why do we act like firsther of all, stinching ain't normal.
Speaker 3: I mean, snitch ain't new. I don't know a time
Speaker 3: when they happen.
Speaker 4: It's normalized now though, it's normal, but it's not. Again,
Speaker 4: what's going on on the internet. Ain't like hip hop
Speaker 4: really used to be a representation of what was going
Speaker 4: on in the community. At this point, it's far this
Speaker 4: it's like removed, like, I don't know, it's not the same.
Speaker 4: I agree, right, people have always snitched, and back in
Speaker 4: the day, niggas used to have like shame, like you
Speaker 4: didn't just die for snitching.
Speaker 1: You moved off and you realized the street life wasn't
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 4: Some people got killed, some people got beat up and
Speaker 4: stitches and all that. But for the most part, you know,
Speaker 4: people used to just move off. They would just go
Speaker 4: off into the yonder and realize get you know, go
Speaker 4: boy Andre changes Now he ain't Big Dre no more Andre.
Speaker 4: He just some regular nigga living his life, working at
Speaker 4: the factory. Now, niggas will be in the midst of
Speaker 4: shit still right then and there. The only thing that's
Speaker 4: changes niggas don't have shame, ain't no more shame is missing.
Speaker 4: So snitching has always happened, right, but it used to
Speaker 4: come with accountability. It wouldn't be like in Gunner situation.
Speaker 4: He wouldn't be runs motherfucker floorting around like Hey, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go do concerts, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: showcase myself.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah. He'd be like, all right, let
Speaker 1: me go sit my eyes down, let me not talk tough.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Obviously this is not cut
Speaker 1: out for me.
Speaker 4: Now, was like, okay, well, the average human, average everyday
Speaker 4: person don't really care, so I can still make my money.
Speaker 4: So they don't even care about what's going on, like
Speaker 4: their reputation. They just like, what fucking I'm.
Speaker 6: Don't think Gunna getting ad a bad rap because the
Speaker 6: person that he allegedly told on hasn't said that and
Speaker 6: his dad, Thug's dad even said Gunna didn't do anything
Speaker 6: that would hurt Thug's case.
Speaker 3: That's just a lie.
Speaker 1: It's just not true.
Speaker 4: If your whole if the whole premise of your case
Speaker 4: is built off, if the whole charges you are running
Speaker 4: a record label, that's a game. And somebody says, yes,
Speaker 4: it is a gang, it's obvious. It's not even like
Speaker 4: one of my young homies, mom, but young homie Reil.
Speaker 4: He was like, oh man, you know I need to
Speaker 4: see paperwork, bro, it's on tape.
Speaker 3: But it's obvious. It's obvious. They said they said they
Speaker 3: were a gang in records and stuff.
Speaker 4: But you have to deny it. That's the point of it.
Speaker 4: So right, you have to deny it when it's a
Speaker 4: legal charge. So when he was like, yes, are you
Speaker 4: saying that wy Sail is the street? Yes, ma'am, that's telling.
Speaker 6: So Thug's father saying him what Gunna said had nothing
Speaker 6: to do did not hurt their case in no way.
Speaker 1: It's not. It's not about does it hurt the case.
Speaker 4: If let's say, if you get on the stand and
Speaker 4: you point somebody out and you tell the truth, but
Speaker 4: they disregard your testimony, nigga, you still a snitch that
Speaker 4: don't have nothing to do with what happened to him.
Speaker 4: You Gunner should be walking somewhere doing the walk of
Speaker 4: shame somewhere sitting off making gospel rap something.
Speaker 3: But didn't everybody in that case do the same thing.
Speaker 1: I don't have the video.
Speaker 3: They had plenty of videos.
Speaker 4: Remember, Remember the Gunner video was different because the nigga
Speaker 4: snuck to get it. That would have never they had video.
Speaker 4: I didn't see them. No, I seen the one specifically
Speaker 4: right here. But the thing is, I don't know none
Speaker 4: of the rest of them people. And I hope the
Speaker 4: rest of them people ain't just walking around Atlanta if
Speaker 4: they told on that. Man, if they they ain't walking
Speaker 4: around Atlanta like, oh you know, hey, I'm back in
Speaker 4: the streets stugging.
Speaker 3: So what if thug comes out of thug said he
Speaker 3: didn't tell.
Speaker 1: On you, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 4: If Jesus comes down himself and say that is telling,
Speaker 4: I'm wise enough and smart enough to know exactly what
Speaker 4: telling is.
Speaker 3: That's telling that. But gun of music still jamming.
Speaker 1: I'm not listen, man up.
Speaker 4: If you give a rat a microphone on the New
Speaker 4: York streets, he might make some dope records.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not knocking it.
Speaker 4: I'm saying he don't even have shame, like nigga make
Speaker 4: gospel rap.
Speaker 5: Well, let me ask you a question. So does that
Speaker 5: mean other rappers of the street rappers.
Speaker 2: Should not do songs with him or support him because
Speaker 2: of who he claims to be and who he is.
Speaker 1: Again, so I think a lot.
Speaker 3: Of though I'm confused.
Speaker 4: Crip first, that was the first problem. That was my
Speaker 4: first and he was like, yeah, it's crip. He was
Speaker 4: like neighborhood. But now it's like that look crazy.
Speaker 1: But I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a I think for most rappers
Speaker 4: they trying to change their life, so they may not
Speaker 4: maintain the same ethics. I mean they So everybody got
Speaker 4: to make their own decision.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't. I wouldn't piss
Speaker 1: on him if he was on fire.
Speaker 3: Damn. I like Gunner, but I ain't in the street.
Speaker 1: So and it's not the same.
Speaker 3: Well, and most people that listen to hip hop aren't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not mad at them. I'm not telling the.
Speaker 4: Two shows a lot of show in New York. Yes,
Speaker 4: but why would the average everyday person care about.
Speaker 3: Morals street street morals.
Speaker 4: Not even street morals. This is something if you was
Speaker 4: at right now, if we had a job and we
Speaker 4: we at this job and the motherfucker came and stole
Speaker 4: something and then somebody told their stuff. You'll be mad
Speaker 4: at they snitching ass too. This is not what even
Speaker 4: no matter what they stole. If something like, if you
Speaker 4: took something and somebody told on you, you're gonna look
Speaker 4: at that person crazy.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not. I shouldn't have stolen from that person.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 4: That set that don't change that this person particularly like
Speaker 4: because I.
Speaker 6: Stole, I know I did something wrong. I can't be
Speaker 6: mad at the person for pointing out that I did
Speaker 6: something wrong.
Speaker 1: I did something wrong. Of course you can't if y'all
Speaker 1: did it together.
Speaker 3: But that's different.
Speaker 1: That's why you can't.
Speaker 3: Say that now. But that's different.
Speaker 6: If we stole something together and then he went and
Speaker 6: told on me like he didn't do it, that's a
Speaker 6: different way.
Speaker 1: That's what happened. And that's what snitching is all about.
Speaker 4: Snitching really simply put, man, it's getting out of control.
Speaker 4: It's when a criminal tells on a crime to avoid
Speaker 4: accountability for their own crime. There is a lot of
Speaker 4: other shit we could talk about. We could start breaking
Speaker 4: down to all the nuances of street but really snitching.
Speaker 4: Don't have nothing to do with like thug in or
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. It's about accountability. Street life in general
Speaker 4: is more about accountability and masculinity than everything. Being responsible,
Speaker 4: saying what you mean, meaning what you say, standing by
Speaker 4: what you said. It's accountability. It's not this ignorant kind
Speaker 4: of concept. It's primitive at times, but it's not ignorant.
Speaker 4: It's all about accountability.
Speaker 3: So okay.
Speaker 6: So with that said, me and you commit a crime together,
Speaker 6: I'm sitting in myself. I have a revelation all now
Speaker 6: on a whole myself accountable. So I decided to say, hey, glasses,
Speaker 6: I'm telling on both of us.
Speaker 3: But I did for both of us.
Speaker 2: No no or or Charlamagne Is talked about it before.
Speaker 2: He was driving in the car with his homies. He
Speaker 2: got pulled over when of his homies had something illegal.
Speaker 3: They had cocaine on them.
Speaker 2: Charlomagne didn't know it was in the car, no idea,
Speaker 2: Charlomage tells, and I.
Speaker 3: With Wendy Williams, No I didn't tell. I'm in the
Speaker 3: back seat of.
Speaker 6: The car and said you better tell all this exactly
Speaker 6: he gave. He handed over his license and registration, and
Speaker 6: inside the lights of registration he had three grams of cocaine.
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
Speaker 6: So I'm talking ship to the police, really cracking jokes, whatever, whatever, please,
Speaker 6: I put your hand behind you back.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shit, what I didn't said? That went
Speaker 3: too far? We find cocaine. I'm like cocaine? Who had cocaine?
Speaker 6: And he was The cop was like, whose is it?
Speaker 6: I said, it's not mine. So let's use the process
Speaker 6: of elimination. It's one of these two individuals.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, was y'all doing lines nor goal line?
Speaker 4: Would y'all go to do lines at night?
Speaker 3: I know hadaine?
Speaker 1: Okay, so listen. So right, so look, if.
Speaker 4: You not thugging or if you're not in any street life,
Speaker 4: this is this is just simple street life, then it
Speaker 4: don't have nothing to do with you. And really your
Speaker 4: partner should be like, this is mine.
Speaker 6: Absolutely right. So wait until we got to the jail
Speaker 6: to do it, which is too late.
Speaker 5: Then he thought about it on the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happened. Charla was like, either you gonna
Speaker 2: tell ing Lama, tell him. That's why what I have accountability.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but but if me and my homeboys.
Speaker 4: Let's say, if I'm with Joey, Right, if I'm with
Speaker 4: Joey west Side and I know he not thugging, and
Speaker 4: I got a gun, it's gonna be my gun. I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna let him get in trouble for my gun.
Speaker 4: But that's just being a man. That's all street life
Speaker 4: is about in general, even whether you're a criminal or not.
Speaker 4: It's just about being a man and standing up for
Speaker 4: all of the right things.
Speaker 3: You don't never get tired of being in the screeg No, why.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not being anywhere right, Like my my
Speaker 4: conduct is consistent with the upbringing.
Speaker 1: Right. Why would I change my moral code for what?
Speaker 4: Like I walk in the breakfast club or if I
Speaker 4: walk anyway, what's the point of what? Am I changing
Speaker 4: my moral cold too? Like the only next thing is
Speaker 4: like religion, Like whe where else would I go? Like
Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to be a regular person. Motherfuckers is
Speaker 4: the scum of the fucking earth. I mean, like, you
Speaker 4: don't stand by nothing. You know, people mistreat each other,
Speaker 4: they don't they save mean ship to each other. You
Speaker 4: could be driving, motherfucker, be like, shut up and call
Speaker 4: you crazy. The tow truck man that was in uber
Speaker 4: call a nigga a bitch, like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to.
Speaker 6: So you're telling me that a man that calls somebody
Speaker 6: a woman a bitch don't have no morals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you call no a man, he called another
Speaker 1: man a bitch.
Speaker 3: If you call a woman a bitch.
Speaker 4: I don't know that called a man a bitch. So
Speaker 4: it was a man hitting the you turn and you
Speaker 4: know how New York motherfuckerspl and shit. So it was
Speaker 4: a man in a carriage and here a you turn
Speaker 4: in front of the tow truck and the motherfucker's like yeah,
Speaker 4: you know you bitch ass motherfucker and you know your
Speaker 4: your your your driver don't know how to drive. And
Speaker 4: it's like see that, Like where come from? You call
Speaker 4: a man another man a bitch, you better be ready
Speaker 4: to fight. And I think in regular life, if you
Speaker 4: hit the motherfucker for calling them a bitch, they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, they'll call the police.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't put my hands on you.
Speaker 3: But what about calling a woman a bitch?
Speaker 6: Because that woman is somebody's sister, somebody's wife, somebody's daughters.
Speaker 3: What if that man want to fight you because you
Speaker 3: called the woman a bitch.
Speaker 1: That's the point. You gotta take the fed right you squabble, Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's all.
Speaker 2: Aboutbody want to squabble though, Like so, so you call
Speaker 2: that man a bitch, right now, that man comes and
Speaker 2: it's snuff you. You call police and he gets arrested,
Speaker 2: and now you press charges. There's no morals, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Why is that no morals?
Speaker 2: You can't me a bitch? And then when I react
Speaker 2: to you called them a bitch upunt you in the face.
Speaker 2: He puts me in the face you started.
Speaker 1: Yes, but you people want action.
Speaker 6: I agree with that, but I mean I still that's
Speaker 6: still reserve to right to call you agree with you?
Speaker 1: Why would you?
Speaker 4: And see That's what I'm saying with them in that middle,
Speaker 4: Like so, like religious people, morally, the goal is to
Speaker 4: be here.
Speaker 1: The streets is here.
Speaker 4: Regular people don't really have no moral they don't have
Speaker 4: no true sense of accountability.
Speaker 6: I agree with what NB just said, not because of
Speaker 6: the street shit. And I agree with what you're saying,
Speaker 6: but not because it's scree just because I like to
Speaker 6: see people have to deal with the consequences.
Speaker 3: Of their action.
Speaker 1: That's what the streets.
Speaker 6: If you punch me in the face, you gotta deal
Speaker 6: with the consequences of that action.
Speaker 3: But that's regardless of what it is. If I call
Speaker 3: you a bitch, I gotta deal with that.
Speaker 6: Sure, if you punch me in the face, now you
Speaker 6: gotta deal with whatever that comes. Great, and it might
Speaker 6: come with me calling nine one one.
Speaker 2: But nowadays you have to know that if Charlemagne or
Speaker 2: somebody's calling you a bitch, it's usually a setup, right,
Speaker 2: because they want to set you up to punch you
Speaker 2: in the face, and then what that They're gonnarest you.
Speaker 5: They're gonna miswork for nine months, they're gonna see you.
Speaker 3: True. I'm just hoping you're not doing that. I'm hoping
Speaker 3: you don't do that.
Speaker 6: I hope I can get That's the thing, right everybody,
Speaker 6: I hope they can do some shit and hope nobody
Speaker 6: not Accountabiley.
Speaker 4: So so when you ask me about do I it's
Speaker 4: not being in the streets is not like a location, right,
Speaker 4: It's a It's a conduct. It's the way you act.
Speaker 4: It's the way you really is rooted in masculinity and accountability.
Speaker 4: It's being responsible. I can make him you.
Speaker 3: Can be a man and you can't and have accountability.
Speaker 3: I'll be in the street.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but when you say being in the streets that's
Speaker 4: where you get the sense of accountability from. Obviously, I'm
Speaker 4: not selling sharm on one hundred and seventeenth Street no more. Right,
Speaker 4: but the conduct still remains the same. I didn't assimilate
Speaker 4: it into mainstream. I didn't become successful and changed my
Speaker 4: life and then start okay, well, I'm gonna still enjoy
Speaker 4: Gunner's music even though he don't have no shame and
Speaker 4: he told on that man like that. Don't change my conduct,
Speaker 4: my cold, my moral, my behavior, the moral compass doesn't change.
Speaker 6: You got a song on the new album called Kanye
Speaker 6: should have Never married that bitch.
Speaker 3: Jesus talk to about that record. What do you mean
Speaker 3: it's that bade?
Speaker 1: Is that really bad? Yes?
Speaker 3: That's bad? Why you call it? This? The mother of
Speaker 3: a child a business?
Speaker 2: Now, if Kanye comes to swings on you that what
Speaker 2: happens from then that's fair.
Speaker 1: We can line it up.
Speaker 4: It's a fair faith like if he wanted to faith
Speaker 4: he called me like glass, I need that.
Speaker 2: If he snuffs you, knock you down, he worth close
Speaker 2: to billion.
Speaker 4: I'm not soon first off from get up and dust
Speaker 4: cuts off or he finna win.
Speaker 1: Either way, we're fin the fight.
Speaker 4: But the idea of the song was turning the hole
Speaker 4: into a housewife. I just feel like in today's time
Speaker 4: his glasses, that's not that bad? Is that really that
Speaker 4: that we didn't got that far?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see the need to call her
Speaker 1: that not what's the bitch or ho?
Speaker 3: Both? What both classes?
Speaker 2: That's that man's wife, my ex wife.
Speaker 6: Crazy see snooping them back in the day. It wasn't
Speaker 6: right when they did it, but they never put a
Speaker 6: name to Why wasn't it right? They never put a
Speaker 6: name to it, and they didn't label like there was
Speaker 6: like there was certain views that you come on ge style.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, just you can't put a label.
Speaker 1: So you can't call a whole hole.
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe a generalization, but you can't say that person
Speaker 6: right there as a whole.
Speaker 1: Why not if.
Speaker 6: They're a whole, But if they not, they are anymore.
Speaker 6: But we got messed up at it is we started
Speaker 6: referring to all.
Speaker 1: Women as correct. But we all all knew all women
Speaker 1: wasn't we didn't.
Speaker 3: We didn't say it enough.
Speaker 4: No, No, we knew it, even if nobody else knew it.
Speaker 4: We knew all women wasn't holes. But what's wrong with.
Speaker 1: A girl if she's a hole? To call her a
Speaker 1: whole anymore? Though?
Speaker 5: But she's a mom and the housewife?
Speaker 1: Now right? A business woman?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you could have said Kanye should have
Speaker 2: married that business woman.
Speaker 4: If you get arrested for a feeling and you go
Speaker 4: to prison, you get out of jail when you fill
Speaker 4: out the application when they ask you are you're a feeling?
Speaker 4: Why can't you say I'm not a feeling anymore?
Speaker 3: I got parton? What if I got partoned?
Speaker 1: Okay, well who partner? Jimmy? The PaperWorks in our chair?
Speaker 1: The paperwork could not change it? Oh my god, no.
Speaker 4: So listen, I didn't No good look, and I'm so serious.
Speaker 4: This is serious part. So we wrote the song right,
Speaker 4: don't You can't turn the hole into our sall? That's
Speaker 4: why I did the song right. And I just felt
Speaker 4: like we're in a weird time where people are really trying.
Speaker 1: To wife worse. This is a big movement going on.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of really unstreet and unaccountable things right,
Speaker 4: and it's like people are not accountable, so they're just
Speaker 4: doing anything. And so when we wrote the song, we
Speaker 4: wasn't it wasn't even it's not specifically about them. Nobody
Speaker 4: was even thinking about Kanye or Kim when we wrote
Speaker 4: the music. We just wrote the music to be honest.
Speaker 4: I'm just listening to the song and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 4: you know. The idea of the song was called that
Speaker 4: bitch right, that bitch belonged to the streets. But I
Speaker 4: was thinking about it. We're such a time where nobody
Speaker 4: is actually like, it's hard for people to put a
Speaker 4: face to an idea because it's so far out of
Speaker 4: their wheelhouses every day, and I was like, damn, who
Speaker 4: going through something that proves and validates this idea? And
Speaker 4: Kanye just look at this situation.
Speaker 6: Well, I guess everybody has a pass, is what I
Speaker 6: would say, men and women.
Speaker 4: But we don't get to say we not that no more.
Speaker 4: But if you go to prison and you get two
Speaker 4: felonies for the rest of your life, you're a fella.
Speaker 6: That's like saying nobody can evolve. So Malcolm X wasn't
Speaker 6: always Malcolm Little. I mean, Malcolm Little did stay mackam
Speaker 6: Little he became Malcolm X.
Speaker 1: Totally agree.
Speaker 3: So you can you can definitely evolve and change.
Speaker 4: Do we think Kim evolved, Hell yeah, she didn't a
Speaker 4: hundred percent from ten years ago she did.
Speaker 2: How do we don't know, you know, because we don't
Speaker 2: know the situation that might have been. Kanye might have
Speaker 2: been a problem in that relationship. She might have wanted
Speaker 2: to be a housewife.
Speaker 4: The problem was when you first went into that relationship
Speaker 4: with that lady. It's a lot of stuff going on
Speaker 4: with women. Man, you gotta be really careful when you
Speaker 4: just jump out there. And obviously he wasn't listening to
Speaker 4: the Doctor Dre's album like he should have been. He
Speaker 4: would have knew that any of them Snoop Dogg's album.
Speaker 4: You can't turn the hole into a housewives. These are
Speaker 4: simple things, simple truths.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of holes that have been
Speaker 3: turned into housewives. I actually think.
Speaker 6: Sometimes in a lot of ways, holes make the best
Speaker 6: housewives because because just like people who've been in the street,
Speaker 6: they didn't been there, done that, and they don't want
Speaker 6: to do that no more.
Speaker 3: So they evolve and.
Speaker 6: Now they you would never know there's somebody married to
Speaker 6: a woman right now and had no idea glasses and
Speaker 6: them crips was running trains on her and watched in
Speaker 6: the nineties.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 4: No, I don't know that. No, but it's again. The
Speaker 4: concept is just really simple. And obviously you see it
Speaker 4: went down in flames. It went down in flames. It's
Speaker 4: not again, it's not. I don't want to sound like
Speaker 4: I'm being harsh to Kim.
Speaker 6: Or even but I don't know whose fault it were,
Speaker 6: but it could have been Kanye's fault that it went down.
Speaker 3: Sure, I think that's what you were trying to think.
Speaker 4: I'm not blaming her, just a bad idea, Like you
Speaker 4: got to get somebody that's a little bit more plausible
Speaker 4: for the job, and I don't think that that was
Speaker 4: the correct plausible person for the job. Her life was
Speaker 4: shaved to be something completely different. But again, sometimes like
Speaker 4: ever since I've been talking about the song, it's been
Speaker 4: more or less about Kim Kardashian, my like or dislike
Speaker 4: for Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1: That's just not true. I love Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 4: I mean, as much as you could love somebody you
Speaker 4: don't know that you don't have to really have a
Speaker 4: lot of respect for she was you know, yeah.
Speaker 1: No, because.
Speaker 6: Hasn't got a podcast called No Ceilings, y'all enjoy.
Speaker 4: Y's the point because everybody would be thinking, I'm crazy.
Speaker 1: She was sucking J Dick on tape.
Speaker 3: Jesus, that matters. I just mean somebody had a camera.
Speaker 1: No, she actually recorded, then they sold the video.
Speaker 3: That's a hustle. That's a hustle. Ge.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at her. I totally understand.
Speaker 4: I have the utmost respect for prostitutes, porn stars and
Speaker 4: anybody else that's hustling.
Speaker 1: But let's actually call it what it is.
Speaker 3: Most men that get with their women, they not getting
Speaker 3: a virgin. G. Come on, it's just the truth.
Speaker 6: They're not getting a virgin, whether it's on tape or
Speaker 6: not on tape.
Speaker 1: Him is far from a virgin man, Like we gotta.
Speaker 3: Go that far, but virgin every woman had the path.
Speaker 1: On tape, Jesus. So we just start with not sucking
Speaker 1: dig ona tape.
Speaker 3: In this day and age is kind of hard.
Speaker 6: See everybody pulling their phones out.
Speaker 3: This new generation got it rough. G.
Speaker 4: This is why I stay streaked, I see, because you
Speaker 4: have to have some moral compass and cold of behavior.
Speaker 1: Because look where we're at, like you like.
Speaker 4: Oh, now the only pool of women is who's sucking
Speaker 4: dig gonna tape?
Speaker 1: Now, I know, look at this one.
Speaker 4: So this is bout because I have to look at
Speaker 4: her face, right, because I don't want her to think
Speaker 4: like I'm like some kind of hee man woman had her.
Speaker 4: But it's like, it's too late if we start with
Speaker 4: sucking dig on tape.
Speaker 3: I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1: This woman has not sucked nobody dick on tape.
Speaker 4: And we've seen the video this lady, So I don't
Speaker 4: want her to think I'm just saying. I don't want
Speaker 4: her to think that I'm saying, we got at least
Speaker 4: start with not sucking dig on take.
Speaker 1: Okay, can we not wife who sucking dig.
Speaker 3: On test shouldn't be disqualified?
Speaker 6: Yes, it's yes, Okay, So what if what if the
Speaker 6: woman is given and doesn't know that he's being recorded.
Speaker 4: The exception is not the rule. She knew she was
Speaker 4: being recorded, she was performing, and then they sold the
Speaker 4: tape for money. They like Kanye's kids, His daughter gonna
Speaker 4: have to see that, his daughter gonna see this enemy
Speaker 4: like this man, this man calling my mother out of
Speaker 4: her name and it's not that's not what it is.
Speaker 4: I mean the young lady and young man, that's not
Speaker 4: what it is. They do this thing and don't think
Speaker 4: for tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Back to the streets. They teach you accountability.
Speaker 4: Everything you do. You remember, this shit is going to
Speaker 4: matter everybody else in regular life. Sucking dick ona tape,
Speaker 4: You will not think how that's gonna bother you because
Speaker 4: they don't fucking got no morals. Who the fuck would
Speaker 4: suck dick on tape and think like later on cry
Speaker 4: like I sucked dig on tape and everybody saw it.
Speaker 3: What about people? Who's secret?
Speaker 6: He just said.
Speaker 3: The exception is some people out there that we've seen.
Speaker 3: I don't want to bring those names up, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can't sell it right if you sell it,
Speaker 4: soe like, this is way past it, sucking dig onna tape, Like, yes,
Speaker 4: most women probably most women probably have gave flatio right,
Speaker 4: that's the way right, So most women have right, but
Speaker 4: they also not doing on tape correct. And then if
Speaker 4: they did it on tape, they're not selling it for
Speaker 4: money because they.
Speaker 6: Mean they're making the best out of a bad situation,
Speaker 6: Beyonce said turned lemited in the Lemonade g what was
Speaker 6: the bad situation?
Speaker 3: She got caught sucking dick on tape? Who got caught
Speaker 3: Kim and or whatever it was. But then they ended
Speaker 3: up selling it, right, Yeah, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 4: But told him, why is it wrong when I'm saying
Speaker 4: you sucking dick on tape?
Speaker 3: No, it's not wrong with saying I don't think they
Speaker 3: got caught.
Speaker 5: They solely. That's how everybody saw it.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I thought they got leaked and then they
Speaker 3: didn't know they solely solely. Anyway, let's move on.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: So, I see I didn't hear the album yet, but
Speaker 2: I see Notorious b I G on the album that
Speaker 2: a new verse old verse.
Speaker 5: No, that's a hooks Okay, I didn't hear it.
Speaker 4: It's caused the log. It's dope, the loco. It's a
Speaker 4: really dope song. It's really dope. At one time, I
Speaker 4: felt like Big Daddy came rapping at that bpm.
Speaker 2: You can you can relate of cane shit in one
Speaker 2: twere problems and me thinking I'm up.
Speaker 4: There like chub rock, and I closed with chub rock.
Speaker 4: That was the feel of the song. So I felt
Speaker 4: like such a hip hop Vet doing that, gotcha.
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you about something you sit in
Speaker 6: to the group chat the other day. You said that
Speaker 6: mcavelly album and Snoop's doggy style dog Father dog Father.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Snoops dog Father are the same album. Every
Speaker 6: time I come here, we be and some ship. So
Speaker 6: let's go right to it.
Speaker 1: It's not even front.
Speaker 4: If Tupac doesn't pass away, mcavelly would be considered what
Speaker 4: dog Father is because you would have been coming off
Speaker 4: such high production, high value production, high value everything. What
Speaker 4: happens to somebody really shaped the market. What happened to
Speaker 4: Tupac shaped the marketing and how we received the next album,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Snoop didn't have the benefit of that. He just dre
Speaker 1: skipped on.
Speaker 4: He just DJ Pool, Me and DJ Pool even talked
Speaker 4: about it, and he was talking about how much he
Speaker 4: had to how how hard it was working on that
Speaker 4: album much they didn't get to do certain things, and
Speaker 4: then Snoop got the utmost criticism for it. But imagine
Speaker 4: if mcavelly follows all lies on me and Tupac is
Speaker 4: alive and it doesn't have how do you want it?
Speaker 4: It doesn't have the success of California lovet two number
Speaker 4: one songs. It don't have the Johnny j production because
Speaker 4: him and POC had fell out at that point. It
Speaker 4: doesn't have Doctor Dre because now Doctor Dre is gone
Speaker 4: and you dissing him, and now we could listen to
Speaker 4: your dishes and judge whether or not we think it's okay.
Speaker 4: So I think they're almost like the same style of
Speaker 4: album as far as the way they will follow such huge,
Speaker 4: huge releases.
Speaker 6: So you're not talking about sonically because sonically I just
Speaker 6: think Mcavelly's just a way better album, and I think
Speaker 6: that album goes.
Speaker 3: Whether or not it's my no I mean, bomb first,
Speaker 3: hell Married.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite POC album.
Speaker 4: But again, following the album, I don't think we hear
Speaker 4: it the same way. I think we when somebody passes away,
Speaker 4: we take their music differently.
Speaker 1: We start to accept certain things.
Speaker 4: It has an ominous feel, things start to happen, and
Speaker 4: I think in park situation, him passing away made us
Speaker 4: feel a lot different about what we heard.
Speaker 3: Wasn't that the point of that album?
Speaker 6: Or whether't he coming out through the alias mcavelly, which
Speaker 6: it made even crazy.
Speaker 2: So you said, I'm confused, You're saying the Dog for
Speaker 2: the album. Yeah, it's on the same as the mcavelli album.
Speaker 4: Yes, I said, the only difference is Tupac passed away,
Speaker 4: so set a marketing landscape for how we receive it.
Speaker 6: I disagree with that now mcavell album and you said
Speaker 6: it's it's it's my favorite.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, But it's part of him passing
Speaker 4: away because of the ominous feel of the records.
Speaker 5: What records is you like on album Dog?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: I mean I like Pool's production.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pool did a lot of it, so I pretty
Speaker 4: much liked about three or four five songs.
Speaker 1: But again I like every song.
Speaker 4: On mcavelly because it just maybe if he's alive and
Speaker 4: he dis and nods, now it's different him this and.
Speaker 1: Nos in depth, it's like he did when he was alive. No,
Speaker 1: I mean on the records.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like if he's dissing jay Z, if he
Speaker 4: dissing notas if he's dissing doctor Dre and he's breathing air.
Speaker 4: Maybe again, right now we just talking about somebody looking
Speaker 4: at me crazy.
Speaker 3: You think they shouldn't have put the ABU ount is
Speaker 3: what you're saying.
Speaker 1: No, I think they did the right thing by putting
Speaker 1: the album out.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I think they're the same type of
Speaker 4: follow up to those albums, Doggy Style and dog Father.
Speaker 4: I think dog Father got a lot of unwarned criticism
Speaker 4: because of where everything was at at that time. I
Speaker 4: think DJ Pool being there, it didn't get enough credit
Speaker 4: because it wasn't Doctor Dre Doctor Dre leaving and I
Speaker 4: think Pop passed away, so it created a different space
Speaker 4: for us to hear the music.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think to Live and Die in La, and
Speaker 6: you correct me if I'm wrong. This is because I'm
Speaker 6: on the outside looking and to me, that is the
Speaker 6: when I think LA, I think the Living Die in
Speaker 6: La to mean that is the quintessential West.
Speaker 1: Coast record in Los Angeles.
Speaker 6: If I landed at the airport, I would want to
Speaker 6: hear the Living diel a plan you know what?
Speaker 3: That's over California love.
Speaker 4: Because I can understand that from somebody that's from out
Speaker 4: of town. In town probably not, but out of town.
Speaker 4: I mean to us, like, we'll probably thinking about shook
Speaker 4: Ones or cream like that. But I'm sure New York
Speaker 4: is a completely different vibeh.
Speaker 1: Ones to cream.
Speaker 2: But most people would think Empire State Jay Z and
Speaker 2: Alicia Keys. Most people think that when they come to
Speaker 2: New York the States, but US hip hopheads, I would
Speaker 2: think of p s A.
Speaker 5: Jay Z, I would think of shook ones. I would
Speaker 5: think of you know, records like that.
Speaker 4: That's a great point because I don't think nobody in
Speaker 4: New York would think of Empire State of Mind as
Speaker 4: the record that you would think that's something.
Speaker 1: But then we was crazy because were healing chilling cousin.
Speaker 4: There was a horse and carriage planning, and it was like, oh,
Speaker 4: this feels like New York.
Speaker 1: But I guess I never thought about it.
Speaker 5: Because that's a touristy type of song.
Speaker 2: But here we were gonna play PSA allow me to
Speaker 2: reintroduce myself ones like That's it's hard to say that's
Speaker 2: a touristy song when a post child for New York
Speaker 2: made it to be a New York anthem. The Empire
Speaker 2: State of Mind is doing exactly what jay Z wrote it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sporting events and stuff, but I think he made
Speaker 2: it for everybody to see New York from a wide perspective,
Speaker 2: correct versus get even though raw New.
Speaker 4: York vibes, whereas like like I said cream. When I
Speaker 4: think of New York, I think of Cream, or I
Speaker 4: think of I guess because I've been here too, so
Speaker 4: you see certain parts of certain worlds you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's rougher, and in part said of mind is so clean,
Speaker 4: but it does fit for us. I guess inside.
Speaker 1: Probably something like I love it. I love it.
Speaker 4: East Siders Okay, Okay, that's a that's a super inside
Speaker 4: of l A song.
Speaker 1: I guess that would be like our shook ones, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I love it the way the hommies come up to
Speaker 4: Snoop Dogg group, the East Siders, him and Trady and Goldie. Uh.
Speaker 4: Inside LA sugar Free, I'd rather give you my bitch.
Speaker 4: That's a super Los Angeles. You come into Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: I don't think nobody outside of Los Angeles really know
Speaker 4: about it, But inside of Los Angeles, that ship sets
Speaker 4: everything off.
Speaker 1: It's pretty fucking dough.
Speaker 6: When we talk about LA, is it anything that can
Speaker 6: be done to make the streets safe? Because when you
Speaker 6: think about you know, losing Great Nifty Hustle, losing.
Speaker 3: P and b Rock their way to make the streets safer.
Speaker 3: I guess in particular for rappers.
Speaker 1: Pop smoke, I mean, just people poor. I don't know.
Speaker 4: So many of these situations is just crazy. Like when
Speaker 4: we even we talked about what happened.
Speaker 1: With with A.
Speaker 4: P and B Rock, Like, you've been to La enough,
Speaker 4: You've been to La enough. I don't think either one
Speaker 4: of y'all been over there. I don't think either y'all
Speaker 4: been to Roscos. I'm sure multiple times neither one of
Speaker 4: y'all been to that rocks recently. But I wasn't stopping
Speaker 4: over there though, right, So that's like the locals Roscos,
Speaker 4: and it's like a place that look really poor.
Speaker 1: That's on the east side. This is my side of town.
Speaker 1: This is the Roscos I go to.
Speaker 4: I've been going there my whole life, and I don't
Speaker 4: think that's the kind of place where you jump out,
Speaker 4: so don't. I don't know if there's something that could
Speaker 4: be done except just making smarter decisions, Like I wouldn't
Speaker 4: go to no ghetto with what looks like two three
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars worth of jeweliy on. I just think
Speaker 4: that's a bad idea. I agree, I mean, why would
Speaker 4: you go around poor people You're supposed to look like
Speaker 4: an opportunity you're supposed to look like you can give
Speaker 4: an opportunity, not look like an opportunity. And I think
Speaker 4: a lot of times rappers it's a weird space. I
Speaker 4: think hip hop takes a lot of blame for a
Speaker 4: lot of shit, But I think the one thing that
Speaker 4: they have really elevated is floshing on poor people. Hip
Speaker 4: hop used to be the voice of poor people. Now
Speaker 4: it's about people telling other people how poor they is.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, And take your woman because
Speaker 6: you're too poor to have us.
Speaker 4: Broke nigga, You know, broke nigga. Me and broke niggas
Speaker 4: don't get along. It's just like God, damn all your
Speaker 4: partners is broke and your friends don't get along. So again,
Speaker 4: I think hip hop is and I think rappers are
Speaker 4: kind of flossing on poor people.
Speaker 1: Impoort.
Speaker 4: They gotta remember poor people following them, People who don't
Speaker 4: got a bunch of stuff. If you look on my page,
Speaker 4: you ain't seeing shit I got.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Because I know people that support me, they don't have
Speaker 4: what I have, So why would I go to any
Speaker 4: ghetto with just all this jery on?
Speaker 1: I just think that's a bad idea.
Speaker 4: So I don't think what needs to be done is
Speaker 4: rappers got to kind of realize maybe the goal is
Speaker 4: not to floss on poor people. I mean I think
Speaker 4: they I think rappers got to make their own adjustments.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's nothing that could be done amongst
Speaker 4: I think we blame poor people for enough shit.
Speaker 6: So so what about somebody like nip who who was
Speaker 6: providing opportunity?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that situation is really nuanced, Like we you know,
Speaker 4: we talked about that.
Speaker 1: It's a really weird situation.
Speaker 4: Between two people from you know, the same community in
Speaker 4: so many words, and it's like it's a situation that
Speaker 4: went bad, you know what I mean. And it's it's
Speaker 4: so much stuff that we don't know about it, even
Speaker 4: me being from right down the street and this being
Speaker 4: my friend, I don't so many things that I still
Speaker 4: am learning every day about the dynamics of it. Death
Speaker 4: just come with life, and it ain't no getting away
Speaker 4: and the solution ain't always getting away from poor people.
Speaker 4: That's not going to cause you to die. It's just
Speaker 4: you know, we can die. That's the point of it.
Speaker 4: We can die, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 4: think it's more important that we stay around poor people
Speaker 4: and providing opportunities and help when people get, you know,
Speaker 4: the better their life. That's the only solution. More opportunities
Speaker 4: for livable wages for poor people. I was thinking about
Speaker 4: that too. Hip hop is the America's last hope. Explain
Speaker 4: you mean just culturally what we represent that, Like I'm
Speaker 4: saying accountability, making.
Speaker 1: Sure a square is still a square.
Speaker 4: Like the fact that right now I'm telling y'all, you know,
Speaker 4: this lady is probably not the kind of lady you
Speaker 4: should marry, because in the everyday world is just losing
Speaker 4: morals every day. It's just more things are becoming acceptable
Speaker 4: for no reason, just for some false sense of inclusion,
Speaker 4: and it's just not real.
Speaker 6: But hip hop, and I love hip hop, so don't
Speaker 6: take this the wrong way. But hip hop can normalize
Speaker 6: a lot of bullshit too. We have normalized a lot
Speaker 6: of bullshit.
Speaker 4: But have we really normalized a lot of bullshit that
Speaker 4: wasn't normal in our communities already?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 6: Like what I think that we've celebrated a lot of
Speaker 6: Like we celebrated the drug culture, Like we've glorified the
Speaker 6: gang culture. I think a lot of times people did
Speaker 6: those things out of survival, especially especially hustling. So we
Speaker 6: turned it turned into a thing people did out of
Speaker 6: survival that people never spoke about to coming cool, making
Speaker 6: records about it, like everybody want to be a dope
Speaker 6: boy or trap boy?
Speaker 4: Now, I mean, is that really the ghetto? I mean,
Speaker 4: what year the scarface come out? I don't know what
Speaker 4: the seventy something seems like it got worse though, No,
Speaker 4: it just became something appearing to us like we we
Speaker 4: take the burden. We take the blame as far as
Speaker 4: the ghetto, street urban culture, hip hop takes the blame
Speaker 4: for everything America's been celebrating this shit.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, But if we know better, shouldn't we do better?
Speaker 6: Like, if we know these things only lead a lot
Speaker 6: of our people to jail, a lot of our people dead,
Speaker 6: shouldn't we come up with something else?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: I think what we as far as hip hop, we
Speaker 4: also do do the best job for the people at
Speaker 4: the lowest parts of.
Speaker 1: Our community needed.
Speaker 4: Every while, I do agree that there is some responsibility,
Speaker 4: it's more about the elite. It's more about the top.
Speaker 4: It ain't really about the bottom. The bottom is going
Speaker 4: to be the bottom because it's you know, motherfuckers don't know,
Speaker 4: they ignorant, they don't have the information. So it's about
Speaker 4: us at the top, right, it's about the jay z.
Speaker 4: It's about envious about the people at the top, right
Speaker 4: by poor people. And you can't ask poor people to
Speaker 4: make better decisions out of you poor everything you do
Speaker 4: is by necessity.
Speaker 3: So I agree with that.
Speaker 6: But to your to what we were talking about earlier, Man,
Speaker 6: when you go down to that bottom, that's when you
Speaker 6: get real morals.
Speaker 3: That's when you get real principles.
Speaker 6: People that may not have a dollar, but they still
Speaker 6: got an integrity about themselves. Sometimes people at the top
Speaker 6: with all that money don't have that integrity.
Speaker 4: Well, they got the same integrity because the same person
Speaker 4: gonna sell drugs, right, the wealthiest person and big pharma
Speaker 4: and the poorest person gonna sell dope, same mentality. So
Speaker 4: I think it's about the job we do by other
Speaker 4: poor people within hip hop. That's the only place we
Speaker 4: fell in that in my mind, we don't.
Speaker 1: Do a really ghetto.
Speaker 4: People that succeed don't do the best job by people
Speaker 4: that's not succeeding. It's always kind of like, oh, you
Speaker 4: figure it out, Like that's why we started the New West.
Speaker 4: At that time, it was like it's way too much
Speaker 4: y'all figured out versus hey man, this is how you
Speaker 4: do it. You in the door, now let me show
Speaker 4: you how.
Speaker 1: To do it.
Speaker 3: It was you, it was Kendrick, it was Nip who was.
Speaker 4: Up Mike stro So that that hip hop has to
Speaker 4: do a much better job of that, Like the the
Speaker 4: people that are successful gotta come grab people that ain't successful.
Speaker 1: That's the whole premise. That's why it works so well.
Speaker 4: So I think, no, I don't blame us for I
Speaker 4: don't think we normalized drug dealing. I think drug drug
Speaker 4: dealing is normal in our ghettos.
Speaker 3: Definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we supposed to.
Speaker 5: We made it cool.
Speaker 1: Well it's not. It was cool because it was cool
Speaker 1: because it was success in the community.
Speaker 2: That I think they but a lot of people talked
Speaker 2: about an act like they did. Like even we talked
Speaker 2: about this morning on Yesterdays show. We talked about Michael
Speaker 2: Irving and his son, and Mike Rveran was like, my
Speaker 2: son is not that street yet, but he was. His
Speaker 2: son was acting rapping like a street dude because he
Speaker 2: probably sees it working. But he was like Mike Veran
Speaker 2: was like, my son grew up in the gated community.
Speaker 2: It was there's no street in him.
Speaker 1: Well, we had this conversation a many times before.
Speaker 4: I think that's the problem when everybody's trying to jump
Speaker 4: on the way that poor people have to kind of create.
Speaker 1: A way out for themselves.
Speaker 4: If you're a middle class person and you on the
Speaker 4: next track to be Michael Irvan's son and maybe go
Speaker 4: coach a football team, why the fuck is you doing?
Speaker 1: Rap? I mean, you just want But that's another thing.
Speaker 6: Glass alone told me I'm not a man if I'm
Speaker 6: not in the street.
Speaker 4: No glasses Malone told you the streets made him a man.
Speaker 4: Michael Irvin made cousin man. You know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like Nigga, your middle your wealthy existence was the platform.
Speaker 6: That that proves you don't have to be street or
Speaker 6: necessarily religious.
Speaker 3: Then still morals in a person, Well.
Speaker 4: I don't know, because Mike erv was saying he don't
Speaker 4: got morals right now. He's like, man, I don't know.
Speaker 3: What's lack of morals. That's just like you pretending to
Speaker 3: be something you're not.
Speaker 2: That's a lack of morals.
Speaker 3: Ain't committing the crime, you just rapping about it.
Speaker 1: That should be a crime. We're just just lying and
Speaker 1: ship like you just Street and thug and up man
Speaker 1: some motherfucking interview.
Speaker 5: That's the truth, lied.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of rappers say they done killed
Speaker 2: this person, shot this person, but a lot of it
Speaker 2: is not true.
Speaker 1: I hope not.
Speaker 4: I hope not. I host everybody. I was just telling
Speaker 4: them the other day we was talking about Drake was
Speaker 4: talking about your boy, right, so he was like, the.
Speaker 1: Whole shit was Joe.
Speaker 4: And my whole point with Joe was like, how do
Speaker 4: you talk about Drake's mute?
Speaker 1: This is what Drake do. If you're not a.
Speaker 4: Fan of Drake music, you're not a fan of the
Speaker 4: current wave of whatever's going on.
Speaker 3: Oh I saw you do that. I saw I don't
Speaker 3: know whose podcast was you when I saw that.
Speaker 4: Back on, I'm telling them and my nigga was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: well you know what about him talking Street. I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: Drake talked like he was making threats in the chat,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't want to find out. I
Speaker 4: don't want to be the nigga to find out that
Speaker 4: he has spent some money. So my whole attitude is like,
Speaker 4: do I thank the man out there thugging?
Speaker 1: Probably not. You know what, if I might even fluce,
Speaker 1: you could do some dumb ass shit.
Speaker 4: So if he trick his shit off playing around with
Speaker 4: the low level, then let's see all he.
Speaker 6: Got people around him that could be about that life.
Speaker 6: Who tied of people playing with their money?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they ain't talking. They wanted you to get some money.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, but they got to.
Speaker 3: I thought what you said was true though.
Speaker 6: It was just like, yo, if you to not like
Speaker 6: this Drake album is kind of hypocritical because it's the.
Speaker 3: Same music that he's That's what I say. It's the
Speaker 3: same music.
Speaker 1: Whatever the current he's the best at like Madonna. That's enough.
Speaker 4: Everybody got mad when I kept comparing with Madonna, And
Speaker 4: it's like Madonna used to do the same thing with music.
Speaker 4: She would take whatever the current wave of music and
Speaker 4: make a Madonna's song. Drake does the same thing right now.
Speaker 4: So if you you can't really dislike Drake's music, it's
Speaker 4: like you can't really dislike McDonald's. You can talk about
Speaker 4: it's unhealthy. You could make a lot of ridiculous arguments
Speaker 4: like I'm not in the mood for it. I want better,
Speaker 4: But come on, man, like Drake is like Drake, she
Speaker 4: is like a happy meal. It's kind of hard to
Speaker 4: kind of really hate on you just kind of be like,
Speaker 4: I ain't needing that shit today.
Speaker 2: But you can say, like I think some people say
Speaker 2: I want more rapping. Some people can say I want
Speaker 2: more of this type of song. But like you said,
Speaker 2: you can't hate this, it's true.
Speaker 4: But who would even want more from Drake? Like it's
Speaker 4: like want more from McDonald's. I want McDonald's to sell stakes.
Speaker 4: That's just not what Drake does. Drake has done the
Speaker 4: same consistent thing this whole time, whatever the current way,
Speaker 4: whatever's going on. He makes that and he's gonna make
Speaker 4: it the best it could be made at a mask consumption.
Speaker 1: That's my point. So I think it makes sense, makes sense.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: No for real because it matters back ten and everybody
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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, just just enough.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's Glass alone, It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Good morning with that ass up in the morning. The
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