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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Morning, everybody in Steve j n V. Charlamagne, the guy.

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Speaker 2: We are the breakfast Club. We got a special guest

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Speaker 2: in the building, my guy Classes Malone's welcome.

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Speaker 1: Back brother crying, laughing, Man.

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Speaker 3: What happens?

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Speaker 4: You're eventful dog. You just no this trip to every

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Speaker 4: time I come to New York, the trip being ventful. Okay,

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Speaker 4: my toro caught a flat you renal, Yeah, my toro, right, so.

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Speaker 2: It's not big. It's not big here, but his toro

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Speaker 2: is big everywhere.

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Speaker 4: So it's like, so we got here soon as we

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Speaker 4: got off the airplane. Right, we got off of Guardian,

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Speaker 4: So we get to Touro pick up the car. The

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Speaker 4: car is sketchy.

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Speaker 1: Because the man didn't change it in the last minute.

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Speaker 4: So he went from a twenty twenty camera to a

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Speaker 4: twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: A laundra. Okay, you know you notice a different. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how to turn the lights on.

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Speaker 4: I ain't used to get in the cars that the

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Speaker 4: lights don't automatically come on at this point.

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Speaker 1: Soon as we get we leaving, we want the.

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Speaker 4: Queens to eat to that's this little barbecue spot. The

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Speaker 4: police pull us over, have us for thirty minutes, damn.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just thinking this whole trip, it's just been crazy.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, soon as we get pulled over, right, the

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Speaker 4: man asking us all kinds of questions, like what y'all

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Speaker 4: doing in New York. I was like, man, I'm come

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Speaker 4: to do some press and this, that and the third.

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Speaker 4: So were telling him we come from the airport. I

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Speaker 4: showed the man the ticket and everything, and the man

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Speaker 4: just talking to me cousin. I'm like, yeah, man, we

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Speaker 4: just came in. He's like, you know, y'all got some

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Speaker 4: in the luggage, nigga, we had to be the greatest

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Speaker 4: international smugglers in the world to get.

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Speaker 1: It from the airport.

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Speaker 4: So we get there, We finally eat bn we go

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Speaker 4: to the Airbnb, so they.

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Speaker 2: Let y'all go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but took thirty minutes. The lights wasn't known in

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Speaker 1: the car. Yeah, but it was just weird.

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Speaker 4: Then the next day we're going to meet up with

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Speaker 4: a hommy, my homeboy, Trey that writing stuff for the

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Speaker 4: Athletic in New York Times, her riding for sports and stuff.

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Speaker 4: Trey Edwards the toro catch a flat when we coming

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Speaker 4: through the Lincoln Town so then we stuck on fifty fifth.

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Speaker 1: And what's that fifty fifth and like.

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Speaker 4: Probably like fifth Avenue just parked on the street in

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Speaker 4: front of the dunkin Donuts for like four hours.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they were a sign to get some donuts.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 4: We even got some steak okay, And then I went

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Speaker 4: to the steakhouse. Then I went to my favor, my

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Speaker 4: favorite steakhouse in New York. Uh Del Friscos. They wouldn't

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Speaker 4: let U see.

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Speaker 2: What sweats up yeah, twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, damn, so we can't eve that my favorite.

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Speaker 4: So we go to another steakhouse and it was cool,

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Speaker 4: and we waited on the people.

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Speaker 1: From to row.

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Speaker 4: So we reported the old the whole ship, and they

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Speaker 4: sent the road side assistance. And by the time the

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Speaker 4: roadside systems have come, it's eight hours. The tire shop

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Speaker 4: is two blocks.

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Speaker 5: You could have just drove two blocks and gotta fix yourself.

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Speaker 3: Well not on the flat t yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now they could have ran on now.

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Speaker 4: So then I didn't know the address changed. It's just

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Speaker 4: been an eventful New York.

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Speaker 5: But you went to the old ad just this morning, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Was it boarded up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was weird. You couldn't get in.

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Speaker 4: It had a weird door to the lobby, and men

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Speaker 4: was like, yeah, we ain't you know they left in January.

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Speaker 6: Oh we've been going. We've been Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 6: why to produce it. Didn't tell you that it's all good.

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Speaker 1: It's just been one of them New York trip here

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Speaker 1: the bullshit. Hey man, it's all good that I got. Hey,

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Speaker 1: there you go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, why are you still doing physical CDs? I already

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Speaker 3: bought tennedy.

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Speaker 4: I have it for you right now. Okay, hold up,

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Speaker 4: I got something for you every special cause at this

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Speaker 4: right here. Yeah, that's dope. Why are you still doing this?

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Speaker 4: Why I still see these so as an independent? Because

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Speaker 4: right you sell four thousand copies. I sell mine's autograph

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Speaker 4: at twenty five dollars. That's how you do your business.

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Speaker 4: M simple as that. Everything else is streaming is good,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But that's a royalty. You

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Speaker 4: still got to sell music. My music good enough, though.

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Speaker 4: I really believe my shit good enough to sell. So

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Speaker 4: I'll be selling this though.

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Speaker 3: And it's called cancel these nuts.

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Speaker 6: To explain that title, it's pretty it's pretty pretty.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I mean you talk to me enough

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Speaker 1: to know I don't really give.

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Speaker 4: I really just I'm honest with what I think, and

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Speaker 4: I'm not really intimidated. I feel like the industry, you know,

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Speaker 4: the h the powers that be didn't make me, so

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Speaker 4: they can't break me, and they can't take what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just saying all the stuff I want to say.

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Speaker 3: I think canceled coaches on this last legs anyway.

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Speaker 6: Actually, I actually think it's over because I think people

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Speaker 6: finally realize that it's all a circular firing squad.

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Speaker 1: So you may.

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Speaker 6: Shoot at that person today, but then it's gonna come

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Speaker 6: around in your turn eventually.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, so you feel like it's only be because it was,

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Speaker 4: like I don't want nobody to remember.

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Speaker 6: I think everybody's like, I don't want to be a hypocrit.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to contradict myself. I know I probably

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Speaker 6: got some bullshit that people could bring up to and

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Speaker 6: if you hold everybody to the same standard, it's only

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Speaker 6: a matter of time before it's either you are somebody

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Speaker 6: you really really uck with that they calling to get canceled.

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Speaker 6: So what side you're gonna be on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we definitely in this special where I think everything

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Speaker 4: is starting to be just obviously true, Like you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I remember five years ago, Jada and Will was goals.

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Speaker 4: That shit spoiled like milk, nobody know what to do,

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Speaker 4: So I think that's a coach is the same thing.

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Speaker 4: I think all the ideas was never none permanent anyway.

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Speaker 4: That's why I kind of don't really get on trends

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Speaker 6: But I think what you're saying is, you know, everybody

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Speaker 6: had this vision of perfection, whether it was Jad and Will,

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Speaker 6: they had a vision of perfection, whether it's the way

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Speaker 6: we're supposed to move in society, it's a vision of perfection.

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Speaker 3: Nothing's perfect.

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Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying, Like, how do we start

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Speaker 4: at that place from it? Like, how do we get

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Speaker 4: started with that? I was just having this whole conversation

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Speaker 4: about the same thing, like there's no way possible, especially

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Speaker 4: women chase that specific thing perfection, and it's no way possible.

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Speaker 1: So even setting somebody else as a.

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Speaker 4: Goal is ridiculous. I was listening to this shit jay

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Speaker 4: Z was saying. He was like five hundred thousand. He

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Speaker 4: was like, y'all just take the five hundred thousand. Jay

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Speaker 4: Z said that about jay Z for the five hundred

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Speaker 4: thousand yep, and I was like, damn, well, the truth

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Speaker 4: is coming.

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Speaker 1: It's like my time. It's good time to be a

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Speaker 1: live for me. You know what I mean. It's honest.

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Speaker 5: Niggas tell me the truth.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: But at that time, the world wasn't really like, you know,

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Speaker 4: accepting to the truth. Last time I was here, I

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Speaker 4: was niggas was threatening in my life over a song.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you did Tupac mus die So.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, why are you mad at me

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Speaker 1: for telling the truth? It was enough.

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Speaker 4: The nigga that made the song. He made a song

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Speaker 4: that was like some kind of crazy Tupac conspiracy idea

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Speaker 4: about soul and the Illuminati and shit. And I remember

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Speaker 4: watching this interview. He was like, man, this guy stole

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Speaker 4: my song. And I was like, I never heard of it.

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Speaker 4: And in the interview he's like, yeah, you know, well

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Speaker 4: if glasses you know in his story that don't even

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Speaker 4: make sense. Whoever heard a story like that? I bet

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Speaker 4: you that nigga somewhere looking like oh shit.

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Speaker 6: But you had you You had first hand knowledge of

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Speaker 4: Not not not only just firsthand knowledge, it was just

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Speaker 4: common knowledge amongst everybody in the streets and the like.

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Speaker 1: We all knew in real time what was going on.

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Speaker 6: Well, you shouldn't have put it in a song. You

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Speaker 6: should have sat down with Black TV and told the story.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: Heavy.

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Speaker 5: Situation.

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Speaker 1: Keevy is crazy.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 4: I'm praying for him, you know what I mean. He

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Speaker 4: in a tough situation. It's gonna be tough as a motherfucker,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. You gotta fight a case.

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Speaker 4: But I'm sure you're gonna get a turny, good representation.

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Speaker 4: And I doubt that a lot of the interviews is

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Speaker 4: something they could really use. I'm interested to see the discovery,

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Speaker 4: to see what they really have. As far as ever

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Speaker 4: you booking those interviews, Yeah, I need to see it.

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Speaker 1: Ye gotta make that.

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Speaker 3: One last that they even reached out to him.

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Speaker 1: Was on the news. He was like, yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: my interviews.

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Speaker 4: I was like this, nigga, is you need as a

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Speaker 4: as a journalist?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 6: Yes, Now, why hasn't been eight years since a Glasshouse two?

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Speaker 6: Last House two is your last album?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Same same mission. Man.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: When I first started figuring all this stuff out, I

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Speaker 4: was learning hip hop. Last time I saw y'all you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean. Before the last time, I was

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Speaker 4: just figuring it all out, same thing, figuring it all

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Speaker 4: out and taking my time getting back into the space

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Speaker 4: to make sure I can make something that represented where

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Speaker 4: we was at as far as the getto in general.

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Speaker 1: And it's so many.

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Speaker 4: Where street urban culture at as a whole is in

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Speaker 4: such a funky place to where like you could like

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Speaker 4: a rapper dog and he'll be your guy, he'd be busting,

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Speaker 4: he got all the cuts. But then he'll do some

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Speaker 4: whole ass ship and then you'll be stuck with it

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Speaker 4: some ship that don't represent you, like you might like

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Speaker 4: this rapper right and then cuz gonna just wear some

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Speaker 4: figure out polis.

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Speaker 6: Stop looking for perfection the same way we can't look

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Speaker 6: for perfection and Jayden will or people in your street ship,

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Speaker 6: you can't look for perfection.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that wh not because that's not

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Speaker 1: cool to you.

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Speaker 6: To me first of all, you know, I hate the

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Speaker 6: street conversation because I think the street ship is silly.

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Speaker 3: But if you the ultimate.

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Speaker 1: Street that's not what you all your always.

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Speaker 3: You got it, you got it a lot, you got

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Speaker 3: paint a fingernails.

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Speaker 5: Does that make you soft.

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Speaker 4: Nobody who got all the cocaine will paint their fingernails.

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Speaker 5: Why that's.

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Speaker 4: That's not what If you like this rapper right, he

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Speaker 3: Ever, this new generation different.

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Speaker 2: It's not the generation glasses. You don't see people men

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Speaker 2: wearing persons all the time. No, only niggas that follow

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Speaker 2: rap I don't. I've never been to a ghetto niggas

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Speaker 2: was wearing persons. You can't go to one borough, you

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Speaker 6: Where is this happening into the hood in a long time.

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Speaker 6: So I don't know what they're doing. But they had

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Speaker 1: They would be a girl with a gun. Girls got guns.

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Speaker 3: Little girls can't be street.

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Speaker 1: Yes they are, but it's a girl.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: Look, you gotta think eventually that it's a reason they

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Speaker 4: you know, I just felt I wanted, come on, man, No,

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Speaker 4: no man wakes up wanting to just wear a purse.

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Speaker 1: That is, we've never saw a person like me. That's nice.

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Speaker 1: I want that. That don't even connect.

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Speaker 4: So again we be in these weird spaces where we

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Speaker 3: What does the street dude in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: Anybody that grew up in street urban culture. It don't

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Speaker 4: mean you have to be a criminal. It's just it

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Speaker 4: raised you. It's you know, really, religion and street ethics

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Speaker 1: They don't really have no morals.

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Speaker 2: I don't think street people have morals anymore.

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Speaker 1: Of course they do.

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Speaker 4: If you from the street, you don't have no choice

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Speaker 1: It's gonna come with accountability.

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Speaker 6: I get what n be saying I feel like they

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Speaker 6: know if i'll call it more, I would say principles

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Speaker 4: Right, But again, everything always happened back in the day, right,

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Speaker 4: But it was Also, I think we keep confusing what

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Speaker 1: That's that's the truth is that that's not the street.

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Speaker 4: Social media is a completely different place that you can

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Speaker 4: go and do anything. So when I talk to my

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Speaker 4: this Gucci purse, not one ghetto. I don't care if

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Speaker 4: I called my it's not me.

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Speaker 1: See, that's.

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Speaker 3: Know how you feel.

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Speaker 4: No, listen, that is not true. Nobody is wearing a purse.

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Speaker 4: Why would a man wear a purse?

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Speaker 3: They got man purses. They call it the one that man.

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Speaker 1: A satchel.

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Speaker 5: Purse.

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Speaker 1: It's a satchel.

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Speaker 3: We'll call it a satchel.

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Speaker 1: That's not no.

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Speaker 4: They no, they be wearing purses like designer person or

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Speaker 4: fingernail polish or dresses were telling. It's like telling like

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Speaker 4: we can't even come to snitching.

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Speaker 2: This guy is crazy, man, But it seems like it's

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Speaker 2: it seems like it's so normal right now people people

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Speaker 3: Why do we act like firsther of all, stinching ain't normal.

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Speaker 3: I mean, snitch ain't new. I don't know a time

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Speaker 3: when they happen.

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Speaker 4: It's normalized now though, it's normal, but it's not. Again,

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Speaker 4: what's going on on the internet. Ain't like hip hop

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Speaker 4: really used to be a representation of what was going

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Speaker 4: it's like removed, like, I don't know, it's not the same.

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Speaker 4: I agree, right, people have always snitched, and back in

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Speaker 4: the day, niggas used to have like shame, like you

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Speaker 4: didn't just die for snitching.

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Speaker 1: You moved off and you realized the street life wasn't

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Speaker 4: Some people got killed, some people got beat up and

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Speaker 4: stitches and all that. But for the most part, you know,

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Speaker 4: people used to just move off. They would just go

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Speaker 4: off into the yonder and realize get you know, go

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Speaker 4: boy Andre changes Now he ain't Big Dre no more Andre.

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Speaker 4: He just some regular nigga living his life, working at

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Speaker 4: the factory. Now, niggas will be in the midst of

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Speaker 4: shit still right then and there. The only thing that's

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Speaker 4: changes niggas don't have shame, ain't no more shame is missing.

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Speaker 4: So snitching has always happened, right, but it used to

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Speaker 4: come with accountability. It wouldn't be like in Gunner situation.

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Speaker 4: He wouldn't be runs motherfucker floorting around like Hey, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna go do concerts, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah. He'd be like, all right, let

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Speaker 1: me go sit my eyes down, let me not talk tough.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Obviously this is not cut

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Speaker 1: out for me.

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Speaker 4: Now, was like, okay, well, the average human, average everyday

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Speaker 4: person don't really care, so I can still make my money.

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Speaker 4: So they don't even care about what's going on, like

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Speaker 4: their reputation. They just like, what fucking I'm.

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Speaker 6: Don't think Gunna getting ad a bad rap because the

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Speaker 6: person that he allegedly told on hasn't said that and

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Speaker 6: his dad, Thug's dad even said Gunna didn't do anything

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Speaker 6: that would hurt Thug's case.

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Speaker 3: That's just a lie.

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Speaker 1: It's just not true.

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Speaker 4: If your whole if the whole premise of your case

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Speaker 4: is built off, if the whole charges you are running

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Speaker 4: a record label, that's a game. And somebody says, yes,

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Speaker 4: it is a gang, it's obvious. It's not even like

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Speaker 4: one of my young homies, mom, but young homie Reil.

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Speaker 4: He was like, oh man, you know I need to

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Speaker 4: see paperwork, bro, it's on tape.

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Speaker 3: But it's obvious. It's obvious. They said they said they

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Speaker 3: were a gang in records and stuff.

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Speaker 4: But you have to deny it. That's the point of it.

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Speaker 4: So right, you have to deny it when it's a

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Speaker 4: legal charge. So when he was like, yes, are you

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Speaker 4: saying that wy Sail is the street? Yes, ma'am, that's telling.

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Speaker 6: So Thug's father saying him what Gunna said had nothing

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Speaker 6: to do did not hurt their case in no way.

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Speaker 1: It's not. It's not about does it hurt the case.

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Speaker 4: If let's say, if you get on the stand and

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Speaker 4: you point somebody out and you tell the truth, but

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Speaker 4: they disregard your testimony, nigga, you still a snitch that

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Speaker 4: don't have nothing to do with what happened to him.

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Speaker 4: You Gunner should be walking somewhere doing the walk of

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Speaker 4: shame somewhere sitting off making gospel rap something.

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Speaker 3: But didn't everybody in that case do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't have the video.

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Speaker 3: They had plenty of videos.

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Speaker 4: Remember, Remember the Gunner video was different because the nigga

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Speaker 4: snuck to get it. That would have never they had video.

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Speaker 4: I didn't see them. No, I seen the one specifically

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Speaker 4: right here. But the thing is, I don't know none

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Speaker 4: of the rest of them people. And I hope the

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Speaker 4: rest of them people ain't just walking around Atlanta if

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Speaker 4: they told on that. Man, if they they ain't walking

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Speaker 4: around Atlanta like, oh you know, hey, I'm back in

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Speaker 4: the streets stugging.

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Speaker 3: So what if thug comes out of thug said he

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Speaker 3: didn't tell.

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Speaker 1: On you, I don't give a fuck.

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Speaker 4: If Jesus comes down himself and say that is telling,

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Speaker 4: I'm wise enough and smart enough to know exactly what

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Speaker 4: telling is.

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Speaker 3: That's telling that. But gun of music still jamming.

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Speaker 1: I'm not listen, man up.

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Speaker 4: If you give a rat a microphone on the New

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Speaker 4: York streets, he might make some dope records.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not knocking it.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying he don't even have shame, like nigga make

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Speaker 4: gospel rap.

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Speaker 5: Well, let me ask you a question. So does that

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Speaker 2: Should not do songs with him or support him because

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Speaker 2: of who he claims to be and who he is.

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Speaker 1: Again, so I think a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of though I'm confused.

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Speaker 4: Crip first, that was the first problem. That was my

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Speaker 4: first and he was like, yeah, it's crip. He was

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Speaker 4: like neighborhood. But now it's like that look crazy.

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Speaker 1: But I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's a I think for most rappers

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Speaker 4: they trying to change their life, so they may not

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Speaker 4: maintain the same ethics. I mean they So everybody got

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Speaker 4: to make their own decision.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't. I wouldn't piss

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Speaker 1: on him if he was on fire.

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Speaker 3: Damn. I like Gunner, but I ain't in the street.

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Speaker 1: So and it's not the same.

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Speaker 3: Well, and most people that listen to hip hop aren't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not mad at them. I'm not telling the.

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Speaker 4: Two shows a lot of show in New York. Yes,

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Speaker 4: but why would the average everyday person care about.

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Speaker 3: Morals street street morals.

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Speaker 4: Not even street morals. This is something if you was

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Speaker 4: at right now, if we had a job and we

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Speaker 4: we at this job and the motherfucker came and stole

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Speaker 4: something and then somebody told their stuff. You'll be mad

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Speaker 4: at they snitching ass too. This is not what even

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Speaker 4: no matter what they stole. If something like, if you

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Speaker 4: took something and somebody told on you, you're gonna look

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Speaker 4: at that person crazy.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not. I shouldn't have stolen from that person.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 4: That set that don't change that this person particularly like

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Speaker 4: because I.

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Speaker 6: Stole, I know I did something wrong. I can't be

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Speaker 6: mad at the person for pointing out that I did

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Speaker 1: I did something wrong. Of course you can't if y'all

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Speaker 1: did it together.

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Speaker 3: But that's different.

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Speaker 1: That's why you can't.

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Speaker 3: Say that now. But that's different.

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Speaker 6: If we stole something together and then he went and

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Speaker 6: told on me like he didn't do it, that's a

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Speaker 6: different way.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened. And that's what snitching is all about.

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Speaker 4: Snitching really simply put, man, it's getting out of control.

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Speaker 4: It's when a criminal tells on a crime to avoid

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Speaker 4: accountability for their own crime. There is a lot of

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Speaker 4: other shit we could talk about. We could start breaking

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Speaker 4: down to all the nuances of street but really snitching.

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Speaker 4: Don't have nothing to do with like thug in or

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Speaker 4: blah blah blah. It's about accountability. Street life in general

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Speaker 4: is more about accountability and masculinity than everything. Being responsible,

445
00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,960
Speaker 4: saying what you mean, meaning what you say, standing by

446
00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,960
Speaker 4: what you said. It's accountability. It's not this ignorant kind

447
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,000
Speaker 4: of concept. It's primitive at times, but it's not ignorant.

448
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,119
Speaker 4: It's all about accountability.

449
00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:53,639
Speaker 3: So okay.

450
00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,920
Speaker 6: So with that said, me and you commit a crime together,

451
00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,560
Speaker 6: I'm sitting in myself. I have a revelation all now

452
00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,400
Speaker 6: on a whole myself accountable. So I decided to say, hey, glasses,

453
00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:10,320
Speaker 6: I'm telling on both of us.

454
00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,000
Speaker 3: But I did for both of us.

455
00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,560
Speaker 2: No no or or Charlamagne Is talked about it before.

456
00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,520
Speaker 2: He was driving in the car with his homies. He

457
00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,960
Speaker 2: got pulled over when of his homies had something illegal.

458
00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,000
Speaker 3: They had cocaine on them.

459
00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,920
Speaker 2: Charlomagne didn't know it was in the car, no idea,

460
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,679
Speaker 2: Charlomage tells, and I.

461
00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,159
Speaker 3: With Wendy Williams, No I didn't tell. I'm in the

462
00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:27,720
Speaker 3: back seat of.

463
00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,520
Speaker 6: The car and said you better tell all this exactly

464
00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,119
Speaker 6: he gave. He handed over his license and registration, and

465
00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,520
Speaker 6: inside the lights of registration he had three grams of cocaine.

466
00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,040
Speaker 3: I didn't know.

467
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,600
Speaker 6: So I'm talking ship to the police, really cracking jokes, whatever, whatever, please,

468
00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:41,439
Speaker 6: I put your hand behind you back.

469
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:42,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shit, what I didn't said? That went

470
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,320
Speaker 3: too far? We find cocaine. I'm like cocaine? Who had cocaine?

471
00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,399
Speaker 6: And he was The cop was like, whose is it?

472
00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,959
Speaker 6: I said, it's not mine. So let's use the process

473
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,000
Speaker 6: of elimination. It's one of these two individuals.

474
00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:54,639
Speaker 3: Okay.

475
00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 4: I mean, look, was y'all doing lines nor goal line?

476
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,400
Speaker 4: Would y'all go to do lines at night?

477
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,680
Speaker 3: I know hadaine?

478
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,600
Speaker 1: Okay, so listen. So right, so look, if.

479
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,720
Speaker 4: You not thugging or if you're not in any street life,

480
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 4: this is this is just simple street life, then it

481
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,439
Speaker 4: don't have nothing to do with you. And really your

482
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,240
Speaker 4: partner should be like, this is mine.

483
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,040
Speaker 6: Absolutely right. So wait until we got to the jail

484
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:20,880
Speaker 6: to do it, which is too late.

485
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,880
Speaker 5: Then he thought about it on the way.

486
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happened. Charla was like, either you gonna

487
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,159
Speaker 2: tell ing Lama, tell him. That's why what I have accountability.

488
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, but but if me and my homeboys.

489
00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 4: Let's say, if I'm with Joey, Right, if I'm with

490
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 4: Joey west Side and I know he not thugging, and

491
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 4: I got a gun, it's gonna be my gun. I'm

492
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 4: not gonna let him get in trouble for my gun.

493
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 4: But that's just being a man. That's all street life

494
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,199
Speaker 4: is about in general, even whether you're a criminal or not.

495
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,679
Speaker 4: It's just about being a man and standing up for

496
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 4: all of the right things.

497
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 3: You don't never get tired of being in the screeg No, why.

498
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not being anywhere right, Like my my

499
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 4: conduct is consistent with the upbringing.

500
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 1: Right. Why would I change my moral code for what?

501
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 4: Like I walk in the breakfast club or if I

502
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 4: walk anyway, what's the point of what? Am I changing

503
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 4: my moral cold too? Like the only next thing is

504
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 4: like religion, Like whe where else would I go? Like

505
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to be a regular person. Motherfuckers is

506
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 4: the scum of the fucking earth. I mean, like, you

507
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 4: don't stand by nothing. You know, people mistreat each other,

508
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 4: they don't they save mean ship to each other. You

509
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 4: could be driving, motherfucker, be like, shut up and call

510
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,160
Speaker 4: you crazy. The tow truck man that was in uber

511
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 4: call a nigga a bitch, like you know what I mean?

512
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,199
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to.

513
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 6: So you're telling me that a man that calls somebody

514
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 6: a woman a bitch don't have no morals.

515
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you call no a man, he called another

516
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 1: man a bitch.

517
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 3: If you call a woman a bitch.

518
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 4: I don't know that called a man a bitch. So

519
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 4: it was a man hitting the you turn and you

520
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 4: know how New York motherfuckerspl and shit. So it was

521
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 4: a man in a carriage and here a you turn

522
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 4: in front of the tow truck and the motherfucker's like yeah,

523
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 4: you know you bitch ass motherfucker and you know your

524
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 4: your your your driver don't know how to drive. And

525
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,439
Speaker 4: it's like see that, Like where come from? You call

526
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 4: a man another man a bitch, you better be ready

527
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 4: to fight. And I think in regular life, if you

528
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 4: hit the motherfucker for calling them a bitch, they'd be like, oh,

529
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 4: you know, they'll call the police.

530
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: Like I didn't put my hands on you.

531
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 3: But what about calling a woman a bitch?

532
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 6: Because that woman is somebody's sister, somebody's wife, somebody's daughters.

533
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 3: What if that man want to fight you because you

534
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 3: called the woman a bitch.

535
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 1: That's the point. You gotta take the fed right you squabble, Okay,

536
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: so it's all.

537
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 2: Aboutbody want to squabble though, Like so, so you call

538
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: that man a bitch, right now, that man comes and

539
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 2: it's snuff you. You call police and he gets arrested,

540
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 2: and now you press charges. There's no morals, That's what

541
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

542
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: Why is that no morals?

543
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: You can't me a bitch? And then when I react

544
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: to you called them a bitch upunt you in the face.

545
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: He puts me in the face you started.

546
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: Yes, but you people want action.

547
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 6: I agree with that, but I mean I still that's

548
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 6: still reserve to right to call you agree with you?

549
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: Why would you?

550
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 4: And see That's what I'm saying with them in that middle,

551
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 4: Like so, like religious people, morally, the goal is to

552
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 4: be here.

553
00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: The streets is here.

554
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 4: Regular people don't really have no moral they don't have

555
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 4: no true sense of accountability.

556
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 6: I agree with what NB just said, not because of

557
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 6: the street shit. And I agree with what you're saying,

558
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 6: but not because it's scree just because I like to

559
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 6: see people have to deal with the consequences.

560
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 3: Of their action.

561
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: That's what the streets.

562
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 6: If you punch me in the face, you gotta deal

563
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 6: with the consequences of that action.

564
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 3: But that's regardless of what it is. If I call

565
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,719
Speaker 3: you a bitch, I gotta deal with that.

566
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 6: Sure, if you punch me in the face, now you

567
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 6: gotta deal with whatever that comes. Great, and it might

568
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 6: come with me calling nine one one.

569
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: But nowadays you have to know that if Charlemagne or

570
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 2: somebody's calling you a bitch, it's usually a setup, right,

571
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: because they want to set you up to punch you

572
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: in the face, and then what that They're gonnarest you.

573
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 5: They're gonna miswork for nine months, they're gonna see you.

574
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 3: True. I'm just hoping you're not doing that. I'm hoping

575
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: you don't do that.

576
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 6: I hope I can get That's the thing, right everybody,

577
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 6: I hope they can do some shit and hope nobody

578
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 6: not Accountabiley.

579
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 4: So so when you ask me about do I it's

580
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 4: not being in the streets is not like a location, right,

581
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 4: It's a It's a conduct. It's the way you act.

582
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 4: It's the way you really is rooted in masculinity and accountability.

583
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 4: It's being responsible. I can make him you.

584
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: Can be a man and you can't and have accountability.

585
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: I'll be in the street.

586
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: No.

587
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but when you say being in the streets that's

588
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 4: where you get the sense of accountability from. Obviously, I'm

589
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 4: not selling sharm on one hundred and seventeenth Street no more. Right,

590
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 4: but the conduct still remains the same. I didn't assimilate

591
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 4: it into mainstream. I didn't become successful and changed my

592
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 4: life and then start okay, well, I'm gonna still enjoy

593
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 4: Gunner's music even though he don't have no shame and

594
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 4: he told on that man like that. Don't change my conduct,

595
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 4: my cold, my moral, my behavior, the moral compass doesn't change.

596
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 6: You got a song on the new album called Kanye

597
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 6: should have Never married that bitch.

598
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 3: Jesus talk to about that record. What do you mean

599
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: it's that bade?

600
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: Is that really bad? Yes?

601
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 3: That's bad? Why you call it? This? The mother of

602
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,719
Speaker 3: a child a business?

603
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: Now, if Kanye comes to swings on you that what

604
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: happens from then that's fair.

605
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: We can line it up.

606
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 4: It's a fair faith like if he wanted to faith

607
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 4: he called me like glass, I need that.

608
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: If he snuffs you, knock you down, he worth close

609
00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: to billion.

610
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 4: I'm not soon first off from get up and dust

611
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 4: cuts off or he finna win.

612
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 1: Either way, we're fin the fight.

613
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 4: But the idea of the song was turning the hole

614
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 4: into a housewife. I just feel like in today's time

615
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 4: his glasses, that's not that bad? Is that really that

616
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 4: that we didn't got that far?

617
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just don't.

618
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see the need to call her

619
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: that not what's the bitch or ho?

620
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: Both? What both classes?

621
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: That's that man's wife, my ex wife.

622
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 6: Crazy see snooping them back in the day. It wasn't

623
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 6: right when they did it, but they never put a

624
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 6: name to Why wasn't it right? They never put a

625
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 6: name to it, and they didn't label like there was

626
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 6: like there was certain views that you come on ge style.

627
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying, just you can't put a label.

628
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 1: So you can't call a whole hole.

629
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe a generalization, but you can't say that person

630
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 6: right there as a whole.

631
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: Why not if.

632
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 6: They're a whole, But if they not, they are anymore.

633
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 6: But we got messed up at it is we started

634
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 6: referring to all.

635
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: Women as correct. But we all all knew all women

636
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: wasn't we didn't.

637
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 3: We didn't say it enough.

638
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 4: No, No, we knew it, even if nobody else knew it.

639
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 4: We knew all women wasn't holes. But what's wrong with.

640
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: A girl if she's a hole? To call her a

641
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: whole anymore? Though?

642
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 5: But she's a mom and the housewife?

643
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: Now right? A business woman?

644
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you could have said Kanye should have

645
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: married that business woman.

646
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 4: If you get arrested for a feeling and you go

647
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 4: to prison, you get out of jail when you fill

648
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 4: out the application when they ask you are you're a feeling?

649
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 4: Why can't you say I'm not a feeling anymore?

650
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: I got parton? What if I got partoned?

651
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: Okay, well who partner? Jimmy? The PaperWorks in our chair?

652
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: The paperwork could not change it? Oh my god, no.

653
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 4: So listen, I didn't No good look, and I'm so serious.

654
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 4: This is serious part. So we wrote the song right,

655
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 4: don't You can't turn the hole into our sall? That's

656
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 4: why I did the song right. And I just felt

657
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 4: like we're in a weird time where people are really trying.

658
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: To wife worse. This is a big movement going on.

659
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 4: It's a lot of really unstreet and unaccountable things right,

660
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 4: and it's like people are not accountable, so they're just

661
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 4: doing anything. And so when we wrote the song, we

662
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 4: wasn't it wasn't even it's not specifically about them. Nobody

663
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 4: was even thinking about Kanye or Kim when we wrote

664
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 4: the music. We just wrote the music to be honest.

665
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 4: I'm just listening to the song and I'm like, damn,

666
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 4: you know. The idea of the song was called that

667
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 4: bitch right, that bitch belonged to the streets. But I

668
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 4: was thinking about it. We're such a time where nobody

669
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 4: is actually like, it's hard for people to put a

670
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 4: face to an idea because it's so far out of

671
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 4: their wheelhouses every day, and I was like, damn, who

672
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 4: going through something that proves and validates this idea? And

673
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 4: Kanye just look at this situation.

674
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 6: Well, I guess everybody has a pass, is what I

675
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 6: would say, men and women.

676
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 4: But we don't get to say we not that no more.

677
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 4: But if you go to prison and you get two

678
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 4: felonies for the rest of your life, you're a fella.

679
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 6: That's like saying nobody can evolve. So Malcolm X wasn't

680
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 6: always Malcolm Little. I mean, Malcolm Little did stay mackam

681
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 6: Little he became Malcolm X.

682
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: Totally agree.

683
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: So you can you can definitely evolve and change.

684
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: Do we think Kim evolved, Hell yeah, she didn't a

685
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 4: hundred percent from ten years ago she did.

686
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 2: How do we don't know, you know, because we don't

687
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: know the situation that might have been. Kanye might have

688
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: been a problem in that relationship. She might have wanted

689
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: to be a housewife.

690
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 4: The problem was when you first went into that relationship

691
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: with that lady. It's a lot of stuff going on

692
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 4: with women. Man, you gotta be really careful when you

693
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: just jump out there. And obviously he wasn't listening to

694
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 4: the Doctor Dre's album like he should have been. He

695
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 4: would have knew that any of them Snoop Dogg's album.

696
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 4: You can't turn the hole into a housewives. These are

697
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 4: simple things, simple truths.

698
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of holes that have been

699
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: turned into housewives. I actually think.

700
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 6: Sometimes in a lot of ways, holes make the best

701
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 6: housewives because because just like people who've been in the street,

702
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 6: they didn't been there, done that, and they don't want

703
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 6: to do that no more.

704
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: So they evolve and.

705
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 6: Now they you would never know there's somebody married to

706
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 6: a woman right now and had no idea glasses and

707
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 6: them crips was running trains on her and watched in

708
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 6: the nineties.

709
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: Right now.

710
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 4: No, I don't know that. No, but it's again. The

711
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 4: concept is just really simple. And obviously you see it

712
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 4: went down in flames. It went down in flames. It's

713
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: not again, it's not. I don't want to sound like

714
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: I'm being harsh to Kim.

715
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 6: Or even but I don't know whose fault it were,

716
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 6: but it could have been Kanye's fault that it went down.

717
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 3: Sure, I think that's what you were trying to think.

718
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 4: I'm not blaming her, just a bad idea, Like you

719
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 4: got to get somebody that's a little bit more plausible

720
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 4: for the job, and I don't think that that was

721
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 4: the correct plausible person for the job. Her life was

722
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 4: shaved to be something completely different. But again, sometimes like

723
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: ever since I've been talking about the song, it's been

724
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 4: more or less about Kim Kardashian, my like or dislike

725
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: for Kim Kardashian.

726
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: That's just not true. I love Kim Kardashian.

727
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: I mean, as much as you could love somebody you

728
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 4: don't know that you don't have to really have a

729
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 4: lot of respect for she was you know, yeah.

730
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: No, because.

731
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 6: Hasn't got a podcast called No Ceilings, y'all enjoy.

732
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: Y's the point because everybody would be thinking, I'm crazy.

733
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: She was sucking J Dick on tape.

734
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: Jesus, that matters. I just mean somebody had a camera.

735
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: No, she actually recorded, then they sold the video.

736
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: That's a hustle. That's a hustle. Ge.

737
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at her. I totally understand.

738
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 4: I have the utmost respect for prostitutes, porn stars and

739
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: anybody else that's hustling.

740
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: But let's actually call it what it is.

741
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: Most men that get with their women, they not getting

742
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: a virgin. G. Come on, it's just the truth.

743
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 6: They're not getting a virgin, whether it's on tape or

744
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 6: not on tape.

745
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: Him is far from a virgin man, Like we gotta.

746
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: Go that far, but virgin every woman had the path.

747
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: On tape, Jesus. So we just start with not sucking

748
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: dig ona tape.

749
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: In this day and age is kind of hard.

750
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 6: See everybody pulling their phones out.

751
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: This new generation got it rough. G.

752
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: This is why I stay streaked, I see, because you

753
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 4: have to have some moral compass and cold of behavior.

754
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: Because look where we're at, like you like.

755
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: Oh, now the only pool of women is who's sucking

756
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 4: dig gonna tape?

757
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: Now, I know, look at this one.

758
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: So this is bout because I have to look at

759
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 4: her face, right, because I don't want her to think

760
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 4: like I'm like some kind of hee man woman had her.

761
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 4: But it's like, it's too late if we start with

762
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 4: sucking dig on tape.

763
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: I get what you're saying.

764
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: This woman has not sucked nobody dick on tape.

765
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: And we've seen the video this lady, So I don't

766
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 4: want her to think I'm just saying. I don't want

767
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: her to think that I'm saying, we got at least

768
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 4: start with not sucking dig on take.

769
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: Okay, can we not wife who sucking dig.

770
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: On test shouldn't be disqualified?

771
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 6: Yes, it's yes, Okay, So what if what if the

772
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 6: woman is given and doesn't know that he's being recorded.

773
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: The exception is not the rule. She knew she was

774
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: being recorded, she was performing, and then they sold the

775
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 4: tape for money. They like Kanye's kids, His daughter gonna

776
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 4: have to see that, his daughter gonna see this enemy

777
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: like this man, this man calling my mother out of

778
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: her name and it's not that's not what it is.

779
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: I mean the young lady and young man, that's not

780
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 4: what it is. They do this thing and don't think

781
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: for tomorrow.

782
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: Back to the streets. They teach you accountability.

783
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: Everything you do. You remember, this shit is going to

784
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 4: matter everybody else in regular life. Sucking dick ona tape,

785
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: You will not think how that's gonna bother you because

786
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: they don't fucking got no morals. Who the fuck would

787
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 4: suck dick on tape and think like later on cry

788
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 4: like I sucked dig on tape and everybody saw it.

789
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: What about people? Who's secret?

790
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 6: He just said.

791
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: The exception is some people out there that we've seen.

792
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to bring those names up, but.

793
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can't sell it right if you sell it,

794
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 4: soe like, this is way past it, sucking dig onna tape, Like, yes,

795
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: most women probably most women probably have gave flatio right,

796
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: that's the way right, So most women have right, but

797
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 4: they also not doing on tape correct. And then if

798
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 4: they did it on tape, they're not selling it for

799
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 4: money because they.

800
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 6: Mean they're making the best out of a bad situation,

801
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 6: Beyonce said turned lemited in the Lemonade g what was

802
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 6: the bad situation?

803
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: She got caught sucking dick on tape? Who got caught

804
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: Kim and or whatever it was. But then they ended

805
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: up selling it, right, Yeah, what's wrong with that?

806
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: Nothing?

807
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 4: But told him, why is it wrong when I'm saying

808
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 4: you sucking dick on tape?

809
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: No, it's not wrong with saying I don't think they

810
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: got caught.

811
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 5: They solely. That's how everybody saw it.

812
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 3: Yes, and I thought they got leaked and then they

813
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: didn't know they solely solely. Anyway, let's move on.

814
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question.

815
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: So, I see I didn't hear the album yet, but

816
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: I see Notorious b I G on the album that

817
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: a new verse old verse.

818
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 5: No, that's a hooks Okay, I didn't hear it.

819
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 4: It's caused the log. It's dope, the loco. It's a

820
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 4: really dope song. It's really dope. At one time, I

821
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: felt like Big Daddy came rapping at that bpm.

822
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: You can you can relate of cane shit in one

823
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: twere problems and me thinking I'm up.

824
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 4: There like chub rock, and I closed with chub rock.

825
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 4: That was the feel of the song. So I felt

826
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: like such a hip hop Vet doing that, gotcha.

827
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you about something you sit in

828
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 6: to the group chat the other day. You said that

829
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 6: mcavelly album and Snoop's doggy style dog Father dog Father.

830
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Snoops dog Father are the same album. Every

831
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 6: time I come here, we be and some ship. So

832
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 6: let's go right to it.

833
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: It's not even front.

834
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: If Tupac doesn't pass away, mcavelly would be considered what

835
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 4: dog Father is because you would have been coming off

836
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 4: such high production, high value production, high value everything. What

837
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: happens to somebody really shaped the market. What happened to

838
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 4: Tupac shaped the marketing and how we received the next album,

839
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

840
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: Snoop didn't have the benefit of that. He just dre

841
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: skipped on.

842
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 4: He just DJ Pool, Me and DJ Pool even talked

843
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 4: about it, and he was talking about how much he

844
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: had to how how hard it was working on that

845
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 4: album much they didn't get to do certain things, and

846
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: then Snoop got the utmost criticism for it. But imagine

847
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 4: if mcavelly follows all lies on me and Tupac is

848
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 4: alive and it doesn't have how do you want it?

849
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 4: It doesn't have the success of California lovet two number

850
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 4: one songs. It don't have the Johnny j production because

851
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 4: him and POC had fell out at that point. It

852
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 4: doesn't have Doctor Dre because now Doctor Dre is gone

853
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 4: and you dissing him, and now we could listen to

854
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 4: your dishes and judge whether or not we think it's okay.

855
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 4: So I think they're almost like the same style of

856
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 4: album as far as the way they will follow such huge,

857
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 4: huge releases.

858
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 6: So you're not talking about sonically because sonically I just

859
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 6: think Mcavelly's just a way better album, and I think

860
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 6: that album goes.

861
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: Whether or not it's my no I mean, bomb first,

862
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: hell Married.

863
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: It's my favorite POC album.

864
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 4: But again, following the album, I don't think we hear

865
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: it the same way. I think we when somebody passes away,

866
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: we take their music differently.

867
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: We start to accept certain things.

868
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 4: It has an ominous feel, things start to happen, and

869
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: I think in park situation, him passing away made us

870
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 4: feel a lot different about what we heard.

871
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: Wasn't that the point of that album?

872
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 6: Or whether't he coming out through the alias mcavelly, which

873
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 6: it made even crazy.

874
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: So you said, I'm confused, You're saying the Dog for

875
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: the album. Yeah, it's on the same as the mcavelli album.

876
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 4: Yes, I said, the only difference is Tupac passed away,

877
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 4: so set a marketing landscape for how we receive it.

878
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 6: I disagree with that now mcavell album and you said

879
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 6: it's it's it's my favorite.

880
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, But it's part of him passing

881
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 4: away because of the ominous feel of the records.

882
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 5: What records is you like on album Dog?

883
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: So?

884
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: I mean I like Pool's production.

885
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pool did a lot of it, so I pretty

886
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 4: much liked about three or four five songs.

887
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: But again I like every song.

888
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 4: On mcavelly because it just maybe if he's alive and

889
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 4: he dis and nods, now it's different him this and.

890
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: Nos in depth, it's like he did when he was alive. No,

891
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean on the records.

892
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like if he's dissing jay Z, if he

893
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 4: dissing notas if he's dissing doctor Dre and he's breathing air.

894
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 4: Maybe again, right now we just talking about somebody looking

895
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: at me crazy.

896
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 3: You think they shouldn't have put the ABU ount is

897
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 3: what you're saying.

898
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: No, I think they did the right thing by putting

899
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: the album out.

900
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I think they're the same type of

901
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 4: follow up to those albums, Doggy Style and dog Father.

902
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 4: I think dog Father got a lot of unwarned criticism

903
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 4: because of where everything was at at that time. I

904
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 4: think DJ Pool being there, it didn't get enough credit

905
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 4: because it wasn't Doctor Dre Doctor Dre leaving and I

906
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 4: think Pop passed away, so it created a different space

907
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: for us to hear the music.

908
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think to Live and Die in La, and

909
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 6: you correct me if I'm wrong. This is because I'm

910
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 6: on the outside looking and to me, that is the

911
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 6: when I think LA, I think the Living Die in

912
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 6: La to mean that is the quintessential West.

913
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: Coast record in Los Angeles.

914
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 6: If I landed at the airport, I would want to

915
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 6: hear the Living diel a plan you know what?

916
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: That's over California love.

917
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 4: Because I can understand that from somebody that's from out

918
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 4: of town. In town probably not, but out of town.

919
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 4: I mean to us, like, we'll probably thinking about shook

920
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 4: Ones or cream like that. But I'm sure New York

921
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 4: is a completely different vibeh.

922
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: Ones to cream.

923
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: But most people would think Empire State Jay Z and

924
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: Alicia Keys. Most people think that when they come to

925
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: New York the States, but US hip hopheads, I would

926
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: think of p s A.

927
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 5: Jay Z, I would think of shook ones. I would

928
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 5: think of you know, records like that.

929
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: That's a great point because I don't think nobody in

930
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 4: New York would think of Empire State of Mind as

931
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: the record that you would think that's something.

932
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: But then we was crazy because were healing chilling cousin.

933
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 4: There was a horse and carriage planning, and it was like, oh,

934
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: this feels like New York.

935
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: But I guess I never thought about it.

936
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 5: Because that's a touristy type of song.

937
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: But here we were gonna play PSA allow me to

938
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: reintroduce myself ones like That's it's hard to say that's

939
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 2: a touristy song when a post child for New York

940
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: made it to be a New York anthem. The Empire

941
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 2: State of Mind is doing exactly what jay Z wrote it. Yeah,

942
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: for sporting events and stuff, but I think he made

943
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 2: it for everybody to see New York from a wide perspective,

944
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: correct versus get even though raw New.

945
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: York vibes, whereas like like I said cream. When I

946
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 4: think of New York, I think of Cream, or I

947
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: think of I guess because I've been here too, so

948
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 4: you see certain parts of certain worlds you're like, oh,

949
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: it's rougher, and in part said of mind is so clean,

950
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: but it does fit for us. I guess inside.

951
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: Probably something like I love it. I love it.

952
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 4: East Siders Okay, Okay, that's a that's a super inside

953
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: of l A song.

954
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: I guess that would be like our shook ones, you

955
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

956
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 4: I love it the way the hommies come up to

957
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 4: Snoop Dogg group, the East Siders, him and Trady and Goldie. Uh.

958
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: Inside LA sugar Free, I'd rather give you my bitch.

959
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: That's a super Los Angeles. You come into Los Angeles.

960
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 4: I don't think nobody outside of Los Angeles really know

961
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 4: about it, But inside of Los Angeles, that ship sets

962
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: everything off.

963
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: It's pretty fucking dough.

964
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 6: When we talk about LA, is it anything that can

965
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 6: be done to make the streets safe? Because when you

966
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 6: think about you know, losing Great Nifty Hustle, losing.

967
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 3: P and b Rock their way to make the streets safer.

968
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: I guess in particular for rappers.

969
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: Pop smoke, I mean, just people poor. I don't know.

970
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: So many of these situations is just crazy. Like when

971
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 4: we even we talked about what happened.

972
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: With with A.

973
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 4: P and B Rock, Like, you've been to La enough,

974
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 4: You've been to La enough. I don't think either one

975
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: of y'all been over there. I don't think either y'all

976
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 4: been to Roscos. I'm sure multiple times neither one of

977
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 4: y'all been to that rocks recently. But I wasn't stopping

978
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 4: over there though, right, So that's like the locals Roscos,

979
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: and it's like a place that look really poor.

980
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: That's on the east side. This is my side of town.

981
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: This is the Roscos I go to.

982
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 4: I've been going there my whole life, and I don't

983
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 4: think that's the kind of place where you jump out,

984
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: so don't. I don't know if there's something that could

985
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: be done except just making smarter decisions, Like I wouldn't

986
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 4: go to no ghetto with what looks like two three

987
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars worth of jeweliy on. I just think

988
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: that's a bad idea. I agree, I mean, why would

989
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 4: you go around poor people You're supposed to look like

990
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 4: an opportunity you're supposed to look like you can give

991
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 4: an opportunity, not look like an opportunity. And I think

992
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 4: a lot of times rappers it's a weird space. I

993
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 4: think hip hop takes a lot of blame for a

994
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 4: lot of shit, But I think the one thing that

995
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 4: they have really elevated is floshing on poor people. Hip

996
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 4: hop used to be the voice of poor people. Now

997
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 4: it's about people telling other people how poor they is.

998
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, And take your woman because

999
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 6: you're too poor to have us.

1000
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 4: Broke nigga, You know, broke nigga. Me and broke niggas

1001
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 4: don't get along. It's just like God, damn all your

1002
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 4: partners is broke and your friends don't get along. So again,

1003
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: I think hip hop is and I think rappers are

1004
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 4: kind of flossing on poor people.

1005
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: Impoort.

1006
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: They gotta remember poor people following them, People who don't

1007
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 4: got a bunch of stuff. If you look on my page,

1008
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: you ain't seeing shit I got.

1009
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1010
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 4: Because I know people that support me, they don't have

1011
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: what I have, So why would I go to any

1012
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 4: ghetto with just all this jery on?

1013
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: I just think that's a bad idea.

1014
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: So I don't think what needs to be done is

1015
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 4: rappers got to kind of realize maybe the goal is

1016
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: not to floss on poor people. I mean I think

1017
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 4: they I think rappers got to make their own adjustments.

1018
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 4: I don't think it's nothing that could be done amongst

1019
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 4: I think we blame poor people for enough shit.

1020
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 6: So so what about somebody like nip who who was

1021
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 6: providing opportunity?

1022
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, that situation is really nuanced, Like we you know,

1023
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 4: we talked about that.

1024
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: It's a really weird situation.

1025
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 4: Between two people from you know, the same community in

1026
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: so many words, and it's like it's a situation that

1027
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: went bad, you know what I mean. And it's it's

1028
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 4: so much stuff that we don't know about it, even

1029
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 4: me being from right down the street and this being

1030
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: my friend, I don't so many things that I still

1031
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 4: am learning every day about the dynamics of it. Death

1032
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 4: just come with life, and it ain't no getting away

1033
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 4: and the solution ain't always getting away from poor people.

1034
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: That's not going to cause you to die. It's just

1035
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 4: you know, we can die. That's the point of it.

1036
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: We can die, you know what I mean. And I

1037
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: think it's more important that we stay around poor people

1038
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 4: and providing opportunities and help when people get, you know,

1039
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 4: the better their life. That's the only solution. More opportunities

1040
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 4: for livable wages for poor people. I was thinking about

1041
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: that too. Hip hop is the America's last hope. Explain

1042
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: you mean just culturally what we represent that, Like I'm

1043
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 4: saying accountability, making.

1044
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: Sure a square is still a square.

1045
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 4: Like the fact that right now I'm telling y'all, you know,

1046
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 4: this lady is probably not the kind of lady you

1047
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 4: should marry, because in the everyday world is just losing

1048
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: morals every day. It's just more things are becoming acceptable

1049
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 4: for no reason, just for some false sense of inclusion,

1050
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 4: and it's just not real.

1051
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 6: But hip hop, and I love hip hop, so don't

1052
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 6: take this the wrong way. But hip hop can normalize

1053
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 6: a lot of bullshit too. We have normalized a lot

1054
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 6: of bullshit.

1055
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 4: But have we really normalized a lot of bullshit that

1056
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: wasn't normal in our communities already?

1057
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: Yes?

1058
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 6: Like what I think that we've celebrated a lot of

1059
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 6: Like we celebrated the drug culture, Like we've glorified the

1060
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 6: gang culture. I think a lot of times people did

1061
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 6: those things out of survival, especially especially hustling. So we

1062
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 6: turned it turned into a thing people did out of

1063
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 6: survival that people never spoke about to coming cool, making

1064
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 6: records about it, like everybody want to be a dope

1065
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 6: boy or trap boy?

1066
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 4: Now, I mean, is that really the ghetto? I mean,

1067
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 4: what year the scarface come out? I don't know what

1068
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 4: the seventy something seems like it got worse though, No,

1069
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 4: it just became something appearing to us like we we

1070
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 4: take the burden. We take the blame as far as

1071
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 4: the ghetto, street urban culture, hip hop takes the blame

1072
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 4: for everything America's been celebrating this shit.

1073
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 3: Absolutely, But if we know better, shouldn't we do better?

1074
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 6: Like, if we know these things only lead a lot

1075
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 6: of our people to jail, a lot of our people dead,

1076
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 6: shouldn't we come up with something else?

1077
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: Well?

1078
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 4: I think what we as far as hip hop, we

1079
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 4: also do do the best job for the people at

1080
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 4: the lowest parts of.

1081
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: Our community needed.

1082
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 4: Every while, I do agree that there is some responsibility,

1083
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 4: it's more about the elite. It's more about the top.

1084
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 4: It ain't really about the bottom. The bottom is going

1085
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 4: to be the bottom because it's you know, motherfuckers don't know,

1086
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 4: they ignorant, they don't have the information. So it's about

1087
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 4: us at the top, right, it's about the jay z.

1088
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 4: It's about envious about the people at the top, right

1089
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 4: by poor people. And you can't ask poor people to

1090
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 4: make better decisions out of you poor everything you do

1091
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 4: is by necessity.

1092
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: So I agree with that.

1093
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 6: But to your to what we were talking about earlier, Man,

1094
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 6: when you go down to that bottom, that's when you

1095
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 6: get real morals.

1096
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: That's when you get real principles.

1097
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 6: People that may not have a dollar, but they still

1098
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 6: got an integrity about themselves. Sometimes people at the top

1099
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 6: with all that money don't have that integrity.

1100
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 4: Well, they got the same integrity because the same person

1101
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 4: gonna sell drugs, right, the wealthiest person and big pharma

1102
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 4: and the poorest person gonna sell dope, same mentality. So

1103
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 4: I think it's about the job we do by other

1104
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 4: poor people within hip hop. That's the only place we

1105
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 4: fell in that in my mind, we don't.

1106
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: Do a really ghetto.

1107
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 4: People that succeed don't do the best job by people

1108
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 4: that's not succeeding. It's always kind of like, oh, you

1109
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: figure it out, Like that's why we started the New West.

1110
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 4: At that time, it was like it's way too much

1111
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: y'all figured out versus hey man, this is how you

1112
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 4: do it. You in the door, now let me show

1113
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 4: you how.

1114
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: To do it.

1115
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: It was you, it was Kendrick, it was Nip who was.

1116
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 4: Up Mike stro So that that hip hop has to

1117
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: do a much better job of that, Like the the

1118
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 4: people that are successful gotta come grab people that ain't successful.

1119
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: That's the whole premise. That's why it works so well.

1120
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 4: So I think, no, I don't blame us for I

1121
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 4: don't think we normalized drug dealing. I think drug drug

1122
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: dealing is normal in our ghettos.

1123
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: Definitely.

1124
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we supposed to.

1125
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 5: We made it cool.

1126
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: Well it's not. It was cool because it was cool

1127
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 1: because it was success in the community.

1128
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: That I think they but a lot of people talked

1129
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 2: about an act like they did. Like even we talked

1130
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: about this morning on Yesterdays show. We talked about Michael

1131
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: Irving and his son, and Mike Rveran was like, my

1132
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: son is not that street yet, but he was. His

1133
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: son was acting rapping like a street dude because he

1134
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: probably sees it working. But he was like Mike Veran

1135
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: was like, my son grew up in the gated community.

1136
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: It was there's no street in him.

1137
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: Well, we had this conversation a many times before.

1138
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 4: I think that's the problem when everybody's trying to jump

1139
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 4: on the way that poor people have to kind of create.

1140
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: A way out for themselves.

1141
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 4: If you're a middle class person and you on the

1142
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 4: next track to be Michael Irvan's son and maybe go

1143
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 4: coach a football team, why the fuck is you doing?

1144
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: Rap? I mean, you just want But that's another thing.

1145
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 6: Glass alone told me I'm not a man if I'm

1146
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 6: not in the street.

1147
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 4: No glasses Malone told you the streets made him a man.

1148
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 4: Michael Irvin made cousin man. You know what I mean,

1149
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 4: Like Nigga, your middle your wealthy existence was the platform.

1150
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 6: That that proves you don't have to be street or

1151
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 6: necessarily religious.

1152
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 3: Then still morals in a person, Well.

1153
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 4: I don't know, because Mike erv was saying he don't

1154
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 4: got morals right now. He's like, man, I don't know.

1155
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: What's lack of morals. That's just like you pretending to

1156
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: be something you're not.

1157
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 2: That's a lack of morals.

1158
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: Ain't committing the crime, you just rapping about it.

1159
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: That should be a crime. We're just just lying and

1160
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: ship like you just Street and thug and up man

1161
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: some motherfucking interview.

1162
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 5: That's the truth, lied.

1163
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of rappers say they done killed

1164
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: this person, shot this person, but a lot of it

1165
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: is not true.

1166
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: I hope not.

1167
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 4: I hope not. I host everybody. I was just telling

1168
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: them the other day we was talking about Drake was

1169
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 4: talking about your boy, right, so he was like, the.

1170
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: Whole shit was Joe.

1171
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 4: And my whole point with Joe was like, how do

1172
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 4: you talk about Drake's mute?

1173
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: This is what Drake do. If you're not a.

1174
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 4: Fan of Drake music, you're not a fan of the

1175
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 4: current wave of whatever's going on.

1176
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 3: Oh I saw you do that. I saw I don't

1177
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: know whose podcast was you when I saw that.

1178
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 4: Back on, I'm telling them and my nigga was like, yeah,

1179
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 4: well you know what about him talking Street. I'm like, well,

1180
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 4: Drake talked like he was making threats in the chat,

1181
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't want to find out. I

1182
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: don't want to be the nigga to find out that

1183
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 4: he has spent some money. So my whole attitude is like,

1184
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 4: do I thank the man out there thugging?

1185
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: Probably not. You know what, if I might even fluce,

1186
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: you could do some dumb ass shit.

1187
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 4: So if he trick his shit off playing around with

1188
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 4: the low level, then let's see all he.

1189
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 6: Got people around him that could be about that life.

1190
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,959
Speaker 6: Who tied of people playing with their money?

1191
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, they ain't talking. They wanted you to get some money.

1192
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, but they got to.

1193
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 3: I thought what you said was true though.

1194
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 6: It was just like, yo, if you to not like

1195
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 6: this Drake album is kind of hypocritical because it's the.

1196
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: Same music that he's That's what I say. It's the

1197
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: same music.

1198
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: Whatever the current he's the best at like Madonna. That's enough.

1199
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 4: Everybody got mad when I kept comparing with Madonna, And

1200
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 4: it's like Madonna used to do the same thing with music.

1201
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 4: She would take whatever the current wave of music and

1202
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 4: make a Madonna's song. Drake does the same thing right now.

1203
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 4: So if you you can't really dislike Drake's music, it's

1204
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: like you can't really dislike McDonald's. You can talk about

1205
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 4: it's unhealthy. You could make a lot of ridiculous arguments

1206
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 4: like I'm not in the mood for it. I want better,

1207
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 4: But come on, man, like Drake is like Drake, she

1208
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: is like a happy meal. It's kind of hard to

1209
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 4: kind of really hate on you just kind of be like,

1210
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 4: I ain't needing that shit today.

1211
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: But you can say, like I think some people say

1212
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: I want more rapping. Some people can say I want

1213
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 2: more of this type of song. But like you said,

1214
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 2: you can't hate this, it's true.

1215
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 4: But who would even want more from Drake? Like it's

1216
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 4: like want more from McDonald's. I want McDonald's to sell stakes.

1217
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 4: That's just not what Drake does. Drake has done the

1218
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 4: same consistent thing this whole time, whatever the current way,

1219
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 4: whatever's going on. He makes that and he's gonna make

1220
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 4: it the best it could be made at a mask consumption.

1221
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: That's my point. So I think it makes sense, makes sense.

1222
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 6: Cancer these Nuts is out right now from my guy

1223
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 6: glasses Malone.

1224
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: That's right.

1225
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 6: Make sure you subscribe to the No Ceilings podcast on

1226
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 6: the Black Second Podcast network.

1227
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 4: That's another thing. Like my motherfucking podcast is really good.

1228
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm just pretty good at this.

1229
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 4: And don't don't go you can stream my ship. Go

1230
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 4: to the cryptstore dot com and buy it.

1231
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: Okay, the crypt store, the crypt Store, the crypt But

1232
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: I got blood on these they can shop with the

1233
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: making sure. I used to sell them. I used to

1234
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: sell I used to sell drugs.

1235
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 4: I would sell them drugs. They would make money off

1236
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 4: my drugs so they could buy my music.

1237
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 6: Cripstore dot com, Cryptstore dot com, Man, go get a

1238
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 6: cancer these nuts from my guy.

1239
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 4: Shout out to my boy Brasco, man the cryptstore dot

1240
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 4: com gave me my idea too for the crypt store.

1241
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 4: Who my boy Brasco, one of my partners from out

1242
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 4: the Myphis. He was like, man, you gotta be more

1243
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 4: a cript. I was like, man, you're right, I got

1244
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 4: to be a crypt more out loud? What yeah?

1245
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: What?

1246
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 4: No for real because it matters back ten and everybody

1247
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 4: will hear me, like hey, you cripping too arm.

1248
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, just just enough.

1249
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's Glass alone, It's the Breakfast Club.

1250
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: Good morning with that ass up in the morning. The

1251
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club