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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, You're about to listen to one of two

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Speaker 1: year end episodes featuring our host Renee Stubbs as well

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Speaker 1: as cultural attache Andrea Pekovic. The two of them go

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Speaker 3: Don't miss it season.

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Speaker 2: If they get an inflamed woof, they have to be killed.

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Speaker 3: Okay, one, two, one, two, Okay, it is I guess

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Speaker 3: chapter two of the roundup of the year of the

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Speaker 3: best top ten players on that WTA two and ATP

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Speaker 3: two last week we did it where we talked about

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Speaker 3: the women, or I didn't even know if we're going

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Speaker 3: to say last week, We'll just say last pod was

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Speaker 3: talking about the women, wrapping up the women, how happy

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Speaker 3: we were about everything that happened last year on the

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Speaker 3: all this year, still on the WTA Tour, but I

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Speaker 3: am joined once again by the one and only, great, fantastic, amazing, beautiful,

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Speaker 3: greatest eyebrows of all time, my favorite German queen of

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Speaker 3: the writing, best author as a former professional tennis player.

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Speaker 2: That's very specific.

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Speaker 3: Andrea.

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Speaker 2: It's like you're the best writer who used to be

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Speaker 2: a tennis player on the women's side. From Damstadt from

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Speaker 2: thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Listen. The thing is, it's funny is that I wish

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Speaker 3: I could write like you, But then again, you write

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the I always say that my boyfriend Jesse,

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Speaker 2: he thinks I'm Hemingway, but he doesn't read German, so

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Speaker 2: I could literally tell him whatever I want.

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Speaker 3: I have read many of your articles in the Racket magazine,

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Speaker 3: and so I know that you're a very good writer.

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Speaker 2: So thank you very much. My favorite compliment that you

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Speaker 2: gave me was my eyebrows people seem to neglect the

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Speaker 2: form and shape of my eyebrows. They are the only

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Speaker 2: redeeming quality about myself. So thank you for shouting that out.

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Speaker 2: And thank you, oh, thank you Renne. Now enough about me,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about you.

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Speaker 3: You have some very much by saying and you are

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Speaker 3: you know whatever about me. But it's fine this.

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Speaker 2: That in later. But what I'm very excited about you

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Speaker 2: have some great news for everyone. We mentioned it on

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Speaker 2: the last part, but we couldn't give one hundred percent certainty,

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Speaker 3: Yes, Caitlin and I sadly you will not be in

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Speaker 3: town because you're going back to the deutsch Land, back

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Speaker 3: to the mother country for Christmas. But on December seventeenth,

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Speaker 3: the All right, let's get to the men's rappers.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the men's and just as a little

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Speaker 2: That's important to stress out because nobody is coming because

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm taking over. It's not too uh just

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Speaker 2: I enjoy hearing your thoughts on tennis. And that's maybe

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Speaker 2: great season with some amazing rivalries we talked about on

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Speaker 2: Novak Djokovic played some incredible matches, but let's get straight

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Speaker 2: into it. Number one in the world, best player of

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Speaker 3: And the finals of Wimble and almost.

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Speaker 2: One that Wimbledon finals as well, so he was very

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Speaker 2: of a season? He played much less than he did

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, I forgot that right, didn't get listed just

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Speaker 2: here for a villain era Novak Djokovic. That's all I

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Speaker 2: I'm going to own it. I'm going to yell at

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Speaker 2: That's all I ever wanted from him. So I'm so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have said that forever.

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Speaker 2: I have said that forever ever how long, Like for

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Speaker 3: Like, You're like I He's you know, all of these

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Speaker 3: and all that sort. It's just not in your nature

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Speaker 3: And it's like you have been wanting him to just

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh my god, it's true. Look what

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Speaker 3: It was the tournament that he won when he basically

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Speaker 2: Paris, and then he I was like, what is he doing?

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Speaker 3: and that's what happens. And he's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, he's unbelievable. And I will give you another theory.

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Speaker 2: We talked about the theories I set up while going

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Speaker 2: I feel like Roger Federer was driven by the love

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Speaker 2: Yes, but he you know, he always loved the sport.

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Speaker 2: You can feel that he just you know, enjoys a

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Speaker 2: That's why he hated playing Nova because he takes the

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Speaker 2: This is Igo Ciantek and Rafael Nadal. They are driven

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Speaker 2: why I identify with Novak so much. Is driven by revenge.

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Speaker 2: He's like, you don't believe in me, Oh, I'm going

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Speaker 2: I think Serena and Novak have something very similar in

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Speaker 2: They were always ostracized. They were always like, oh, these

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Speaker 3: Like Serena had it more than Venus.

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Speaker 2: Because she was also the smaller sister.

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Speaker 3: Venus had all the spotlight on her and Serena was

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Speaker 3: think that chip was that was born due to the

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Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of like Maggie Malava had a

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Speaker 2: You talked about it, you coach Carolina Pliskova, who has

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Speaker 2: a some set, more talented sister, the lefty Christina. But

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Speaker 2: Carolina turned out to be the better one because she said,

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Speaker 2: everyone believed more in Christina. They thought she was going

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Speaker 3: Was lefty, and absolutely Carolina had a check on.

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Speaker 2: I think that is Novak's drive, and I think he

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Speaker 3: even money odds.

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Speaker 2: Well, but Novak's biggest achievement was not only his incredible

438
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Speaker 2: successes on the court, but also being part of rivalries

439
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Speaker 2: which we love. And he was part of one particular

440
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 2: amazing rivalry between him and Carlos Alcaraz. That Cincinnati match.

441
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know the Wimbledon final, but also the

442
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati match. There were just a few matches, even the

443
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Speaker 2: Paris final, like Carlos. Carlos faltered physically against Novak and mentally,

444
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Speaker 2: but those first two sets they play was incredible. Can

445
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Speaker 2: you talk a little bit on how you view their rivalry?

446
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 2: And then also move into Carlos Alcaraz' season A strange season,

447
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 2: like with huge peaks with like a next goat debate

448
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 2: and then a letter yeah, and then a letter in

449
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 2: the end of the season the injury, so there was

450
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: it was really everything in one bottle. He won six titles,

451
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Speaker 2: he won Wimbledon. What did you make of his season?

452
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, this kid is so special, so

453
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 3: great for the game. Smiling out there. I mean, he

454
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 3: just the joy he has on the tennis square is

455
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 3: so great to see. But the joy is almost what

456
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 3: hurts him in a lot of ways because he runs

457
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 3: for too much. It's like he's jumping up and down.

458
00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 3: He's like, it's like.

459
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 2: Just losing too much energy or what do you mean.

460
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 3: I think he expends a lot of energy. I think

461
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 3: that's what hurt him in Paris where he started cramping.

462
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Speaker 3: The anxiety, the you know, he's.

463
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Speaker 2: Just so up all the time, and he's so hyper, so.

464
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Speaker 3: Hyper, and he's going to learn to temper that a

465
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Speaker 3: little bit. And I think he did at Wimbledon. There's

466
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Speaker 3: no question about that. He managed to temper down the personality.

467
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Speaker 2: I think. Just sorry to interrupt you, but that when

468
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Speaker 2: he won the semi finals against Medvedev, I was like, oh,

469
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Speaker 2: I think he really wants to win against Novak because

470
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Speaker 2: he didn't celebrate, you know how he was kind of

471
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Speaker 2: you said that he showed the first and he waved

472
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Speaker 2: into the crowd, but then he kind of just packed

473
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Speaker 2: his back and left and he I.

474
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Speaker 3: Tell you what, if anyone out there that does bed

475
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 3: on tennis wants a little sort of thing to look at,

476
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 3: is when people go absolutely bonkers when they win a

477
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 3: match in the semis or a quarter and they like

478
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Speaker 3: it's almost like that was their tournament right where they're going,

479
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 3: you know, they're going over to hug their coach and

480
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 3: they're lying on the ground and they're like crying, And

481
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, do you want to win the next

482
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Speaker 3: match because that win should mean happiness, but not you

483
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 3: cannot You should not ever go over the top like

484
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Speaker 3: with that sort of stuff. And I think when you

485
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 3: see a player do that, that's done it before or

486
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 3: done really well, and he'd want to say before he

487
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Speaker 3: knows what it takes to maintain and control the ups

488
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Speaker 3: and the downs. And my coach used to say to

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Speaker 3: me one time, and again, I'm not comparing myself to

490
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Speaker 3: any of these guys, but you know when I won

491
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Speaker 3: my when I made my first semi final in doubles

492
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Speaker 3: at Wimbledon, my coach said, to be okay, grubs, not

493
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Speaker 3: too high, not too low, got another match ahead of you.

494
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Speaker 3: And he had been in that situation with many other

495
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Speaker 3: players before, and so that was a little wis wisdom

496
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Speaker 3: that he passed to me, is that, look, yeah, it's

497
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Speaker 3: great to be in the semis, but do you want

498
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Speaker 3: to win the tournament? And it said, you know, those

499
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Speaker 3: are little things like when Sam Stosa made her first

500
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Speaker 3: semi final of the French Open and she was so

501
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Speaker 3: excited she wanted to go thank her friends and family

502
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Speaker 3: for coming. And I was like, no, no, you're going

503
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 3: to go ride the bike. You're going to stick to

504
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: your routines and then you can go thank them later.

505
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Speaker 3: But it's like when you haven't been there and it's

506
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 3: almost like your tournament's over. So watch for a player

507
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: when they look like they mean business, it's because they

508
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: mean business, you know. So there's not not always some

509
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Speaker 3: people can get excited, I.

510
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Speaker 2: Can go off. There are other players on the other

511
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: side of the car the same thing.

512
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Speaker 3: Losing her mind after winning a quarter or a semi.

513
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Speaker 3: She's just like, yeah, it does her twelve off the

514
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Speaker 3: court because she's like, all she wants to do is

515
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Speaker 3: when the tournament. Now, when she wins a tournament, she's

516
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Speaker 3: on the ground and crying and all that sort of stuff.

517
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Speaker 3: But you know, that's a good mark for someone to

518
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Speaker 3: look at to see if a player gets so excited

519
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Speaker 3: to win a final a semi final that you're like, oh,

520
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Speaker 3: they think the tournament's over, that's enough.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Carlos Alcaraz's game, right. We know he

522
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Speaker 2: has it all, but we've seen him being rushed on

523
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Speaker 2: that forehand side a bit, especially with players like Novak

524
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Speaker 2: who can take that backhand down the line really quickly,

525
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Speaker 2: really early. He has that, but the Poto also has

526
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Speaker 2: which makes it so. But the straight arm, right, so

527
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: when somebody gets you there quickly and deep and flat

528
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Speaker 2: into that side, you can be a little late. What

529
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Speaker 2: do you see for him? He looks like a very

530
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Speaker 2: complete player. So what do you see for him to

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Speaker 2: keep improving because the last part of the season we

532
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Speaker 2: saw it after the US Open, he was struggling with

533
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Speaker 2: his game. Not yes, mentally is of course, tennis is

534
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: a holistic experience of a sport. Everything feeds into each other,

535
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Speaker 2: the emotional side, the spiritual side, the mental side, and

536
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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 3: If you don't know anything exactly.

538
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Speaker 2: You don't know that. But also game wise, there were

539
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Speaker 2: a few players who had figured him out. Right, we

540
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: saw media dev at the US Open semifinals who really

541
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Speaker 2: play the more aggressive style of game because he knew

542
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Speaker 2: he had to. What do you make of his game?

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Speaker 2: What do you think he can still improve and maybe

544
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Speaker 2: adapt because it seems so complete.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he touched upon it already. The forehand,

546
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Speaker 3: I think he needs to stay in a little bit.

547
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Speaker 3: I'd like to see him flatten it out sometimes as well.

548
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: We know he has the power. Just look, there are

549
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: times where he goes for a shot that's probably not on.

550
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 3: It's still the youth. I think in his game, if

551
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: you look at the way he plays now, there are

552
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 3: so many things that he can get a little bit

553
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Speaker 3: better at. I think shot selection at times can be better,

554
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 3: but that comes with age, that comes with experience. I

555
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: think his serve can get better. I think he can

556
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Speaker 3: improve hitting it flatter. Look, he's not a big guy,

557
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Speaker 3: so but look Novak. Look at the way Novak played

558
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Speaker 3: back when he was the same age and his forehand

559
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: was dodgy, serve was kind of shitty, you know, wasn't

560
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: quite sure if it was going to go in half

561
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Speaker 3: the time. You can't say that with al Karez. All

562
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 3: of those things are much better at that same age.

563
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Speaker 3: And then look where Novak is now. You know, the

564
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Speaker 3: greatest player of all time with literally no weaknesses. I mean,

565
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: the guy doesn't miss. So I think Alcaraz will get

566
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Speaker 3: to that point because he'll he'll realize that he doesn't

567
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: need to go for that ball. He can stay in

568
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Speaker 3: a rally a little bit longer. I think he can

569
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Speaker 3: flatten the forehand out a little bit more, and I

570
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 3: think overall he just just it's just comes down to

571
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Speaker 3: shot selection. And I think the forehand, like Novak's like

572
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Speaker 3: a lot of players. I mean, look, how you know

573
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 3: adaptive Nadal got on a hard court or a fast court.

574
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 3: He's stepped in a little bit, took taking balls earlier,

575
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: servant volleying sometimes, which Alcoraz does. I mean his for

576
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 3: a movement is fantastic. So I think I think it's

577
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: just honestly, I think it's just shot selection with him

578
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: and maturity and knowing when to pull the trigger and

579
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Speaker 3: when not to. And I think overall, just that forehand

580
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: he'll get there. I have no My biggest thing with

581
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 3: him is the injuries, right, That's what I'm concerned about,

582
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 3: because they're that groin injuries, like knee like all that

583
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: sort of lower body, and he's so athletic and throws

584
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 3: himself around the court. So I think, if anything, he

585
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: just needs to learn to tape it. Down on that

586
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 3: a little bit, get the training right, get the shot

587
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 3: selection right, and we're going to see him around long time.

588
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: Well that's interesting that you say that, because I knew

589
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: a doctor who was like the most famous and most

590
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Speaker 2: important horse doctor for race horses, and he said something

591
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Speaker 2: to me and it made me just think of Carl's

592
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Speaker 2: Akharaz what you just said. He said to me that

593
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: race horses, Yes, they are the maybe most athletic natural

594
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: being that we have in the world. But they are

595
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 2: so fickle. Because they are so athletic, if they get

596
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: an inflamed hoof, right, they have to be killed. They

597
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: have to kill that. I mean, it's it's true. They

598
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: just have to put them down because they can't recover

599
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: from that in a way because they are so.

600
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Speaker 3: No, they can't recover from that too, because they need

601
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 3: all their legs. Yes, true, there's a vet listening to this, going,

602
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: well that's not necessarily well.

603
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: That's how I remember it. Maybe he was just doing something.

604
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Speaker 3: They can't No, they can't, they can't. They can't just

605
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: put a horse in a cast and say hey, don't

606
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: walk on this. Horses can't understand you. So there's lots

607
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: of reasons. But but yeah, he's like a thoroughbred that

608
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: needs to calm the fuck down. He needs to go

609
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 3: into the pastures for a little bit. So and I

610
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: also think he needs to be a little bit more

611
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: selected with his schedule. And you know, when you're young,

612
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: you just think, oh, play, play, play. But I think

613
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: he needs to get a little bit better with his schedule,

614
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: which will allow him not to get injured a little

615
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: bit more. I too, but he just physically puts everything

616
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: into it. But our guy who's now number three in

617
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: the world, yes.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about him, Daniel Medvedev. Five titles this year.

619
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Speaker 2: Very interesting season. He had that stretch right before India

620
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: Wells where he just seemed not.

621
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Speaker 3: Able to tell where he was. It was unbelievable out

622
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: of the top draw, and he.

623
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Speaker 2: Lost early at the Australian Open, which was strange for him.

624
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Speaker 2: He lost to a good player quarter. I think he

625
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: lost to Sebastian Korda, which is I mean, he was

626
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: playing incredible at the beginning of the year. Sebastian got

627
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: injured unfortunate that threw him off a little bit. But

628
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: so it's not like he had a terrible loss. But

629
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Speaker 2: I think people expect him on the hard court to

630
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: at least make the semis and finals. So what did

631
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: you make of his season?

632
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yeah, shame that he didn't do better

633
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: at the Slams. I think he'd be a little disappointed

634
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: with that, There's no question. But I think he sort

635
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: of towards the end of the year we started to

636
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: see why he's so good. He's just always there, you

637
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and he can beat anyone on

638
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: any given day. Talk about embracing the the fuck you

639
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: did the crowd and things like that. I mean, his

640
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: flip off to the Parisian crowd was Hilarioushere. He's like,

641
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 3: what I was just looking at my blisters on my hand.

642
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: You're like, no, dude, we saw you flip the crowd off.

643
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: He just he entertains me. He loses his mind from

644
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: time to time. I mean his stuff at the ATV

645
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 3: finals when he threw his racket and then he's like,

646
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: oh my god. But he's entertaining and he's fun to watch.

647
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: Talk about a different personality off the court too. He's

648
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: always so nice off the court and always so slow.

649
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: But I just love Danil. I love his game is

650
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: so different and unique, and he's so aware of the

651
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: fact that he feels really blessed to be where he is,

652
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: that he struggled early on in his career, and he's like, look,

653
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: I know that I went through a lot early on,

654
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: and I didn't think I could be this good, and

655
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: now look where I am, and so I just love him.

656
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: But you know, he played twenty two tournaments this year.

657
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 3: That's a lot.

658
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: That's a lot.

659
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean al karaz and Djokovic played eighteen.

660
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely a lot. What I what I love

661
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: with Medre devis two things. I think. First of all

662
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 2: is the thing that he really stands for. Something that

663
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: I love about tennis, that you can have your unique technique,

664
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: unique style. It's like writers, they have their own type

665
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: of pros, their own style painter. You know, when you

666
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: see a side Twambly, you know it's Side Twombly. When

667
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: you see a Jackson Pollock, you know it's Jackson Pollock and.

668
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: John Mitchell. Because I like to pick the women clearly

669
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: go for the men, no surprise.

670
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: But and I think that's what I love about tennis,

671
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: that you can We talked about three players now and

672
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: all of them have their unique kind of thing going on.

673
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: And all of it is successful in its own way.

674
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: So that's what I really like about him. And one thing,

675
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: one match I want to point out. I mentioned it

676
00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: before semi finals US opened against Carlos al Karaz. He

677
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: did do an adjustment to his game. That's just sometimes

678
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: I feel like he relies too much on his defense

679
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: and on being twenty feet behind the base sign. And

680
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: that was the first time I saw him be like, no, dude,

681
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: you cannot do that against Carlos al Karaz. You will

682
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: be destroyed. You need to be on the base line,

683
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: you need to return earlier, and you need to make

684
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: an adjustment. And he did and it was successful for him,

685
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: and I hope he takes a lot of confidence from

686
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: that that he can do it and that he doesn't

687
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: rely too much on his great court coverage and just

688
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: great eye for the game. Right. But he sometimes against

689
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: these players like a Janick Sinner, like a Carlos al Karaz,

690
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: they take a Djokovic, Yes, you need to step up

691
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: a bit.

692
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: And that's what he did. Let's talk about the next guy,

693
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: Jannick Sinner. He took it away from me. Finally beat

694
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: Medvedev because he recognized he had to be more aggressive.

695
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: He had to take away sort of, you know, his

696
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: ability to not miss a ball from the back of

697
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: the court, and he's he's like, well, I'm not gonna

698
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: win the long ball rally, but I'm gonna win the

699
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: rally because I'm more aggressive and coming into the net

700
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: and being a little bit because Medvedev. The one area

701
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: that he could improve on is his volleys. Give me

702
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: a call, because he is a little bit like he's

703
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: like a deer in headlights or a fish out of water.

704
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: At the net. He's just like, what am I doing here?

705
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: But the fuck? He like runs back half the time.

706
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, stay there, You're fine. He's like, no,

707
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: I'm not. But that's an area that he could get

708
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: better at. I think to win against the Alkorazes and

709
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: the Novak's going forward, I think he needs to improve

710
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: his because he doesn't miss from the back of the court.

711
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: Imagine if he's hitting that flat, no high bouncing approach

712
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 3: shot and actually learning how to hit a volley and

713
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 3: you can do that. I think Novak's improved that immensely

714
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: since working with Boris Becker, with Ivanovitch, Ivanovitch, definitely Ivanovich,

715
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: I think because those guys used to come into the

716
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: net a lot. They have transformed his netplay and I

717
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: think they've made Novak a better player at the net

718
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: of understanding, because it's not about just volleying. Well, it's

719
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: understanding when to come in, what to cover when you

720
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: come in. That's something that Darren Kay he was absolutely

721
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 3: helping Annix Cinner with. You know, what do you approach

722
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: on what to look for when you approach a certain way,

723
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 3: Like when you're a net Russia like I was, There's

724
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: only so many angles and you can pick them and

725
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: figure them out. You can learn how to move at

726
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: the net to draw a certain ball at the net,

727
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: for example, you just don't run in and like you know,

728
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: it's like split step. It's like, yeah, split step, but

729
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: also sell one side, open up another. There's lots of

730
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 3: ways to get someone to get better at the net,

731
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: and I think that's where he could improve a little bit.

732
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 3: Calmy so anyway, but let's.

733
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: Let's go Yannick Center for typeless this year and just

734
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: notably we talked about it in the last part, that

735
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: great great Davis Cup win MVP. The only thing he

736
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: did fall off a bit are the Grand Slams, the

737
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: majors renee. Can this Davis Cup win because it is

738
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: a different kind of pressure. He did not only well

739
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: under this pressure, he did tremendously well under that pressure.

740
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: Can that help him in the coming I know you

741
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: will do a into the twenty twenty four season, but

742
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: what do you think it will do to him having

743
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: won that Davis Cup and just a great end of

744
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: the season.

745
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: Now, well, hopefully it doesn't do what it did to

746
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 3: Faa last year because he finished the year unbelievable, won

747
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: the Davis Cup and then stunk it up this year.

748
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened to Felix. I mean, I

749
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: have a feeling I know what happened to Felix. But

750
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 3: with Yannick, he's a different This is a different cat,

751
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: future world number one. There's no question. I think he

752
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: will win a Grand Slam next year. If he doesn't,

753
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: it'll definitely be in the next two years. He's so good,

754
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: he has no weaknesses. He's improved his netplay. His forehand

755
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: is a lot more reliable, He's taken away a bit

756
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 3: of the waggle with the backswing. His servers improved immensely.

757
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: Another thing that Darren has been working on is that,

758
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: you know, his service motion getting it more reliable. He's

759
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: he moves believeable.

760
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: Who's got stronger?

761
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: Dude? For six foot what is he for? Sixty four?

762
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: He's quite tall, but he has I think he just

763
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 2: has these really long legs, which is hard to run

764
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 2: like that.

765
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: Six two looks taller than six to two.

766
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: He has become stronger, he has become more powerful.

767
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 3: Dude. He was a world like not a world champion,

768
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: but an Italian champion skier. And when you're a good skier,

769
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: your legs are fucking strong. Okay, if you ever go

770
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: and see a gym workout of a skier, most of

771
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: their stuff is, you know, they're they're piling on weights

772
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: on there to do clean and jerks and squats and

773
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: you know, pushing the fucking legs thingy, and they're doing

774
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 3: these bouncing things up and down and down with the legs.

775
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: All they're doing is crushing their legs every day. And

776
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: so this guy grew up doing that. He doesn't look

777
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 3: like it. His legs are like skinny in the mind,

778
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: but well maybe not. But listen, this kid can move.

779
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: He stays down on his shots, and I think the

780
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 3: one thing that he did not do well. In the

781
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: finals of the ATP final against Novak Is you could

782
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: tell he was really nervous, but he was coming out

783
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: of his shots. So if you go and replay his matches,

784
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 3: the shots he was missing, he wasn't missing earlier in

785
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 3: the tournament because you're staying in with his legs. Now.

786
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: Was he tired? Probably? Was it physical for him? Probably?

787
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: Was he nervous? Absolutely, And when you get nervous, what

788
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: do you do. You come out of your shots with

789
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 3: your legs because you start trying to use your hands

790
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: because you're nervous. So I think the thing that he

791
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: did better in the Davis Cup match against Novaka is

792
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 3: said he was loading the legs like crazy because he

793
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: was rested more right, he played a light singles and doubles,

794
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: but he had days off in between, whereas ATP he

795
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: was playing every day almost every day, but it was

796
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: so intense. So I just think he is such a

797
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: good player. He's improved every aspect of his game. His

798
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: composure on court is amazing. I mean when he won

799
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 3: the match too the Davis Cup, he is just like.

800
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: Well we heard it, Renee, you called him future number

801
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 2: one in the world and possible twenty twenty four Grand

802
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: Slam champion jan Nick Sinner this year great twin in Toronto.

803
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: We should have mentioned maybe his first one thousand title.

804
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: Let's move on to the Jesspergoula after ATP Tour. Yes,

805
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 2: I like to call him poor Andre Rublev, the quarter

806
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: final king in the Grand Sand. He's so solid, he's

807
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: so good, He's won two titles this year. He's just

808
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: missing that extra little It's like he's the best cupcake

809
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: in the world, but they forgot to put the frosting on,

810
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, the sprinkles. Yes, because because

811
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: he has he has frosting. Yes, he has frosting, just

812
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: the sprinkles.

813
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: Especially when you think about his hair, or do you.

814
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: Think it's just that the other guys are that much

815
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: better and has nothing to do with him? Because I

816
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: do love watching him play. I do think he's absolutely tremendous.

817
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: If you ever have the chance to watch him in practice,

818
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: please do that because I've learned so much from Andrea Rubeleff.

819
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: The way he accelerates just before he hits the ball,

820
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 2: especially on the forehand, it's a beauty to watch. And

821
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: I just I really love him. I love his personality.

822
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: I love his game too, there's just those sprinkles missing

823
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: is what are the sprinkles?

824
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. They upset the year though, two

825
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: players inside the top ten with red hair, red curly hair.

826
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: I think the problem with ruby Lev is the mentality.

827
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 3: And he's very one dimensional. So when he's good, he's

828
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: so good, and he's ripping balls all over the place

829
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 3: and he's clean whacking people off the court. The problem

830
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: is he hits the ball too flat all the time.

831
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: Now you can say, well, Medvedev does too. Medvedev doesn't miss.

832
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 3: I mean Medvedev literally doesn't miss, and he's a lot

833
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: more cautious than rublav Is. And I think that Medvedev

834
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 3: has an underrated serve. But I also think that Medvedev

835
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 3: is just methodical. He just picks you apart waits, which

836
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: is why he always beats Rubelev because he hits the

837
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 3: ball similar to Rubylev just doesn't miss, whereas Rublev gives

838
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: you a little bit of miss. But he's crazy, I mean,

839
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: he's nuts. He loses a point, he could be up

840
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: a set and it could be three all. On the

841
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: second he loses one point at like thirty all and

842
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 3: he fucking goes crazy, starts yelling at his people. It's like, mate,

843
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: listen and listen those that lived in glasshouses. I mean

844
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: know it's a little crazy on the court, but it's

845
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: like at some point you're like, that's hurting you. So

846
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 3: I think he got a lot better at it this year.

847
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: But I think that's where he needs to improve. And

848
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 3: he's a little bit too one dimensional. And so I

849
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: think against the Alcarazas and Janick Sinner's and Medvedevs and

850
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: Novaks is that they just wait for him to implode

851
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: or they sort of just figure him out that he's

852
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: going to make an error at some point, and so

853
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: that's what they take advantage of. Having said that, what

854
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: a great year. So I'm super happy. I love the guy.

855
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: I love watching him play. He's a lot of fun.

856
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: Please God, who's going to Okay, so give me your

857
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: guess who's going to make a semi final first, Pagola

858
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: or ruby Lev? Okay?

859
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: I think that, I say, okay, nice that I like both.

860
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: I think that ruby Lev. I just looked at his results.

861
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: He was also a bit unlucky in those quarters. He

862
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: tends to end up against Novak. I think he lost.

863
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: Twice Eithernvak or Medvedev.

864
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: Exactly, so that you know if he got somebody that

865
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 2: I mean, we we see it. There are people in

866
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: the court. He could have gotten a Ben Shelton, he

867
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: could have gotten a Tommy Paul. It's not like you

868
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 2: always need to play Novak or Carlos or in the quarters.

869
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 2: You can be a bit lucky. But but he hasn't

870
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: been lucky. So I think that I think his quality

871
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: of plays there, it's just I think the others that

872
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: we just talked about that's just a bit ahead of him.

873
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: I think he needs to actually agree with you. I

874
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: think he needs to open up angles more because he

875
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: tends to hit through the court a lot. So if

876
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: you have good movers who tend to make over and over, yeah,

877
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 2: because he's literally hitting the ball and he needs to

878
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: get to the net. I think in the in the

879
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: in the mens, you can't to beat the best of

880
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: the men and women you can get away with it.

881
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: But I think to beat the best on the ATP side,

882
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 2: you need to be able to finish at the net

883
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: because a Medvedev, even a Carlos Alcaras, they will just

884
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: run you down until you miss and you will not

885
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: maybe miss at six three three all, but you will

886
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: miss at five all And then it sits in your

887
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: head and it grows and pastors like a virus. And

888
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: you know what happens when we have viruses. Then we

889
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 2: get vaccines, and some people don't want to get the vaccine,

890
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: and then we're all in a in a mess. Then

891
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: we're all in the pickle and we don't want that.

892
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: Let's move on to a very strange season. Renata on

893
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 2: number six. Steph Sitapas Paula Badosa's boyfriend, Paula's boyfriend.

894
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: His year was better than host.

895
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paula unfortunately injured. Hopefully she can bounce back. Had

896
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: the stress fracture in a lower back, sofully she can

897
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 2: be healthy, and because I love watching her play. He

898
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: has one title this year and he has played the

899
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: final at the Australian Open, lost to Novak. There, what

900
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 2: did you make of his season? It was a strange one.

901
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: He played twenty four tournaments and replay played twenty five tournaments. Yeah,

902
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 3: sits a pass, He's just you know, Look, the bottom

903
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: line is great serve, great foehand back end is attackable.

904
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: So any time you play against these great players, in

905
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: the Me's finals, they're going to find a way to

906
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 3: beat you. Because they're going to play that backhand. You're

907
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: not going to be able to hurt them. So, just

908
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: like Maria Sakari, I don't know if it's a great thing,

909
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: but he's got to get his backhand better, and he's

910
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 3: got to get his slice backand better because his slice

911
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: back end is so shit, and I'm talking about on

912
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: the level it needs to be to do well, and

913
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: he needs a slice back and because it's going to

914
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: set up the forehand, so his slice back end is

915
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: so bad he comes out of it with his left leg.

916
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: I don't know why someone hasn't like helped him with

917
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: that shot. But the bottom line is he needs to

918
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: improve his slice back in because his topy is okay

919
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: when he has time, but when someone attacks it, he

920
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 3: needs to be able to play a better slice.

921
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: You mean to slow the game down in a way

922
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: so he can use his forehand again.

923
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: To slow it down, but to put it in a

924
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: position I eat down the line like Roger used to do.

925
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: You have a slice shift backhand down the line, and

926
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: so when someone runs over there, when the balls are

927
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: foot off the ground, it's really hard to go back

928
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: down the line so that his forehand bang, you know.

929
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: So he needs to improve that side of his game

930
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: and if he doesn't, he's going to be a good

931
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 3: player for the rest of his career. And he's never

932
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: going to win a Grand Slam. And I've said this

933
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: for I.

934
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: Don't even you don't think he's going to win a

935
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: grandam No, And.

936
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why, because I don't think he's going

937
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: to win a Grand Slam with his dad coaching him.

938
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 3: And I know he had that little run with Philippousa's

939
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: this year and whatever, but he needs to just literally

940
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 3: redo his entire team and tell his dad and mum

941
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 3: to stay home. And it's nothing to do with the

942
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 3: fact that I don't think his dad can coach or

943
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: is a good coach, But he's not your coach that

944
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 3: you're going to win a Grand Slam, because he's so volatile,

945
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 3: so toxic the relationship. Now off the court, they could

946
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: be best friends, but you know this, Petko, your dad

947
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: was a tennis coach. It's fucking too hard. If you

948
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 3: have a very volatile relationship on the tennis court, at

949
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: some point it becomes it's not a positive thing. Under

950
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 3: the serious duress and that's what semis and finals of

951
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: Grand Slams are.

952
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: Do you think Stefano has stagnated.

953
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I think he has stagnated, and I think a

954
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 3: lot of that has to do with the fact that

955
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 3: his dad is still his coach and he can't fight

956
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: just go away with somebody else to say, here, here

957
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: are your issues. Someone like a Darren Kay. He will

958
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: be like, I'm gonna break you on your slice. I'm

959
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: gonna help you with this, I'm gonna help you tactically,

960
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 3: and you'll be a better player because of that. But

961
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: his dad is He's hit the plateau with his dad.

962
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: That's how I feel. Anyway, let's move on from let's

963
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 3: move on.

964
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: I just want to shout out one thing that I

965
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: think he does, maybe with Carlos Alcaraz, the best in

966
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: the top ten, and I just wanted to shout it

967
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: out because we don't see it that much often anymore.

968
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: Hits his transfer when he gets a short ball, how

969
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: quickly he gets up to it and moves through it

970
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: and ends at the net very naturally is really a

971
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 2: beauty to watch and I love to watch him when

972
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: he's playing well. Whenever you drop a board ball short,

973
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 2: he's there, he takes it on the rise and he's

974
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: at the net, and he's always in the right place.

975
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: And we don't see that that much anymore so, and

976
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: I never knew how to do it. That's why I

977
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: think I just love to watch it and that way.

978
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: So I just wanted to shout out that thing that

979
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 2: I think he does maybe the best in the top ten.

980
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: Which is why his slices can help him because if

981
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: he slices really well, just like Roger, where he manipulate

982
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: the slice, hit it short, hit it deep, just like

983
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: Alcarez does from time to time, most of the time

984
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: they go to your forehand. After that they'll try and

985
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: go to his back end. But you know that. So

986
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: when you're a heavy forehand player like an ash party,

987
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: you know when they're going to go back to your

988
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: back end. You can step around, hit inside out for

989
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: hand bo points. Sober So, anyway, Renee, do we have

990
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 3: to talk about the numbers?

991
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: Okay? So number seven is Alexander Zverev. I think the

992
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 2: way I want to handle it, let's just stay stick

993
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: strictly with the tennis. Let's not talk about anything else,

994
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: because I think enough has been said about that. Alexander Zverev,

995
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: he has won two titles this year. He won in

996
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: Hamburg and his hometown. It has to be said he

997
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 2: had a tremendous comeback on the tennis court, because thinking

998
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: of the beginning of the year, he was nowhere near

999
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: his best.

1000
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: Had the tournaments he played, take a guess.

1001
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: I would say twenty eight.

1002
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: Close twenty seven. What the fuck?

1003
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: Well, he's coming back from injury, that's true. He always

1004
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 2: likes to play a lot anyways, But are you watching him?

1005
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: Can you still watch him? What do you make of

1006
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: his game? I was there. I'm a tenement ambassador at

1007
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: the Humburg tournament, so I watched his his tennis there

1008
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: and I think he's played the best I've ever seen

1009
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: him play there, especially in the final against Laslo Jerre.

1010
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: So I do think he's back to him his old self,

1011
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: maybe even better. He has a new fitness coach by

1012
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: his side, a Croatian guy who is really really good.

1013
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: He used to be with Milosh Raunich. I'm sorry I'm

1014
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: blanking on the name, but yeah, just give us your thoughts.

1015
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: That's just just let's try and stick to the tennis

1016
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: effects with with Zev and just give us your thoughts

1017
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: on his game. Do I have to you don't have

1018
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: to sentences.

1019
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: There's no question these tennis has improved like outrageously this year.

1020
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: He's coming back from that injury. There's no question he

1021
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 3: had to find his feet, no pun in his legs.

1022
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: But all I think, look, he's hitting the ball right

1023
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 3: and he's always going to be a threat. I serve

1024
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 3: he's not double folding twenty times a match anymore. So

1025
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: he's kind of curtailed that a little bit and I

1026
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 3: think that's helped him. But again, you know, it's just

1027
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 3: he will be a threat next year. There's no question

1028
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 3: at Grandsham play and.

1029
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 2: I actually think he can win Roland Garros at one point.

1030
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if next year, but I think that

1031
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: he will have a shot there.

1032
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: Well, he thought he could win it when he twisted

1033
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: his ankle against so well.

1034
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 2: He moves the best on clay for his size. He

1035
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: has a great serf and the weird forehand that he has,

1036
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: that spinny forehand that goes out into the angle. It's

1037
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: really good as comfortable on for to play on clay

1038
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 2: because it like sits up. It has a lot of rotation,

1039
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: but not a lot of power, and so you really

1040
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: have to generate and it's not easy to handle. And

1041
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: I've seen it over and over again on clay. The

1042
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: guys don't really know what to do it because it

1043
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: lands quite short in the court, but it goes out,

1044
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: so you don't have an angle to actually attack it

1045
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: because you're out of place. He moves well. If you

1046
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: go down the line. He has the best shot in

1047
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 2: the world. Is running backhand is insane.

1048
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 3: God, his backhand is so good.

1049
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: So I think that strange forehand that hurts him on

1050
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: the hard courts and can hurt him when he gets

1051
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: tight and it gets really short on clay is actually

1052
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: kind of a not a weapon. Let's not go that far.

1053
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: It's very weird to play.

1054
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: Coco's beforehand on clay because she can just hit that

1055
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: toppy down the line and then you go to her

1056
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 3: backhand just like swear, and then he just goes thanks.

1057
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: I have control of the point now. But look, you

1058
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: know all the stuff that's happening off the court, he's

1059
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: going to have to deal with that too. All right,

1060
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 3: Let's get to number eight hold g roon, Yeah, what

1061
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 3: do you make a strange here too? For him? He

1062
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: played twenty three tournaments in the year, which.

1063
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: The men are quite they like to play tournaments. What

1064
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: is up with that's good appearance fees?

1065
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: Clearly they do, but look, hold hold a run. I

1066
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 3: think what was good for him is that he had

1067
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: a struggle struggle town on the hard courts. He played

1068
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 3: pretty well at the Grand Slams quite well, especial for

1069
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 3: someone young.

1070
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: But I think the US Open where he lost first round,

1071
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: the famous wells put me on a court where nobody

1072
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: can watch. And he had won that match, that would

1073
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 2: have been cool. But losing that match is kind of awkward.

1074
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: When you tweet that out, can you tell us what happened?

1075
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. When I read I was like, oh, dude,

1076
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 3: he's going to lose this match because he's already like saying,

1077
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 3: how pisty has it been? I mean, I will say, but.

1078
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: Apart from that, he has had a good, uh very

1079
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: Grand Slam run, like a decent Grand Slam run.

1080
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 3: I will say this about that. When I did see

1081
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 3: that schedule, I did think it was kind of shitty

1082
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 3: as well. Yeah, we all know those courts there. Oh.

1083
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 2: I like that because I think that we always when players,

1084
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: not always, we sometimes when players can play voice their grievances,

1085
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: we tend to be like a high a privileged fuck,

1086
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: how can you have any complaints? But I like that

1087
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 2: you say when you looked at it, you also thought

1088
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: it was strange.

1089
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: No, I thought it was a slap in his face.

1090
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: I think here's four in the world. That's he was

1091
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 3: number four seed playing on court five. Like we know

1092
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: those courts. Courts are really hectic. There's a match going

1093
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: on next to you. There's a match going on next

1094
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 3: to you.

1095
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 2: There it's a row of four. So those who haven't

1096
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: been at the use open it's a row of four

1097
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: or three, Like.

1098
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 3: You don't even know if your court's the one getting

1099
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 3: called out.

1100
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. They are stacked next to each other.

1101
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: And I watched Isla's first match back after her injury.

1102
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 2: I let Tomjanovich's and she was playing in the middle,

1103
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 2: in the middle, and next to her was playing Jenny Brady,

1104
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: and I kept thinking they called balls out, which was

1105
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 2: under the court next door. So I do have to say,

1106
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: it's it's a well.

1107
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: And also, mate, it's like you there's no public out there.

1108
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, those courts get packed. Yes, they're small

1109
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: and they're all next to each other. It's a great

1110
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 3: place to go and see.

1111
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: If fans it's the coolest. If you sit up on

1112
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 2: the stands, you can watch three matches at the Sea.

1113
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: There is literally maybe a thousand, no not even five

1114
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 3: hundred people watching him play. Come on, he's a fourth

1115
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: player in the world. He's having a great year. Fucking

1116
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 3: come on. Put him on court seven. Put him on

1117
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: the court. You played your last match like that's a

1118
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 3: big stand at least like really caught five. Anyway, I

1119
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: appreciate you saying that. Actually that I think the best

1120
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: movie he made was getting rid of certain coaches and

1121
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 3: bringing on Patrick Moritaglu.

1122
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 2: I think, sorry, calm down, Okay.

1123
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: Sorry, I meant getting rid of Patrick Moritaglu and bringing

1124
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 3: on Boris Caitlin.

1125
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: Are you coming? Are you starting a comeback with Patrick

1126
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: morotogl andit that out?

1127
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 3: Okay? No, Boris Becker, I think that was a great

1128
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 3: move from him. Look, Boris has been in jail, he's

1129
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: been through some tough times. He's also a former great.

1130
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 2: All the Germans with the controversies.

1131
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up with that? What have you done lately?

1132
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 3: But you know the fact that look, Boris has achieved

1133
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 3: what he achieved at such a young age as well,

1134
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 3: so he's been He's sort of lived this life that

1135
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 3: Rene's living, but even more so because if anyone saw

1136
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: the documentary, well, the things that he had to go

1137
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 3: through as an eighteen year old. But I think Boris

1138
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 3: has lived such a life. He's been around, if so

1139
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 3: much himself. He was terrific for Novak, and Novak will

1140
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: tell you that, you know, he was great, and I

1141
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: think that he's that type of personality personality, No, Boris,

1142
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: He's just he's not into hyperbole and he's going to

1143
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: tell Renett to shut the fuck up. Yeah, stop complaining.

1144
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: He's a very I know Boris very well, and he's

1145
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: a very strong personality in a sense, he's a very

1146
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 2: if that's still possible, he's emotional, yeah, but if that's

1147
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 2: still possible, he's uh, the best possible alpha male if

1148
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: that makes sense. Like that's nowadays that's kind of an insult,

1149
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 2: but I mean it in a good way. In this case,

1150
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: he's very sure of himself. He knows who he is,

1151
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: he likes who he is. He has a lot of confidence,

1152
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: a lot of inner confidence, and I think it might

1153
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 2: have been shaken by everything that has happened, but he

1154
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: and he doesn't need the job in that way right

1155
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: because he was.

1156
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 3: He wouldn't mind a little money.

1157
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is this is really complicated. But

1158
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: I think that's why he also handled being with Novak

1159
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: so well for so long, same as go Ivanishovitch, because

1160
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,479
Speaker 2: you have to be a strong personality to handle these

1161
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: really ambitious guys who know what they want and I

1162
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: just like pitbulls, when they want something, they don't let go.

1163
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 3: If you have a coach that you can tread all over,

1164
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 3: you lose respect. You don't respect what they're saying to you.

1165
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 3: You've got to have that ability as a coach, no

1166
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: matter who you're coaching, to be able to step up

1167
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: and say, I think this is the best thing for

1168
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 3: you and never doubt what you're saying to your player.

1169
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 3: And Boris is that going to be that person for Runa.

1170
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 3: And it's already he's already improved under him. He can

1171
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 3: tell he's controlling himself better on the cord, he's becoming

1172
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 3: less controversial, he's sort of doing the right thing. And

1173
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 3: I think Boris is going to be a great influence

1174
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: for Renna I think Rna is going to have a

1175
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 3: really big year next year, just like Schiantek in a

1176
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 3: lot of ways. I think he learned a lot about

1177
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 3: himself this year, about how to deal.

1178
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: With Morris, maybe in a way well.

1179
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 3: In some respects, but also mean, look is clearly way

1180
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: more accomplished. But I think just learning to deal with

1181
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 3: adversity as a young player, learning from it and becoming better.

1182
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 3: And I think he did that this year. I think

1183
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 3: he's finished the year. He pushes Novak every time he plays,

1184
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: he says tremendous respect for Novak. I think Novak is

1185
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 3: certainly somebody he looks up to. I think that he

1186
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 3: would have learned a lot from it this year, and

1187
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 3: I think that he you know, and I think he's

1188
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: matured a little bit over the last couple of months.

1189
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 3: I think actually him playing like shit for a little

1190
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: while has actually kind of humbled somewhat, and I think

1191
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 3: that he got back to really doing what's important. And Look,

1192
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 3: I'm famous for saying or for saying, he has a

1193
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: punishable face. Okay, there were times on court that I

1194
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 3: said that he is a bit of a punishable face.

1195
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 3: I mean in it in jest, but I actually have

1196
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 3: to say I think he's improved a lot on the court,

1197
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: and I kind of like him now. I think he's

1198
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 3: turned a little bit of a corner and I think

1199
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 3: he's going to have a great year next year. Let's

1200
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 3: get to the nicest player on two.

1201
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: I have to say one thing about holgar Una. I

1202
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 2: always liked him because I love the rebels on court.

1203
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: I love when they, you know, are kind of street fighters.

1204
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: I will say he has to figure out what is

1205
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: going on with his body because he is losing substance

1206
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: in the third sets. We're on the ATP Tour. You

1207
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: need to be able to sustain five set matches, have

1208
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: a day rest and come back and play again if

1209
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 2: you want to win a slam, especially when he needs

1210
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: to figure out practice. He's cramping and I know genetically

1211
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: some people are just prone to cramping more than others.

1212
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: But he needs to have a good medical team in

1213
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: place and figure out what the hell is going on

1214
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 2: with his buddy because that needs to become better. I

1215
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 2: think his tennis is tremendous. I love watching him play,

1216
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: and you're right, hub Hurekach two titles and I don't

1217
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: have a lot to say about him except that I

1218
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: like him.

1219
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love him. He's literally other than

1220
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 3: Yannick Sinner could be as far as top ten are concerned.

1221
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 3: Just my favorite person employer. There's one indelible moment to

1222
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 3: me when he walked out to the crowd at Washington

1223
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 3: DC last year, not this year. Last year he was

1224
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 3: the top seed, I think or two seed, and it

1225
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 3: was like twelve o'clock in the middle of the day

1226
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 3: and you have played in Washington, d C. Where it's

1227
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 3: literally one hundred and five degrees in the middle of

1228
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 3: the day. He is there watching the tennis on center

1229
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 3: court because it's so hot. They it gets packed. It's

1230
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 3: sold out every so on diss on DC because it's

1231
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: literally one of the best tournaments of the year. But

1232
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,959
Speaker 3: you know, people have a tendency not to come watch

1233
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,479
Speaker 3: those first early matches, right because people are jobs as well.

1234
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 3: There was like five people in the crowd and he

1235
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 3: walks out and he literally smiles and waves as he's

1236
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 3: walking out there, and I'm just like, I love this.

1237
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: He smiled and waved it single every single person that

1238
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: were at the people.

1239
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 3: That are on there. I just he's just got that.

1240
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 3: He's like he reminds me of a five year old

1241
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: in a twenty five year old man's very tall body.

1242
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 3: You know, we just have those like pigeon toed walk

1243
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 3: and he just battles. He comes in. I just love him.

1244
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 3: We don't have a lot to.

1245
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: See him progressing in his tennis player.

1246
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 3: I see him being this player forever, winning a tier

1247
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 3: of a Master's one thousand every now and again, getting

1248
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 3: to semis of a slam. He certainly can winning one.

1249
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 3: I don't think he can win one, but I see

1250
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 3: him doing very well for his career. I think him

1251
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 3: being a perennial top ten, top twenty player for his

1252
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: entire career because he loves the sport and he works

1253
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 3: really hard, and he doesn't have a lot of weaknesses.

1254
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: It's just so I think the other guys are just

1255
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 3: a little bit better under pressure. From time to time,

1256
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 3: he gets a little bit chokes. Yeah, it gets a

1257
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 3: bit choky, But I love him. And is there a

1258
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 3: guy that plays more fucking three set matches or wins

1259
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 3: more matches in tiebreaks?

1260
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 2: Well, that's the interesting belieue because he chokes when he's

1261
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: up and then he plays okay in the taybreaks, which

1262
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: is like bro It's easier to play when you're up

1263
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: five two than when you're five all in the third

1264
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: set tiebreak.

1265
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I love He's my favorite player.

1266
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 2: I like him. I like him too. Let's go on

1267
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: to the last Taylor and the top ten. It's Taylor Fritz.

1268
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: He also had two titles. Interesting season. He needs to

1269
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: figure out his Grand Slam performances for a doesn't he well.

1270
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 3: The thing is, and I've said this over and over

1271
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 3: about him, Taylor played twenty six tournaments this year, which

1272
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 3: is a lot, but a lot of that had to

1273
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 3: do with him trying to make the ATP finals as

1274
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 3: well at the end of the year. But I think

1275
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 3: the problem for.

1276
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 2: I do Let's talk about this. Make your point and

1277
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: then we'll talk about this. I have a question.

1278
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 3: I think the thing with Taylor is the reason he

1279
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: doesn't do well at slams. And listen, this is a

1280
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 3: guy that did well at Wwimbledon, lost that really tough

1281
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 3: match against Nadel a couple of years ago. But I

1282
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 3: think the problem with Taylor is that he loses his

1283
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 3: shit like Larublev from time to time. He's complaining to

1284
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 3: his box all the time. And I like Taylor a

1285
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 3: lot like, I actually like him. He talks really well

1286
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 3: when you interview him. He understands the game. He's nice

1287
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 3: guy off the court. He treats people well, but fuck

1288
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 3: on the court, like yelling and every point like looking

1289
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 3: at his box, like putting his hands up and complaining.

1290
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, if you want to do well at

1291
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 3: Grand Slams, you have to learn to calm the farm

1292
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 3: and shut your mouth when it comes to playing best

1293
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 3: of five because all the emotion that you're giving out

1294
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 3: negatively all the time is going to come back to

1295
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 3: bite you when it really counts. There's a reason why Novak.

1296
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: You know, Novak can do it from time to time,

1297
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 3: but he's been doing it and when he's won twenty

1298
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: how many Grand Slams? Like let that guy. That guy

1299
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 3: can do whatever he wants. He knows how to win.

1300
00:59:55,640 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 3: You need to stop emoting negativity when you playing tennis,

1301
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: and it starts on the practice court, then you taken

1302
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 3: onto the matches. And that would be the first thing

1303
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: that I would say to him. I want you from

1304
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 3: day one, at your first match at every Grand Slam.

1305
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to see a negative reaction from you.

1306
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 3: And let's see how you do and if you don't

1307
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: do well, you can do whatever the fuck you want

1308
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 3: every single match going forward. But as a coach, I'd

1309
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 3: be like, if you gestured to me something negative at

1310
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 3: five all in the first set when you just lost

1311
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 3: one point, you know, you missed a foehand by half

1312
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 3: an inch, and you gesture anything to me like, oh,

1313
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 3: it's missed, but I'm leaving. Yeah, So you've got to

1314
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 3: be tough like that as a coach. And he has.

1315
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 3: Mike Russell's done a great job with him, but it's like, man,

1316
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: that's the biggest issue for him. And this is somebody

1317
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 3: who's in the top ten in the world, and I

1318
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 3: give him great credit because he does. He's you know,

1319
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: had a great year, but man, that's the one thing

1320
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 3: that's the one knock on him at Grand Slams. That's

1321
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 3: what needs to get better for him to get to

1322
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 3: a final of Grands sit.

1323
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he also needs to work on his

1324
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 2: first serve a bit and seconds both serves. Like when

1325
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: it's good, it's good, but he sometimes loses timing on it.

1326
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: He throws it up high, so when he loses the timing,

1327
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: he tends not to make first serves and important games.

1328
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: So there are a few things in his game as

1329
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: well that I think that he can get better. Apart

1330
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: from the emotions. I will ask one question that I

1331
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 2: was very surprised about his because we talked about it

1332
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 2: a few times today, how important scheduling is and how

1333
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 2: it's part of being a tennis professional and being one

1334
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: of the best ten players in the world. He scheduled

1335
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: to play all the tournaments on the US Open series

1336
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: to go into the US Open. My thinking is, if

1337
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: you're a top eight player as an American. He ended

1338
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: up in the top ten, but he was in the

1339
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 2: top eight coming into the US Open. When you're a

1340
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: top eight player in the US at the US Open

1341
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 2: as an American, you want to win. You might not,

1342
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: you might lose, even lose first round, but you have

1343
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: to plan for this grand slant for this major as

1344
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 2: if you are going to win. Can you win a

1345
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 2: major that lasts two weeks where you play in the

1346
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 2: worst heat, the worst humidity. He against the best players

1347
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 2: in the world and the jungle that is New York

1348
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 2: City With playing five tournaments in a row before that,

1349
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: I don't think you can.

1350
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 3: He played five tournaments.

1351
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if he played Atlanta, he played Washington

1352
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 2: d C. He played Toronto, he played Cincinnati, and I

1353
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: think he was scheduled to play Winston Salem and then

1354
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 2: he pulled out. So it's scheduled to play it five

1355
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: and he played four.

1356
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 3: That's so dumb. Well, you know Cincinnati and Canada are mandatory.

1357
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 2: Right, so he had you played Atlanta and Washington.

1358
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he won Atlanta anyway Washington, So I'm sure

1359
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 3: he got paid to go to Washington. But yeah, you're right, But.

1360
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: Do you want to run a major or do you

1361
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 2: want to get paid to play in Washington? That's the

1362
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 2: question I have.

1363
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you're making you're You're telling me what he

1364
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 3: needs to do, and.

1365
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you what he needs to do play.

1366
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 2: It's the what I want to say by that is

1367
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: not I'm not faulting or judging Taylor Fritz. He can

1368
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: He's an adult man. He can do whatever he wants.

1369
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: And he has a great career, as a great life.

1370
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: He's earning great money. And I will say he is

1371
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: one of the most competitive guys. I love his attitude.

1372
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: He has worked so hard, right, but he never gives up.

1373
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 2: He has no ego. He always fights like I have

1374
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of respect. The thing what I'm asking

1375
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 2: by that is not is not a part of a judgment.

1376
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 2: It's a glimpse into his mentality. Does he actually believe

1377
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: that he can win the US Open, because if he did,

1378
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: maybe he would have scheduled differently.

1379
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1380
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm just asking this is a question. I'm genuinely asking me.

1381
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:26,919
Speaker 2: You have the answer.

1382
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 3: I think that him going to Atlanta was okay because

1383
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 3: he lost early, terribly at Wumbledon where he lost to

1384
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 3: Michael Emer in the second round, so he had a

1385
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of time. So he went and

1386
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 3: won Atlanta, which is great. Then the thing that he

1387
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 3: should have done then is not play Washington. Although you

1388
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 3: know he probably thinks, all right, I'm getting my confidence back.

1389
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 3: Maybe if I win Washington. He lost a Greek spoor

1390
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 3: in the semi finals six to two and the third

1391
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,959
Speaker 3: so maybe if he wins Washington, then he goes into

1392
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: those tons, maybe he pulls out of Canada. I don't know.

1393
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 3: Or maybe Washington d C.

1394
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: Is the worst turn meant to play off the year.

1395
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 2: Conditions wise, it's the hottest, most huge.

1396
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 3: He would have played a lot of mat he lost

1397
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 3: at night though, I think because he was one of

1398
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: the drawers.

1399
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: You still lose a lot of substance there. You threatch

1400
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: so much, it's not easy to recover from that tournament.

1401
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 3: So he lost in the Semis to Greeks Boy, he

1402
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: lost in the round of sixteen, then in Canada to

1403
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 3: Alex d Minor, and then he lost to Novak in

1404
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 3: the quarters in Cincy, and that he didn't play to

1405
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 3: the US Open. But you're right, that's that's actually figuring

1406
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 3: it out. And then he actually played really well at

1407
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 3: the US Open and he didn't lose a set, so

1408
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 3: everyone was like, oh, this is the time. Yeah, and

1409
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 3: then he got crushed by Novak in three sets. So

1410
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 3: he has to figure out that. But that's what I'm saying.

1411
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 3: For me, it's his emotional ups and downs. And I

1412
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 3: would like to actually go back and look at the

1413
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 3: matches that he played against those players that he won

1414
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 3: every match in three sets, in straight sets. Yeah, how

1415
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 3: emotional was he throughout that? Like, because so those are

1416
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 3: the little things that I would look at as a

1417
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 3: coach for him. And then where where does Novak pick

1418
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: him apart or I mean other than everywhere? So anyway,

1419
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 3: So let's get to who we think, so.

1420
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 2: The players that they were either surprises or that were

1421
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: memorable to you, and I have a few on my list.

1422
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 2: What comes to your mind when you think of players

1423
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 2: outside of the top ten that somehow grasped your attention

1424
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 2: in one way or another.

1425
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 3: Well, listen, we have to talk about Ben Shelton and.

1426
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 2: A lot of very exciting.

1427
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 3: A lot of people have asked me, you know, who's

1428
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 3: the American that's gonna win O Slam if they do.

1429
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 3: And I do think that Ben Shelton is that player.

1430
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 3: I think why because he has the weapons. He has

1431
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 3: huge serve, his fourhands huge and the thing that he's

1432
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: gotten really good at and much better at that he

1433
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 3: did it even at the start of the year we

1434
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 3: had a great Australian Open is his backhand has got

1435
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 3: more reliable because he's back and at Theustrain and Open,

1436
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 3: I was like, oh god, it's so bad. I mean

1437
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 3: it was so bad. But you know, look at Sam Stosa.

1438
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 3: Sam's backhand was not great, but she started to not

1439
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 3: miss it when she was playing at her best, and

1440
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 3: their fourhander serve was so dominant and once she.

1441
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 2: Had that little when she was playing her best, she

1442
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: had that little backhand down the line pass because you

1443
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 2: would know that normally if you attack her on the

1444
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: back end you would get an opening. But that when

1445
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: she was playing well, she really played it so flat

1446
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: and almost short into the court, and if you don't

1447
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: have great volleys, which most women don't, it was really

1448
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: hard to.

1449
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 3: Call it a nice little slice short or she would

1450
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 3: smack the back end on the line, and a lot

1451
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 3: of women didn't cover that shot enough. So with Ben,

1452
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 3: I think he's improved his back end so much he's

1453
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 3: not making a lot of errors on it, and then

1454
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 3: everywhere else is so good, and he hits the shit

1455
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: out of the ball.

1456
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 2: And he's really a specimen physically, and I'll tell you what,

1457
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: he has the most explosive muscles I've seen in a line.

1458
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 2: And he's cocky, which is important attitude.

1459
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 3: But also the thing that I think he got better

1460
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 3: at even in the end of the year, because you know,

1461
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 3: he had that great Austrain open, played very average after that,

1462
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 3: couldn't win two matches in a.

1463
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: Row euphemism for bad because he didn't win a match.

1464
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, he didn't win two matches in a row,

1465
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 3: and then he had a great us Open. But the

1466
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 3: thing that impressed me the most was his end of

1467
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 3: the year, how well he played in China, and the

1468
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 3: thing that talking about Rema. We were talking about how

1469
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 3: people get super excited when they win a match, you know,

1470
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 3: and he had the phone thing then, you know, put

1471
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 3: the phone down. He stopped doing that after a while,

1472
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 3: and I think he started to learn that, you know

1473
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 3: what this is about me winning and getting respect, and

1474
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 3: he won his first ATP title. And I think that

1475
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 3: what I saw from Ben was no mistakes on the

1476
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,439
Speaker 3: back end, huge weapons, but his mentality was very good.

1477
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 3: Like he'd win matches against really good players and quarters

1478
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 3: and semis and he would just be like yep, shake

1479
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 3: hands and walk off.

1480
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 2: I like that because he kept the cockiness in a

1481
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 2: way inside him as an energy that he can channel

1482
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 2: to actually put the phone down, not physically doing it,

1483
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 2: but just like actually put the phone down, meaning winning matches.

1484
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 2: And I think you're right. He really channeled that cockiness

1485
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: into a positive energy that he used to play.

1486
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 3: So kudos to him and all the American guys who

1487
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 3: were pushing each other. And it's about time they've caught

1488
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 3: up to the women.

1489
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: And I think you will talk about that because I

1490
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 2: had it as a talking point. I was like, I

1491
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: think that should be something for you and Caitlin when

1492
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: you look towards the twenty twenty four sees, because I

1493
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 2: think that's going to be really interesting. Who's going to

1494
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: end up US's number one? On the man's side?

1495
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Speaker 3: You mentioned it earlier.

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Speaker 2: There are five in the top twenty five, and it's

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Speaker 2: really incredible to witness. Who else did you do you?

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Speaker 2: So I'm just going to throw in. Okay, so I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna throw in two. I'm going to throw in and

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Speaker 2: we don't have to talk about them for a long time.

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01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,919
Speaker 2: I just want to throw them in. Matteo Arnaldi, who

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01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 2: beat We talked about it, who beat the Australian Alex popperin.

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01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: I just love his game. I love how he plays.

1504
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 2: He hits so hard and he's so skinny. I'm like,

1505
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 2: where's this energy coming? Where's the power coming from? All

1506
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 2: these skinny, dainty little Italians. I love them. And I

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01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: have to give a big shout out to Grigor Dimitchov

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01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: because I think he really had a tremendous comeback. It's

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01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 2: bad in a podcast to do COVID well, but it's

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01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: bad in a podcast to do signals with your hands

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Speaker 2: a quotes. So I'm doing come back because he was around,

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01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 2: but he was struggling. And this year I think he

1513
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 2: really found his form again, played some great matches and

1514
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 2: as we know, always a guy for the highlight reels,

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Speaker 2: and I really enjoyed seeing him back at his best.

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Speaker 2: But he had long COVID, Yeah, long COVID.

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Speaker 3: I spoke to him quite a lot at the start

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01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 3: of the year and he just said, look, I struggled

1519
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 3: so much, like I couldn't because he got COVID a

1520
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 3: couple of times, and he's like, I couldn't do the

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01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 3: physical work in the gym. And we know how important

1522
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 3: that his legs are and how quick he is around

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01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 3: the court. So it was really nice to see him,

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Speaker 3: and I did when I remember when I saw him

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01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,879
Speaker 3: in Washington this year, or maybe it was at Wimbledon,

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01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 3: hadn't seen him for a couple of months, and I went, oh,

1527
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 3: my god, you look so much stronger physically, Like his

1528
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 3: chest was a little bit bigger. He was just stronger

1529
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 3: and you could tell. And so he needs that to

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01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 3: do better. And so hopefully he can have another really

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Speaker 3: good year next year and keep keep the momentum going.

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Speaker 3: He just doesn't quite have it against the top guys,

1533
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 3: you know, like Novak and when they're on, but certainly

1534
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 3: push pushed them all this year. So it was really

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Speaker 3: nice to see.

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Speaker 2: Any tournament of competition that stood out to you on

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Speaker 2: the ATP side in any formal way.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I just I loved to see I

1539
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 3: loved to see Novak do what he did again this year.

1540
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 3: It was unbelievable, just to do it at his age

1541
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 3: and just embrace the well, like you said, embrace that

1542
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 3: side of him, the villain. But I loved, loved the

1543
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 3: final at Wimbledon, and you know the final it was.

1544
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 3: I was there live watching it. It was just fuck

1545
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 3: the atmosphere and the tennis was just unbelievable. It was

1546
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 3: so great. But just overall, Yannick Sinner's rise to the

1547
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 3: top at the end and what he did, and yeah,

1548
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 3: it's just the top ten guys, the top three or

1549
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 3: four guys are so good. You mentioned that you didn't

1550
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 3: think that the depth was there and the men's game

1551
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 3: as much as the women's, But look, over all, the

1552
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 3: men's was an entertaining year in the fact that Novak

1553
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 3: won everything again and so we'll see, we'll see how.

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Speaker 2: Much you know in soccer. They used to say about

1555
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 2: the German team. They're in soccer, eleven man play against

1556
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 2: eleven men, and Germany wins in the end. And it

1557
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 2: feels like that on the ATP tour for the last year,

1558
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 2: like everyone is fighting for the title and in the

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Speaker 2: end Novak winz Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyway I was to say.

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Speaker 2: I have to say it was a really exciting year.

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Speaker 2: I think the just the yes, Novak dominated, but just

1563
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 2: the glimpse of a few sure where there are young

1564
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: guys who can challenge him and who are setting up

1565
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 2: for interesting rivalries to come was very exciting and I

1566
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 2: think that's why a lot of people jumped on that.

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Speaker 2: Carlos Alcaraz again, you have to.

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Speaker 3: Admit Roger and Rafa made Novak the player he is.

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Speaker 3: He had to be made all the players, and I

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Speaker 3: would say arguably that the runas, the al Carezas and

1571
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 3: the Sinners in particular, and the rude blood from time

1572
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 3: to time, they are making Novak even better because they

1573
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 3: are as quick as him. They have in the variety

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01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 3: that Alkaraz has has made Novak anticipate hitting drop shots

1575
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 3: and coming to the net and all that sort of stuff.

1576
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 3: The power that Sinner has, Novak has to flatten out,

1577
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 3: the forehand has to come into that, all.

1578
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 2: The things much more aggressive than that atp.

1579
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 3: In his surface Novaky. So I don't know, I just

1580
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 3: I'm loving it. These guys are catching up, but they're

1581
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 3: still not there yet, as he says, kids aren't there yet.

1582
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 3: So anyway, it was great, great year on the Men's

1583
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Speaker 3: do We can't wait for the Istral and Open to start.

1584
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Speaker 3: Caitlin and I are going to do a live podcast

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Speaker 3: the seventeenth of Decen in New York City. So if

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Speaker 3: youre in the Tri State Era in the area, jump

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Speaker 3: in a car or train, pop up here. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: have a live a podcast. Sadly Petco won't be there,

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Speaker 3: She'll be back there.

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Speaker 2: I won't be there, but thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: having me. This was a pleasure, and see you next

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Speaker 2: year for a wrap up of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Rather yes, Donkey Bell in Dutch. You know, I would

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Speaker 3: just say thank you Petco for always being my friend.

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Speaker 3: Coming on the podcast. We love you and how's retirement?

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Speaker 3: Just real quick fun?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good good, yeah, doing this doing this all right?

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Speaker 3: Guys, thanks for joining us again for the wrap up

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Speaker 3: the men's and we'll hear from you real or you're

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Speaker 3: here from us real soon. Choose baby Jews