1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are actually recording 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: this right after the vice presidential debate, so we are 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: a little bit tired, but we wanted to get right 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: to it. So I have Kyle Olsen with me and 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Sarah Broadwater, and I just want to jump in and say, well, 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: what did you think of those moderators? They were so 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: non biased and non fact checking. I just love how 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: they were like, we're not fact checking. And then they 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: would look at Tim Walls like with a wink wink, 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: and they'd be like, do you want to ask jd Vance? 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: You want to ask the senator about this? This? And this? 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: Come on? 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: Well, and then when he challenged when jd Vance challenged 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: them for supposedly fact checking him, then he was criticized 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: for that. It was again it was another three on 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: one with the moderators, you know, ganging up, and but 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: it was I thought it was a I thought it 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: was a very good debate. I thought it was respect 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: They disagreed with each other, but it was respectful. There 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: were not personal attacks even against the two, you know, 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: because their job is to attack the top of the ticket. 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: On the other side, there was there were criticisms, but 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 2: it was not you know, little snipes and all of that. 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: I thought it was very good. 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: I think it was like really a throwback to debates 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: when we were younger, you know, we look at debates 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: between presidential candidates of the past. That's what tonight felt like. 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 1: And I mean tonight felt to me like a presidential debate. 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't so much of vice presidential debate. And I 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: give credit to jd Vance for that, because here's a 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: forty year old guy who went in there and he 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: was up against it. I mean, I'm not joking when 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: I say I think the moderators were sneaky with the 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: way that they turned against him, and they twisted the 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: facts and they twisted the questions, and then they went 36 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: back to walls and they were like, Okay, this is dude, Hey, 37 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: here you go. We're going to help you out. This 38 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: is what you want to ask now. And he handled 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 1: it in stride. I mean, he was just like, okay, 40 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: you throw whatever you want at me. I've got this. 41 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: And I think that it really does go to his history, 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: his background. His background is such that he's lived through 43 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: so much. He's lived through life struggles, he's lived through 44 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: the bullying, of being a kid that was less fortunate, 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: and then going through Yale as a kid who probably 46 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: felt really out of place there because of the way 47 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: he'd grown up with a mom who had been addicted 48 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: to drugs, and just the overall struggles of his life. 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean, God really prepared him for this moment, and 50 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: I just felt like you could really see that shining through. 51 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: I think it also shows how many at bats he's 52 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: had the last however, many months when he was actually 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: doing media and Tim Walls and Kamala Harris have done nothing. 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean, He's done like over fifty interviews in the 55 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: last month, probably alone. Tim Walls, I think has done two. 56 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: I wonder though, if this is probably the only debate 57 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: where someone has referred to themselves as a knuckle. 58 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 2: There was strange, and there was some sort of awkward. 59 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: He was just a little awkward, especially at the beginning. 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: He probably was nervous, but it was just Walls mean Walls. Yeah, 61 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: It's funny. 62 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: In the preview this morning, when they were setting expectations 63 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: his own team, Walls's team said he was nervous, and 64 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: I was like, that's kind of a weird expectations setting. 65 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: But I guess it was real. I thought he was 66 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: going to come out like when they said that, I 67 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: thought that was they were trying to spoof us, and 68 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: he would come out with like a shimmery jacket on 69 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: a tap dance up to the podium and then be 70 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: like on it, you know, But he wasn't on it. 71 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean he really was. He really came off nervous, 72 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: and then when they asked him questions that he didn't 73 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 1: know how to answer, he could see he freaked out. 74 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: Instead of just you know, pivoting or going to something else, 75 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: he really panicked about it. And that's how he ended 76 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: up with the knucklehead answer about Tanneman Square and saying 77 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: that he was there and he truly wasn't there, instead 78 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: of actually really answering to that. Though he fumbled around 79 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: that answer for a very long time. It's very uncomfortable, 80 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: and he didn't actually respond to it by saying, you know, 81 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: I screw things up and I am a knucklehead and 82 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: I got that wrong. He went through this meandering chatter 83 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: about all different things about how he taught there and 84 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: how he thought Donald Trump should go there, and then 85 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: suddenly he was like an I'm a nucklehemmer and then 86 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: I was like, what did he just say? And I 87 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: realized that was his meandering way of saying, yeah, I lied. 88 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: I think that was campaign malpractice that they didn't have 89 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: an answer for that, though you knew that was going 90 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: to be I mean, that story was all over today. 91 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: What is it? I mean, the answer is not two minutes. 92 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: It's the answer is not I'm a knuckleheader. Well no, 93 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah that's true, but maybe it is. Maybe 94 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: that's the whole actually is the answer. I thought it 95 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: was interesting because he talked about One thing Walls talked 96 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: about was the veteran home loan, and he was talking 97 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: about how Kamala Harris wants to give this twenty five 98 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: thousand dollars down payment to everybody, and he talked about 99 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: how you know, when you get a veteran home loan, 100 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: you don't have a down payment and how great it is. 101 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: And I thought, so, aren't you kind of ticked off 102 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: if you're a veteran and you're being told that anybody's 103 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: going to get the same treatment you got, because this 104 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 1: is they get this because they give up their lives, 105 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: they go out and serve for us, and they don't 106 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: know if they're coming home. They don't know if they'll 107 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: ever cash in on that home loan because they don't 108 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: know that they're coming home. And I just think it's 109 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: really kind of shortsighted to even bring that up when 110 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: you're talking about, Hey, I got it because I served, 111 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: and I think everybody should get it. Well, why what's 112 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: the incentive to serve that if you're treated to differently 113 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: than everybody else? 114 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: Well, and not just that, but if everyone is getting it, 115 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: then it's for you know, entry level homes and first 116 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: time buyers. The price is there just going to go 117 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: up twenty five grand, So you're inflating the costs or 118 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: the price of house or value of a house, I guess. 119 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: And it just does not seem like a very good 120 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: policy to me. But that's sort of the typical mo, 121 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: isn't it, where Democrats are always wanting to throw more 122 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: money at people and create more programs. 123 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: I will say one thing that I would have liked 124 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: to see JD. Bans do, And this is not really 125 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: a criticism, because I do think that he did a 126 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: phenomenal job and I think that he will This debate 127 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: will be used when they teach debate class to kids 128 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: they will look at this and say this was a masterclass. 129 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: But one thing I don't know why it didn't happen 130 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: with he or Donald Trump, is that neither of them 131 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: talked about the people, the women who have been killed 132 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: by illegal aliens. And I think that's a powerful story. 133 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: I think the Joscelyn Nungrees, and I think that Rachel 134 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: Morin's and the lake and Riley's and Ruby Garcias they 135 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: deserve to have their names spoken in public like this 136 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: because I think that we hear about it, because we 137 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: watch the media that is willing to talk about it. 138 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: But the viewers that were watching tonight probably don't know 139 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: those names. They probably can't rattle them off. I think 140 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: it's the same way that democrats try to personalize abortion, right. 141 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: They don't just use statistics, whereas we continuously use statistics 142 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: on the border. You know, however, many kids were lost, 143 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: and those are horrible numbers, but you have to put 144 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: a name and a face to the story as horrible 145 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: at it as it is. 146 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: Right, and yet Tim Walls was able to rattle off 147 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: the names of the abortion people, but not. 148 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: But he couldn't answer whether or not he was willing 149 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: to allow abortion up to the moment of birth. 150 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was asked about you know, where he draws 151 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: the line, and he said, that's not what the bill said. 152 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: So he didn't actually articulate his position, which and this 153 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 2: is what happens is the Democrats. And I'm actually surprised 154 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: they asked that question because usually they don't even ask it, 155 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: but they actually asked the question because the Democrats are 156 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: so good at sort of you know, escaping exactly articulating 157 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: exactly what their position is. And he was asked that 158 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: and again he didn't answer it. 159 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 1: No. I think it was one of those situations where 160 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: he goes back and he says, that's not what the 161 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: bill said, and he thought he was done. He's like, okay, 162 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm out of this. But JD. Vance, this is another 163 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: example of how what a phenomenal job Jade Vance did 164 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: because he said, no, Governor, that is what it said, 165 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: and he said, that's clearly what the bill said. But 166 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that Walls came back and said, 167 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: now you're just interpreting that that way, Well, can it 168 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: be interpreted that way? Because it can it well be, 169 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: And that's the and I think that was exactly JD. 170 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: Vance's point, Yes, the bill can be interpreted that way, 171 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: and therefore that can then happen. But they're unwilling to 172 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: admit that because they know that's incredibly unpopular, and we 173 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: know that when Hillary Clinton was talking about that on 174 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: the debate stage, it was very ugly speaking of that. 175 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: I was thinking as I was watching them go through 176 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: the January sixth stuff, It's like, you know, in twenty twenty, 177 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: had Hillary Clinton run again, would they have been accusing 178 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: her of saying she won the election that Donald Trump 179 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: was an illegitimate president? And then would they have said 180 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: to her, will you give the money back you made 181 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: on the books that you wrote about the election being 182 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: stolen from you because you should not have personally profited 183 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: off of this lie. I can't even imagine it, That's 184 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: the thing I'm like, But it would happen on the 185 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: other side, Oh, it totally would, But I totally can't 186 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: even picture it. The same thing with Stacy Abrams if 187 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: she ever runs for governor again or whatever she wants 188 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: to do next. I mean, think of all the books 189 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: that she has toured around the country on her sob 190 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: story of I lost this, I had this election stolen 191 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: from me, and that was the terminology that they used, 192 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: that it was a stolen eleggen at press and he's 193 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: an illegitimate president. 194 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: And would they have called her an election denier in 195 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. 196 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: They need to add her to that little website that 197 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: they've created of all of the election deniers. I just 198 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: think it's ridiculous because now there's a term that we 199 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: use like it's an actual real thing. I mean, people 200 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: are allowed to question it, and you know, the rhetoric 201 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: that it goes back and forth is going to go 202 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: back and forth. There's always going to be somebody that's 203 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: going to go I mean, even when I go around 204 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: the state, people go on, I don't think you lost 205 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: that election. You know, It's like there are always people 206 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: who are going to feel like they want to take 207 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: ownership and say, I believe things actually went a different way. 208 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: It's not illegal to say that. Let's take a quick 209 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon podcast. 210 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: The way they pross a cute people on the debate stage, Republicans, 211 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: like I said, if Hillary were up there, they would 212 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: never say those things to her. 213 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: I thought jad Vance brought some good perspective to that. 214 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: Because of course they were trying to the moderators, we're 215 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: trying to sort of, you know, play it up, and 216 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 2: he said, basically, Donald Trump called on his supporters to 217 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: to peacefully protest, and he you know, took his case 218 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 2: to courts. He lost, but he ended up peacefully transferring 219 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: power on January twentieth. 220 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: I was that made me very happy that he said that, 221 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: because I thought it was something that no one has 222 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: ever said, and the media will never say, and they 223 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: today will say, you know, he won't if he ever 224 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: gets power again, he'll never leave. Well, how do you 225 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: explain that he peacefully left on January twentieth and then 226 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: ran again in an election right now? So he clearly 227 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: did not hold on to power, right And that's what 228 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: bothers me about all this talk about that kind of stuff. 229 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: I thought the closing statements were interesting because I watched JD. Vans. 230 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: I thought his was very good because he talked about 231 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: the cost of things and then he kind of went 232 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: through a he kind of prosecuted the case against Harris. 233 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: So this has happened. This has happened. This has happened, 234 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: and it was very articulate. Tim Walls, I thought was 235 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: interesting because the whole debate he would say he would 236 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: just make up these things about and he was totally 237 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: making up lies. Did you notice about Donald Trump would 238 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: have this person at Mara Lago and promised them this, 239 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: like there's no evidence that any of that happened. He 240 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: would have big oil at his at Mara a Lago 241 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: and tell them they could do anything they wanted, which 242 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: I was personally offended by because these guys are not maniacs. 243 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: The big oil companies are not animals. They're not just 244 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: like Donald, you know what, wave all regulations and let 245 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: us just like drill in the golf and spill it 246 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: wherever we want. We just want to be mad men. 247 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: You know. It's like, how insulting to some of our biggest, 248 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: big you know, executives out there who really do do 249 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: a lot to make the cleanest energy possible. And I 250 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: think if you look at our oil industry compared to others, 251 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: you would find that we have the cleanest oil industry 252 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: in the world. But I just thought, after saying all 253 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: these bananas things about like, oh, he's having these rich 254 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: people here and rich people there, and he's doing everything 255 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: this he is just with Alex Soros, right, but then 256 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: he ends I wrote it down so I would get 257 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: it right. He ends his speech with We're so proud 258 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: to have Dick Cheney, Bernie Sanders, and Taylor Swift all 259 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: supporting us. And I'm like, what an interesting crowd of people, 260 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: because like all very wealthy people, and Bernie Sanders can 261 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: pretend Blake he's not, but he is very wealthy, much 262 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: more wealthy than he is millionaire the average people you know, 263 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: like this is this is not a working guy. Taylor Swift. 264 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean she's probably even wide brow and butt it 265 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: on the toy, like give me a break, And I 266 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: thought she has people to do everything. And Dick Cheney, 267 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: this is not like your average American either. So he 268 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: goes through this whole thing and I think to myself, 269 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: he ends it on these people, like that's how he 270 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: ends it, well, like look at us, Taylor Swift with us, 271 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean talk about a name drop. 272 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: I will say, Dick Cheney clearly is not the average person. 273 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: And he's not a normal person because there's only so 274 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: many people that you can shoot a judge in the 275 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: face and get the judge to apologize to you. So 276 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: I he is he is not normal, but it is 277 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: it is. It's an interesting time in American history where 278 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: for as much as the Democrats loathed George W. Bush 279 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: and Dick Cheney and maybe Dick Cheney Moore than George W. Bush, 280 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: I think they hate I think they hate Donald Trump more, 281 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: but they hate Donald Trump so much that they are 282 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: actually holding up Dick Cheney as an endorsement that they. 283 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: Want and begging George W. Bush to weigh in. 284 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: So and I thought one of the best things that JD. 285 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: Vance said, and I think he said it a couple times, 286 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: is that you could be doing all of these things 287 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: right now. Kamalins has been in office for three and 288 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: a half years. She keeps talking about when they you know, 289 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: on day one, she's been there for fourteen hundred days. 290 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: Why if all of these things are so critical that 291 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: she wants to do and they're so important and they 292 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: have to be done right away, do them. 293 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: I was sort of disappointed that he didn't bring up 294 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: her role in the Ukraine War. And you know, Jade 295 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: Bance has been very vocal about the fact that she 296 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: met with Putin a few days beforehand and said that 297 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: they would have they would NATO would come around Ukraine 298 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: if he invaded, and then you know, then of course 299 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: he invaded. But I also thought it was shocking that 300 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: he didn't push back more on them as warmongers. However, 301 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: I think that the moderators made sure that those questions 302 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: were limited or the opportunity for that was very limited. 303 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: But look at where we are right now. I mean, 304 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: just look at what happened with Israel today. What a disaster. 305 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: You have Iran going after them again, and who knows 306 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: how this is going to escalate, because you know, you 307 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: have Prime Minister NETANYAHUO coming out and saying you're gonna 308 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: regret this. This is a terrible situation. There's no one 309 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: to bring peace to this situation. I think it was 310 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: interesting you did an article, Kyle about a Yemeni general 311 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: who was in Michigan and said, we actually need Donald 312 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: Trump back because we'd like to have peace in our region. 313 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the untold story about the 314 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: Middle East. The surrounding countries actually want peace. They don't 315 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: want Iran to have all this power and to continue 316 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: to to just spread terror throughout the region. They want 317 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: to be known for that. They liked the fact that 318 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump kept Iran in order in line. But they're 319 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: not talking about the connection to Dick Cheney. They always 320 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: used to call Dick Cheney warmonger, remember that, And they 321 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,239 Speaker 1: were like this guy, like he's a terrible person. He 322 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: loves war, he loves war. But wait a minute, I mean, 323 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: look at what we're doing right now. We're funding a war, 324 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: funding a war. We're not negotiating, we're not trying a 325 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: diplomatic method of peace. We continuously fund sending bombs over there, 326 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: to the point now where they think it's so cool 327 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: that they're sending bombs over there. You got Josh Shapiro 328 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: signing the bombs, but I cannot get over the governor 329 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania signing bombs that will be dropped on people, 330 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: on women, on children, on families, on Holmes. I'm like, 331 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: what the hell is happening in this country that we have. 332 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: The Democrats have gone so far to the war machine 333 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: side that they're putting their names, the personal names on them, like, yay, 334 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: we're funding war. I mean there is. And that's the 335 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: thing that bothers me. Nobody's talking about the Democrats are 336 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: funding war and they're happy about it. Because you don't 337 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: sign your name to something unless I mean, it wasn't 338 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: like he didn't look like Aeriel. When Ursula was like 339 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: sign here, and she's like, oh, now, what did I do? 340 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: My dad? It's going to be so mad, you know. 341 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, I'll sign it with you a 342 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: little man and see certain sweatshirt and little cargo pants. 343 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean, what is happening? Well, the Democrats caused the 344 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: war and then they're funding it. So it's I mean 345 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: it's like a full cyclical thing here. They have created 346 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: the new military industrial complex. Yeah. 347 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: So the clip that you talked about was it was 348 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: a Yemeny major general who is in the Presidential Council 349 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: and he's doing a tour of America. He was the 350 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 2: You and General Assembly, and then he was in Buffalo, 351 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: and then he was in Detroit and Chicago and then 352 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 2: California or Dearborn, not Detroit, and he was making the 353 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 2: case that with Donald Trump, there was this policy of 354 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: firmness and Iran knew where the US stood and was 355 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: not going to, you know, play the sorts of games 356 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: that they are now. And when he said the name 357 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, the crowd, which is you know, ye many 358 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: people in America started chanting Trump. In Dearborn and this 359 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: this is why the Harris campaign is nervous about Michigan. 360 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 2: And but then when he but then he contrasted Trump's 361 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: position of firmness with the Biden Harris position of appeasement. 362 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: And he his point was, look at where appeasement has gotten. 363 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: You know that the Middle East is basically on fire 364 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: and getting worse by the day, and so, you know, 365 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: and I was sort of wondering, and I don't know 366 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: any about anything about any of this, but I sort 367 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: of wonder if Israel's doing what it's doing because they 368 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: anticipate Trump is going to win, and Iran and the 369 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: rest of them will not respond if Trump is president, 370 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: and so they're sort of getting in, you know, getting 371 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: their punches in now because then I think. 372 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: They also know they have over one hundred hostages that 373 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: these jerks will not give back. I mean, this is 374 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: crazy when you think we're coming up upon a year 375 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: now and these people. You see those pictures of that 376 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: baby Kafir and he's just trapped there with who knows 377 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: if his mother's even alive. I mean, I think if 378 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: it were our country, and I think, you know, if 379 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: you were the president of the United States and it's 380 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: a nine to eleven. But they took hostages. Man, I'd 381 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: never I'd never sleep until I knew those people were 382 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: home or or had some you know, finished to that story. 383 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: You know that the story of being a hostage was over. 384 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: And so I don't blame him. I think it's a 385 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: horrible situation because they will not release the hostages. They 386 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: continue to lose people. Israelis continue to lose people. But 387 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this one hundred percent 388 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: goes back to the fact that Iran has so much 389 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: darn money because Joe Biden took the the sanctions off 390 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: and Jade Vance did talk about that tonight, and I 391 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: was happy that he talked about that, because I think 392 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: it is important for people to understand that Donald Trump's 393 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: personality that whatever. I know, a lot of people don't 394 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: like his personality, but Donald Trump's personality was such that 395 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: people knew he meant business. And so when he put 396 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 1: those on, he said, you're not going to touch Israel. 397 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: You're not going to do this, But it wasn't. I 398 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: think the key point here is it wasn't just protecting Israel. 399 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: It was protecting Gaza too, because Gaza is run by 400 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: a terrorist regime. I don't think that the people want 401 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: to be under terrorist rule. I don't think that people 402 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: want to be in a constant state of war. But 403 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: they have some really bad guys at the helm of 404 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: the ship. The leadership there is I mean, they plan terror, 405 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: that's what they do. Not feeding them with endless amounts 406 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: of money kept those residents there safe. And when I 407 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: look at the way it's torn the state apart, our 408 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: state of Michigan apart, you know, for those people out 409 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: there who aren't here, it is really tearing people apart 410 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: because it's your family members. You know, they've got family 411 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: members on both sides. You've got people that have family members. 412 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: In Israel, You've got people that have family members, and Gaza. 413 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: We have people that have family members in Lebanon, and 414 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: it breaks my heart to think that this is happening. Well, 415 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: I think your point on Donald Trump and projecting strength. 416 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: When I looked at the debate, both the Kamala Trump 417 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: debate and then also JD Tonight with Tim Walls, JD 418 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: was comfortable, he was strong, and Tim Walls just seemed 419 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: totally weak and deferential to whatever the moderators were going 420 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: to do, probably because he was taking their he was 421 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 1: looking to them for yeah, but I couldn't see it. 422 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: He had this I mean, he looked like Joe Biden 423 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: at points actually with that blank stare he gave. But 424 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: if I am negotiating something in a room, tim Walls 425 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: did not give off any sort of what you notice. 426 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: He kept saying like, oh, I don't know the federal 427 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: rules because I'm a governor, so I know what it's like. 428 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 1: It's very odd he was a congressman, yes, but I'm 429 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: also like, you're running for federal office, so don't you 430 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: think you'd maybe like brush up by this stuff before 431 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: you like know the job you're interviewing for. Dude, Like, 432 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: I was like, he clearly thinks he's staying the governor. 433 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: He's just like, yeah, I don't know that. In halfway through, righty, 434 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm like he's like, you know, make sure you guys 435 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: still like me in Minnesota. I mean, it was just 436 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: very that Timmy was very weird. But I actually appreciated 437 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: the fact that, I mean he had sometimes that weird 438 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: blank stare. It was like his way of listening. I 439 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: think that if that's how he listened to me, as 440 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: his wife would probably be like what shut your mouth 441 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: when you're looking at when I'm talking, you know, like 442 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: he was just staring like but his mouth was hanging 443 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: open a little. But I think he was genuinely listening. 444 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: I think so too. It just wasn't like coached for 445 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: camera that he needed. It was now, it was not 446 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: a good look, but it was a listen I believed. 447 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: I believed it. Kamala Harris was rude on the debate stage, 448 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: and I just thought the difference was stark, the difference 449 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: between the way they interacted to the way Vanson Walls 450 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: interacted because although he was the low goofy, I do 451 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: think he was genuine and he was paying attention and 452 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: he wasn't like, oh, you're an idiot. And they were 453 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: very very very very kind to you, like they're both 454 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: Midwestern guys. It was a very Midwestern debate, like Midwest 455 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: nice through and through, whereas you had California versus New 456 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: York obviously with Kamala and Donald Trump. But I did 457 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: I actually really liked that and the mics are on. 458 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: I liked that they had back and forth and like jd. 459 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: Vance asked him questions and instead of Tim Walls just 460 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: like totally writing him off, they actually kind of answered 461 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: each other back and forth, which I thought it was nice. 462 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: They truly did debate on policy, and they had some 463 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: areas where they agreed too, which I just feel like 464 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: we haven't seen that in the last three cycles. I mean, 465 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: maybe more than that. 466 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: But and they may not have agreed on the policy, 467 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 2: but they respected where each other was coming from. And 468 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: I personally, I've never really I mean, I've seen sort 469 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: of the weird mannerisms and stuff those videos that you know, 470 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 2: as they had been circulating about walls. I personally I 471 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 2: liked him. I think he's a communist sympathizer. 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Stay tuned 499 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: for more after this. I think it was a moment 500 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: where you could see truly that Republicans and Democrats are 501 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: not so far apart. There are some radical issues out there, 502 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: but they were like, Okay, I could meet you halfway here, 503 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: I can meet you halfway there. And I just thought 504 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: that you have someone in Kamala Harris who wasn't willing 505 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: to say that. 506 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: And well, I think her role, her mission was to 507 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: antagonize Trump, to get him to react and be rude 508 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: and insulting. That was her mission. Should that be a 509 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: president's mission to do something like that? 510 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: It was goofy, It was childish, and it seemed very 511 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 1: much like it was it was a way to not 512 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: be held accountable for your own actions. And I felt 513 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: like that was the most embarrassing display was to see. 514 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: You know, we've seen, we've seen, I mean, we saw 515 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. And I really thought that Kamala Harris was 516 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: more embarrassing because Joe Biden I could at least excuse 517 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: away and say, I mean, the guy's old, he's obviously 518 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: lost some of his marbles, and he's not. I mean, 519 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, he had an excuse. She was just a baby, 520 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: And I think she was really acting like that because 521 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: she knew my gosh, if they actually have to talk 522 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: to me, I can't talk about this stuff. And somebody 523 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: who's telling me the other day, they're like, you know, 524 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: there are politicians who really get it, like they have 525 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: learned everything they can and they and I think Trump 526 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: is that person. I think we saw that with Jade 527 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: Vance tonight, that they have really studied what the job 528 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: is and they can talk about all different things. And 529 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: then there are people who do a great three minute 530 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: hit on the news, you know, and then past those 531 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: three minutes, it's like, you know, you pull a string 532 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: on the doll and it says it's thing, and then 533 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: it's done. You know, you have to pull the string 534 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: to get another talking point out. I think that's Kamala Harris. 535 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: I don't think she has a much I don't think 536 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: she has much depth. And I don't think Tim Walls 537 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: could go into much depth because the campaign in general 538 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: general doesn't have much depth. But I think he told 539 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: us a lot about what he felt and what he thought. 540 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: I think in the styles you can see that Tim 541 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: Walls at least was more inquisitive than Kamala Harris. Like 542 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: she to your point, she has her talking points, She's 543 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: not going to engage in a back and forth, whereas 544 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: Tim Walls actually seemed to moderately open into having the 545 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: back and forth, which I'm sure the campaign he's not 546 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: allowed to do that, and he's not allowed to do interviews, 547 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: so you don't see any of that, right. I don't 548 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: think this debate tonight was about actually learning policy. I 549 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: think that there was policy discussed, and I think for 550 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: the American people who don't get involved in policy discussions 551 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: every day, I think that was probably somewhat of a 552 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: treat because I do think it's rare nowadays to see 553 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: politicians truly engage in policy in the way that they did. 554 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: I just thought it was kind of a nice throwback 555 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: to real debating. But I think it was more about 556 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: getting to know these guys. And I think that jd. 557 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: Vance did a great job of saying, this is who 558 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: I am, this is where I come from. But he 559 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: started it out like that, and I was like, oh, 560 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: that's interesting. But it worked. And then Tim Walls was 561 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: kind of hiding who he was because there's a lot 562 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: of stuff that he didn't want to tell you. You know, 563 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: he didn't want to talk about his service, he didn't 564 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: want to talk about his dedication to China, and so 565 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: I think that at the end of the day, we 566 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: got to know that Jade Vance would be a phenomenal 567 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: vice president and potentially has the opportunity to do more 568 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: and maybe go on to lead US president one day. 569 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: And Tim Walls doesn't fully understand the job he's interviewing for, 570 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: but he's got a good smile when he goes out 571 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: on the campaign. 572 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: Trail and a vigorous wave. 573 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, great, high kick. 574 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen that. 575 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,239 Speaker 1: Oh I will show you seriously. Yeah, he always he 576 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: does the little kick thing. He like holds his hands 577 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: up and he does a kick. Oh yeah, normal, don't 578 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: give me wrong. Well, all in all, I think, I mean, 579 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: I actually I was dreading the long sitting and listening 580 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: to the debate because I'm like, oh, gosh, it's going 581 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: to be boreding. But it wasn't boring. It was actually 582 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: very interesting. I thought it was thought it was great 583 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: for all for all of us people who are in 584 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: the political world, just like the super Bowl, you know, 585 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: and this is like with a playoff game. Watching the 586 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: VP debate, you're like, oh, this is like, this is 587 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: the moment to hear what they have to say, and 588 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: I thought it was fun. When Kyle and I were 589 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: walking in, I said, maybe this makes me a total nerd, 590 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: but I like thoroughly was like that was made for 591 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: TV for me. 592 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: There's a lot of debates you're counting the minutes until 593 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: it's over, and that one it was. I thought it 594 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: was pleasant and good. 595 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is our instant take on it. I 596 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: mean we literally got finished, well, we finished watching it, 597 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: and then for a few seconds we listened to people's commentary. 598 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: But then Kyle got very crabby and was like, just 599 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: turn it off. We have our own opinion. So you 600 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: got to hear fresh true. 601 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: Fact check true. 602 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought we weren't fact checking. 603 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: During this no fact check myself. Actually, I guess that 604 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: was you. 605 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: Well, thank you all for hanging around for our analysis 606 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: of the debate. As always, this is the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 607 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 608 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: or wherever you find your podcast and join in next 609 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Thank you and have 610 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: a blessed day.