1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast movie will be opening and 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm act and free. D Welcome back to another edition 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: of the Around the League Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: and I'm joined by a room filled with some heroes. 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal and like what the man, the myth, 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: the legend, a body card out of Marvel itself? Ridiculous. 7 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Patrack coming at you? How about it? What a thanks? Dan? 8 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: This is the smoke in the leat a little bit much. 9 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: I might have overexaggerated Kevin's physique now that he's in 10 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: the flesh, but it's still nice. It's a He's a 11 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: well built man. Greig was very critical of Greg's physique 12 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: a few shows ago. Greg, here you are inches away 13 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: from your employ how would you assess his physical appearance? 14 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: It's normal. He's a normal guy in his in his 15 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: twenties upper How old are you? There we go? How 16 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: you doing? Guess I'm doing great. I'm glad to be 17 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: in studio first after all that, Oh there, what it 18 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: did get strange some of the build up when you 19 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: were listening. I'm sure you've been objectified. Well. Dan likes 20 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: to talk about how how we're all looking I've noticed that. 21 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean he he likes to make put you feel 22 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: should be flattered Dan, maybe deflecting from maybe our judgments 23 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: about his uh outrageously you know, your wardrobe, which is 24 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: beyond critique, and your physical appearances. That's what this has 25 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: all been all about, this whole time. Deflection, deflection, the 26 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: master and art of deflection. Very good show here, very 27 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: nice show with Kevin Patro with us is four of us. 28 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna get Chris Wesling, of course, our man missing 29 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: in action in Cincinnati through the end of the week, 30 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: but we're gonna get him on the horn to do 31 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: some uh some talk work. This is a term that 32 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: they use in the industry. Not really, I made that 33 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: up just now, but he's going to talk to us 34 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: about We're gonna continue our preview of training camp. We 35 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: did the a f C last week with Bucky Brooks. Uh. 36 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: Today we're gonna do the NFC East and West and 37 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: that's when we'll have West involved. And also we're gonna 38 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: get into the news because I don't know about you guys, 39 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 1: but today, Wednesday feels to me like the first day 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: where it is on we are back to work. The 41 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: NFL is alive and well, there was more news today 42 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: then there seemed to be in the last three weeks combined. 43 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: At least there's more. There's gonna be more news this 44 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: week than the last three or four months combined. And 45 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: if your news junkies, which you probably are, if you're 46 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: listening to us, or if you're us, you know that's 47 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: our jobs. It's much more fun to write about actual 48 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: things than trying to make us story out of some 49 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: bogus comment in the middle of May or like post 50 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: about Eli Manning telling us that his ankles on the 51 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: mid we've been barraged with real items, or like the 52 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: fiftieth post about Adrian Peterson ambling out of the backfield 53 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: this season as a major targe. Um, yeah, there are 54 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: signs and you know, just to take you inside the bubble, 55 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: you know that you know things are changing. When I 56 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: was leaving the office of the other day, Marshall Fox 57 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: pulled into the office, you got out of his car, 58 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: gave me a dismissive look, But that just meant that 59 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: Marshall Fox back, he's in the mix. Yeah, you know, 60 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: whenever he's doing that. And Charlie Casserly seated behind us 61 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: on the phone today. Yeah, talking like a roaring twenties newspaperman. 62 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean we we made a whole news rundown for 63 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: the show, and then it kept changing because the news 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: kept changing. Yeah, so why don't we get into news? 65 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: And we have to bring in the great t d 66 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: our producer. How are you buddy? Mr black Tie? What's 67 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: going on? Guys? Are you guys doing? How does this look? 68 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: How does this? For some? It looks pretty cool? Patrick 69 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: being involved. Actually, it's funny me and Patrick close in age, 70 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: so show. I like his body language, you know, it 71 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: was getting up shirt. It was a body language expert. 72 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: But about you know of you guys right now. But 73 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: he's just because you can relate to his thoughts because 74 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: you're also in your late twenties or upper twenties. Do 75 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: you feel like you can't relate to us because we're 76 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: so not at all I'm saying, that's what exactly what 77 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: he's saying. That's more of a connection, That's all it is. 78 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: You know, I'm more of a bridge here. All right, whatever, 79 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: let's do some news, just get it. What was that 80 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: was that? That was my man Caesar from Planet the Gaps, 81 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: the one movie in America two weeks running. So just 82 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: get listen. You can't all be home runs, you know, 83 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: summer schoppers. The short turned into double place, and I 84 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: just had to come up with something baseball analogy. Um, 85 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: all right, let's start. Let's get some news going. Jamal Charles. 86 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: We are ready just speaking of what Greg was saying, 87 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: how things were constantly changing downstairs in the newsroom. We 88 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: were ready to talk about Jamal Charles heading toward a 89 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: holdout or beginning to hold out with the Kansas City Chiefs. Instead, 90 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: he will be at camp. NFL media insider Ian Rappaport 91 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: broke the news Wednesday that the Kansas City Chiefs have 92 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: struck a deal with their all pro running back, who 93 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: was on his way to attend training camp, according to 94 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: a source and formed of the players situation. Of course, 95 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: Charles has signed a six year, twenty eight million dollar 96 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: contract in two thousand ten, but was due just three 97 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: point six five million in two thousand fourteen, far below 98 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: market value for a player that was a huge part 99 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: of that offense last season. Now he's in camp, I 100 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: assumed they took care of him, made him more representatively 101 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: taking care of when judge against other running backs and 102 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: away we go, Yeah, and the well, the details rolled 103 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: in as we were actually just walking over here. It's 104 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: eighteen point one million in new money. And I think 105 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: the reason, you know, the holdout, if that ever was, 106 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: if ever, if there ever was, that lasted so briefly 107 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: because the Chiefs new all along. This guy came to 108 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: offseason you know, practices and sessions. He was a good teammate, 109 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: but he said I'm gonna hold out if I don't 110 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: get a new deal, that it was in the works. 111 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: I guess the only thing that's weird if you're if 112 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: you're on the Chiefs, you're Chiefs fans. They continue to 113 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: do nothing for Alex Smith. Well, teams talk with action, 114 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: not with their press conferences. Justin Houston wants a new contract. 115 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: Alex Smith wants a new contract, but they spoke here. 116 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: Jamal Charles technically didn't really need a new contract. He 117 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: was signed for a few more years. But he's the 118 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: best player on the team. To give him a little Yeah, 119 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, also Alex Smith, they did something 120 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: for Axim was they gave him his greatest weapon and 121 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: the guy that's the key to that offense. That's fair. 122 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he was an m VP candidate last season. Yeah, 123 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: of their offense going through him, and he'll get paid 124 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: in the top five now running backs after Adrian Peterson, 125 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy, Foster, D'angela Williams, these names, that he's better 126 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: than than most of these guys, maybe save all Day 127 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: in McCoy. He's right in that discussion, and he should 128 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: be with them, and he should get paid with them, 129 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: And I think the Chiefs knew that and they had 130 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: no choice blood to give him. But if you look 131 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: at the fine print, they're not really giving him that 132 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: much more. An extra five million over the next two years, 133 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: so that's two and a half extra per year. At 134 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: that point, he's gonna be twenty nine year old, and 135 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: that's generally when running backs are in more of a 136 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: year to year phase of their career. So it's a 137 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: very fair deal and it's good. Jamal Charles has been 138 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: one of the most underrated players in the league for 139 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: a while. When you say real quick, like Marshawn Lynch, 140 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: another guy that without him, the Seattle offense is completely 141 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: different and in a rapid unit. Without him, he he 142 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: holds out and gets just a little bit more himself. 143 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: It's It's really strange how these guys are just not respected. 144 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: But then all these teams want to become We are 145 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals and all the tiff. We want to become 146 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: Seattle's offense. So run heavy is in, but not paying 147 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: the running backs is not. The difference is the Chiefs 148 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: would stink with that Jamal Charles right, They may, they 149 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: may stink this year with him right, Marshawn Lynch doesn't 150 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: show up ever again, I think the Seahawks are fine. 151 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 1: He led them in passing, passing, receiving yards, I'm sorry, 152 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: and rushing yards what other players. No other player can 153 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: do that. Don't never apologize, Kevin Patrick. You know we 154 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: we stumbled constantly around these parts. Hey, the number four 155 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: overall pick in NFL Draft will not be available for 156 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: the first four games of the season. The Philadelphia Eagles 157 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: officially announced that offensive tackle Lane Johnson was suspended for 158 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: violating the NFL's policy performance enhancing substances. I recognize that's 159 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: that first sentence there. Why why bang? That is a 160 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal post, which you could find, by the way, 161 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: on nfl dot com Slash around the League all the 162 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: content you could ever hope for, including all the news 163 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: that's going on, so you should read to be educated 164 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: and use it for your friends to be impressed by you. 165 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: But yeah, so Lane Johnson out four games. We kind 166 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: of saw this coming, we got were there are reports 167 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: of it weeks ago, and now it's official. I don't 168 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: think it's a huge deal because they signed a very 169 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: good backup, Alan Barbera to uh contract extension this offseason. 170 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: They clearly have faith in him. The rest of their 171 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: offensive line has great continuity, might be the most talented 172 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: group in the league. It's right tackle. It's four games 173 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: the Eagles. To me, it's not gonna hurt them too much. 174 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: I could think of a few teams with players awaiting 175 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: suspensions where if if the result was four games, there 176 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: would be nothing but smiles. You can, if you can, 177 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: you can get out of September without it costing you much. 178 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: We've seen that before. I'm just kind of tired of 179 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: the guys blaming an accidental uh ingestion of whatever it is, 180 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: prescribed medication he said, and some mythical thing. The check. 181 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: At this point, everyone keeps getting suspended for the same thing. 182 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't check. Well, you think you'd know that. 183 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: I just don't believe it anymore. So you want you 184 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: want someone to have. In one of those statements released 185 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: by the team, I totally tried to juice up with 186 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: some awesome PD but they got the right day. Just 187 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: say I messed up. I think the guys that are 188 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: saying I just I messed up, they're pretty much admitting 189 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: that they tried. Would it be wise for league sources? Yeah, 190 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm just saying this to test west Ling upon his 191 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: return from the nether world wherever he's been lodged. I 192 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: like working with west so I would say, no, Well, 193 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: what about what about Patra here? I mean, Dan's always 194 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: talking about how Look I'm not pouting the table. I 195 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: was hanging around Dion Jordan for a bit. So I'll 196 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: ask you Kevin all Natra all natural protein shakes, you know, 197 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: Kevin Big Nats, Patra Sydney Rice's NFL career has come 198 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: to an abrupt conclusion. NFL media insider Ian Rappaport reported 199 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: Wednesday that Rice has decided to retire due to concussion concerns. 200 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: According to a source who has spoken with the wide 201 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: Receiver UM, Rice is just twenty seven years old. He 202 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: was a salary cap casualty in February. Seahawks had brought 203 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: him back in April and he was and be fighting 204 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: for a roster spot and a role in that offense. 205 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: Now no more Sydney Rice done with the NFL. Of 206 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: all the news in the last forty eight hours, this 207 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: was the most surprising to me. Maybe it's not the 208 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: biggest news, but a twenty seven year old who just 209 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago got a monster free agent deal, 210 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: probably the worst contract of the Pete Carroll era, may 211 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: be throwing Charlie Whitehurst as as an option there five years, 212 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: forty one million with the Seahawks in two after f 213 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: off his one good year, which was with the Brett 214 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: Farve in Minnesota in two thousand nine. Well, the problem 215 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: is he's twenty seven, but he has the lower body 216 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: of a forty seven year old man. But they're saying 217 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: this is good for concussions too, which is interesting because 218 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: that you know, he's coming off a torn a c 219 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: L but he's retiring because of concussions. To me, this 220 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: is also I mean, he might have just looked at 221 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: the rest of the guys now on that team and said, 222 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make this team. Not with my injury history, 223 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: not with what they're you're saying. I think I think 224 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: that he decided that wing stop was a better option 225 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: for him. Wait, staff, he's open to Wingstop. He's gonna 226 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: put all his subpar hot wings. I never heard of 227 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: franchise today. Yes, it's located on Venice in Culiver City. 228 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: Babyney Rice read uh an article that was produced on 229 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: Around the League on Sunday called six veterans on the 230 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: Bubble for training camp. Sydney Rice was on that list. 231 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: So Greg, you crushed his spirit and the career of 232 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: the promising young white receiver was really cool a few 233 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: years ago. He was such a big part of that offense. 234 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: You're right now, Paul Richardson. Yeah, even Jammin Curse as 235 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: the fourth receiver. Baldwin, I'm gonna say, I was going 236 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: to go to the opposite route to say, you got 237 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: Percy Harvin, who we're gonna assume is gonna stay healthy, 238 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: but he probably won't after that. I'm not going crazy 239 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: about that wide receiver group, but I don't know if 240 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: their offense is going to be explosive the season. They 241 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: have learned, you know, to live without. I mean that 242 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: he really never was a centerpiece in that offense. He's 243 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: been a guy that's just been a kind of a 244 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: ghost for years. Verdon Davis has reported to San Francisco 245 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: Fordia Honors training camp after skipping offseason practices and attempt 246 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: to leverage his absence into a new contract. Davis is 247 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: at camp on Wednesday. The same cannot be said for 248 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: Niners guard Alex Boone, who did not report the camp 249 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: and is still hoping to get a new deal himself himself. Obviously, 250 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: the Niners have some things to take care of. You 251 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: also have Michael Crabtree, who wants money. Um, this is 252 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: all Niners business. They're trying to work out. But they 253 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: have Davis, they don't have Boon. One thing that I 254 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: found instoring is Ian Rappaport reported that I'm sorry NFL 255 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: media inside reporting that part of the reason that part 256 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: of the reason that Davis showed up is because the 257 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: forty Niners only deal with people who are in the building. 258 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: So he still wants his money. But he said I'll 259 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: do a good faith. We're Boon did the exact oppostion. 260 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: He's holding out. So I mean, if they give Boon 261 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: a contract, which we were not sure they will anyway, 262 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: that's kind of counterintuitive. What the messages to Vernon Davis 263 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: showing Boon, by the way, just followed most of us 264 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: on Twitter, and so I I I hope that wasn't 265 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: a ploy to try to get us to start to 266 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: speak kindly about him. I'm I'm pulling for just forget 267 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: about that, I pull for him. I pull for Tyrese 268 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: who follows everyone on Twitter? Is it Tyrese? Not that simple? Dan, 269 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: you can't just be the tyres that's following everyone on 270 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: Twitter right now at tag. Thank you t D for 271 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: filling me in on that digs I'm in on him. 272 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: Feel free to edit that whole part out so we 273 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: got you know. I'm I'm behind them. But Alex Boon 274 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: is an important part of that line. He's played sixteen 275 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: games both the last two years, started all the postseason games. 276 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of depth there, but we'll see. 277 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: This could have some legs though, because it doesn't sound 278 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: like the Niners are gonna play ball with him if 279 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: he's not at the camp for doing a winners and 280 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: Losers from early training camp. You know, losers would be 281 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: people that are fans of holdouts, right, I mean all 282 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: we got right now is Alex Boone like Charles is in. 283 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: I don't think Andre Johnson's gonna last that swarming massive 284 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: football fans cannot get enough hold out at right I mean, 285 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: if the best we can do, the worst right now 286 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: is Alex Boon. Not too exciting, Uh, Some bummer news 287 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: at a Denver owner Pat Bowland has resigning control of 288 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: the Broncos, acknowledging that he is suffering from Alzheimer's disease. 289 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: Team president Joe Ellis will assume control of the organization 290 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: as Bowland concentrates on his health. Bowland has been a 291 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: wildly successful owner in the NFL since purchasing the team 292 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: and saving it for bankruptcy. The Broncos have gone to 293 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and six of sixteen playoff appearances, of course, 294 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl in so Pat Bowling out of 295 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: the picture and Joe Ellis and John Elway are running 296 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: the show officially well. Wesleyan wrote an outstanding piece on 297 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: Bowling at around two twelve am in the morning. And 298 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know about you guys, but I 299 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: I latched onto football in the mid eighties, right when 300 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: Bowland was coming to power in Denver and I think 301 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: most Kevin Patrack emerged from the womb. So when I 302 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: say you guys, you were not a guy at that point. 303 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: You were a small boy, a toddler. As I go, 304 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: I will never forget, you know, as a Browns fan. 305 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: A Denver did not do kinds of things to kind 306 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: things to Cleveland's fan base. But Pat Bowland always up 307 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: in the press box with a flowing first shawl over 308 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: his shoulders and sunglasses. He was definitely the coolest looking owner. 309 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: We often talk about who's today's most attractive owner. We 310 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: sometimes talk about that not often Bowling back in the 311 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: day might have qualified Davis, you know, pretty cool before 312 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: he was very influential, very key in terms of like 313 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: the TV deals. One of those owners that kind of 314 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: came into the mix in the mid eighties. But was 315 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: that new group of owners that started to take over 316 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: the league unbelievably successful. Only the forty Niners have won 317 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: more games. Uh, since Boland's in there. And you just 318 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: had the all you need to know about Pat Bowland 319 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: and his impact was to watch Joe Ellis and John 320 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: Elway speak about him today. John Elway was very emotional 321 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: crying about it. And if you think how they're those 322 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: two men in their careers us side by side. He 323 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: brought John Elway up as a player and then he 324 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: brings them back as an executive in the Arena League. 325 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: And now it's a tough day for the organization. Rob 326 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: Gronkowski is ready to practice. Patriots coach Bill Belichick announced 327 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: Wednesday that the tight end has already been medically cleared 328 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: to play and will avoid the physically unable to perform list. 329 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: Here's a quote from Belichick. Rob's always worked hard. He 330 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: worked hard as a rookie. When he's here, what we've 331 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: seen is he's been consistent. God brother. Uh So. NFL 332 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: Media's Albert Brier had reported, of course, in June that 333 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: Gronk was aiming for Week one returned from his a 334 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: c L surgery. That's looking real good right now, Get excited. 335 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: Put him in. It's not too late to adjust your 336 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: top ten players in the NFL list that we did 337 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: a month ago and put Gronk in there. Well, it's 338 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: too late last month, but uh, I mean, Brady is 339 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: a totally different quarterback with with Gronkowski in that offense. Absolutely, 340 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: as I think west side in the PC road this 341 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: morning when it was like three am this morning's Gronks 342 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: there and he's Andy Dalton when he's not Andy Dalton stuff. Okay, 343 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: we're talking in terms of he absolutely blows up when 344 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: when Gronks in that lineup, and who else at this 345 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: point one year later would you point to and say 346 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: that's your go to guy when Gronk's not in there? Well, 347 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: there is. There isn't one Julian Edelman and that's as 348 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: you're right of of non quarterbacks. I think he's the 349 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: most valuable offensive player in the NFL when he's healthy. 350 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: And this is a fascinating little news, you know, news 351 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: nugget for the future segment coming up for the Run 352 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: League podcast when we do our fantasy extravaganza where you 353 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna have Rhoto World studs like Chris Westling and 354 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: of course Greg Rosenthal, Mark sssor will be involved as well, 355 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: and I will be taking uh So we're gonna talk 356 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: about what where is Gronk now in the fantasy world? 357 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: Is the first round pick? All that kind of fun 358 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: stuff you seem to take exception with. But when I 359 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: would argue that Megatron or j J what would be 360 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: right up there with that offensive but Megatron would be 361 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: the other logical one. But I said, when healthy, Yeah, 362 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: I think Gronkowski adds more. You think he adds more 363 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: than Megatron. I do not to go down to world 364 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: in terms of defensive coaches and changing what you do 365 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: and you don't know if he's blocking, and it just 366 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: changes entirely. Yes, I think, how do you take Gronk 367 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: with your number one pick if you're sitting fifth or six, 368 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: and then four weeks and he's gone like he has 369 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: every season. You know what's crazy is that Noah's It's 370 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: it is. It is just based on what history has 371 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: told us. The guy does not stay healthy. You know 372 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: what history tells us. We work at the NFL, Mark, 373 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, we want these players to stay healthy. Just 374 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: to spend some fantasy advice. Much to the chagrin of 375 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: Dan over Here, I would not gamble a high first 376 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: round pick on ground he's pitching himself for that episode. 377 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: The All right, let's do some and Mark Sessler, let's 378 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: do some Cleveland Brown's talk. You are a factory up. 379 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns don't yet know who they're starting quarterback 380 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: will be in week one. We do know that they 381 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: have a timetable now to make that decision. Brown's coach 382 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: Mike Petton told reporters at team headquarters on Monday that 383 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: a starting QB will be named by the third week 384 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: of the preseason and perhaps before that. This is from Petton, 385 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: A decision could be sooner and that's something we're going 386 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: to discuss in the meeting, a meeting of course with 387 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator. It will be before 388 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: the third season game. It will be before the third 389 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: preseason game. I just don't have a date. Um other 390 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: news that came out of Petton's availability, Josh Gordon will 391 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: not be going anywhere. This will make Mark Happy, who 392 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: was stating this case that there's no reason to cut 393 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: ties with Gordon, who of course is facing a suspension 394 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: and as coming off a d u I arrest. Where 395 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: firm we want to find that middle ground, Petton said, 396 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: we want to do what's best for him. So two 397 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: big nuggets from Petton on Monday. I mean, I guess 398 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: Gordon's a no brainer for me, that you there's no 399 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: reason you're not paying him any money if he gets 400 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: to spend it. But secondly, the quarterback thing, I hate 401 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: those announcements, uh for me, the takeaway might be that 402 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: there is this internal feeling there's a lot of room 403 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: for either quarterback to win it. But Hoyer, just they're 404 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: angling at him, is sort of the safe guy to 405 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: roll out in Week one, against which he is he 406 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: is in theory. I mean, we don't know that much 407 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: about it. Do you think this announcement tells us something 408 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: about which one starting? I think he was asked the question, 409 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: and he grew up in a Jets organization that used 410 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: that week third, that third preseason game as ace. But 411 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: you know a lot of teams like to have their 412 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: quarterback in there for that third game. But I took 413 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: it as Brian Hoyer has a slight advantage here, and 414 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: I guess that's not even really going out on a limb, 415 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,239 Speaker 1: because everything the Browns have said is that Hoyer has 416 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: a real shot at this. And the way they put 417 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: that to me is if they want to get this 418 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: thing figured out, which by the way, is exactly one 419 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: month from today is the third preseason game, they must 420 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: have something in mind that they unless something changes, they're 421 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: gonna go down a certain path. That's how I read it. 422 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: I think Hawyer is the guy they want, and then 423 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: Manzel coming in after, but we'll see. I think the 424 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: timeline definitely tells you that because the more time Donnie 425 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: Manzel has on the field, I think that's when we're 426 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: gonna see how he's going to formulate his season. But 427 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: if he only has to two second half preseason games 428 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: against backup, backup defenses, that can't really tell us a 429 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: whole lot of how he's gonna play against a first 430 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: string off example Sid Brooks. But he also mentioned how 431 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: you win the jobs in practice in a month is 432 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: a long time. You're practicing twice a day for a month, 433 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: and you know, we don't need to guess. Jwyer is 434 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: going to start the first preseason game, assuming he's healthy, 435 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: and they'll let Manzel start the second one, and then 436 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: it'll come down I believe to Manziel having a great 437 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: month in practice, and then in that second game they'll 438 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: probably let him start it. And if he happens to 439 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: light the world on fire in that second game, then 440 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: maybe none of us will be shocked if Manziel is 441 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: the week one starter. But it's but this is an 442 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: interesting Chris Westley and he's eating the softball pants of 443 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: its time. Should feel a little worried. I don't care 444 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: what West says. He has to be internally very nervous 445 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: at this point that this thing is at best. I mean, 446 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: I'm nervous. I might have to find two A t L. Right, 447 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: he would die, certainly, because to think about it, it's 448 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: metal zipper, it's um composite parts, it's polyester, some elastic 449 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: in there and not good by the way, whatever in 450 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: soil it's been bathed in on the playing field or whatever, 451 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: harmful chemicals. Yes, not a good situation. Also one more 452 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: item on the Browns. Mike Patton also told reporters on 453 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: Monday that he did speak with Johnny Manziel about his 454 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: as Mark puts it in his A t L post 455 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: quote string of offseason adventures, and Patton specifically pointed to 456 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: a photo of Manziel rolling a twenty dollar bill at 457 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: a bathroom sink and discussed that. And here's a quote. 458 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to get into a public discussion of 459 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: of every picture that comes out, but I talked to 460 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: him about it. I don't want to get into a 461 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: public discussion about this one because I want to keep 462 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: my job. Listen, he talked about it, So you want 463 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: to add another Brown's nugget that I just saw pop 464 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: up here and give a little plug. Mark Sessler and 465 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: team have been doing a pup tracker Who's not ready 466 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: for the startup training camp in the non football injury 467 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: list Terence West of the Cleveland Browns not ready for 468 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: training camp. So that gives a little leg up to 469 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: Bent a little bit of a surprise. You have a 470 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: hot take, by the way today, I do actually speaking 471 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: of nuggets, guess what Sydney Rice is getting into now 472 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: that he's done with his football? What wing stop? This 473 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: is awkward. Clearly TD was not listening to us talk 474 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: about stop at length. That is devastating. We are even 475 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: Stevens for the Tyree's thing that gave the address I like. 476 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: Also is that came a good fort teen minutes after 477 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: the Sydney Rice Feel free to enter, but really because 478 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: I love it. It's got a set, all right. My 479 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: question was, Okay, you're gonna you guys are going to 480 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: start off a chain chain? Would that be? What's your favorite? 481 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: Like fast food slash wink spot. I'd go Popeye's. Never disappointed. 482 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: Going to Popeye's Fried chicken always makes me happy. Popeyes, 483 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: I'd go bottled water in wine. I would also invest 484 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: in Sessler's bottled water and wine factory. Might would have 485 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: to be a tie type players. There's no you're gonna 486 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: create your own one. I would just gonna get a friend. 487 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: I would be simpler. I would actually open a good 488 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: pizzeria in California and then watch the revenue poor in 489 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: because the pizzas here's terrible. Finally, thanks, hey, when I 490 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: played stickball on the stoop, an't you? I don't know, 491 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: by the way. On one last news item, weird Al 492 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: Yankovic had his first number one album ever, number one 493 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: on the Billboard Charts, A mandatory fund. As I walked 494 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: thro this is my favorite weird alfing, I take a 495 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: look at my wife and realize very comish paradise favorite 496 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: weird Also things like nobody has one. I'm trying to 497 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: eat it like a surgeon, smells like Nirvana, white nerdy, 498 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: word crimes nothing I did like the word climbs. I 499 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: think eat. It was when I first when weird Al 500 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: first hit my radar big time, and that I was 501 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: a long time ago. This was number one. That's that's 502 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: their ability. I do remember on the roller rink holding 503 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: a girl's hand going around. Wo you were on a 504 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: roller rink hold in hand? He didn't you have those 505 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: in grade school? Yeah? We we had out Amish Paradise 506 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: was the romantic song that you did? Well? We just 507 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: told hands the whole time. Man, We actually had a 508 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: roller rink slash laser tag. Yeah, we have at the nineties. 509 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: Were a strange place. Kids is like a fun thing. 510 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: Oh hey, let's go do the roller rink laser tag 511 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: place tonight. Sounds like it was for some reason the 512 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: comment and then the arcade. It was like, yeah, that's 513 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: my future. All right, so let's move on, gentlemen, that's 514 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: what's happening. Yes to Mark Charles, new contract from producer, 515 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: not listening to the show. All right, let's it's awesome. 516 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: Let's move forward to our training camp preview series. We 517 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: did the a f C. As I said earlier with 518 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. Now we're gonna get to the NFC. We're 519 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: gonna split it the two parts, two divisions. On Wednesday show, 520 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: we'll be back, as we said, we're back to three 521 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: shows a week. On Thursday's show, we're gonna do two 522 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: more divisions. So let's start with the NFC East and 523 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,239 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler you wrote up the piece on nfl dot 524 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: com slash what is it? Train camp preview? What's the 525 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: vanity earl? You're gonna have to just start learning these 526 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: can't just get that right? Is that correct? Though? Yeah? Okay? Good? 527 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: So you could read all the training camp previews there. 528 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: Mark you wrote on the nfc ET So why don't 529 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: we start with the Dallas Cowboys Three things to watch? 530 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: Throw one at us? I think for me, you know 531 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: that defense was such a disaster last year. You've got 532 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: a secondary that's vastly overpaid. When you look at what 533 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: Brandon Carr did and uh Shaun Lee out for the year. 534 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: How do you fill in these spots? How do you? 535 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess for him, they look at they 536 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: look at Justin Duran is the guy right out of 537 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: the gate in the summer. But that's an uninspiring veteran 538 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: who can't do anything like Lee can in terms of 539 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: pass coverage from the middle of the field. What how 540 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: do you solve these problems heading into the season. Dallas 541 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: is no better on defense. No, they talk about how 542 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: Rod Marinell is going to come in and he's getting 543 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: the defense and ship shape. They're running the same defense. 544 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: And the reason they were terrible last year was not 545 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: holy because of the scheme. It was because their players 546 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: were terrible. And they have the same terrible players minus 547 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: their best one. So I don't see getting any better 548 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: on the defensive. Someone that covers the Cowboys closely, Todd Archer, 549 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: who I like a lot as a writer, said that 550 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: Barry Church, and he wasn't trying to make a joke. 551 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: He said, Barry Church right now is the most reliable 552 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: player on the defense. He's the best, He's the best 553 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: player in the defense. You're not going anywhere with Barry 554 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: Church is the best player on your defense, and it's 555 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: a disaster. I don't know what the coaching can do, 556 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: like it can help, but maybe Monty Kiffin got blamed 557 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: a little too much. It's more on the personnel. The 558 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: only other thing. I mean, you know, Dallas is one 559 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: of the tougher teams to find position battles for all 560 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: over the place because they haven't seen is much change. 561 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: But Tony Romo back injury. We assume he's healthy, but 562 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: that team, I think the win lost total is an 563 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: absolute huge swing. If suddenly he's not available, they are 564 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: potentially a two three win team. If you replace Tony 565 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: Romo with Brandon Weedon, do we agree? Oh? Absolutely? I 566 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: mean that would be the camp battle to watch. Is 567 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: Brandon We didn't gonna be the backup and if he is, 568 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: what happens when Tony Romo's back acts up. We hope 569 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen, but they they've left themselves vulnerable. Greg, 570 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: you were we were talking about downstairs in the newsroom 571 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: who had the worst backup situation. You seem to think 572 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: that we didn't is not the worst backup? No, well, 573 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: I thought the challenge it really comes down to Chicago, 574 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: which has a Jordan's Palmer Jimmy Clawson face off? And 575 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: what was the other you picked? Buffalo Buffalo. Yeah, I 576 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: think that's pretty much Jeff Lewis and Jeff Toole. I'm 577 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: taking Weedon over either. Those guys's had some okay moments. 578 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: Weed was okay as a rookie guinea preak. And by 579 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: the way, Assessor, we're even for my fantasy needle on 580 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: you because you referenced my four thousand yard thirty touchdown. Brandon, 581 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: we didn't prediction from last summer here. I did not 582 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: mention you by name to keep your dignity intact. But 583 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: that was a low point in terms of podcast predictions. 584 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: I would say that's probably accurate. How about the New 585 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: York Giants for me? With the Giants, you know, they 586 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: went out and they got Rashad Jennings, who you know, 587 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: he's never blown the doors off and he's never really 588 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: carried the load for a team season long. But that's 589 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: what in theory they thought he could do with David 590 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: Wilson maybe out for the year. But then suddenly David 591 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: Wilson is back, and you've also got Andrew Williams, and 592 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: there have been reports saying that this may be a 593 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: three headed backfield, that what they're trying to do is 594 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: keep Jennings fresh and healthy for later parts of games. 595 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: That tells me you don't have one guy that can 596 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: do it, but Wilson makes us an intrigue in backfield. 597 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: What you didn't even mention your boy, the former Madden 598 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: cover boy. See, I think that the greatest thing that 599 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: the Giants done. What they've done is paved the road 600 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: to not have to put that plotting disaster out on 601 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: the field. What another human being a plotting disaster? Well 602 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: he was? That was how you go, Oh, in six 603 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: in New York is to have that be your lead 604 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: skilled position out of the backfield. The other skip the 605 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: other six teams. It's over. That might have been the 606 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: cruelest thing we've ever said about any player on this 607 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: podcast before. Yeah, you see about each other all the time. 608 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: But that's bad you all three of you disagree with 609 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: me somebody. I don't think that that he had was 610 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: running like he had an ice sled on his back, 611 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know that that. What Cessler said was 612 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: that any other things to watch out of the New 613 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: York Not a single thing. All right, Let's move out 614 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia Eagles and the mastermind, Chip Kelly, who 615 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: probably has something planned where maybe guys are on those 616 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: disks and they're floating and they're wearing long grade garbs, 617 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: and he has something figured out because he's ahead of 618 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: the game. For me, the Eagles question, and it's going 619 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: to be hard to know this some of these, you know, 620 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: Greg always points out it's hard to know in training 621 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: camp and preseason how this is going to shake out. 622 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: But you remove a guy like de Sean Jackson and 623 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: you have Jordan Matthews who's potentially going to start as 624 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: a slob receiver. At least see a lot of action. 625 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: You've got Darren Sprawls and they think a lot of 626 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: zach Ertz. I'll want to see just how the offense changes, 627 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: but how you make up for the production of a 628 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: Jackson who's now gone. Yeah, and Matthews got so much hype. 629 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: I tend not to pay too much attention to veterans, 630 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: but rookies, this is where they earn their playing time. 631 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Matthews has a big preseason, a big training camp. 632 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: He's going to be on the field a lot. If 633 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: he's not ready for it, we'll start hearing about it 634 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,479 Speaker 1: every day because he is that guy that the writers 635 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: are gonna be talking about each day. I'm actually interested 636 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: to see what Mark Sanchez is looking on at Chip Kelly. 637 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a good gauge of how 638 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: good a coach they Chip Kelly is and and how 639 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: good that offense is. If he makes Mark Sanchez look 640 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: like a good quarterback in the preseason, boom, that's a 641 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: great backup quarterback battle. Barkley versus Santis. There is there 642 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: is a nightmares, an ultimate nightmare scenario my brain where 643 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly the Great and untouchable. Chip Kelly, it's a 644 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: new sound drop from CD. Um takes Mark Sanchez under 645 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: his big beefy wing, teaches him how to be a quarterback. 646 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: Nick Foles abruptly retires. Mark Sanchez leads the Eagles to 647 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I probably kill myself if that happens. 648 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: Go to heaven and then every coach is using remote 649 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: control cars on the field after that, and then that happens. Yes, 650 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: anything else with the Eagles, Mark, Let's move on. You're 651 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: really looking through. Finally the Washington Redskins. This is one 652 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: where for me I'm looking more. I want to see 653 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: how one player has grown from what we saw last season. 654 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 1: More so than position battles, what Redskins defense is another 655 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: real ugly, ugly unit. But r G three, you know, 656 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: we all this hype about him being the comeback player 657 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: of the year, which I don't think it's hype. I 658 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: think it's a fair estimation. Leslie is all but guaranteed it. 659 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: He has guaranteed it. But I think he's done that 660 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: because is we had no read of who RG three 661 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: was last season. He wasn't the same guy. Gruden was 662 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: brought in I think to make him a more complete quarterback, 663 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: not just a running quarterback. But Gruden's talked about a 664 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: play book that's going to emerge what Kyle Shanahan did 665 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: with him in terms of pistol and on the ground 666 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: a little bit, and Gruden's West Coast stuff. Really though, 667 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: is group we want to see if RG three can 668 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: do it from the pocket right And there's not a 669 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: lot of spots open on this offense. I mean, it's 670 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: so stacked. Andre Roberts gonna be their third receiver, garsone, Jackson, Santana. 671 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: Moss is trying to keep his NFL career going, but 672 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: you can kind of roll out this starting group right now. 673 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna stop him in NCAS. I 674 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 1: typically don't buy into getting to invest in preseason games, 675 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: but I will be interested to see how they even 676 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: use r G three just as a test ground to 677 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: see if they're gonna him roll out a lot and 678 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: see how he's moving without that brace on. Now. It 679 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: should be interesting to see. This is more of a 680 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: regular season thing, but I do want to see how 681 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: this combination works out. Jim has still coaching the defense 682 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: with this combination of characters, D'Angelo Hall, Brandon Merryweather, Ryan Clark, 683 00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: Tracy Porter, Bakari Rambo Egypt. That's an awful secondary. It 684 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: is terrible. That's that's ugly. And they they couldn't tackle 685 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 1: last year either. And but I wonder if Jim haslet's 686 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: gonna change it, if he convinced Jay Gruden one reason 687 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: he stays that he's gonna do something different now that 688 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: Mike Chanahan and his iron fist isn't hanging over him 689 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: the whole time. I think it's just that they work together. 690 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: It feels like someone owed someone a favorite. Well has Yeah? 691 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: Has it worked for him in the Arena League? They 692 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: go back way back? All right? Now we're gonna get 693 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: him on the line. Let's get the great Chris Westling 694 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: the mail man, to talk about our NFC West training 695 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: camp preview. He wrote it up on our website and 696 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: now here. He is from Cincinnati West. From Cincinnati. What's 697 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: up by the boy? Much are you doing? Man? How 698 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: is everything going? How he feels it's been a lot 699 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: of days in a row over there? Yeah, I'm not 700 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: ready to get a nappin West. Very busy man this 701 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: morning writing around the league content. And I'm sure he's 702 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: gonna meet up with some some Ohio friends later to 703 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: continue his homecoming. Is that about accurate? Yes, it is 704 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: all right. So we're not gonna keep you too long. 705 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: You need your nap, You need to power up. Let's 706 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: talk about the NFC West. That will start with the 707 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. What's something big to watch out of Arizona. 708 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: I think John Brown, rookie wide receiver market wrote about 709 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: him a couple of times early in the off season. 710 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians seems to love him, compared him to t 711 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: Y Hilton's So I think, maybe see if he can 712 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: push check in for that number three receiver job and 713 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: what exactly his role will be. Do we buy the hype? 714 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: I mean, is it easy to make that kind of 715 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: a transition this early or is this someone that maybe 716 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: comes on later in the year. Well, they also have 717 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: other guys that are there, Ted gin Jr. They just signed. 718 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: They use Ellington out of the backfield a lot of course, 719 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: you have Floyd and Fitzgerald, so there's a lot of 720 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: there's a lot of targets in that offense. I would say, 721 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: if I'm playing fantasy football, I'm not buying the hype. 722 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 1: Smart Bruce Arians, though, is getting to that point where 723 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: we just sort of figure that Hill make magic where 724 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: other coaches wouldn't like normally, John Brown, I don't think 725 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: we would be getting this hype. But you just look 726 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: at what Arian's has done lately and t Y Hilton, 727 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: you start thinking, all right, maybe maybe it's legit. How 728 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: about the offensive line, west do you think, uh, they're 729 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 1: gonna figure out a team that's gonna keep Carson Palmer 730 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: clean and they'll be improved from last season. Well, I 731 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: think the left side will be much better. Jared Beldiers 732 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: and above Davidge left tackle, and Jonathan Cooper last year's 733 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: first round pick. Its slated for left guard. Questions are 734 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: right tackle and right guard, where both positions are kind 735 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: of up in the air this year. Jared Veldier, by 736 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: the way, looks like a outrageously pumped up carton too 737 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: cartoon character. I mean, have you seen have you seen you? 738 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: You go around saying that Patras cut out of stone 739 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: and that's not entirely untrue. It a small stone failed 740 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: here is I mean Westley, we saw that photo last week. Yeah, 741 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: there's a photo floating around the internet where somebody basically 742 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: colored in Beldier green to it. Can look like the 743 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: incredible Hulks. All right, so Vlder's body doesn't quit. Let's 744 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: move on to the San Francisco forty Niners. Obviously a 745 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: team that seems, you know, pretty well set. But what 746 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: do we what can we see in training camp? Well, 747 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: we know now that Vernon Davis has shown up. Uh, 748 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: I guess the next question is what's gonna happen with 749 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: Alex Boone, the right card who was looking for a 750 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: new conference. Do you think they cave on him? Like? 751 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: I can't see them making Alex Boone a priority when 752 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: you have Vernon Davis. You just gave all that money 753 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: to Kaepernick. If you're going to pay an offensive lineman, 754 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: to me, it makes more sense to go with the 755 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,959 Speaker 1: Patti you already paid Joe Staley. This is a rare 756 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: training camp hold out where there's not a logical ending 757 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: other than Boone just caving in and showing up, you know, 758 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: a week before the season starts. Yeah, Vernon Davis mentioned 759 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: today that he showed up because, Uh, the forty Niners 760 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: have a policy of not negotiating with anybody who's holding out, 761 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: So why would they do that for Alex Doone? I 762 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: don't know that that would surprise met. Uh, let me 763 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, West before we move on 764 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: to the Seahawks. Marcus Lattimore September one, on or off 765 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: the roster? Oh, I think you'll be on the roster, 766 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: on the injury September one. Yeah, let's say on the 767 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: active roster. Yeah, did he open up training camp on 768 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: pup He is on pupped to start it out or 769 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: non football injury list, so he's still not ready to 770 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: practice fully. But that we you know, we both know 771 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: that's not a huge deal to start camp. Well, it 772 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: does give them the option of keeping them on their 773 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: start to season. Right, Well, I'll change my answer and say, no, West, 774 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: this is just a hunch and I have no idea 775 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: if it's true enough. But are you laying on a 776 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: water bed right now? No, I'm not. He sounds a 777 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: little wistful. Yeah, I pick trum on a water bed 778 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: in the round with the leopard print bedspread, you know, 779 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: just with like a nice phone and just going you've 780 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: gone beyond where I went visually. But thank you. You're 781 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: confusing me with a kit in boomerang wo boomerang reference. 782 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: Nice underrated movie. Yes it is, uh, just how many 783 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 1: brothers are within a five mile radius of you, Chris 784 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: right now at the moment, Yeah, I would say three, okay, 785 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: that's not too many, but seven overall? Six overall, right, okay, frisky. 786 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: By the way, the first listener to tweet at me 787 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 1: or a t l the name of Imon's perfume in 788 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: Boomerang gets Brenda Warner's autobiography. I thought you're gonna say, 789 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: anyone that can name all seven, that's another one. And 790 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: by the way, I cannot pronounce the name of that 791 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: or I cannot say that perfume on a podcast air waves. 792 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the sea Attle Seahawks. 793 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: What jumps out to you about the Seattle Seahawks. Well, 794 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: I guess if we were waiting for Burning Davison. Now 795 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: it's studing contract situation Marshawn Lynch. Does he open up 796 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: that cannon warms again and start begging for a new contract. 797 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,479 Speaker 1: Do you think there's any chance like he leaves camp 798 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: or he doesn't show up, or I don't know if 799 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: that's going to be a major It seems like whenever 800 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: Ian NFL media in veteran Rappaport talked about Marshawn Lynch, 801 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 1: He hints strongly that Lynch is so unpredictable that nothing 802 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: would surprise. Hey, how about Sydney Rice he has announced 803 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: his retirement and or he's announcing his retirement. How do 804 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: you think the wide receiver group now shakes out with 805 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: him out of the mix. Well, I think Percy Harvon 806 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: and Douck Baldwin are locked into major rules, and then 807 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: second round pick Paul Richardson maybe as a wild card there, 808 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: especially with Rice out of the picture. A lot of 809 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: people very high on Richardson. It's kind of I think 810 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: Curs is an interesting receiver as well. It's a good 811 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: point that it feels like everyone is just assuming this 812 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,439 Speaker 1: second round pick Richardson is gonna step in right away 813 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: and have a factory. What is the hit rate on 814 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: second round wide receivers? And then what is the hit 815 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: rate during their rookie year? It has to be what 816 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: of guys go over hundred yeards? It's not probably you've 817 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 1: never watched Mohammed massaquas anywhere. Yeah, I think I think 818 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: Richardson is planning on contributing mostly on special teams. I 819 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 1: wonder if if Rice is a retirement changes that a 820 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: little bit. We'll see and finally the St. Louis Rams. 821 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm curious what your thoughts are West about the running 822 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: back situation. Is Zax they see going to be their 823 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: primary guy or what? This is one of those storylines 824 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: that popped up throughout the off season that we don't 825 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: know whether to make, whether it was fluff or the 826 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: real deal. How do you think this is gonna play out? 827 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: I think that whole competition thing is mostly coach speaks 828 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 1: that Stacy is the early down back, and then Jeff 829 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 1: Fisher is called training it's gonna change of pace back. 830 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: And Benny Cunningham, I guess we shouldn't forget about him, 831 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: but I don't expect him to be fighting Zach Stacy 832 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: for the for the starting job. And West coach Jeff 833 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: Fisher said no doubt whatsoever that Sam Bradford will be 834 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: ready for week one. Is that a positive? No what? 835 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: No doubt whatever? A negative? No doubt? Well, considering the 836 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: austions on the roster, I'd say that's positive, But I 837 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: don't know how positive is for Rams fans that they're 838 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: gonna see him all seats. He got Sean Hill there, now, 839 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: how about the big Sean Hill Austin Davis battle. I 840 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: guess that's not a battle. I guess it's just Sean 841 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: hill Get saying that. That made me think the Seahawks 842 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: do have a pretty fun backup quarterback battle, not to 843 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: go back to Seattle, but throughout prior to virus Jackson. 844 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: That's pretty that's pretty spicy. I take that over the Eagles. 845 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: We should do a post just backup quarterback power rankings 846 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: in terms of competitions. Chris Westling, you won't have to 847 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 1: write that because you're taking a nap and then you're 848 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: hitting the town and tearing it apart, painting the town red. Alright, 849 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: I like it, buddy, see you soon, all right. Alright, alright, 850 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: that does it for another edition to be around the 851 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: Lead podcast. We'll be back Friday with another show, so 852 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: tune in for that. We're gonna keep it going three 853 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: times a week now. We're gonna have news analysis, a 854 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: little bit of mirth mark that would be my hope always, 855 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, stay tuned for that, and then uh we'll 856 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: check in and see if west is still alive. Will 857 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: be an important show and we're gonna move forward, so 858 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: be there for that. This is Dan Hansens signing off 859 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: for the Sizzler, the Boss, Kevin Patrick, coming at you, 860 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 1: the mailment and take until as soon as he started 861 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: it up, like he's gonna say, week stop, you are 862 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: so excited about well he I am me like three times, 863 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: like I don't forget. I wanted to get my one take. 864 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: I want to get a hot take. I want to 865 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: get taken that way to go, you know,