WEBVTT - Ep. 249: Begging and Pleading Redux 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.320 This is Me eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:17.680 bug bitten and in my case, underwear listening Hunt podcast, 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:22.440 you can't predict anything presented by on X. Hunt creators 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:26.120 are the most comprehensive digital mapping system for hunters. Download 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:28.960 the Hunt app from the iTunes or Google play store. 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:37.080 Nor where you stand with on x Oh, I gotta 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.960 I Gotta covid hot tip for you. Um, it's like 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.680 a hot tip off about COVID. I had. You know 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:46.000 when you get a hair when you get a hit 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:49.080 your haircut and uh and your t shirt gets all 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.280 full of the hair and it just drives you insane. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.200 I feel like you have a bad barber because when 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:57.080 I go, man, they keep it nice and tidy and 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:58.760 keep it all off me. They have this thing they 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.880 put around you make that a little tissue. Yeah yeah, well, 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:03.480 I mean, but you know about I'm not saying that. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.640 It happens to me every time you've had that experience. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.120 My wife cuts my kid's hair and she doesn't put 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.039 anything on them, and then they don't even they'll never 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.040 wear these shirts again. They complain about him every time 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.640 you can get it out and at home haircut. When 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.240 I do buzz cut. You're exactly right. Well, I wore 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:23.960 my mask, uh through my haircut my mask. Holy shit, 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:28.160 is that uncomfortable? Yeah? Every time I put it on, 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:32.360 I spitting all that hair out. They got stuck in 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:36.200 that thing. Joined today by yp from Barstool Sports. How 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.080 are you doing? I'm doing good? How are you? Um? 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.120 Do you? Uh? I know your name is Ben. What's 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.880 your preferred thing? I don't know, it's I'm sure like 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:45.520 i'd like to get your guys to take That's gonna 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:47.280 be a weird thing to meet a guy named young 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.600 page views? What the hell is going on? It was 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.560 an accident. I actually was never meant to be. I 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.840 don't know. I made a music video, believe it or not, 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.440 when I was trying to get a job at barstool 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.320 and Dave calls himself Davy page views because he came 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.520 up as a blogger and that's like the mess. Yeah, 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.320 so that that's like a cool thing. I don't know 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:08.080 get Yeah, he was like the king of the page views. 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.359 So when I made I was trying to get his attention, 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.640 and I was like, weirdly to like do fishing content. 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:15.640 I was like, I made a music video, don't ask 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.600 me how or why, but the attention of Dave Port, 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.680 one of the funniest dudes ever. Yeah, I don't know. 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.120 I think does a good rant. He's annoyed about something, 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:29.320 it's crazy as long as it's not him about something, 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.240 So that I could watch him express annoyance. I would 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.519 love I told us when we talked the first time, 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.200 when and when I was you know, w we're gonna 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.720 have an argument about hunting. Yes, I would love to 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:40.560 see you guys to talk about it, because I've never 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.920 seen him lose an argument. He's do you think he'd 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:44.960 come on this show and argue with me about hunting. 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.320 Here's the thing, he's smart enough to know when. Um, 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.880 I think he's smart enough to know when. Like I 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.360 think he doesn't want to hunt, but he knows the 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.440 ethics where he's not going to get into an argument 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.440 about like it's totally bad because he eats meat, and 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:03.000 like he's smart enough to know that that's hypocritical. Oh yeah, So, 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.080 like I think he just doesn't want to hunt, you 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:06.440 know what I mean? But I don't think he likes 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.120 the best kind of person on the planet, the best 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:15.320 Like I was the whole planet didn't hunt but really 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.200 supported it. So then you should like me because that's 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.720 me right now I have I'm not a big hunter guy, 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.239 but I eat a lot of meat. But now, actually 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.120 you won't like me because now I'm coming into the 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.360 I'm trying to start, you know what I mean. Yes, 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:29.919 I'll stop liking you soon, I know soon, But I'm 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.320 still bad enough shot that you still like me for 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.160 a little bit. You want to hear a crazy hunting story, 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:35.920 I would love Spencer will tell you one, tell him 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:41.160 about the owl, Spencer, um yanni before I tell the story, 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:45.200 Like what is the Latvian mantra when it comes to karma? Like, 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:54.600 karma is a big part of stuff, right, Karma is 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:56.960 a big part of Latvian stuff. I feel like I've 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:00.760 heard you talk about karma a lot. Yeah, you, my Spencer, 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:06.320 that our whole lens in the Lavian culture has attributes 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:10.120 that aren't necessarily Lavian, that we described as Lavian. Maybe 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.040 maybe so maybe this isn't a Latvian thing, it's a 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.000 honest thing. Yeah, totally, all right? All right, Well I 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.880 thought I thought a lot about you, and this was happening. 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.640 I was in eastern Montana this last weekend. Um, I 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:24.560 was on my second day the haunt. There was moving spots. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:28.440 From my morning spot, it's my afternoon spot. On my drive, 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:33.160 I came across an owl caughting a barbedwire fence. Great 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.320 horned owl caught in a fence, caughting a barbed wire fence. 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.560 So I pulled over to take pictures, and uh, I 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.840 snapped a photo. Yeah, it was big. My brother hit 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:44.839 one one time busted out the front grill and the 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.480 headlight on this car owl. After being up close, I 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:52.120 can understand why pulled over to take some pictures because 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:53.839 it's like, oh, this is like kind of a cool 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.520 poetic scene or something. I don't I don't know why. 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:04.599 Like two tall animal way bigger that was Doug during 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.400 was here. He didn't know already. He looked it up 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.320 on his phone. Two feet is not a bad guess. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.000 Caught in the fence. So I take a few pictures. 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.680 You thought there was poetry in watching this. I will suffer. 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.520 At the time, I didn't know that it was still alive. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.120 The whole scene from my pickup on the side of 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.000 the road to the barbed wire fence looked like this 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:29.400 was death. There were feathers in the ditch. It had 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.200 um like evacuated its bowels in the snow. I couldn't 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.960 see its head. I thought maybe it was decapitated. Gez. 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.360 So I get, I get sort of close. I take 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.240 a few pictures, and then it moves like, oh, this 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:50.680 thing is still alive. Is a good Lavians always know that. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.479 I want to know more details about how it was 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.839 caught bottom strand between two It looked like, no, it 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.200 was in the top strand. It looked as though it 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:04.680 had been crucified, like both wings were on the top 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:08.560 barbedwire fence. That poetic yeah, and then it's the rest 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.760 of his body was just hanging down. I have photos 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.920 I can show you. Um after this, are you gonna 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.039 put him on Instagram? I think so? All right, so 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.240 everybody go to Instagram. Do you want me to do it? 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.520 Are you gonna it? Uh? We'll figure it out later. 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.160 Ey tell him your handle at Spencer New Hearth and 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.880 eu H A R T H Spencer New Hearth and 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:31.760 you will find photos of Spencer's h poetry. All his 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.719 poetry is written in feathers. What's your guess was it? 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.320 Was it swooping down to get something? So I have 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.400 a pretty good answer on this part. I'll get to 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.840 in a second. So I find this owl, realize it's 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.080 still alive, get to work on getting it out of 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.760 the fence. The one wing comes out pretty easy. The 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.000 next wing, though, was like in there in there is 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.359 he just biting at you. Nope, it was. It was 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.679 very docile. Um. When you're up that close, the talents 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.880 are like ridiculous on it. But the good news was 0:06:59.920 --> 0:07:02.440 I had my first light mits with me, which were 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.760 like the biggest, heaviest wool winter gloves that they have, 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.520 and I was able to handle it pretty confidently with those. 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.680 So I kind of opened up its talents, which had 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.280 a wing in one of its talents, and I pulled 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:17.880 that out. It was like its yeah, it's talents were 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.400 just kind of grasping at whatever it could get it. 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.280 It had sort of grasped its own wing um, so 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.600 that the next wing, though, would not come out. I 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.280 tried as far as I could, could not get it up. 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.160 But I had a players in my pickup, wrapped up 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.920 in the bar wrapped up in the barb badly um. 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.560 So I went to my pickup, got a players, and 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.840 I cut the fence on both sides of the wing 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.760 and then the owls and free. But I had like 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.680 three inches a fence hanging out of its wing. I 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:50.800 also I haul my camping gear in four totes. I 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.560 keep it in in four totes that I don't know 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.320 how big, maybe like thirty gallons or something. And I 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:56.760 had one of the toads that were empty, so I 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:58.400 put the owl in the toe in the back of 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.360 my pickup. Did not have service where I was at, 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.360 drove out about twenty miles to where I could get service, 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.400 called the game warden. UM. After like calling five of them, 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.920 one finally answered and he said, well, I would just 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:15.400 leave it. Whatever happens happens, he said, And that wasn't well, no, 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:19.440 you know what why it's not maybe not in disrespect 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:24.040 to him, because like I wouldn't regard a fence like 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:28.880 if you found it tangled up in a oh, like 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.240 a coyote had got her sounding yeah, then I could 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.360 see that you would have that perspective. But here it is, 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.800 it's in a man made thing, and so now humanity 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:41.040 is involved. Yes, there was like some responsibility and it 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:45.800 wasn't my fence. Um, the game warden said, just whatever 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.199 happens happens, let it be. But I wasn't real satisfied. 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:49.960 And at this point I had a live owl in 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.680 the back of my pickup, so it's also like beyond 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:56.560 the whatever happens happened, probably getting attached a little bit, right, Yeah, 0:08:56.640 --> 0:09:00.000 what's his name? Well, I already had some names picked 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.880 doubt for it. Actually, we'll get to that. So I 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.040 was gonna call it. Uh. I had two names picked out, 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.280 either Peck because of where it was that you can 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:12.200 figure that part out on your own for Peck Reservoir, 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.679 or Meat either because I'm sure it eats a lot 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:20.079 of meat. I'd like those two. So I got a 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.240 phone in the game Warden wasn't real satisfied. I called 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.640 the Billing Zoo. The Billing Zoo said, we do not 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.599 do any owl rehabilitation, but you should call the Montana 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.400 Raptor Conservation Society whatever they're called. Is that down the 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.160 Bitter Route. They are in Bozeman, right out of both 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.760 So I called them on a Saturday afternoon. It like noon. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:44.240 They answered, and they said, well, um, here are the options. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.960 You can drive it to us in Bozeman, or we 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.360 have some contact spread out throughout the state where we'll 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.880 do like a little relay race where you will deliver 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:54.920 it to this person, they will deliver it to us. 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.400 We could do that. So the woman on the phone, 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.680 she also told me this on the on end. She says, 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:05.520 birds and fences at very low survival rate, uh, and 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:09.480 an even lower rehabilitation rate. That like this thing is 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.360 going to function well enough to be like they just 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.160 get too banged up. Yes, she saw like a bad situation. 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:15.920 Not many of them come out of there in a 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:21.199 good deal. So they found somebody who was a volunteer 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.679 ninety miles away that I could then drive the owl to. 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.760 Then that person would deliver it the rest of the 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.600 way to the Raptor Center. Um. So I agreed to 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:33.000 do that and basically took myself out of hunting for 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:34.520 the rest of the day because it was just going 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.960 so far out of the way where I was going 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.599 the opposite direction of where I wanted to go, and 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.400 I wouldn't be able to hunt that evening because there's 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:45.080 just gonna be too much time on the road. So 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.680 I take this owl to the woman who's then going 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.920 to take it to Bozeman and on my way home 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.880 from there. Oh okay, So you say, like here's it 0:10:54.920 --> 0:11:00.160 owl in a box. What's her take on it? Yes, so, my, my, no, 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:04.160 this this person was just regular citizen. And I handed 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.200 them a box with an owl and a tote, a 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.079 tote that had holes caught in it with my bench 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:12.760 made e d c so we could breathe. I handed 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:14.520 them the tote and then they took it the rest 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:15.959 of the way and they didn't even take a peek. 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:21.240 So the person the raft center said that they cannot 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:25.640 handle the owl at all. They're not allowed to. But 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.640 that lady told me that this was the third bird 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.560 in the week that she had taken to them, and 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.520 she had hit the trifecta now in a week because 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.520 she had done an eagle hawk and then this was 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:40.560 her owl. Man, A lot of birds get messed up 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:44.120 out there, apparently. I've heard that barbed wire fences are 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:48.040 one of the biggest detriments to sage grouse populations, and 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.320 and and in that area you'll see a lot of 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.280 fences that have flagging on them just to make it 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.599 more visible so the sage crouse don't fly into it. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.800 And they put those little metallic reflectors on there to 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.240 blow on the breeze because it's like a certain people 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.079 when you string I don't know whatever height inches I've 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.480 heard that that that's kind of like a cruising height 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.440 for them or huh so no one. So to this point, 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:13.600 you haven't gotten any any updates or any reason to 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.240 think that the owl is gonna make it, not make it. 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.160 You're saying, like right now or the day that I 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.840 was deliverating right now. I'll get to that at the end. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:28.160 I have an update on thet Was he able to 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.680 stand up in the tote? So it was? He? Was 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.720 he laying down like in a little coffin, Yeah, he was. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.480 He was mostly laying down. When I would mess with him, 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:43.120 he was like conscious. He would look at me. You're 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.800 well harassing in a way of like trimming the barbed 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.960 wire around so it didn't have ten inches a barbwire 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:53.719 instead of spencer three inches. You're still getting up to 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.079 the Latvian karma thing, right, Yeah? Did you hunt down 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.440 a mouse or a bowl or anything to try to 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:03.559 feed it? No? No, not enough time. Oh can I 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.600 tell you something real quick though? My kid, we're out 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.960 hunting for the youth season. He found a baby mouse 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:17.040 and carried around in his bino pouch and it was like, 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.040 I'm not kid. We got it a deer later and 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:24.720 a mouse. Um was licking his hand and stuff like 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.840 he this mouse was like a full on pet mouse. 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:28.880 And he had your your son told you about this. 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:32.760 He's like look and they look at his biny pouch 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.200 was there, you know? Anyways, he's carrying his mouse around 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.640 and there all day long. Then him and his sister 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.120 they name it everything. Then they have a change of 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.520 heart and let it go. And then the next day 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.080 just for like catatonic about having let that mouse go 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.880 and wanted to go find another baby mouse. And I 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.000 was like, I haven't wandered around this planet for forty 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.440 six years. That's the first baby mouse I've ever seen 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:56.640 anyone finds. I don't think you're gonna go out right 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:01.280 now and get one. I can him in the right direction, though, 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.000 you know, are down and our chicken coop. I'm sure 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.079 there's a couple running around. They forgot about it. But 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:07.760 I was going to rig them up a bucket trap 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.520 and just put nesting material in there so instead of 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.840 them drowning and and and a freeze, they'd have like 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.680 a little collection of mice. They could come on, come on, 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:23.920 Steve's great anyways, I'm oh, this is a great story. 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:27.720 I love it alright. So I've now relaid the owl 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.160 to the other person. That person is in route to Bozeman. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.800 I'm in route back to camp, but I'm not going 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:34.480 to make it back to camp in time that evening 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:38.040 to hunt. Just not not enough daylight left on my 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.280 way there though, about thirty miles from where I just 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:44.000 dropped off this owl, I see some deer filtering into 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:48.440 a field, um, a couple hundred yards off the highways, 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.000 private land. But I had on X and I had 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.400 the maps downloaded, despite there not being any service found 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.800 out where the landowner lived, because I thought, well, this 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.320 is my one chance, like this is my only opportunity 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.160 hunt for the seed. Me wait and knocked on the 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.600 rancher's door and they told me that I could go hunt. Now. 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.040 Mind you, to this point, I had decided this summer 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:09.280 that was like, I'm gonna try to find a white 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.320 tail property to hunt this year in eastern Montana. And 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:17.360 I went over fifteen I'm getting permission, no ship, No, 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.960 but just they happened, just not happened. Did you butter 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.440 them up with the owl story? Did not come up. 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.560 I was prepared. I was trying to rescue an owl, 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.040 and he'd probably like, bring me the oles. I'm gonna 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.080 strangle it if he's like an old rancher. Anyways, I 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.080 was trying to rescue an owl and I couldn't help. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:39.680 But notice I was prepared to explain how I wound 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.040 up in their you know, driveway, to talk to them, 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:43.680 but it didn't get to that point. He disagreed on 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.480 the front. He's like, oh, that's no problem, ye. So 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.960 I go back to where I saw the year I 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.000 walk into the past year in an hour later, I 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:55.000 had killed a buck, a buck that I was really 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.520 stoked on, like that. I would shoot any state, anywhere, 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:03.600 private or public, grade four by four. So I would 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.000 have never been in that area had it not been 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.920 for rescuing the owl, though, because I was eighty miles 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.360 in the wrong direction from where I wanted to be 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.560 hunting that evening. Did you then go sleep in your 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:16.640 camp that night? Nope. I went and broke down camp 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.880 and drove home fun. The whole time this happening, I 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.600 was thinking of Yanni and Karma, and I was telling 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:26.120 that to my wife. Tell that story to Yanni's dead. 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.400 If you really want to get the dope, okay, it 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.000 would just be like, of course, that's how the universe works. 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.960 I don't believe, but I'm closer now, closer. I got 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:43.200 an update on the owl on Monday. It's dead, so 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.280 that that was a bummer. They said it could not 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:49.760 be rehabilitated. Both wings were in too bad of shape. Um, 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.080 there'd be too much stitching to be done. They just 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:59.000 said it wouldn't they They put it down. Yep. You 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:00.640 know that joke about the guy it goes out of 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.200 town his cat gets on the roof. That reminds me 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.480 of that joke. I wanted a happy ending, real bad 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.600 I was. I was stoked. I was like, I'm gonna 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.119 volunteer for them. I'm gonna go feed this thing. I'm 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.040 gonna go and take pictures of this owl named meat Eater. 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.920 I'm gonna be there when they release it. You had 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.280 like a little mind movie. I was called the movie 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.560 when I happened, I was all in on it. We 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.720 have three four like real writers in this room. You 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.960 consider yourself a writer too, man, I would not say so. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.920 Is there a name for a story that has like 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:39.800 simultaneously like that a good and bad ending. Mm hmm, 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.520 Well you could do it. You can do it. Choose 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:47.040 your own ending, and you'd be like, if the owl dies, 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:51.520 I'll get the deer. Well, what I gotta seven. It's 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.160 kind of like the ending of a Tarantino movie. Really, 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.520 Like I was telling my wife. I was telling my 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.399 wife about this like karma that I had built up 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.240 and stuffy right, and then I killed this here and 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.280 she's like, well, if karma works, like I don't know 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:07.080 that they would reward you. That's killing another animal. Like 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:08.840 that's a great I read your wife brought that up. 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.359 That's a really good point. You're saying that, like I 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.919 saved an animal, and so I was rewarded by the 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.359 universe with being able to kill one. Yep. But then 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.359 the one I say died too. And that's just how 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:29.200 the raw deal Man story. It didn't die in vain. 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.800 I guess it helped me get a buck. If that 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.600 owlhead lived, he'd sue you for like stealing his ship. 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.560 And now I know i'd handle the situation. Next time 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.960 come upon someone this just called the Montana Raptor Center. 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.280 They'll get you hooked up. They are like a very 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.840 energetic are you gonna become a donor. No, they're not 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:49.760 gonna be a donor. No. But I looked on their 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:53.000 website for volunteer opportunities. The only volunteer opportunity have right 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.080 now is if you live in Billings, Montana, you can 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.840 be part of this relay race from taking owls from 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:02.359 there to Bozeman. You know those places often take like 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:07.440 trim meat and hunters and stuff. You got von Shnard 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.720 had that story he used to bring road killed deer. 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.960 He used to bring road killed deer to a raptor center, 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.320 but he said they'd usually show up minus the backstraps, 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:19.960 but no one ever brought it up. Um uh, would 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.560 you volunteer there at the expense of being able to 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:26.639 rock hound? Why couldn't I do both? I'm saying like, so, 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.320 let's say a Saturday comes up like rock hounding in 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:35.119 one hand, fixing up uh raptors in I felt like 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.960 pretty rewarded throughout the situation, up until I found out 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:41.760 that it died. So I I enjoyed um that I 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.399 think I would do that again. Yeah, I gotta asked, 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.400 though I've eaten some pretty weird ship with you, did 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:49.560 it ever cross your mind? Once they said it was dead. 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:51.400 Did you Did you ask him if you could press 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:55.160 it out? No, because I imagine their their euthanizing situation 0:19:55.240 --> 0:20:00.360 is just like cocktail. I think that was an ass 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.760 breast on that bird. Man owl is not gonna have. 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:04.800 My dad always told story. My dad was from the 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.520 era when people just just shot things for no reason. 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:09.760 He always told a story about sitting in his tree 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.120 stand one day and seen an owl, like an eye 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:16.360 level with him, way off and shooting, and he said 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:18.560 his arrow goes He's talking about how like fluffy they are, 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:20.639 and he says, his arrow goes right through the owl. 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:23.760 But the owl doesn't even flinch, and he realized that 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.560 it just passed through the feathers of the owl. Now, 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:28.239 I would say, like, why the movie we're shooting at 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:32.280 the owl. By the time, you're just like, huh, yeah. 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:34.439 Those days. He used to belong to this. He used 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.679 to belong to the Chicago Bowman and they had a 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:41.320 little patch with every like everything that was on Noah's 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:44.879 Ark they had a patch for. And all you had 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:46.760 to do is going to be like I shot a 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:48.679 toad with my bow and you get the toad patch. 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.439 I'm not kidding, And he had like a sash. I'm like, 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:56.719 he had like a sash with dozens of patches of 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.959 just everything on the planet. Because this is back when 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.760 people are super excited about bows, like the Fred Bear era. 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:05.680 Who's that dude? He went to Africa to prove you 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:07.520 could kill an elephant with a bow and shot like 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.960