1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl, all about them 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: our comic Girl Cheering for the drama Queen's Girl Fashion, 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: but you'll tough go. You could sit with us Girl Drama, Queens, Drama, 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama, Drama, Queen's Drama, Queen's Everybody. It's 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: episode twenty two. It's the season finale of season one, 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: One Tree Hill. Case you didn't know what show we 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: were all watching, It's One Tree. The episode is called 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: The Games That Play Us and it aired May eleventh, 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Somebody read us an opposite tell 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: us what happens in this episode, Sophia hit It says, okay, y'all. 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Lucas and Nathan have to bear Dan's abuse as he 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: coaches them in the playoffs, pushing them both to the 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: breaking point. After Dan threatens her not cool, Hailey reconsiders 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: her relationship with Nathan, and Whitey learns that his medical 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: condition is serious and something left off the synopsis that 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: feels pretty important is that Lucas is moving to charm 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: Bang Deal really big deal. Didn't this feel like you 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: guys like they were prepping this for a series finale. 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: They were like, there's no promise that this thing's going 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: to keep going. Like, let's give everyone a happy ending. 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: So the happy endings of Haley and Nathan and Dev 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: and Keith finally hitting all that powerful energy, and finally 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: Brooke and Peyton ending up in bed together like everybody 26 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: got a happy ending, and Lucas left town, except we 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: left Karen and tears and Dan maybe dying, although that 28 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: might just be his my favorite you better hope I die. 29 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: I die. He's like having a heart attack or something. 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: I was like, what's going on. Something that I thought 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: was really cool as a device is that we basically 32 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: play aid this whole moment in time for all of 33 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: our characters and all of our little worlds in the 34 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: framework of the playoff game, And so the dialogue would 35 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: lead from the game back to a scene from the game, 36 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: to the cemetery from the game to Peyton's house, and like, 37 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, it was it was a really cool divide, 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: like it I liked that you did. It was really confusing, 39 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: but eventually caught on because I didn't I forgot. So 40 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: I was watching this and I'm like, what is happening? 41 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: Why we keep this just all over the place? And 42 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: maybe it was just wasn't executed perfectly. I mean, you know, 43 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: God knows, when you're shooting a TV series and you're 44 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: prepping other episodes and you're dealing with lots of other stuff. 45 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: I understand how some you know, it's hard to get 46 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: meticulous at things like that, but it confused me until 47 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: about halfway through. I was like, you know what's funny. 48 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: I think I was so prepped for the playoff game 49 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: because the three of us have been like, but the player, 50 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Lucas can't move away with Keith and play in the playoffs. 51 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: So I was really really ready for the game. Yeah, okay, 52 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Lucas walking into Dan's office 53 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: of his own volition and saying, I guess I'm sorry 54 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: for resenting you, which I thought was honestly really unrealistic. 55 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: But the next thing he said what I really liked, 56 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: which because he was like, I'm sorry for resenting you 57 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: for not being there for me. Because I was like, no, well, 58 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be apologizing to this guy. Why would you 59 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: do that? And I guess he's trying to be the 60 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: bigger person or do that for his own conscience sixteen 61 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: year old kid, or just be a sixteen yeard. But 62 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: that's what I was like, just sixteen year old boys 63 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: really like get that vulnerable and decide to go whatever. 64 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: But the next thing he said was something about what 65 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: did he say next? There was like a it was 66 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: a different apology, but it made sense. He went in 67 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: there and he said that thing about I'm sorry that 68 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: I resented you for not wanting to be in my life, 69 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: and I guess I never thanked you for saving That's 70 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: what it was. Yes, I really loved that. I really 71 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: appreciated that he was really tying up, trying to make emends, 72 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: tie up blues ends before he left and beat just 73 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: be a better man before he leaves town. I thought 74 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: that was really cool. Yeah. I liked the parallel also 75 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: that Lucas kind of you know, swallows his pride and 76 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: chooses to lean into his vulnerability with Dan, and it's 77 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: echoed as these boys are becoming friends and brothers later 78 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: with You and James in the Haley and Nathan moment 79 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: where he says, you know, my pride would tell me 80 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: to just say yeah, that's it and leave. But my 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: heart wants me to tell you that I love you 82 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: and then I'm not going to give up on us. 83 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: And and you see both of these. I mean, you're right, 84 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: these sixteen year old boys making very grown up moves 85 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: to be honest about how they feel, even though their 86 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: feelings are complicated. What was big of him to open 87 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: up a door for Dan? You know, everybody, it's like 88 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: so easy to vilify Dan, and if Luke is trying 89 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: to see the silver lining there, just to be like, hey, 90 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: in case you wanted to try to be that guy 91 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: again that you were at eighteen years old, like, here's 92 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: an opportunity for that. And it gets yeah, because we 93 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: all would love communities to go back and fix the 94 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: thing that we screwed up when we were young and dumb. 95 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: You know how many times do we get that chance? 96 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: And Keith gave that chance to Dan. Also in this episode, 97 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: when Keith says I'm leaving and you know, tries to 98 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: have one last moment of I don't know, reconciliation or 99 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: something something that the other moment that we just saw 100 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: with Luke and Nathan, you know, like, yeah, it was 101 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: so nice if they could just hug yeah, and Dan 102 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: gives him another sniper mark and I can't, can't do it. Yeah, 103 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: Dan really stabs at people in this episode. For me, 104 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: the the theatrical device of the juicy suits was incredibly powerful. 105 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: This because dead in that bed velvet Hailey at the 106 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: beginning of the episode in her own That's how we 107 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: knew she was about to get Yeah yeah, Dan, because 108 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: you were looking gorgeous like a snack, like a snack. 109 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: I almost said it, looking like a beautiful, juicy little snack. 110 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: When Dan does snip at you, and so then to 111 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: see it paralleled later with Barb just like I'm vulnerable 112 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 1: to juicy. Such is such a powerful thing. I feel 113 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: like we're going to have drama queen juicy suits. Y'all 114 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: better justice prep yourself. It happened done. We need to 115 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: d m those people on Instagram and figure it um 116 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: Dan's story. So Dan going to deb while she's crying 117 00:06:54,440 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: and signing the papers and that whole manipulative story about 118 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: I was going to leave you that day. And for Karen, 119 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: how about that super gus you told me you were pregnant. 120 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: I picked you, I picked you over the girl I 121 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: really loved so that was our first hint that he 122 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: really loved Karen. He went with the girl with the 123 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: most money, seemingly made his decision, the girl who dropped 124 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: him start his car empire. And then we know what 125 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: bugged me though, okay, it bugged me that after he 126 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 1: walked in and found Dun Dun Dun, Deb and Keith 127 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: wrapped up in the blankets, so hot, so hot, I 128 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: wanted to see more of it. Why did they make 129 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: us not watch that? Why didn't they? Right? They made 130 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: us like do every lingering kiss ever, we should have 131 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: gotten at least seven minutes seven minutes in heaven with Devin. 132 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: K wanted it, and Dan walks in and he sees 133 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: them and it was so vindicating, and then they both 134 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: go and try and apologize to him. He was like, man, 135 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: this guy has got people really wrapped around his finger, 136 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: Like why in the world he's stolen his brother's company. 137 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: He you know, has rubbed it in his face a 138 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: number of times that Karen doesn't want to be with him, 139 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: Like every dig Dan can get in he has. And 140 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: so I hope Deb had a whirl. I hope she 141 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: had a great time. I hope they earned it, you know, 142 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: they really did. That is a great point though, why 143 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: they're apologizing to him. I mean even it's it's so 144 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: hard in that scene we were referencing earlier to see 145 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: Dan be so cruel to Lucas and say, you know 146 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: you're already supposed to be on the court, you know, 147 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: go run win sprints like he physically punishes his boy 148 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: for being vulnerable. And then when Keith tries to talk 149 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: to him this one last chance before he leaves, that 150 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: it's such a gut punch when he says, oh, would 151 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: you do with the ring if your leave and you 152 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: must be proposed to care and she said no. I 153 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, brutal, Like why are these 154 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: people apologizing to this? Why are they Like is that 155 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: the right thing to do? Like do we have to 156 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: continually in our lives apologize to the dance Scots in 157 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: the world or struggle with this? Really struggle with this 158 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: because there's a huge part of me that's like I 159 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: want to be the better person. I want to not better, 160 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: Like my ego is saying I want to be better 161 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: than you. But if your better, Jake, it's that I'm bad. 162 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: I want to go to sleep at night knowing that 163 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: I've cleaned up any mess that's out there. You know, 164 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: if I feel like there's a mess and I have 165 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: any control over cleaning up some part of my portion 166 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: of it, regardless of what the other person has done 167 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: or said, my way of living, I try to clean 168 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: up my mess. Um. So I understand that. But also 169 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: there is also a codependent thing that kind of goes 170 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: along with that that I end up getting taken advantage 171 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: of a lot, I think because I do tend to 172 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: give people the benefit of the doubt, I too do 173 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: tend to you know, I don't want to be mean. 174 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to step on anybody's toes. I don't 175 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: want to assume the worst. And so I do that 176 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: for long enough that you know that I end up 177 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: waking up and being like, wait, I'm being totally taken 178 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: advantage of. Why have I been allowing this to go 179 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: on for so long? Who does them to you? I'll 180 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: fight them. Do the list, you just pass it along. 181 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: It's my it's my whole life. And by the way, 182 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: that's I'm equally responsible because I allow it to happen. 183 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: And so that's the question of where why do deb 184 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: and Keith and Lucas and even Nathan sometimes like why 185 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: do all what is that about us that that makes 186 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: us feel that we need to perpetuate the cycle of 187 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: like allowing somebody to hurt us, and then we go 188 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: back and we're the ones who apologize even when they don't. 189 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: What is that? Yeah? Well I think you're right, though, Joy, 190 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: And perhaps I think you're right because I see myself 191 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: in the explanation you just offered. Are dead to me? 192 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: I hate your face. I need someone those boundaries, Hillary, Yeah, 193 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: we've been learning boundaries in our adult lives. Um. I 194 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: certainly think that for me, in trying to learn boundaries, 195 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: the thing that was the hardest to accept was not 196 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: everyone deserves the ever. Not everyone deserves you being the 197 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: bigger person to try to clean up everything, because it 198 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: puts you in a position where you're constantly afraid that 199 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: it's you, that you're failing, that you're doing something wrong. 200 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: And and really, what it takes me back to and 201 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: we've been we've all been talking about this dynamic with 202 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: him that is so well represented on our show, which 203 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: is probably why it hurts to watch. Those are abusive relationships, 204 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: Those are being in codependent relationships with Um users or 205 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: all the way up the ladder to narcissists. And I 206 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: think that it's like, uh, it's hard to know when 207 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: your desire to always figure out why something's happened and 208 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: learn from it and learn the lesson and heal from 209 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: it and make everybody be friends, Like do you really 210 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: have to do that with somebody like Dan Scott? I 211 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: don't think it's an optimism. It's a level of optimism 212 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: that's lovely. And I love being around optimistic people. And 213 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: for me, like as someone who's prone to say you 214 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: real fast, um, it is good for me to be 215 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: around optimistic people. And I like watching optimistic people. So 216 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: I like watching the characters in this episode try try again, 217 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: try and try again, um, and it may work out. 218 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what the hell happened season seven, 219 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: eight nine? So does Dan ever? Does he ever? Circle back? 220 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: Is all the effort worth something? In the end, We're 221 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: going to find out. I'll find out. I don't know it, 222 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: but we have a lot of optimistic kids here, and 223 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I had no idea how many of 224 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: our like signature moments and signature like lines were packed 225 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: into this. I forgot to so many major things. Well, okay, 226 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: here let me This is one of my favorite quotes 227 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: of the episode. Keith says to Karen, let someone discover 228 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: how staggering you are to it killed me and the 229 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: two of them to I know, I know, and the 230 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: two of them together, and the way that they this 231 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: is watching two pro actors go at it because it 232 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: was so under played. They did. They weren't like, they 233 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: weren't milking it. No one was chewing scenery. For those 234 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: of you out there who aren't the Thespians, chewing scenery 235 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: is like He's like, when somebody just kind of takes 236 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: a very minimal scene and then they literally, you know, 237 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: they would nobody actually does this, but you're chewing on 238 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: the scenery like you're just like making you're making a 239 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: meal out of something that's smaller than that. They just 240 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: were so simple and dropped into their bodies and all 241 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: the eye contact and that he could see all the 242 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: emotion was washing all over them. They just sat there 243 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: and felt it and then set their lines and it 244 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: was so beautiful. Yeah, that really was a hard scene 245 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: to watch because he's like, did you ever love me? 246 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: And she just can't, she can't say yes, and that's 247 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: It's like she let him be her partner for so 248 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: long because for her that was enough. You know, I 249 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: don't need somebody to sleep with. I just need somebody 250 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: to like maybe cook dinner with sometimes and help. She 251 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: needed help raising her child's and he but also talk 252 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: about allowing things to go on like he could have. 253 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: He could have pulled the plug on that at any 254 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: moment and said, look, if I'm not if we're not 255 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: going to be together, I can't participate in this. But 256 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: he didn't because he was. He was getting something wonderful 257 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: out of it too. You know, even though it wasn't romance, 258 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: there was something else that was deeper and was intimacy 259 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: them that they needed. It wasn't simiththy Yeah. I think 260 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: it can be complicated for you know, two people who 261 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: would theoretically be attracted to each other or date to 262 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: be best friends, you know. And it's interesting to see 263 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: the adult version of it because there's so many people 264 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: that I know and so many conversations we've all had 265 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: about like oh yeah, before I was like young enough 266 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: to discern, and I thought I was supposed to date 267 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: that person who is my friend. You know, you're engaged 268 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: to your friend. Dude, you guys are friends for how 269 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: long before? Yeah, I represented didn't see it. I um, 270 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: And sometimes you do the opposite. And it's like to 271 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: see these adults being, um, the opposite thing on so 272 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: many shows like ours, which is what all of our 273 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: characters do. Like the kids are trying to figure out 274 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: who do they love, who are they really supposed to 275 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: be with? And I love seeing the inverse intimacy of 276 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: Keith and Karen because they they love each other so deeply, 277 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: but they've not crossed that line. They've never given it 278 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: a shot. And it's almost like it's been so long 279 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: that that for her she can't imagine doing that. And 280 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: for him, it's been his secret. You know, he doesn't 281 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: have that problem. Um. Brooke and Peyton, because boy, and 282 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: they loved to cut into that shot of us in 283 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: the gym over and I did they did? What what 284 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: was this guy? We're just making eyes at each other. 285 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, you're still looking at me. I'm still 286 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: looking at you. And it just kept going over and over. 287 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: It was was it the same shot over and over? 288 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: I think it was the same shot multiple times. They 289 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: just want like, go back to it, go back to 290 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: it cut back to Brigan Peyton, but then like we're 291 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: in the bar together and we're just smiling, and then 292 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: we're in bed at the end and we're just smiling. 293 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: Let's do something great together. I didn't realize how I 294 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: was looking at you. Maybe, and maybe I did realize 295 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: how it's looking at you. But looking back on it, 296 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, almost twenty years later, I'm just like, yeah, duh, 297 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: that is totally a Roman. They're just they're so happy 298 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: to be back together and they're so happy. So what 299 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: you're saying is that episodes ago you were like, God, 300 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: Peyton is so gay for Haley, and now Peyton's back 301 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: to me. In business, it's like Jake Lucas Haley bro everybody. 302 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: Changers are experts at just ripping our hearts out and 303 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: handing them to every single person who looks at us 304 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: the right way. Me love me. But also that is 305 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: like a real thing, like that whole used to joke, 306 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: uh in the last season on One Tree Hill, when 307 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: I was like single and like kind of dating around, 308 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: and I would we played this game, you know that 309 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: children's book Are You my mother? Oh? Yeah, So I 310 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: used to joke like, are you my husband? Are you 311 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: my husband? Are you my husband? Are you my husband? 312 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: With like like people in bars and things, Hillary saying 313 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: I literally I told that, Like every time I see 314 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: a man reading on the subway in New York, I'm like, 315 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: are you? It could be honestly, it's it's like, uh, 316 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, because that spark of seeing someone for 317 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: the first time, or that spark of like recognizing someone 318 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: that maybe you've known for a little while but you've 319 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: never looked at that way, that's exciting, and I think 320 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: that could almost even be addicting, especially to someone like 321 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: Peyton who doesn't have a stable home, and so it's like, 322 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: are you gonna be my fix? Are you gonna be 323 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: my fix? Are you gonna be my fix? And Brooke 324 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: is the ultimate fix, like that's the person who has 325 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: loved her through everything. But I think that's also part 326 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: of the depth of Brook and Peyton's bond. Neither of 327 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: them knows what a healthy adult relationship. So both of 328 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: these right, they've had nothing modeled, and so of course 329 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: these girls get into a messy entanglement with the same 330 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: boy of course they love deeply, and an entanglement they 331 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, they love deeply, and they and they and 332 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: they hurt deeply together because there are two little girls 333 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: who have never had an adult teach them how things 334 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: are supposed to go. So they're desperately looking for the 335 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: thing that feels like home. They're playing house. You know, 336 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: if we can just like if you have have a 337 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: house and I have half a house, if we just 338 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: combine forces, then maybe we'll have like a whole situation. 339 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: Um and I, you know, knowing that we were on 340 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: the bubble and we didn't know whether or not we 341 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: were going to come back or not, I appreciate that 342 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: that's the storyline that they chose for us. That it 343 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: wasn't like all of us ended up with Luke one 344 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: of like I ran off with Jake. It was like, no, 345 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 1: this bond is the important end cap to this story. Yeah, 346 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: so's the reason why, you guys, this friendship was just 347 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: so epic on the show and and something that carried 348 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: so many people through I mean, I think that your 349 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: friendship was set an example for so many young women. 350 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: And you know, they just as much as Nathan and 351 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: Haley were this iconic couple, I think Brook and Peyton 352 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: were the iconic friendship friendship couple of the two thousands 353 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: and that shows up all the time, and fans we 354 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: never got a rainteller. Joy. Yeah, you guys had another rain. 355 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: I know. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to leave soon 356 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: because I have I'm in Nashville right now, and you 357 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: guys friends out there listening. It's been a real pickle 358 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: trying to figure out our schedules because we've all got 359 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: other other projects and children and you know, all these 360 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: other responsibilities and normally it's been so we find time, 361 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: but this week, for some reason, it was just really differs. 362 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: So anyway, this was our only kind of time slot 363 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: to get together. So you get me for the first 364 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: half hour, and then you get you got these other 365 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: two for the last. We're going to talk about and 366 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: making the thing. They're going to carry you out. But 367 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: before I go, I want to talk about that scene 368 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: with Nathan and Haley, because Okay, first of all, the 369 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: rain was so intense. It was like I was blinking 370 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: like I could not because James is so tall and 371 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: I my eyes. If you looked at them scene, I 372 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: couldn't even look up at it. I was just like 373 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: this pelts of rain. Somebody help me, diving into my 374 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: eyeballs um, but he looked so great in the rain, 375 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: by the way, him looking down with that angle and 376 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: that jaw and the rain just pouring in his face, 377 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: and he looked more like a man for the first time. 378 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: Totally agree. Yeah, I was, Yes, I was like, I 379 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: was like, baby Jake, I know, I know what. Hell God, 380 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: I remember that day though. I remember the scene in 381 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: the cemetery, and I really remembered shooting this episode. Watching 382 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: this back, I went, oh, I have visceral memories of this. 383 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: I remember being in the cemetery and how cold it 384 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: was that night and trying to you know, we were 385 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: just out there so late, and it was the first 386 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: time Chat and I had been able to do a 387 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: long night scene and just hang out and chat together 388 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: in a really long time. So that was super fun. 389 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: But this, Yeah, the speech that Nathan gives Haley about 390 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: she's clearly threatened by a sexual relationship was the one 391 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: line that really bumped me. To bump you guys too, 392 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: or was it just me that you were threatened by 393 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: a sexual relationship? It was that you were irritated. It 394 00:22:53,600 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: was on his computer, like, bro, you had this on 395 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: your laptop currently. And also and by the way, they 396 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: could have chosen, you know, our our episode aired last 397 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: week all about the porn they could have chosen, like 398 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: websites that didn't sound as like raunchy as the one 399 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: like some high ed material for Nat. They really did. 400 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: But I just it begged me because she wasn't I 401 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: don't think she was threatened by a sexual relation. What 402 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 1: would be threatened that? That's so insulting. Actually literally Peyton 403 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: drops her off to that scene. For me, I was like, 404 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: they're together. Oh yeah, wa if you were threatened, why 405 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: am I dropping you off? Like why yeah, Like that's 406 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: clearly not it. And what what bugged me about it 407 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: is it was again going back to the device of 408 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: like you shouldn't care about the sex because you have 409 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: my heart, And I was like, no, it's not about 410 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: the fact that this is a person who's been sexual Sure, 411 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: that can make you feel a little nervous about your 412 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: own whatever, But the whole point is that she's upset 413 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: that there has been a lot about sexual activity that 414 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: doesn't include and this is someone who clearly has a 415 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: very high view of sex. She doesn't see it as 416 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: a commodity to trade or something that is you know, 417 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: for her, this is something that she really values and 418 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: puts puts a high value in because it really is 419 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 1: meaningful to her. And you know that's complicated when you're 420 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: in a relationship with someone who hasn't functioned with sex 421 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: in that way. Um, and who knows, you know, how 422 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: things can change for for Nathan or how things have 423 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: changed for him. But I just thought that was really 424 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: the wrong line to choose. And I remember feeling like, guys, 425 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: I hate this line. Can't we change it? But it 426 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: wasn't my line, so it wasn't up to me. It's 427 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: so hard to change someone else's dialogue, like yeah, so 428 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: I just had to like, Okay, Hayley, it's going to 429 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: forgive him. I guess I will say props to James 430 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: because he took some lines that were gross and and 431 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: that device of like you have my heart that we've 432 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: been complaining about for weeks, just being like come on, 433 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: like have a real conversation, and and he was he 434 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: was to your point, like he brought a man's energy 435 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: to it, he brought his vulnerability to it. He he 436 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: he sort of got over the worst of the dialogue 437 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible and leaned into the apologies and 438 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: into how he wasn't going to be a typical guy 439 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: who just sat in his pride and said we'll forget 440 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: it and and he brought all this other stuff to it. 441 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: I was really impressive. You know, he was eighteen years old, 442 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: like doing that scene and what a what a g 443 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: our friend is He threw away the bad lines. He 444 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: was like if I just see him really fast and 445 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: like yeah, and then he leaned into the good lines 446 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: and it was It was really sweet to watch because 447 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: even though I, you know, I feel for you in 448 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: that moment, joy and like I didn't like that either, 449 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: I still came away from that scene going I really 450 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: like that. I like that he chose vulnerability as a team. 451 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: It's just realistic too, by the way, because nobody just 452 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: changes their mind and it's rare that someone will change 453 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: their mind on a dime and everything's going to be 454 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: perfect all of a sudden. So it's fine that he 455 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: had to find you know, that was sort of where 456 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: the line that he could come to to make sense 457 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: of it, to keep moving forward and you know, give 458 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: him space to grow. I guess I don't know, am 459 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: I being too gener no? But you ended that scene perfectly. 460 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: I mean the will if you have to, was yeah, 461 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: and it was such a good kiss. And then we 462 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: were in his house and that bra from Edge of 463 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: Urge because the whole thing about that you have to 464 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: tell the bra story. Oh my god, you guys. In 465 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: my notes, I literally have that satin bra and on 466 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: my notes sheet, Joy, you looked so hot that probably 467 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: they wanted me in a regular bra. And it was 468 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: twenty one. I had never been in a regular bra 469 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: on TV before. I mean, now I'd be totally naked. 470 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it, but you know, 471 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: whatever given, But yeah, at least I have no shame left, 472 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: Like I'll take all the roles Kate Winslet doesn't want. 473 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: But I You're like, paint me like one of your friends. 474 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: But back then, you know, I was. I was definitely 475 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: really nervous about that. I didn't want to be in 476 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: a bra on TV, and so I didn't know what 477 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: to do. And we found this sort of sports bra 478 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: thing that was satin, so it looked like something Haley 479 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: would wear. Um, but I do remember filming that scene 480 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: and it was, uh, I couldn't wear nipple pads because 481 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: they would have shown through the satin. And so you know, 482 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: it was a little cold in there when I went in, 483 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: and I remember, God, I'm trying to remember exactly what happened, 484 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: but I know that our director, I specifically, was like, listen, 485 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: I really don't like I'm in satin and my nipples 486 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: are going to show through this, and I really am 487 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: uncomfortable with that. Can you please just like shoot above it, 488 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: just make sure you're like or or just wait until 489 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: like it swarms up and it warms up a little 490 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: in here. And he said, no problem, absolutely, and then 491 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: they just sucking did whatever they wanted to do. That's 492 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: what they did around it. And I was so upset. 493 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: I was so upset because honestly, I could have chosen 494 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 1: a padded bra that at least it would have been 495 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: like a bikini top, but then I wouldn't have been 496 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: so exposed. But the fact that you can totally see 497 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: my nipples through that shirt and it was a satin 498 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: there beautiful. Hey, I got great boobs. I'm so happy 499 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: about them. But I'm so happy about them that needs 500 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: to be on a shirt. I'm so happy about that's right. 501 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: But at twenty one, I was like, oh my god, 502 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: it's a big deal. But you but you were scary. 503 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: You looked so beautiful and so innocent, but also it 504 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: was clear this is a girl coming into her own, 505 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: she's making decisions on her own, making a decision. I 506 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: thought that you played all of that really really well, 507 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 1: you know, and and it's iconic for for the you know, 508 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: cannon of the show. It's this episode you two kissing 509 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: in the rain and then getting married that carries through 510 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: the rest of the series. Lucas has such a good 511 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: reaction at the end when I'm like, we got married 512 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: last night and dropped the bomb, and Hayley and Nathan 513 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: just like like, it's cute, but Lucas was like, oh yeah, 514 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: you two. Honestly, we're so giddy and cute in that cute. 515 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: I remember getting those pages. Don't remember when they gave 516 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: us the pages were in red. The last like ten 517 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: pages of the episode were in red. In the script, yes, 518 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: because people were leaking our scripts for they were getting 519 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: leaked and the red pages with the black ink couldn't 520 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: be zero that's right, everything would disappear. So they gave 521 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: us the end of the of the episode in red 522 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: so it wouldn't get leaked. Onto the end. I was 523 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: in my trailer when I read this and I when 524 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: I saw that line, Haley was like, we got married 525 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: last night. I beats it out of my trail because 526 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: James and I shared a trailer and I busted out 527 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: of my trailer and I ran. I banged on his story, 528 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: like teach, what did he say? He was like, yeah, 529 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Crazy but that we could have 530 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: ended the show and everything was wrapped up. Everything was 531 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: nice and tidy. You two getting married was the hook 532 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: where people were like, wait, what this? It was smart 533 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: and back. It was very smart. It was very smart. 534 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: Inquiring minds want to know, how's this marriage going to play? Book? Girls? 535 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: You talk about it amongst yourselves. I love you. I'm sorry, 536 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: what are you doing? We want to we want to 537 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: cheer on whatever you're working on. Oh thank you. I 538 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: am you did a show, did a show last night 539 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: in Nashville. And I have some writing sessions and recording 540 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: stuff that I've been just getting into. And there's just 541 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: so many schedules to juggle and I had so many 542 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 1: of these things already set up, and I'm only here 543 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: for a week. So unfortunately this is my only give 544 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: us our new favorite record. Joy, I love you, girls. Hey, 545 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: talk about how much good music there was in this episode, 546 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: by the way, because the music in this episode was amazing. 547 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: Talk about Okay and Brooklyn so delicious with all of 548 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: the stuff with Nikki and I love I love their 549 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: schemes and Okay, too many notes, I love you one 550 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: to three ravens never more, goodbye, goodbye, I love you. Well, yeah, 551 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: we have had like a bonkers week. Um yeah, what 552 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: can we say about Joy while she's not here? She'll 553 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: love that? Oh my god. You know what I loved 554 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: Okay because the thing I have written under the satin 555 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: bra and all caps is um, I loved Joy chose 556 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: to play that scene. I saw her do two things, 557 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: like they come in from the rain and Nathan gets undressed, 558 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: and she has this very beautiful, like feminine reaction to him, 559 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: like she she allows her attraction to take her by 560 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: surprise as Haley, and then she makes a distance. Is 561 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: this exactly? I saw her realize that for the first time, 562 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: because she's been attracted to Nathan as Haley for so long, 563 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: but for the first time, her attraction didn't make her uncomfortable, 564 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: and she realized she was ready. This time, she had 565 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: the power in that moment. And that's a lovely way 566 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: to be in control of your sexual ality is when 567 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: you feel in total control and you're hungry for it. 568 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: You know, no one wants to eat a meal when 569 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: they're not hungry. But but if you haven't had anything 570 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: all day and you're like, you know what, I'm going 571 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: to eat this entire plate of Nathan Great. I was 572 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: expecting for the analogy, but I'm with you, I'm just 573 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: going to eat that boy. Yeah. But here's my question 574 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: was why wasn't Haley cheering at the game? Did I 575 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: miss something like? Wasn't she on the squad? I? I 576 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: was wondering. Also, I think she just did the Sparkle 577 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: Classic with us and then we convinced her to be 578 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: on the squad for real in the later seasons. Has 579 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: she not cheered at a game? We're gonna need somebody 580 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: to weigh in on this. I was just like, I 581 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: don't think she did. Yeah, I don't think so. I 582 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: think it was just the Sparkle Classic either way, Frankly, 583 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: I was mad she wasn't down there with us winking 584 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: and smiling and hold hands. Um. It was interesting to 585 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: me that that they did decide to use the turn 586 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: and wink to you multiple times. I was like, are 587 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 1: are we using it as a flashback? Like what why 588 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: do we keep repeating this? But I realized I think 589 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: they did it not well as a device to try 590 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: to lead the audience on the mystery Brooke is going 591 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: to betray Peyton? You know? I mean that, me knowing 592 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: what's going to happen never bought the misdirect. Are there 593 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: people out there? They did, like, are there people out there? 594 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: If you if you guys really believed the Who's going 595 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: to betray Peyton? You need to send us a note 596 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: because yeah, fans, will you tell us? I mean, Brooks 597 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: a good actress shadow hanging out in the My God, 598 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: that was so could go out as soon as like, 599 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: as soon as that scene came on, I was like, whoa, 600 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: that's a choice we made in the makeup trailer. James Brooks, 601 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm a grown up and I have a fake I 602 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: d eyeshadow. Yeah, don't I look twenty used to wear 603 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: a lot of lilac eyeshadow. Maybe it's time for that 604 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: to come back. Honestly, I have a lilac jacket that 605 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: I like so much, so maybe I should just do 606 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: a whole you used to match your makeup with your 607 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: clothes all the time. Oh yeah, that was like Kelly 608 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: Jefferson and I who y'all know, we've talked about our 609 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: wonderful makeup artist on the show that was That was 610 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: a Kelly Jefferson. She was like, I think, this girl 611 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: who's so into fashion but also is a teenager, I 612 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: would think it's really cool to match her eyeshadow too 613 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: her outfits. And I was like, I'm obsessed with this. 614 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: We're getting the note that it's season three that Hayley 615 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: became a cheerleader because Brooke asked her to join the 616 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: squad after newcomer Rachel Gettina tries to take over the squad. Hey, 617 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: all right, one of our favorite a good team that 618 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: helps us with this stuff. You want to talk a 619 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: little bit about all those scenes between Chad and James 620 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: because they they played so well together. Chad did such 621 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: a good job, James did such a good job. It's 622 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: like they had the whole will they or won't they 623 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: relationship this whole season. So for them to end up 624 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: in that space at the River Court in the end, 625 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: it was just I was so touched by it because 626 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: it ran this really beautiful arc of Nathan trying to 627 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: help Lucas rehab them sharing in all of this experience 628 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: of Dan and him just being so vicious with them 629 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: as the substitute coach, and then that beautiful night shot 630 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: on the river court where all of Walmington's lit up 631 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: and Nathan says, I never thought during that first game 632 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: that I'd be here feeling like this, I'm gonna miss you. 633 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: And when he says, you know, because you're a great 634 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: basketball player, and they both almost laughed but they don't, 635 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: and then he says, and you're my brother cried. I 636 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: was like, chili bumps up as you're talking about it. Yeah, 637 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: Like I'm actually like teary eyed again. It really watching them, 638 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: Lucas and Nathan have that moment, it really got me. 639 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: It was beautiful. It's sad to see Lucas's family that 640 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: he thought he had falling apart. I mean, he had 641 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: a maternal person and a paternal person and they're basically 642 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: splitting up and he's having to pick which person he's 643 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: going to go with. And so for him to finally 644 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:48,479 Speaker 1: have this new solid family member who loves his best 645 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: friend and who cares about him and who stands up 646 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: for him to Dan in the locker room, Like Nathan's 647 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: fight with Dan and the locker room was it was 648 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: so bad, and him hauling Dan on being a coward 649 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: and not being a team player back then, and Dan 650 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: like being so ashamed in front of all those boys. 651 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: Tis like, I'm good, that's fine, I have to leave. 652 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the that relationship Nathan and Luke was something 653 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: that was fun to watch because it's not like, I mean, 654 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: at that point were we all hanging out outside of work. 655 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: I think by the end of the season, we were 656 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: all just like working twenty hour days and going home 657 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: and going to sleep. And so Chad James's relationship, the 658 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: way they were able to just come to work and 659 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: lock into that without they weren't living together at that point. 660 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, It's just they made it look so easy. 661 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: Just Okay, we're gonna love each other now and they're 662 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: walking talks are really strong. Um. Hailey scene with Chad though, 663 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 1: was for me the saddest scene where she's like, I'm scared, 664 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: what do you mean You're not going to be here? 665 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: And then she starts listening all this stuff that I 666 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: like to do. She's like, who's gonna go thrift store 667 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: shopping with me and who's gonna go get dumb records? 668 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: And I'm just like Hi, It's like hill, Yeah, I mean, 669 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: I still don't understand Lucas moving away. I don't know 670 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: why that was part of like I always think there's 671 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: like a double reason why they do stuff. Was it 672 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: because Chad was doing a movie? They knew he was 673 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 1: doing a movie, and they knew they couldn't bring him 674 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 1: back right away? I don't really know, but I think 675 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: he is back right away. I really think that they 676 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: but that they used that. You know, Haley and Nathan 677 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: getting married was a cliffhanger. Lucas going away with Keith 678 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: was a cliffhanger. By the way, when you said, you know, 679 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: inquiring minds want to know what's going to happen with 680 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: this married teenage couple, and are minds want to know 681 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 1: who left a serial killer envelope on Peyton's door? That's right? 682 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: I was like, what is that? Who left that? And guys, 683 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: I really don't remember? And so I think that they 684 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: wanted with every kind of couplet, they wanted us to 685 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: have these cliff hairs. Dan's having a heart attack, Deb 686 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: finds him, Karen and Deb have been at the game together. 687 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: And that's so lay because when we first see them, 688 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: we don't know that Dan has told Deb this story 689 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: of I didn't want me with you, I was leaving 690 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: you to go back to Karen, and Deb still chooses 691 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: to sit with Karen at the game that Dan is coaching. 692 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 1: That is some deep drama in a small town. Well, 693 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: and I almost feel like because him saying that to her, 694 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, she realizes that she's been just as screwed 695 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: over by him as Karen was. Well, yeah, because I 696 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: mean she talks about the first time she him. How 697 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: many times have there been? Do we think? I don't know? 698 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: Almost got me? So she talks out the first time 699 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: she tried to leave him, and then she gets like 700 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: suckered back into it and that sinking feeling of knowing 701 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 1: I was almost out of this, but I came back 702 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: because I thought you really loved me. And now you're 703 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 1: telling me this whole time I was pick number two, 704 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 1: Like I could have gone off without feeling guilty before. 705 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: It's gross. It is really Yeah, Well, she gets her, 706 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 1: she gets her payback. With the keith of it all. 707 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: Why yeah, I still I stand by it. We got robbed. 708 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to see Barbara and Craig schefferd make out 709 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: so bad because there was so much chemistry. Do you 710 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: think it's like a director's cut somewhere. We gotta ask 711 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: Barb like did they actually shoot a love scene? Did 712 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 1: it not make it? Because remember our scripts were so long, 713 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: you guys, we would shoot so much stuff that would 714 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: get cut down. I get so pissed. I did a 715 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: whole storyline once. There's an episode in season two I 716 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: think that I'm not in because I shot an entire 717 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: like storyline that was separate from everyone else about me 718 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: going to hang out with this foster kid. And I 719 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: remember episode it wasn't in. I'm like, we worked for 720 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: days on this, but it was just because we didn't 721 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: have any like well, we just we didn't have time. 722 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: That was always the thing. We didn't have time. I 723 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: remember when we did the in season three, the school 724 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: shooting episode, and I got to shoot this amazing monologue 725 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: just having a meltdown about you know what all these 726 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: news reporters were doing when like my best friend was 727 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: inside and how this was the worst day of our lives, 728 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: and like they were just trying to get sound bites 729 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: and they were like, yeah, we loved it. We didn't 730 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: have time, so they put it on the extra scenes 731 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: on the DVD at the end of the season. I 732 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: was like, cool, I'm really glad, I really glad. I'm 733 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: prepared for that, and just left my whole heart on 734 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: the floor. Though for like streaming services, do they have 735 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: extra scenes like that we used to have on the DVDs? 736 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: Is that a thing? Oh my god, I don't I 737 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: don't know either. I don't know how it could be, 738 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: Like do you have to own the DVD in order 739 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: to get all that bonus footage. Let's talk about Barry 740 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, because by the scene that he has 741 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: when Luke comes to see him, it's clear that like 742 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: he's having more trouble than Luke is having. Luke's doing 743 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: all the right things. He's going around, he's saying goodbye 744 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: to everyone, he's being an adult, you know, or is 745 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: as much adult as he can be, and he's trying 746 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: to right all the wrongs. And you see this coach 747 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: who doesn't have any children of his own, and who 748 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: knows what this boy is going through and has watched 749 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: his trajectory go from like smiling real big, like You're 750 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,720 Speaker 1: gonna be great. Take care of Keith Man. I love you, guys. 751 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 1: We find out that Keith has like gone to sit 752 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 1: with Whitey after every single home game win or lose, 753 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: when when Chad leans in and hugs him and we 754 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: see his face just crack over Chad's shoulder and then 755 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: he has to regroup as Chad pulls back out. They 756 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 1: were so good together. Yeah, and Barry, I mean, what 757 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: a force like man. Now as an adult, I'm like, God, 758 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: I wish I'd just gone to work on all the 759 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:33,439 Speaker 1: days Barry was working and I was. He was. He 760 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: was like a champion, like a nationally ranked champion in 761 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: like the Jeopardy game that they play in Bars, the 762 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: trivia game. I remember that I was there for some 763 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: of those nights. The other thing I noticed, too, is 764 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: that Barry Corbin has the most beautiful hands on the planet. 765 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,839 Speaker 1: Did you see him holding the basketball? And he's got 766 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,399 Speaker 1: these like angelic soft looking hands he does, which doesn't 767 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: make any sense because he's been like a ranch guy 768 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,760 Speaker 1: kind of life. What is that, Mike? What does he do? 769 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: Does he go home at night and like put basselin 770 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: on him and stick him in socks? What if Barry 771 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: got manicures on a regular basis. That would be fun. 772 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: I want Barry Corbin to become a TikTok influencer so badly, 773 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: just like teach us stuff, Barry, how do we take 774 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: care of our of our hands and horses? Hands and 775 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: horses with Barry hands and horses done? Um? Okay with 776 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: it's the new. It's the new, Bob Ross and I'm 777 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 1: so ready for um. You know what was fun to um? 778 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of the world of basketball on our show, I 779 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: got so geeked to see Brendan Kurs. Oh that's everyone 780 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: is guys. Brendan Kersh are sweet sweet basketball coordinator who 781 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: had been a basketball coach, who's just the loveliest man, 782 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: played the like you know, locker room medic in this episode, 783 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: and Brendan was with us through the entire course of 784 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: our show. One of James's best friends, Brendan kersh and 785 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 1: Lisa Goldstein, who played Millicent in the later seasons, ended 786 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: up getting married. Like isn't it crazy? Like such, he's 787 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: such a such a good suite, just like one Tree 788 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: Hill guy, I babysat his daughter for like five years. 789 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that man. And I forgot. 790 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: This was his first time on camera and it was 791 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: so fun to see him, and he, by the way, 792 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: was a good actor. He did a good job. Like 793 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, Brendan Kersh can act. 794 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: Could have heard more of this. As the seasons went on, 795 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: we got to to put more and more of our 796 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: own personal experiences into the show, and I think by 797 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 1: the time we reached this episode, we were so sick 798 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: of just shaking our pom poms at the games and 799 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 1: just going yeah, cool, oh yeah. The chance that we 800 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: were doing were real chance that I was doing in 801 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 1: high school at Park View, And so when I I 802 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 1: totally forgot that that we were doing like real cheers 803 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: that I knew that, I was like, guys, if we 804 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: do this, And so as we're doing like, let's go 805 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: Ravens in this episode, in my mind, I'm like, let's 806 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: go Patriots, And then when we say Ravens, I'm used, 807 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: I'm just like, hold on a second, my reality is 808 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: melding here. Um. But it was cool that we could 809 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: just like say, what are we supposed to be doing here? Oh? 810 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: I know, let's just do this. It's super easy, super fast, 811 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,720 Speaker 1: and and to have two different high schools to claim. 812 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: The Other thing that was really weird for me is 813 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: that Lucas missing the shot is exactly what happened in 814 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 1: our state championship game at Parkfet High School in football 815 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: my senior year. We went to States. We had been 816 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: undefeated for years, like all four years of high school, 817 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: totally undefeated. We go in the championship game is on 818 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: a college field where the goal posts are just a 819 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: little bit narrower than they are in a high school field, 820 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: and it came down to a field goal. One point 821 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: is all we needed, and this sweet, sweet boy who 822 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: shall remain nameless, was our kicker, and the ball hit 823 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: the goal post the same way that Lucas's shot hits 824 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,959 Speaker 1: the rim there and knowing that that kid just wants 825 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: to crawl into a hole and die, and so I 826 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: ran across the field and kissed him, um, which is 827 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: usually how I fixed things. But no one kissed Lucas. No, 828 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: he's just no. He had to go to the locker 829 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: room and get yelled at by day. I appreciate that 830 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: neither Brook or Peyton felt it was their responsibility. You know, 831 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,319 Speaker 1: Nathan taps him on the shoulder, they're there, pal, and 832 00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: everyone just lets him sit on the floor of the gym. Yeah, 833 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: and you you you have. I got plans tonight. I'm 834 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: so sorry. She's like, I'm getting married tonight. Everyone thinks 835 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: I've been talking about sex this whole time, but I'm 836 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: getting married. That is nuts. Did you know anybody that 837 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: was married super young like that? Like we had a 838 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: lot of chicks have babies in high school. That was 839 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 1: really common, but nobody. I don't think anybody was married. 840 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: She carried a duffel bag to Yeah, the duffel bag. 841 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: I was like, where are they going? Are they eloping? 842 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: Are they going to Vegas? Like, what's happening. I'm just 843 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: gonna wrap this little dress up, put a duffel bag. 844 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,919 Speaker 1: No one will know. I'm gone. Where are her parents? Well? 845 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: Do you remember that in later seasons? Maybe it's in 846 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: season two, there's like flashbacks to their wedding and you 847 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,439 Speaker 1: find out their parents. Oh my god, her parents were 848 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,879 Speaker 1: there because they had to give them permission. So here's 849 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,359 Speaker 1: what's crazy. I didn't I didn't remember almost any of 850 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 1: this episode, aside from are like winking, wink your face, 851 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: Like I forgot that that you know we did the 852 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: misdirect and that we plotted the whole thing to send 853 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: Nikki across, Like I have a sense memory of that. 854 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,439 Speaker 1: And also, yeah, but we used to go drinking there, 855 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: so I could have it could have been any Thursday night, 856 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,320 Speaker 1: Like I don't know that we were on set, but yeah, 857 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: I really remember, I think because we were all so like, 858 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, they're getting married. I remember so much 859 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: of the Nathan and Haley marriage storyline. I don't remember 860 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: any of my own. Yeah, it is bonkers to me 861 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 1: that we went with it and like stuck with it 862 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,280 Speaker 1: for years and then it worked, like it truly worked 863 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: and sent a really strange expectation for the rest of 864 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: the country of like, girl just made that kid, It'll 865 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: be fine. But then I guess death must have signed 866 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: the paperwork too, right, I don't know, because she went 867 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: to that basketball game knowing that Nathan was be married 868 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: after the basketball game and that she was going to 869 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: go burn Dan stuff and have sex with Keith. Like 870 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 1: that's a whole bag of weird. It's a lot that 871 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have trouble analyzing. Also, I just want to 872 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 1: keep going back to our glancing at each other. How 873 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: came us glancing at each other isn't a meme yet, 874 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: Like I just feel like I need that to be 875 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: the meme that we are the gift or whatever the 876 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 1: kids call it. Are there gifts? I feel like we 877 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: deserve gifts of us just looking at each other. Yeah, 878 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: I also feel like we need we need more like 879 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: gift stickers like an Instagram. Where are all the gifts 880 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 1: of our show? And those little stickers? So I don't know, 881 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Crafts and crafts, young technologically 882 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: brilliant listeners, Can you help us solve this mystery? The 883 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: greatest line of the whole show, besides the one about 884 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: Karen being staggering, you know what it is. I know 885 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: what it is Karen saying the line, and I didn't 886 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: remember where it came from because it became such a 887 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: thing in our show that it was ubiquitous. It was 888 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: who we were. And to see them Karen and tears, 889 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: not wanting to say goodbye to her son and saying 890 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:20,399 Speaker 1: there is only one tree hill and it's your Oh oh, 891 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: even I was so. I was so just like shot 892 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 1: in the heart by it. I took my notes and 893 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: I capitalized the words that she really emphasized with her intonation. 894 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 1: One and home and I was like, man, this is 895 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 1: well and it's the thing that like people bring us, 896 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, things to sign at conventions, and that is 897 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: always there. And it was really like the first time 898 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: the title of our show made sense. Um, we've done. 899 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: Everyone's like one tree Hill. What Everyone's like, why is it? 900 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: They're like, if we're going to wrap this up, we've 901 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 1: got to make sense of this. Um. But yes, it 902 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: is an iconic line from the show, amongst a ton 903 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: of other iconic material in this episode. Um. You know, 904 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: if it had ended here, it could it would have 905 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 1: been Okay. I'm so glad it didn't. Um. But I 906 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 1: feel like we were put in a really like healthy 907 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 1: spot that it wasn't like trauma. So many of our 908 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: cliffhangers in later seasons were all about trauma, and the 909 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: cliffhangers here were just really about feelings and well, I 910 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,479 Speaker 1: guess Dan's going through some trauma but we don't really care. Yeah, 911 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: it feels like karmac retribution on Dan's part. Fine, fine, 912 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't care. Let him Dan, Dan. Hey, do we 913 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: have any listener questions hit us? I think we do. Um. Oh, man, girl, 914 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 1: this is this is savage. Christine, what should trying to 915 00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 1: say here, what was your favorite and least favorite? It's 916 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 1: season one style, can I say everything? No, girl, you 917 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: rocked a halter top. You in a halter top was deadly. Yeah, 918 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: you know what I did like Actually, now that, now 919 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about it, the Night of the Boy 920 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,839 Speaker 1: Toy auction brooks little like sixties super outfit. I loved that, 921 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 1: but like the super low rise Hawaiian print skirts that 922 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with actual Hawaii, and like bad 923 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 1: tank tops, God just bury them, plase or burn them strift. 924 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: It was a really difficult thing to navigate. I have 925 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:41,319 Speaker 1: a very long torso it's an incredibly long You're no, 926 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 1: you're you're not doing yourself very kindly. You are just 927 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 1: very long. You are like a long, lean, elegant person. 928 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: My belly button doesn't sit where other people's belly button sits, 929 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 1: So when you have low rise things on the shirt 930 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 1: covers the belly button, then all you see is it's 931 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 1: just like strip a lash and it's not cute. And 932 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: every other girl had cute little belly buttons with their 933 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: little piercings and things hanging out. Oh god, mid just 934 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: are so hard. We're never going back to that right. No, no, no, 935 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:18,360 Speaker 1: just although I did, I did definitely see some things 936 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,919 Speaker 1: hitting the inner webs about how like fashion shows now 937 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 1: that things are back from COVID, Like people are doing 938 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 1: low right there, like the nineties are back and I'm like, 939 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 1: not for me or two thousand four or whatever they are. No, 940 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 1: we had those Rock and Republic genes and they were 941 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 1: so low. But that's the waist is not what held 942 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 1: the pant up. It's that the thighs were so tight 943 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: that the butt, the but part could be as like 944 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: open and weekly as possible. It's just the thighs held 945 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 1: everything up. It was a rough time, guys. It's it's 946 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,720 Speaker 1: a it's a no for me. Yeah, I mean okay, 947 00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 1: so your favorite was the sixties? What did you like? 948 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 1: What did you like for Peyton? Obviously where we know 949 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 1: you're not a fan of the Geese, there was a 950 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: lot of sorting out with Peyton. I think in the 951 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 1: season two I just wear thermal shirts and baby T 952 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 1: shirts the entire season, which is not my favorite thing either. Um. Yeah, 953 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: I was uncomfortable so much on this show until Carol 954 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: showed up in what season four? Um, I think that's yeah, 955 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: I kind of I always too, because I'm not good 956 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 1: at fashion in real life. I was so hesitant to 957 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: give my opinion on anything because it was like, well, 958 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, like I don't know, you guys tell 959 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,720 Speaker 1: me what I should be wearing. And as I've gotten older, 960 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,879 Speaker 1: I've learned that that's not a great idea unless it's 961 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: you putting me in a power suit, like you're the 962 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: only person addressed my body with its long, weird doors. Okay, yeah, 963 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: I mean I liked fashion on other people. Joy had 964 00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:01,320 Speaker 1: so many good looks, like her clothes. I honestly, Haley's 965 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: clothes were I know, they put her in that stupid hat, 966 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: they made up for it. Mostly her clothes were the best. Yeah. 967 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: She had that pretty and pink moment with the party 968 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 1: in Nathan's apartment and the dinner party with Nathan's family 969 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 1: was super cute. And her little foxy juicy seen this 970 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 1: episode well, and that cute like tank top peeking out 971 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: from that wide yeah last episode. I loved that. I'd 972 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 1: wear that now. Yeah, I'm telling she's a time traveler. 973 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah she really know all right, Thanks Christine for pointing 974 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 1: out our weaknesses. I appreciate you. We got another question 975 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 1: from page. She says, what was your schedule like when filming? 976 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 1: In between filming? Did you have a break between seasons 977 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 1: and what did you do for fun during that time? Um? Yeah, 978 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: we had a hiatus after every year, and so if 979 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 1: this aired in May, that means we would have shot 980 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 1: it in March ish April, March April. Yeah, because we 981 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: didn't have a long lead time, we would always go 982 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 1: till the end of April. So we ended filming not 983 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: knowing if we were going to be picked up because 984 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: they don't normally pick you up until end of May, 985 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: beginning of June, you know, Like, but then you've got 986 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: to be back at work July t which I know 987 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: because it was always two days after pay. So we 988 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: ended not really knowing what was going to happen. And 989 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 1: it's like, well do I go and try to book 990 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: a job, Like what do I do? What do you 991 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 1: do this summer after season one? Well, it's so hard 992 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 1: to try to book a job because most jobs won't 993 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 1: take you because your TV show has a thing called 994 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: first position, meaning they're the ones who basically own you. 995 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: And so if you get another job and then your 996 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 1: TV show gets picked up, then the job you're working 997 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 1: on is just screwed. So it was really hard. It 998 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 1: was really hard to find jobs that would fit in 999 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: that tiny hiatus window of May June because nothing, nothing 1000 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 1: gets done before July ninth, because it's the fourth of 1001 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 1: July in the US, So you had to kind of 1002 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: try to find something that would fit in there. And 1003 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: so yeah, I was like running around, you know, trying 1004 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: to work on little movies and learn stuff. And it 1005 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 1: definitely took me a couple of years, Like like you 1006 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 1: were saying with feedback with fashion, it took me a 1007 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 1: couple of years to be like, oh, yeah, I probably 1008 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't go do a job just because it shoots in 1009 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 1: my hiatus. If the script, girl, I'm not actually gonna 1010 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: learn anything there. But I was like, you know, twenty 1011 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 1: and I didn't know anything. So I made some really 1012 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 1: great movies and some that were not so great. But 1013 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: that's just part of the Yeah, I mean, that was 1014 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 1: the summer after Season one, I went and did my 1015 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: very first movie with Jason Ritter and Autumn Research and 1016 00:59:55,440 --> 01:00:00,120 Speaker 1: Beth Grant and Alison Janny and Cheryl Hines. Incredible was 1017 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 1: like summer camp and it was such an easy, chill 1018 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 1: set and our set had been so spastic that I 1019 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 1: was just like, what the heck is this? And like, 1020 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Jason was number one on the call sheet on that movie, 1021 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 1: A perfect human. He's a perfect human, and he was 1022 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 1: such a good leader, and I I felt like I 1023 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: learned a lot from him just about like empathy on 1024 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: set and not knowing what everyone's going through and making 1025 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: everything real light, like he keeps stuff light, but he's 1026 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 1: still really caring. And so that was a perfect person 1027 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 1: for me to work with after the chaos of One 1028 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Tree Hole because it really was like bananas on our set, 1029 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: and that was a safe place to land. Plus I 1030 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 1: went to Tennessee where a drink moonshine for the first time. 1031 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 1: That was pretty cool. And we would send karaoke at 1032 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 1: the Papa top Um. So I felt like I picked 1033 01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 1: those hiatus jobs just based on where they were, mean, 1034 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 1: because it was like New Orleans. You and I both 1035 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 1: did that. We both did New Orleans. We live in 1036 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 1: New Orleans for the summer. Yeah, I was like, I 1037 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: want to go there by done um, So yeah, it 1038 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 1: was you know, I think it was important for us 1039 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 1: to take breaks because we were shooting a show about 1040 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: school and we were shooting it kind of during like 1041 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 1: school year, and then we'd get our summers off, and 1042 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 1: so I still felt like I was in high school 1043 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 1: until we were what we were following the same cycle. 1044 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 1: By the way, I still kind of followed that cycle, 1045 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 1: like I do nothing. It's actually so funny. I remember 1046 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 1: Joy and I once we were like sitting around talking 1047 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 1: one night. We were like, hasn't been kind of weird? 1048 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: Do you think? Do you think are we like a 1049 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 1: little emotionally stunted because we were basically in high school 1050 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 1: til we were yes, yes, does it? Does it hold 1051 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: you back? And I was like, I don't know, maybe 1052 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 1: that's why we feel young and foxy and fabulous, Like 1053 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 1: maybe it's a positive thing. But yeah, it was very 1054 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 1: weird to to sort of repeat high school for the 1055 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: decade after high school. I mean, it's crazy. I tried 1056 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,920 Speaker 1: to explain. I've got all these people helping me with 1057 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 1: the renovation here, Like there's house painters and there's like 1058 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 1: carpenters and things, and they're all twenty five, and I 1059 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 1: think like, hey man, we're peers. And then I realized 1060 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm the old lady. They're like, hey, you're like my 1061 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 1: mom's age, and I'm just cool, tell me more kids. 1062 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 1: You're like, Wow, Mom's age, Mom's and I are hanging out. 1063 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 1: You guys like jin Blossoms. What baby? You want to 1064 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: spin a wheel? I want to get you to bed. 1065 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 1: I've been working so hard. I'm so proud of you 1066 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 1: than I mean same. I just wish I had a 1067 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 1: little time off and I could come help you. Lasyalo 1068 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 1: all right, wheel most likely to win the Nobel Peace Prize, 1069 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean probably you. You're the advocate. So Fie is like, 1070 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: is there a problem? I'm here to solve it? Check 1071 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: out the hook while my DJ disolves it. Oh my god, dear, 1072 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 1: I know you are a problem solver, and you are 1073 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 1: tenacious and infatiguable, and you have already made such a 1074 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 1: difference in so many people's lives. I think that's kind 1075 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 1: of like a no DA. So you don't get to 1076 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 1: fight me on that. That's a big duh. But you 1077 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 1: get to pick the person the character in the show. 1078 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 1: H gosh. I'm just trying to sit here and swallow 1079 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 1: you more than anybody. I was wearing my I'm a 1080 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 1: Voter shirt yesterday. Today I'm wearing my Tyler Hilton's shirt, Like, honestly, 1081 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 1: what would I do with that our cast to give 1082 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 1: me clothes. I love it. I love it. The urch 1083 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 1: is so good. Um gosh, a character on our show. 1084 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,240 Speaker 1: I would most likely win the Nobel Peace Prize. I mean, 1085 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 1: is it weird that Karen comes to mind? Like, I 1086 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 1: don't know why. I'm just like she was the most 1087 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 1: together person who was doing things like gentle Like in 1088 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,440 Speaker 1: the grown up years, was there anybody doing anything like 1089 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:29,280 Speaker 1: political or advocacy. We didn't really get into politics. I mean, 1090 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: mouth in the grown up years becomes a journal. Okay, 1091 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 1: so probably always big mouth. It's always mouth, but that's 1092 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 1: because he's perfect, like the rest of us are a mess. 1093 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 1: But you know he would he would probably be here. 1094 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 1: I love it. He would like he would tell some 1095 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 1: crazy story. He'd win a Pulitzer, and then he'd win 1096 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 1: a Nobel Peace Prize and all would be right to 1097 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 1: cover some like crazy injustice, shine a light on it. Okay, 1098 01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm into that, don't you think, set Um. I'm excited 1099 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 1: to come back for season two. I'm gonna level with you, 1100 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to address my hair in season two 1101 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 1: because I burnt it all off the summer between one 1102 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 1: and two. So once I get over that hurdle. It's 1103 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 1: an emotional block for me. Um, I can't wait to 1104 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 1: get into it because season two is bonkers. It's funny. 1105 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 1: I don't remember season two because we were having a 1106 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 1: really good time. Um, I love you so much. I 1107 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 1: want you to go get some rest. I want all 1108 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 1: of you to rest up, because season two is going 1109 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 1: to be a banger. Episode one is the desperate Kingdom 1110 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 1: of Love. God. That's okay, let's get desperate. Friends, We 1111 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 1: love you. We'll get desperate, but in a fun way. Hey, 1112 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. 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