1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know from house Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: There's Charles w Chuck Bryant and Jerry's over there, and 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: we got this guy. I am El Nino Tall other 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: tropical storms must bow before Nino. Po si nno. But 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: those of you who don't have la espanio, El Nino 7 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: is Spanish for Nino. That was the late great Chris 8 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Farley on Saturday Live back in the winter early spring 9 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: of when all anyone can talk about was El Nino. Yeah. 10 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to select to play. Uh 11 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: wave of mutilation by the Pixies. Is that about? Uh, 12 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: it's in the It's in the lyric of Kiss, Mermaids 13 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: Road Deal Nino walk the sands with the crustaceans. I 14 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 1: never realized that's what he was saying. Yeah, but writing 15 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: Neilno as sort of as you'll see, it's not a 16 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: way it's wrong. Black Francis, you know you were wrong, Charles. 17 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: Can we call him Charles Frank, But in the Pixies 18 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: he was black Francis. Yeah, he's back to black. Yeah Frank, 19 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: black black Frank, black man. I saw him in Uh, 20 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: that you and I are both lifelong Pixies fans, obviously, 21 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: but I saw him do a solo show. Uh. May 22 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: have been with the Catholics, even in a tiny little 23 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: bar in l A when I lived there and there 24 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: were I couldn't figure it out they were. I mean, 25 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: it's not like seventy people. I was like, why are 26 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: you playing here? And why aren't there a thousand other 27 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: people trying to get in here illegally? And he you know, 28 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: he's eight feet in front of me. Well, I mean 29 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: the Catholics were okay, but oh man, those albums are great. 30 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: Not door busting great. Oh I think that the Catholics 31 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: albums are really good. I like just playing numbers. Well, okay, 32 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: you know anyway, great show. Rode, Yeah, I know exactly 33 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: the line you're talking about. But I never realized Rode Nino. 34 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: He pronounces things oddly. Maybe he thought he yeah, I 35 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: don't know, I think that it was like Nino or 36 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: something like that. Or maybe he didn't mean the weather phenomenon. 37 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: Maybe he meant he got on the back of a 38 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: small boy and wrote around or the course or the 39 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: christ Child. Maybe because if you live in Spain or 40 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: Spanish speaking country, and you turn on say the weather channel. Uh, 41 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: they will say things like, well, the christ Child is 42 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: going to be way worse than the last time the 43 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: christ Child came around. That's what they say. Because El Nino, 44 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: we should say, when it's capitalized means the cry child, 45 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: that's right. If it's lower case, it just means the 46 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: boy in Spanish, but uppercase the baby Jesus. Yeah, and uh, 47 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: I never knew this until we researched this. Uh In Peru, 48 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: the Spanish colonizers coined that term when they discovered this 49 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: phenomenon themselves around Christmas. So how about that? Yeah, it 50 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: was pretty cool, I guess. And we should mention historically 51 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: this is nothing new. Uh No, they written records date 52 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: back to fifty and again of course, and there are 53 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: there's geological evidence that dates it back possibly if you 54 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: like Harvard Science as much as uh A hundred and 55 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: twenty four thousand years, because some scientists there are one 56 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: in particular examined annual deposits on Indonesian coral and said, hey, 57 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: I think this is this coral looks like it was 58 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: affected by El Nino d and four thousand years like 59 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: they I also saw they found evidence that um a 60 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: very early um Peruvian culture collapsed because of the climate 61 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: change brought about by El Nio. Interesting based on some 62 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: like the disappearance of some certain mollusk varieties. Yeah, pretty 63 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: cool stuff. So nothing new. We should probably tell people 64 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: if you don't know what El Nino is, what el 65 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: Nino is? Do you want see? Sure? I do like 66 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: I do with lots of things that don't understand. I 67 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: go to kids science websites. Yeah. I found one and said, 68 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: I was like, huh. I was reading this article three 69 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: times and I got to the bottom and it said 70 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: fifth grade Earth Science module. I was like, man, it 71 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: really helps. Uh. And that's just a tip from us 72 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: to you if you're a dumb adult, and then go 73 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: look to kids websites fifth grade about right there. Alright, 74 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: So here's the deal. Temperatures world Global temperatures depend a 75 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: lot on the ocean. Uh. Weather period. It depends a 76 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: lot on the temperature of the oceans. So if you 77 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: have a warm ocean, you're gonna have more rain in 78 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: that area, right Uh. And in the Pacific Ocean near 79 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: the equator, for the equatorial region where it's warm. Where 80 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: it's warm, you're gonna have the sun baking that water 81 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: on the surface, making it warmer, right, and then that 82 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: the rain that water heats up the air right above it. 83 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: That air rises, taking some of the moisture with it, 84 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: and it rises up meets cooler, drier air in the 85 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: in the atmosphere, that water vapor condenses and turns into rain. 86 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: There's your tropical thunderstorm boom. So that's part one, right. 87 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: And then in the Pacific specifically, there is a patch 88 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: of warm water that usually gets blown from the Eastern 89 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: Pacific to the Western Pacific, usually like clockwork. And when 90 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: that happens, everything is normal. Yes, these are trade winds 91 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: and they blow usually pretty consistently, but not always. Sometimes 92 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: they uh don't blow was heavy, and sometimes they change direction. Yeah, 93 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: So if the trade wind isn't blowing this warm water, 94 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: the rotation of the Earth on its axis actually pushes 95 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: the warm water towards the east rather than towards the west. 96 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: And when everything is normal and the trade winds blow 97 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: this warm water to the west, uh, in the wintertime, 98 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: the rainy season comes to places like East Asia, right, Yeah, 99 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: and then western Peru, the Eastern Pacific. It's kind of confusing, 100 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: so just refer to a map. As we're talking, um 101 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: is normally dry and cool, right, But if the trade 102 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: winds aren't there, like you say, to push that warm 103 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: water along, that warm water stays right where it is 104 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: off the coast of Peru in the eastern Pacific, and 105 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: all the weather in the world starts to change. And 106 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: this is what's called El Nino. That's right. And el 107 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: nino isn't It's not something that just affects that one 108 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: region out in the middle of nowhere in the ocean. 109 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: It affects climate, well, not climate, but whether all over 110 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: the world. Uh, in the US, um what you usually see. 111 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: And we'll talk more about this current El Nino that 112 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: we're in because we're in one winter, but typically in 113 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: the US it's gonna bean cooler and wetter weather in 114 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: the southern part of the United States, warmer weather in 115 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: the upper Midwest and Pacific northwest in Alaska. U A 116 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: fewer hurricanes, more typhoons globally, fewer Atlantic hurricanes, more Pacific typhoons. 117 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: I think, aren't they one and the same, like a 118 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: hurricane and a typhoon is just depending on where in 119 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: the world they are. I don't know, I think so, Yeah, 120 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. It depends on what you call it. 121 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna find out all right around the world. Um, 122 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: in Southeast Asia where it's um warm and dry. In 123 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: places like Australia, Uh, it's gonna be well warm and dry, 124 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: right like it can be dangerously dry, yes conditions right, 125 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: it'll it drier than normal because that that rain, the 126 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: rainy season isn't being brought over there by the trade 127 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: winds that yearly Southern Africa warm and dry, Central Africa wetter, 128 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: and then South America is sort of all over the place, um, 129 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: depending on where you are, from dry in the northeast 130 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: to wet in the west and south. So those are 131 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: the those are what ELNA will mean when it happens. 132 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: Usually the thing is um. This happens every two to 133 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: seven years, supposedly, UM. And it's actually only in fairly 134 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: recent times, since the early eighties, that science has really 135 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: sat up and paid attention to this, and it was 136 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: because they got caught off guard by one UM the 137 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: But throughout the study over the last like thirty something years, 138 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: we still don't have any idea what causes the trade 139 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: winds to stop. Basically some years that produces el Nino UM. 140 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: And that's a huge mystery and one that really if 141 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: we could solve that, we could figure it out, then 142 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: we could probably predict El Nino even further out, which is, 143 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: as we'll see, would save lives absolutely. Uh, well, why 144 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: don't we take a quick break here and we'll come 145 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: back and um talk a little bit more about the process. 146 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: All right, So you said every two to seven years, Yes, 147 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: I did, El Nino comes on stage and takes a bow. 148 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: Since we are the Pixies. Seriously, if you haven't seen 149 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 1: that Chris Farley bit, just go watch it. It's hilarious. 150 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: He's got like Carmen Miranda arm bands on and his 151 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: shirt and it's great. He liked to take his shirt off. 152 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: Didn't Yeah he did. He got laughs. So it took 153 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: We were talking about how El Nino um A afect 154 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: to weather, not just around like eastern Peru or making 155 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: it drier in Southeast Asia or Australia UM. And the 156 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: reason that it affects weather around the world is because 157 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: of the jet streams. There's a bunch of them and 158 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: basically the jet streams are where the stratosphere and the 159 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: troposphere meat. And uh, it's just to put really even 160 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: like less than fifth grade scientis. They're like rivers of 161 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: fast moving air in already moving air. It's a jet 162 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: stream basically up in the atmosphere, and they're basically like 163 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: conveyor belts around the world. They moved from west to east, right, 164 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: and they push things like warm air and cool air 165 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: and high pressure and low pressure in fronts and all 166 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: over the world. And when these things encounter other fronts 167 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: that are already there, they form weather, right or And 168 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: it's weird to think of weather as the lack of something, 169 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: but but having say, cool, dry weather, that's still that's 170 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: still weather. Usually think of weather as an event like 171 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: a thunderstorm or tornado or something like that. But weather 172 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: it can also be unusually dry or unusually cool weather too. Yeah. Weather, 173 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: it's just however it is right now? Is weather. It's 174 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: it's very it's very mellow. Uh. And the jet stream, 175 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: because of its massive power, can affect, uh, like like 176 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: thousands of miles away, things that you wouldn't think might 177 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: be affected or affected. Yeah, And so depending on where 178 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: you are in a jet stream, jet streams are characterized 179 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: by um troughs and ridges, right. And if you're underneath 180 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: a ridge, things usually tend to stay warm and dry, 181 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: and if you're under a trough, it's usually cold and wet. So, 182 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: like you said, inn Alnno, the southeastern United States usually 183 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: sitting right underneath a trough in the jet stream, which 184 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: means it's colder and mother than usual. Right, Yeah, well 185 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: that's why because of the jet stream, people blame it 186 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: on the Alnno, and the Alnno started the whole thing 187 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: like this, this weather wouldn't be happening. But the reason 188 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: that al Nino is distributed throughout the the world is 189 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: because of the jet stream. So it's this very extraordinarily 190 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: complex system working in concert with one another to wreak havoc. Yes, 191 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: for the most part, el Nino. You know, we said 192 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: every two to seven years is when we get one. 193 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: And um, climatologists and weather people and meteorologist what else 194 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: can I call them? Um uh weather bugs, weather bugs. 195 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: They look at patterns and you can't just say anytime 196 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: like oh, things are heating up a little bit, it's 197 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: al Nino. Their specific conditions, Um, they look in particular 198 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: and you can say that, but you'll get shouted down, 199 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: you know. Meteorologist. Yeah, they love shouting. Um. They look 200 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: at ocean tibatures, mainly in the Pacific, and when they 201 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: find a point nine degree fahrenheit or point five degrees 202 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: celsius right is in the water, and then the conditions 203 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: start to sort of act like we're talking about before 204 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: with the wind um, they say, all right, let's take 205 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: a look at this and start charting at everybody, and 206 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: everyone gets real excited in the office. And what they 207 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: need is five overlapping three month periods for that to 208 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: be officially classified as Elnno. Otherwise it's just like you said, weather, 209 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: but it all starts with the sea surface temperature. Um. 210 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: That's what they call it, staying warmer, being warmer than usual. Yeah. 211 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: And right now we are officially in the strongest El 212 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: Nino on record, Yes, at a three point one degree 213 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: rise fahrenheit and peak wow. And like El Nino conditions 214 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: start at point nine degrees yeah, and we're at three 215 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: point one yeah. And one of the other we'll talk 216 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: about some of the other big ones, but the one 217 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: in UH I believe that Chris Farley referenced was that 218 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: peaked at two point eight. So this is officially the strongest, 219 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: although it's not really having the same result as what 220 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: you would imagine as the strongest, right, so you you 221 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: would guess and you would probably be um, you wouldn't 222 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: be shouted at in the meteor meteorological conference if you 223 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: guess this. But warmer weather, warmer surface CE Service temperatures 224 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: should lead to worse weather conditions, drier Indonesia, whether in 225 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: the southeastern United States, and that's just not happening this time. 226 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: Well it is, but not to the degree that they 227 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: thought it would, right, but not even not even to 228 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: the degree where, oh this is this is just slightly 229 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: worse than it was in It's actually not nearly as 230 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: bad as it was in like even though the ce 231 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: Service temperature is higher, and they can't explain that either, No, 232 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: they can't, and they're blaming it on climate change. They're 233 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: saying it's climate change is definitely doing something what exactly 234 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: we don't know. And again, the whole thing dates back 235 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: to the or the whole study of it dates back 236 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: to UM nine two eight three season. Right, Yeah, that 237 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: was when UH meteorology was in its infancy, right, well, 238 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: not exactly but sort of, because they had an al 239 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: Nenio year then and they thought, hey, I think what's 240 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: going on. Is this volcano Mexico l Chon erupted and 241 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: that's wreaking havoc everywhere. That's gotta be what it is. Yeah, 242 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: they later were like, oh wait a minute, things are 243 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: normal now. It wasn't the volcano, it's what what could 244 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: it be? Well, the well And the reason that it 245 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: really got their attention is by the time the al 246 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: Neno conditions ended, there was like eighty billion dollars worth 247 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: of damage worldwide, property damage I think um and something 248 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: like two thousand people had lost their lives. So it 249 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: really made these meteorologist sit up and take notice. And 250 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: so agencies like Noah started to drop booi's in the 251 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: Pacific Ocean. They started um using weather balloons to study 252 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: air temperatures in the area and really started tracking the 253 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: whole thing to see what was going on into to 254 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: notice any changes. And that's when like El Nino study 255 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: really started in earnest uh. Yeah. And there's also we 256 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: should mention La Nina, which is what's known as his 257 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: sister to El Nino, appropriately titled, and that is when 258 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: the trade winds actually picked back up and are stronger 259 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: than normal. Right, And the fact that it's capitalized suggests 260 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: that it's the girl christ child, right. I guess maybe 261 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: El Nino La Nina both capitalized. I don't know, a 262 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: little odd uh, and each of these phenomenon are about 263 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: nine to twelve months long, uh, developing the spring. They 264 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: peeked in the autumn or winter, and then weekend in 265 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: the following spring and early summer. So like right now, 266 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: when this El Nino, when they finally were like, all right, 267 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: we're getting another El Nino, everyone in southern California, We're 268 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: was jumping up and down because they're uh in the 269 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: midst of a long drought, and they thought, we're gonna 270 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: get tons of rain like we did ninety seven, and 271 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: it's going to really help fill the coughs. And it 272 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: just hasn't banned out that way. They got a lot 273 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: of rain in January, but nothing compared to California really 274 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: angered God. When they elected Schwartzeneger, what it was you 275 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: would pay and chuck um, I think you said La 276 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: Nina doesn't always follow Al Nino. I don't think so. Well, 277 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't always follow El Nino. It's not guaranteed that 278 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: when you have El Nino, you're going to have La Nina. 279 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: But la nin Yeah, it's basically the opposite. The trade 280 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: winds not only blow the way they're supposed to, they 281 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: blow even more than ever before. And it's really crazy 282 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: dry where it's supposed to be. It's really crazy wet 283 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be wet um. And then there's 284 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: a period in between, a neutral period where nothing's freaky. 285 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: That's called regular weather. Right. And if you put all 286 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: this together El Nino, the neutral period and La nin Ya, 287 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: you have what's called the El Nino Southern oscillation or 288 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: and so, which if you are a weather bug or 289 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: a meteorologist, this is probably how you refer to El 290 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: Nino as the uh Eleno Southern oscillations. Yes, very nice, 291 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: and so do you want to take a break. Let's 292 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: take a break, Okay, all right, So we talked about 293 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: some of the effects on local weather in different parts 294 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: of the world for Elena, but that is uh not 295 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: the only issue we we talked about. It wreaking havoc. 296 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: It's not just oh it's raining a lot and it 297 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't be, or oh it's super dry, like devastating effects, 298 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: billions of dollars and lives loss globally all over the place, 299 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: so the Chris Farley one, let's just call it the 300 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: Farley Alenia. Um, by the time that was over, I 301 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: think you said earlier thirty three billion dollars in damage. 302 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: Oh I thought it was like eighty billion. I'm sorry, 303 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: I I I exaggerated. Maybe it would be eighty billion today. No, 304 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: I was talking about the early eighties when I said 305 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: eighty billion. I see now it's eight billion wrong, So 306 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: please go ahead. There's still a lot of money. So 307 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: thirty three billion in damage for half a billion in 308 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: California alone, and uh, it's a you know, a big deal. 309 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: If you're an island in the Pacific, you rely on 310 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: that rain for life, for fresh water, Yeah, wash your hair, sure, 311 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: all that jazz so food crops they're gonna suffer. Well yeah, 312 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: I mean drought is really bad for it. But also 313 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: so it is too much rain too can actually ruin 314 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: crops um, it's all. It also has a tremendous effect 315 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: on um like property as well. Oh yeah, I mean 316 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: if you live on this side of a hill in 317 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, you might slide off of that hill and 318 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: into the ocean below. Yeah. Where was that one? Um, 319 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: there's a place in I think in the eighties. Oh yeah, 320 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: in Peru. There is a place in Peru that normally 321 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: gets about six inches of rain. Oh yeah, that one. Yeah, 322 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: And for the nineteen eighty two eighty three El Nino, 323 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: it got eleven feet. Yeah. You can't normally get how 324 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: many inches six six inches and go to eleven feet 325 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: and not have like serious damage done. Right, And for 326 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 1: those of you not in the US or Liberia who 327 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: weren't just like, wow, normally as place in Prue gets 328 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: six fifteen centimeters of rain, and they got three meters 329 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: of rain that year. Now, everybody's duly impressed. Uh. Fisheries 330 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: are also affected. Um, this is one that I did 331 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: not know. Anchovies. I love that cold water off the 332 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: coast of Peru. But when that cold water is not there, 333 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: they say, I'm swimming to where it's cold. And so 334 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: fisheries either scramble to make up for that in other ways, 335 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: or if they get warning like they get now, they say, hey, 336 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: why don't we fish for something that likes cold water 337 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: and shrimp a little baby krill and shrimp shrimp, because 338 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: you can do a lot of different stuff with shrimp. 339 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, Oh boy, would 340 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: you like me to list them off, No, Bubba gump. 341 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: So uh, it's also affects just the health of individuals. 342 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: UM disease carrying rodents and insects, are you know, gonna 343 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: be more prolific in the wet weather. Malaria UM is 344 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: going to increase when it's unusually wet and warm, and 345 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: when it is and usually wet and warm, things like 346 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: diseases tend to spread a lot more easily. Mosquitoes breed 347 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: very easily, Yeah, which would account for the malaria right threefold? Right, 348 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: did you say threefold increase in Not in Peru, there 349 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: was a threefold increase in malaria because there were just 350 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: that many more miss squito's biting people. Yeah, and that's 351 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: wet conditions. UM in Indonesia had twenty four million acres 352 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: or seven point seven million hector's, like that of of 353 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: unchecked forest fires. Yeah, that's that's devastating to the region. 354 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and it was because again they're expecting a 355 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 1: rainy season and instead they got a drought, and Indonesia 356 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: in particular got well, it got screwed over by nature. Okay, 357 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna come out and say it. Because they 358 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: had the warm conditions from uh, the from Southeast Asia 359 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: pushing into their that area, and then well they're in 360 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: Southeast Asia. But the majority of Southeast Asia got warmer 361 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: than usual conditions, and then Australia had drier than usual conditions, 362 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: and these two conditions pushed together and overlapped and made 363 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: a Venn diagram, and that the center of the Venn 364 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: diagram fell directly over Indonesia. So Indonesia was like, we 365 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: didn't ellect Schwarzenegger, what's going on? And uh it burned 366 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, Yeah, twenty four million acres. 367 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Uh, California, Southern California, it's not over for 368 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: you yet. Uh. They said that there could still be 369 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: some rough storms into March. But um, you're not going 370 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: to solve your drought problem, even if it was a 371 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: strong al neno, you know, or if the strong almenio 372 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: led to like like massive amounts of rain. Well supposedly, 373 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: also when you get a lot of rain to um, 374 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: it's really dangerous because if you've been through a drought 375 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: too much at once. Yes, because tree roots during a 376 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: drought come back up towards the surface because they're trying 377 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: to get all the water they can. So these trees 378 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: have shallow roots, so in influx or delusion of water 379 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: just goes right underneath the trees and they fall over. Yeah, 380 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: that happened in Atlanta a few years ago. And I 381 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: may have even told the story of the guy who 382 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: got killed in front of my house. Oh yeah, you did. 383 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: I forgot about that. I mean, thirty ft in front 384 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: of my house. A tree fell on a guy's truck. Death, 385 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: I know, And I think about that every time. We 386 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: have like massive amounts of rain for days and days 387 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: at a time, and I start to see trees down 388 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: when I'm driving, I start to look around, you know, 389 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: pay attention. Not that there's much you can do. No, 390 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: I mean maybe if he saw a tree falling, you 391 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: could jet out of there. But you know, you gotta 392 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: go the right way. It's true, you know, the tree 393 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: is a large swath. There was an actress in Chicago. 394 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: She's on TV. I don't remember what show, but she 395 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: was riding her biking. A tree fell over and killed her. 396 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: Tree falling over and killing you randomly is the like 397 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: your number is up. There's there's how how can you 398 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: think of the universe as being that random? It just 399 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: it almost is like, I know, like fate showing its hand, Like, yeah, 400 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: you're sitting at a stop fly and the tree falls 401 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: in your car and kills you, then that's definitely. Or 402 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: physically moving past the Triana bike and it falls over. 403 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: The timing is that perfect that it kills you. There 404 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: was some movie where, uh, some one of those disaster 405 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: movies where these large towers were falling and you know, 406 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: people were trying to outrun it by going like north 407 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: or the same direction. I can't remember what it was, 408 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: but I just remember thinking like just go left or right. 409 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: It's the same things, like don't go into the house. 410 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: No reason for you to go into the house. It's 411 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: just it's their movie tropes. I get it. Yeah, Uh, 412 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: do you have anything else or yeah. So we talked 413 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: a little bit about climate change, um, affecting al Nino 414 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: and and like the general consensus is that yes, it 415 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: is going to affect al Nino. It's already affecting all Nino, 416 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: and unsettlingly, it's affecting al Nino in ways that are 417 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: wildly unpredictable to the current models we have right. Um, 418 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: and there's this, uh, this blogger on climate dot gov 419 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: named Tim de Liberto. I'm probably over pronouncing his name 420 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: a little bit, but he uh hes, he likens um 421 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: the end. So to the light in like a dining 422 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: room is controlled by a dimmer switch, right, And actually, 423 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: because it's kind of complex, there's a bunch of different 424 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: dimmer switches, but all of them control this one light 425 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: that is and so, and he says, climate change is 426 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: like this brady kid that comes in the room and 427 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: just starts messing with all the dimmer switches. It's gonna 428 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: affect the lights, but in all sorts of different ways 429 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: that are really tough to predict. And he's basically saying, 430 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: like we we were. We were caught with our our 431 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: guard down in nWo, and we did a lot to 432 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: to make up for that. And now it's so great 433 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: that we can tell farmers in Peru go plant in 434 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: dry areas and you're gonna have a great crop this 435 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: year shrimp, right, which is basically magic. This is what 436 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: their shaman used to do a couple of thousand years ago. 437 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: We're now doing right, um, which is pretty cool if 438 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: you ask me. But um, now we're caught with our 439 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: guard down again apparently, and we're gonna have to figure 440 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: it out. And by we, I mean they and they 441 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: better hurry up. Yeah, and the prevailing thought that just 442 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: things beyond unpredictable or just going to be more severe. Yeah, 443 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: but it's actually that doesn't make any sense because it's 444 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: less severe this year, even though the service temperature is warmer. 445 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: He says to me, they don't know. I'll take away 446 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: from that story is that's my kind of dining room 447 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: because I love dimmer switches. I love dimmer switches to man. 448 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: If something will stand still long enough, I'll put a 449 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: dimmer switch on it. Yeah. I've got them all over 450 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: my house because why not have a dimmer switch. I 451 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: don't know, why just have a dumb switch. It's like 452 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: I can only be this bright on or off? Take 453 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: your pick, slim. Yeah, I mean this is two thousand 454 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: and sixteen, for God's sake. Yeah. So, um, we have 455 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: an Amazon Echo and I don't know what that is. 456 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: It's like the thing you talked to. It's the robot 457 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: that eavesdrops on on you while you're in your house. 458 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: Sounds neat um and it can't control lighting yet, but 459 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: it's like right there, and I can't wait. I can 460 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: be like turn the living room lights to what's the 461 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: purpose of this thing? It at its core, it's a 462 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: wireless Bluetooth speaker that responds to voice commands. Yes, that, 463 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: so you have a a house robot, as John Hodgment says, yes, 464 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: that is going to become sentient and kill you and 465 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: your wife in your sleep probably, but not for a 466 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: few decades um. And in the meantime, she's just eaves 467 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: dropping on us and feeding everything we say to the 468 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: n s A wow. You know, I did see a 469 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: thing the other day where I can't remember which brand 470 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: of TV, but one of them came out and said, hey, 471 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: you know that new smart TV. UM, it's actually always 472 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: listening to you, So watch what you say. Yeah, no, 473 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: everything that that has the capability well, your phone, like 474 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: if you look at apps and you're looking at the 475 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: permission that you give apps on your phone, go check 476 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: it out. It'll say, yeah, we have access to your microphone, 477 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: we have access to your video UM, and you're granting 478 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: them access, which means they can go in any time 479 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: or all the time and you've drop on what you're saying, 480 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: or watch you through your camera while you don't think 481 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: that it's it's on, Like over my laptop camera at least. Yes, 482 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: that's smart. But your phone is is very Have you 483 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: seen Citizen for not yet. Oh, it's been sitting there 484 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: on my TV. You need to see that. It's very enlightening. 485 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: For sure. They talk about that because apparently when Snowdon 486 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: came in the room, he like took everybody's phone, took 487 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: the batteries out and then put them in like the 488 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: mini fridge in the in the room. It was like, 489 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: now we can talk. Yeah, And he didn't realize he 490 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: was talking to human cyborgs that we're recording everything with 491 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: eye cameras. No. Well, actually they had a camera in 492 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: the room, which is the ironic thing, and he was talking. 493 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: He knew he was being filmed. He just, I guess, 494 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: wanted to control the flow of information. Well, if anyone 495 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: out there wants to hack into my laptop, I will 496 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: untape it for you and you will be subscribing to 497 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: the most boring TV show in the world. I thought 498 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna say, you'll take him on a wild ride. No, 499 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: Chuck sweeps the floor, Chuck cleans out cat poop and 500 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: forgets to put in a cat litter. What I think 501 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: it was on Internet round If we also talked about 502 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: um there was like a Russian website with nothing but 503 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: links to like baby cameras and security cameras around the 504 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: world's people who have poorly protected cameras. Yeah, because I 505 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: think the thing with the baby cams is they give 506 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: you a password out of the box, but you're supposed 507 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: to change them and if you don't, then it's easily hackable. 508 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: And they're hackable anyway, dude. I read stories where like 509 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: a lady went into her kid's bedroom with a camera 510 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: and heard someone talking back to the kids in Russian. Yeah, 511 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: it's like yelling at the kids. Every parents worst nightmare. 512 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: And that's one reason I don't have a video baby monitor, 513 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: and that usually Russians yell at babies through baby monitors 514 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: worse than usual during El Nino seasons. Try to bring 515 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: in a full circle. If you want to know more 516 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: about El Nino, type that word into the search bar 517 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: at how stuff works dot com. And since I said 518 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: christ Child, it's time for listener mail, I'm gonna call it. Well, 519 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, first, we got a couple of quick corrections. 520 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: Uh oh, yeah, milk does a body good. It does 521 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: skim Milk does not have hyprod dusk corn sort. Yeah, 522 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: I just got that one wrong. It was off the 523 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: cuff comment. But I have thought that a long time 524 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to think of where I heard it, 525 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: and I don't remember. I do not remember. It was 526 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: either like food ink or fed up or some documentary 527 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: about food or I just confabulated it. Sorry for that one. 528 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: It happens. Uh, there is some attitud it though, I 529 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: stand by that. I can't remember what it is. But uh, 530 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: it's not hfcp uh and A J. Hackett Boy, are 531 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: we sorry? New Zealand? Yeah. Uh. The inventor, one of 532 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: the forebearers of the bungee jump, was definitely not Australian. No, 533 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: he was a Kiwi. And I've been both places, so 534 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 1: I know the difference. Well, and you're the one who 535 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: said it, so you you, sir, New Zealand. And to 536 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: make it up, New Zealand, We're gonna come to a 537 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: show there one day and it's gonna be free. Actually 538 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: that's not true because we have to actually pay for 539 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: the trip. But I'd love to do a show there. 540 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: Let's do it. If we go to Australia, we gotta 541 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: go to New Zealand. Man, they kill us if we didn't. Plus, 542 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: I just want to Yeah, New Zealand beautiful. That's what 543 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: I've heard, all right, So onto listener mail. Uh, this 544 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: is just kind of a neat thing. That's what I'm 545 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: calling it. A neat thing. Hey, guys, one year ago today, 546 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: I proposed to my now wife, So I guess you 547 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: said yes using a custom New York Times cusword puzzle. 548 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: It sounds like something you'd do um and was entitled 549 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: It was entitled stuff you should know. I worked on 550 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: the puzzle with a New York Times puzzle creator uh, 551 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: and even got the official layout from the New York 552 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: Times magazine staff. The hotel staff where we were staying 553 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: that night swapped out the puzzle in our New York 554 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: Times crossword that was to be delivered the following morning. 555 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: Twelve to fifteen of the clues were tied to our relationship, 556 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: including the title of the puzzle. UH. From the finished puzzle, 557 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: the phrase I thought it said you will marry me? 558 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: That would be TV Will you Marry Me? Was spelled 559 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: out in the bubbles, so creative. My wife, Hannah and 560 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: I bonded early on through your podcast, and it has 561 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: remained a wonderful constant in our relationship. So thanks so 562 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: much for being great and then away being part of 563 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: one of the best days of my life, the day 564 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: I've proposed to my wife. That is three exclamation points. Um. 565 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: I've attached some of the photos from that day. I 566 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: looked at it and the guys telling the truth. Yeah, 567 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: his story checks out. You guys are great. Adam in Chicago. PS. 568 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: We saw you perform live at the Atheneum Theater here 569 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: and really enjoyed it. Keep up the good work, guys 570 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: for exclamation points. So he thinks we're doing a better 571 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: work than he enjoyed his own engagement. Yeah, and he 572 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: also said, you guys are great to exclamation points, so 573 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: I see where your priorities lay. Adam in Chicago, we 574 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: got six six exclamation points come by Adam and Hannah. 575 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: Way to go. I hope you guys stay married forever 576 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: and listen to us as part of your long lasting 577 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: flavor agreement legal agreement. Well, put Chuck, we just really 578 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: deflated that dude's name. Uh. 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