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Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk right away. He's an instant title contender.

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Speaker 1: What the hell does it feel like in sparring when

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Speaker 1: Where are we going with this?

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Speaker 2: I mean that's if you're still awake, you know what

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Speaker 1: We're trying. I hope this question doesn't end our friendship.

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Speaker 1: and finding a either a Mexican American or in this case,

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Speaker 1: a Mexican born superstar that can be sort of the

429
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Speaker 1: guy that, you know, legions of kids will grow up saying, hey,

430
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Speaker 1: that's cool, my dad likes boxing, but I want to

431
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Speaker 1: follow in the footsteps of this guy and get into MMA.

432
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Speaker 1: So there's certainly you know, interesting storylines there. But I

433
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Speaker 1: think what's most interesting for me, Rashad is the idea

434
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Speaker 1: that they're both turned around on three weeks notice, which

435
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Speaker 1: is you know wild. How does that factor into the

436
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Speaker 1: weight though? Because Figuredo missed weight to open the year

437
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Speaker 1: against Benavidez, made it in the second fight, finished him

438
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Speaker 1: in both to win the vacant title, and he seemed

439
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Speaker 1: to just barely make weight three weeks ago. You know,

440
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Speaker 1: even in the interview I did with him when he

441
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Speaker 1: had his shirt off full of swagger talking about fifty

442
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Speaker 1: cent being his sort of swag god that he gets

443
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Speaker 1: the influence of, he didn't look like there was any

444
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Speaker 1: more muscle or fat to lose off that body. So

445
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Speaker 1: in a three week turnaround, is that going to make

446
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Speaker 1: it easier or harder to make weight for this fight?

447
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Speaker 1: Given what your body goes through in between the three weeks?

448
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Speaker 2: Is going to make it easier for Figuredo to definitely

449
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Speaker 2: keep his weight into control because he hasn't allowed his

450
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Speaker 2: way to get out of control. You know, it usually

451
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Speaker 2: comes when you balloon up after you get done from

452
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Speaker 2: fighting and you celebrate with a bunch of bad food

453
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Speaker 2: and just kind of a relaxed living style. But he

454
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Speaker 2: hasn't had a chance to have that relaxed living style

455
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Speaker 2: because after he got done from that fight, he was

456
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Speaker 2: already set to fight three weeks later, and he's been

457
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Speaker 2: staying at the PI and just getting some of the

458
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Speaker 2: best training that he's ever had, you know, throughout this

459
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Speaker 2: whole year and probably in his whole career, being able

460
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Speaker 2: to have the PI at his access and be able

461
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Speaker 2: to have all the luxuries that comes along with that.

462
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Speaker 2: So now we're looking at a guy who's able to

463
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Speaker 2: have you know, better meals planned as well too with

464
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Speaker 2: the PI and working with the nutritionist. So we're probably

465
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Speaker 2: looking at a more primed Davison Figuredo being the fact

466
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Speaker 2: that he's able to probably get all the things that

467
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Speaker 2: were kind of getting away from him before under control.

468
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Speaker 2: You know, I think that this three weeks is fast

469
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Speaker 2: turned around. It definitely favors Figuredo more.

470
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Speaker 1: Than it does Moreno, and this fight will play very

471
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Speaker 1: interestingly into the Fighter of the Year discussion. Look, I

472
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Speaker 1: think today, you know, God forbid. And by the way,

473
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Speaker 1: three fights on this two fifty six card were either

474
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Speaker 1: pulled or altered just in the last forty eight hours

475
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Speaker 1: due to COVID and of course we saw how last

476
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Speaker 1: week's UFC Fight Night card was down to about seven

477
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Speaker 1: or eight fights left. If this fight should get canceled

478
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Speaker 1: or whatever, I feel like Davison Figuredo is your fighter

479
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Speaker 1: of the year right now. Three and zero three finishes,

480
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Speaker 1: captured the flywhit title sort of made the division his own.

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Speaker 1: But shot if he wins this one. I mean, there

482
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Speaker 1: ain't a conversation in my book, with full respect to

483
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Speaker 1: Jan Blojowitz or Comzad or anybody else. Kevin Holland, who's

484
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Speaker 1: had a great year, where do you stand on no

485
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Speaker 1: Fighter of the Year debate?

486
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I gotta go with you, And I

487
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: mean there a lot of great fighters of the year,

488
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Speaker 2: but when it comes to those who like captured Gold

489
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Speaker 2: and that has the kind of same ramifications, I don't

490
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Speaker 2: think anyone compares to Davison figure Retto. I mean, we've

491
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Speaker 2: seen some great fighting out of Kevin Holland and many

492
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Speaker 2: names that you mentioned. You know, Hamsaut has definitely etched

493
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Speaker 2: his name in our minds for the one seventy pound

494
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Speaker 2: weight class or the one eighty five pound weight class,

495
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Speaker 2: so you know he's competing in the likes of those guys.

496
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Speaker 2: But when it comes to just what he's been able

497
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Speaker 2: to accomplish and how he's been able to do it,

498
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Speaker 2: And I think that he's injected a life in this

499
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Speaker 2: one twenty five weight class that was desperately needed, you know.

500
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Speaker 2: I mean, Demetris Johnson was one of the most exciting

501
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 2: featherweights of all time, but at the same time, he

502
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Speaker 2: didn't garner the same respect because the competition wasn't where

503
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Speaker 2: it needed to be. And then we've seen a little

504
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Speaker 2: bit of revival with the Henry sehudo, but then Henry

505
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Speaker 2: left and left that weight class soon after. But I

506
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Speaker 2: think now we're seeing someone who is a true one

507
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Speaker 2: twenty and truly has the power, the speed, the excitement

508
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: and all these different things. And not for nothing, he's

509
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Speaker 2: got a weight class around to support him and his

510
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Speaker 2: greatness because the competition has risen to the level.

511
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, there are gonna be fun fights to

512
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Speaker 1: make for the winner of this, whether it's Cody Garbrand,

513
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: ascar Askarov. I mean, you got some fun, fun contenders there,

514
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Speaker 1: and also obviously shout out Israel alas Sonya's had a

515
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,239
Speaker 1: year that puts him in discussion. Valentina Chefchenko. I mean

516
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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of you know, it's gonna be

517
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Speaker 1: a fun debate with how weird this year was. When

518
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Speaker 1: we do get into awards, let's hit this Cole main event.

519
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Speaker 1: Tony Ferguson back after the chance he took in May

520
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: when he lost the vacant I'm sorry the interim lightweight

521
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: title bout to Justin Gatchee and lost it in fairly

522
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Speaker 1: brutal but ballsy fashion in a fifth round stoppage. He's

523
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Speaker 1: gonna come back here against Doe Bronx. Charles OLIVERA good

524
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Speaker 1: god shot. This thing is good. I mean, my underwear

525
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: is on fire with fireworks right now. They's nothing to

526
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Speaker 1: do with the fight. It's good fight too, though, But

527
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Speaker 1: Rashad plus one forty five for Doe Bronx minus won

528
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: seventy for Tony Ferguson. That tells you right there how

529
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Speaker 1: how close and great this is. But I've been in

530
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Speaker 1: arguments with different people where I'm telling you were shot.

531
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Speaker 1: There's almost a quasi number one contender element to this

532
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Speaker 1: fight because I don't think Kobib's gonna fight again. My

533
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: take his words, my take same. You know, they line

534
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: up Dana. In cryptic tweets from Ali seem to be

535
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: the only people saying otherwise. But uh, I still believe

536
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a vacant title at stake for Connor

537
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: and Dustin in January. But even if you don't, you'd

538
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Speaker 1: have to believe the winner of that fight could be

539
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Speaker 1: facing the winner of this fight for that vacant title

540
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Speaker 1: in the you know, in sometime in the early spring

541
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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one, do you have that same feeling

542
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Speaker 1: that this ain't just a good matchup on paper, but

543
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Speaker 1: the winner could really get jet packed right to the top.

544
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely feel that. You know, this fight has

545
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: a lot of ramifications with that, I mean, just the

546
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Speaker 2: way the way class is right now, it is prime

547
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Speaker 2: for anybody to make a big splash. And if you'r

548
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: Charles Lavera, you know, who's new to the new upper

549
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: echelon of competition, then this is your opportunity. This is

550
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: your opportunity to really show out and show that you

551
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: really belong on this stage. And he definitely belongs on

552
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: the stage. I believe he has nineteen submissions, and you know,

553
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: he has a bunch of knockouts as well too, And

554
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: in a knockout aspect is something that he's getting more

555
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 2: comfortable with you know, before we've seen a very aggressive

556
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: submission style attack game, but now we see him more

557
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: using the strikes and just season the opportunistic submissions when

558
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: they come, which is a great formula if you're fighting

559
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: somebody like Tony Ferguson, who you know, you don't want

560
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: to have to try to take him down. You just

561
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: kind of want to be able to catch whatever you

562
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: can catch in the free, fluid freestyle fighting that you

563
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: know this is going to be. When it comes to

564
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Speaker 2: freestyle fighting, there's no one like Tony Ferguson. You know,

565
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: he's he's he's totally unorthodox in almost every single position

566
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: that he does, but there is there's a flow atry

567
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: and a poetry to what he does that's just absolutely beautiful.

568
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Speaker 2: You know, the way he comes with his elbows, the

569
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: way he transitions to the ground, the way he just

570
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: comes in sometimes and attack for a knee bar or

571
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: just whatever he does to get the fight where he

572
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: wants it to do. He's a big, a mixed bag

573
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: of nuts and he's gonna be This is gonna be

574
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: one of those fights where it's gonna be all about

575
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: who remains the most clever, but at the same time,

576
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: who's the meanest, who can inflict the most damage, and

577
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: who enjoys just going total tone and just bleeding shot.

578
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the embedded episode uh

579
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Speaker 1: UFC that came out yesterday. Not only did it unfortunately

580
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Speaker 1: steal the audio from my Brandon Moreno interview with no

581
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: credit right there shout out to UFC, but it showed

582
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: the king of snap Jitsu, Tony Ferguson, going down a

583
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 1: giant flight of stairs at the MCPI on his hands

584
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: were shot. Could you pull that off without getting paralyzed?

585
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: Because I can't watch.

586
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that, man, I mean, listen, that's that's

587
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: that's what Tony does. Though. Tony always finds a way

588
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 2: to do something unorthodox, but it works something. You know,

589
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: when he's going down, it works his shoulders and the

590
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: whole mobility with the animal crawl and a little you know,

591
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: little animalistic movies and stuff like that. But I mean,

592
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: that's just Tony Ferguson for you. Man. He's always going

593
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: to do something out the box that he feels it

594
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Speaker 2: works something. And I'm not sure what that works. I'm

595
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: just totally speculating. But it looks like it does something.

596
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't try it, but hey, if it works,

597
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 2: it works. You know.

598
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Speaker 1: I can't wait for this fight. I like this card,

599
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: by the way. I admit it's not you know, spectacular

600
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: on the top end, but there's a lot of interesting

601
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: storylines up and down on I mean, you got Mackenzie

602
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: Durnk coming back, you got how about this jocker Ay

603
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: Kevin Holland fight. Kevin Holland looking to go five and

604
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: oh this calendar year. Like we mentioned, he's a minus

605
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: one twenty five favorite against the plus one oh five

606
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: Ronaldo Susa. And what's interesting here is Kevin Holland was

607
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: supposed to fight last week right had he had the

608
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: damn COVID. He was supposed to fight Vittoria, I believe,

609
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: and then that got no. Victoria was supposed to fight Jockeray.

610
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: Holland was supposed to fight her Manson after Till pulled out.

611
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: UFC just did a full switcher through.

612
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: Do you think.

613
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: Jockeray is the perfect guy at forty one to show

614
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: us whether Kevin Holland really is for real?

615
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: I think so, and I think so primarily speaking because

616
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: you know, Jacqueray strikes well enough to get into range

617
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: to really impose the question that we really, you know,

618
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: really need to see with Kevin Holland was how legit

619
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: he is on the ground. I mean, listen, we know

620
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: that he's a Travis Luter trained assassin when it comes

621
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: to his jiu jitsu, But there's levels to just jiu jitsu.

622
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: You know, there's levels to this game on the ground,

623
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Speaker 2: and we just want to see what level Kevin Holland

624
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: is at, you know that. I mean when it comes

625
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: to just a pure fighter in somebody who loves fighting.

626
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: I haven't met too many people that enjoy fighting as

627
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: much as Kevin Holland. You know, I got a chance

628
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: to speak with him out there a few UFCS ago

629
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: when he fought in the car, and just a pure

630
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: excitement and enjoy that he gets out of fighting. It

631
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: is really unmatched on a sincere level by by a

632
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: lot of fighters that I meet. I mean, I meet

633
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: a lot of people who say they like fighting, but

634
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: I don't meet a lot of people who I feel truly, truly,

635
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: truly mean it from the bottom of the heart, like

636
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: they love fighting, like they love eating ice cream or

637
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: something like that. You know what I'm saying, like he

638
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: just he loves it like that, and you know that's

639
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: why he loves to challenge himself and all the trash

640
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: talking and things that he does. You know, that's just

641
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: to put the weight on his back, to let him

642
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: know that he can't get relaxed at all. And it's

643
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: going to be a great fight. And you have Jacquaray

644
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: who's in a position now, you know, being an older

645
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: guy when you have the younger guy coming up and

646
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: you know what it's looking like, you know that your

647
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: best days are behind you. It's a little bit gut

648
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: check time. It's like, Okay, how do you want to

649
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: go out? You know what I'm saying, I'm not going

650
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: to let this guy go out. And it's a bit

651
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: of an attitude thing, you know. So I think that

652
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: Jacquaray is definitely tapped back into that mentality that he

653
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: needs to compete against a young, hungry lion and Kevin Holland.

654
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: True or false, Rashad Jock Array will be challenging for

655
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: the Bellatore middleweight title in the year twenty twenty one.

656
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: No comment, man, Come on, PC, what you trying to do?

657
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: You try to get me in a fight here man.

658
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we got Moikano against Hafio Physia.

659
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: I love that one. Love Cup Swanson against Daniel Pineda.

660
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that that the t Sha Torrez fight against

661
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: what's Angela Hill is not gonna happen because Hill tested positive.

662
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: But you and I have been both Billy Hugh fans

663
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: Billy Quarantillo in this quarantine. He's got Gavin Tucker in

664
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: that early prelim main event Rashada. I've been high on

665
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: this guy. I mean, I'm following him on Twitter. I'm

666
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: fired up each time he fights. Is Billy h for real?

667
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: In your eyes?

668
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: Billy Cues for real? I mean, Western New York native

669
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: fighting out of Tampa. This guy is the real deal.

670
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: I mean when it comes to hands, when it comes

671
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: to wrestling, when it comes to grappling, when it comes

672
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: to mentality, this guy has it all, you know. And

673
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: he's one of those guys that we've seen from Dan

674
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: and White Contender series, jumping right in the mix of

675
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: things and just fighting at a different level. And that's

676
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: what you know. You see him h and every single

677
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: time he comes out, his another chink in the armor

678
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: that he's climbing and that he's getting better and better.

679
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: You just see it just coming together for him. So

680
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about what Billy Cues can do in

681
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: the future.

682
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: No shortage of storylines, Chase Hooper coming back from that

683
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: first defeat as well. Final fight. I want to ask

684
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: you about on this. I love Junior Dosanto's great interview.

685
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: His quote always is the same. I am the truth.

686
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: I am made out of truth. When I enter the cage,

687
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: all I do is bring truth. There's a lot of

688
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: truth there, true or false. For Shot, if he loses

689
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: the surrill God, will he be going in sixty seconds

690
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: with fourth straight knockout loss? Will he be looking for

691
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: a new job. This is a tough fight at thirty

692
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: six for JDS.

693
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might be in beltour he lose this fight.

694
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, not the same thing as Blatore,

695
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: but he might be looking for some other place of

696
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: employment because you know, you know, he's been a staple

697
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: for a while in the UFC, and he's been you know,

698
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: fighting the who's who. But right now, you know, the

699
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: strength of schedule is still pretty high for him. He's

700
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: still fighting guys that can get him out of there.

701
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: With the one punch knockout, you know, and you know

702
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: he's been falling on the bad end of that. But

703
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: now he's got a guy in Cero that that he can,

704
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: I feel, for the most part, use another wrinkle in

705
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: his game. And that's one thing that I want to

706
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: say here. I feel like so many athletes and so

707
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: many fighters, when they get a certain age, they want

708
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: to continue to fight the exact same way and they

709
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: can still be effective, but they got to change it

710
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: up a bit. They have to start doing more of

711
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: a of a grappling base, if you know what I'm saying.

712
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: If they were a striker, now they have to start

713
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: using more of the other tools that they have. Junior

714
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: de Sanples is a black belt. You know, we don't

715
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: get to see him use that enough. You know, he

716
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: has great striking to close the distance. Okay, now you

717
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: have great striking to close the distance. Let's not standing

718
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: there and shoot the fifty fifth with these guys that

719
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: you're striking with, because we know what headweight is that.

720
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: You know, whoever lands a big shot wins. Get a

721
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: guy on the ground, start working the other aspects that

722
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: he might not be so good at. That's my take

723
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: on Junior DeSanto's.

724
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in Junior's favor. You know, he had

725
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: a three fight win streak as recently is two years ago.

726
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: His three straight knockout losses have come against Absolute Studs

727
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: and Rosenstruk Blades and Nganu. But if he doesn't, to

728
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: your point, figure out a Glover to share Andre Orlowski

729
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: type extension in twilight to his career by switching things up,

730
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: that career will be over. Love the guy though Chaering

731
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: form plus three point forty underdog in this one. All right, rashad,

732
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: Let's move on here. Kayla Harrison, who interviewed by Luke

733
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: Thomas this week. Check it out. A lot of good

734
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: stuff about her, her life journey and her personal stuff

735
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: that's worth listening to. She's going to continue this PFL

736
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: offseason tour that she's going on. We recently saw her

737
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: score win on an LFA co main event. Now she

738
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: has booked a December se venteenth return at Titan FC

739
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: sixty six when she's gonna take on Josette Cotton if

740
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: you remember that name. Kayla Harrison defeated Cotton in just

741
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: her second pro fight a couple of years back. It

742
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: was a third round TKO if you're wondering what's going

743
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: on here. The PFL is not coming back until April,

744
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: I believe, of twenty twenty one, but they're allowing Kayla

745
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: to stay busy. Rashad. I like how she looked cutting

746
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: down to one forty five in her last fight, when

747
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: she turned that chick into a horror movie death right

748
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: there with all that blood around there. Uh, what are

749
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: you feeling about Kayla Harrison these days? Can she be

750
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: a legitimate featherweight contender rather than just having a one

751
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: to fifty five division created.

752
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: For I love Kyla Harrison. I think that she's, you know,

753
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: a true true specimen in whatever weight class that she

754
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: decides to fight. And I think that, you know, she

755
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: one thing about her is that she's she's gotten a

756
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: lot better and she's and she wants to get a

757
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 2: lot better, and that's why she wants to stay active.

758
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: You know, she wants to definitely haune those skills and

759
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: the crafts that she's been working on. You know, she's

760
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: been working on her stand up and working on you know,

761
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: closing the gap and trying to throw her judo in

762
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: a lot a lot smoother and things like that. But

763
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, she's she's one of those girls

764
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: that we're gonna be like wishing in the future that

765
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: that that she was in the UFC, just because it

766
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: would be such a dream mask matchup for her to

767
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: go against some of those tough girls in a weight class, uh,

768
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: in the UFC. And that's the thing, and that's the

769
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: kind of sad story with her, is the fact that

770
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: you know, she's such a great talent, but I mean

771
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: outside of the UFC, there really isn't anybody to really

772
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 2: test her in that capacity. You know, she's going against Cotton,

773
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: and Cotton has some really good hands, really good boxing

774
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: that she showed the last time. But for the most part,

775
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: you know, she can't recognize the shot and she can't

776
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: recognize what the dude want. She's on the ground. So

777
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: this is gonna be you know, bang bang, take them

778
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: down and just you know, ground and pound session for Kayla.

779
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: But you know, hats off to Kayla for for for

780
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: just stay active and looking to stay competing in different organizations.

781
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: That shows that she wants to get better and that

782
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: shows the vision that she has for herself.

783
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's smart from PFL too to

784
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: avoid some of this you know fighter uproar that they've

785
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: go they've gone through with that lawsuit and just you know,

786
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: they've had to push their season out. They didn't try

787
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: to come back in twenty twenty like like they were

788
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: supposed to. And you know, nobody wants to sit on

789
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: the shelf. So this seems smart. Kayla's eight and oh

790
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: three knockouts, three submissions, He's a physical specimen. Rashall. I

791
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: still wonder, given that PFL does have the relationship with

792
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: with ESPN, which is obviously the home, exclusive home for UFC,

793
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: and the fact that they are sort of letting her

794
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: go out and you know, she's being advertised as PFL champion,

795
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: million dollar winner, I wonder if there's something we don't

796
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: ever see, right, somebody moonlight in the UFC from another organization.

797
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: Right.

798
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: We kind of almost saw it with Fador when UFC

799
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: tried to make that super fight against Brock, you know,

800
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: after failing to make it against Randy Catour. But I

801
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: think you know, there was difficulties there with m One

802
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: and Vadim and all that bull crap. I'm wondering, Rashad,

803
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: if PFL has the ability or the fourth right or

804
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: the vision, or if this is even possible to somehow

805
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: keep her but maybe still let her go out for

806
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: a super fight with the UFC and if they would

807
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: be willing. You know, same thing with Belatore, because when

808
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 1: you look at the potential big fight names for Kayla

809
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: to actually prove herself against, you'd much rather see her

810
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: against a cyborg who's in Bellator or a two division

811
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: champion Amanda Nunas in the UFC than anyone else because

812
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: there isn't anyone else at one for five or one

813
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: fifty five. How do you see her future playing out?

814
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, is this PFL thing maybe you know, a

815
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: stepping stone to something bigger or can we work this out?

816
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: I think it may just be, you know, a stepping

817
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: stone to something bigger, because I think for the most part,

818
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: you know, they're not going to be able to feed her,

819
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 2: They're not going to be able to feed her the

820
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: competition that she needs, and at some point that's going

821
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: to cause the relationship to sour and disharmony where it

822
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: may cast things to end and her having to go

823
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: somewhere else. And I think that's where she's going to

824
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: get scooped up by an organization like UFC who can

825
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: definitely see that she can be, you know, somebody that

826
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: gives that one forty five way class that they have

827
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: some life, you know, and they can mark her as

828
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: she's a pretty girl. You know, she speaks well in

829
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: front of the camera and all those things that you have.

830
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: A star, you know, she's definitely a star. And I

831
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: just I just feel like at this point she's in

832
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: a good place because it's allowing her to get the

833
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 2: experience and it's allowing her to grow in the capacity

834
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: where she needs to, which is her hands and those

835
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: areas like that. But it's allowing her to grow in

836
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: a safe way where she's not competing against the best

837
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 2: girls in the world. And about time she does make

838
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: a way to an organization that has some real threat,

839
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: she'd be ready interesting.

840
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: And you can't you can't be fighting for a million

841
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: bucks for shoting right at that? Ain't bad this climate,

842
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: all right, So shout out to her. She's gonna do

843
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: big things. Speaking of PFL or shot there was big

844
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: news last week when boxing multi division champion and two

845
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: time Olympic gold medalist Clarissa Shields announced that she will

846
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: be coming over to PFL. She's gonna moonlight between both sports,

847
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: with the idea and goal of being a reigning major

848
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: world champion of both boxing and MMA. Parts of this

849
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: PFL deal appeared to be some soft touches in twenty

850
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: twenty one to get used to the sport, and then

851
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: maybe the idea of entering a season with them in

852
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and trying to really make this happen. Rashot,

853
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: I gotta feel like Clarissa is doing it right from

854
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: what we've seen on social media. And I'm not talking

855
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: about her war of words with Jake Paul over the

856
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: last twenty four hours on Twitter. I'm talking about the

857
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: pictures that the Guoat, as much as we really despise

858
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: that acronym because it's lame, has posted some really interesting

859
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: pictures and videos at Jackson Wink in New Mexico getting

860
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: to train with the likes of John Jones and Holly Holm. Rashad,

861
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: you can do a lot worse than those two, certainly,

862
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 1: How you know interesting can this be? How possible would

863
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: it be for her to make this transition when they

864
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: seem to be glowing down there and Jackson Wink saying,

865
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: you know, we haven't seen someone work this hard. We

866
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: haven't seen a natural athlete like this. Again, not a

867
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Speaker 1: knockout puncher in boxing, but she knows how to use

868
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: her hands, and she's twenty five, and I think she

869
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: might have that dog in her. If anyone can do it,

870
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: it might be her. Reshod.

871
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, anybody can do it, it might be her.

872
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: You know, she looks to be as if someone who

873
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: learns very fast. You know, she looks like to be

874
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: that she's a sponge, and that's where it's all going

875
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: to depend on, you know, how does she transition to

876
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: the ground aspect. Sometimes people just don't really react too

877
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: well on the ground. They don't really know how to

878
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: gauge the energy, so that no matter how much you

879
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: show them, they just really never learn to flow with

880
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and they end up tiring

881
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: themselves out before they ever end up getting themselves in

882
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: a position where they're able to get up or neutralize

883
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: any positions. So it all depends on their development on

884
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: the ground. But at the same time, she's at one

885
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: of the best gyms in the world. You know, you

886
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: have Greg Jackson, you have Mike Winkle John and you

887
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: have the list of great fighters who go to the

888
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: gym and Holly Holm is one of them who was

889
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: a boxer and can definitely help Clarissa with that transition

890
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: and help her with some areas where she might get

891
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: stuck at because she would know as a former boxer,

892
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: you know where she felt the most transition at and

893
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: where she felt like she needed the most help at.

894
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: So I think she's in a good place. But one

895
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: thing I would say, I would say this, and not

896
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: to talk bad about the wings and jacks thing, but

897
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: I would say this, I like and I believe that

898
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: they'll be able to turn her into a good MMA fighter.

899
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: I just don't want them to do what they did

900
00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: to Holly Holmes footwork.

901
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: Oh interesting to explain that for me, please.

902
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 2: Well, I just I feel like I feel like Holly

903
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: home used to have some of the best footwork in

904
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: the game. And I understand that boxing footwork is different

905
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: than MMA footwork, so you have to do you have

906
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: to plant your feet a little bit more to watch

907
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: out for the takedowns. But I felt as if like

908
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: they've planted Holly to the point where it too taken

909
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: away her movement. And Holly was such a good fighter

910
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 2: where she would throw with her movement in a cadence,

911
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: and it was like a really rhythmic thing that she

912
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: would do, and she would always be bouncing around on

913
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: her feet and it actually, you know, she had really

914
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: really good feet, but it really made it hard, you know,

915
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: to pin her around anywhere. You know, you couldn't corner

916
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: anyway because she has such great feet. I don't see

917
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: the same great feet, you know, I don't see the

918
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: same great feet that she used to have before. Now,

919
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: mind you, we are doing MMA and we can't make

920
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: our feet beat the ground as much. But at the

921
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: same time, there still needs to be some great footwork

922
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: on the outside that I just don't see from Holly anymore.

923
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 2: So if they can teach her the MMA, but also

924
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: a lot hard to keep her footwork than I'm off for. Yeah.

925
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: Look, I love Clarisa Shield. She's a great quote. She

926
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: goes after it. She wants to be great, Like when

927
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: she's calling herself the goat so early, she's doing an

928
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: Ali type thing saying, look, I'll fight anyone to prove

929
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: this to you. So I respect that she turned pro

930
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: at sixty eight, you know, unified all four titles at

931
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: sixty just one couple titles at fifty four, actively trying

932
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: to get down to welterweight to try to find anyone

933
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: in the lower weight classes who will come up to

934
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: face her, and now basically saying I want to prove

935
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: my greatness in this other sport. Now part of it

936
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: is financial related, and Clarissa has been very outspoken, along

937
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: with the likes of Heather Hardy, who had an MMA crossover,

938
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: Amanda Serrano, a current decorated boxing champion who's done a

939
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: little MMA and basically saying, look, we don't feel like

940
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: there's the same opportunities in boxing, the same pay, the

941
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: same respect, the same all that. So that's why they're

942
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: doing it. And you know, you can argue. I mean,

943
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: Clarissa has been showcased fairly consistently on Showtime main events,

944
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: so you know, obviously pay could be a different thing.

945
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: So I certainly respect what she's trying to do there.

946
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: But final question on this, Rashad, do you think Clorisa

947
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: would be better off trying to learn everything a little

948
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: bit to try to get a little well rounded, or

949
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: maybe trying to pick one lane separate from the punches.

950
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,479
Speaker 1: You know, Holly had the kickboxing background. I mean, would

951
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: you say go all your effort into wrestling or go

952
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: all your effort into kicks. Where would you sort of

953
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: go if you were training her in this transition?

954
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 2: You gotta sprinkle it around everywhere, just because with MMA,

955
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: you know, you have so many different positions where you

956
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: have to know if you're only only teaching and focus

957
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: on two of the major there's a bunch of transitions

958
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: that get in a way that can definitely gum you up,

959
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: you know, because what happens is if you're teaching them

960
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: boxing and you're teaching them wrestling, then they learn to compartmentalize.

961
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: With MMA, you got to break down the walls of compartmentalization,

962
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 2: and you have to learn how to blend and transition

963
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: from one discipline to the next. So teaching you a

964
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: little bit here, a little bit there, a little bit

965
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: there and then and having her understand the concepts behind

966
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: transition would do a lot better than having one discipline

967
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: versus you know, one discipline and another discipline.

968
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: Be interesting to watch. I mean, I'm in I'm in

969
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: on watching it at age twenty five. If she can

970
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: pull this off. Final main topic here, Rashade, We've got

971
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: a pretty interesting Thursday night Belatore card on the CBS

972
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: Sports Network main card beginning at ten Eastern, Preliminary card

973
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: beginning at eight Eastern on cbssports dot com. It's Belatour

974
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: two fifty four and it's women's flyweights. In the main event,

975
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: you're unbeating champion Alima Ley McFarlane, putting her second best

976
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: in Belatore history ten fight win streak on the line

977
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 1: under the Belatour banner against a very tough out here, Rashad.

978
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: The more you look at her in Brazil's Juliana Vasquez,

979
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: to the point where William Hill and basically every other

980
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: sports book has put the ten and o Velasquez as

981
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: you're betting favorite a slight one. This is gonna be interesting, Rashade.

982
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: At the very least, this has to be the toughest

983
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: test on paper of Alima Lay's run here as the

984
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: inaugural and only women's flyweight champion in Belatimore history. Do

985
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: you like the champions chances here?

986
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: I like the champions chances. I think that you know,

987
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 2: she has a really good chance. I mean, her ground

988
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: and her transitions on the ground are just next level,

989
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 2: you know, and she has a dog in her two

990
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: that you know she can sniff out and she knows

991
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: when the opponent is ready to get up out of there.

992
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: But not for nothing, she also has skills on her feet,

993
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: and I think the skills on her feet is going

994
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: to aid her big time in this fight, because she

995
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: has particularly a good overhand right punch that can definitely

996
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: land base somebody if it lands now. I say that

997
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: because her opponent velasqus. She has a tendency, very good

998
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 2: striker in a soft proposition, surgical with that left hand,

999
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: surgical with their movement on the outside, and very very precise,

1000
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: very prose prefise, precise fighter. But at the same time,

1001
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: what she does, and I think that McFarland's gonna be

1002
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,479
Speaker 2: able to take advantage of this, is she she leaves

1003
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: her head up a little tad too long, you know,

1004
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 2: almost straight up and down. When she's striking. She leaves

1005
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: it behind, and somebody like McFarland has ability to go

1006
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: high and then low to get you down on the ground.

1007
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: That could be a bad recipe because if she keeps

1008
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: her on the homes and dilemma, not knowing if she's

1009
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: gonna punch or she's gonna take her down, she can

1010
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: land and overhand right big time on.

1011
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: Her watching some tape though of Alaskaz. She's ice cold

1012
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: in there. She's very patient, poised, She's got a big

1013
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: left hand. She's a black belt in judo and rashad.

1014
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: She only trains with men in Brazil in the same

1015
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: gym as Anderson Silva and the Nog Brothers. This has

1016
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: created a you know, positively hardened woman who's ready to

1017
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: come in here and seize the title. Eleven and zero

1018
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: against ten and oh, this is a very good fight.

1019
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting. As you mentioned how Alima

1020
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: Lay's ground game can you know, transfer against the strong

1021
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: stand up and just the physical I mean, Velaska is

1022
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: a very big flyway gonna be taller and longer than

1023
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: the champ. Pineapple princess, is that what she's calling her?

1024
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Velaska she knows she talked about. You know,

1025
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: everybody knows me as a striker and know I have

1026
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: this judo, but I've been working on my ground and

1027
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: my ground is nothing to scoff at, and she's looking

1028
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: to go out there and impress on the ground. So

1029
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: it can be very interesting as Matt hits the ground,

1030
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: I mean, this fight hits the ground, and it most

1031
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: likely will. It's going to be interesting to see who

1032
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: has that jiu jitsu edge I mean, going into it,

1033
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: we think McFarland does. But from the sound of it,

1034
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: it sounds like Velaska has been really working hard, uh

1035
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: to close that gap.

1036
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, both have wins over the very sneaky Alejandro Lara

1037
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: there Azul Wow. Wow, somebody canceled this show already, all right,

1038
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: well so quickly on the undercard this col main event, uh,

1039
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: Mago med mago Metoff gonna make his military debut. That's

1040
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: a big signing for the promotion here. Not to be

1041
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: confused with the guy from the same name who fought

1042
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: in World Series of Fighting or the other Russian guy.

1043
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: This is the guy who's called the Lion. He has

1044
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: just one defeat professionally, and that came against current bantamwaight

1045
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 1: UFC champion Peter Yan. But oh by the way, Mago

1046
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: Medov also beat Peter Yan to hand him his only

1047
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: pro defeat back in a thriller in the ACB promotion

1048
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: in Russia for the title and Absolute Brawl Fun Fight

1049
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: their fun series. What's gonna be interesting is his debut

1050
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: is gonna be tough. It's gonna be against Matteus Matos

1051
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: or Matthias or however I'm butchering this Brazilian man's name.

1052
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: He fights with the Pitbull brothers, and his only pro

1053
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: defeat also came to peyotre Yan in the ACB promotion.

1054
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: So we got a little bit of Bengo here. This

1055
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: is gonna be fun. You got Matto saying Mago met

1056
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: has avoided him since back in Russia. I like these

1057
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: recent under the radar signings for Belchur, whether it's Habib's

1058
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: cousin or this guy Mago med Mago Medoff. As somewhat

1059
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: absurd as that name is, I got big respect for it, though,

1060
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: Rashad Rashadovich, who are you liking this one?

1061
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: This is a tough one to call. Man. I like.

1062
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: I like Maga Metoff, and I like him primarily because,

1063
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 2: you know, he uses a lot more of his grappling

1064
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: in there, and I think the grappling was the recipe

1065
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: that made it really hard for Peter Young. You know.

1066
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: I think that he was able to land some big

1067
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 2: strikes in there with Jon, but I think the grappling

1068
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: aspect also added a wrinkle in there to allow him

1069
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: to come back up to his feet and win some

1070
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: of those exchanges and kind of just like convolutified a

1071
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: little bit, but allow him to land the most the

1072
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: most significant strikes. You know, when I when I look

1073
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: at Matteo, I think, you know, he has amazing explosive,

1074
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 2: violent stand up, you know, but one thing that he

1075
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: lacks is is that pressure forward. Sometimes he allows himself

1076
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: to be pressured a little bit, and I think somebody

1077
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: against like a Maga Metoff, who can who can implement

1078
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 2: his striking as well as his grappling, I think that

1079
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: might be a bad recipe. But at the same time,

1080
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: Maga Matt has to watch that he doesn't close the

1081
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 2: distance too much and get caught in that very blistering

1082
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: fire in exchange from the tale who strikes and is

1083
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: very aggressive, and like when he strikes, it's almost like

1084
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: a different speed and intensity because he hits it like

1085
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: he's hitting He hits you like he's hitting paths with

1086
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 2: that same kind of explosiveness. Like after he throws a combination,

1087
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: he's gonna be able to sit down for two minutes.

1088
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: You know that it's a different kind of explosiveness when

1089
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: he throws his punches. And I think that Maga man

1090
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 2: is really gonna have to watch out for that.

1091
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to watch. Yamauchi missed wait this

1092
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: morning by four and a half pounds, so he has

1093
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: been pulled that fight from the main card. But if

1094
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: you want more on this belt or two fifty five card,

1095
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: check out CBS Sports HQ today two pm Eastern for

1096
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: your live Way In show featuring Rashad myself. We're gonna

1097
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: have interviews with Alima, Alee McFarlane, Big John McCarthy, the whole,

1098
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: the whole gang is gonna be there, so check that out. Oh, Rashad,

1099
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: that'll bet wrap up? Excuse me, the big topics of

1100
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: our week. We got a new segment today, Rashon. I

1101
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: don't know how this is gonna work. We're trying new

1102
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: segments left and right. Uh, sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit.

1103
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: This one's called Uh, Rashad's got so explaining.

1104
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,479
Speaker 2: To do deep.

1105
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: Premise is very clear for our deep dive here of

1106
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: the week, Rashod, I have deep with Dovith the interwebs

1107
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: to find the most awkward and ridiculous pictures that involve you, and.

1108
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.

1109
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: A background on this. Let's start off here with a

1110
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: little bit of young Rashad uh, can you explain the

1111
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: look here? Can we can we tease this this up? Gaff?

1112
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: Can we get the picture up there?

1113
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: What? Oh my gosh is this high school?

1114
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: What's going on here?

1115
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: So? This is college? This is Michigan State College. It

1116
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: was I think it is my senior year. You notice

1117
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: I had the blaze. It was kind of a little

1118
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 2: bagging on me, but I wanted to look good. I

1119
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: think it was I think I borrowed my teammates blazed in.

1120
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, you see a hairline, and you see the

1121
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: little the little the little little flip. Ever say it

1122
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 2: right there for the mustache. Goodn't girl much beyond that,

1123
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: But that was about it.

1124
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: Well, it's so you know, this is right around the

1125
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: year two thousand, with the size of that collar so

1126
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: shot out. Full disclosure, you haven't seen these pictures yet,

1127
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: which makes it funny. But you mentioned that trash stash.

1128
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: Did the ladies of Lancing enjoy that? I mean, where

1129
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: are we going with it?

1130
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: I mean, if you liked it, if you liked it.

1131
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: But I mean, for the most part, that was my

1132
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 2: attempt to try to show that I was a man.

1133
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 2: That was all I had. I just had like a

1134
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: little flavor say it?

1135
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: Who might make fun of you? Were absolute stud in college?

1136
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: Good think there's no pictures of me floating around here

1137
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: pre cell phone camera days. Rashad. You know, you are

1138
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: well known now according to anyone that follows me, for

1139
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: how well you're putting off pulling off post forty abs.

1140
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: But you didn't always have them tight abs there, Rashad.

1141
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: I found this picture of a very hung game for sure.

1142
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: What the hell's going on here?

1143
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: Oh? That was my that was my my damd Wayne's

1144
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: when he when he was a headweight boxer. When you

1145
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, that's remember that when he was

1146
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: remember remember that fight?

1147
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: What's that movie when he had the big gun?

1148
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?

1149
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that the Great White Hypers.

1150
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: The Great White hype. Yeah, that was that. So that

1151
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: was after my knee surgery. I was I was trying

1152
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: to get back in shape and and I wanted to, uh,

1153
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: you know, make my comeback. But I've allowed myself to

1154
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 2: get really round at that time, and I was in

1155
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: denial about it. You know, I wasn't denial about it.

1156
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: That's that's the funny part about that picture, because in

1157
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: my mind, I I thought I really had ads like

1158
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: those dudes to to the left and right of me.

1159
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: But on further review, it didn't look too good.

1160
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: It almost looks like as are trying to come out.

1161
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 2: They're trying.

1162
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the strong that's the funny part about it.

1163
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 3: Because the effort was there and the abs, it just

1164
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 3: wasn't enough, you know, not enough chisel in there. But

1165
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 3: you couldn't tell me nothing in that picture.

1166
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: That kind of looks like Corey Sandhagen to your to

1167
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: your left. All right, were these white folks I.

1168
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 2: Don't even know. I think they're let me see who.

1169
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: Oh they were fans, right, So that's.

1170
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: When I went to uh the I was in Exos.

1171
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: I was in Arizona, Exos, and I think those are

1172
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: the guys that was as I think Luke Luke rock

1173
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: Hole is with me around that time too.

1174
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: All right. That means that you guys probably had some

1175
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: sloppy d ms there. I don't know what you.

1176
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: But you were eating.

1177
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: Well, we've talked about your great rivalry with one Quentin

1178
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: Rampage Jackson. You guys are tearing doors off at the

1179
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: Tough House. I mean, it's great times, great oldies. What

1180
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: the hell's going on here? Though?

1181
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: Oh yes, this is for me and me and Rampage.

1182
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: We played German twins in this movie called Boss Level,

1183
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: which is now out on Hulu. You can watch it.

1184
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: It's streaming.

1185
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: I have no idea about this. I gotta check that out.

1186
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it should be streaming on Hulu right now.

1187
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: But me and Rampage a couple of years ago we

1188
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 2: played German Twins and then Joe karneh hand movie called

1189
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: Boss Level. And it was cool because this is really

1190
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 2: our first time that we got to spend this kind

1191
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 2: of time together since our fight. And uh, it was

1192
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: interesting because at first, you know, we kind of had

1193
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 2: the bravado from our fight. But then after a while,

1194
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: you know, he was like one of my old homeboys

1195
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: that that uh you know that that I know knew

1196
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: since college. And we had a good time. You know,

1197
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: we spent a lot of time together during this training camp,

1198
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: I mean during during this filming got this movie, and

1199
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: we trained together to a little bit.

1200
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: I like to hear that because I love Rampage. You know,

1201
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: he's ups and downs. He's a fun guy, right, Yeah.

1202
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: He's a he's a good he's a good dude. And

1203
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: we were kind of we were kind of both new

1204
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: to the Atlanta scene, and and we were in we're

1205
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 2: in the park in Atlanta where it was the it

1206
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: was the the uh I guess, the gay area, and

1207
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: we were both getting hit on a lot. So it

1208
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 2: was great. Yeah, it was interesting to see how he

1209
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 2: was handling that, you know what I'm saying, because we

1210
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: were teaching each other back and forth. Because those dudes

1211
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: in Atlanta they're very aggressive. You know. They weren't just

1212
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: they were like they were, they were aggressive. So it

1213
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: was it was an interesting, uh, interesting situation.

1214
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: You're false Atlanta very well known for great breakfasts and

1215
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: thirsty women. No, probably the former gra that's great, chicken

1216
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: and waffles.

1217
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 2: It's got it's got great, it's got great. Well listen,

1218
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: it has some beautiful women.

1219
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: It has a thirsty men too, apparently according.

1220
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: To you, that's what I was. That's what I was

1221
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 2: gonna say. The thirst with the men is a lot

1222
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: higher than the thirst with the women.

1223
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: All right, shout out to the the the at l

1224
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: on that one. Al Rashad. We've known you as a

1225
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: high school football star and a collegiate wrestling phenom, if

1226
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: you will. I didn't know about your tennis turn We

1227
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: found this on the on the deep dark dive of

1228
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: the web. You look confused. What's going on? You look confused?

1229
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I got a chance to meet uh, the very

1230
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: famous UH Polish star and the polishtar, the tennis star

1231
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: as a Rinka and and we got to film this.

1232
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: This is actually for the UFC Show Countdown. I got

1233
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: a chance to work with her and actually go to

1234
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: her her her match at Sony Rickson tournament in UH

1235
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: in Miami. Yeah, it was pretty cool. Was the first

1236
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: time I ever been to a tournament UH in the

1237
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: tennis match like that, and it was pretty cool.

1238
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 3: Man.

1239
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: But she was pretty cool. Man. She showed me, you know, her,

1240
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: her her whole her whole game.

1241
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: Man.

1242
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 2: It was pretty excited. I actually thought I can play

1243
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: tennis afterwards. But then I went a few times later

1244
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: and I was like, man, I'm gonna tear my knees

1245
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: out if I do this anymore.

1246
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, try to play racquetball, then try to walk the

1247
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: next morning. Right, Certain stories just this just doesn't work.

1248
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: You've had a great rivalry in the past with one Forst. Griffin,

1249
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: fellow UFC champion and Hall of Famer. In fact, you

1250
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: took the damn belt from him. We found this weird

1251
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: one from the crowd at a at a UFC. What's

1252
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: going on here?

1253
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. Forest is always clowned around, man, I

1254
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: think what am I doing? I'm looking kind of serious here.

1255
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 2: It looks as if like Forrest is probably trying to

1256
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: clown me for coming in all dressed up and he's

1257
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: wearing a dang BSN shirt and looking I just chilled out.

1258
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: But me and Forrest have a great relationship. Man. Forrest

1259
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: is one of those guys who is just always happy,

1260
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: go lucky, you know, and his energy towards me never changed. Man,

1261
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: He's one of the great guys in the sport, and

1262
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: I enjoy every chance I get to.

1263
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, it's gotta be hard to trash talk

1264
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: and get, you know, seriously mad at a guy that

1265
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: fun and genuine.

1266
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: Really, Forrest is a great dude. He's a great human

1267
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 2: being man.

1268
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: All Right, a lot of just bleed guys in the background.

1269
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: But check out that ice cold Nate Diaz stare right there,

1270
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: a little two oh nine over Forred's shoulder. You see that.

1271
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely gotta have the ice coat, grild baby.

1272
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: All right, finally we got one more, speaking of Rashad

1273
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: juggling sports. Here a little little bowling action. You stuck

1274
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: your fingers in this ball and you look like you

1275
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: know what you're doing. What's going on here?

1276
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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I took a college class where I

1277
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Speaker 2: was a bowling I was like a bowling college class,

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Speaker 2: and h it was pretty fun. I did my thing

1279
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Speaker 2: in a class, but at the end of the day,

1280
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Speaker 2: I just wasn't a bowler, and that right there was

1281
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: was all for show.

1282
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Speaker 1: You know.

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01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 2: I'm actually a terrible bowler, but I was able to

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01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: pull it off for this image, you know. But I

1285
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 2: still remember how to step on the right boards and

1286
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Speaker 2: how to throw it, but just not as good as

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Speaker 2: a bowler as I should be.

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Speaker 1: I hope to continue this segment in the future of

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Speaker 1: Shot because I found some fantastic picks on the here.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure you had. Yeah.

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01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: Now, I'm not talking about thirsty ones. We're not trying to.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk about good ones, all right. More to come

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Speaker 1: on that in the future. So that was me presenting

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01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: submissions out there. We have a segment each week though

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01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: we're Shot, called Fans Submissions. They put us in the

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01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: in the sleeper hold and get the rare naked. They

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Speaker 1: send in their best artwork pictures of them in our

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Speaker 1: merch Let's start off here with JB. Jay On Sunday

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01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: was his fortieth birthday and he bought himself some Morning

1300
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: Combat merchandise. They shipped it for free to Europe. What

1301
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: how is it even possible? He says, love the show,

1302
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: You're doing a great job. Keep hammering. Much love from Munich, Germany. Rashad.

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01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: That doesn't actually look like authorized morning comeback gear. I

1304
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: think that guy got a bumper sticker put on a

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01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: T shirt right there.

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01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 2: I mean, he kind of looks like our producer Mikey

1307
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: more awhile, but that's another thing for husself. I don't

1308
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: even know how he even got Mikey's shirt on, but

1309
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: that does look like it's a little bit uh bot leg.

1310
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: By the way, you want to see you a great

1311
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: pick of Mikey Mormo. I'll watch brock lesnar versus Heath Herring.

1312
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: Right before they start that fight, they panned the crowd

1313
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: and you got a high school of Mikey and like

1314
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: the seventh row with those free ESPN tickets, just marking

1315
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: the hell out. Shout out to him right there, many

1316
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: thanks for this guy with the revelry revelue donks tip

1317
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: to tip, Thank you JBJ. Happy fortieth brother. Your hairline

1318
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: didn't make it, but you are looking fantastic. This one's

1319
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: from Damian B. He says, I just saw Adam Hunter live,

1320
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: the MMA roasted guy and comedian, and I had to

1321
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: make sure I rocked my m K sher and oh,

1322
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: by the way, we went tip to tip Rashod. You

1323
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: know this guy on the left, Adam Hunter, that m

1324
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: a roasted comedian.

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Speaker 2: I do. Adam Hunter is a funny dude. Man, He's

1326
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 2: a funny guy. I never go through his shelves because

1327
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 2: every single time he always throws me into the bus.

1328
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: But that's another story for his selva. Mean ah.

1329
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: I like this guy, Damien B though wearing our merch

1330
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: there representing keeping it on brand. All right, tip on

1331
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: tip action, I appreciate that. Let's go over to Ben s.

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Speaker 1: He says, enjoying a Chicago favorite Pipeworks Pastrami on rye

1333
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: ale in his morning combat class. Rashod, I don't know

1334
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: what is your alcohol of choice, but would you ever

1335
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: drink a beer called pastrami on rye No?

1336
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 2: That sounds absolutely gag Worth.

1337
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: It's very Midwest, very on brand. But we appreciate that

1338
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: tumbler there that you bought, that that Luke Thomas recently broke.

1339
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: So shout out to that Ben s in the house here.

1340
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: Let's go over to jose A. He's made a nice

1341
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: little meme called why is Luke Thomas so anti social?

1342
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: The people around me are donks and there's Luke Thomas rashot.

1343
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: Do you have it?

1344
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: I've never rashed this. Do you have a history with Luke?

1345
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: He'said to have interviewed you for years? Did you always

1346
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: like this man?

1347
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? I always liked Luke. We always had a great conversation.

1348
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: I always open up to Luke like he was like

1349
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 2: Barbara Walters or something. Wow. We always we love the guys.

1350
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: He's probably in a job interview to get off the

1351
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: show right now, but we love the guy. Either that

1352
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: or somebody just yeah, yeah. I mean, like when you're forty,

1353
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: you got to get that thing checked out or shot.

1354
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: All right, it's the worst, it's really the worst. I mean,

1355
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: I'd rather have five COVID tests than that. All right,

1356
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: all right, let's roll on here. We got a fan

1357
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: from Greece. It's totso, so I wonder if he knows

1358
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: web scream. He put out a fun little movie poster

1359
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: here on a playoff The Woman in Red, with Luke

1360
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: breaking out the red panties and me as Gene Wilder

1361
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: on the bottom saying, Oh snap, I need to make

1362
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 1: I need to make Rogan asap. All right, it's red

1363
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: panty night. We're rich, Rasha. Do you ever see the

1364
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: movie The Woman in Red?

1365
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I seen it.

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01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: I seen it. I seen it, all right, shout out

1367
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: to Taos here probably in his parts. That's probably a

1368
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: brand new movie. I know things happened twenty thirty years

1369
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: behind me. Eure up there. Let's go over to Todd

1370
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: m here. He's got two one for BC, some more

1371
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: MK branded food, Campbell's soup that fits.

1372
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 2: That fits. You are the Campbell soup kid, You are.

1373
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: Just the tips. This is called Dicken soup. All right.

1374
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: That's pretty gross. All right, thank you very much, Todd

1375
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: em Does he have another one here?

1376
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: Jeff?

1377
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: What do we got from Todd M here?

1378
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 2: Nothing?

1379
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Scott m Rizzo a very

1380
01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: very frequent contributor to these parts Little X Files. The

1381
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: truth is still out there. The mk fules my scullier, molder,

1382
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: your molder, right, yeah, I guess so, I guess so.

1383
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: Hey shout out to the handiwork of our people, and

1384
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: the meme guy is back. He's got an early look

1385
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: at our next doncumentary, rashot. I don't know if you

1386
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: saw our Morning Combat doncumentary. A little inside look at

1387
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: how the sausage is made in these parts. But I've

1388
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: been threatening Luke that if he keeps running his mouth,

1389
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: I get that thing up behind him. Bro. It's tapernap right,

1390
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, you know

1391
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: it's Tapernappna. You want to disrespect me, I'll take you

1392
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: to the cage. By the way, you see GSP with

1393
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: the hair these days?

1394
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: You done with that? I like the ball of GSP.

1395
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: I'm kind of on the fence with this one.

1396
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: It does make him look younger. I mean, I shaved

1397
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: my beard and put on this two thousand and one

1398
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: hoop a stink goatee. Uh, and well, I offendra shot.

1399
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: I think he's gone gap? Is he gone? All right?

1400
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: We're shots here. We're gonna work that out. We got

1401
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: one more gaff. Can we go to the finish line?

1402
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 2: Here?

1403
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: From Todd m. He's got the twelve days of Morning Combat.

1404
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: If we can, if we can, I don't know if

1405
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: we can. All right, it's the live show here. This

1406
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: show is brought to you by the Nice Price Records

1407
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: and Books, Raleigh, North Carolina's finest for a while now.

1408
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: Shout out to the vinyl and book selections of the

1409
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: Feis folks at Nice Price. Thank you very much. Morning

1410
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: Combat this week Axel brought to you by Knackos Caribbean

1411
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: Energy Drink. All right, we're back, Okay, here we go.

1412
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: Twelve days of Morning Combat. One is a forty ounce

1413
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: of Old English eight hundred. On the second day, it's

1414
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: two hard boiled eggs, three TRT injections, four Irish handtrucks,

1415
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: five shattered MK tumblers, six ball condoms, seven Paul brothers,

1416
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: eight picograms, nine Caucus mountain beards, ten Bruce Buffer tuxedos,

1417
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: eleven misspelled fighters names, and twelve proper twelve whiskies. That

1418
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: is genius right there with the putting Luke and myself

1419
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: on top of of course Clark W. Griswold and his

1420
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: and his wife's cousin there from Christmas vacation. Just watch

1421
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: that with the kids and the Wife the other night.

1422
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: Fantastic flick as well. A big thanks to Todd M.

1423
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: Scott Rizzo and the crew Tossos of Grease, all the

1424
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: contributors there to what we do here MK all the

1425
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: way every day, nearly every day, all day, something like that, that's.

1426
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: What we do.

1427
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna get Rashad back, but

1428
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: that's gonna wrap up the show. I believe know y'all

1429
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: want more. Marty's coming in here with BC's gas station

1430
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: hot dog stand now with extra MK. The sauce that

1431
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: it's okay to double tip with. Without it, you're just

1432
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: an unseasoned dead piece of me. I love these people.

1433
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: They get us, they get us. Thank you, Marty, thank

1434
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: you for that. In fact, I'd like to blow that up.

1435
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: Put that right on my well. Get a couple of

1436
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: webscreen movie posters here. Maybe check out this Showtime super

1437
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: six boxing classic frame Flow. You can't find this anywhere, okay,

1438
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: only on BC's wall, all right. I got a I

1439
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,839
Speaker 1: got the the Hebib Holloway poster. You can't find that anywhere,

1440
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: all right, thank you? Maybe in China. I think that's

1441
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: where I bought it from all right, that's the tour

1442
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: of BC's office. Oh we have another one from Marty

1443
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,440
Speaker 1: This this show is out of control right now morning Wombat.

1444
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: And here's the grave with co host sent to hell

1445
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: by a gas station. Hot dog Jay dance here, so

1446
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: did Luke. They would dance on my grave.

1447
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: This is.

1448
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: A masked animal with a cat next to it. And

1449
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,440
Speaker 1: oh wow, Dickles is back with a bang. Wow, Dickles.

1450
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: Check out that. There's a lot going on here. Okay,

1451
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: it's BC with the headphones. Gaff. What does this say

1452
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: on that T shirt? Can you read that? Gaff?

1453
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: You with me?

1454
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? It says who gets a bony for Jony this guy?

1455
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: And it's BC dreaming of Jody Mitchell. We got the

1456
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: Joanna poster in the background, just like I've got the

1457
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: Yo Wanna poster right here in the h in the

1458
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: office of BC. Rashad's phone did die? Not sure if

1459
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: we can get him back? Love his work? This week?

1460
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: We got any more of these? Uh? These mind bender

1461
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: show look at Dickles over the Tip, a play on

1462
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: the Great Arm Wrestling Stallone movie Over the Top producer

1463
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: Jay on the bottom playing the role of Stallone's son

1464
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: Me and the Stallone role. There's Luke as that big

1465
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: damn ox. Fantastic movie. This guy, Dickles, I don't know

1466
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: who's in the crowd there, gaff is there any this

1467
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: is like? This looks like the cover of Sergeant Pepper's

1468
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: Who the Hell's in the crowd? They're watching us? This

1469
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: is fantastic And we got one more from Dickoles from

1470
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: the Morey povid show. It says DNA test results for

1471
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: baby big beij Campbell are in and Luke you are

1472
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: the father. And this is not only hilarious, it's a

1473
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: difference to me posting a picture of my own father

1474
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: during last week's fan submission and the odd and airy

1475
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:11,759
Speaker 1: reality that my dad at age about sixty five looks

1476
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 1: like Luke Thomas in about fifteen years, which is very

1477
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: weird and I didn't realize that until I saw that picture. So,

1478
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, you are my father in twenty years. Thank

1479
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 1: you very much, Dickos. Fantastic work. My people, my listeners

1480
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: are listeners. It might be my show. I don't know

1481
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: if Luke's going back. Fantastic work right there. Please thank

1482
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 1: you to Sugar Rashad Evans Gath. If we can post

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Speaker 1: the love, spread the wealth, don't spread your legs.

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Speaker 1: We got to keep it safe during the season. Wear

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Speaker 1: the mask, take care of this, okay, take care of

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Speaker 1: take care of your mental health hair. Okay, it's important.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a wild winter. We're gonna get through

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Speaker 1: One day we'll be going tip to tip, nose to

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Speaker 1: nose again. It's gonna be fantastic. Shout out to mcdankey himself,

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Speaker 1: Sugar rashot Evans, a great co host filling in for

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas this week. We love you, Luke. Hope you're

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Speaker 1: back safely from your colonoscopy or wherever you are. And

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Speaker 1: to all our friends and fans and hopeful sare of

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat, thank you for making this show what it is.

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Speaker 1: out showtime dot com for Rashad Evans, for our staff

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Speaker 1: and crew, and for you. I am Brian Campbell, signing

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