WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Dr. Leandris Liburd & Tara Robinson Talk Signs Of Heart Attacks, Live To The Beat Campaign + More 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:05.360 Wait that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club Yep, 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:08.160 Charlamagne to God just hilarious. DJ Envy had to step 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:10.600 out for a second, but we got some special guests, doctor. 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:12.840 Leandrews La Bird and Tara Robinson. 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.960 Leandre is the director of CDC's Office of Health Equity 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.479 and Tara is the founder and CEO of the Black 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:22.119 Heart Association, And since February is Heart Health Month, we 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:23.360 had to have them up here today. 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:27.280 How are you good morning, how are you feeling here? 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:32.600 Glad to be able to talk about black women's heart 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:35.760 health to day with you. Absolutely share a little bit 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:39.280 of data. Data's not new, and we really are here 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:42.839 to talk more about what black women can do and 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.920 how our whole community can support Black women in having 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.320 healthier hearts and healthier lives. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.680 Well, what is the CDC Foundations Lived to the Beat 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.800 campaign For those that don't know, Yeah, so, the Live to. 0:00:55.760 --> 0:01:01.400 The Beat campaign is a web based campaign that really 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:06.160 targets African Americans with things that we can do in 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.120 order to protect our health and our heart health. It 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:15.440 has lots of resources, lots of videos, It's very culturally based, 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.200 very much the things that we can relate to in 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:23.560 our own communities, and so it's been around for three years. 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.440 We just invite all of your listeners and your viewers 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:33.759 to go to live too theb dot org forward slash 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.880 Heart to Heart. We're gonna talk today a lot about 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:43.120 the Heart to Heart Challenge. Yeah, So the Heart to 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:49.360 Heart Challenge focuses on particularly Black women. Even though heart 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.960 disease is the leading cause of death for all black people, 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.280 and heart disease is the leading cause of death for 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:02.160 all women. It kills more more women than all forms 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.960 of cancer combined. And so what we want to be 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:10.000 able to do is to encourage black women to get 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:14.640 involved with the campaign and the challenge, follow some simple 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:19.960 steps and really start to just be more empowered to 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:24.160 take care of themselves. Yeah, and to prioritize self care. 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:29.840 That's a big theme. So we say that self care 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.400 is healthcare. We want to really focus on that today. 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:35.960 Yeah, I love that. 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:37.480 Did you so? Which one? 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:38.080 I want to know? 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.600 One of 'alls survived three heart attacks? 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.240 Power was you? Girl? 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:49.040 That has to be well, it's amazing that you're still 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.000 here in front of me, But like, did you know 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:53.440 something was wrong before? 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:56.840 I didn't? 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.760 My symptoms started in twenty thirteen, my left arm winnum 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.320 and and you would think, based on those two symptoms 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.840 that I would say, oh, it's my heart, but no, 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.400 I'm always in touch with the healthcare system, you know, 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.000 going to the doctor when I'm supposed to. And so 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.120 me and my husband said, well, maybe I just sleep 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.919 on this side too much, you know, to start self diagnosing, 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.040 and so I did that, and then so I said, well, 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.200 I'll wait to January to go follow up with my 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.400 primary care and thinking I had time, not knowing then 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.880 that someone was dying every eighty seconds from a heart attack. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.880 And so I went to my doctor and I said, hey, 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.799 you know, these things are happening to me. My left 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.440 arms going on, my feet are darker, you know, I'm tired, 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:35.520 my neck and she. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:36.760 Said, well, maybe you're just stressed. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:37.920 Your doctor. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:40.800 My doctor said that yes, and so I said, well, 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:42.680 maybe I am. Because I'm a mother, i'm a wife, 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.040 I wear all these many hats as many women do. 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.640 And so I left there thinking I was just stressed. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:51.560 She made no connection to my heart being a possible issue. 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.920 So God kept me from January to April. April tenth, 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:56.760 I woke up at two o'clock in the morning, I 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.560 still had all those symptoms times ten and then went 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.400 to the er. By the time I rid that I 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.040 felt much better, was dismissed and told them to follow 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.320 my primary care. And then the next day in my classroom, 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.800 had another one. Then I'm going back and forth with 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:14.040 the cardiovascular a docter that I should stay because they 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:18.200 wasn't finding anything on their test. But then I was 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.280 released at eleven at four o'clock the next day going 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.840 back having a massive heart attack. So were they not 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:26.720 doing the right test? The word I believe that they 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.960 were doing the test that they know to do. That's 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.600 what I have to believe to be okay. But I 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:38.800 think as data shows that most women don't show like men, 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:43.240 present like men that with heart attacks. But for me, 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.960 I had the textbook symptoms. And so we know as 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.440 black women, we face other issues with healthcare as far 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.679 as bias and racism. So I faced those two things 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.000 is going through my ordeals. So we have to know 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.240 where we stand and we have to know what our 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.880 risk factors are. And that's why this campaign is so important. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.800 I've done a million different I've done every single heart 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.640 test that you can possibly do right, So even when 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.839 they did I don't know the technical term for, but 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:09.440 when they put the ink inside of you and they 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.279 can look inside your arteries. 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.120 Now I did discress tests, but this is. 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.520 When they put the like the dyeing and it makes 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.720 you warm, and then they can look inside your heart 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:19.280 vibs and see if there's any blockage and like you 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:19.800 whittle make it. 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:20.640 They didn't do that for you. 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.320 I went through the calf lab during my massive heart attack. 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.280 They didn't do that before because I guess maybe they 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.200 were coming back to back and I feel like they 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:30.960 didn't do enough. I'm sure there's other things they could 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:35.200 have done, but I didn't have that done until I 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:36.720 went through. Well, I didn't do that part. I went 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.680 through the calf lab and then that's when I went 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.960 into sudden depth. I ended up dying that day, losing 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.280 my life on to Heaven coming back here, and so 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.880 none of that happened because at that point it was 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.040 too late. This I'm in crisis at this moment, and 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.880 so they did the basic test, your EKG, your cat scan, 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.880 your heart enzyme test. That's what was done when I 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:01.040 went through er. Nothing more that you would see at 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:02.800 a cardiovascular doctors forgive me. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:03.440 I'm stupid. 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:05.880 I just realized I thought you had three separate heart attacks. 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:06.680 It was all at one time. 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.840 No, I had one April, tenth April, eleventh, April the 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:09.599 next day. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:14.039 Yeah yeah, and you said you died with the heaven. 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.240 Yeah, yeah, you saw heaven. I did. 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.000 Please elaborate if you don't, please. 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:21.680 I don't want to take the interview from little to 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:25.960 the be. But so what happened was I thank god 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.159 it was a sister in there that may help me 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:29.720 be very comfortable. 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:34.080 So it's important. No, in the emergency in the I'm 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:34.599 glad you would. 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:38.960 Oh my god. 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.360 So the nurse I remember her because you're up during 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.560 the entire procedure, and so she was like, he's gonna 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.800 tamper with your heart. You're gonna feel a little discomfort, 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.680 but it's gonna be okay. She was from New Orleans, 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:50.720 so she had that thick accent. But it made me 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:55.320 feel very comfortable. And when she said that, I was 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.520 just gone. And so how I knew where I was. 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.920 I could see myself and it was a perfect day 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.159 if you could think of the perfect day with the 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:06.080 perfect green gearass, perfect temperature, perfect, you know, and so 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:11.760 vibrant everything, and I could see myself like walking, and 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.680 I had this peace. And that's how I knew where 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.520 I was because my mind was white clear. I wasn't 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.640 worried about my children here and my husband. Nothing here 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.960 was a factor for me. And so I could hear 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.560 my name being called. It was called three times, and 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.560 it was the nurse. And then I knew where I 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.800 was because I was on my way. I could feel 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.239 that like a knowing. And then I was back here 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.840 after she called my name, and I didn't realize. She 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.760 was like, oh, you fell asleep on us for a second. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.320 And then when the doctor came in and said you 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:42.600 had ninety nine percent blockage known as the wheelmaker. He said, 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.480 but when you died on us, I stopped and prayed 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.040 for you. And so I was lucky enough to have 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:48.160 a doctor at that moment. 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:53.720 That Wow, doctor Delandris, what's the sign that something maybe wrong. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:54.760 With our hearts? 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:59.200 Well? Terror, you know, she certainly shared some of the 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:03.000 classic symptoms, but the other things we need to always 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.720 be aware of is our numbers. What is our blood 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:10.720 pressure level, what is our cholesterol level, what are our 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.000 blood sugars? I would even say, you know, what's our weight. 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.360 You know, we need to check in with our physician 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.880 regularly around these things. And I wanted to just mention 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.560 just a couple more reasons why black women tend to 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.960 have this higher burden of heart disease. Some of them 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:35.800 are systemic or structural things like you know, not having 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:42.839 access to health insurance, not having paid sickly, having lots 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.800 of financial stress because black women tend to be I'm 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:52.320 going to say overrepresented in like poverty. Yeah, and also 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:56.920 you know, not necessarily having access to quality healthcare because 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:00.840 of the biases that we sometimes encounter or in the 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.880 healthcare system. But the other thing that we really want 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:09.600 to sort of elevate today is the stereotype of the 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:14.360 strong black woman, and we want to dismantle that and 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:19.520 start to disrupt that and really rethink what it means 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:25.000 to be strong. So we have this long history of 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:29.560 putting others before of us, ahead of us, of taking 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:33.679 care of others. We can go our way back to 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:38.960 slavery and to the present, and so we want to 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:44.240 give black women permission today to put themselves first fortune 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.719 to really say I'm deserving of taking care of me. 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:55.120 So we know from research that black women report higher 0:09:55.200 --> 0:10:00.520 levels of psychological stress, and we know from data that 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:05.520 black women have higher rates of cardiovascular disease. Overall, a 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:09.000 Black woman is sixty percent more likely to have high 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:15.120 blood pressure, higher rates of coronary disease, but also higher 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:20.040 rates of stroke deaths than when we compare to non 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:25.839 Hispanic white women. So these things taken together are our concerns. 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:31.160 So we want to really encourage and press Black women, 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:37.720 their families and communities to really pay attention and take charge. 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:38.280 Right. 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:43.400 So, the Heart to Heart challenge is that we're asking 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.000 women to do three things. The first one is to 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:52.040 identify a small step that they can take That could 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.920 be taking a daily self care walk. It could be 0:10:56.040 --> 0:11:00.720 tracking what you're eating and your physical activity, your movement. 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:06.640 It could be taking deep breaths, right, we need to 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:11.320 do better and breathing and like exhaling some of this stress. 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:17.640 And also keeping a gratitude journal, which is really surprising 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:23.320 has an actual health benefit. So and then knowing your 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:30.760 numbers as I mentioned before, and then telling someone. So 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:35.120 the second part of the campaign is to go public 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:38.240 with the commitment that you've made to prioritize your own 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:42.120 self care. You know, tell friends, tell family members, put 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:46.199 it on your social media page. And then the third 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:50.280 thing is we want the women who will participate in 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:55.960 the campaign to celebrate that commitment by coming to Atlanta 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.280 if you can. If you're in Atlanta, please come to 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:03.000 the Heart to Heart self care party. It's going to 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:07.240 be on February the twenty fourth. If you can't come, 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:13.000 you can participate virtually. But there will be like yoga demonstrations, 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:18.120 cooking demonstrations, There'll be a comedian there because you know 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:19.880 that laughter it's good for the heart. 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:27.480 It's good for our minds, which comedy. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.160 Just like not all the community is good for your heart. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.160 Chant she's also a survivor. 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.640 Okay, oh that's nice, but that's a good link. 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:34.640 Okay, gotcha. 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.079 Yeah. And then the only other thing I don't want 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.640 to forget to mention in terms of a small step 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:45.600 is when you need to speak to a professional because 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.600 like your world just sort of is like unraveling. You 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.560 don't feel like you can keep it all together. We 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:58.440 want to encourage women to seek that help. There is 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:03.079 no stigma that should be attached to that. It's okay, 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.120 you know, we want we want to really encourage that, 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:10.320 particularly in the Black community. So those are that's like 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.880 the essence of the campaign. That's why we think this 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.960 is so important, you know, this year, Like I was saying, 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:23.480 we've known for decades that certainly that high blood pressures 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.680 is a big problem in the African American community. But 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.880 we also know now that there are things that we 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.880 can do. Yeah, we don't have to just sit with it. 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.760 I've heard that taking fish oil capsules lower as the 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:36.880 curlesterol is that you. 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:42.120 You know what, I'm not really up to nate on 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.440 like those kinds of supplements. And I would really encourage 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:46.960 you to ask your position. 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:49.880 I would say it is good for your heart. My 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:54.360 my position prescribed them to me. So but of course 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:55.720 you know you want to follow with your doctor. 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.040 But yeah, hear that a lot. 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.520 Yeah, fish oil and a baby asterrod. 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:03.920 And then I got you got stating that night because 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:05.760 you know, yeah, I'm born in nineteen hundred and. 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.120 Seven years I do want to answer your question. 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.160 You asked, what are the signs and what are some 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.400 of the signs and symptoms. So I would say for women, 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.280 it's totally different from men. You know, I was lucky 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.760 enough to have the textbook symptoms, which only twenty percent 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.320 of women show up at the er with the textbook symptoms, 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.440 So imagine what happens to the rest of us who 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.480 don't have those, and see what I got with them. 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.800 With men, you usually have the textbook symptoms, but with 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.960 women it can be a belly ache. You hear women 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.560 complain of both either arm being numb, you can hear fatigue, 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.680 you can hear no symptoms at all. And the danger 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:41.000 with heart disease is that it doesn't have a look, 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.160 you know, and no shot to. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.240 My counselor survivors, sisters. 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.280 But heart disease is dangerous because it looks okay, it 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.320 looks like me and you dressed up and makeup. It 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.680 looks like us in clothes, and that we have to, 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.160 you know, change that narrative so in order to save 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.440 our lives. And that's why these campaigns are lived to 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.520 the beats important because when we talk about small steps, 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:04.880 small steps is looking at your plate and saying what 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:08.200 can I do to better manage my health? 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:09.720 Because yeah, I want to. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.720 Ask you another question there about because you have the 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.200 black heart association. I mean, you know, of course black 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.120 people and white people we got the same organs. But 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.360 is there more stressors that happen. 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:19.960 Of course, this is a stupid question. 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.760 What are the stressors that black people have to deal 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.640 with more that probably make us more prone to heart disease? 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.080 Well, you know, we have a lot going on. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:33.320 I think about this most recent Let's just think about 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.800 George Floyd and us as black women, and we all 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.080 heard him call for his mother. You know, those kind 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.320 of things stay with us as people. So we have 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:46.040 racism that we have to go through, we have biases 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:47.560 that we have to go through. We don't have enough 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:51.040 black doctors, we don't have enough resources in our community. 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.360 We're at Black Heart, We're in the community every single day. 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.640 My husband's at two events today and we have won 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.800 twenty eight events this month. So we're seeing that. You know, 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:04.080 we go to areas that don't have access to food. Why, 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:05.840 you know, why are we still here as a nation 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.720 when we have we can send billions of dollars everywhere else, 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.200 but why come we can't take care of our own 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.960 communities right here in America. So it's a lot of 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.920 things that you know, access to proper education, a lot 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.360 of things are missing, and we have to come together 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.360 to figure that out. No, yes, we do have the 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.320 same heartbeat? But do we have the same heartbeat when 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:24.160 it comes to America? 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.080 Yeah, what kind of life style changes should we be making? 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:33.760 So things like changing our diet certainly to have less salt. 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:40.800 We need to be more physically active. Stop smoking if 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:42.440 that's something that you're doing. 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:46.040 Now, stop smoking? What it's some things? I know it's 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:46.920 some things not for me. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.200 No, we're talking about stop smoking cigarettes. 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.560 Okay, all right, yeah, yeah, I agree. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.000 What about marijuana? Se marijuana good lower stress levels? 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:01.280 H Well, you know it's the cd see representative here. 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.560 I'm gonna ask you that speak to your physician about that. 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:05.120 Oh. 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:07.959 I think it has its pros and cons. 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.679 I think in the community we definitely tell you know, 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.840 we can't tell people what they should or we can 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.840 say we suggest based on what you're you know, what 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.680 you're going through. But I think it definitely has its 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.800 pros and cons. Once we get addicted to something, then 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.639 it becomes a con. So we just have to be 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.040 mindful of that balance. I think it's checks and balances 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.359 and everything we do, whether it's from eating, stress, relate 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.280 bad relationships, whatever it is we're doing, it's always checks 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.480 and balances and having to consider our health in every 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:36.760 decision we make throughout the day. 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.600 Yeah, and we really need to, I think, look at 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:45.719 the root causes. So often we're self medicating, we're covering up, 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.840 we're just not dealing with right, the real thing. 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:49.840 Yeah. 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.520 And so you know, we hope that through this campaign 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:57.439 in particular, that women and black women will start to 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:01.280 have some real conversations and then our whole community would 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:05.920 start to rally because we're gonna have to save ourselves 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:10.480 in terms of really being able to live a long 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:11.560 and healthy life. 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:12.240 Yeah. 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.000 Absolutely, I know I was this kind of caterus to 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:16.600 me as well. I don't know if there's a direct 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:21.080 link to it, but I was born with a heart murmur, 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.480 a leaky valve, and I got heart surgery at birth, 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.080 but I was too small for them to go through 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.520 my heart, so they went through my bag. And it 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.320 hasn't bothered me over the years. It used to bother 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:33.960 me when I was a child, when I was really 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:37.280 really young, but since like my vision will go black 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.760 sometimes like it would come right back, you know what 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:43.240 I mean. But I couldn't like really do too much 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.520 in gym when I was in like elementary and school, 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.159 elementary school and things like that, But it hasn't bothered 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.080 me since then. But every now and then it'll be 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.520 like like alone. You know, I always describe it like this. 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:56.159 I don't know if you ever heard this, but like 0:18:56.440 --> 0:19:00.760 chords get hangled up in your in your it just 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.000 feels like that sometimes when I'm laying down and I 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.640 have to see, you know, change positions and to your 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:10.040 point of like sometimes like what you did when you 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.560 had your textbook symptoms, you just was like, maybe I'm tired. Maybe, 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:18.400 like I will say, I have been afraid to go 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:22.880 see heart disease doesn't run in my family, but I'm 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.399 the only one that was born with a heart murmur 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.320 or you know, a leaky valve and I had the surgery, 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:29.840 and like I said, it hasn't really like affected me 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.800 greatly since I had the surgery, but it would it 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:34.879 bother me as a child a little bit, but I 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:39.119 haven't had anything like alarming stuff of those little pains 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:40.000 every now and then. 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:41.920 What I would say to you, but if it's enough 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.359 to get your attention, then you definitely should get it 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.240 checked out. And I think it's interesting that you bring 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:48.800 up the point because we hear this in the community 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:50.879 all the time that heart disease doesn't run in our family. 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:52.639 But if we have high blood pressure, if we have 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.919 cholesterol issues, then we have heart disease. And so we 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.440 have to start connecting the dots to make it makes sense. 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.919 If we're I had my heart attacks of stress. I 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.240 don't have high blood pressure, cholesterol. I still to this 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:06.320 day don't have any of those things. But I was internalizing, 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.840 going back to that strong black woman trope that we're 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.400 talking about. So I think a lot of us, as 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:13.160 black people, whether you're a black man or a woman, 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:15.800 you internalize a lot because of pride or for whatever 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:17.440 reason you don't want to get it out. But I'm 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:21.200 telling you now, if you've had high blood pressure, diabetes, 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:23.320 or any of those things for several years, you should 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.040 have already checked in with a heart specialist. 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:26.840 So you usually just stress. 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:28.560 You didn't have no plaque or nothing. 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:30.240 What right? 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:31.600 Wow? 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.920 But I did have flockage, but it was caused by 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.320 my stress or my stress levels because I dealt with 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.360 childhood trauma, you know, and a lot of us do. 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.960 I was molested as a child, I was abused, so 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:44.560 you got all of those situations. 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:45.679 I end up becoming a counselor. 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:47.879 But you're strapping, you know, trying to get out the hood, 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.560 trying to do all these things, and when you get 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:55.879 there and you're not healed, it's just the ticking time bump. 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.639 And I set myself up for failure in that sense. 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:03.240 Them didn't have healed things that went without fixing. Yeah, 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.600