Speaker 1: Jones comes up to the line of scrimage. I'll settles
Speaker 1: back in the shotgun. Crowd on its feet, tals swirling,
Speaker 1: an act for sure. Snap back to Jones looking and
Speaker 1: has the balls out of the way and covered by TJ. Watt.
Speaker 1: Stripsack recovery Steelers ball. Tremendous turn of events late in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, an act for sure.
Speaker 2: Stadium unbelievable. When you need a most, he delivers the most.
Speaker 2: That's right, TJ.
Speaker 3: Watt with a crucial strip sack late in the fourth
Speaker 3: quarter to key a Steeler's victory at home on Monday
Speaker 3: Night Football twenty six to eighteen.
Speaker 2: Stop me if you've heard this one before.
Speaker 3: Yes, every Steelers game in primetime feels the same. Hell,
Speaker 3: every Steelers game for the last seven eight years feels
Speaker 3: the same. With TJ. Watt getting it done at the end.
Speaker 3: That was Rob King and Craig Wolfley on w DV.
Speaker 3: I'm Greg Rosenthal with Nick Sook on NFL Daily on
Speaker 3: this Monday night, and I love the Steelers in these spots.
Speaker 3: And I know you're from Cleveland, and maybe you don't
Speaker 3: agree with me, but I love that they're reliable. They
Speaker 3: give us some entertainment. And yet they give us like
Speaker 3: a familiar ending that just like gets you ready to
Speaker 3: go to bed.
Speaker 4: And yet the Giants did not decide to dedicate a
Speaker 4: running back to Chip TJ Watt on a crucial third down.
Speaker 4: And it's gonna if I guess said, I've said this
Speaker 4: many times and I'll say it again. If I had hair,
Speaker 4: I'd be pulling it out right now. I'd be losing
Speaker 4: it because I was raging about the fact that they
Speaker 4: left Jermaine Illuminor on the island against TG Watt in
Speaker 4: that situation. But that's what happens when you play the
Speaker 4: Steelers at home primetime. Twenty two straight wins on Monday
Speaker 4: night football on primetime, that's an unfathomable stat I didn't
Speaker 4: realize that existed until tonight. And they come up with
Speaker 4: another win and they provide a ton of entertainment. I
Speaker 4: think it was a third straight week in which they
Speaker 4: were in primetime and they've delivered.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love Troy Aikman on this call in general, and
Speaker 3: if not for him, I wouldn't feel as confident in
Speaker 3: thinking that maybe the running back missed the assignment on
Speaker 3: that play. There was a couple couple ones late where
Speaker 3: it was like, should he have released out or no,
Speaker 3: you're saying no, he did not.
Speaker 4: Have He released right through the middle of the line.
Speaker 4: He was not even considering that side. I would never
Speaker 4: even let him no check and release there, dedicate him
Speaker 4: because if it's a base rush, not to get in
Speaker 4: the weeds.
Speaker 5: But if it's a base rush, Wat's coming.
Speaker 4: Wat's not dropping back into coverage there when they need
Speaker 4: to get pressure, He's going to be there, be there
Speaker 4: to protect against to get a chip, get some help
Speaker 4: for that guy.
Speaker 2: Get in the weeds, please, Shook.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you feel like you haven't been getting
Speaker 3: in the weeds, I want to get in the weeds
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 3: That was to me, you know, one of the key
Speaker 3: mispatches of the night. Drai Jermaine Illuminor, who decided, you know,
Speaker 3: preferred not to move from right tackle to the left
Speaker 3: tackle when they lost Andrew Thomas for the season.
Speaker 2: Made sense. He'd been having a really good year.
Speaker 3: I think the Giants offensive line overall has been better
Speaker 3: than average, the best they've been in a long time.
Speaker 3: And Illuminor's had a nice season. But whenever he gets
Speaker 3: you know, matched up one on one against why it's
Speaker 3: not gonna go well. Meanwhile on the other side, it's
Speaker 3: Chris Hubbard getting abused even more by Alex Highsmith repeatedly,
Speaker 3: and on a night where Russell Wilson played really well
Speaker 3: overall and the Steelers get four hundred and twenty six
Speaker 3: yards of offense. Feel like it's been a long time
Speaker 3: since we heard that. I do think it still came
Speaker 3: back to in the end, the Steelers' power move, like
Speaker 3: the Steelers special sauce, is the edge rush with Hayward
Speaker 3: obviously in the middle, and in the end they had
Speaker 3: to get some stops because of a Russell Wilson fumble
Speaker 3: because they decide not to go for it on a
Speaker 3: fourth down late in the fourth quarter. We can get
Speaker 3: to that decision if you want, but the the edge
Speaker 3: rushes get it done in the end, and that wasn't
Speaker 3: even the last time that they had to stop the Giants.
Speaker 3: The Giants actually got the ball back, got it over
Speaker 3: midfield with no timeouts, with under a minute to go,
Speaker 3: and it ended on a Daniel Jones interception where he
Speaker 3: sort of felt pressure that wasn't really there. And Beanie Bishops,
Speaker 3: who's had a surprisingly big part of this season. The
Speaker 3: safety for the Steelers gets the interception to finish off
Speaker 3: the game, but it just didn't fit as good narrative wise,
Speaker 3: Nick Shook, so I decided to go with TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt for the highlight. It's just better highlight.
Speaker 5: Now that's the clinching play.
Speaker 4: And the downside too, it is that it feels like
Speaker 4: a broken record because he does it so often. That's
Speaker 4: how great he is, which also speaks to why I'm
Speaker 4: so infuriated that they didn't provide help there. But I'm
Speaker 4: not going to repeat that. I'm okay with that decision,
Speaker 4: by the way, to pun on fourth and three. You
Speaker 4: know why, because you're facing Daniel Jones. You're facing an
Speaker 4: offense that struggled to put up points all night. It
Speaker 4: wasn't until Tyrone Tracy got loose and scored a touchdown
Speaker 4: that they actually found the end zone. They wasted their
Speaker 4: best previous opportunity, which came way back on their first possession.
Speaker 4: And if I'm Mike Toman and I have that defense
Speaker 4: and I got high Smith torching Chris Hubbard. Nice guy,
Speaker 4: by the way, he used to play for the Browns
Speaker 4: and I worked there. A very nice guy. But unfortunate
Speaker 4: situation for him, and they're torching Jermaine and Illuminar and
Speaker 4: they're getting a ton of pressure that You've got a
Speaker 4: PRESSU rate over fifty percent tonight. Yeah, I'm gonna put
Speaker 4: it on my defense go win this game because we're
Speaker 4: facing Daniel Jones. And it's so funny that, like I
Speaker 4: even slacked Kevin Patra to night and I was like, hey,
Speaker 4: I feel the crushing Daniel Jones interception coming. The next
Speaker 4: play he throws the pick, Like this is the guy
Speaker 4: that we know. He's not good at ball security. He
Speaker 4: fumbled the last possession away and gave the Steelers the
Speaker 4: ball back before the Giants are able to get it
Speaker 4: back on that force fumble and Russell Wilson like this
Speaker 4: is who they are. So I would totally trust the
Speaker 4: defense in that scenario, and it paid out in the
Speaker 4: right way for the Steelers.
Speaker 3: That's a great call. First of all, did you have
Speaker 3: ad Ian Rackson's you know with Chris Hubbard. Do you
Speaker 3: ever see him like in the cafeteria, Like.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we talked all the time. He was very nice.
Speaker 3: Really wow, I really have not dug in enough to
Speaker 3: your brown seas it is now like a statue of
Speaker 3: statute of limitations. So anything that was off the record
Speaker 3: or doesn't feel appropriate to share pubably is fine.
Speaker 2: So just yeah, just keep that.
Speaker 4: Jarvis Landry played that entire season with an injured hip.
Speaker 4: Told me that the Pro Bowl that was my Me
Speaker 4: and I have are really tight. Me and Nick Chubb
Speaker 4: are really tight. You know, Dell were pretty tight. We
Speaker 4: had a lot of friends.
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, I need to get more into that. I mean,
Speaker 3: you're telling me that Jarvis Landry was playing hurt. Is
Speaker 3: not exactly like breaking news. I mean, yeah, when was
Speaker 3: he not her? It's true underrated player Jarvis Landry, who
Speaker 3: was very tough, Like I think he was hurt all
Speaker 3: the time because he played so tough. I disagree with
Speaker 3: them going not going for it on fourth and three.
Speaker 3: Just to back it up for a second, and we
Speaker 3: will talk Russell Wilson because he was a huge takeaway
Speaker 3: in this game. You get to the two minute warning,
Speaker 3: it's fourth and three, they're at the forty two the
Speaker 3: forty three yard line. They win the game with two
Speaker 3: or three yards. Instead, they decide to punt and let
Speaker 3: their defense take care of it. The only reason why
Speaker 3: I would disagree is because at that point in the game,
Speaker 3: their defense had been on the field a lot, and
Speaker 3: the Giants were moving the ball finally a lot in
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. You mentioned the touchdown drive that they had.
Speaker 3: They also had a field goal drive. Granted it came
Speaker 3: off a short field, but it still was a forty
Speaker 3: yard drive before that. So they were moving the ball
Speaker 3: and they never take TJ. Watte off the field. This
Speaker 3: has been on my radar a little bit. He played
Speaker 3: ninety five percent of the steps. I think the only
Speaker 3: steps he sat out were the last couple months because
Speaker 3: he's so gassed. Unless I'm missing something, it's like okay. So,
Speaker 3: And to be fair, they gave up the yardage that
Speaker 3: they got in the punt in about you know, thirty
Speaker 3: forty seconds, so it wasn't like their defense.
Speaker 5: Was playing like the game.
Speaker 4: Situation eliminated the thread of the run because they had
Speaker 4: to throw the ball and you're facing Daniel Jones and
Speaker 4: I would take those odds.
Speaker 3: If I'm the Steelers, I would too. I would take
Speaker 3: the odds either way. My point is, I would take
Speaker 3: the odds on the fourth and two. That's like fifty
Speaker 3: to fifty maybe better. The way their offense would take
Speaker 3: it with Justin Fields right, it would have helped. And
Speaker 3: it got me thinking Justin Fields on the bench, him
Speaker 3: and Russell Wilson getting along. I think it's really cool
Speaker 3: how maturely and well they've handled it. It's not an act.
Speaker 3: He's in active for this game. Justin Fields, they're going
Speaker 3: into the bay as a hamstring injury. It doesn't seem
Speaker 3: like it was serious. If it was like the playoffs,
Speaker 3: I think you would have been active as their backup.
Speaker 3: But I want to make sure. But at some point
Speaker 3: in this season, if the red zone struggles continue, and
Speaker 3: the Steelers really struggled in the red zone tonight, I
Speaker 3: think they went zero for four if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 3: didn't the one touchdown was long. So you got one
Speaker 3: of the better red zone quarterbacks in the league, and
Speaker 3: Justin Fields. You got Russell Wilson moving the ball and
Speaker 3: really orchestrating this offense more efficiently than Fields did. I
Speaker 3: give Mike Tomlin a lot of credit. You know, we
Speaker 3: should use some Justin Field in the red zone. I
Speaker 3: think when we get into this season, I'm not saying
Speaker 3: like the second you pass the twenty, you just take
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson out of the game, but you should be
Speaker 3: in the mix.
Speaker 4: So I have these thoughts a lot when I'm watching
Speaker 4: football because I think about what would I do if
Speaker 4: I was the head coach. Sometimes it translates to what
Speaker 4: I'm playing, you know, in the college football league or
Speaker 4: a madd in league.
Speaker 5: Right, what would I do in this scenario?
Speaker 4: And there's two sides to the coin of the replacing
Speaker 4: a quarterback with another guy who's more adept at running,
Speaker 4: which is you're kind of telegraphing what you might want
Speaker 4: to do, not giving away entirely what you're going to do,
Speaker 4: but you're at least making the defense think, all right,
Speaker 4: this guy's running threat.
Speaker 5: At least have to be aware of that.
Speaker 4: You take away the element of surprise that you would
Speaker 4: get if he had the whole drive to get down there,
Speaker 4: which is where Field's really capitalized earlier.
Speaker 5: In the season.
Speaker 4: They'd be in the goal line, run a little read option,
Speaker 4: he'd skip in the end zone for a touchdown. So
Speaker 4: I think that there's a little bit of give and
Speaker 4: take between the two. But I like the idea because
Speaker 4: it's at least a variable that you can introduce that
Speaker 4: you don't have otherwise. Because look, we saw in the
Speaker 4: third down scramble that set up that fourth and three punt.
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson's running in quicksand he's not the same MOBI
Speaker 4: that he used to be, and we've known that for
Speaker 4: a while. He's playing really well and he's elevated this offense.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 4: He's spreading the ball around to Calvin Austin and Van
Speaker 4: Jefferson and George Pickens and him have a great connection.
Speaker 4: But he's not the mobile guy that's going to take
Speaker 4: off and to run anymore like he used to. So
Speaker 4: having fields available would be a nice little element. We're
Speaker 4: obviously thinking down the road with this team, but again,
Speaker 4: they've won so many games that I think we've been
Speaker 4: empowered to think down the road for them because they're
Speaker 4: not going anywhere, but they're going to be right here
Speaker 4: in the race for a long time.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: They're in first place.
Speaker 3: Let's not forget six and two heading into their buy
Speaker 3: and they've had the easier part of their schedule early.
Speaker 3: They have their entire ai AFC North schedule after the bye,
Speaker 3: so that's six of their games plus Washington is their
Speaker 3: first game. I think it's in Washington after the bye,
Speaker 3: So I love that the Steelers are main characters in
Speaker 3: this season. This is the best Steelers team, and this
Speaker 3: is in the highest bar ever. But since the pandemic
Speaker 3: year where they went undefeated for a while.
Speaker 5: And they were the worst undefeated team they've ever seen.
Speaker 3: They were and they were taking on water by the
Speaker 3: end of the year, but they were still a good team.
Speaker 3: Like they weren't a twelve and four team, but for
Speaker 3: most of that season, they were one of the seven
Speaker 3: or eight best teams in the NFL, like at worst.
Speaker 3: Whereas the last seasons where they keep having winning records
Speaker 3: making the playoffs, it's like they're literally getting outscored by
Speaker 3: twenty to sixty points every year and it's just this
Speaker 3: ridiculous Tomlin Sorcery. This year, their point differential is great,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's been good opponents that they place.
Speaker 3: I think they're a legitimately good team, a good defense
Speaker 3: that doesn't out allow a lot of points. The offense
Speaker 3: is certainly coming together. Naja Harris and Jalen Warren good tonight.
Speaker 3: And yeah, that's why I wouldn't have minded them going
Speaker 3: for it. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: That Russell Wilson was looking like he was going in
Speaker 2: quick staying on that plate.
Speaker 3: There was also a first and twenty that they called
Speaker 3: a run and I was like, oh, good call, cause
Speaker 3: if it was Justin Fields is like he could have
Speaker 3: popped that thing and he was moving so slow. And
Speaker 3: I think they're learning, Okay, what can we call? What
Speaker 3: can we not? And here's a deep poll for Steelers
Speaker 3: fans out there. You know they do that training camp
Speaker 3: drill every day and I only know about it because
Speaker 3: they write about it on the Athletic every day. Seven shots,
Speaker 3: seven shots where it's its end zone, it's red zone,
Speaker 3: you know, basically goal line defense seven times every single practice.
Speaker 2: Who wins offense or defense? And I remember in camp.
Speaker 3: It's like Justin Fields was way better at it than
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson because he's not Taysom Hill. Out there's a
Speaker 3: he can throw the ball pretty well, not that Taysom
Speaker 3: Hill camp, but I mean rus Justin Fields better at it.
Speaker 3: So this is a very small point to be making
Speaker 3: about this, saying I'd rather hear what you think just
Speaker 3: about the positives and what you saw out of Russell
Speaker 3: Wilson on an eye where they moved the ball over
Speaker 3: two hundred yards in the first half but settled for
Speaker 3: three field goals, and then he started just going bombs
Speaker 3: away a bunch of nice deep shots in the second half,
Speaker 3: and they were really moving the ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they also had a touchdown pass that was
Speaker 4: wiped out by a face mass penalty on the right tackle.
Speaker 4: Like they very much put together a hell of an
Speaker 4: opening drive, so much that Joe Buck was like, great drive. Oh,
Speaker 4: and there's a flag on the play, and then it
Speaker 4: backed him up and they had to settle for three.
Speaker 4: This offense is just more dangerous with Russell Wilson, and
Speaker 4: it's really a feather in the cap of Mike Tomlin, who,
Speaker 4: like you said, you know, has pulled off all types
Speaker 4: of magic acts in the last few years to get
Speaker 4: the Steelers in the playoffs at least fished with a
Speaker 4: winning record. Well, this time he doesn't have to because
Speaker 4: he made the right decision to go to Russell Wilson,
Speaker 4: because he had an inkling that, look, we put this
Speaker 4: guy in, it's going to open up our passing game
Speaker 4: because Russell is a better passer, he's more experienced. It's
Speaker 4: really showing in his connection with George Pickens. Now Piggins
Speaker 4: tonight doesn't finish with you know, the same stat line
Speaker 4: that he did a week ago. He finishes with seventy
Speaker 4: four yards on four catches. Last week he went over
Speaker 4: for one hundred and ten or one hundred and eleven,
Speaker 4: I think. But the threat is there, the deep ball
Speaker 4: is there, and it opens everything up for everybody else where.
Speaker 4: You get Calvin Ellison involved, he catches a touchdown pass.
Speaker 4: He also took a punt back which kind of burst
Speaker 4: the dam and allowed the offense to start doing something
Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball. You get Van Jefferson involved,
Speaker 4: and we know how inconsistent Van Jefferson can be when
Speaker 4: you're getting those guys involved. And it's not a big
Speaker 4: night for Pat Farreyermouth, and you still go over four
Speaker 4: hundred yards, which, by the way, to Russell Wilson starts
Speaker 4: two four hundred plus yard games they had one in
Speaker 4: six justin field starts. That proves the point that Tomlin
Speaker 4: was searching for when he made this change. So it's
Speaker 4: been a great move for them so far. The running
Speaker 4: game has been really helpful. Naja Harris goes over one
Speaker 4: hundred again. He had a great night against the Jets
Speaker 4: a week ago. Now he has another great night tonight.
Speaker 4: He's running hard, he's running with motivation in a contract year.
Speaker 4: He's running like he did at Alabama for the first
Speaker 4: time in a few years. And Jalen Warren is a
Speaker 4: nice spellback for them now. It's a nice little one
Speaker 4: two punch. So over all, that offense is a sending
Speaker 4: and we know what you get from your defense. And
Speaker 4: let's not forget Greg. The special teams is great. Like
Speaker 4: they've locked a ton of field goals this year. They
Speaker 4: get a punt return touchdown tonight. He loves to show
Speaker 4: their special teams coach in the sideline with the biggest
Speaker 4: wadda gum you're ever gonna see. He's gonna he fired up. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Danny Smith, he's fired up, and they love him. You
Speaker 4: can see them all surrounding him and celebrating him when
Speaker 4: they make a big play. It's a well rounded team
Speaker 4: and they deserve first place in the AFC North right now.
Speaker 4: They've played the most complete football, maybe not the prettiest football,
Speaker 4: but the most complete football of any team in this
Speaker 4: division right now, and they've earned their spot.
Speaker 3: All right, Let's listen to that punt return touchdown. My god,
Speaker 3: does Calvin Austin have some juice?
Speaker 1: Calvin Austin inside his own forty yard line, is retreated
Speaker 1: back to the thirty nine to wait for this Matt
Speaker 1: Hawk punt. Flag flies, his Hawk boots a low line drive.
Speaker 1: Austin retreating back to his twenty six will take it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna start to the left, trying to get to
Speaker 1: the outside there and he's gonna get there, and he's
Speaker 1: gonna cross the forty. He's gonna cross midfield. He's gonna
Speaker 1: cross the forty. Of the times here he goes preset,
Speaker 1: get on the left sideline. Calvin Austin is in for
Speaker 1: the score? What are run by Calvin Austin a seventy
Speaker 1: four yard return as Calvin Austin, He's electrified this crowd
Speaker 1: at Acrashuer.
Speaker 2: Stadium, Oh Kinger, I gotta tell you.
Speaker 1: As soon as he turned the corner and went wang
Speaker 1: dang doodle down that sidelines, you knew nobody was gonna
Speaker 1: catch him.
Speaker 2: Wangang doodle. I love it.
Speaker 3: I mean, if any player in the NFL wang dang doodles,
Speaker 3: it's Calvin Austin maybe two two at well here and there,
Speaker 3: but that dude scoots and yeah, you mentioned it. He
Speaker 3: also had a twenty nine yard touchdown catch on a
Speaker 3: nice throw from Russell Wilson that was really important late
Speaker 3: in the game, Like we started going back and forth
Speaker 3: here for a second. That got the lead to twenty
Speaker 3: two to nine. You're twenty three to nine and you
Speaker 3: thought it was basically over there. Then the Giants finally
Speaker 3: got their touchdown. Steelers respawn with a field goal, and
Speaker 3: in that Russell Wilson fumble happens and everything. Look, Russell
Speaker 3: Wilson had a forty three yarder of Pickens, a thirty
Speaker 3: six yard to Van Jefferson, who I'd given up for dead.
Speaker 3: I apologize. I thought that was like the worst free
Speaker 3: agency signing. I thought this receiver group was the worst
Speaker 3: in the NFL. After George Pickens, they're getting good play
Speaker 3: out of him. They mentioned how well Van Jefferson's blocking,
Speaker 3: how game he is.
Speaker 2: For that.
Speaker 3: You learned that in Los Angeles, and they're getting some
Speaker 3: production out of him. Austin has some juice, and then
Speaker 3: they get twenty nine yard to Darnell Washington. Now, I
Speaker 3: don't know if this is enough to go win the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl or get to it, but it's better than
Speaker 3: I would have expected. And one of my biggest takeaways
Speaker 3: from this game is how much Mike Tomlin is enjoying
Speaker 3: being right about Russell Wilson after that touchdown that they
Speaker 3: catch Mike Tomlin with this huge smile on his face
Speaker 3: and pointing.
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell.
Speaker 3: I think he's pointing at Russell Wilson that like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I told you that call was gonna work or whatever,
Speaker 3: and he is loving it. I'm thinking about that press
Speaker 3: conference where they were Brandon Marshall is the one that
Speaker 3: asked him, like, was this one of the boldest decisions
Speaker 3: you ever made?
Speaker 2: He said, that's why I'm well compensated and got to
Speaker 2: give it to him, man, like it's working.
Speaker 3: It's working, all hail, Mike tom I don't know if
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson's gonna be like a top ten quarterback in
Speaker 3: the QB INEX by the end of the year. I'm
Speaker 3: not ready to fully buy in, and I'll tell you
Speaker 3: a few reasons why. But he is an upgrade right
Speaker 3: now from justin fields. It's definitely worked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the sample size is small at this point,
Speaker 4: so don't expect him to climb just yet.
Speaker 5: We need a little bit more proof.
Speaker 4: I'm QB Index, yes, QB Index Central, but so far,
Speaker 4: so good, and it's it's really I think given the
Speaker 4: Steelers more optimism, not that they didn't have it, but
Speaker 4: they knew that they had to win ugly early in
Speaker 4: the season. They had to win on the back of
Speaker 4: their defense and by playing ball control when they had
Speaker 4: the ball, limiting turnovers, and Fields did a good job
Speaker 4: of that. In fact, I think he did better than
Speaker 4: most people expected him to, so much that we were
Speaker 4: all like, why are you making this change?
Speaker 3: But it was that Raiders game, which I don't think
Speaker 3: anyone watched, and I didn't either when I hadn't either
Speaker 3: when I first reacted to the Fields thing, and then
Speaker 3: I eventually watched it later this week, and they won
Speaker 3: that game by like nineteen points or whatever. But it
Speaker 3: was Field's worst game by far. It was that game
Speaker 3: that got them benched.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and yet they still ran away with a win
Speaker 4: because that's how good of a team they are. So
Speaker 4: it was the right time to make that decision, and
Speaker 4: he also needed to find out whether it was a
Speaker 4: decision that should be made. And so far, you know,
Speaker 4: you got to give him again a tip of the
Speaker 4: cap for having the guts to do it. And you
Speaker 4: only get that leeway when you're Mike Tomlin, when you've
Speaker 4: been a head coach of the team for so long
Speaker 4: and had success and turned average teams into playoff teams
Speaker 4: year after year and could keep avoiding a losing record.
Speaker 4: That's when you get that leash and the ability to
Speaker 4: make that decision, and then you look really smart when
Speaker 4: it pays out for you.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you mentioned that because it's something we
Speaker 3: never mentioned on NFL Daily, despite having seventeen shows a
Speaker 3: week and however many hours that y'all listen out there.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you so much.
Speaker 3: I saw reporting that week, you know, going into the Sunday,
Speaker 3: the national reporting was that, look, he just wanted to
Speaker 3: see what it looked like with Russell Wilson too.
Speaker 2: They got this guy.
Speaker 3: They play in the whole season for what it's like,
Speaker 3: And to your point about being Mike Tomlin and having
Speaker 3: that leeway, it's a long season. Like he knows what
Speaker 3: he has in Justin Fields. He wanted to see what
Speaker 3: he had in Russell Wilson, and he understands the quarterback
Speaker 3: change is not the whole team. We can win games
Speaker 3: with Russell Wilson or Justin Fields. But I want to
Speaker 3: see what it looks like with Russell Wilson before kind
Speaker 3: of making a final decision. I think he was viewing
Speaker 3: this Russell Wilson, not as like I'm going to be
Speaker 3: right about it, but I saw what I saw all
Speaker 3: off season, and I want to see and if I'm
Speaker 3: not feeling it after three or four games, I'm still
Speaker 3: Mike f and Tomlin, I'm still well compensated. I can
Speaker 3: switch back and I'll do that having known like what's
Speaker 3: right for my team.
Speaker 4: This is a guy who lives by mantras right, one
Speaker 4: of them being the standard is the standard, another one
Speaker 4: being we're not going to live in our fears. How
Speaker 4: about leave no stone unturned, which is exactly what he
Speaker 4: did when he made the switch to Russell Wilson. And
Speaker 4: it's working out for them, and we'll see where they
Speaker 4: go because Russ is going to have a game where
Speaker 4: he doesn't look great. There's been stretches in these games
Speaker 4: where he hasn't looked very good. I mean, he got
Speaker 4: almost boot off the field in the first half against
Speaker 4: the Jets, then came out and kind of lit them
Speaker 4: up and led them to a victory. Then kind of
Speaker 4: a similar story tonight doesn't get booed, but they're struggling
Speaker 4: to get in the end zone, especially in the red zone,
Speaker 4: and then they're able to find a way in there
Speaker 4: in the second half with that touchdown pass to Calvin Austin.
Speaker 4: That's a throw that I'm not sure justin fields makes,
Speaker 4: but Russell Wilsons certainly capable of doing it now.
Speaker 3: And Troy Aikman was pointing out, you know, a couple
Speaker 3: of the long balls were overthrown or underthrown, but his
Speaker 3: receivers are making good plays on it, and then a
Speaker 3: couple were absolutely beautiful. There were boosts tonight, I think
Speaker 3: after halftime when they had two fruitless possessions. Like those
Speaker 3: Steelers fans are they were, but they were just doing
Speaker 3: the team. Yeah, I know they're They're a little spoiled. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: their defense, I couldn't believe this stat has given up
Speaker 3: no third quarter points all season.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely crazy. Zero. Jalen Warren looked so much better.
Speaker 2: He was playing hurt early in the year.
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be a more important player
Speaker 3: as this season goes on. I think he had about
Speaker 3: fifty plus total yards at halftime, didn't really see the
Speaker 3: field that much. In the second half fifty nine yards,
Speaker 3: but doesn't matter. It gives him a really nice one
Speaker 3: to two punch. You mentioned Naja Harris. He helped get
Speaker 3: Deontay Banks benched, the first round pick of the Giants
Speaker 3: at cornerback from a year ago, who people were getting
Speaker 3: on his coaches were getting on for bad effort.
Speaker 2: Dove at Naje Harris. I didn't think.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it was bad technique, but it
Speaker 3: wasn't bad effort or anything. But it got him benched
Speaker 3: in this game their first round pick. Let's talk a
Speaker 3: little bit about the Giants. That touchdown they had with
Speaker 3: Tyrone Tracy in the fourth quarter ended a twenty three
Speaker 3: drive streak without a touchdown, which is brutal, but they
Speaker 3: almost got to four hundred yards in this game. They
Speaker 3: actually moved the ball great. Tyrone Tracy is a nice
Speaker 3: rookie running back. He left the game with a concussion.
Speaker 3: It's really disappointing because he had one hundred and forty
Speaker 3: five yards on the ground. He's really been playing well.
Speaker 3: They have a really nice rookie class. I can get
Speaker 3: into that. But the game ends with Daniel Jones still
Speaker 3: taking a couple of bad sacks and fumble and you know,
Speaker 3: throwing in an interception and even on a night where
Speaker 3: you know you hit a couple of long plays, you
Speaker 3: got Darius Slayton over one hundred yards. Like it was better,
Speaker 3: but better is still not enough. Like, you know, I
Speaker 3: think Daboll is calling good games and Daniel Jones maybe
Speaker 3: isn't totally executing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that speaks to the committee they made of
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, you know, the previous not last offseason, but
Speaker 4: the off season before when they felt they had to
Speaker 4: pay him, and they're kind of paying for it now
Speaker 4: because he has a quarterback with a visible ceiling and
Speaker 4: it's not very high, especially in situations in which you
Speaker 4: need to go the length of the field to score
Speaker 4: a game tying touchdown.
Speaker 5: Look, this team is is just limited overall.
Speaker 4: That's what happens when you That's how you end up
Speaker 4: losing twenty eight to three home to the Eagles last week.
Speaker 4: That's how you lose a game like this that was
Speaker 4: a winnable game, even when you're because their defense has
Speaker 4: been good enough to win. We've seen it at times
Speaker 4: when they've gotten their two wins this year and they
Speaker 4: played well enough to give them a chance at least
Speaker 4: in the first half on on Monday Night, and yeah.
Speaker 2: Five scoring drives three hundred and ninety six yards.
Speaker 4: It's not like they terrible there, but they're between the
Speaker 4: twenties offense, like they can thrive between the twenties.
Speaker 5: Once they get into the red zone, that's when things
Speaker 5: fall apart.
Speaker 4: They had a touchdown also wiped out by penalty as
Speaker 4: well an illegal shift, which I feel like we're seeing
Speaker 4: more of those this year than any season in the past.
Speaker 5: Dable was heated about it.
Speaker 4: There was an explanation on the broadcast that when player moved,
Speaker 4: another player needed to get set before they snapped the ball,
Speaker 4: and they didn't. I wouldn't call that a procedural error.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's a little ticky tack, but it just kind
Speaker 4: of speaks to what holds teams like this back overall.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Troy Aigman didn't enjoy it. He's like, I want
Speaker 3: a good game. He seemed sick of Daniel Jones. He's
Speaker 3: pretty critical, just noting how Daniel Jones has to really
Speaker 3: see a pass yeah before he thought it was in
Speaker 3: the timing, and that if he hit Molik neighbors and
Speaker 3: stride a couple different times. Neighbors ends up with seventy
Speaker 3: one yards and thirteen targets, but a crucial drop that
Speaker 3: forced them to kick a field goal when they were
Speaker 3: down eleven in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: But on that pass, it was.
Speaker 3: Like Daniel Jones didn't lead him, so it was like
Speaker 3: they were both at fall and Troy I think speaks
Speaker 3: for America, who's just tired of watching Daniel Jones in
Speaker 3: prime time. It's nothing personal, it's just it's been a lot.
Speaker 3: I mean, the record is crazy, it's like one in fifteen.
Speaker 3: It's just it's outrageous. And I saw some of the
Speaker 3: local Giants reporters saying, like it's time you got to
Speaker 3: pull the plug on him, and.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't fault them if they did.
Speaker 3: But I also watched that Drew lock couple drives that
Speaker 3: he had not good.
Speaker 2: Not even not good.
Speaker 3: They were like they were total, they were the worst
Speaker 3: of Drew. Like they were somehow significantly worse than your
Speaker 3: average Daniel Jones drive. And yes, you could prepare him
Speaker 3: for a week and it should go better. But I
Speaker 3: think it points to how badly this organization has been run.
Speaker 3: Because Joe Shane and this coaching staff last year decided
Speaker 3: to start Tommy Cutlets over a healthy Tyrod Taylor. After
Speaker 3: Tyrod Taylor got healthy, they got all caught up in
Speaker 3: the Tommy Cutlets and Tyro Taylor wasn't thrilled about it,
Speaker 3: you know, like he was. I think he was just
Speaker 3: hurt by it and being like, you're benching me for
Speaker 3: this guy?
Speaker 2: Are you? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: And then of course Tommy Cutlets turned into whatever, like
Speaker 3: three day old Tommy Cutlet's right, and they started benching him.
Speaker 3: You know, It's like they left it out in the
Speaker 3: sun too long, and they benched him, and they went
Speaker 3: back to Tyrod and he played pretty well. And then
Speaker 3: we saw on Hard Knocked And this is why it
Speaker 3: might be hard to get teams to do these hard knocks.
Speaker 3: Like we saw their whole plan was, oh, we're getting
Speaker 3: Tyrod back, We're getting Tired back. Dabo really wants Tyrad back.
Speaker 3: We really want Tyrad back. Well, number one, you didn't
Speaker 3: spend the money to do it. But number two, my
Speaker 3: guess is he just didn't want to go back. He
Speaker 3: was like, you bench I have no information on this,
Speaker 3: but you bench me for Tommy Cutletz.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go back.
Speaker 3: To that situation and it sounds like a small thing,
Speaker 3: but here we are in the season and they're trying
Speaker 3: to win games and they're just stuck between a rock
Speaker 3: and a hard plates because they got stuck with Drew Locke.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing is you want to call for
Speaker 4: a change, but the change, the option is not there.
Speaker 4: You're grasping its straws. You know, you are essentially the
Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins. They lost to a tongue a by loa.
Speaker 4: You had to go to Skylar Thomas and you get
Speaker 4: Tyler Huntley off the practice squad in Baltimore, and you
Speaker 4: knew what those results were going to be.
Speaker 5: They weren't going to be good and they were poor.
Speaker 4: And they're kind of in the same situation now because
Speaker 4: of the bed that they made, they now have to
Speaker 4: lie in it and all they have left to do
Speaker 4: is kind of soldier through the rest of the season.
Speaker 4: The crazy thing about this is that John Mara already
Speaker 4: said we're not anticipating changes at coach of GM.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: It's something that you say in week seven.
Speaker 4: That's something you say between Week seven and we when
Speaker 4: there's still a lot of season left to be played
Speaker 4: and you're playing a primetime game. But after three seasons
Speaker 4: of this, can you continue forward with the same regime
Speaker 4: that decided to pay this guy that decided to I mean,
Speaker 4: they let some rumblings out there in the offseason that
Speaker 4: maybe they were considering quarterback. I mean, now you're in
Speaker 4: a hard spot where you kind of need to make
Speaker 4: a change and there's really no option there. And that's
Speaker 4: because that's how they set themselves.
Speaker 5: Up for it.
Speaker 4: So it's it's it's pretty dark times for Giants fans.
Speaker 4: I feel bad for him because they've been stuck in
Speaker 4: this for a while now. But it starts with selecting
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, it continues with paying him and letting Saquon walk,
Speaker 4: and now you know, you're just forced to kind of
Speaker 4: grind through it, trudge through it until you see what
Speaker 4: else is out there.
Speaker 3: I wonder how many years of this it would take
Speaker 3: me to feel bad for Giants fans.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: Actually, well, I mean I just want them to be
Speaker 3: respect I want them to be respectable.
Speaker 2: This is miserable. This is miserable.
Speaker 3: Uh they've been They've really been miserable for too long.
Speaker 3: I know they had a couple of those little pop
Speaker 3: ups where they they they got into the playoffs with
Speaker 3: bad teams, one with with Macado and then one a
Speaker 3: couple of years ago, obviously with Dable, but those were
Speaker 3: just like they were like those little pop up restaurants
Speaker 3: that show up in your downtown for like a month, like, oh,
Speaker 3: that was great, but then it's an empty storefront again
Speaker 3: like immediately, except like you know, there's like there's like
Speaker 3: like dirty animals like crawling out of it, and like
Speaker 3: it's it's unsafe, like the whole it's not good.
Speaker 2: It's not good.
Speaker 3: It's giants, And the analogy fell apart after a while.
Speaker 3: They are one of ten teams in the NFL right now,
Speaker 3: this is this is on my radar that have two
Speaker 3: wins or less. Almost a third in the league is
Speaker 3: feeling pretty hopeless right now. Out of those two win teams,
Speaker 3: I think Miami is the only one with even a
Speaker 3: shred of hope. I guess Cleveland or Jacksonville, if they
Speaker 3: really wanted to look at the bright side, could maybe
Speaker 3: find some shred of hope.
Speaker 4: I don't know, there's a lot of hopeless to do.
Speaker 4: I would probably I don't even feel great about Jacksonville.
Speaker 4: Trevor Lars has been playing better, but I don't even
Speaker 4: feel great about it.
Speaker 3: I don't feel great about any of them. Obviously they
Speaker 3: have two wins. I was just thinking like Miami could
Speaker 3: convince themselves like yeah, maybe, and they're two and five,
Speaker 3: whereas most of these are one and six or two
Speaker 3: and six.
Speaker 2: It's ugly.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned those Mara quotes where he guaranteed
Speaker 3: they weren't making a change in season and they said
Speaker 3: they're not going to plan to in the off season.
Speaker 3: And I do actually want to mention on the positive
Speaker 3: side for the Giants, this rookie class is really productive
Speaker 3: for them. So Tyrone Tracy one hundred and forty five yards,
Speaker 3: why am I blanking now? On the tight end? Theo
Speaker 3: Johnson has been making plays each week, playing better and better,
Speaker 3: Malik Neighbors is an offensive Rookie of the Year candidate,
Speaker 3: and then their safety Nuban's been playing great like so
Speaker 3: that's a pretty good combination of rookies. You that's one
Speaker 3: case to keep Joe Shane around, is that your rookie
Speaker 3: class is playing pretty well.
Speaker 4: I do think about the fallout from a loss like this,
Speaker 4: because it is just one more loss, But it's at
Speaker 4: a point in the season where the trade deadline's coming up.
Speaker 4: They have guys that they can potentially move. Azizo Jelari
Speaker 4: has been on a heater lately. He had two sacks tonight.
Speaker 4: There are teams out there, like the Detroit Lions who
Speaker 4: need edge rushing help. Does a loss like this convince
Speaker 4: them that, hey, this is not the year. We're not
Speaker 4: turning it around, We're not going to make any changes.
Speaker 4: Let's get some assets back to build toward the future
Speaker 4: and move him now. I would be very curious to
Speaker 4: see if they're on the phones this week and potentially
Speaker 4: move a guy like him.
Speaker 3: I totally agree that we are now what nine eight
Speaker 3: days out from the trading deadline. Ojalari seems like you
Speaker 3: could actually get a decent pick for him.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Darius Slayton, there were reports that the Chiefs were interested
Speaker 3: in him.
Speaker 2: I think that was in the offseason stuff.
Speaker 3: Like you know, it's like every year they try to
Speaker 3: bench Darius Slayton and he ends up being their best
Speaker 3: wide receiver. Now they drafted Molik Neighbors, so he's no
Speaker 3: longer their best wide receiver, but he's like their second best.
Speaker 3: Depending on how you feel about Wandell Robinson, but all
Speaker 3: camp he was with the backups, and then they were like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, this guy's way better than Jalen Hyatt. Like
Speaker 3: he's a good NFL receiver. He's a good three, or
Speaker 3: he's a good four. He's a good starter. He had
Speaker 3: a big game tonight. You could absolutely trade those guys.
Speaker 3: Slayton probably wouldn't get that much o. Jalari a young
Speaker 3: pass rusher, he could get it done. And while I
Speaker 3: was talking about the rookies, I actually said Tyler Nuban
Speaker 3: when I was thinking Drew Phillips. Drew Phillips has been awesome.
Speaker 3: They actually, you know, I have two young players at
Speaker 3: that position. Nuban's been playing a lot and it's been
Speaker 3: solid enough. So that's a lot of rookie production. There's
Speaker 3: something to be happy about Giants. Before we laugh one
Speaker 3: more time at an emboy racing moment in Giants' history,
Speaker 3: let's listen to the local call. I have not heard
Speaker 3: this of the two point attempt when the Giants were
Speaker 3: down eight in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 6: Giants gold with a swinging gate that got the offensive
Speaker 6: line all out to the left.
Speaker 5: When they try to throw a wide receiver screen of neighbors.
Speaker 2: Was the all sorry to play.
Speaker 5: The crimmer just rolls across to a lot of the scrimmers.
Speaker 4: You didn't even look like.
Speaker 5: You saw the snap omar blocking.
Speaker 4: The incredulous response tells you everything you need to know.
Speaker 4: First off, to mention of the swinging gate, which I
Speaker 4: think back to when the swinging gate made an appearance
Speaker 4: in Washington game years ago. Uh, that's probably not going
Speaker 4: to bode well. And then you get that terrible execution,
Speaker 4: which I'm sure Brian Dable would blame that on bad
Speaker 4: execution afterward and not the intent. Uh, embarrassing moment for them.
Speaker 3: They had the blockers over there, they did not. I
Speaker 3: don't know how the ball got snapped so early or
Speaker 3: what happened. They had that enough blockers over there. It
Speaker 3: looked a lot like that weird Colts Patriots play. Yeah
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen the worst you know play ever fake ever.
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones was so mad after this play. I've never
Speaker 3: seen Daniel Jones this that. I don't know if he
Speaker 3: was mad at the coaches for calling the play or
Speaker 3: more likely for some player for the execution. But no
Speaker 3: one was on the count of the snap at all.
Speaker 3: It was totally discombobulated. And yes, I think it was
Speaker 3: Alex high Smith who broke that up and that was
Speaker 3: one of the more embarrassing plays of the entire season.
Speaker 2: But a fun call from w f A N. That
Speaker 2: was Bob Poppa in Carl Banks.
Speaker 3: I actually wanted a little more pathos, a little more
Speaker 3: just anger of just how on national television they're they're
Speaker 3: just showing their ass.
Speaker 4: But that was more just it's that, And it's also
Speaker 4: the whole thing that that has gained a lot of
Speaker 4: traction recently, which is that you're down you know eight,
Speaker 4: you go for two so you know what you need
Speaker 4: later and that sort of thing. I disagree with it.
Speaker 4: I think you take the extra point. If you want
Speaker 4: to go for two to take a one point lead
Speaker 4: late in the game, you do it then. But at
Speaker 4: least don't force yourself out to go for too little.
Speaker 3: Why if people have such a problem with it, it's fine, No,
Speaker 3: what is minimize written down eight? Every time when you're
Speaker 3: saying this, it never affects it, Like, yeah, it could
Speaker 3: have possibly affected something eventually, but it never did, which
Speaker 3: is also the most likely outcome. But if you get
Speaker 3: the two, then you go win the game overtime is
Speaker 3: a disaster. So if you're a team like the Giant,
Speaker 3: you try to win the game and you could have
Speaker 3: gotten the two. Who cares they never even.
Speaker 4: Had the I really really wanted Daniel Jones to lead
Speaker 4: a potential game time touchdown drive just so they had
Speaker 4: to go for two, just so I could prove my
Speaker 4: point that, oh, look, now you have to go for it.
Speaker 2: Then if they got it, then you would have just
Speaker 2: been quiet. If they got it, it would have been
Speaker 2: proven the point.
Speaker 5: Again, it's just an odds thing.
Speaker 3: Let's not live in our fears, even if Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3: Let's not live in our fears. All right, let's take
Speaker 3: a break because I fear this show being two hours long,
Speaker 3: and we're going to do some news and our players
Speaker 3: of the week on the other side back on NFL Daily,
Speaker 3: and yes, we will do some news with you, Shook
Speaker 3: before letting you off into the Cleveland night where you'll
Speaker 3: be watching some what games on the docket. You're crazy
Speaker 3: because it's almost one am in Cleveland and you like
Speaker 3: knocking out these QB indecks watches.
Speaker 4: Before you know, Greg, I'm a creative and my best
Speaker 4: hours are between midnight and three thirty in the morning,
Speaker 4: and I also have six games left in the dockets,
Speaker 4: so we got to make some moves here if we
Speaker 4: want to get.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the game? What do you go first? What's
Speaker 2: the strategy?
Speaker 3: You save like the best games for late because they're
Speaker 3: sleepy or it's harder to focus. So let's knock out
Speaker 3: the ones you're not excited as about as much.
Speaker 4: I usually save one of the best games for absolutely last,
Speaker 4: but we do grind through a couple of decent games.
Speaker 4: So we try to knock out like I knocked out Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Just just answer answer the question, what's next? You haven't decided.
Speaker 4: We got Chicago Washington on deck, We got Gufflo Seattle,
Speaker 4: we got Carolina Dendro, and we got Indy.
Speaker 3: He watched Carolina Denver, which I would have thought would
Speaker 3: have been one of the worst games before, right before
Speaker 3: Monday night football.
Speaker 2: You know Bo Nicks throwing the ball down the field.
Speaker 2: Bryce Young.
Speaker 3: I actually was like, you know what, I know that
Speaker 3: those two fourth quarter interceptions. But he looked better. He
Speaker 3: looked at least more like the Bryce Young of the
Speaker 3: last month of last season, which had work to do,
Speaker 3: but looked like an NFL player who was at least
Speaker 3: trying things. He did look like a different player, so
Speaker 3: I appreciated that. And there were at least three to
Speaker 3: four good throws, which is like, okay, thanks.
Speaker 5: Those those are the positive vibes that I'll need to
Speaker 5: carry me to three am.
Speaker 3: Yes, and it wasn't that positive. I mean, this is
Speaker 3: he like got a fifty six pff, that's all I need.
Speaker 3: But it's better than like a thirty five. And there
Speaker 3: were there were positives. All right, Let's get to the news.
Speaker 3: No screaming headlines on Monday. But I took it as
Speaker 3: a screaming headline that Shane Stiken, asked twice whether Anthony
Speaker 3: Richardson would be a starting quarterback this week, said he
Speaker 3: was evaluating that.
Speaker 2: I took that to mean he's getting benched.
Speaker 3: We have another show that'll go up on Wednesday, Quarterback Island,
Speaker 3: and if he is bench we have the news. We'll
Speaker 3: talk about it more in depth there. But I'm just
Speaker 3: calling my shot that every time a coach says this
Speaker 3: on Monday, that they're evaluating a change, there's a change.
Speaker 4: I mean, there was a time when Antonio Pierce said
Speaker 4: he would do that, and then he made the change
Speaker 4: the next day. He didn't even need the whole week. Look,
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco has been the better option for them, and
Speaker 4: I know it sounds crazy, but he has. I mean,
Speaker 4: he's put up much better numbers. Their offense has been
Speaker 4: a much better unit with him at quarterback then with Anthony.
Speaker 4: Richardson struggles with accuracy he did before he got hurt.
Speaker 4: He did you know before he got hurt last year,
Speaker 4: He's missing a lot of throws. He finished ten for
Speaker 4: thirty two. Look, this is a team that's trying to
Speaker 4: be in the race for the AFC South. They just
Speaker 4: lost to the Texans for the second time this year.
Speaker 4: It's perfectly the time to evaluate that when you have
Speaker 4: a little bit of evidence that Joe Flacco can lift
Speaker 4: this offense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he is a franchise quarterback based on
Speaker 3: his draft pick done. And when you say we're evaluating everything,
Speaker 3: just asking if this guy's starting, to me, that means
Speaker 3: he's not starting. I think the matchup Sunday Night Football
Speaker 3: against Brian Flores, I think that could inform it too
Speaker 3: that maybe that is not the spot for him. I
Speaker 3: have some thoughts that Richardson wasn't as nearly as bad
Speaker 3: as I expected. Actually, I thought he played The interception
Speaker 3: was so bad, but I thought he played well in
Speaker 3: the second half of that game. But I also agree
Speaker 3: with everything you said, maybe similar to Russell Wilson justin
Speaker 3: Field's conversation, the offense just clearly runs better with Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3: So I don't think it's a big deal if you
Speaker 3: bench him and bring him back in three.
Speaker 5: Weeks about many football games. It's just about many football games, right.
Speaker 3: But he also Joe Flacko was not starting the rest
Speaker 3: of the season. I think just accept that, like it's
Speaker 3: not going to be some magical carpet, right, and he's
Speaker 3: not going to just keep on starting forever, I guess
Speaker 3: unless he just wins every game and stays healthy. But
Speaker 3: I don't expect that to happen. Let's let's move on
Speaker 3: to another coach that used to be in Indianapolis, Matt Eberflus.
Speaker 2: He spoke about.
Speaker 3: Tyreek Stevenson, Oh, Tyreek Stevenson and his misadventures on that
Speaker 3: final Hail Mary.
Speaker 6: We just got to do a better job at executing,
Speaker 6: you know, on the defensive side of the wall the
Speaker 6: Hail Mary, you know, and and the setup for us
Speaker 6: is just have a body on a body. We're picking
Speaker 6: guys up down the field. And again we just talked
Speaker 6: about that, you know, in the team meeting. You know,
Speaker 6: Tyreek's got to do a good job of putting his
Speaker 6: body on eighty five and boxing him out. And you know,
Speaker 6: we always got to do good job with that. And
Speaker 6: KB was the guy that was going to knock.
Speaker 5: The ball down.
Speaker 2: Bus me.
Speaker 3: Uh, Tyreek Stevenson, I don't I don't blame Maddie Reflus,
Speaker 3: but he volunteered that without directly being asked. Tyreek Stevenson's
Speaker 3: assignment on the Hail Mary was specifically.
Speaker 2: Covering Noah Brown.
Speaker 3: So if you wondered why was there a guy just
Speaker 3: sitting wide ass open in the end zone, there you go.
Speaker 3: If we didn't think it was bad enough for Tyreek
Speaker 3: Stevenson before that information, man.
Speaker 4: Well it's hard to get to that guy when you're
Speaker 4: spending the first three seconds of the snap near the
Speaker 4: opposing sideline taunting and then have to double back and
Speaker 4: figure out what's going on. I mean, we saw him
Speaker 4: by the end of it. He was just running toward
Speaker 4: the crowd instead of being on a guy, and.
Speaker 3: He amazingly like recovered in time to you know, go
Speaker 3: hit the hit the ball away. But he was just
Speaker 3: totally scrambled perfectly, and it was crazy.
Speaker 2: It was like a kid just.
Speaker 3: Getting called out by a parent in the middle of
Speaker 3: doing something bad and being like, oh no, oh no,
Speaker 3: what is happening?
Speaker 2: And man, everyone buried him. His teammates kind of buried him.
Speaker 3: He spoke publicly, I under you know, to not publicly
Speaker 3: privately to his team and addressed it and apologized.
Speaker 2: And that's a tough one. I do like eber Fluce though.
Speaker 3: If you on the YouTube, just he's got the hair
Speaker 3: working in front of the bears drop back on the
Speaker 3: on the zoom.
Speaker 2: I like it all.
Speaker 3: And I think Stevenson gave him a little bit of
Speaker 3: cover for playing such soft defense to even set up
Speaker 3: that hail Mary never rushed three shout out to in
Speaker 3: the play before, just to kind of give him fifteen
Speaker 3: yards to the sideline to set it up.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Patrick Claybahn.
Speaker 3: We tape those Sunday night shows right after those games end,
Speaker 3: so it was a mad dash to start that show
Speaker 3: with all the information. And when he brought that whole
Speaker 3: Stevenson thing up mid show, I that was the first
Speaker 3: I had heard of it, of him even bringing it
Speaker 3: up because and next thing, I know, that is the
Speaker 3: biggest story in the league. Just some other small Bears news.
Speaker 3: Braxton Jones is week to week with an injury, so
Speaker 3: their offensive line could have some issues. I'm gonna give
Speaker 3: you some more sound, Nick Schuok. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 3: Sean Payton responding to the Panthers not being had that
Speaker 3: he was running.
Speaker 2: Up the score.
Speaker 7: Hey, coach, after the game, a number of Panthers players
Speaker 7: that were frustrated felt like you were running.
Speaker 1: I know, I know.
Speaker 5: How do you respond to that?
Speaker 7: Listen, I said it last night. We're trying to finish
Speaker 7: the game the right way. We're not trying to run
Speaker 7: up the score on anyone. It's the National Football League.
Speaker 7: I've been in games with a twenty eight point lead
Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter and lost. So we're trying to finish.
Speaker 7: The Burton throw from Sutton is trying to continue a drive.
Speaker 7: Played better.
Speaker 5: Ooh, play better?
Speaker 2: Oh, Spice. I mean he's right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But.
Speaker 3: You know q Q Will Ferrell like, I don't believe you,
Speaker 3: Like it's like you are trying to run up the score.
Speaker 2: It's fine, there.
Speaker 3: I don't know what is between those two he didn
Speaker 3: interview with Caroline a few years ago.
Speaker 2: But I don't know that.
Speaker 3: I don't know what's between something going on there. But
Speaker 3: you're trying to run up the score. If it was
Speaker 3: like one of your favorite coaches, like one of your
Speaker 3: friends in the league. On the other side, I don't
Speaker 3: I do not think you was going to do that.
Speaker 3: Not only did he do the fake field goal up
Speaker 3: twenty eight seven, early fourth This is fresh in my
Speaker 3: mind because I just watched the game, but that, you know,
Speaker 3: Mike the pass from the full back. He said, we're
Speaker 3: trying to continue a drive. It was like under four
Speaker 3: minutes to go and they're up twenty eight seven and
Speaker 3: they're in scoring range, like.
Speaker 2: You are trying to run it up. That's fine. I
Speaker 2: get why you don't want to own it. I love it.
Speaker 2: Do play better. It is the NFL, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you don't want the score run up on you, yeah,
Speaker 4: play better. I'm glad he ended it that way because
Speaker 4: it was kind of like a backhand way of saying, yeah,
Speaker 4: I was making a point like I wasn't just trying
Speaker 4: to finish a drive. Play better if you don't want
Speaker 4: that to happen to you.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: We got some good news on the Packers injuries from Sunday,
Speaker 3: and Love, according to Ian Rapaport, our insider, does not
Speaker 3: have a serious growing injury. There's a chance he could
Speaker 3: miss this week's game against the Lions, but just reading
Speaker 3: between the lines, it's going to be day to day
Speaker 3: and sounds like there's some hope that he could play.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because he suffered the injury in the first
Speaker 3: quarter first series. I thought he threw the ball pretty
Speaker 3: well while he was out there, but it eventually became
Speaker 3: too much for him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you could tell he was limited.
Speaker 4: A lot of his game is pocket navigation, extending the
Speaker 4: play using his athleticism, and it just wasn't there. It
Speaker 4: affected some of his throws, but for the most part
Speaker 4: he was still there, but he couldn't operate the offense
Speaker 4: at the level that they wanted to. So when he
Speaker 4: aggravated it further and sit onto the sideline, it was
Speaker 4: it was for the best verybody. I think he kind
Speaker 4: of knew that in that moment where he was like, look, man,
Speaker 4: I'm not at one hundred percent and I'm hurting us
Speaker 4: right now, so make the change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Malik Willis came in and got it done.
Speaker 3: More on that a little later. That's what it's called
Speaker 3: the tease. Jay r Alexander their cornerback, who to me,
Speaker 3: there's a big drop off at cornerback for them if
Speaker 3: he is out. Also got an MRI on his knee.
Speaker 3: He got hurt on that last offensive play for Jacksonville,
Speaker 3: the touchdown by Evan Ingram. And it's also not supposed
Speaker 3: to be serious. It's going to be day to day.
Speaker 3: Sounds like he has a chance to play this week.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately that's not the case for Christian Kirk. He has
Speaker 3: a broken collar bone. He is out for the season.
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas their offensive Rookie of the Year candidate in
Speaker 3: a world where Jade Daniels doesn't exist. I just realized,
Speaker 3: I said, Malik Neighbors is a candidate. But they do
Speaker 3: that thing you remember since at NFL Honors they do
Speaker 3: this thing where the nominees show up right, Yeah in
Speaker 3: that weird because it's just a vote, and so they
Speaker 3: say the nominees I guess this is true of all
Speaker 3: awards things, but the vote was like three weeks before that.
Speaker 3: They like, if if the three nominees are forty eight votes,
Speaker 3: one vote, one vote. It's like they're inviting all three
Speaker 3: guys and I guess you just don't find out.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think about it like the Grammys, Like
Speaker 4: Tyler the Creator released flower Boy and had no real
Speaker 4: shot of winning the Album of the Year because Kendrick
Speaker 4: Lamar released an album that year, but he was nominated,
Speaker 4: and you can still say, hey, I was nominated.
Speaker 5: That's still like second place. That's still you know, worth highlighting.
Speaker 3: I mean, you never know what the Grammy is something,
Speaker 3: although in that they that wouldn't be the case, like
Speaker 3: Tyler the Creator is not the one that they're gonna
Speaker 3: give it to. But we've seen some pretty wild like
Speaker 3: rap category Grammys victories, what's his name?
Speaker 2: You know who I'm thinking?
Speaker 5: I mean Killer Mike won it last year, which is
Speaker 5: a great album.
Speaker 2: Let's not what you're getting you expect.
Speaker 4: No, it was a great album, but it was not
Speaker 4: a name that you would necessarily expect on an annual basis.
Speaker 2: Let's move on.
Speaker 3: Will I try to think of the rapper that everyone
Speaker 3: is screaming into their telephone, the White rapper Brian Thomas
Speaker 3: is Ribs Ribs injury day to day. It sounds like
Speaker 3: it's just a bruise and that there's a chance he
Speaker 3: could play through it. They have the Eagles this week.
Speaker 3: That game was gonna be on Sunday Night Football, but
Speaker 3: they flexed it out. It's the Doug Peterson revenge game
Speaker 3: versus the organization that fired him.
Speaker 5: I'm pissed, Angelo, Will you rethinking logic?
Speaker 2: No, this is so annoying.
Speaker 3: Just let's move on to the next story while and
Speaker 3: then I'll throw it to you and then I'll google
Speaker 3: it and it'll take two seconds. We've gotten great trades
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks. How do you like josh
Speaker 3: Uch to the Chiefs for a twenty twenty six sixth rounder.
Speaker 3: Josh Ucha is an edgeresher that has only played with
Speaker 3: the New England Patriots so far in his career.
Speaker 5: And now he's on a different team.
Speaker 4: This is one of those like the latest move to
Speaker 4: ship a guy out of New England in an I
Speaker 4: guess a relatively dark year. They just came off a win,
Speaker 4: but I think he was kind of phased out of
Speaker 4: the action there. They already moved on for Matjudan to
Speaker 4: be in the year. I mean, I'm not saying that
Speaker 4: this goes back to the soft comments. But it is
Speaker 4: interesting that you take, you know, a six round pick
Speaker 4: for a guy that was part of your rotation at
Speaker 4: some point kind of falling out of favor. But it's
Speaker 4: a new era on New England. They're not afraid to
Speaker 4: make trades and they're not afraid to ship guys out
Speaker 4: when they indeed it necessary. And hopefully I've filed enough
Speaker 4: time for you to find the answer.
Speaker 2: Thank you. It was Maclamore. Of course, it was over
Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar. That's the thing. It was over good Kidnet
Speaker 2: City twenty twelve. Oh no, twenty fourteen, that.
Speaker 5: Was that was a time shop.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's an all timer.
Speaker 5: Seattle rejoices. In the rest of the world cringes.
Speaker 3: I don't even think Seattle was because ultimately it was
Speaker 3: like kind of an anvil that he had to wear
Speaker 3: around his neck, like it would have been better off
Speaker 3: if he just hadn't won it just for him and
Speaker 3: for everyone else. Good move by the way by the Chiefs,
Speaker 3: like why not? But also like Patriots fans, I saw
Speaker 3: you only got a sixth for josh ucc Like Joshucci
Speaker 3: wasn't making any impact on this team and wasn't making
Speaker 3: any impact on last year's team. I've always thought he's
Speaker 3: a good like he has such burst that there should
Speaker 3: be a way to use him, and he had. He
Speaker 3: was awesome in twenty twenty two, but ultimately he was
Speaker 3: under Belichick for you know, three years there and only
Speaker 3: one of them was really productive. Or four years under
Speaker 3: Belichick and only one of them was productive.
Speaker 5: So it is what it is.
Speaker 3: It also wouldn't surprise me if you know, he plays
Speaker 3: seventeen snaps a game for the Chiefs and ends up
Speaker 3: having like a huge moment in the AFC Championship, because
Speaker 3: that's what's what like great teams do. It's like what
Speaker 3: the Patriots used to do too. But you weren't getting
Speaker 3: anything out of him, so he was barely even playing
Speaker 3: at this point. Dave Canalis is unsure if Bryce Young
Speaker 3: will start this week because Dalton is not healthy. So
Speaker 3: he's basically saying, if Dalton is healthy, then he's going
Speaker 3: back to him. And I get it, because the fourth
Speaker 3: quarter Bryce Young threw a couple of interceptions.
Speaker 2: Is too bad.
Speaker 3: He didn't quite play well enough to make the strong case,
Speaker 3: even though I did think it was significantly better than
Speaker 3: the first couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: Just throws a wrench into our whole theory that they're
Speaker 4: going to move on from Bryce Young because Dandy Dalton's
Speaker 4: not available. I think he throws a wrench into their
Speaker 4: plan as well, where they're forced to play him and
Speaker 4: we are approaching the trade deadline. But we'll see. That's
Speaker 4: something to monitor. It's not like Dalton's light in the
Speaker 4: world on fire. In fact, he's regressed significantly since that
Speaker 4: first start when they won over the Raiders. But this
Speaker 4: is a bad football team that's just kind of trying
Speaker 4: to get to the end of the season and figure
Speaker 4: out what they have. And then includes a quarterback.
Speaker 3: Make it happen, Dolphins fifth round pick that turns into
Speaker 3: a fourth who says no. Dk Metcalf is expected back
Speaker 3: this week. There's optimism. That's a big NFC West game,
Speaker 3: that's a four to twenty five game against the Rams.
Speaker 2: That's fun. Derek Carr is expected back this week for
Speaker 2: the Saints.
Speaker 3: They're not making any other big wholesale changes with coaches
Speaker 3: or front off as they're just hoping to scrape back
Speaker 3: into it. They're actually playing the Panthers this week, so
Speaker 3: they will be favored in a game. It's been a
Speaker 3: while for the Saints.
Speaker 2: Some other injuries.
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Husu Cormoa said that all is well on his
Speaker 3: social media. I know it was a scary injury Nick
Speaker 3: that he had to spend the night in a hospital
Speaker 3: after he hurt his neck on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they backboarded him very quickly, took the face mask off,
Speaker 4: the helmet, and card him off on replay. I was
Speaker 4: very concerned for his well being. Kind of one of
Speaker 4: those hits where you can see the rest of his
Speaker 4: body go limp and he's very away as if he
Speaker 4: was concussed. So I was very concerned. It's positive news
Speaker 4: to hear that all as well. Having said that, don't
Speaker 4: expect him back on the field anytime soon. We'll wait
Speaker 4: for more details later though.
Speaker 3: Speaking of guys who are bawling out as possible trade pieces,
Speaker 3: Zadarius Smith is playing very well right now. If the
Speaker 3: Browns wanted to pull that repcord, who knows, maybe they'll
Speaker 3: win another game and they'll be like, hey, this season's
Speaker 3: not over.
Speaker 2: We have a quarterback.
Speaker 5: Now win ten straight.
Speaker 3: Some Dolphins in jury news, Javon Holland, their safety had
Speaker 3: an injury that did not look good on Sunday, but
Speaker 3: they say the worst case scenario has been avoided and
Speaker 3: sounds like he's week to week. They didn't actually put
Speaker 3: an official ignation on him, so we'll see.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel did say, Bradley Chubb, if you've been wondering
Speaker 3: about him, the great pass rusher is still a long
Speaker 3: way off. So sounds like his recovery from another major
Speaker 3: knee injury is really taken a long time. And that
Speaker 3: is it for news and that means Nick, it is
Speaker 3: time for Captain's Corner, presented by Captain morganst the part
Speaker 3: of the show where we pick one player could be,
Speaker 3: could be a coach. There's no rules to this thing.
Speaker 3: That just that struck your fancy, that deserves the captaincy.
Speaker 4: Oh well, I didn't realize the coaches were in play.
Speaker 4: Having said that we are, we're going to go to
Speaker 4: the guy who said I believe it was unwavering, faith,
Speaker 4: full belief, something along those lines. He made like a
Speaker 4: kind of awkward pregame interview with Amanda valley Onis from CBS,
Speaker 4: not because I've heard of but because he just gave
Speaker 4: her the same response to every question Jameis Winston. What
Speaker 4: a day for the quarterback in Cleveland. Of course I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go with him. Breathes life into it and all
Speaker 4: that had been dormant, if not on life support for
Speaker 4: most of the season. Throw us for three thirty four
Speaker 4: and three touchdowns, including a go ahead touchdown the final
Speaker 4: minute of the game to Cedric Tillman, a guy that
Speaker 4: nobody probably ever heard of before Sunday unless.
Speaker 5: You're a Browns fan.
Speaker 4: If anything, in this city when it pertains to the Browns,
Speaker 4: everybody here had given up on them for at least
Speaker 4: one week. I got text from friends that said, we
Speaker 4: are so back. They're not back, but for one Sunday
Speaker 4: they had some fun and that's worth a spot on
Speaker 4: Captain's corner.
Speaker 3: Hey, it's it's not all bad. Browns win. Calves are
Speaker 3: four and oh nice win over there, Nicks on Monday night.
Speaker 3: That's a good team. Wouldn't surprise me if they're in
Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference finals something like that.
Speaker 5: Let's book it.
Speaker 3: I don't know how the Guardians feel about the Yankees,
Speaker 3: but I would imagine they're happy that they're tell you.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you after the Calves game on Friday night,
Speaker 4: I went over to a bar in downtown Cleveland and
Speaker 4: watched the World Series, and they as soon as Freddy
Speaker 4: Freeman hit that walk off, that place erupted like the
Speaker 4: Guardians did it.
Speaker 5: They're very much rooty against the Yankees.
Speaker 3: Okay, I would assume as someone who would for a
Speaker 3: team that was, you know, does root for to the rivals,
Speaker 3: the the Yankees.
Speaker 2: Now, of course I'm a Dodgers fan.
Speaker 3: We I'm a lifelong Dodgers fan since March and uh
Speaker 3: since Atani joined and look, my wife's much more into it.
Speaker 3: But I really appreciate the professionalism of Eric Roberts and
Speaker 3: Randy Chavez and them going up three to zero no
Speaker 3: matter what. This is the last Dodgers versus NFL daily show.
Speaker 3: So as great as the production has been, Eric, why
Speaker 3: don't you join us now? As great as the production
Speaker 3: has been, like, how much is it gonna get even
Speaker 3: better now that this dog is running?
Speaker 9: I wanted to watch two different things. I was pretty
Speaker 9: stoked when this when the schedule for the World Series
Speaker 9: came out because it was what a Friday, Saturday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, Yes,
Speaker 9: and I in the back of my head, I noted,
Speaker 9: all right, well, this is the only combative scheduling I
Speaker 9: have to deal with.
Speaker 3: It's the only one. And they played. They played great tonight.
Speaker 3: So congrats to all the Dodgers fans out there. It
Speaker 3: has been a great series so far. You don't don't
Speaker 3: want to assume anything, but three to zero is nice.
Speaker 3: And they're playing some confident baseball. You know what else
Speaker 3: is confident? We're still in the captain's corner. By the way,
Speaker 3: we can have baseball talk there. Matt Laflir, I guess
Speaker 3: I am opening up two coaches this week. Let's listen
Speaker 3: to Matt Lafleur talk about that great throw that Malik
Speaker 3: Willis had to Jaden Reid with under two minutes to
Speaker 3: go to set up the Packers victory over the Jaguars
Speaker 3: and how it came about.
Speaker 8: Not only was it a can play, but it was
Speaker 8: a play that we didn't even have up in the
Speaker 8: game plan that we we talked about it on Tuesday.
Speaker 8: We thought there might be something there, decided against it,
Speaker 8: and then you know, we ran the keeper earlier in
Speaker 8: the game and Vrabel suggested it. He's like, hey, it
Speaker 8: looks like the play is there, and so we put
Speaker 8: it in on the sideline, so no reps in practice.
Speaker 8: I think that's a big time credit to our guys
Speaker 8: to be able to go out there and execute it.
Speaker 8: Jaden Reid, Tucker, the line, the backs, everybody's selling it,
Speaker 8: and then ultimately Elite making the throw. So that was
Speaker 8: a pretty cool one, probably one I'll never forget.
Speaker 3: That is an awesome explanation. Everyone everyone's the captain here.
Speaker 3: We're giving so many captaincies. Lafleur, great explanation. I think
Speaker 3: it was Rob Dmofski who asked that question. Great questions
Speaker 3: get great great answers, because he asked, was that like
Speaker 3: a can play where he saw how at the last
Speaker 3: second he saw a certain look that was gonna make
Speaker 3: it happen? Shout out to I believe it's Jason Rabel,
Speaker 3: the wide receivers coach, who helped put.
Speaker 2: The play in in the middle of the game.
Speaker 3: And then most importantly Malik Willis for throwing a beautiful ball,
Speaker 3: Jayden Reid for throwing I mean for running a really
Speaker 3: cool out Lafleur or Vrabel whoever drew it up where
Speaker 3: it's a great kind of leak concept where read looks
Speaker 3: like he's gonna block and then it's like a wheel
Speaker 3: route from your wide receiver. Just very creative, very cool,
Speaker 3: and that's coaching. And I love how Lafleur said, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's one I'm gonna remember for the rest of my
Speaker 3: life because I.
Speaker 2: Think that's that's like coaching Nirvana. Having to play like
Speaker 2: that that you drew up in the middle that wins
Speaker 2: the ballgame for Yeah.
Speaker 4: If you ever wonder why there's football stickos out there
Speaker 4: like Greg and myself and many others, this is why.
Speaker 4: It's not just that the action on the field is entertaining,
Speaker 4: or that it's a very physical, at times brutal sport.
Speaker 5: It's the chess match in the game.
Speaker 4: It's the way that staffs can work together, identify weaknesses
Speaker 4: and potential exploits during the game, then come back to
Speaker 4: them in crucial moments, capitalize and win games because of it.
Speaker 5: That's the beauty of the sport of football.
Speaker 2: Right there, Good stuff, Nick Shook.
Speaker 3: That was the Captain's Corner, presented by Captain Morgan's delicious
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Speaker 3: Please drink responsibly. That is it for our Monday night show.
Speaker 3: We will be back on Wednesday. Been teasing it all
Speaker 3: week long. Quarterback Island, Jordan Rodrieg, Steve Weisch, Colleen Wolf
Speaker 3: will join me on that show. And yes, yeah, thank
Speaker 3: you for joining me Nick Nick at nights, Sunday Nights,
Speaker 3: Monday nights, each and every week. Can't wait to have
Speaker 3: you on again later. And yeah, when Daniel Jones is
Speaker 3: losing in primetime and then Steelers are winning on Monday Night, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know football is truly back