Speaker 1: The volume.
Speaker 2: This week on Prime Cuts, John Middlecoff on the disaster
Speaker 2: in Dallas and all things NFL. Nick Right, a fast
Speaker 2: paced hour and my top takes of the week. What
Speaker 2: an s show was that by Philadelphia. So I went
Speaker 2: three and two on my playoff picks. But I thought Philadelphia,
Speaker 2: you know, it was one of the games. I thought,
Speaker 2: you know, they'll win. There's not much there with Tampa
Speaker 2: this thing. If Tampa Bay could catch in the first half,
Speaker 2: the game would have been over started the second quarter.
Speaker 2: Philadelphia was not even competitive. And you know I was
Speaker 2: thinking about this is that we all know that even
Speaker 2: competent NFL coaches. Dan Quinn for Atlanta was a competent coach,
Speaker 2: not great, but competent. He was elevated significantly by Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 2: That we know, and there have been a lot of
Speaker 2: coaches through the years who have been helped by an assistant.
Speaker 2: They reached their highest form of head coaching with a
Speaker 2: really good assistant, but they don't necessarily fall off the table.
Speaker 2: I mean Sean McVay, Shanahan, they just run through assistants
Speaker 2: and coordinators. They're elite coaches. It doesn't affect him. And
Speaker 2: then the B coaches Dan Quinn are clearly elevated by
Speaker 2: an elite coordinator. But Nick Siriani's not an A or
Speaker 2: a B. He's probably a C or a D. And
Speaker 2: if you take Shane Steichen's play calling, not Shane Steiken
Speaker 2: just being in the building, just his play calling away
Speaker 2: from Nick Siriani, you have a coach that had the
Speaker 2: most embarrassing opening press conference ever, who struggled in year
Speaker 2: one when he called the plays, and here in his
Speaker 2: final year the team got progressively worse. Like Brandon Stally
Speaker 2: bad every week. Brandon Staley good job of climbing the
Speaker 2: coaching ladder. He wasn't ready to be a head coach
Speaker 2: in the National Football League, Nick sah I remember when
Speaker 2: he first got the job. You know, I said, I
Speaker 2: call people and I was talking to a GM tonight
Speaker 2: about Jedfish going from Arizona to Washington, and I was
Speaker 2: just asking some questions about recruiting and personnel and blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. But I usually do that. I'll call GMS,
Speaker 2: text GMS and say, hey, what do you know? What
Speaker 2: do you think? And on Sirianni, two of my executive
Speaker 2: friends said, I don't think he's ready for the job.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's ready for the Philadelphia Eagles. It's
Speaker 2: a high pressure, high leverage job. That's a tough job.
Speaker 2: And so then he butchers the press conference, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh Jesus, google it. It's I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 2: Go look at Sean mcvay's opening press conference, Kyle Shanahan's,
Speaker 2: go look at the young code, Demiko Ryans, I mean
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin's first press conference. Go look at Nick Sirianni's.
Speaker 2: And so I had sources say he's not ready. The
Speaker 2: opening press conference, his first year is ugly. Then he
Speaker 2: relinquished his play calling, and you think, well, this guy
Speaker 2: is something, this guy is something here, folks. The truth
Speaker 2: eventually comes out, and I don't think my problem with
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley is my same problem with Nick Sirianni. What
Speaker 2: does Philadelphia do well? What are the Chargers do well?
Speaker 2: You went from narrow losses to touchdown losses to embarrassing losses.
Speaker 2: It just got worse over time. It's like having a
Speaker 2: bad boss in any industry. The company gets worse really fast.
Speaker 2: So I think you know, you could certainly argue Mike
Speaker 2: McCarthy as Kellen Moore left upgraded the cowboy offense. You
Speaker 2: could argue he's won twelve games, twelve games, twelve games,
Speaker 2: best deack we've ever seen. You got to keep him.
Speaker 2: You could certainly argue Mike Tomlin they lost today. He's
Speaker 2: Mike Tomley. He's never had a losing season. Right, Those
Speaker 2: are different conversations. But with Brandon Staley and Nick Sirianni,
Speaker 2: this isn't going to get better. I mean, this doesn't.
Speaker 2: I don't see the hope.
Speaker 3: I don't even know.
Speaker 2: What I watched. And the Chargers. You have these young
Speaker 2: coaches who probably had somebody on that resume. For the record,
Speaker 2: the Eagles were going to hire Staley until the Chargers
Speaker 2: did think about that. You know, he had probably somebody
Speaker 2: on the resume made a call for him and maybe interviews. Well,
Speaker 2: but I don't know where you go if you're Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Like again, look at the losses in the playoffs. Kevin
Speaker 2: Stefanski lost, he was on his fourth quarterback. Mike McDaniel
Speaker 2: lost warm Weather to on the road against Mahomes. Sean
Speaker 2: McVay lost hell of a game, rebuilding year to begin with.
Speaker 2: I can look at Mike McCarthy, I mean, the offense
Speaker 2: was better when Kellen Moore left. I could make arguments
Speaker 2: for all the losing coaches. I don't know what to
Speaker 2: do with this. I don't know what to do with this.
Speaker 2: It didn't look like he's read. He can't coach. I mean,
Speaker 2: what do they do well? And they got personnel. So
Speaker 2: I mean Troy Aikman said on the broadcast very early
Speaker 2: he didn't like the body language of Philadelphia. I mean
Speaker 2: for Troy to say that, go out and say that,
Speaker 2: it's like, wow, he's seeing something or hearing something.
Speaker 3: And he was right.
Speaker 2: The coaching disparities in these playoffs, Man, I know it
Speaker 2: sounds impulsive and overreactionary to say Sirianni was in the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. You know you got to move on. You
Speaker 2: tell me his theatrics on the sidelines, the regression of
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. I mean Jalen Hurts, justin Herbert. We know
Speaker 2: they're talented, we've seen it wrong coach. We know the
Speaker 2: quarterbacks the most valuable player in the league and the
Speaker 2: most valuable element to a franchise. But if you don't
Speaker 2: think coaching can puncture quarterback momentum, I give you the
Speaker 2: Chargers and the Eagles. So let me get this straight
Speaker 2: on Tua. He's small, doesn't have a great arm up
Speaker 2: the sideline, not athletic, has some injuries, and now can
Speaker 2: only play in ideal conditions. So he has to have
Speaker 2: home games throughout the playoffs to be formidable. So I mean,
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you're going to get rid of him, but
Speaker 2: I think you have to look to the future and
Speaker 2: understand what he is. I mean, his record in December
Speaker 2: and January is not good. His record in September and
Speaker 2: October is good, and that's okay. You know, he is
Speaker 2: a quarterback that's more than capable. I mean, he made
Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl over Josh Allen. Now, I think the
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl's nonsense. I think awards, Oscars, Emmys. I think
Speaker 2: a lot of it's nonsense. Plaques don't make the player.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows that. But you know, I mean I think
Speaker 2: you look it too, and it's like, what one skill
Speaker 2: does he have over Josh Allen? Really, So you just
Speaker 2: have to know going forward there's limitations to what he
Speaker 2: can do, especially late in the season. You know, I
Speaker 2: think Miami was when I said they were all season.
Speaker 2: They're fun. I like watching them, I like their coach,
Speaker 2: I like Tyreek Hill. Two is fine. They're a convertible
Speaker 2: sports car. They're just not built for December and January.
Speaker 2: You know, they're just not built for this type of weather.
Speaker 2: So quarterbacks, none of them love playing in this weather.
Speaker 2: Brady liked cold weather because he said when it was slippery,
Speaker 2: defensive lineman couldn't get a pass rush. Most quarterbacks don't
Speaker 2: love it. But I mean the difference between the great
Speaker 2: ones and guys you don't give an extension to are
Speaker 2: can you overcome? Can you play in bad elements? Can
Speaker 2: you play hurt? Can you play against the great pass rush?
Speaker 2: Can you play when your left tackle is a swinging door?
Speaker 2: So I think Two is just a quarterback that when
Speaker 2: everything's lined up perfectly, he can play. But you saw
Speaker 2: c J. Stroud earlier today, bigger, stronger, better arm. Now
Speaker 2: again weather's different, but you look at c J.
Speaker 3: Stroud.
Speaker 2: There's nothing you're really missing there. Big arm, sideline, seize
Speaker 2: the field, get rid of it, can throw on the move,
Speaker 2: can move a little. There's just nothing you don't like.
Speaker 2: And with two there's not a lot I love. He
Speaker 2: is a warm weather quarterback. When things are ideal, he
Speaker 2: can put up some good numbers. With a world class
Speaker 2: receiving cores and Mike McDaniel, who's a really smart offensive coach.
Speaker 2: But things have to be right.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's interesting when I was watching to teams will tell
Speaker 2: you what they think of their players by the play calling,
Speaker 2: and so Mike McDaniel's play calling was super conservative in
Speaker 2: the second half. Well, that's telling you he doesn't trust him.
Speaker 2: So you know, you can tell when you watch Mahomes
Speaker 2: and CJ. Stroud, their coaches trust them. They trust them cognitively,
Speaker 2: they trust them physically, they trust them, you know, in
Speaker 2: crisis situations, high leverage situations. I'm watching Mike McDaniel's play calling.
Speaker 2: He didn't want to in a throw. He didn't want
Speaker 2: him to sit in the pocket his bubble screens. So
Speaker 2: that's a tell in poker, that's a tell. I thought
Speaker 2: the Rams Lions game, I felt it was going to
Speaker 2: be a very very close game. I had the Rams
Speaker 2: winning by I think one really elevated quarterback play. First
Speaker 2: of all, Matt Stafford's and Puka Nakua for a rookie
Speaker 2: is insane. I mean, you are watching Matt Stafford is
Speaker 2: making throws out there that maybe only Mahomes can do.
Speaker 2: This is a rebuilding year for Sean mcvah and the
Speaker 2: Rams and Stafford playing with guts, his hands all ripped up.
Speaker 2: What an athlete that guy is. It's just, you know,
Speaker 2: the difference in the game was pretty simple. The Lions
Speaker 2: had three long drives and got touchdowns out of them,
Speaker 2: and in the second half it was the Rams having
Speaker 2: long drives and just getting field goals out of them.
Speaker 2: And that's the difference in the game. I thought Detroit,
Speaker 2: you know, Rams pretty poor tackling first half, and you know,
Speaker 2: the Lions, physical upfront O line, punishing running backs hard
Speaker 2: to tackle, kind of pushed the Rams around. They made
Speaker 2: adjustments at half, which Sean McVay is prone to do,
Speaker 2: and they slowed Golf down. Goff was just too comfortable
Speaker 2: in the first half. And when Jared Goff is comfortable,
Speaker 2: you know, he's just a really, really good quarterback. I've
Speaker 2: seen Jared Goff comfortable, Jared Goff outdual Patrick mahone on
Speaker 2: a Monday night football game. He throws a beautiful football,
Speaker 2: but if you pressure him, he's not the same quarterback.
Speaker 2: So he didn't face any pressure in the first half.
Speaker 2: Long seventy five yard drive after seventy five yard drive
Speaker 2: and you're getting you're getting touchdowns. In the second half,
Speaker 2: he got some pressure on him. He was less effective
Speaker 2: and Stafford put on a clinic. I mean it was
Speaker 2: to too. It was uh pooka Cooper cup. It didn't matter.
Speaker 2: Everything worked, It was beautiful to watch. I just thought,
Speaker 2: you watched a really good football game. And if you
Speaker 2: go look at this weekend, here's what we saw this weekend.
Speaker 3: CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud elevated quarterback play, Stafford golf elevated quarterback play. Mahomes
Speaker 2: elevated quarterback play in terrible weather. That's the sport. Tua
Speaker 2: disappointing Flacco, too many picks. I mean, Stafford played like
Speaker 2: a winning quarterback. But you know, the Lions got the
Speaker 2: w at home, and you know, listen, I'm you know.
Speaker 2: The thing about all these games is the league is
Speaker 2: different in the postseason, right, It's more intense. And players
Speaker 2: will tell you that every time I talk to a player,
Speaker 2: it's much more intense than the playoffs. But it really
Speaker 2: does come down regular season in postseason, do you trust
Speaker 2: your coach and do you trust your quarterback? And I
Speaker 2: thought the Lions rams that is about as good a
Speaker 2: playoff game, as you're going to get two culture setters
Speaker 2: as head head coaches, and Stafford and Golf are, especially
Speaker 2: when they have time, are really really elite throwers of
Speaker 2: the football. I thought that was so much fun to watch,
Speaker 2: and I'm very happy. My wife's from Michigan, so I'm
Speaker 2: very happy for Detroit. I think the architect of this
Speaker 2: Lion's renaissance is not Dan Campbell always been effective, and
Speaker 2: it's not Jared Goff, although I like him. I think
Speaker 2: it's Brad Holmes, the executive upstairs they got from the Rams.
Speaker 2: I think they've had back to back to back great drafts.
Speaker 2: Remember Dan Campbell's first year half go back and look
Speaker 2: at the record. It wasn't very good. They have done
Speaker 2: just a remarkable job of fixing that offensive line via
Speaker 2: the draft, upgrading tight end, wide receiver, pass rushers. Detroit's
Speaker 2: got this convergence of excellent GM, really strong quarterback play,
Speaker 2: a culture setting head coach, and you jam it all together.
Speaker 2: Listen defensively, then they can give up some big plays.
Speaker 2: They're not great on the back end, but we have
Speaker 2: a salary cap era and you're paying Golf some real money,
Speaker 2: so you're not gonna have a perfect roster. You know,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna have the Niners. When you're paying Brock
Speaker 2: pretty nothing. You can retain all your stars. You know,
Speaker 2: Detroit's gonna pay Jared goffin, so when you're paying him,
Speaker 2: and his contract's up after next year, so it's gonna
Speaker 2: get bigger if you retain him. So there's just gonna
Speaker 2: be some limitations to a team when you pay your
Speaker 2: quarterback a lot. The Rams they pay Stafford, that defense
Speaker 2: on the back end is okay, right, And so Kansas
Speaker 2: City they pay them homes. Now they're receiving core for
Speaker 2: the g Rice, Travis Kelcey and a bunch of guys.
Speaker 2: So San Francisco is a really stacked roster in the NFC.
Speaker 2: But I think the Lions matchup pretty well with it.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I think the offensive line for Detroit matches up pretty
Speaker 2: well with everybody. And you know, we've talked about this before.
Speaker 2: Even Mahomes got humiliated in the Super Bowl when he
Speaker 2: didn't have his tackles. When the Lions are blocking for
Speaker 2: Jared goff and they have really twitchy, hard running, elusive,
Speaker 2: tackle breaking running backs, if Laporte is healthy, you know
Speaker 2: Detroit's offense could be a Super Bowl winning offense. All right,
Speaker 2: here we go, John Middlecoff, What a circus that was
Speaker 2: for Dallas. And you know, John, We've talked about this
Speaker 2: for years and years. I've never bought into Dallas. I
Speaker 2: always had this rule, the pretty good rule, Romo Dack
Speaker 2: They'd be pretty good. And then there was about a
Speaker 2: five week stretch this year that I bought into it.
Speaker 2: And then they went to Miami and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: it's the same old shit. And then I just I
Speaker 2: sat on the air. I was reeled in. I got fooled.
Speaker 2: But if you look in retrospect, now blown out by
Speaker 2: the Niners, blown out by Buffalo, pounded by Green Bay
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, lost to Miami, and beat Detroit on
Speaker 2: you know, a really dubious officiating moment. And in that
Speaker 2: game Dak had two picks and ten completions. And so
Speaker 2: you look at it, and my takeaway is this was
Speaker 2: just an average team, right, like a slightly better than
Speaker 2: average team.
Speaker 1: Well to me, I'm with you. I bought into them.
Speaker 1: Their downfall now three straight years is the quarterback who
Speaker 1: makes a ton of money this year and all Pro
Speaker 1: interceptions interceptions three years ago against the Niners at home
Speaker 1: through an awful pick and was not good in that game.
Speaker 1: Last year against the Niners in the playoffs. Two interceptions today,
Speaker 1: how many could he have thrown?
Speaker 3: Five?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there are some drops. Obviously, the pick
Speaker 1: six which the guy walked into the end zone was
Speaker 1: not some freaky play. And then the other thing the
Speaker 1: Cowboys kind of hung their hat on was physicality being
Speaker 1: a tough defense. What the hell was that? So if
Speaker 1: I tell you the Cowboys defense got a no show
Speaker 1: and Dak Prescott, I don't care what the final numbers
Speaker 1: look like. The game was over in the first half
Speaker 1: when he's throwing the ball to the other team and
Speaker 1: getting thoroughly outplayed by a first year starter. Just a
Speaker 1: horrendous effort by the defense at Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, when you size up a player and
Speaker 2: Jordan Love and Dak on the same field, Jordan loves
Speaker 2: more talented, he moves better, He's got more of a whip.
Speaker 2: He made a side arm throw late in the game
Speaker 2: into the end zone to Romeo Dobbs. Dak can't do that.
Speaker 2: That's just beyond Dak. That was a Mahomes level throw.
Speaker 2: A Lamar Jackson's throw and reminded me of Lamar and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, Dak can't do that. Dak doesn't put
Speaker 2: a ton of velocity on the ball. He really has
Speaker 2: to step into it a natural thrower. I mean, I
Speaker 2: joked out of college I thought he was a better
Speaker 2: version of T Bow. He had all the intangibles, but
Speaker 2: he wasn't a beautiful thrower. And when I've used Kirk
Speaker 2: Cousins as a camp he's Kirk Cousins with the Jordan brand.
Speaker 2: Is that Kirk's a more accurate thrower. Dak's a better athlete.
Speaker 2: But we always feel with Kirk he's holding you back
Speaker 2: from a super Bowl, But we somehow feel that Dak
Speaker 2: is carrying you to one. And I watched today and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, he's easily the second best quarterback on
Speaker 2: the field. That's particularly close.
Speaker 1: Well, the reason guys like Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins have to be so elite with their footwork because
Speaker 1: they can't.
Speaker 3: Afford to throw off their backfoot.
Speaker 1: The one reason why Aaron Rodgers always pushed back on
Speaker 1: some of that, like let me freelance, He'd get away
Speaker 1: with it. Brett Fahr the big arm guys, right, you
Speaker 1: see it with Mahomes and Josh Allen. They're not beholden
Speaker 1: to the quarterback feet, you know, quote unquote rules that
Speaker 1: the coaches harp on because of their talent. And you
Speaker 1: saw today Jordan Love had countless throws off his back
Speaker 1: foot that hit guys in stride way down the field,
Speaker 1: Dak Press. If the timing's a little off, he's way off.
Speaker 1: And today, I mean he was terrible calling. I mean
Speaker 1: he was. This is three straight years of just absolute
Speaker 1: no shows in these playoff games. And I know in
Speaker 1: the one playoff game he.
Speaker 3: Had that was good was against Tampa Bay, who.
Speaker 1: Was clearly got awful and was you know, headed home
Speaker 1: should not have made the playoffs last year. So against
Speaker 1: the Packers, whose defense has been really bad, I mean
Speaker 1: the number one conversations like Matt Laflor's gotta fire his
Speaker 1: buddy Joe Barry. And then for them, I know they
Speaker 1: got the touchdown late in the game, but to only
Speaker 1: have ten.
Speaker 3: I mean they had seven. How does this happen?
Speaker 1: I understand obviously Mike's the offensive play callers, a combination
Speaker 1: of them both.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's one of those things where you know,
Speaker 2: and I want to talk about this because I think
Speaker 2: McCarthy's in real trouble. I had said I'd defended McCarthy
Speaker 2: most of the season, but I said he has to
Speaker 2: beat green Bay. If he can't beat green Bay, it's
Speaker 2: a different conversation. Well, to get absolutely dominated by green
Speaker 2: Bay and Jordan Love, Now that's a different conversation from
Speaker 2: losing an overtime game on a bad officiation. Now now
Speaker 2: we have a different conversation. And I think he gets replaced.
Speaker 2: I think and dan Quinn, by the way, there went
Speaker 2: his job market outside of Seattle. That was a dubious effort.
Speaker 2: So I mean, let's just talk about it. Does Jerry
Speaker 2: have to I mean, Jerry's got to pay Dak. He
Speaker 2: loves Dak, He views Dak as some sort of elite quarterback,
Speaker 2: and is willing to pay him. So let me ask you,
Speaker 2: how good of a job is it. If the starting
Speaker 2: point is owner loves the quarterback, thinks he should be
Speaker 2: paid among the top five, aren't you working uphill? From
Speaker 2: that point forward?
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty good job because I think
Speaker 1: the guys, I mean immediately obviously Belichick and their relationship
Speaker 1: has been you know, talked about a lot. I think
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh is going to have to get a call.
Speaker 1: Those guys have the juice and the power to say, look,
Speaker 1: we're not doing this. We're not giving this guy fifty
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. You know, Mike had to lie
Speaker 1: to get the job, and the other thing that was
Speaker 1: unfold display today. Matt Laflor has the most important quality
Speaker 1: you can have in the NFL. He has the ability
Speaker 1: to develop and make a quarterback into a star. Right,
Speaker 1: I mean Dak was already pretty good when.
Speaker 3: He got there.
Speaker 1: Right, Dak had had success before Mike McCarthy, and one
Speaker 1: thing he has done is shit the bed.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: In three consecutive playoff games, two of them have been
Speaker 1: at home. I think it's worse. Like you said, last year,
Speaker 1: they lose the forty nine ers in a very tight
Speaker 1: game on the road, You hold your head high. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a bad loss. They have had two awful losses
Speaker 1: though in twenty twenty one, in this one at home,
Speaker 1: and that to me is unacceptable. I personally thought coming
Speaker 1: into the game, Mike McCarthy to keep his job was
Speaker 1: going to have to win both home games, right, because
Speaker 1: if you won this game, he'd have another home game.
Speaker 1: You can't be losing at home if you lose on
Speaker 1: the road in the NFC Championship game, where they hadn't
Speaker 1: been in twenty five years. Okay, but now I think
Speaker 1: all scigns point to Belichick, and one thing's pretty clear
Speaker 1: is Belichick has his offensive coordinator available. We talk a
Speaker 1: lot about offensive and defensive coaches. Well, the reason to
Speaker 1: me Mike Vrabel and Bill Belichick. Obviously Bill's resume speaks
Speaker 1: for itself, but what makes him truly powerful. Rabel has
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith available, who he had a lot of success with.
Speaker 1: Belichick has Josh McDaniels available, who he has all the
Speaker 1: success with, and they can allow those guys to coach
Speaker 1: the offense. So I think to me, you could argue
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel if the Belichick and Arthur Smith makes sense,
Speaker 1: as there was a toughness lacking.
Speaker 2: But again, I say, if Jerry believes Dak is it,
Speaker 2: I mean I think we have to have How.
Speaker 1: Could he believe that, now, Colin, after what he just witnessed,
Speaker 1: How could he?
Speaker 2: Again, I have been on this for years. Dak is
Speaker 2: a good B plus quarterback. Jerry views him as an
Speaker 2: as it's really interesting. This job is fascinating. It's not
Speaker 2: that Jerry runs a turnstile. But I'd almost rather Jerry
Speaker 2: be impatient than delusional on quarterback evaluation. Sure like I'd
Speaker 2: rather a guy want me to get ratings in my job.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with a little pressure. What I'm not fine
Speaker 2: with is unrealistic expectations or forcing me to work with
Speaker 2: people aren't as good as you think. Dak's just not
Speaker 2: a top ten level guy, and Jerry thinks he's a
Speaker 2: top seven guy. The internet loves, I mean, this is
Speaker 2: what they love. They forget that new information, new opinion.
Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur was calling out Jordan Love in October press conferences,
Speaker 2: soos the GM, The GM and the coach were disappointed
Speaker 2: with him. Have you ever seen an in season improvement
Speaker 2: for a quarterback? Not only is Jordan think about this,
Speaker 2: He's cheaper than Aaron Rodgers. He's now more athletic than
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. He throws the ball a lot like Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 2: you get no drama like Aaron Rodgers. And generationally, he
Speaker 2: is completely copasetic with all these receivers and tight ends.
Speaker 2: I mean, right now, Green Bay's young receiver tight end
Speaker 2: talent is the envy of virtually every team in the league.
Speaker 2: Like it's hard to wrap your brain around this. Based
Speaker 2: on what we saw in October, Jordan Love is a significant,
Speaker 2: multi faceted upgrade from Aaron Rodgers. Right, that's not debailable.
Speaker 1: Now, well, I think that you become a legend in
Speaker 1: the business of football by making moves like Ted Thompson
Speaker 1: once made. Right, Brett fav you're gone. We're going with Aaron,
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh. We got to pivot to Steve Young. When
Speaker 1: you pivot off Aaron Rodgers, who had just previously won
Speaker 1: a couple MVPs, the coach and the GM are behind it.
Speaker 1: And then by the end of the season into the playoffs,
Speaker 1: he looks like this. And as a GM you have
Speaker 1: put around the youngest offense in the league. And these guys,
Speaker 1: I mean, Watson didn't even really do anything read up
Speaker 1: until the end of the game, hadn't done. It was
Speaker 1: Dobbs making all the plays and he's really good. Think
Speaker 1: of the talent they have. We know how well they
Speaker 1: build offensive lines. I think these guys have immediately entered
Speaker 1: like Ron Wolf, Ted Thompson. We have stars running our
Speaker 1: operation because I think it was okay to question it
Speaker 1: early in the season, not because they made the wrong
Speaker 1: move getting rid of Aaron. It's like, well, it's really
Speaker 1: hard to replace that. It was rock and by the
Speaker 1: end of the season, the guy's a flat out superstar
Speaker 1: and soo's the unit around him. So to me, it's
Speaker 1: Gudikins and Lafour Like, this is why your argument on
Speaker 1: hiring offensive coaches when you get the right one. Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan has owned the Cowboys the last two years.
Speaker 3: In the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Why because he has He's comfortable playing against dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: Matt Lafour was also on that staff in Atlanta with Kyle.
Speaker 1: He was the quarterback coach you saw today. He wasn't
Speaker 1: uncomfortable going up against that defense and that coordinator and
Speaker 1: honestly embarrassed and worse than Kyle ever did the last
Speaker 1: two years.
Speaker 2: All right, Nick, Right, we try to bring him on
Speaker 2: as often as we can. So I'm gonna start with
Speaker 2: something that I think you'll like.
Speaker 3: Okay, and that's a great place to start.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, why opposed to starting with something that
Speaker 2: really pisses you off.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, let's start off on a good foot
Speaker 3: By the way, I've decided this podcast. I'm drinking wine.
Speaker 3: I've decided to go classy. I figure you're going something
Speaker 3: this hard liquor. No, by the end, you're gonna be
Speaker 3: slurre and I'm going wine.
Speaker 2: And diet coke.
Speaker 3: So oh, I'm drinking alone. Oh that was now part
Speaker 3: of the deal. Now you're really gonna have the upper
Speaker 3: hand by the end of this thing. But go ahead.
Speaker 2: So I've kind of stayed out of all Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: political opinions and vaccine. I can disagree with stuff, but
Speaker 2: I also believe Aaron has a right to an opinion.
Speaker 2: I can disagree a dissenting opinion. I don't really care.
Speaker 2: But I think there is a personality trait a couple
Speaker 2: of them with Aaron that are fairly obvious. Number One,
Speaker 2: he doesn't like authority. He struggled with his parents, his brother,
Speaker 2: Green Bay's front office. He pushes back on the media,
Speaker 2: the government. That's okay. I mean when I was a
Speaker 2: kid growing up, that was known as the liberal, a
Speaker 2: hippie in the sixties, right, So I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2: The other one is Aaron is absolutely sure he's the
Speaker 2: smartest guy in the room. And it comes across in
Speaker 2: every interview. Think about this. Forget all the government vaccine stuff,
Speaker 2: Robert Kennedy conspiracy theories. Look his football decisions. He chose
Speaker 2: an offense a defensive coach, not a successful offensive coach,
Speaker 2: because he wanted the Jets. He liked the Jets. They
Speaker 2: have one player, Garrett Wilson, that could start for the
Speaker 2: Packers one. Green Bay has the friendliest offensive salary cap
Speaker 2: for the next five years. They're not paying either tight end,
Speaker 2: five receivers, the offensive line. All five start over the Jets.
Speaker 2: Even Aaron Jones. To me, he's a bigger, stronger version
Speaker 2: of Bresee Hall. So his football decisions stink that he
Speaker 2: really really believed Jets is going to be a great fit.
Speaker 2: They have one player. If Garrett Wilson twists his ankle,
Speaker 2: they don't have a player that can start for the Packers.
Speaker 2: When you watch green Bay beat Dallas, if you don't
Speaker 2: believe it's a fluke and you believe it's players, that
Speaker 2: game wasn't competitive. Green Bay is stacked with talent.
Speaker 3: Well, so there's a lot of green Bay angles here
Speaker 3: to go to. There's a fun remind me once we
Speaker 3: to get on with the Rogers stuff to ask you
Speaker 3: a Jordan Love question. Sure that I was asked today,
Speaker 3: So all right, you sat on the front end. Don't
Speaker 3: care about Aaron Rodgers. You know, political opinion stances, vaccine status.
Speaker 3: I don't either, and he, in my opinion, uses that
Speaker 3: as a shield, meaning any criticism of him. He's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you don't like me. He is using the fact that
Speaker 3: some people criticized him about being unvaccinated. I think more
Speaker 3: people criticized him about lying about it, and then any
Speaker 3: negative attention he gets, he can be like, oh, that's
Speaker 3: not because you're actually engaging with what I've done. You
Speaker 3: hate me for this reason, which is just nonsense. Because
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson's never been more popular. I don't think he
Speaker 3: was vacated. Kirk Cousins is one of the most well
Speaker 3: liked post quarterback series. Oh yeah quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 3: I know he's not vaccinated, so it's not about that,
Speaker 3: but it is. This is someone who's you know in
Speaker 3: your life or someone that you know a family member
Speaker 3: who's like, yeah, nobody invites me around anymore because they
Speaker 3: don't want to hear the truth. And it's like, no,
Speaker 3: it's because you're an asshole. Like it. It's not our failing,
Speaker 3: it's yours. So that stuff does irritate me. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to act like it doesn't, but as you cannot
Speaker 3: in modern America not have people in your life that
Speaker 3: you love, care about, and spend time with that have
Speaker 3: different opinions on be it COVID, the upcoming election, a
Speaker 3: lot of things like nobody is that in a bubble,
Speaker 3: So we all know how to deal with people. We
Speaker 3: disagree with some of the people we love and care
Speaker 3: about the most. So that's not it. Now. You mentioned
Speaker 3: the football thing, so I think that was eager. I
Speaker 3: don't think it was purely I think the Jets are
Speaker 3: better than the Packers. I think it was he probably
Speaker 3: underrated what the Packers could be because they were mediocre
Speaker 3: last year with him, and he doesn't have the self
Speaker 3: awareness to be like, well, I was mediocre last year,
Speaker 3: like you weren't getting a plus Aaron Rodgers last year.
Speaker 3: And in fact, there was a great moment when he
Speaker 3: was on McAfee last season when I think it was
Speaker 3: after the first Lions game or something, when the Packers
Speaker 3: were before they had started winning those games, where he
Speaker 3: just kind of says, out of nowhere, he's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: and you know, my coach said that was my highest
Speaker 3: graded game of the year and a loss. And it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: this guy just can't acknowledge that he might be part
Speaker 3: of their team struggling. So I think that's the first
Speaker 3: part of it. And the second part of it is
Speaker 3: I think he thought, Okay, well, it doesn't matter what
Speaker 3: the Jets have, Once they have me, they'll be awesome.
Speaker 3: And I think that's one thing for Aaron to be that.
Speaker 3: And by the way, that might have been true a
Speaker 3: decade ago, it's not true at thirty nine in the AFC,
Speaker 3: in that comp you know what I mean, that division.
Speaker 3: But uh, it's another thing for the Jets a year
Speaker 3: into the experience. Now they are not getting the Aaron
Speaker 3: Rodgers they thought they were getting, whatever they thought they were,
Speaker 3: They're getting a player a year older, often Achilles, a
Speaker 3: year more removed from football from good football. I mean
Speaker 3: that game Jordan Love played was the best quarterbacks best
Speaker 3: quarterback play the Packers have gotten a playoff game in
Speaker 3: seven years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look it up.
Speaker 3: That was the and now he played phenomenally, So that
Speaker 3: would that's a high bar. So I think it is
Speaker 3: ego and being delusional. Like, I know this probably makes
Speaker 3: you a little uncomfortable because I often use you when
Speaker 3: I'm talking to you in analogies. But I think you know,
Speaker 3: you made a decision in your career almost a decade
Speaker 3: ago to go from a more stable place to not
Speaker 3: quite a startup whatever it is. I would I would
Speaker 3: argue that would be maybe a poor decision for seventy
Speaker 3: year old Colin cowhard to make right to be like,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm you know, I can carry and
Speaker 3: build this new thing Aaron seventy in football years. Yeah,
Speaker 3: to think I can, you know, go Lebron the Cavs
Speaker 3: the second time around. This for the Jets, No, you can't.
Speaker 3: And so I just, yeah, I think that I think
Speaker 3: the Jets are. I looked around the league. Mike Vrabel
Speaker 3: been to an AFC title game, gott in the one
Speaker 3: seed with Tennessee. Couple down years, not good enough. We
Speaker 3: got to move on. Bill Belichick obviously won six super Bowls,
Speaker 3: went to nine, also went to the playoffs with Mac
Speaker 3: Jones two down years, not good enough. Got to move on.
Speaker 3: The other coach that was just fired after two bad years.
Speaker 3: I'll remember it was. It doesn't matter, but we're talking about,
Speaker 3: you know, all these coaches moving on, and then you
Speaker 3: look at the Jets, it's like, well, our coach wins
Speaker 3: thirty percent of his games, has two career wins against
Speaker 3: the division, has been there three years. Good enough, let's
Speaker 3: stay there. You look at these coaches where it wasn't
Speaker 3: good enough, and then you look at Bob Salah who
Speaker 3: they're like, yeah, let's run that back. And it's because
Speaker 3: that's what Aaron wants. And so then you do have
Speaker 3: to ask yourself the question, it is what Aaron wants
Speaker 3: right now? The best chance at win winning or the
Speaker 3: most power possible. Do I want the best coach I
Speaker 3: can get? Or do I want a coach who knows
Speaker 3: the reason he has the job is thanks to me
Speaker 3: and therefore I run the whole operation. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I always feel in sports and in our business it's wins.
Speaker 2: Like in our business, I don't care about anything other
Speaker 2: than In radio, my revenue is great right now, highest
Speaker 2: ad rates have ever had, and in TV my ratings
Speaker 2: are my highest. The volume were crushing, Like to me,
Speaker 2: it's not about me, it's about the unit. If the
Speaker 2: unit's good, that exerts pressure on everybody around you because
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to break up winning, right. If you're winning
Speaker 2: and in your show, by the way, he's doing great,
Speaker 2: nobody wants to screw that up, right, They want to
Speaker 2: extend it. So to Aaron, it's it's it's really crazy.
Speaker 2: Did he have the forethought with all these super young
Speaker 2: players for Green Bay? He saw them, he saw Dobbs
Speaker 2: in Christian Watson. He knew they were talented. Did he
Speaker 2: not think, Jesus, if I hang around here for three years,
Speaker 2: you don't have to pay him. These are tremendous players.
Speaker 2: I mean, Aaron has to have some like.
Speaker 3: In the easier conference and and and a lot of
Speaker 3: a lot of factors there, and so I I don't
Speaker 3: think that. I don't think he thought those guys were
Speaker 3: that good because they didn't succeed last year and he can't.
Speaker 3: I don't think he has the self awareness to be like,
Speaker 3: how much of that was on me? If you operate
Speaker 3: from a place of I am always excellent, I am
Speaker 3: always producing excellence, and the results aren't excellent, then I
Speaker 3: think you're like, well, this place substance.
Speaker 2: If Brady was in New England and they would have
Speaker 2: had Dobbs, Christian Wattons Watson Jade.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but go ahead.
Speaker 2: Tom wouldn't have left. Tom was too smart. Tom left.
Speaker 2: I remember specifically on the sidelines during a New England
Speaker 2: game when he yelled at the receivers just get open.
Speaker 2: His problem was New England's last seven drafts with Belichick.
Speaker 2: Two Pro bowlers, one's a punter. Yeah, Tom would have stayed.
Speaker 3: He was frustrated.
Speaker 2: I was told he was frustrated for three years before
Speaker 2: he left. The idea And by the way, where did Shoes,
Speaker 2: Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Bruce Arians, where did Stafford, Juice McVeigh,
Speaker 2: Cooper Cup Andrew Whitworth. Aaron literally left this bevy of
Speaker 2: super talented kids. Saw them knew by the way in
Speaker 2: the in the following draft they were gonna go heavy
Speaker 2: tight end, and it was all you had to do
Speaker 2: was go to one mock draft. It was the best
Speaker 2: tight end class when he was leaving. Like in Green Bay,
Speaker 2: they drafted two I think, but in the second round
Speaker 2: or third. So the takeaway is, did Aaron ever get
Speaker 2: out of himself and go this is all about having
Speaker 2: the right pieces. When Peyton mann in chose Denver, go
Speaker 2: look at their pieces. They're a line their receiver, they're
Speaker 2: tight end. It is remarkable that he didn't look at
Speaker 2: all that Green Bay talent that was on display Sunday,
Speaker 2: now some of it hadn't been drafted yet and go, God,
Speaker 2: look how good they are. Now what are they going
Speaker 2: to be in a year.
Speaker 3: If you were advising Belichick of any of the jobs
Speaker 3: open or jobs that could be open, where would you
Speaker 3: tell him to go?
Speaker 2: I would say, listen, Bill, you've shown an ability to
Speaker 2: win rings with an elite quarterback and no ability to
Speaker 2: win with an average quarterback. One job has a really
Speaker 2: talented quarterback. The Chargers Jalen Hurts is good. Maybe a
Speaker 2: bit overstated due to the Shiken, Shansdyke and Lincoln Riley connection.
Speaker 2: That would be second, but there is no disputing Bill
Speaker 2: has shown no proclivity, no ability to draft and develop
Speaker 2: well or win without a quarterback. So there's no reason
Speaker 2: to believe he can address that if you don't have it.
Speaker 3: So the Church's why I wouldn't go to Atlanta. No,
Speaker 3: that's why I think the Atlanta thing's crazy. Or people
Speaker 3: have talked about Washington. Now I understand Washington is the
Speaker 3: number two pick, but that player's got to get developed, like,
Speaker 3: that's why. Now. The other thing is this that I
Speaker 3: find interesting and people think it's unfair, but I don't
Speaker 3: think it's unfair. And maybe Bill wouldn't do this. This
Speaker 3: is really just a exercise, which is you look around
Speaker 3: the league and I like it. Like I'm wondering what team,
Speaker 3: what teams would fire their coach if Bill called him
Speaker 3: and said, that's the job. I want to go to
Speaker 3: your team. I know you have like so that you
Speaker 3: know right now, technically Philly as a coach. I don't
Speaker 3: know if they will much longer. I certainly if I
Speaker 3: were Jeffrey Lori and I knew Belichick will take this job. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I will fire Nick Sirianni, but that's almost too easy
Speaker 3: because he's on the hot seat either way.
Speaker 2: You know, not as many as you think, because I
Speaker 2: believe I have believed this for a long time. Less
Speaker 2: than half of the owners want to win first, less
Speaker 2: than half, it may be less than a third. What
Speaker 2: they want is profits and control. The Spanos families had opportunities,
Speaker 2: including this year, to seceede some control to Jim Harboys
Speaker 2: the best candidate. Easily. It's not, I'm told in the
Speaker 2: building unanimous. So you know, in the league, top ten quarterback,
Speaker 2: elite coach, you get to conference championships, You've got one.
Speaker 2: The other wants the job. So the only reason not
Speaker 2: to choose that would be profits and control. Belichick will
Speaker 2: force you and Harbaugh to have less control. And these
Speaker 2: owners that is number one. Billionaires control people, their families,
Speaker 2: their businesses, their employees. They don't like loss of controls.
Speaker 2: Wall Street. Wall Street is not just about earnings. Wall
Speaker 2: Street is about the unknown. It plummets on unknowns. Often
Speaker 2: a company will come out and say, we are chopping
Speaker 2: ten thousand jobs to stop those. Okay, they're gonna have
Speaker 2: a tighter right, that's bad news. No, it's great news.
Speaker 2: It's known. Owners do not relinquish power. There's only a
Speaker 2: handful that would go all call Reinhower. Jerry won't. Jerry
Speaker 2: had Jimmy and Bill.
Speaker 3: He let him both run. So so I'm gonna this
Speaker 3: is on your the on your TV show today, I
Speaker 3: made up a fake trade. Essentially, I'm now doing the
Speaker 3: coaching version of it, which is there's two AFC jobs
Speaker 3: that came to mind that I think are intriguing. If
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick's agent called up the owner of the Bengals
Speaker 3: and said Bill, you know, would take that job if
Speaker 3: it were offered to him. Would you, if you were
Speaker 3: the owner of the Bengals, fire Zach Taylor to hire
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, all right. Second one, Bill Belichick's agent calls up,
Speaker 3: Shad Khan says, Bill Belichick would like to coach Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3: Would you fire Doug Peterson to hire Bill Belichick. I'd
Speaker 3: think about that one because I thought this year was weird.
Speaker 3: Can't figure out why you get bad and it's not personnel.
Speaker 3: I think I'd probably make the move there. It was
Speaker 3: a weird year for that talented team. And listen, the
Speaker 3: easy answer is Trevor got hurt. But you still shouldn't
Speaker 3: go from eight and three to out of the playoffs
Speaker 3: entirely that So I'm not like advocating Belichick go like,
Speaker 3: you know, that would be a good revenge for that
Speaker 3: Eagle super Bowl. Like, hey, Dougie, guess what I'm sniping
Speaker 3: your job? But yeah, if I were Bill, my job's
Speaker 3: list would be I would go down. I would make
Speaker 3: my own list of who are the best quarterbacks in
Speaker 3: the NFL, and I'd be like, Okay, Mahomes won, Well,
Speaker 3: that job's no, you know, they're not firing any that's
Speaker 3: not available, and go down and then see obviously the
Speaker 3: open one is justin Herbert, but it doesn't seem like
Speaker 3: that's gonna happen. So then I would try to find
Speaker 3: a spot where either. And I don't think it's a
Speaker 3: weird thing because nobody thinks this is like unfair with players.
Speaker 3: So like if you have a good NBA player who's
Speaker 3: been a you know, you have no reason to trade
Speaker 3: or whatever, and then a star is like, I want
Speaker 3: to go to that team. Then that guy gets traded,
Speaker 3: and nobody's like, oh, that's that's unfair. Maybe it's because
Speaker 3: it's firing, but I wouldn't think it was outrageous for
Speaker 3: a coach who had no reason to fire their their
Speaker 3: own coach fire their coach because Bill Belichick became available
Speaker 3: and they thought they were better. Like I think that
Speaker 3: happens in life. It's like your job was safe, but
Speaker 3: this super nova talent came into the world or into
Speaker 3: our orbit, and so your job is no longer safe.
Speaker 2: Listen, we know Jimmy Sexton controls college football fans have
Speaker 2: the overwhelming number of fans have no idea. So I'll
Speaker 2: give you an example. So Kaylin de Boor got hired
Speaker 2: by from Washington.
Speaker 3: Somehow knew Jedfish was going to get the job.
Speaker 2: Well, I knew Jedfish was getting Washington. In fact, I
Speaker 2: got me. Yeah, yeah, I knew Saturday night. But to
Speaker 2: protect Jed because it wasn't finalized and protect my source,
Speaker 2: I couldn't report it. So I'd rather have Bruce Feldman
Speaker 2: and those guys. I don't make my money on breaking
Speaker 2: college football. Kaylin de Boor, I've known Jed for a while.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to screw up his contract. And you know,
Speaker 2: had he told Arizona okay got so Kaylen de Boor
Speaker 2: I was told basically said, okay, Jimmy Sexton, I'll let
Speaker 2: you be my agent, but I want the Bama job.
Speaker 2: And Jimmy Sexton's like, I'll get in the top two.
Speaker 2: And so he knew Kaylen de bor was going to
Speaker 2: beat So Kaylen de Boor I knew on Wednesday was
Speaker 2: going to be a top two candidate. He didn't guarantee
Speaker 2: him the job, but in order to wrap him, he
Speaker 2: was going to get hit. And Sark Alabama knew greg
Speaker 2: byrn knew that Sark wasn't going to take the job.
Speaker 2: Sark loves, his wife loves. Often they weren't leaving. They
Speaker 2: called Sark is almost a perfunctory professional thank you.
Speaker 3: For what you've given us, Yeah, and get him a
Speaker 3: raised in Texas. That Alabama job commentation was great for
Speaker 3: a lot of people's economies. Everybody who's out here are
Speaker 3: getting raises right right, right.
Speaker 2: So it was one of these sort of we're gonna
Speaker 2: call Sark, but it wasn't. He was never ever. They
Speaker 2: never thought they were going to get Sark. So it
Speaker 2: was a prime example of So to your point is
Speaker 2: that this Jimmy Sexton is operating on multiple levels. He
Speaker 2: is promising interviews and opportunities. He didn't say, Kaylen, you're
Speaker 2: going to get the Bama job. He goes, I'm going
Speaker 2: to get you in the running for it. And so
Speaker 2: this idea that he was the fourth guide, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: Caleb de Boor signed with Jimmy, I want to be
Speaker 2: in the running for that. And so the idea that
Speaker 2: agents don't do that. I've had an agent forever you have.
Speaker 2: We're talking eighteen months out. So this kind of Belichick's
Speaker 2: agent is calling and doing that.
Speaker 3: Calling and seeing what jobs would come open if you
Speaker 3: knew he wanted the job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Brady would hit the same Brady picked
Speaker 2: his team. Bill probably has three teams he's interested in.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and by the way, I don't maybe listen,
Speaker 3: maybe he'll go to Atlanta and it'll it'll be weird.
Speaker 3: Maybe that'll happen. I thought it was really odd Atlanta
Speaker 3: tweeting out We've just finished our interview with Bill Belichick. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it just I don't know Bill Belichick, but that seems
Speaker 3: like the type of thing that would make him not
Speaker 3: want to coach your team.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I almost wondered if Bill's agent asked for that.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it. Oh for Hey, could you make
Speaker 2: sure Bill wants it out there that people are interested?
Speaker 3: Right? Sure? That makes more sense, Yeah, because if he did.
Speaker 3: If he did, I would almost because what I thought
Speaker 3: was that it was a stress test for the organization,
Speaker 3: like I'll go meet with you guys because maybe I
Speaker 3: am interested and I want to see if it leaks,
Speaker 3: and you know what I mean. And then saw that
Speaker 3: it was everywhere. What you're saying actually makes probably more sense.
Speaker 2: Bill needs to be viewed as viable when you get
Speaker 2: to be seventy Pete Carroll when he stepped on the
Speaker 2: podium losing the Seattle job, he was like, my energy's great.
Speaker 2: He was talking to every other GM in the league,
Speaker 2: every other owner. Hey, it's not my energy. I'm going
Speaker 2: on thousand. While he started talking really fast, he was
Speaker 2: selling himself. Bill wants it to be known I'm interested
Speaker 2: and teams are interested in me, and his agent wants
Speaker 2: that out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that that makes sense. So if you had
Speaker 3: to bet right now, where would you say, and maybe
Speaker 3: you don't want to say, where do you think he goes?
Speaker 2: I think Philadelphia and Washington. He's got a big he's
Speaker 2: got multiple homes in Nantucket. He's got a big spread.
Speaker 2: So he wants to be a private jet flight there.
Speaker 2: You know he doesn't. Bill's not going to go He's
Speaker 2: gonna do Washington or Philadelphia. He not going west. It
Speaker 2: just doesn't He doesn't have any connections there. And you know,
Speaker 2: by the way, if he brings Josh McDaniel, Josh McDaniels Northeast,
Speaker 2: he Josh has had no success out West, Vegas, Denver.
Speaker 2: He's gonna come back east.
Speaker 3: I think Philadelphia is the answer. Yeah, I think Philadelphia
Speaker 3: is the answer. You stay in the Northeast, you stay
Speaker 3: in a prime media market. You have a talented roster.
Speaker 3: It's listen. I think the talent on the roster is
Speaker 3: a little overrated, but what's not overrated is the d
Speaker 3: line talent. So you know, Belichick can coach up the secondary,
Speaker 3: he can create a secondary if there's anything out of
Speaker 3: thin air. And even if Jalen is, you know, a
Speaker 3: flawed quarterback, He's the best quarterback that Belichick's had in
Speaker 3: a half decade. You know what I mean. I mean,
Speaker 3: like you go from Mac Jones and Bailey Zappy to
Speaker 3: jail and hurts. You feel like you're playing a different
Speaker 3: fucking sport. So that there is real there's real value there.
Speaker 3: The volume