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Speaker 1: job right now, if you like the people you work with,

427
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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's weird. Right now A lot of

428
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: us are working from home. But if your job dictate

429
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 1: that you come into work, and most of us you know,

430
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: in our life have done that right. Going to work.

431
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: It's a great part about like high school and college,

432
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 1: you get to be around your friends. So you just

433
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,239
Speaker 1: you get to go to school around your friends. Then

434
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Speaker 1: you get out of that and you realize God's it's

435
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: on how our life works. You gotta go work with

436
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 1: people that you might not like, but people that get

437
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: to work around other people that they like. I think

438
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: the cults do a good job that when you go

439
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 1: when they and again I get they get to control

440
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: the message. But it seems like in their draft videos

441
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: and I've watched all their YouTube shows the last couple

442
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: of years, they're scouting staff really likes each other. I

443
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 1: have friends that are on scouting staffs that aren't always

444
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: on the same page. It's not as fun. I'm talking

445
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: to the guys with the chiefs now it helps winning.

446
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: They really like working with each other, working for beats,

447
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: working around the other guys like they enjoy going to work.

448
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: Now in sports, you know you want to be it's

449
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: easier to go to work. Part of winning culture. I

450
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: know a lot of people that work for the Patriots

451
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: over the last like twelve years they've all left. I'm

452
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: not talking coach. I'm talking they don't. It's not an

453
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: enjoyable place to work now. I listen, He's made a

454
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Speaker 1: lot of people a lot of money. I'm not trying

455
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: to act like I just Belichick is not exactly you know,

456
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: a lot of fun where you hear some of these

457
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: stories about I know people that work for John Schneider

458
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: love him. People that work for like Mickey Loois and

459
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: the Saints, they love it. And I'm just speaking from

460
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: a scouting perspective. Obviously coaching is a little different. But

461
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: my point is it's so different as a player. If

462
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Speaker 1: you enjoy going into work, being around your head coach,

463
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: being around your assistant coaches in the off season when

464
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: you're just doing walkthroughs, it's very very beneficial, especially to

465
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: head into training camp, because you have to be on

466
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: the same page because ultimately, football is the most tactical

467
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 1: of all the games. Right There is a brand new

468
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: play call on offense and defense every single play of

469
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: the game, every single one. There is someone dictating a

470
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: play and someone reacting to the play, both people trying

471
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: to guess what the other team is gonna do. You know,

472
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Speaker 1: and not be prepared for or not be ready for,

473
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Speaker 1: or be out of position. And you build that up

474
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: the fundamentals of the sport, the fundamentals of the scheme

475
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 1: on your individual team, the fundamentals of your teammates. You know,

476
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Speaker 1: if I'm the right guard, my right tackle on this

477
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: play tends to do this, so I know to overcompensate here.

478
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Speaker 1: If I'm the slot wide receiver in my you know,

479
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,719
Speaker 1: the outside wide receiver tends to break this route off

480
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: a little bit farther, so I know when I on

481
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Speaker 1: the certain play to break it off inside, I should

482
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: cheat at a yard to give the proper spacing. That

483
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: type ship matters in football. There's a reason the Patriots

484
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: kicked everyone's asked for twenty years. Their team chemistry was

485
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: always fantastic. Say it all the time, The chemistry they

486
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Speaker 1: had of their second you know, uh, the the teams

487
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Speaker 1: that like fourteen, sixteen, eighteen, whatever the dates are, it

488
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: was really good. Mccordy's high towers, Gronks, Edelman, Tom the

489
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Speaker 1: offensive linemen, Uh Lewis, the running back. It matters. It

490
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: just does. And this time of year, while it's not

491
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's pretty easy for NFL standards and it

492
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: obviously it's never been easier given that what's going around

493
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: the NFL, that this type of stuff that we won't notice.

494
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: But the guys on the team and the coaches, if

495
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: your team is good in the fall, they'll go. You know,

496
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: we really developed pretty good chemistry in the offseason. I

497
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: really ended up liking a lot of the guys on

498
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Speaker 1: my team. Helps you work harder. When when you like people,

499
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Speaker 1: you're more likely to, you know, exert a little more effort,

500
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Speaker 1: to give a little more maybe come in an hour earlier,

501
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: study a little more film. When that person to the

502
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: left of you, you know, like you. Most people are

503
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: not Larry Fitzgerald. They give you a plus effort. Whether

504
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: the team wins fourteen games or three games. That's not

505
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: the majority of the NFL. That's not the majority of

506
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: human beings. Most people want to be around people they like,

507
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: and you know, obviously, the more success you have are

508
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: going to be more likely to work harder. And that's

509
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: where teams, I think, separate themselves at this time of year. Okay,

510
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: wanted to just go a little rapid fire a couple

511
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: of quick stories that are just one I saw and

512
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: obviously one is one of the bigger stories in the NFL.

513
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: As I'm recording this, Julio Jones has not been traded.

514
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: And this story is pretty weird. Uh. The more I

515
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: think about it, the more I wonder if Atlanta and

516
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: the new general managers a little over his head on

517
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: this one, because he he inherited the financial problem that

518
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: was Thomas de Metrof, that was the previous administration. That

519
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: is not his doing to have all these bad contracts

520
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: to be in, you know, hindered by the cap that

521
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: I cannot put that. They have no responsibility for that situation.

522
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: And I don't even blame Demitrof for paying Mattie Ice

523
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: and paying Julio Jones the premium in which he paid him.

524
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: They were trying to win, trying to keep getting back

525
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. I get it. So he inherited this problem.

526
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Speaker 1: And when you're a first time general manager, I say

527
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: it all the time that no one prepares you for

528
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: these situations. There's not GM school. You just kind of

529
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: go through the experiences. Obviously he was Mickey Loomis right,

530
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: and guy, you get to experience stuff. But there's a

531
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: big difference. And I say it all the time, making

532
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: suggestions making decisions right, it's a lot easier, and most

533
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: of us we make suggestions your whole life. When you

534
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: have to make decisions, it's hard, it's difficult, it's not

535
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: easy to do. But the Julio situation is clearly a

536
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: buyer's market because I would not if and listen, I

537
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 1: don't have all the information just from whatever, and if

538
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: I could talk to this guy to ask him this,

539
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: why did you not tell teams we ain't trading him,

540
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: because not like you traded him back when teams had

541
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: cap space, you were gonna wait till June one. Anyway,

542
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: to me, the way to play it would have been,

543
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: we ain't trading him. We're gonna try to be we're

544
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: gonna try to win this year and the elite on offense, Julio, Pitts, Ridley,

545
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 1: Mattie Ice. It's on. And then come tomorrow, if you're

546
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: listening to this on Tuesday, June one, change course. Actually

547
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: we've decided to go a different course. We're open for business.

548
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: Then you could have got and we're gonna give you

549
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: twenty four hours bidding process. Instead they've let it simmer

550
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: out there for weeks. On end, Julio, it felt like

551
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: it had enough orchestrates. This thing with Shannon Sharpe call

552
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: it on TV makes a mockery the whole situation. I

553
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: don't think he's played this very well because these teams

554
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: now like they're kind of in a pinch. They need

555
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: to trade him for the books. Uh, they're desperate to

556
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: get a number, but we all know that, like, no

557
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: one's gonna trade a first more than likely if they do,

558
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: then this whole everything I just said is moronic. But

559
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: I would say this if I had a thousand dollars

560
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: right now and you said, do they get a first

561
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: or do they not sniff it first? I'd say they

562
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: ain't sniffing the first. I think there is no chance

563
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: they get a first round pick for Julio Jones. Most

564
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: guys that get traded for first round picks are in

565
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: their mid twenties. Who those thirty two? They ain't the

566
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: way the league works. But trying to do this like

567
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: play different teams off each other, it ain't working because

568
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: to me, they've let it. You can't let a situation

569
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: like this just linger forever and expect to capitalize on

570
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: your return. To me with a guy like Julio once

571
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: to go oh, is he available to say no? Say no,

572
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: say no, say no, say no. And then all of

573
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: a sudden June one, Hey, guys, anyone want him twenty

574
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: four hours? Take it or leave it. If not, we're

575
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: prepared to play even if that's a lie, but just

576
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: letting it be out there forever. Like I I don't

577
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: understand the tactic behind that, And I know there was

578
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: a rap Sheet tweet a while back that said that

579
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: Julio had requested to trade. My spiky senses would say

580
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: the Falcons would want that out there because they don't

581
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: want to look like idiots, like, why are you really

582
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: trading Julio Jones? He's one of your best players. Well

583
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: he wants out. That fells very whenever you see and listen.

584
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: I love after he came on pot with me and guy,

585
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: I've known him for a long time. He's cool. I

586
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: don't really know rap Sheet, but I've met him a

587
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: couple of times, like Super Bowls. He's been cool to me.

588
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: Those guys that there's an agenda behind every league unless

589
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: there's just a trade right or signing. Any leak of

590
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: this this, there's always an angle there, there's always a reason.

591
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: It's it's someone's prerogative to get that out to dictate narrative,

592
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: mainly with the fans, because no one wants to be

593
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: called an idiot. So that this situation is. I don't

594
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: know if the Falcons have played this perfectly, and like

595
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: I said, I don't expect them to the first time

596
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: general manager. It's hard. You don't get prepared for this,

597
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: John Snyder, Mickey Loomis, Rick Spielman, Like Rick Spielman, Boom,

598
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: Dick's gone. They get picked twenty two, Wham bam boom.

599
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: It's pretty easy, right, John Snyder, boom Jamal Adams on

600
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: the team. You just do a move. You don't keep

601
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: like either piss or getting off the pot, like let's

602
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: figure something out here, like what are we doing. Here's

603
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: another thing that stood out to me, Albert Brier wrote,

604
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: and I didn't know this because I'm not taking role.

605
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: We actually had a good conversation in Arizona. Like I

606
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: remember some of my classes at cal Pauly took a

607
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: role and I had a buddy that played baseball. We

608
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: actually another one of his buddies medicine Arizona professional athletes.

609
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: This guy playing the bigs for a little bit wasn't

610
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: the minor leagues for like, you know, almost a decade.

611
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: Played in Japan for a year against Otani. He's he

612
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: was a power hitter and his first hit big league

613
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: hit home runoff bum Gardner. Everywhere we went in Arizona.

614
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: Biggest human being sometimes you're around professional athlete, and he

615
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: was like, God, it am I the same species as

616
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: this guy. It's just why didn't I get these genetics?

617
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: Like mom, dad, what are we doing here? You know,

618
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: it's it's just it sucks. They're just bigger than every human.

619
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, wonder they're Barrett Sports. You know that

620
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: if I swing a bat and he swings a bat,

621
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: that ball is gonna go longer off his bat than

622
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: my bat. But I saw Kyler Murray Albert Rier wrote,

623
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: has not been at O T s Kyler. If Aaron

624
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: Rodgers wants to win the m v P and get

625
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: mad at Goudikins and not show up, if Tom Brady

626
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: does not want to show up to Ots, I get it. Bro.

627
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: You've played two seasons. You kind of sniffed the playoffs

628
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: last year, but not really. Let's face it, you weren't

629
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: that good the second half of the season, Like I'm sorry,

630
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: and listen, I've been pretty critical of the Arizona administration. Uh,

631
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, Comes had his moments, right, good picks, bad picks.

632
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: I mean he took Rosen one year, the boom had

633
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: a pivot, he had a one and done coach, like

634
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: he said, he said, some weird things happen, right, Uh, Cliff,

635
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a little over his head. But I

636
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: was always told this by guys that went through Texas Tech.

637
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: They love Cliff Kingsbury, and I'll never forget watching ESPN

638
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: special on him. He's a Marie Means kid. He's at

639
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: work at the crack of dawn. Like I think you

640
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: see him and you're like, yeah, this good looking guys

641
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: just dating babe. Nobody's partying all the time. I've heard

642
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: that is not Kingsbury's deal. He's a grinder, right, and

643
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: Come has been scouting in the league for twenty years.

644
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is not at O t s Like that's

645
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: pretty embarrassing. Like, bro, they say the big leagues, this

646
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: is the NFL. You haven't proven anything. You're not there.

647
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: Like quarterbacks, I bet if we went around quarterbacks under

648
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: thirty years old, Patrick Mahomes not showing up. Of course

649
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: not he's there, Josh Allen, No, of course he's taken

650
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: snaps Kyla Murray, you're not an O t A S

651
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: like listen, Larry Fitzgerald. I think at Pebble Beach last

652
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: year someone asked him, like, what's Kyler Murray's deal? And

653
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: he said a comment it wasn't good, and within twenty

654
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: four hours that video was taken down. But I've never

655
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: forgotten that, and I've heard some things. It's not I

656
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: don't have it, you know, in certain so I'm not

657
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: gonna say it here. You guys know I don't give

658
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: a shit. I'm not I don't care about offending anybody.

659
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: But to me, this is validating some of the things

660
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: I've heard. Not at O T as you ain't in

661
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: year seven and have eight playoff victories on your pelts

662
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: on the wall. You know what, if I'm Kyle Shanahan,

663
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: if I'm Pete Carroll, and if I'm um Sean McVeigh, like,

664
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not gonna say I'm out on

665
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: this guy because you have you've been listening before a while.

666
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: I've never disputed his talent. I think his talent is

667
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: immense especially given his size. Freak show. But this is

668
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: not what I wanted on my quarterback. Not showing up

669
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: at O T S for your fucking team plays in

670
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: Scott's tale. I was just there to place the paradise.

671
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: I get your from Dallas. You're rich, take a private jet,

672
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: go back and forth. I mean, what are we doing that?

673
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: That's bad design bats I got that guy red flagged

674
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: like last year, the year that you should have been

675
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: a lock to go to the playoffs, and I gave

676
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: Cliff a lot of heat last year. One of the issues, though,

677
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: is I think the Thursday night game against Seattle, Kyler,

678
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: because the one knock on him is his size. He's

679
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 1: tiny for NFL standards, He's easily the smallest starting quarterback

680
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: in the NFL, got tossed to the ground. I think

681
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: of Seattle defensive lineman fell on him. It was never

682
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: the same the rest of the season. You're You're not

683
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: gonna work on your craft with your teammates. You're not.

684
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: This is an individual sport. You're the leader of the team.

685
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: You're the quarterback. That's your job. Tom doesn't have to

686
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: show up dot S. I don't know, because he's Tom

687
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: freaking Brady Aaron Rodgers wants Gudikins fired. That's why he's

688
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: not showing up. You ain't those guys, And guess what,

689
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: I don't think you're ever gonna be. And if this

690
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: is your attitude, if this is your mindset, and you

691
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: could be like middle Coffic Aimes changing. Yeah, not Momes

692
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: is there. So I just like, if whatever industry you're in,

693
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: whoever is better than you, you should just do what

694
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: that guy's doing, right. You shouldn't like I'm just I'm

695
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 1: an outlier. I'm not taking I'm doing it my way. Well,

696
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: you're working champ, so you might want to. Let's see

697
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: that guy Momes. I'd follow his lead. That'd be the

698
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: guy that Lamar Jackson. A practice is Lamar Jackson and

699
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: practice Josh Allen to practice is my homes at practice.

700
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: We don't even count the old guys. Just let's just

701
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: stick with the young crew, because if those guys are

702
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: a practice and you're not, you got problems. Check out

703
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: the Middlecoff mail bag Jacob at John Middlecoff Instagram, d

704
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: MS wide Open, get you here on the show. What's Up? John?

705
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: I've been listening to you for over a year now,

706
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: after the first week of O T A S. What's

707
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: your opinion of Adrian Clem and the verities throughout the

708
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: Steelers offensive line? Do you see Zach Banner actually being

709
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: an active contributor to the old line. Where do you

710
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: think Kendrick Green will grow into a leader among this

711
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: old line in his rookie year. Like I said, I'd

712
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: be lying if I can break down offensive line play,

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00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: I will say this for Clem. I remember when Jim

714
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: Mora got hired at U c l A. He brought Clem.

715
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: I think he was at s m U at the time,

716
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: and this guy was a big part of his staff.

717
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: Like Jim Mora failed at U c l A because

718
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: he couldn't coach. They recruited and he identified talent and

719
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: Clem was his number one recruiter. This guy could identify talent.

720
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Speaker 1: And when I saw what's funny about you bringing up

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00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: his name is? I saw on something on one of

722
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: my social media's something about this guy and I was like,

723
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was the offensive line coach. I

724
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: kind of wondered because I followed him on for Twitter

725
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: forever when he was with Mora at U c l A.

726
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: And I was like he just kind of fell off

727
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: to face the earth. Now he got in trouble with recruiting.

728
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: I don't know something shady happened, so he had to

729
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: go to the pros because I think something weird happened.

730
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: People listening probably know more about it than me. I

731
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: just remember he wasn't coaching college anymore, and then I

732
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: googled him weird like a month ago, and he had

733
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: been the assistant offensive line coach for the Steelers until

734
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: last year, and they elevated him once they fired their

735
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: offensive line coach. I think this guy is pretty good. Now.

736
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about your unit. Obviously moving away

737
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: from Villa in Aueva banner and a major injury last year.

738
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: I think the unit has been pretty good the last

739
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: couple of years. Right, you had Nagi Harris. Who's gonna

740
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: make your offensive line look better. I know there are

741
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: people that are down on Nagi Harris. I think Nota

742
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: is gonna be a stud. I think Naji is gonna

743
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: be If I was an NFL team, I would Nagi

744
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: beat start for me any day of the week. When

745
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: you factoring the wide receivers, if they just Ben just

746
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: gotta get. Ben has to play like Tom Brady did

747
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: with the Patriots. Get brid of the ball fast like Ben.

748
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: That's how you get the play. You're no longer keeping

749
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: these plays alive with with your legs. You can't move

750
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: like that. Hand theball off the nagi and throw to

751
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: your wide receivers. So I think Clem I always had

752
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: a lot of respect from from the outside. I thought

753
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: he was good question for the pod, longtime listener. As

754
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: a Diard Titans fan, it's been hard to ignore a J.

755
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: Brown and the rest of the team social media courting

756
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: of Julio Jones, while that wide receiver duo and Derrick

757
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: Henry would be near unstoppable from a front office perspective,

758
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear your thoughts on a team has

759
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: to weigh in order to pull the trigger. After all,

760
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: he's expensive two year old. If I'm gonna get Julio Jones,

761
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: I view myself as a player away given that I

762
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: probably have to give a good second round pick, right,

763
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: or maybe even like a second and a fourth. I

764
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: don't think the Titans are a player away now. I don't.

765
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Speaker 1: I don't think in life, as in being a GM,

766
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: you can ever go wrong being aggressive right, because no

767
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: matter what decision you're gonna make, whether it's trading for

768
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: a player, whether it's something in business, You're not always

769
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: going to be right, and you know a decent amount

770
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: of your decisions are not gonna work out. But in

771
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: my opinion, if you lean on the side of pedal

772
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: to the metal, taking big swings more often than not,

773
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna come out on top. Because I think it's very,

774
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: very easy, and I say it all the time. You

775
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 1: can talk yourself out of Julio Jones. He's thirty two.

776
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: He makes fifteen million, well, fifteen million dollars. Mark Cooper

777
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: makes twenty. I'll take Julio over Romari every day of

778
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: the week and ten times on Sunday. And I like Amri,

779
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: but he ain't Julio, even at thirty two. Now, the

780
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: thing is, do I like trading premium picks for guys

781
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: in their thirties? Probably not that That's where I have

782
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: my apprehension. If I was the Colts or I was

783
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: the Packers, I would have no hesitation if I get

784
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: If I was the Rams and get him for second

785
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: round pick, no hesitation. I'm all in Seattle. Same thing.

786
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: If I'm the Titans, like am I win the Super Bowl.

787
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: Julio Jones that am I a player? Wet? Where am

788
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: I do? I want to think like that? I don't know.

789
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: It's tough now. I also think, like you said, I

790
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: get Julio with a J we're rolling in. We look

791
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: like we got Lebron and Anthony Davis. Like, who's who's

792
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: shutting down those two guys with the most productive running

793
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: back in the league. Because my my quarterback, it's not

794
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, right, He's not Aaron Rodgers, so he can't

795
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: overcome like he's He's a better version Alex Smith. And

796
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: the key with Alex is surrounding him with really good talent.

797
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: The other thing is you have a first year coordinator.

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00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: I guess he was a coordinator for a year with

799
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: the Raiders, but last time he was a coordinator was terrible.

800
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: Todd Downing was a disaster. So I think it's the age.

801
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: I think it's just the mindset on your team. Like,

802
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: if we get Julio, are we gonna go to the

803
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: a f C Champion Game? If I feel pretty confident

804
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: about that? And I like, because our defense hasn't been

805
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: very good, can we just be great offense and be

806
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: the middle of the road defense. Also, I have a

807
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: defensive head coach, so it's complicated. Hey, John, big fan

808
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: of the show? What I like? Uh? I like to

809
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: follow ownership battles and feuds behind the scenes. The point is,

810
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: how can Cronkey fork over six billion dollars of his

811
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: own cash and the franchise only be worth four billion?

812
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: How does that fly with him? Where is there another

813
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: feud where he'll be asking more of owners for additional

814
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: revenue sharing? Plus, Spanos got off with the leasing of

815
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: the stadium pretty easily if you ask me, and they're

816
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: struggling to sell. PSLs also pays a dollar and rent.

817
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about it. Since you're in California area,

818
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: what are you hearing seeing? I'll be listening. Here's the

819
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: thing one he had. No, I don't think he realized

820
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: he was gonna cost that much, right. I think even

821
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: if you if you factor in California, the costs are

822
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: always higher out here. The labor issues. They just always

823
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: fighting the city for bullshit, right in La and San Francisco.

824
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: That you know you're gonna whatever they give you. Right

825
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: if they give you a three million dollar bill, you

826
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 1: probably know it's gonna be four so six is probably

827
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: a lot. Here's where he's gonna win, though, is he

828
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: owns the stadium well, Sofi Stadium in l a. Every

829
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: and I've seen it with Jed, and he's gonna get

830
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: way more of them. Every single act that matters is

831
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: gonna come through. Every single concert that matters. If you

832
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: start a concert, you're going to Sofi Stadium in Los Angeles.

833
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: One million percent. He owns that. I remember Don Smilinsky,

834
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: who was the president of the Eagles at the time.

835
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: I think he was like the number two guy. But

836
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: he used to tell me because he used to work

837
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: out in the morning, and I would not work out

838
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: in the more. I would just I would sleep in

839
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: as late as possible. During the season you get skips retired,

840
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: and I would just wake up because you know, I

841
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: usually started work between like six thirty and seven. Long days.

842
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: You get home at ten, you're back at six thirty

843
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: or seven. I would wake up and just my basketball

844
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: shorts and tea shirt, drive right to the facility and

845
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: just shower and change there. And Smilinsky, who was just

846
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: a grinder now he got to leave work a little

847
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: earlier than me. Uh would be in there finishing his workout,

848
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: so we'd be showering and changing at the same time.

849
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: I remember picking his brain because one cool thing there

850
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: is I got to go to concerts, So Kenny Chestney,

851
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: when I was there, I might have saw you two.

852
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: I definitely saw three or four concerts there, and I

853
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: was picking his brain. I think Taylor Swift had just

854
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: played there. I didn't go to see that though I'm

855
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: not Auntie Taylor Swift. I would go see her. And

856
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: I asked him like, what are these type things for

857
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: for the for the Eagles, Like how much is Larry pawn?

858
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: And he's like, you know, and he told me the

859
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: number of the check. He's like, yeah, we just handed

860
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: her last night, you know, a check for three and

861
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: a half or four million dollars. Well, if your hand

862
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: and someone to check for three or four million dollars,

863
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: what do you think you're keeping. So Jeffrey Lury became

864
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: really rich. I think he obviously he was rich before

865
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: you own the team. But when they built that new

866
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: stadium in Philly, and I think a lot of obviously

867
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: all these teams, you know, teams that have new arenas

868
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: or new stadiums, they make so much money from concerts

869
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: and here's the other thing where Cronky is gonna have.

870
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: He's building like commercial like they're gonna be shops. It's

871
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a destination. The other thing is the NFL

872
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: network is moving there. Well, how does business work? You

873
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: know who? The NFL is gonna pay for that rent,

874
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: Crunky like right now. I remember when I got out

875
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: of the NFL and was trying to get into media.

876
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: I remember going to see DJ at Daniel Jeremiah at

877
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: NFL Network studios and they just had the studios and

878
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: like Studio City or wherever it is down in l A.

879
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: I don't not that understand the the geographical set up

880
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: of l A. But it was in Studio City. Well,

881
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: the NFL is paying rent for that building. The NFL

882
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: doesn't own it, so they'll gladly just moved to monkeys

883
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: everything centralized. They're gonna pay him rent. He's gonna make

884
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: a lot of money from that. Now, did he ideally

885
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: would have paid less? For sure? But I don't think

886
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: he's losing too much sleep over the amount of cash

887
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna pull the next three or four years, because,

888
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: like I said, the concerts are absolute cash cows. How

889
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: do you see the NFL North unfolding if Aaron Rodgers

890
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: does in fact leave for another team. Thoughts on the

891
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: Viking chances and their team, Well, the Vikings offense is

892
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: elite right last year, Cousin's best season, Dalvin Cook's dominant

893
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: uh feeling is just one of the better just kind

894
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: of number two is in the league, and Justice Jefferson

895
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: looks like a star and Cousins just good. Like is

896
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: he a top five quarterback? No? Is he better than

897
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: twenty quarterbacks in the league. Maybe not twenty, but fifteen yes,

898
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: So if you put him around good talent, he's anywhere

899
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: between like eight to twelve. They're defense was the problem.

900
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: They couldn't cover a soul, they didn't have a pass rush.

901
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: They got Yannick then that didn't work. Daniel Hunter got hurt.

902
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: So if their defense is better, they have a defensive

903
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: head coach. If Rogers is not there, to me, the

904
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: only way the Vikings wouldn't win the division is if

905
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is the offensive rookie of the year. So

906
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: I would say if Rogers leaves, I wouldn't say the

907
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: Packers are done because they still have a ton of talent.

908
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: And then if they got Jordan Love and I guess,

909
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, like they trade him with the Raiders and

910
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: got car. I think the Packers would be solid. The

911
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: Bears talent is just or I mean, season is just

912
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: how good is Justin Fields? If Justin Fields can play

913
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: like Justin Herbert last year, then they should be able

914
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: to compete because their defense and just their teams better

915
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: than what we just sawid Anthony Lynn. But yeah, i'd

916
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: say your Vikings. I'm pretty bullish on the Vikings because

917
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked at their defense stays bad under Zimmer.

918
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: This is baby. I think that you think that grumpy

919
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: old man is gonna let their defense give up that

920
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: many points year in the year out, I can't see it.

921
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: I saw of the Jalen Smith is now going to

922
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: be wearing number nine for the Cowboys. I'm not necessarily

923
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: saying that Tony Romo's number should be retired, But how

924
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: do teams decide what numbers they retire and which ones

925
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: they don't. When teams decide what numbers to let players wear,

926
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Speaker 1: how much respect of past players factors into decisions? Well,

927
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: if you're retired, unless you're like a legend, like if

928
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady had signed with the team where twelve is retired,

929
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: that guy might have let Tom Brady will twelve. Right,

930
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: if Tom Brady has signed with the Cowboys. Listen to this,

931
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm dating myself. I don't know if Roger Stallbach wore

932
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: number twelve, But if Roger stall Back or Troy Agman

933
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: had worn number twelve, I think they would have allowed

934
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: Tom to wear number twelve. Right. But if me or

935
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: you just like a fifth round pick or just a

936
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: random free agent and the number is retired, we can't

937
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: wear it. Typically in my experience, it's like a Hall

938
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: of Fame type player or an all time type player

939
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: for a franchise, right, like the Niners. They're gonna have

940
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: some guys that get retired that weren't Hall of famers,

941
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: Like I think Joe Staley, who won't be a Hall

942
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: of Famer, will have his number retired for the Niners.

943
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: How impactful you were for the franchise. But to me,

944
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: Tony Romo, he's just not getting his number retired. Right

945
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: to me, I'm just Cowboys. Michael Irvin, Troy Aikman, right,

946
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: Roger Saubach, Guys like that, like they it should be

947
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: kind of no brainers. Get your number retired. I hear

948
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: what you're saying. It's like this was the Chiefs and

949
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: Beaches issue why they wanted guys to be able to

950
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: wear single digits. We don't have an unlimited amount of numbers.

951
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: If you keep expanding the rosters, you only have so

952
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: many numbers. Especially, I know the Chiefs have a decent

953
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: amount of guys numbers retired, So if you have a

954
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: decent amount of defensive numbers retired, it's harder to fit

955
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: those numbers in. Think about the Steelers, I bet they

956
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: have a ton of numbers retired, so you'd have to ask.

957
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: I guess it's the owner's call, right at the end

958
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: of the day, if the owner wants to retect, it's

959
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: not the GM's call, it's not the coaches call, it's

960
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: not the marketing officers call. It's the owner. The owner

961
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: wants and it's a smart move. If you have an

962
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: all time great player who plays for you, keep a

963
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: part of the program, keeping a part of the team,

964
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: keep him a part of the city. It's important. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's well ending out there. Uh yeah, talk to you

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Speaker 1: guys a little later this week. Audios