1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio, Robert Young Pelton. He has become the inspiration 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: and role model for a new generation of intellectual adventurers. 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: He's an author, journalist, filmmaker, photographer, adventurer, explorer, expert, author 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: of some great books. Licensed to Kill is one of them. 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: And of course Robert has trained Navy seals and survival techniques, 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: participated in secret special Forces training, motivating young people to 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: do meaningful things with their time on this planet. Robert, 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: welcome back. You're one of my favorites. Good to have you. Hey, 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: George's always one of my favorite things to do late 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: at night is to hang out with George Nary and 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: your listeners. Gosh, just yesterday as soldier in Afghanistan in 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: American was killed, another one was wounded from someone who 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: was basically inside the camp. When is Afghanistan, Robert gonna end? Uh, 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: you start up with the toughest question, so uh, A 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: couple of things I'd like to point out. And one 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: of the things that we get wrong is that our 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: war in Afghanistan did not start in two thousand and one. 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: You know, our war in Afghanistan started in July of 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: ninety nine when Jimmy Carter signed a bill to fund 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: the Mujadeen, which then drew the Russians into Afghanistan. And 22 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: we've been there ever since. And these things we're hearing 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: about the news, like Insider attacked or whatever, have been 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: going on for twenty thirty years. So we are just 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: starting to realize that we're starting to read the same 26 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: headlines over and over and over again. So to answer 27 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: your question, we can leave Afghanistan anytime we want, and 28 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: obviously it will collapse. It'll be like Somalia or any 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: other region that doesn't have outside support. It is truly remarkable. Now, 30 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: when we helped the muss Haadin because we wanted to 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: get the Soviets out of Afghanistan, didn't they turn out 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: to become the Taliban? No, so the Soviets weren't actually 33 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: in afghan when we started UM. The government was turning 34 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: towards communism, right, and remember after World War Two and 35 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: in the Cold War, the Soviets would sneak in and 36 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: start funding things and getting involved in politics and doing 37 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: dirty tricks, and and we wanted to keep them out 38 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: and ended up coming in UM. What happened was that 39 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: those fighters that we funded, which they ranged from the 40 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: Hakani's to various groups, were the Taliban. They essentially went 41 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: back in in the mid nineties and kicked out a 42 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: lot of the warlords and people have been left over, 43 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: and they stabilized the country very briefly, you know, just 44 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Uh. And then of course 45 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: a guy named Samad bin Laden showed up in Jelalabad 46 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: and began to suck up to Malahomar. And that's when 47 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: we realized that we need to not create empty spaces 48 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: for people like ben Laden to hang out. And and 49 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: we've been there ever since, and how long are we 50 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: going to stay there? Well, Uh, there's a theory and 51 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: if you remember Eisenhower and is military industrial complex, that 52 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: the money that you see are spending in Afghanistan is 53 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: actually propping up large parts of the American economy. The 54 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: military industry is one of the few uniquely American sectors 55 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: in which everything has to be made in America, bought 56 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: in America. We hire retired people to work there. So 57 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: it's a multibillion dollar industry. So we we are creating 58 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: a sector of our economy that's dependent upon military action. 59 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Now there is nothing stopping anyone from just leaving Afghanistan. 60 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the Europeans are trying to support the Afghan government. 61 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: We're trying to support the Afghan government, and we truly 62 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: feel that we're making a difference, if only just in 63 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: the massive amount of money we're pushing into the country. 64 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: But it doesn't make could safe or tear a free. 65 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: So we have very very few troops in Afghanistan. As 66 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, we have more troops in the 67 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: continent of Africa than we do in Afghanistan. But it 68 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: is a is a sore spot, you know, it's a 69 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: constant Vietnam era reminder that we don't seem to win 70 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: these colonial wars, if you want to call them that, 71 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: And everybody gets angry because why are we there? Why 72 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: are we spending money? So depending on our foreign policy, 73 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: we're either helping the poorest countries on Earth rise up 74 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: from chaos or we're just creating that chaos. 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