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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour Clay and Buck kicks off.

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Speaker 3: Now we're diving deep into the Supreme Court arguments from

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Speaker 3: earlier this morning, where you had the State of Colorado

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Speaker 3: trying to explain to as even the New York Times

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Speaker 3: views it, a very skeptical Supreme Court, including some of

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Speaker 3: the questions at least from the leftist justices there about

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Speaker 3: whether Donald Trump can be taken off the ballot in Colorado. Remember,

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Speaker 3: there was a similar action that was sort of tried

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Speaker 3: in main but actually the main Secretary of State, if

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Speaker 3: memory serves, said well, I'm going to do this thing

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Speaker 3: by taking Trump off, but I'm going to stay my

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Speaker 3: own hand until we know what the court says.

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Speaker 2: So you know, they're playing games.

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Speaker 3: But in Colorado, I think now the question is not

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Speaker 3: will Trump be on the ballot. The question is the

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Speaker 3: degree of humiliation that those who push this forward as

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Speaker 3: a legal argument are going to suffer, Meaning is it

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Speaker 3: going to be five to four, seven to two, six, three,

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Speaker 3: nine to oh. Some are thinking it could even be

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Speaker 3: nine oh. I think some people are saying, I think

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Speaker 3: that it is Well, the more you dig into some

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Speaker 3: of the questions.

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Speaker 2: I think on this one, Clay, the harder it.

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Speaker 3: Is to imagine for anything other than the purest politics,

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Speaker 3: a justice could view this as anything other than an

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Speaker 3: opportunity for a nine.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 3: But I do think the politics of the furthest left

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Speaker 3: members of the court could reign supreme here and you

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Speaker 3: could get like a seven to two situation. Julie Kelly

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Speaker 3: would be with us in the third hour. She was

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Speaker 3: there today and she tweeted this out. It is clear

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Speaker 3: that the Scotis decision will not even be close, and

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Speaker 3: it will represent a total humiliation to so many legal

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Speaker 3: experts and historians in quotes who filed amicus brief to

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Speaker 3: defend Colorado's actions. That's true, Clay, There's a collateral damage

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Speaker 3: of credibility here. How could anyone think, in you know,

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Speaker 3: how can anyone approach this and believe that there was

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Speaker 3: an honest argument here that what they were doing was

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Speaker 3: one justified and legal, and two didn't set the most

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Speaker 3: awful precedent for presidential elections going forward.

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Speaker 1: I believe the Colorado Court, if I remember correctly, Buck

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Speaker 1: ruled for three. Yes, there's narrow, very narrow, and they

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Speaker 1: have seven Democrats on the Colorado Supreme Court is my

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Speaker 1: is my understanding. There is no Republican representative, and the

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Speaker 1: crew can look that up and confirm it's one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent true. But what I also remember a three two?

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Speaker 1: But was it four four to three? I think it

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Speaker 1: was three two. I thought it was, and it was

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Speaker 1: by one. Yea, it was by one basically. But what

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Speaker 1: I also recall seeing is that the justices that were

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Speaker 1: in the majority in Colorado were all Ivy League law

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Speaker 1: school graduates. And the justices that refused to sign on

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Speaker 1: to the idea of taking Trump off the ballot, we're

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Speaker 1: all sort of state college graduates. And some people out

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Speaker 1: there may say, well, what is the implication of that?

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Speaker 1: I would argue that the elite law schools often have

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Speaker 1: become such laboratories for left wing outrageousness that sometimes they

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Speaker 1: lose their understanding and common sense. And this is the

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Speaker 1: line that I gave last week. I think buck, if

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Speaker 1: I were giving Trump advice with all this law fair

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Speaker 1: that is before the courts now, I would just keep

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Speaker 1: coming back again and again to let the people decide.

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Speaker 1: The very foundation of a democratic republic is that the

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Speaker 1: people get to this side. If they are going to

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Speaker 1: elect a leader or not. And if you truly think

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Speaker 1: that you're trying to preserve democracy, the idea that you

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Speaker 1: would try to put it in the hands of nine

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices, or that you would put it in

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Speaker 1: the hands of twelve jurors in a Washington, DC or

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Speaker 1: a New York City courtroom, or a South Florida courtroom

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Speaker 1: it's also twelve people are in my opinion, more likely

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Speaker 1: to get something wrong than one hundred and fifty million are.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we believe in the wisdom of crowds. Let

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Speaker 1: people decide whether they believe Trump is qualified to be

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Speaker 1: president or not. That's the very essence of democracy itself.

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Speaker 1: We also believe in the madness of crowds. But yes

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Speaker 1: in the case of voting, Yes in the case of voting.

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Speaker 3: I see your point. I would add to this a

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Speaker 3: couple of things. One, it should fundamentally be a political question.

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Speaker 3: You and I see this exactly the same way. I

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Speaker 3: think any reasonable, honest person sees it that way at

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Speaker 3: this point, because think about what's being argued here. Trump

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Speaker 3: is danger to the country that they are terrified he

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Speaker 2: So there's clearly a wisdom.

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Speaker 3: And judgment disconnect here when their biggest concern is that,

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Speaker 3: you know, the process we have would lawfully elect him again.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's why you get people like here

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Speaker 3: David Axelrod, who say what you will about him. He's

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Speaker 3: in Obama's rise. Axelrod is saying, look, this effort to

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Speaker 3: get Trump off the ballot, this has cut three.

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Speaker 2: It's disruptive. That's an interesting way to put it. Play three.

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Speaker 4: I'm not here as an apologist for Donald Trump, and

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Speaker 4: I'm certainly not here as a lawyer, but I'm sure

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Speaker 4: that one of the things the Supreme Court has to

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Speaker 4: consider is what is the impact of a decision like that.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to imagine what it would be like if

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court said we're removing the front running Republican

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Speaker 4: candidate from the ballot and essentially saying the American people,

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Speaker 4: you won't have the opportunity to vote for him. And

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Speaker 4: I think it would be very, very disruptive in this country.

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Speaker 4: I think it will create a huge reaction and that

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Speaker 3: That is the astute observation of the opposition here in

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Speaker 3: all this. He hates Trump. I'm sure he thinks Trump

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Speaker 3: is terrible for the country, YadA YadA, all of that,

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Speaker 3: but he recognizes clear this is fundamentally absurd. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the notion that you're going to kick this guy off

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Speaker 3: the ballot because the state of Colorado is run by

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Speaker 3: Libs and they don't want him to run, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I Mean, the view of this from Normalville is when

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Speaker 3: did the other side lose their minds?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And this is why I hope that the three

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Speaker 1: liberals on the court are going to look past Trump,

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Speaker 1: look past Trump into the decades into potentially the hundreds

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Speaker 1: of years to come, and ask the question, Trump's going

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Speaker 1: to move on? Right? Every president is at some point

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Speaker 1: in time going to be left behind to history to

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Speaker 1: be judged. And so are these opinions. And if you've

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Speaker 1: been the law to go after Trump, you are setting

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Speaker 1: an awful precedent going forward. There's a great legal aphorism

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Speaker 1: buck tough cases make bad law. Trump is for the

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Speaker 1: left a tough case because they have bought into the

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Speaker 1: idea that he is a unique threat in a way

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Speaker 1: that a Republican in our life has never been, and

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Speaker 1: a Democrat in our life has never been. That's what

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Speaker 1: he's been branded as. And so I hope that they

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Speaker 1: are willing Katanji Brown, Jackson, Elena Kagan, and Sonya Sautamayor,

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Speaker 1: I hope they're willing to look at this and say, look,

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Speaker 1: Trump will be gone in twenty twenty eight if he

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Speaker 1: wins the election, he's term limited out, He's gone. Whatever

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Speaker 1: precedent we put in place here is going to outlive

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Speaker 1: all of us, and so we don't know what the

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Speaker 1: future is going to hold. But trying to get Trump

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Speaker 1: off here, this could come back and bite you. And

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Speaker 1: let me hit you at this buck. We know things

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Speaker 1: went poorly for the idea of keeping Trump off the ballot.

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Speaker 1: When the headline right now at the New York Times

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Speaker 1: is this, you'll appreciate this. Here's the headline. Justices appear

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Speaker 1: skeptical of arguments to kick Trump off state ballots. I

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Speaker 1: would say that's accurate. Opening sentence from the article book.

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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court seemed poised to issue a lopsided decision

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Speaker 1: rejecting a challenge to Donald Trump's eligibility to hold office again,

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Speaker 1: when the Supreme Court has that as the lead, that

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Speaker 1: was an ass kicking buck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: When the New York Times is writing that, you know

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Speaker 3: that there's obviously something that they're preparing the audience for here.

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Speaker 3: And there's a lot of that going on, right that

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Speaker 3: there were so many brief em achy whatever that went

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Speaker 3: if you're writing an amicus brief for IF nine, we

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Speaker 3: don't know if it's gonna be nine oh. I still

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Speaker 3: think it's probably gonna be seven to two, But I

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Speaker 3: could be wrong. If it's a nine to oh decision

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Speaker 3: from the court, it looks like you have no idea

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Speaker 3: what constitutional law really is because to get all nine

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Speaker 3: there's really no wiggle room there.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: It's because then it's outside the realm of politics. It

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Speaker 3: has to be just the most obvious and blatant uh

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Speaker 3: legal interpretation possible constitutional interpretation. And I think that I

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Speaker 3: know we've got you know, the the actualities from the hearing,

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Speaker 3: weighing in. We got Julie Kelly who was there. She'll

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Speaker 3: be talking to us the next hour. Let's go over

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Speaker 3: to MSNBC. It's just a version of what you're talking about, Clay,

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Speaker 3: which is what The New York Times is doing, where

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Speaker 3: they have to they have to do this thing where

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Speaker 3: they tell it's like they're it's like they're an employee

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Speaker 3: who's scared to tell the boss about the bad numbers

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Speaker 3: for the quarter. Know, the anchors at MSNBC have to

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Speaker 3: tell their audience. Now, hey, guys, you know how that

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Speaker 3: gonna stop Trump. Yeah, it's kind of falling apart right now,

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Speaker 3: just to let you know, we're not sure how bad,

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Speaker 3: but it's pretty bad. Because what else are they gonna do.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they've been promising this, and this is why

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Speaker 3: it ties directly into the Joe Biden situation and why

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Speaker 3: I believe you know, their plan has actually been to

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Speaker 3: have him as the nominee because Clay, if the entire

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Speaker 3: focus is going to be on Trump and the lawfair

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Speaker 3: against Trump, then the incumbent, as Milk toast boring and

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Speaker 3: inconsequential as he can seem.

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Speaker 2: That's what they want to go for.

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Speaker 3: But if you start to have the law fair unravel,

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Speaker 3: then you do have a real problem here, right, because

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Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, the guy who's you know,

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Speaker 3: don't really see, you don't really pay attention to. That's

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Speaker 3: not who you want as your presidential nominee going up

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Speaker 1: I'll just picked suring what Trump would be like if

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court rules nine to zero in his favor.

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Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine the press conference that he's

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Speaker 1: going to immediately have and the way that he's going

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Speaker 1: to describe the Supreme Court opinion and the victory if

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Speaker 1: it's nine.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he'll be talking about beautiful soda, my or decisions.

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Speaker 3: That's fantastic from Katanji Brown Jackson.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he that's the one thing for a political purpose.

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Speaker 1: I wonder whether Kaitanji Brown Jackson and Sonya Sodamor and

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Speaker 1: to a lesser extent, Olena Kagan are willing to let

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Speaker 1: Trump have the victory lap. But remember Colorado created this.

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Speaker 1: Colorado gave potentially Trump the opportunity to rise up, maybe

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Speaker 2: In Colorado, it looks like it's blowing up in their face.

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Speaker 1: reacting to the unprecedented argument before the United States Supreme

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Speaker 3: But just fyi and that and that alone, right on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and buck if you get the Colorado Supreme

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay an buck.

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Speaker 3: We are making sense of the supreme court arguments that

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Speaker 3: Even even the Libs, like I said, there, they're having

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't even he just expects me to

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Speaker 3: This is the cut where they're asking for legal analysis

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Speaker 5: Did it surprised you that the issue of insurrection, how

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Speaker 6: The focus today didn't seem to be on whether or

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Speaker 2: doing there, right, Clay.

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Speaker 3: The fallback now is, yeah, it's about legal eese and

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Speaker 3: Not only would that have implications or you know, major

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I just come back to I really

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Speaker 1: there's ten different legal proceedings. Just think about this, Buck

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Speaker 1: And You've got all the Egene Carroll News. You've got

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Speaker 1: By my count Buck, that's nine different legal proceedings that

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Speaker 1: And I think it just kind of gets thrown into

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that anybody changes their opinion of

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump based on anything that's gonna happen legally, and

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Speaker 1: that obviously is the crux of this, all right. Democrats

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Speaker 1: believe that if they can get a felony conviction of

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, it will mean Joe Biden or whomever the

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Speaker 1: Democrat nominee is wins. That's their ace in the whole.

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Speaker 3: And this is why I keep saying, and I know

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Speaker 3: it sounds to some folks a little cynical, but it

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter that Joe Biden looks like he needs to

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Speaker 3: be spoon fed his apple sauce and the sippy cup

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Speaker 3: and the blanket over the knees, and you know we can't.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter because they're not trying to use Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden as a great leader who's going to unite the

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Speaker 3: country this time. It's just he's not Trump, and Trump

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Speaker 3: is a convicted felon. That's the whole that's the whole game, right,

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Speaker 3: That's their way of overcoming the obvious deficiencies that that

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden has, I mean deficiencies as far too kind

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Speaker 3: to word, but deficiencies that he has as a candidate.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: That's the that's their firing of nuclear weapons so to speak,

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Speaker 3: in this and if those weapons don't fire, they got

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Speaker 3: a problem.

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Speaker 1: So what would you say right now? Do you buy

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Speaker 1: that if they get a conviction on Trump that it's

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Speaker 1: going to swing the election, Because there's polling that is

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Speaker 1: out there, to be fair, that says if they get

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Speaker 1: a felony conviction, it changes the outcome of the election.

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Speaker 1: There are some segment of the population out there that

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Speaker 1: will change their vote increasingly. Buck. I just I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna I don't think it's gonna be the needle.

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Speaker 2: It's it's clay.

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Speaker 3: It's so hard to say because the real question is

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Speaker 3: if Donald Trump is officially a convicted felon, and they

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Speaker 3: start running NonStop ads as well as journalism news coverage

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Speaker 3: of Donald Trump, the convicted felon, starting in let's say

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Speaker 3: September or October, could that change the minds of a

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Speaker 3: few hundred thousand voters who are swing voters in five

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Speaker 3: or six states. I think you have to say, yes,

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Speaker 3: it could, will it? The only way to know is

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Speaker 3: to run the experiment. Right, So, I'm with you and

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Speaker 3: that I'm skeptical, but I am not. You know, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to wake up the day after your election

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Speaker 3: be like, oh my god, how do we not see

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Speaker 3: this coming?

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Speaker 1: Well, they're very straightforward about their game plan. They're not

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Speaker 1: hiding it from anyone. They believe that they get a

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Speaker 1: felony conviction. That's why they're trying to rush it through.

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Speaker 1: That's why they waited until twenty twenty three to suddenly

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Speaker 1: bring these charges. Right, you could have brought these charges

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Speaker 1: in twenty one. You could have brought these charges in

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Speaker 1: twenty two. I also think, Buck, there's nothing that I've

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Speaker 1: seen so far from the Jack Smith case. That is

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Speaker 1: different than what we saw from all the jan sixth

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Speaker 1: related hearings and all the media coverage we've seen for

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Speaker 1: the past three years, going on four years since this

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Speaker 1: all happened. And so I'm skeptical of how much things

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Speaker 1: are going to change and if they're wrong, and if

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Speaker 1: they're wrong, they may well have created an emboldened and

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Speaker 1: a strengthened Trump that actually wins comfortably.

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Speaker 3: I know you're technically not a jukebox or a DJ,

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Speaker 3: but I do have a request for a story that

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Speaker 3: I want you to take a swing at in the

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Speaker 3: next one, can we which is you see.

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Speaker 2: What they're doing in Virginia. They are defunded.

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Speaker 1: I'm fired up about.

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Speaker 3: Silvil wore his historical sights, his historical sites the Virginia

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Speaker 3: State Senate. I send this to Clay. I was like,

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Speaker 3: the Clay bat signal is up on this one. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna talk about this little bit. Then we got Julie

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. All right, Buck, you found

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Speaker 1: this and it's got me fired up. I just think

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Speaker 1: it's worth discussing here on the show. I am one

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Speaker 1: billion percent a Civil War history nerd. I love everything

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Speaker 1: about the Civil War, the historical angles, whether it's touring battlefields,

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Speaker 1: whether it's visiting historic sites where the Civil War generals

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Speaker 1: lived back away from the battlefields obviously, and I saw

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Speaker 1: this story and I can't believe it's happening. The Virginia

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Speaker 1: Senate and I'm reading this from Jackson Waters, but you

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Speaker 1: shared this with me. A while ago passed a bill

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Speaker 1: to take away funding for Robert E. Lee and Stonewall

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Speaker 1: Jackson historic homes. And there is talk that without the

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Speaker 1: tax exempt status and the opportunity here from the state

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Speaker 1: of Virginia that these homes are going to not be

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Speaker 1: able to stay open and have people too with them. Now.

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Speaker 1: I visited Stonewall Jackson's home in Lexington, Virginia that is

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Speaker 1: pictured here in the story. It's a fabulous historic site Lexington, Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Some of you have never been to. That place is

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Speaker 1: where VMI Jenny Military Institute is located in Shenandoah Valley.

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Speaker 1: It's where William where Washington and Lee is located. Remember

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Speaker 1: they tried to take Roberty Lee's name off of that

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Speaker 1: school in the wake of the George Floyd incident. I

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Speaker 1: just think there's ever everything is wrong here and this

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Speaker 1: ties in frankly with what Trump said would happen, where

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Speaker 1: eventually you start taking down all sorts of history. It's

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Speaker 1: not going to end Here was Trump back in seventeen

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Speaker 1: talking about how this impact Thomas Jefferson and George Washington.

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Speaker 5: Listen, you take a look at some of the groups

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Speaker 5: and you see and you know it if you were

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Speaker 5: honest reporters, which in many cases you're not. But many

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Speaker 5: of those people were there to protest the taking down

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Speaker 5: of the Statue of Roberty Lee. So this week it's

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Speaker 5: Roberty Lee. I noticed that Stonewall Jackson's coming down. I

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Speaker 5: wonder is it George Washington next week? And is it

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Speaker 5: Thomas Jefferson the week after? You know, you really do

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Speaker 5: have to ask yourself where does it stop?

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Speaker 1: Fuck? I mean, look, this is what they're trying to

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Speaker 1: do is take away the taxes m status. It's not

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Speaker 1: like these museums are making millions and millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to aid the American people and being able

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Speaker 1: to better understand our history. That Lexington, Virginia home in particular,

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Speaker 1: that I've toured, and that is phenomenal. Stowall Jackson was

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Speaker 1: a professor at VMI. Obviously, after the war, Robert Lee

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Speaker 1: He renamed it. He's buried there. Lexington, Virginia is a

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Speaker 1: phenomenal place to visit. But we can't go through this

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Speaker 1: time after time. I'm embarrassed that they would do this

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Speaker 1: in Virginia, which is a very historic state.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's part of making Virginia full blue right that

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Speaker 3: the whole Democrat agenda has to be enacted, even as

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Speaker 3: it pertains to history now and wokeness and DEI and

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Speaker 3: all of it. And I would just say, you're seeing

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Speaker 3: the look. The slippery slope is undefeated.

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Speaker 2: As they say online these days.

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Speaker 3: The slippery slope is alive and well here because it

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Speaker 3: went from nevermind the expansion and Trump is one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent right because you know, he has common sense. One

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Speaker 3: of the things people love about Trump the most who

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Speaker 3: love him is he's a common sense guy. So there's

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Speaker 3: a connection there between other people and him based on

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Speaker 3: that commonality. But Clay, it's not just that it's expanding

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Speaker 3: to more people. The whole thing that they were arguing was, oh,

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Speaker 3: it's okay as history, but it shouldn't be in at

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Speaker 3: like a at a government building, or it shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: in a place of honor in public. Some of these

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Speaker 3: things should just be in museums.

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Speaker 2: Well, we said, well.

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Speaker 3: Hold on a second, are we really even sure they're

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Speaker 3: going to keep it? And the answer is no. Now

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Speaker 3: they actually don't want them. They want to pull funding

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Speaker 3: from what are effectively museums as well.

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Speaker 1: Don't museum to exist, Yeah, they want to do away

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Speaker 1: with the museum. And look, if you don't like, if

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Speaker 1: you don't like Civil War history, I understand. I mean

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are not history buffs about any

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Speaker 1: of it. You know. That's one of the big issues

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Speaker 1: that we have in the country today is everybody has

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Speaker 1: the memory of a goldfish and they don't understand historical

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Speaker 1: context at all. But if you're not interested in learning

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Speaker 1: about this or experiencing it, don't go. I don't see

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Speaker 1: how the state of Virginia benefits in any way by

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Speaker 1: erasing a fuller picture of its history. And Roberty Lee

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Speaker 1: in the history of the state. And there are lots

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Speaker 1: of people contextualizing and telling their story. And I can

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Speaker 1: speak to it because I go to all these sites

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Speaker 1: because I'm a Civil War history nerd and just a

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Speaker 1: history nerd in general. That Stonewall Jackson Home is an

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Speaker 1: incredible place to go tour. And if you're just a

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Speaker 1: military history buff, Stonewall Jackson is one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: the most talented. They still study the Shannandoah Valley Campaign.

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Speaker 1: The outcome of the Civil War might well have been

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Speaker 1: different if Stonewall Jackson wasn't shot at Chancellorsville by his

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Speaker 1: own troops. And I know I'm not alone. I know

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Speaker 1: many of you out there listening feel the same way too.

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Speaker 1: But we cannot judge historic figures modern day standards. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm out Las Vegas right now, Caesar's palace. Caesar enslaved

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Speaker 1: more people buck than almost anyone in the history of

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you can you can point out

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Speaker 3: that Julius Caesar was actually one of some would argue,

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Speaker 3: one of the most talented generals. And we always think

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Speaker 3: of him because again stabbed and at two Brute and

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Speaker 3: Leopatra and all this sort of stuff, that whole situation.

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Speaker 3: But the truth is that he This is where we

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Speaker 3: I think Tacitus wrote that they made a desert and

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Speaker 3: called it peace, referring to Julius Caesar annihilating Gaul, which

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Speaker 3: is now you know, France, Germany killing. They think he

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Speaker 3: killed like a couple of million people or so. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it was just a.

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Speaker 1: Total back when the population was not very big in

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Speaker 1: the very big right, so it's not yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he was not a good He was

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Speaker 3: not a good person in the sense of, you know,

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Speaker 3: decent and h and humanitarian folks, but talented general interesting

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Speaker 3: role in history. You know, we're not all sitting around

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Speaker 3: saying pete just like Julius Caesar. Although the haircut was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the haircut's interesting, but I mean, that's so far

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Speaker 1: back nobody knows the history. But you can walk right

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Speaker 1: into a Vegas casino and there's a huge statue of Caesar.

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Speaker 1: But I just you know, I I've talked about this before,

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Speaker 1: but there's a clip. Martin Luther King Junior, believe it

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Speaker 1: or not, used to do an advice column occasionally for

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Speaker 1: I believe. I can't remember the magazine, but was it

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Speaker 1: maybe Ebony back in the day. The crew can look

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Speaker 1: up what the magazine was. But he said that being

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Speaker 1: gay was a was a vintal illness and that you

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Speaker 1: should go see a psychiatrist and you should get treated

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Speaker 1: me for if you weday.

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Speaker 3: Barack Obama ran as a traditional marriage a pro traditional

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Speaker 3: marriage president, meaning anti gay marriage, and it's just erased

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Speaker 3: from the history books. It's actually injuring Joe Biden's when

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Speaker 3: who takes credit for moving things in the more progressive

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Speaker 3: direction there. But that's because they make it up as

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Speaker 3: they go along. It's all about the needs of the moment.

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Speaker 3: But I just think that the fundamental thing here is

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Speaker 3: to change from oh, we don't want to elevate these

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Speaker 3: Civil War figures too. We can't have museums that show you,

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Speaker 3: in the context of a museum, who they were and

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Speaker 3: what they were all about.

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Speaker 2: That's true erasure of history. That's insane.

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Speaker 1: And I would like, I mean, I'm not kidding about this.

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Speaker 1: I would like to do whatever I can't help these

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Speaker 1: places stay open. So some of you may be out

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Speaker 1: there listening, may be involved with them, let me know,

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Speaker 1: let Buck know what we can do about some of

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Speaker 1: you as well to help keep these places open for

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Speaker 1: people to be able to tour