1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where I'm frantically 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: trying to finish this couple's costume for my annual Christmas 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: party Fletch Navidad, and I'll only be sharing them with 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: you if they turn out okay. 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: Otherwise this never happened. You never heard this. 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: We always intended to just wear clown noses and say 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: we're Rudolph. 8 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 2: It's Friday, December twelfth. 9 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: Then on Today show, we'll be chatting with former WNBA 10 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: player coach and sometime Reality start Tay Young about working 11 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: under Teresa Weatherspoon with the Sky and her shock at 12 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: the WNBA legend getting just one year at the Helm 13 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: in Chicago, plus her take on the offseason options now 14 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: available to players and the reality of being on reality 15 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: TV and later a mechanism we can get behind scoring 16 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: up a storm and is it possible that winning this 17 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: much is a bad thing. 18 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 2: It's all coming up right after this. 19 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: Welcome Back Slices, Happy Friday. Here's what you need to 20 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: know today. Let's start with the NWSL per ESPN's Jeff Cassoup, 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: the league's Bard of Governors is in advanced discussions to 22 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: implement a new quote unquote roster mechanism that would allow 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: star players to be paid large salaries that would exceed 24 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: the current salary cap. The discussions are a clear response 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: to the pressure on the NWSL to find a way 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: to keep Trinity Rodman following last week's news that the 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: league refused to sign off on a contract agreed to 28 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: by Rodman and the Washington Spirit. Here's an excerpt from 29 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Cassoof's story. The basic framework of the new mechanism is 30 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: that each team would have a set amount of money 31 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: beyond the current salary cap, to spend on star players 32 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: who meet certain criteria, and that those funds could be 33 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: used on multiple players. A version of the proposal is 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: currently out for a vote with the league's board and 35 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: could be approved ahead of next week's scheduled board meeting 36 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: end quote. What is it with these leagues waiting until 37 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: the eleventh hour to fix problems that we knew existed 38 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: months in advance? Looking at you, too, WNBA? How are 39 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: those CBA negotiations going? We'll link to Kasof's full story 40 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: in the show Notes to Hockey. The USA and Canada 41 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: played the third of four rivalry series games on Wednesday night, 42 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: and I hate to say it, But is it possible 43 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: the US has given the Canadians too much revenge fuel 44 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: ahead of the Olympics, because Team USA cruise to its 45 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: third straight rivalry series win, this one a ten to 46 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: four blowout, following equally lopsided four to one and six 47 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: to one wins to open the series. It was actually 48 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: the Canadians who found the back of the net first 49 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: on Wednesday night in Edmonton, with Sarah Phillier scoring just 50 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: forty eight seconds into the contest, but by the end 51 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: of the first period, the US had bounced back and 52 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: was already up four to one. With the ten to 53 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: four victory, it marks the first time in one hundred 54 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: and ninety four meetings that either the US or Canada 55 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: racked up ten goals against its rival. The previous record 56 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: of nine goals was set by the US back in 57 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: twenty twelve, with the Americans defeating the Canadians nine to 58 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: two in the preliminary round of the World Championships, only 59 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: to lose five to four in overtime of the championship 60 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: game one week later. 61 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: So let's just say we're not reading too much into this. 62 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: The rivalry series concludes this Saturday with the fourth and 63 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: final game in the series, the final meeting between the 64 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: two teams. 65 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: Before the Olympics. 66 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: To college whops Number ten, Iowa State kept its undefeated 67 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: record alive on Wednesday night, defeating cross date rival Iowa 68 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: seventy four to sixty nine behind another stellar performance from 69 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: Audie Crooks. Crooks recorded thirty points and ten rebounds in 70 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: the win, her third straight game with at least thirty points. 71 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: Per her hoopstats, she currently leads the country in points 72 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: per game at twenty seven point eight and his second 73 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: in field goal shooting percentage seventy two point two percent. 74 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: Also shout out to hoops analyst Rachel Gallagan for this 75 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: wild stat. With two hundred seventy six points and two 76 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: hundred and forty five minutes played so far this season, 77 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: Crooks is on track to become the second player this 78 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: century across D one hoops, the MNBA and the WNBA 79 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: to average at least one point per minute in a season. 80 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: The only other person to accomplish that feat the seventy 81 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: six ers Joel Embiid back during the twenty twenty three 82 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: to twenty four MNBA season. More college hoops, there are 83 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: a couple of big games between ranked opponents this weekend, 84 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: including tomorrow's matchup between number one Yukon and number sixteen USC. 85 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: The nine and zero Huskies have won every game this 86 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 1: season by at least fifteen points, a few of them 87 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: by more than sixty points, except for one they're seventy 88 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: two to sixty nine win over number six Michigan. We'll 89 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: see if USC can step up to give the Huskies 90 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: their second big challenge of the year. Also on Saturday, 91 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 1: an in state battle between number nine Oklahoma and number 92 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: twenty three Oklahoma State. Then on Sunday another cross state matchup, 93 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: this one between number two Texas and number thirteen Baylor. 94 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: That one tips at one pm Eastern, followed by number 95 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: twelve North Carolina playing host to number twenty two Louisville 96 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: at four pm Eastern. We'll link to the full college 97 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: hoops schedule in the show notes to College Vibs. A 98 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: reminder that the Sweet sixteen and Elite Eight continue through 99 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: this weekend. That includes four matchups today beginning at twelve 100 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: pm Eastern and continuing through tonight at nine thirty pm Eastern, 101 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: when number one Nebraska lines up against number four Kansas 102 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: with the goal of keeping its undefeated season and its 103 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: title hopes alive. We'll link to the full schedule and 104 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: bracket in the show notes. More vibs. The University of 105 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: Texas announced on Wednesday that it's seeking private developers with 106 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: the goal of building a new six thousand seat venue 107 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: for the Longhorns women's volleyball team. Per the Request for 108 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: Proposal aka RFP, the facility will include student athlete housing 109 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: in addition to the new competition venue. UT's volleyball team 110 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: currently plays at Gregory Jim which fits about four thousand people. 111 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: That venue will actually host today's match between the number 112 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: one seeded Longhorns and number four Indiana, as well as 113 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: Sunday's regional final and still more. Viv's Major League Volleyball 114 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: aka MLV has announced a fifty match national broadcast schedule 115 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: for their upcoming third season of play. CBS Sports and 116 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: Roku Sports Channel will again be league partners. They're joined 117 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: by Ion, which will broadcast the MLV Championship, semi finals 118 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: and final live, plus mlv's newest league outlet, Vice. The 119 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: league is also announced a nor Call expansion franchise, with 120 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: founding owners including Beach Volleyball great Carrie Walsh. Jennings and 121 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: chairman of the MNBA Sacramento Kings Vivekrana Dve. The team's 122 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: lead investor and executive chair is Teresa Goo, founding partner 123 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: of a Crew Capital and a minority owner of the 124 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: NWSL's BFC and the NFL's Buffalo Bills. The newer Cal 125 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: franchise will start play in twenty twenty seven. All Right, 126 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: slices quickly, got to give you a footy and gay 127 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: shit report as we send our congratulations to newlywed NWSL 128 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: players Kristin Westfall of the Houston Dash and Matti Pogarsh 129 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: aka Poe, most recently of the Utah Royals. The pair 130 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: announce their wedding on Insta on Wednesday with gorgeous picks 131 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: of the brides and a pup in a tuxedo top. 132 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: We'll link to the post in the show notes. We 133 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: got to take a quick break. When we come back. 134 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: It's Tye Young joining us now. 135 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: She's a former WNBA player and coach turned reality star 136 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: at James Madison Grad. She went on to play twelve 137 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: years in the WNBA for the Atlanta Dream, Chicago Sky 138 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas Aces, and was an assistant coach for 139 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: the Sky under Teresa Weatherspoon. A North Carolina native, she 140 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: broke records at the high school Michael Jordan made famous 141 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: So Stylish she was named to the League Fits Hall 142 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: of Fame, and she has her own line, t y 143 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 1: one Gear. She's definitely seen Monica in concert more times 144 00:06:59,120 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: than you have. 145 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: It's high tie, Hi, what's up? How you doing? 146 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: I gotta start with Monica, like, how did you become 147 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: friends with Monica? Because first of all, the irony of 148 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: you rocking a you know, the Boy is Mine jacket 149 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: everywhere is great, but I need to hear about this relationship. 150 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely. It started when I went to see her she 151 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: was speaking on a panel for this conference here in Atlanta, 152 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: and then also I went to her so AAU game 153 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: and we just hit it off from there. 154 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so you've been to how many of these Monica 155 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Brandy Like duo concerts? 156 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: I've been to three so far and I'm going to 157 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: another one soon. 158 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: Do you have any tea for us? 159 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: Because I've not been keeping up on it, but I 160 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: feel like, wasn't there a show where Brandy like left 161 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: in the middle and then there was all these conspiracy 162 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: theories about it? 163 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: Well, when they was in Chicago. She got dehydrated, so okay, 164 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: that's what happened. 165 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was no beef. The boy didn't finally break 166 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: them up. She just got thirsty. 167 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: No beef, no boy. All okay, we. 168 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: Got to start with growing up and my guy, MJ. 169 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: I am the biggest Michael Jordan fan. I can't believe 170 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: you got to go to Laney High School, the famous 171 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: Lady High School where he was famously cut. 172 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: Although there's a lot more to that story than most people. 173 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: Tell, but it was all wins for you, all time 174 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: leading scorer there, your number eleven Jersey is retired. What 175 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: was it like growing up and being a hooper at 176 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: the place that Michael Jordan got started. 177 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: It was surreal, you know because growing up, Michael Jordan 178 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: was one of my favorite male basketball players. So being 179 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: able to go to the school, well, his loco is 180 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: in the middle of the floor, we're getting free Jordan's, 181 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: we're getting free Jordan clothing, and just you know, seeing 182 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: his accolades all around the gym was motivation in itself. 183 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 3: But it was just a cool experience to be able 184 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: to get those things, whereas now they're getting a lot more. 185 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: But you know, it was still cool to be able 186 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: to get that. 187 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, did he ever come back while you were there? 188 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: I never met Michael Jordan until I was playing for 189 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: the Chicago Sky as an an adult. 190 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: You said one of your favorite male players. Did you 191 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: have favorite female players growing up? 192 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: Teresa Wellson one was my favorite female player? No way, Yeah, 193 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: Tea spoiled. That's why what's true? You are. My auntie 194 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: was a season ticket holder for the Liberty since Dan 195 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: Agril season, So as a kid, I would spend my 196 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: summers in New York and my auntie would take me 197 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: to the games, and that's how she became my favorite player. Gosh, 198 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 3: I really love that, and I'm really jealous. 199 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: I feel like there are certain families that cultivate that 200 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: female sport fandom in a way that is really special. 201 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: You don't hear it as much from women that they 202 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: grew up. Now. I think for sure, these generations of 203 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: young boys and girls are going to have a lot 204 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: of female idols. But growing up, all of my favorite 205 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: athletes were all men, and it just wasn't like intentional 206 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: to put me in front of women's sports. 207 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 2: And I wish they had because there was. 208 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: So much to get out of those early generations of 209 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: like the first pros. What was the toughest part for 210 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: you when you were making the transition from college and 211 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: high school where you had a ton of success where 212 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: you're the top dog to the pros. 213 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: Well, the most difficult was the pace of the game, 214 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 3: the physicality of the game. You know, like you're going 215 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: from college kids so to speak to grown women. But 216 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: for me, the transition of being that star player and 217 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: then having to fall into a role it was difficult 218 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: because at JAMU, I was to go to player, so 219 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: I'm taking any shot I won't when I won't. I 220 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: had the ultimate green light, whereas now I'm in the 221 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: league and I'm still shooting when I won't. But my 222 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: coach is like, hey, like you know, let's real it. There, 223 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 3: you got teammates that you could pass the ball to now. 224 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 3: So that was something that I had to adjust to 225 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: and which was I adjusted pretty swiftly because ultimately I 226 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: wanted to be on the floor. 227 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:45,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. 228 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: From Afar, you strike me as this combination of sort 229 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: of like not quiet swagger, but like swagger that is 230 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: intense as opposed to over the top. Does that sam 231 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: accurate to you? 232 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: Pretty much? Yeah? I have I'm like a quiet storm. 233 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. 234 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: How did you put that into place as a teammate 235 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: at the pro level? 236 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: How did you figure out? 237 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: If I'm not the star anymore, here's where I make 238 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: a difference, both on the court and in terms of 239 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: the relationships with my teammates. 240 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 3: My passion and my personality. I was always like silly 241 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: and I like to make people laugh. But my passion 242 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 3: and my self determination still gave me that motivation, like, hey, okay, 243 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: if I can't be the go to player that gets 244 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: to shoot when I want, then I'm going to take 245 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 3: on this defensive role. It's something that a lot of 246 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 3: players didn't want to do. Oh I didn't have the heart, 247 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: you know, Like I've always had that dog in me. 248 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 3: So it was a role that I took on because 249 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: I wanted to be on the floor. And I still like, 250 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: if I can't take twenty shots, I want to stop 251 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: you from making twenty shots. 252 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like find your spot to make a difference for 253 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: the team, to keep yourself out there. 254 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: You were with the Chicago Sky for a long time. 255 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: That's my team. 256 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: I remember seeing you at games as a player, and 257 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: then after you retired at just events around the city 258 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: have a presence to you. If Teresa Weatherspoon had not 259 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: been hired as the coach, do you think you still 260 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: would have pursued some sort of role in coaching with 261 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: the team or is that the thing that brought you 262 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: back to Chicago. 263 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 3: Well, I did the NBA coaching program, and so after 264 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: finishing that program, I wanted to be a coach. I 265 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 3: feel like if t Spoon didn't give me that opportunity, 266 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: I don't know when I would have gotten an opportunity 267 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 3: to coach in a w So I feel like everything 268 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: aligned with being a farmer player and with her getting 269 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: that job and knowing the hard work that I put 270 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 3: in and giving me the opportunity. 271 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: You talk about going to that coaching role, how did 272 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: you translate who you were as a player to who 273 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: you were as a coach. What was the toughest part 274 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: about seeing those players out there as playing for you 275 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: instead of alongside you. 276 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: What is something done but not being able to do it? 277 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 278 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: So learning how to motivate these plays in a way 279 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: that gets them going. You know, every player, you can't 280 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: motivate the same, you can't talk to the same, you 281 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: don't get the same out of them. I was a 282 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: player where my coach can get on me, you know, 283 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 3: like curse whatever, and I'm going to go out and 284 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 3: do what I'm supposed to do, whereas some players you 285 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: have to speak to them more softly are you know, 286 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: like not not so so tough. So just learning my 287 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: players and learning what they needed to get the best 288 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: out of them. But for the most part, it was 289 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: just like things that you know, like I have that. 290 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: It's that I want to go do it, but you 291 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: have to learn how to speak to get to teach 292 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: them how to do it. 293 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: The first couple of years after playing, like you get 294 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: anywhere near a gym and you're like, oh, let me 295 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: suit up, and it hurts not to so then wanting 296 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: other people to do what you're telling them to and 297 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: seeing them not execute, You're. 298 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: Like, man, I could just do it myself. This is frustrating. 299 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: If you picture yourself as a coach, and I know 300 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: every player is going to require something a little bit different, 301 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: but how do you see yourself as a friend, as 302 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: a philosopher, as a bit of a tough guy screamer, Like, 303 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: where do you see yourself fitting into the larger sort 304 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: of stereotypes about. 305 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: Coaches definitely not a yeller, definitely passionate, but more like 306 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 3: a teacher. Were speaking to my players, like I said, 307 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: like understanding their personalities and learning that to get the 308 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: best out of them. I could see myself being like 309 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: a defensive coach, even in the opportunities that I have 310 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: where I coach like younger girls are a coach to guys. 311 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: When I was in the NBA coaching program, that was 312 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: a thing for me and playing hard. If you're not 313 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: playing hard, you coming out of the game, because that's 314 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: something that you you shouldn't have to teach. Shouldn't have 315 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: to teach someone to play hard, especially at the pro level. 316 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree. Tell me about working under Teresa Weatherspoon. 317 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: You wore her jersey, you idolized her, and now you 318 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: are on her coaching staff. It was only for a year. 319 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: She was a WNBA great but a first time head coach. 320 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: What was it like? 321 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: It was a ma being under someone who loves the 322 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: game and who's as passionate as t Spoon. So I 323 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: learned a lot within those four to six months, just 324 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: seeing how she watches so much film, how she does 325 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: her X and os her at the time outs her 326 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: passion to the players with even player development, with them 327 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,239 Speaker 3: getting better. So I would say it was a great experience, 328 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: especially for my first time learning from someone who Yeah, 329 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: it was her first time being a head coach in 330 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: the W, but it wasn't her first time being a coach, 331 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: having a former player as a coach, She's already experienced 332 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: what a lot of the players, you know, are trying 333 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: to get too, are trying to do for themselves. So 334 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: I think that in itself is an advantage, whereas a 335 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: lot of coaches who haven't played in the W but 336 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: are still you know, become successful coaches. 337 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: It's a tough season for the team. There were a 338 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: lot of high points, but there were a lot of struggles. 339 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: Personalities on the team. Kennedy Carter is always going to 340 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: be a unique and special flower that needs to be 341 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: handled a certain way. You got Angel recent season, you 342 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: got all this dialogue around Caitlin versus Angel. This increased 343 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: popularity and focused from the media. What was the biggest 344 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: challenge for you and trying to handle just the basketball 345 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: side versus all the different personalities and stuff off the court. 346 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: The basketball side wasn't difficult. The basketball side is basketball. 347 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: The main part is when you have a lot of 348 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: young players and you don't have a lot of leadership 349 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: from veteran players on your team. It's getting the best 350 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: out of them. It's being able to help them control 351 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: their emotions, you know, on and off the court, and 352 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: them learning and seeing the bigger picture and knowing that 353 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: people are always watching, so how do you carry yourself? 354 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: So for me as an assistant coach, my job to 355 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: get the best out of them was having the experience, 356 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: you know, the experience that I've had on and off 357 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: the court for the things that they're trying to achieve. 358 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: So not being a friend, but being someone who wasn't 359 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: far removed that the game, being able to have that 360 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 3: relationship because I understand where you're coming from and how 361 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: you're feeling. 362 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: For the most part, were you surprised that the team 363 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: moved down after just one season with Teaspoon? 364 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely, very surprised. You know, playing twelve years in the league, 365 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: I've never had a coach that was just there for 366 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: one year. I've had not a lot, but I've had 367 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 3: some bad seasons and I had some not so good 368 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 3: coaches and they still got at least two years. 369 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: What do you think went wrong there? 370 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: I have no idea. I'm still trying to figure it 371 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: out to this day because with what we had and 372 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: with the injuries, you know, I feel like we still 373 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 3: had an ok season, and then for that to happen 374 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: in its first year, Teaspoon definitely didn't have enough time. 375 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: We didn't have enough time to develop what she wanted 376 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: and what she could have gotten out of those players. 377 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: I think fans and a lot of folks watching felt 378 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: the same way that it was such a quick cook. 379 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: How do you really put into place any of your 380 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: coaching ethos, any of your intentions, or any of your 381 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: strategy when it's such a quick turnaround. There were some 382 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: rumors about potentially not and I can't remember which outlet 383 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: led with this, but essentially that Teaspoon, because she was 384 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: not experienced as a head coach, wasn't able to control 385 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: all the different personalities in the locker room, and that 386 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: was part of some of the losses. 387 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: Did it feel like that to you? 388 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: Did it feel like something where she didn't have enough 389 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: control over the players. 390 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: I don't feel like she didn't have control. I feel 391 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: like those players ran through a wall for Teaspoon. I 392 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 3: feel like as a farmer player you're gonna have You're 393 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 3: gonna have issues in teams, and that's when you have 394 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: leadership veterans that you know, could kind of control. I 395 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 3: don't feel like it's just solely with the coach, and 396 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 3: I feel like that comes with the experience, and that 397 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 3: comes with time. A lot of those players that was 398 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 3: their first time playing together as well. There are different 399 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: players that you know, feel like they should be starting. 400 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: I feel like, because players in the starting lineup are injured, 401 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 3: now it's my opportunity. You know, like you have a 402 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 3: lot of different challenges that I feel like shouldn't be 403 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: subsided or ended in one year. 404 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you try to sund staff with the sky 405 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: when Teespoon left? 406 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 3: Well, I was hoping that there would still be an opportunity, 407 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: and even t Spoon, you know, wanted there to be 408 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: an opportunity for me, especially playing in Chicago for nine years. 409 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: But I know a lot of times within this process, 410 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 3: a lot of new coaches like to bring on their 411 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: own staff and people that they're familiar with are connected with. 412 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you looking to get into coaching elsewhere? 413 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely? You know, I've still desired to coach. And it's 414 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 3: funny because people you know, they ask me like, hey, 415 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 3: are you still interested in coaching? And I'm like, you know, 416 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 3: our head coach got fired. It's not like I quit, 417 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: you know. I'm I'm saying so after putting in the 418 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: top for the program to learn more, to gain experience, 419 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: after my first year, of course, I still want to coach. 420 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 3: You know. It's passion and it's something that I love 421 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 3: and enjoy, especially giving back to these ladies. 422 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got the chance to coach Angel Reese. What 423 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: do you think the future looks like for her as 424 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: a basketball player? 425 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: The future is bright for Angel, not just with her talent, 426 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 3: but her grit there her the willer to want to learn. 427 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: Angel was one of the players who you could speak 428 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: to and you could yell a you could get on her, 429 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: and she wants you to stay on her. She wants 430 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: to get better, She wants to work out, she wants 431 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: to be in a gym. You know, she wants to learn. 432 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: So I feel like with players like that that are 433 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: willing to learn and willing to get better and have 434 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 3: that dog in them, that the sky is the limit 435 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: for them. 436 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: Do you think she'll be back in Chicago? 437 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: It kind of ended on an interesting note with the 438 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: injury and then the partial benching. Can you see her 439 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: in the Sky jersey again or you think she'll be elsewhere? 440 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: It's tough to call, you know, with the league and 441 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 3: with teams, it's always a business, so it's a tough call. 442 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 3: I don't know what Angel like. I can't speak for 443 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 3: Angel and I can't speak for the Sky, but I 444 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 3: do know business is business, so it's no telling what 445 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: would happen, you know. I do know Angel draw a 446 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 3: lot of fans, and I know she brings in revenue. 447 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 3: She's definitely a fan favorite, So who knows what would happen. 448 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, As a Chicago Sky it's just the nerves are 449 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: creeping up on this happening again because we've lost so 450 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: many top players that have decided to go play elsewhere. 451 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: A Lenadelada on Sylvia Fowls, Candice Park or the Gabby Williams. 452 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I could go on and on Epiphany Prince. 453 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: It just feels like a part of me is so 454 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: grateful that Chicago has a legacy of professional women's basketball 455 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: for such a long time and we've been able to 456 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: enjoy the team, and then a part of me is 457 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: jealous of the new cities because they're putting the kind 458 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: of money and funding and facilities in. They're approaching with 459 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: this really modern mindset, and I feel like the Sky 460 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: are now falling behind. 461 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: You know, you've played for the team, You've coached for 462 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: the team. 463 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: How do you think this guy can work to hang 464 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: on to big name players and modernize for this new 465 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: era of the. 466 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: W the organization they have to do more. You know, 467 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 3: playing in Chicago nine years and then go on to 468 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 3: Vegas and I was only in Las Vegas for two years. 469 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: One of the best organizations I've ever played for, the 470 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 3: way they market the team, the way they promote, the 471 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 3: way they are behind the players. You know, you have 472 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 3: to invest to get back. Sometimes you have to lose 473 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: money to gay money. And I can't speak for what 474 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 3: the organization is spending, but there are things that a 475 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: lot of the players are not happy about and that's 476 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: why they're leaving. So you have to you can't just 477 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 3: talk to the coaches and the office. You have to 478 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: see what is going on with these players, because they 479 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 3: are the ones that are choosing or decided to leave. 480 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, scared money don't make money basically, and right now, 481 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: the Sky are not keeping up with the rest of 482 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: the league when it comes to how they treat their players, facilities, 483 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: everything else, which is it's frustrating. 484 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned you want to get back into coaching. 485 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: There's so many more opportunities now with AU basketball, unrivaled 486 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: project B obviously at the college level. Where are you 487 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: looking and how do you see those new places to 488 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: play and coach. 489 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: I was supposed to have an opportunity with Arrival, and 490 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: I don't know what happened. They didn't say no, but 491 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: the contract didn't get sent. 492 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: So still waiting or is that is that window closed? 493 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 3: That door, like the window is closed as an assistant coach, 494 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 3: So it's you know, it's disheartening, but whatever's meant to 495 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 3: be will always be, and I'm never gonna give up. 496 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: AU is a league that I helped start as a player. 497 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 3: For the first three years, I was on the committee 498 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: and I played, and hopefully there will be an opportunity 499 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 3: there one day as well. So I'm trying and you know, 500 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: like I say, like what's meant to be will be. 501 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 3: We'll see. 502 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think about the opportunities that players 503 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: have these days compared to even just a few years 504 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: ago when you were in the league. 505 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: Oh, it's amazing, you know, because it's difficult and it's 506 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 3: something that I had to do with going overseas, being 507 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: away from your family, being away from your friends for 508 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: a certain amount of time to continue to do something 509 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: you love. Now they have leagues here where players don't 510 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 3: have to go overseas, and I think it's amazing where 511 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: there are making more money as well. So the rise 512 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: of the league, the support that these ladies are getting, 513 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 3: the attention that they're getting is what they deserve and 514 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 3: I hope it continues to excel and grow. 515 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, over the course of your career, you played in 516 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: a lot of different places overseas Latvia, Spain, Turkey, France, Israel, Brazil, 517 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, China. It's awesome to get to travel that 518 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: much and see so much of the world because of basketball. 519 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: Although some people would rather just go to Miami for 520 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and make you know, four times. 521 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: As much money to each their own. But I need 522 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 2: to hear about did you have any wild. 523 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: Experiences in any of those places, whether it was like 524 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: culture shock your teammates, like something that happened that you 525 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: were like, I can't believe I'm in the middle of 526 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: China and this just happened. 527 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 3: So the thing that comes to my mind is when 528 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 3: I was in Turkey and I was coming back home. 529 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 3: It was a very early flight and something about my 530 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 3: passport expiring within six months. Yeah, they made me pay 531 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: a fine. This was probably back in two thousand and 532 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: nine or ten, and they were telling me that I 533 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 3: can't go through security until I pay this fine because 534 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: my passport expires in six months. Mind you, I'm going home, 535 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: So why do I have to pay a fine if 536 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 3: my passport exp is not expired. I still have six 537 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: months left and I'm going home. I'm not coming into 538 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: your country. And they were like, well, you have to 539 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: pay this fine if you want to leave. So now 540 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: I'm trying to go to an ATM to get them 541 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: out of money for them. I'm freaking out because I'm like, 542 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if I could take this amount out 543 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 3: of my out of the ATM. You know, there was 544 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 3: a limit on what I could take out of the ATM. 545 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 3: I can't call the bait because it's too early in 546 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: the morning. So I'm trying to do all of this 547 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: in the midst of making my flight. So I was 548 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 3: probably one of the scariest moments that I had, because 549 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: even when you're flying from overseas, you know you have 550 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 3: to make it a time to get the connect the connecting, Yeah, 551 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: for sure. And this was probably my This was like 552 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: my second year, so I'm like twenty two, so I'm 553 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: freaking out. So so now even when I travel for vacation, 554 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: I do not like traveling alone when I'm going overseas 555 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 3: because I feel like anything could happen, and I feel 556 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 3: like they could make up any rule, right, and what 557 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: are you going to do? 558 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: I learned that rule the hard way when my husband 559 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: and I were going to Costa Rica for vacation, and 560 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: I knew about expired passworts, I didn't know about the 561 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: rule that countries have for some of them three months 562 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: and some of them six months, that it has to 563 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: expire further away from that so that you can't claim 564 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: that you got stuck there and can't go back, which 565 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: is why, like you said, you were flying home. 566 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: So in theory they shouldn't have cared. 567 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: But we literally got to the airport at five am 568 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: and it was like right after COVID, so they're like, oh, 569 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: we can't expedite it. 570 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: You're not going to make it in time, and we 571 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 2: just had to. 572 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: Pick a different place on the board and like fly 573 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: somewhere else in the States for our vacation because. 574 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 2: I had ruined the entire vacation. Good times. 575 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: No, to everyone, it's not just your expiration date. There's 576 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: another date that you need to know. And somehow it 577 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: never came up with all the insurance I bought and 578 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: all the other things I filled out. But yeah, I 579 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: learned so that y'all don't have to go through that also, 580 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: so you know how it expires every ten years. Ten 581 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: years previous was when my husband and I had first 582 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: started dating and I used to live in California and 583 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: I would drive into Mexico and weirdly enough, you didn't 584 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 1: need a passport when you drove in, and so we 585 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: were going to a wedding in Mexico and he's like, oh, 586 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: don't fort your passport. I was like, oh, it's Mexico. 587 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, it's a different country, babe. 588 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, yeah, shoot, so I grab it. 589 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: I go, oh, no, it's expired. 590 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: So both times I tried to like, I managed to 591 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: do it ten years later, same as yeah, yeah, So 592 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: I also maybe shouldn't travel alone, is the point of 593 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: this story. Did you have any experiences when you went 594 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: to those countries where you had to figure out how 595 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: to be yourself despite language barriers. I remember going to 596 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: France when I was young, and like, the first thing 597 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: I tried to figure out was how I could still 598 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: tell jokes in French, Like I would tell the most stilted, 599 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: bad French, but it would still be like I was 600 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: trying to be myself in a place that was different. 601 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 1: Did you find that you were able to be yourself 602 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: or did you just have to focus on like. 603 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: The x'es and o's because of the language barriers. 604 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: I'm usually like a cheer person and I kind of 605 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 3: keep to myself, and that was something when I played 606 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: in Friends, they didn't like. They wanted me to go 607 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 3: out and be with the team more. That's something that 608 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: they spoke to my agent about, like, oh, she's an 609 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: amazing person and a great player, but we want her 610 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: to spend more time with her teammates outside of practice 611 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: our games. And for me, you know, as a foreigner there, 612 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 3: I like to go home and relax and watch my 613 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 3: TV shows. So that was only the difference where I 614 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: feel like I couldn't be myself in that aspect. They 615 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 3: wanted me to be more outgoing instead of the introvert 616 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: that I like to be. 617 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: We got to get you some Rick Steves books, and 618 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: then when you go to those places, you'll just want 619 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: to explore the whole time instead of staying in your room. 620 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: The man has got it down. He's the best tour 621 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: guy in the world. 622 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So, speaking of being an introvert, you somehow end 623 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: up on reality TV, which is not a place for. 624 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: Private, introverted people. 625 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: You were first with your former partner Mimi Faust on 626 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: Love and Hip Hop Atlanta this year, were the first 627 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: WNBA player to be a main cast member on Basketball 628 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Wives alongside an ex Manlee. What do you like about 629 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: doing reality shows? What is it just the ladies that 630 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: keep dragging in? 631 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: Well, the first time, it was more so like me 632 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: being a supportive partner. I knew that was her livelihood, 633 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: and I knew that we were together, and I wanted 634 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: to support her because you know, a lot of times 635 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: people make up storylines or sometimes I won't say a 636 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 3: lot sometimes, you know, for TV. But this was her 637 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: real life. I was her real girlfriend, and I had 638 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: my own career, but I still wanted to support her. 639 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 3: So then that's how that happened. And then this year, 640 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: the timing, the alignment of everything just happened, like wet, 641 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: I got fired from coaching, and then you know, the 642 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: opportunity presented itself, and it's like a barrier breaker. The 643 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: first WNBA player as a main cast, like you said, 644 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: and unfortunately I was going through a breakup. But this time, 645 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: now I'm bringing someone on, so to speak, because this 646 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: is basketball wives, whereas the last I was, you know, 647 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: supporting my partner for her career, her livelihood at that point. 648 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: How did it feel having your personal life on TV? 649 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 3: It's difficult. You know, you definitely have to have tough skin, 650 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: and you definitely have to have, you know, self confidence 651 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 3: and not be insecure into what other people can say, 652 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: because a lot of times when your business is on 653 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: the forefront, people feel like they know you and they 654 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: feel like they could say whatever, even if it's not true. 655 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: And so that's probably the toughest thing of dealing with it. 656 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 3: But since I've already had the experience, because I've already 657 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: had a public relationship, that wasn't difficult for me. 658 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you sort of also got to like be a 659 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: little behind the scenes and figure out how it works 660 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 1: and then step into the sort of front, main character. 661 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: What did you dislike about. 662 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 4: Being on reality TV business, being you know, in the 663 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 4: forefront the whole point event, like you said, like being 664 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 4: an introvert and being a private person. 665 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: It's like, you can't be private and do reality TV. 666 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: There is good pay from it, though, so you know it. 667 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: Some things, you know come with it, and I've built 668 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 3: some amazing relationships, you know, So I feel like though 669 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: when you're in a public relationship, as long as the 670 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 3: two of you are on the same page, then it's 671 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: not difficult. It becomes complicated, like when you're going through 672 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: a breakup for what I was doing dealing with last season, 673 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: and when you're not on the same page and other 674 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: people try to come in and you know, cause issues 675 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: within your household. 676 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: Did you learn anything about yourself by being sort of 677 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: forced into this more extroverted, open role. 678 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 3: I won't say I learned more about myself. I've probably 679 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: learned how to deal with things better being in the 680 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 3: forefront and having your relationship on mainstream, because before I've 681 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: made like guess appear, so I was barely on there 682 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: and now being a main cast, I'm still being myself, 683 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 3: but I'm more in the forefront, so I'm learning things 684 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: within that aspect. Yeah, it's all still different for me, 685 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 3: you know, being a private person and van an introvert. 686 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: It's like it's it's a totally different role. 687 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: Maybe you should try dating enormy and not having it 688 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: on TV and see how that goes. 689 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: Well, I have and makes you less funny. 690 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: You can't get you can't get paid for that. 691 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: Not even that's funny. 692 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: What was it like having your own like lived experience 693 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: going through something, experiencing something and then seeing how it 694 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: can be shaped in post production and then what's presented, 695 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: what the producers choose to actually include and for other 696 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: people to see. 697 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 3: Well, for me is it hasn't been so bad because, 698 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: like I said, I'm always myself and but going back 699 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 3: and seeing some of the things in scenes that you're 700 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: not in, it's like, oh, like you said that about me, 701 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 3: you know, are this happened then, but now it's too 702 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: late because everything's already filmed, So now you're keeping that 703 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: in mind if it happens again, It's like I need 704 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 3: to address this. 705 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that part would be annoying, But 706 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: the thing that would annoy me would be like if 707 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: there was like a disagreement with someone and they just 708 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: like cut out a bunch of my really great points 709 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: and didn't include them, and then everyone at home was like, 710 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: I agree with this person. I'm like, wait, no, I 711 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: said a bunch of really good stuff that proves why I'm. 712 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: Right, and that could happen. So it's tricks and things 713 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 3: that you learn as you're doing reality TV. And some 714 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: of the ogs they're so great at it because they've 715 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: been doing it for so long. But it's like the 716 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 3: more you do it, the more you learn, and you 717 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 3: kind of learn how to get through those little like niches. 718 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: Are you up for doing it again? 719 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 3: I I don't mind it, you know. I don't know 720 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: where my life would be if I had the choice. 721 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: Of course, I would love to be coaching, but I'm 722 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: never someone that would just be sitting at home not working. 723 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: I love working. I love making money and I love 724 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 3: being able to take care of myself and have a 725 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 3: certain type of lifestyle. 726 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: All right, door's not closed on. I don't know. 727 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: We gotta find out, Like traders, fear factor is coming back, 728 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, eat a bunch of bugs. 729 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: We'll find something for you. 730 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 3: Definitely eat no bugs. I don't care how much they paid. 731 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: Agreed. 732 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: Well, if you're out there, listen, she's looking to coach, 733 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: so call her up. Thanks so much for the time. 734 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. 735 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. 736 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: Thanks again to. 737 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: Tie for taking the time. We got to take another 738 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: break when we come back into club. 739 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: We all fam. 740 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back Slices. We love that you're listening, but we 741 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: want you to get in the game every day too. 742 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: So here's our good game play of the day. If 743 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: you've got one near you, go grab a beer or 744 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: a snack at your local women's sports bar and report 745 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: back to the show. 746 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 2: We want to hear who's doing it right, who's. 747 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: Got fun events for fans of women's sport, and where 748 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: the latest and greatest are popping up. I'm brainstorming an 749 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: upcoming episode about women's sports bars across the country, so 750 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to need my slices on the ground to 751 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: get the intel for me. Like Kelly a super slice 752 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: from Madison, Wisconsin, who tracked all the way to Door 753 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: County for our Diana Trossi Bench dedication and wrote in 754 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: to tell me that Madison just got a women's. 755 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 2: Sports bar called Burnell's. 756 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: Burnell's is named after Burnell Hooker, who started and owned 757 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Aces professional women's basketball team and was a 758 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: trailblazer in getting WNBA games to play exhibitions in Wisconsin. 759 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: Kelly says, if you're in the Madison area, get to 760 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: Burnell's this Saturday for the Yukon USC game and then 761 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: stick around for its lesbian pop up bar at six 762 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: pm Central. Get after it a cheese curd, love and 763 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: supper club and slices. We always love to hear from you, 764 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: so hit us up on email. Good game at wondermediaetwork 765 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: dot com or leave us a voicemail at eight seven 766 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: two two four fifty seventy and don't forget to subscribe, 767 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: rate and review. I tell you every day, but it 768 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: really helps the show, and it's super easy watch. Shitty 769 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: Player Spotify rapped lists rating two out of two, Jagofs 770 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: at the top. Now, I've been simmering on this for 771 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: days and I just need to get it out. Morgan 772 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: Wallin and Chris Brown as the most listened to artist 773 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: for NWSL players. 774 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 2: What are we doing, ladies? 775 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: Morgan Wallen is an N word spouting, furniture throwing, public 776 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: intox and disorderly conduct, arrest boasting, COVID protocol breaking bro 777 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: who commodified and profited off his racism. And Chris Brown 778 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: is a known domestic abuser with multiple assault arrests and 779 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: allegations for a variety of different public fights. We gotta 780 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: do better, gals, Come on now, it's your turn. 781 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 2: Y'all rate and review. Thanks for listening, See you next week. 782 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: Good game, Tie, Good Game, Audie Crooks a few years 783 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: of crushing sports disappointments making us think that Team USA 784 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: winning against Canada and hockey over and over again might 785 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: actually be a bad thing. 786 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 2: Ahead of the Olympics. 787 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 1: Good Game with Sarah Spain is an iHeart women's sports 788 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You 789 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts. 790 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 2: Or wherever you get your podcasts. 791 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: Production by Wonder Media Network, our producers are alex Azzie Grace, Lynch, 792 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: Taylor Williamson, and Lucy Jones. Our executive producers are Christina Everett, 793 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan, and Emily Rutterer. Our editors are 794 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: Emily Rutterer, Britney Martinez and Gianna Palmer. Production assistants from 795 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: Avery LOFTUS and I'm Your Host Sarah Spain